Bannon's War Room - January 14, 2026


Episode 5067: Holding Waltz And Minnesota Fraud Accountable; Grok Partners With Department Of War


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In this episode of the morning show, we talk about the ongoing scandal in Minnetonka, MN involving a massive welfare fraud scheme that goes back to 2014 and continues through 2024. We also discuss the recent revelation that congressional investigators have obtained documents from a former state employee of the governor, Tim Waltz, and have obtained evidence that could result in criminal charges against him.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:10.240 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:16.800 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:20.960 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
00:00:24.240 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any
00:00:31.920 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that
00:00:38.800 answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k van
00:00:47.600 it's wednesday 14 january year of lord 2026 welcome back for hour two of the morning show uh i want to
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00:01:38.960 in the world not just america in the world john solomon joins us john so you've got tell me you've
00:01:46.400 got all these insights into what's going on behind the scenes and with whistleblowers and everything
00:01:52.400 but i just want you to tell people should know that there's a ton of activity going behind the scenes
00:01:57.680 and that this is now segwaying quite rap quite rapidly from a civil problem where we spent too much money and
00:02:04.480 you got to get these guys out to the country to a criminal issue where people knowingly look the
00:02:09.760 other way or knowingly exacerbated this john can walk us through what you got i could and there's
00:02:15.200 also activity going back to russia collusion keep an eye on fort pierce florida the grand jury is finally
00:02:20.160 meeting a brand new grand jury now taking in everything and looking at that grand conspiracy that goes back to
00:02:26.800 the irs in 2014 all the way through 2024 so finally there's some activity on the weaponization front that
00:02:33.840 could result in criminal charges as opposed to just letters and complaints and grievances uh you've
00:02:39.760 got um some uh subpoenas coming out of the senate in the next hour keep an eye on that to some banks
00:02:45.280 that were giving up people's records without uh uh without the subpoenas apparently that's a weaponization 0.75
00:02:51.920 and abuse of the fourth amendment and now we're beginning to look at this systemic welfare fraud problem
00:02:58.080 that that was centered in the somali immigrant community of minnesota but extends out to other
00:03:04.560 somali satellite communities such as in columbus ohio and seattle and atlanta so the big news that we
00:03:10.560 got in the last 24 hours is that tom emmer the number three member of the house uh republican leadership
00:03:17.040 he uh has confirmed on the record that congressional investigators are now now have minnesota state
00:03:23.920 employees we've known that there were these whistleblowers these state legislators were
00:03:27.840 talking to them they've now become federal and congressional whistleblowers and they're signing
00:03:32.560 affidavits and what tom emmer says is in the affidavits is um people saying i personally talked to the
00:03:39.920 governor and his staff governor tim waltz and his staff and i told him about his fraud this fraud
00:03:44.880 told him it needed to be stopped and they did nothing they looked the other way that is very significant
00:03:50.320 now tom emmer said i think that's enough to bring criminal charges and to put the man in cuffs
00:03:55.680 now uh that is a very significant moment because congress will take that testimony it will make a
00:04:00.960 criminal referral and there is a u.s attorney out in minnesota no glitz no glamour but they are rolling
00:04:07.360 up indictments and they they mean business and it is very likely that tim waltz will not only be hauled
00:04:13.520 before congress but this evidence if referred from congress to uh the u.s attorney and the justice department
00:04:20.000 could result in tim waltz becoming a subject or a target of the investigation that's certainly what
00:04:24.880 tom emmer thinks meanwhile we're seeing the flow of money it wasn't just minnesota so last week we
00:04:31.440 talked about this steve 700 million bucks in suitcases flies out of minnesota uh often headed to either
00:04:39.360 amsterdam or amsterdam to dubai it was a foreign um atm machine moving money out of the united states from
00:04:47.760 the somali community we now know that it was being this money was being staged in multiple locations
00:04:54.000 this morning the transportation transportation security administration confirming they tracked
00:04:59.280 136 million dollars from columbus ohio columbus ohio has the second largest somali population after
00:05:06.720 minneapolis the money is in suitcases in uh columbus it flies to minnesota it goes to minneapolis then the
00:05:14.880 couriers in minneapolis pick up that money combine it with the money in minnesota and take it overseas
00:05:20.880 now why are we you know we have banks we have remittance centers why would the somalis be doing
00:05:25.760 all of this in suitcases keeping it off the books uh and out of the radar why wasn't the biden
00:05:32.320 administration stopping it or raising questions about it and where was that money ultimately going was
00:05:38.000 it going to al-shabaab was it coming back into united states and political donations was it just
00:05:42.160 moving money out to help poor somalis in their country uh we're just starting to get a look at
00:05:47.440 that but this was a sophisticated money courier system and somalis are at the center of it the 0.60
00:05:52.800 same somali communities that were defrauding the government were moving money out of the country
00:06:00.640 so we're having street battles in minneapolis every night you see the footage and they're trying
00:06:04.640 to intimidate president trump we have two dates before us john i want to walk through the critical
00:06:08.880 path we have the 20 january upon us or maybe a couple days about the government shutdown and the
00:06:14.800 democrats are now on tv every night saying they are not going to pass any appropriations for ice
00:06:19.680 to choke an ice down then president trump following your theory of the case he's sitting there going
00:06:24.560 hey one february i've had it uh california because he's saying hey as bad as minneapolis is
00:06:30.240 it's minneapolis he says i'm california small potato illinois and new york and new york state
00:06:35.520 small potato says this thing's out of control the sanctuary city's out of control i want full
00:06:39.360 investigations but you ain't getting any money starting one february and obviously that's going
