Episode 5045： Trial For Maduro; Next Steps In Venezuela
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Nicolas Maduro is back at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn after a dramatic appearance in federal court. When asked to confirm his identity by the judge, Maduro responded in Spanish, "I am Nicolas Maduro Moros, President of Venezuela. I am here because I have been kidnapped since Saturday at my home in Caracas." At which point the judge interrupted, saying there will be time to address this through motions.
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Nicolas Maduro is back at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn after a dramatic
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appearance in federal court. When asked to confirm his identity by the judge,
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quote, are you Nicolas Maduro Moros? Maduro responded in Spanish. I am Nicolas Maduro
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Moros, president of Venezuela. I am here because I have been kidnapped since Saturday. I was
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captured at my home in Caracas, at which point the judge interrupted, saying there will be time
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to address this through motions. This is not typical for these sorts of arraignments.
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Then asking for his plea, Maduro responded, I am a decent man. I am innocent. I am not guilty.
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Then as the hearing wrapped, when Maduro stood up to exit the courtroom, a man behind him provoked
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him in Spanish, saying you will pay. Maduro turned around and responded back in Spanish,
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telling him, I am a man of God. I am a prisoner of war. It has not even been 72 hours since Maduro and
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his wife were taken from their home in their pajamas, seconds before trying to lock themselves
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into a steel safe room. Taken from a palace with all the comforts of an authoritarian to a notorious
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jail, infamous for what federal judges have called barbaric conditions. Allegations of freezing
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temperatures, brown water, cockroaches on the food, mold in the shower, and medical conditions
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that go untreated. Conditions victims of Maduro's regime will have no sympathy toward, as those who
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fled Venezuela and those who remain celebrate his downfall. But what exactly happens to Venezuela now?
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Maduro is gone, yes, but his regime is still very much in place. And it's still sounding a lot like
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the guy who was just arraigned, saying Maduro is innocent, and he's still the president.
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But I cannot abide the actions of the political leadership in Washington. These opportunists
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are willing to hurt our people to score cheap points. They and their allies have no intention
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of helping us solve this problem, and every intention of trying to profit off of it.
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Which brings me to this. 2026 is an election year. Election years have a way of ramping up the
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politics at a time when we simply can't afford more of that in Minnesota.
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Minnesota. In September, I announced that I would seek a historic third term as Minnesota's
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governor, and I have every confidence that if I gave it my all, we would win the race.
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But as I reflect on this moment with my family and my team over the holidays, I came to the
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conclusion that I can't give a political campaign my all. Every minute that I spend defending my own
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political interest would be a minute I can't spend defending the people of Minnesota against the
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criminals who prey on our generosity and the cynics who want to prey on our differences.
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So I've decided to step out of this race, and I'll let others worry about the election while
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I focus on the work that's in front of me for the next year.
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I'm passing on this race with zero sadness and zero regret. I did not run for this job to have the job.
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I ran for the job to do the job. Minnesota faces enormous challenges this year, and I refuse to
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spend a single minute doing anything other than rising to meet this moment. Minnesota has always
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come first and always will. That's what I believe servant leadership demands of me. As an optimist,
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I'll hold out some hope that my friends on the other side of the aisle will consider what servant
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leadership demands of them in the moment. We can work together to combat against the criminals.
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We can work together to rebuild the public's trust and make our state stronger. But make no mistake
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about it, if Republicans continue down the path of abusing power, smearing entire communities,
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and running their own fraudulent game at the expense of Minnesotans, I will fight back with everything
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that I have. I am absolutely confident a Democratic and a DFL-er will hold this seat come November.
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I'm confident that I'll find ways to contribute to the state that I love long after next January.
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But there'll be time to worry about all that later.
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It is over. It's just a matter of time. And Donald Trump will have done something that saluted America
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since the 50s. Deal with a communist dictatorship 90 miles off the coast of Florida. I can't wait
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till the day comes. To our Cuban friends in Florida and throughout America, the liberation of your
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Nicolas Maduro walking haltingly, slowly, very deliberately, trying to scam the crowd. We know
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now, based on sources telling MSNOW, that he sustained some injuries during the operation that
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led to his being in domestic law enforcement custody. The same is true, according to her lawyers,
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of his wife, Silvia Flores de Maduro, whose lawyers said that she sustained not only bruising on her
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forehead, which was visible to everybody in the courtroom, but that she may have also sustained
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a fracture to her ribs. Of course, both of them entering pleas of not guilty. And as you noted,
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saying very firmly in Spanish that they are not guilty. But in many other respects, this was far from
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ordinary. And obviously, the least ordinary moment was that confrontation that you mentioned between
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a Venezuelan man who was there as a spectator and Nicolas Maduro. Our producer, Que Guerrero, and I had an
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opportunity to interview Pedro Rojas. He is a Venezuelan national who is now applying for political
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asylum. He is a member of a political opposition party in Venezuela called Primero Justicia, or Justice
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First, and served four months in a Venezuelan prison for his political activities. He told us that it was
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incredibly important to him to come here today and confront Nicolas Maduro to say to him, as you noted,
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you will pay, because he felt that it was incredibly important, not just that Nicolas Maduro was held to
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account by the U.S. justice system, but that someone from his own country, a country that, according to
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Pedro, he has victimized and burglarized, was able to look him in the eye and tell him, you are illegitimate,
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you are a burglar, you are a criminal. And of course, Maduro defiantly looking at him back and saying,
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I'm a prisoner of war. Before Pedro was ejected from the courtroom, incredibly powerful discussion
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with Pedro about what led him to come here today from Atlanta, where he operates a mechanics business,
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basically doing mechanics work on cars. Woke up at four in the morning and took a flight here
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for the specific purpose of having that historic confrontation with Maduro, the likes of which
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I've never seen in a courtroom. And just to illustrate for you and our viewers how out of
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the ordinary it is, I have attended a trial in this very courtroom. In fact, one of the E.G. Carroll
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trials where the president's advisor, Stephen Chung, was kicked out of the courtroom because his phone
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rang. Now contrast that with somebody standing up in the middle of the courtroom and wanting to have
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words with a defendant, it was silent in the courtroom and people were watching as if it were a tennis
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match, you know, heads going back and forth and back and forth to see the interplay between Mr. Maduro
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and Mr. Rojas. They've chosen not to live this way anymore. And unlike Obama, President Trump has not
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turned his back on the people of Iran. So I pray and hope that 2026 will be
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the year that we make Iran great again. Democratic vote because they wouldn't vote for these things.
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Round two, what I want, I want to go after welfare fraud. I want to rewrite the way the programs work.
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I want to make sure that every state, before they get a dollar for food stamps or any form of welfare,
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that they send biometrics to the federal government proving that the person exists and they're eligible for
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the services in question. I want to go after the fraud that's so rampant in Minnesota and throughout
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these blue states through reconciliation. And second, I want to do an affordability package,
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making America more affordable to the hardworking men and women of this country
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through reconciliation. Stay tuned. It is coming.
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You're going to hear for the first time today that it is my plan to convert.
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So I still have time, but my understanding is you're never too late. And on top of that,
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any skepticism I have about reality would certainly be instantly answered if I wake up in heaven.
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I do believe that the dominant Christian theory is that I would wake up in heaven if I have a good
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life. Yeah. I don't necessarily have to, you know, state something in advance. And so to my Christian
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friends, yes, it's coming. So you don't need to talk me into it. I am now convinced that the risk reward
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is completely smart. If it turns out that there's nothing there, I've lost nothing,
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but I've respected your wishes. And I like doing that. If it turns out there is something there,
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and the Christian model is the closest to it, I win. So with your permission,
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have
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had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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2026. Actually, I guess technically the real first workday back from the Christmas holiday of
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2025 and New Year's holiday of 2026. Thank everybody for joining us in the late afternoon,
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early evening edition of The War Room. A lot to go through. All signal, no noise today. At the end
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right there was Scott Adams, the cartoonist, social commentator, you know, MAGA philosopher,
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I think you could say. Dave Bratt joins us. I've got Glenn Story, Neil McCabe, Joe Allen,
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much more going on. We've got a lot of people to get through and a lot of stories to talk about
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and analyze in the next two hours. First off, Scott, for those that don't know it, Dave Bratt,
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Scott Adams, I guess it's terminal cancer, but his thinking or people around him is that he
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only has a couple of weeks to live. Of course, he has been discussing and right there discussing
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his conversion to Christianity. Your thoughts, sir?
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Yeah, well, our prayers go out to him. We certainly pray God's grace goes before him,
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with him. For the people listening, the Christian message isn't, if I lived a good life, I'm okay.
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It's kind of the opposite of that. He sounded a little too rational about it. I don't want to
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give him a hard time, but I just want to make sure we got it straight. Jesus said, why do you call me
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good? No one is good except your Father in heaven. So the whole point and the crook on the cross next
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to Jesus made it most clear how you get to heaven. And we know the evidence is because today, Jesus
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said, today you're going to be with me. And that crook on the cross said, I'm scum, I'm nothing to
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the other crook. And he said, this guy's the son of God. That's how you get into heaven. Your heart
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is up before God. God sees your heart and your heart is good in the eyes of God. We don't decide,
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right? God knows the heart. But when you proclaim with your lips, hey, this is the son of God.
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And I don't deserve nothing. That gets you into heaven.
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You know, it's interesting in the New Testament, that is probably the two most profound witnesses
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that the criminal on the cross at the very moment or close to the moment when Christ died,
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professing his faith, and then the Roman centurion that didn't need, you don't need to come anywhere
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to say the word. And he will be healed. And what did Christ say in all of Judea? He had not seen
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faith such as that. Pretty amazing. Okay. There's a lot going on. We've got a lot of logistics. There's
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things happening in March, January 6th. There's a briefing about to happen on Capitol Hill.
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A West Point grad now, a Democrat in Congress, I think his name's Dan Ryan, has accused Marco
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Rubio, the Secretary of State, of perjury and lying to Congress already for, I guess, previous
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briefings he's given on Venezuela. Dave Bratt's going to break that down for us. We've got a huge event
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in Texas this Friday, Glenn Story, Patriot Mobile. The best folks around is going to be here to talk
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Okay, welcome back. Scott Adams, as the engine room informs me, and Dave Brett did also during the
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break, that Scott Adams was going to have assisted suicide, but waved off that. So our best wishes
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to Scott. I know it's horrible what he's going through. And I thought it was very moving, this
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discussion about conversion to Christianity. And Brett, you keep saying you're a dour
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Dutch Reformed, are you not? You're the hardest, you're the most dour of the dour.
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Yes, I'm dour, and I'm happy to share my brain, my heart with Scott. We're all praying for you,
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brother. I'm just telling you the way Jesus said it. I just want everybody to have full
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information so we get really good news in the end.
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Good news. Maybe we can set that up. I'll reach out to him. See if we can set that up.
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I think it would be great for you to talk to him.
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The talk about Christians and a Christian company, Glenn's story, and Jenny and the team over at
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Patriot Mobile. Glenn, there's something going on in Texas, and we would rather do something on Friday
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than have this conference. But this conference, we have to have it, and we have to have it now,
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about what's going on in the state of Texas. And it's not about religious freedom at all.
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It's about something totally different. Talk to us about, and I think I understand now from all
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your team that we're completely sold out. I'll still put the number up in case anybody wants to
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get on a waiting list, but it turns out that we're totally sold out. What are we trying to accomplish
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on Friday in Texas with our event that we're inviting Gert Wilders from Netherlands to come and
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address? Well, yeah. It really just boils down to, we want to educate folks here in Texas. We work a
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lot. We hunt. We do our things. But there's some things operating underground. This Sharia law
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thing is going on with Muslims. And what's really interesting is we want others to know. It's just
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happening under, it's an undercurrent. And, you know, there's no better day than today to learn
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about what's really going on. And, you know, we brought a bunch of different groups, America's
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Freedom Alliance, the Denton County Republican Party, the Real America's Voice, you name it.
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There's about 22 different groups that said, hey, we want to know about it. They've shared it with
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all of their constituency, and it sold out. We've expanded the room three times, and now we've
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maxed out. It's just incredible. The 22 groups, what would bring 22 disparate groups together
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so quickly? Because this really, over the holiday, it happened just a couple of days before Christmas.
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What is the power of what's happening to bring 22 disparate groups together so quickly?
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You know, it's pretty simple. Folks love their country. They love their creator. And they want
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to, we all know that this country was founded on biblical principles, right? And that we're all
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fighting for our God-given right and freedoms. And the real interesting piece is when you tell them
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this is what's really going on, people want to learn because they see what happened in New York City.
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They see what really what happened in Europe. I mean, Europe has been basically invaded and taken
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over. And what we want to do is, look, we believe in the freedom of religion, but we do not believe in
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the institution of Sharia law in this country. You know, our founding documents really talk about
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this, really about how this was founded on the Christianity.
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Talk to me about where do people go. I want to thank Patriot Mobile for putting,
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sustaining us and putting this together. It's sold out. It's going to be absolutely packed. We've got
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Gert Wilders coming in from the Netherlands. Gert, for the last 20 years, has really up until about the
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last five or 10 years, been a voice in the wilderness warning against this, the Islamization
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of Europe. And you're seeing it, whether it's in Paris, whether it's in London, whether it's in
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Brussels. Today, I think Austria announced that 40 percent of births in their country are coming
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from people that do not hold Austrian passports. They're being absolutely overwhelmed. We cannot and
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we will not allow this to happen in the United States of America. And certainly we're not going to
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allow it to happen in the great state of Texas. Texas is the jewel of the crown of the union and
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it can't happen. And that's what they've targeted. This is to be very specific. We understand exactly
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what they are doing. We understand exactly how they're going to do it. We understand their
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playbook. Governor Abbott was courageous enough to identify and call out the Muslim Brotherhood and
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care as terrorist organizations. And already he thinks, you know, that he's put something on the
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books. There's enough about Sharia law. I think folks out there think there's not there's a gap.
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And that's one of the reasons people are having a great call to action to make sure that this cannot
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happen in in Texas, because Texas is too precious to this union and too precious to the freedom of the
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world to allow Texas to fall. New York's fallen. New York's fallen. You've got a Ugandan Marxist
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jihadist, uh, as a, and who I think it could be denaturalized in an afternoon. If somebody would
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get focused, uh, that's running New York city and New York city is already a mess. It's going to be
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a bigger mess after this. So where do they go right now? Uh, if they want to get on a waiting list
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and I want to specifically, where do people go to talk about Patriot mobile over at 972 Patriot,
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where they go and who they talk to? Yeah. You know, you can call 972 Patriot, but if you want to get on
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the list, it's really Patriot mobile.com forward slash save Texas. And, and Steve, you just brought
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this up. What was going on in Austin last week was crazy. The protest and just unruly behavior of
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groups. And I'll tell you what, if we did that, it, we'd all be thrown in jail. So, I mean, it's like
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this two different levels of law, one for us and one for them. And we're not going to let it happen.
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We're going to, we're, we're going to educate everybody that attends. We're going to have another
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one. We'll do one of these every quarter. And if we have to every month, and it's really the hottest
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topic from my perspective. And it's really working together different groups that are goals that do
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different things. We kind of get together. It reminds me in biblical times, the rebuilding of wall,
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the ancient wall around Jerusalem, you know, the different groups didn't get along. We're
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working together to get that wall built to protect their city. And quite frankly, that's what we're
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Glenn Story, I want to thank you. You have the back of first responders. You have the back of
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conservative groups. You have the back. You're a Christian company and you put your values to work.
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I really want to appreciate you. Saw you guys in action over the last summer, whether it's redistricting
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or this issue about Islamization. And for you guys, you can rally the troops quickly to do this
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in 10 days is pretty extraordinary. So I want to thank you, you and Jenny and the entire team over
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at Patriot Mobile. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Well, we want to thank you for participating and sharing this with the posse. If it weren't for the
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Well, the posse exists because of guys like you. We give people access to information and news and
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groups that empowers them and allows them to use their agency. This is what this is about.
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There's a big problem down in Texas. And Glenn said something quite powerful.
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The behavior of these groups, when they get riled up and the police play patty cake with them,
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got to stop. Can't have two systems of law. Can't do it. And you're seeing the people in Texas.
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I can tell you how important this is. An event like this put together over the holidays is people
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will tell you it just can't happen. It came together like that. We've could have sold this
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room out two or three times the size. That's the level of interest of people that want to come and
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see this. Neil McCabe joins us. Neil, we've got a bunch of things happening tomorrow in commemoration
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of I Hope One Day is made a national holiday about patriots. That's January 6th. We've got a press
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conference. There's marches. There's all types of things going on. We're putting out music. We've
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got a film coming out. Can you walk us through the punch list of exactly what is happening, sir?
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Yeah, of course, the documentary is The Sleeping Giant, which not only talks about J6,
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but that sort of that struggle for these guys and girls to recover from J6. It's not really fair
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that a lot of them got a pardon. 14 of them only had their sentence commuted. But they got clemency
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from the president, which we're all grateful for. But it's not really fair to ask these guys to say,
00:26:05.660
OK, now go on and have a normal life. There's a lot of recovery for these guys. And that documentary
00:26:12.660
digs into it and really makes it real. Tomorrow at 11, there's going to be a press conference that
00:26:19.400
will carry live Real America's Voice. And then there'll be a speaking program at the Ellipse at
00:26:25.760
1145. And when that speaking program is over, there's going to be a peaceful and patriotic march
00:26:32.860
to the Capitol, Steve. And at 244, they're going to lay some flowers down. And of course, 244 is the
00:26:41.900
time that Lieutenant Byrd murdered Ashley Babbitt. And so it's going to be jam-packed. There's going
00:26:49.900
to be a lot of people there. Before you ask another question, I just want to get it out to people
00:26:54.880
that you probably want to take the Federal Triangle or Metro Center, Metro stops, rather than
00:27:02.860
trying to drive in. And also be aware that this is a National Park Service permitted event.
00:27:10.000
So treat it like a concert or a ballgame. So there's no strollers, no backpacks, no aerosol
00:27:17.400
cans. Like there's a whole list of things that you just treat it like a ballgame or a concert
00:27:27.740
So, yeah, we're going to do the press conference, the kickoff press conference during the war room.
00:27:32.820
That'll be from the Willard Hotel. That'll lead into a speaker event,
00:27:36.020
that they'll have a speaker event at the Ellipse. And then just like on January 6th, what, five years
00:27:41.380
ago, there's going to be a peaceful march up to the Capitol, just like it was then,
00:27:48.000
Neil McCabe. And then, of course, we're going to honor Ashley Babbitt. I'm trying to get Ashley
00:27:52.620
Babbitt's mom on tonight or tomorrow morning at some time. Neil, can you just hang on one second?
00:27:56.960
Just hang on a minute. Neil McCabe joins us. We got Joe Allen. We're packed this afternoon.
00:28:09.760
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Neil, before I let you go, I do want to go through the logistics some more because I want all our
00:30:11.060
viewers, everybody to understand we have a full day in celebration of the, in commemoration of,
00:30:17.340
of J6 and its meaning and purpose. The president has been up all day, you know, last night about the
00:30:23.680
machines in Venezuela. He had a, uh, had a, uh, a text of, uh, of a report by, I think it was Dr.
00:30:30.720
Michael Schur, who was the head of the, uh, Ben Laden, um, tracking group at the CIA at the time.
00:30:36.760
And he's, he's a left the CIA many years ago. And he's adamant that, uh, three November of 2020 was a
00:30:44.120
CIA driven coup. This is a guy that worked for the CIA his entire life. Um, so I want to go back to the
00:30:53.440
logistics, but doing that before doing that, given your military experience,
00:30:58.640
Pete, there's a process that started today. The process started is against Mark Kelly.
00:31:04.700
And I think Mark Kelly, if he hasn't lawyered up already, he should have lawyered up today
00:31:09.280
because Pete Hex has started the process, sending a letter of censure, turning over to the secretary
00:31:13.520
of Navy. It's pretty evident to me that they're going to recall Kelly to active duty, bust him first,
00:31:20.100
recalling to active duty and court-martialing. And I think the brothers looking at Leavenworth,
00:31:27.040
your thoughts, sir. Yeah, absolutely. There's this, um, I don't know what you call it a myth,
00:31:32.740
but there's this perception that once you've retired from the military, especially if you're
00:31:36.660
an officer that you're free and clear, if you're receiving a pension, that pension is actually a
00:31:44.840
retainer because you are ready to be recalled at any moment. So basically if you, if you receive
00:31:52.360
that retainer, you know, you can be called back. And that's what Kelly, if Kelly's receiving that
00:31:57.560
money, he's on the hook, he's a member of the fleet reserve. And so they can call him back. They
00:32:03.620
could call him back today and put him in Syria. They could put him in Iceland or they can put him in
00:32:08.080
the brig. Now, the letter of censure is pretty strong because he really goes after good order
00:32:14.240
and discipline and his conduct as an officer. And that's, uh, article 133 of the Uniform Code of
00:32:20.520
Military Justice. And there's actually a court case called U.S. v. Hooper where, where the U.S.
00:32:27.280
claims court ruled flat out citing Supreme Court precedent that, hey, if you're an officer and you're
00:32:34.920
on retainer, it's just like you're on active duty. It's like you have the exact same status.
00:32:41.200
And so Kelly was really playing with fire, Steve, because, you know, they tried to be cute by one
00:32:46.060
turn, right? But actually the whole purpose of that video was to suggest that military personnel
00:32:53.680
were receiving illegal orders and that illegal orders was actually a present threat that was going
00:33:02.120
on currently. And so that, that absolutely undermines good order and discipline, Steve.
00:33:08.200
No, no. Okay. Look, let's step back and look at a real world example. Uh, the other night on the
00:33:14.800
extraction, you have 12,000, uh, to 14,000 fleet Marines and sailors, uh, air air airmen, all of it.
00:33:24.400
The, the, the complexity of making that work. And that gets down to the deck plates of the engine
00:33:29.760
room and damage control on the cruisers, on the destroyers, on the aircraft carrier and the flight
00:33:34.880
deck. Everybody has to work in unison because they train all the time, particularly as deployments
00:33:40.680
at sea, you can't put it in a seaman's mind. You can't put it in a young fireman's mind or deckhand's
00:33:46.500
mind that they have some option, uh, you know, where they can sit there and be a sea lawyer.
00:33:50.960
You have to work as a team. What Kelly did, particularly Kelly's, you know, understanding
00:33:56.760
it's unacceptable and he has to be court-martialed. He has to be sent to Leavenworth and people have
00:34:02.300
to know if you're going to be cute, as president Trump said, no gains because, because the evolution
00:34:07.900
that took place is not just the super elite shooters and gunmen to go and kick down the
00:34:12.740
door and kill the 32 Cubans. Obviously they're at the, they're at the highest level of military
00:34:17.160
training, but it's everybody. Remember the military takes essentially the common man and woman
00:34:21.660
and turns them into a warrior. That, that meshing of people together is the purpose of the process.
00:34:30.460
You can't quite, and for them to do that was to throw a monkey wrench in against Donald John
00:34:36.680
Trump as commander in chief of the armed forces. And you see how the armed forces are operating under
00:34:42.620
him. Whether you agree with the politics of it or not, whether you agree with the geopolitical
00:34:47.120
strategy of it or not, the expeditionary hit to end the 12 day war and what just occurred in
00:34:53.420
Venezuela, they're masterpieces. You cannot be prouder of the men and women, the armed forces for
00:34:59.780
what they do to practice, practice, practice as a learning organization. And anybody that would try
00:35:05.460
to get in the way of that for common political gain, I'm sorry, Mark Kelly, you're just a pompous ass.
00:35:11.240
You have been for many, many, many years. You're going to Leavenworth brothers. So they can do all
00:35:16.060
the whinging and whining on MSNBC, by the way, MSNBC beautiful today. It starts trading publicly
00:35:21.220
with Jim Cramer and the stock tanks. It went down 7% at the open. This, that thing is such a dog.
00:35:30.520
Anyway, Neil, your thoughts on, on Mark Kelly before I go back to the logistics.
00:35:34.560
Oh yeah. That, that, we used to say that stock is such a goat. It eats cans. The, uh, first of all,
00:35:40.400
you were a deck watch officer. So, you know, even if there wasn't a shot fired, when you have that many,
00:35:46.060
ships at sea, things happen. And if I'm a nozzleman going in to fight a fire in a compartment,
00:35:51.860
I can't be wondering, is this, is this operation even legal or constitutional? When I deployed,
00:35:57.820
they told to Iraq, they said, Hey, the soldier who thinks is dead. You cannot be contemplating
00:36:05.880
the wither and that you have to act as you were trained and as you are ordered. And so these guys
00:36:12.960
are absolutely playing a dangerous, dangerous game. So it sent a crazy message. Frankly,
00:36:17.760
if these guys didn't do that video, I'm sure Maduro might've come to the table and some of our other
00:36:23.180
enemies may have come to the table. It's really bonkers that they would play this kind of game game,
00:36:28.680
Steve. Well, well, you gotta help. You gotta, the system has to hold people accountable and Kelly's
00:36:34.560
been out there, you know, he talks a big game. Now you're going to get a chance, brother. You're going
00:36:38.080
to get busted down to a deck. I think a semen apprentice, I hope. I don't, I just don't
00:36:44.040
know if they can take him to lower. Obviously I think it's a semen apprentice and then we're
00:36:46.780
going to put you on trial. Then you're going to be found guilty. Then you're going to go to
00:36:50.040
Leavenworth. Anyway, Neil logistics, some argument, give it, give it to me one more time. We want
00:36:54.460
anybody in the area to show up, but particularly, obviously people are going to be real America's
00:36:58.780
voice. We're going to cover it wall to wall starting in the war room at 11 AM Eastern standard
00:37:04.140
time. But what do you got for us, Neil? Right. So I'll be out and about and doing some
00:37:10.020
of the earlier shows. Perhaps the presser is at 11. The speaking program begins at the
00:37:15.380
ellipse at 1145. The best Metro stops are going to be Federal Triangle and Metro Center. After
00:37:23.600
the speaking program, there'll be a peaceful and patriotic march to the Capitol where they
00:37:29.460
will lay flowers in memory of Ashley Babbitt and the others who died that day at 244,
00:37:36.520
which is the moment when Lieutenant Byrd murdered Ashley Babbitt. And it's going to be a very
00:37:42.460
powerful event. And I'm really looking forward to being a part of it. It's going to be epic,
00:37:48.400
Did I miss my, we covered Maduro in detail today. Did I miss, did the war room miss the perp
00:37:55.280
walk of Lieutenant Byrd? Has he perp walked yet for the murder and cold blood of Ashley
00:37:59.780
I believe he's still at Liberty. He still walks the earth as a free man. Uh, Kelly may be
00:38:09.780
Well, no, the Byrd thing's got to be taken care of. It's got to be taken care of. It's,
00:38:15.480
And, and, and murder and having a commemorating, commemorating with Ashley Babbitt's mother and
00:38:21.960
her family. Uh, and nothing's been done about this. Anyway, Neil, what's your social media?
00:38:27.040
You can find me on all the socials at reporter McCabe, Steve.
00:38:35.820
Nick, uh, Nick Fretis joins us from the Commonwealth, Virginia. We have Nick up.
00:38:39.760
Hey, Nick, you, you put something up on Twitter the other day that I found, uh, very
00:38:45.580
relevatory. You're a special forces green beret. You've done these kinds of actions that, uh,
00:38:51.320
that are in places like, uh, Venezuela, you laid out what you thought were two broad alternatives.
00:38:58.600
Can you walk the audience through those, sir? Because both alternatives kind of have
00:39:02.080
involvement of, uh, of American personnel. So can you take your two alternatives that you
00:39:06.580
think is available to the president of the United States to get this thing sorted down
00:39:09.480
there? Sure. The, what I tried to lay it out was kind of a best case and worst case scenario.
00:39:14.660
Um, and, and again, I say, this is someone that considers myself a, a major supporter of
00:39:19.100
the Trump administration. I've been very happy with the changes that have taken place in the
00:39:23.600
military. I don't just say that as a veteran, I say it is also the father of a, of a son who's
00:39:27.880
a young infantryman in the 101st airborne division. Um, when we look at, we'll start off with worst
00:39:33.100
case scenario. Worst case scenario is if we find ourselves in a situation where whatever
00:39:38.560
government ends up being somewhat implemented or, or put into position, uh, with the support
00:39:43.880
of the United States government, if they don't have adequate support, which is to say that
00:39:48.360
they don't have the funding necessary in order to pay off military and other security personnel.
00:39:52.940
If we see within the anti-Maduro political parties within Venezuela, if we see a lot of fracturing
00:39:58.560
and fighting over control of the government, we could very well end up in a situation where
00:40:02.940
a drastic increase of U S military personnel is required in order to provide for security.
00:40:08.840
We could see, uh, the various cartels that have been operating currently within the government
00:40:12.760
now operating separate from the government, launching a variety of terrorist attacks against
00:40:17.560
both Venezuelan security personnel and U S military personnel. And, and we can all see how this could
00:40:22.800
devolve very quickly where we're having to send more and more troops. We're sustaining more
00:40:26.660
casualties. Hang on. And one, and one, and one thing that, you know, today Maduro
00:40:31.860
was as arrogant as you possibly be in a federal court. When you go into a federal court, you're
00:40:36.480
supposed to say yes, sir, no, sir. Three bags full, sir. I mean, it's a federal judge. It's
00:40:40.200
got a certain way of roles. I mean, Maduro sitting there going, I am the president of, uh, Venezuela.
00:40:45.740
I was kidnapped from my home. Uh, I'm a prisoner of war. So this guy's, uh, demeanor today was
00:40:53.880
not somebody that's, uh, looks like he's trying to cut a deal or it looks like he's, uh, he's
00:40:58.900
going to cooperate in any matter. He couldn't have been more defiant, including when one of
00:41:02.780
the spectators in the court called him out and said, you're finally going to get justice
00:41:06.780
is going to be served on you. Dirtbag. Uh, he was not, uh, you know, he didn't back down
00:41:11.040
on that. So this is something, my point is that we're not saying this is going to happen,
00:41:15.320
but it is a, as they're planning now, Stephen Miller and, and Pete Hegseth and, and, and
00:41:20.800
secretary of state Marco, and they're up right now briefing. Brad's going to tell us what
00:41:24.840
it's like, they're briefing on Capitol Hill right now. And you've already had a West
00:41:28.560
Point grad accuse the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, Dan Ryan, a West Point grad,
00:41:34.200
accuse him of perjury and lying about what the real status is. This thing is going to
00:41:38.260
become intensely political immediately. Uh, and so that's what we got to look through
00:41:43.580
both scenarios. Well, this is the part two that people need to understand. Like, I don't
00:41:47.820
want the worst case scenario to happen, but it's something that we have to plan for
00:41:51.580
because one of the things that rebels understand fighting the United States is you never, you're
00:41:55.620
not fighting the United States military. You fight the United States military, you will
00:41:58.740
get your ass kicked, right? That's not what they're trying to do. They're trying to influence
00:42:02.380
public opinion within the United States because if they can effectively do that, what ultimately
00:42:07.540
ends up happening is you have negative election results. And those negative election results result
00:42:12.200
in U S forces being either pulled out prematurely or not being deployed adequately or supported
00:42:17.060
adequately. And the end result is, is that you trade one bad regime in Venezuela
00:42:21.380
for another one. That's what we want to avoid. Now, having said that we need to understand
00:42:25.200
Venezuela is not Iraq. It's not Afghanistan, but there are things that we can learn from
00:42:29.800
Iraq and Afghanistan in order to help us on what happens next within Venezuela. Again, being
00:42:35.360
a green beret, our job was by through and with our job was to develop host nation capacity.
00:42:40.760
So Americans don't have to be fighting the war and running the country. And so there's another
00:42:45.620
scenario here where we gain a strong strategic ally within South America in the form of
00:42:51.120
Venezuela. We, we remove, um, the benefits that Venezuela currently gives to strategic,
00:42:56.900
you know, opposition, the United States, China, Russia specifically, but also more geographically
00:43:02.100
relevant in Cuba, right? There there's, there's all kinds of good things that can potentially
00:43:06.260
happen from this. I would argue that the United States doesn't need to deploy a massive amount
00:43:11.260
of troops in order to actually make this thing work. But I don't see any scenario where some
00:43:16.380
aren't deployed. The question is who? So seven special forces group, they are the special forces
00:43:22.200
group. There's five active duty groups, two guard groups, seven special forces group is the one that
00:43:26.700
is responsible for Latin America. They're very, very accustomed to training in this area. They're
00:43:31.420
accustomed to the culture. You have a lot of those guys, they speak the language. So you could see an
00:43:35.620
environment where seven special forces group. Hey, Nick, Nick, just, just hang on for a second.
00:43:40.280
We'll take a commercial break. I'm going to hold you over and go through this in more detail. Nick
00:43:44.980
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00:43:51.580
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So Nick Freitas joins us, Nick, uh, continue on the seventh, uh, the seventh, uh, special operator
00:45:44.580
group down there. Yes. What kind of, what kind of, what kind of, what's kind of shocked me is that the
00:45:50.940
two alternatives you laid out, both had the insertion of American troops. Do you see a
00:45:56.300
scenario? Cause right now we're using Naval power, right? We're using a quarantine. He's putting
00:46:00.920
pressure. Uh, he said it'll exert pressure. They won't allow any oil to go out. They'll have no
00:46:05.780
cash. Nothing goes to Cuba. Uh, I'm sure they're going to do an air quarantine also and only allow
00:46:11.180
in what they want to allow in. Do you not think that that, as you see it right now, like I said,
00:46:15.840
they're briefing up on Capitol Hill, highly classified briefing of this to the, uh, to the
00:46:20.340
big shots on Capitol Hill that need to, I think it's need to know bases only today. I think they
00:46:24.700
brought it out in the next couple of days, but you don't see a scenario where we can get through this
00:46:28.880
and do what the president said he wants to accomplish without the insertion of American
00:46:33.900
troops. And the president said, Hey, if you've got boots on the ground, you got to have boots on
00:46:36.740
ground. I'm not afraid of that, sir. Yeah. I think it's a question of what boots on the ground you
00:46:41.340
have. I don't think we need to go in there with massive division size, uh, troops. Again,
00:46:46.240
when you're talking about a group like seven special forces group, these are guys that our
00:46:49.780
whole mission was by through and with, we do foreign internal defense. We do counter insurgency.
00:46:54.220
These guys go in an advisory role. They can do combat operations as well. Obviously that's what
00:46:58.380
we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it doesn't have to be Americans out front doing the heavy
00:47:02.360
lifting. One of the biggest things that we're going to have to look at here is when Trump was talking
00:47:06.440
about the United States getting down and actually running and managing the oil infrastructure,
00:47:09.860
that's critical because if you don't have the oil infrastructure up and running,
00:47:13.800
then how are you paying soldiers? How are you paying law enforcement? Well,
00:47:17.260
the cartel's got to manage, they got a mechanism for doing it. That's how the government's been
00:47:20.800
running. And one of the most important things we have to do initially is ensure that the security
00:47:25.760
forces in place are capable, that they can actually carry out their operations and they can actually
00:47:30.840
maintain security and that they're loyal to the government that comes in. I have a hard time seeing any
00:47:35.840
way that we do that without any sort of U.S. military presence. Now, maybe it's possible that
00:47:40.900
the president certainly has access to information that I do not. And again, I would argue that this
00:47:46.120
is not something where we need to go in with overwhelming U.S. force, but there needs to be
00:47:50.660
something to ensure that guys don't take their rifles, walk off the job, and then go to the highest
00:47:56.180
bidder. One of the biggest problems that we had in Iraq was that we had these smart guys come in and
00:48:01.640
decide that they were going to go through complete debathification. And the next thing you know,
00:48:05.360
we got tens of thousands of military age males with guns and no job. That's not what you want.
00:48:11.300
That's not a good recipe for maintaining security. So as long as we can maintain that security initially,
00:48:16.760
ensure that it's loyal to the government, and then allow Venezuelans to do the vast majority of the
00:48:21.240
heavy lifting when it comes to maintaining security, then you can actually see a pathway where all of a
00:48:25.940
sudden there's faith restored in the government. The Venezuelan people are starting to see the benefits of
00:48:30.460
the incoming government as opposed to the oppression that they saw under Maduro. And the United States
00:48:34.900
picks up a strategic ally which has an incredible amount of potential, both from their oil wealth
00:48:40.300
as well as other features of Venezuela. But those are the two scenarios that I see. Again, I don't
00:48:46.900
claim to have special information as the intel on the ground that the president does, but just knowing a
00:48:52.400
little something about fighting against terrorism and insurgents and what it takes to do that
00:48:56.760
successfully, these are some of the things that I anticipate going forward.
00:48:59.600
No, and this is one of the controversies in MAGA about is this nation building or are we getting
00:49:05.360
too involved here? So this is going to develop over the next couple of days. And Nick, you know the
00:49:09.820
president very well. In fact, we have, the president was putting up a true social last night. He's putting
00:49:14.680
a lot of things up about now the machines and Venezuela's involvement. I'm honored to have the two
00:49:20.320
gentlemen, Dave Bratt and Nick Freitas, who were, who the CIA, I think, had something to say about the two
00:49:27.080
elections of Spanberger. The current governor of Virginia won. Talk to me about that. You actually won
00:49:33.740
election day. You were winning on election night. I mean, 2020, we were with you guys the entire time.
00:49:38.720
And then, Nick, you went from the winner. And remember, in this, in the 2020 election,
00:49:43.980
Trump won 14 house seats from Nancy Pelosi. We netted 12, but we won 14. Nick Freitas would have
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been 15, but tell the audience what happened. You were, you won election day on election night,
00:49:58.160
you were winning. And then what happened, sir? Well, first of all, I didn't want to run for
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Congress. I wanted my good friend, Dave Bratt to be in that seat in Congress. Um, when, when we ran,
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we had certain goals that we wanted to hit for our numbers. We vastly exceeded those goals. We were,
00:50:13.200
we went into election day, very, very confident. And again, on election night, we were winning the
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by the next morning, we, we still were winning. And I kid you not a, a thumb drive showed up in
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Enrico County, which was the bluest County in the district. They had mislabeled it. Uh, 15,000 votes
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were on that. And that was enough to erode our lead and have us lose by less than two points. Uh, so it
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was definitely very, very frustrating. A lot of people are like, why didn't you fight it more? Believe me,
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we tried. The problem was, is you either run out of money or you have, you don't have standing.
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One of the most nefarious things that happened with the election and across the country and
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specifically in Virginia is they had changed so much in the election laws in Virginia that a lot
00:50:54.320
of the stuff that they were doing was technically legal. And what ended up happening is it made it
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very, very difficult to identify fraud when it was actually happening, when there was a high degree
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of probability that it could be happening. And so you found yourself in a situation where they could
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essentially run you out of money. And, um, it's kind of where we found ourselves.
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Nick, where can people get you? I want to make sure everybody reads your, uh, your social media.
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I'm sure you have a lot more to say. I, and I know there's going to be a lot of discussion on
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Capitol Hill as soon as this briefing's over, where do people go and get, uh, and get you, sir?
00:51:26.800
Well, people can find me at, uh, Nick J Freitas, all of our social media is Nick J Freitas. And, uh,
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and again, I'll just emphasize this. I think within those of us who, who love this country,
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who support the Trump administration, we need to be able to have candid conversations about what
00:51:39.980
happens next. But when it comes to the socialist left complaining about this, I couldn't care less
00:51:44.640
what their concern is. They're just mad that a socialist dictator was removed for power. That's
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my favorite part of all of this. So now let's do the next part of this, right? Nick, thank you.
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You're a patriot and a hero. Thank you for joining us, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you, sir.
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Grant, um, right now we got about a minute. They're up on Capitol Hill and they're with the
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top people and they're briefing, uh, on Venezuela. There'll be a couple of three leaks when they
00:52:10.140
come out after this, correct? Yeah, no, that's right. Uh, we heard about, uh, Pat Ryan, the New
00:52:15.920
York Congressman accusing, uh, of lying, uh, Rubio of lying. Uh, perhaps he has not read, uh,
00:52:21.740
President Trump's national security policy. It's called hemispheric dominance. Uh, it's been
00:52:27.560
very clear what's going to happen. The overall strategy, of course, you're not going to announce
00:52:31.240
the New York times, uh, but you would think, uh, politics would end at the water's edge. He was on
00:52:36.320
Dana bash is inside politics. That was the name of the show when he launched his tirade on, uh, you
00:52:43.200
know, you know, the differences between, uh, Venezuela and Iraq. The biggest difference,
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and I'll conclude on this is that what president Trump is doing can in no way be attached to the big
00:52:54.760
globalist forces that have run this country for the past 30 years. He's digging our way out of
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