00:06:43.920 to be a massive court case walk us through that the logic of president trump of how the administration
00:06:48.640 you think is dealing with this so i think there will be three or four different fronts uh and what
00:06:55.040 has to happen in the administration's mind is the democrats have to be put on defense it's time for
00:06:59.920 them to stop calling the shots when they're not in charge so that's what happened during the last
00:07:04.000 shutdown uh it's happened when 17 republicans walked off the plank and went with democrats and
00:07:11.760 re-approved that corporate welfare that was going to big insurers that fund democratic campaigns
00:07:17.040 uh the the offensive strategy for conservatives looks something like this one i believe the fbi
00:07:23.360 and the justice department are pretty close to finding the liberal funders of these protests and
00:07:27.840 as cash patel said to me on friday uh in the story that we broke on friday the fbi uh will arrest and
00:07:34.960 uh prosecute any uh funder or organizer of these minnesota protests that resulted in the obstruction
00:07:43.360 of law enforcement proceedings so if you're sitting on the street waving a flag and or waving a banner
00:07:48.160 they don't care you move your car you uh throw something a snowball or an object at a nice officer
00:07:54.560 during a proceeding not only are you the person doing it going to get arrested uh the people who
00:08:01.280 funded you and coordinated the logistics that will put the uh left on the defensive for the first time
00:08:07.600 they will have to answer for money that was tax exempt most likely but being used for non taxpayer worthy
00:08:14.640 events uh it will begin prosecuting money choking off financial supplies leading to the revocation of some
00:08:21.920 uh uh tax exempt status the second offensive measure that the administration is planning
00:08:27.920 is to denaturalize some of the early minnesota somali citizens who came to the country and created
00:08:34.640 uh fraud uh and were involved in fraud or perhaps lied to get into the country so they could commit
00:08:40.320 fraud that denaturalization will send a shockwave through the immigrant communities in america that
00:08:45.520 hey we want you here unless you're going to be a bad actor that is something that puts
00:08:49.760 the left on the defensive do they really want to support a naturalization continuation for someone
00:08:55.840 who fleeced the american taxpayers by hundreds of millions of dollars or billions that's the second
00:09:00.720 part of it the third part of it is beginning to look at the other states and find out how systemic
00:09:07.200 this fraud was and was the goal of the fraud to be part of the sanctuary city lure which is all right
00:09:14.160 open up the borders joe biden does that then lure them to the battleground states michigan and
00:09:19.760 wisconsin and other places and then to keep those uh people there so that your apportionment changes 0.83
00:09:25.600 so your representation in congress changes so that your federal fund flows changes look the other way
00:09:31.120 if those somalis or other immigrants just need money and so they defraud it that's fine we're just 1.00
00:09:35.920 not going to look at it we're not going to look at daycare centers even though the law says we're
00:09:39.440 supposed to confirm that we're going to look the other way was that a system for tim waltz or was that
00:09:44.400 a system for every blue state governor that was involved in the sanctuary city importation of
00:09:49.200 illegal aliens and then i think the final piece of the offensive uh measures here is next week we're
00:09:56.960 going to get some stunning information it's going to be very um hard for americans to process this but
00:10:05.440 it is very important we're going to learn what mexico was doing under the color of its own
00:10:11.520 security and political agencies to bring america to bring foreigners into the united states during
00:10:18.000 the open biden border years and to create anchor baby uh strategies here as sort of a wow effort
00:10:26.080 to conquer and harm the united states that's going to come out next week when people see
00:10:31.280 that mexico has been involved in a national security operation against the united states
00:10:36.240 and that anchor babies and birthright citizenship is at the core of their strategy
00:10:42.240 i believe the supreme court will get new briefs there'll be new information in that birthright case
00:10:47.520 those are the five offensive measures that the trump administration is working on right now
00:10:51.120 wow that's a bombshell um john why i've got you you've got another piece up that's fascinating
00:10:59.600 the great game of the 19th century where the russians and the british empire two empires about india
00:11:05.680 the jewel of the crown of the british empire warm water port they basically fought intelligence
00:11:10.640 proxy wars all of it the great game of the 21st century is the arctic and you've got russia and
00:11:17.600 china was china the head of china went to canada 10 years ago and said hey by the way guys we
00:11:22.160 actually are an arctic power and we might want to take a bite out of you you've got a bombshell
00:11:27.840 story about danish intelligence who is the colonial power over greenland last year i think told
00:11:35.840 shared intelligence with the trump administration that there is an ongoing national security issue in
00:11:42.400 the arctic dealing with the chinese communist party and the russians can you put some meat on 0.54
00:11:47.440 the bone there it's it's such a great story by jerry dunleavy one of our great reporters here
00:11:52.720 in december right over the christmas holidays the danish intelligence service said china
00:11:56.960 and russia do have mal intentions for greenland and the arctic they intend to put us on the
00:12:02.480 defensive they want our natural resources they want dominance in the arctic uh circle uh sphere of
00:12:09.200 geography uh that is very different than the language you hear every day which is you hear the
00:12:14.000 danish prime minister saying we don't have any problem nothing but russia and china aren't trying
00:12:17.440 to their own intelligence agencies said the opposite now in the next couple days you're
00:12:22.160 going to see the second fit nato has been making the same warnings internally even though nato right
00:12:27.040 now says trump's strategy to create a better security situation for greenland could break up
00:12:31.760 nato they're using all of this incredible language like this will so the end of nato we know it's not
00:12:37.520 it's going to make nato stronger because if greenland is protected in a way that china and russia are
00:12:42.960 deterred nato's interest in the area are much better served and so these intelligence agencies
00:12:48.720 are saying one thing they're woke political leaders are saying something different uh this
00:12:52.960 danish story is phase one you're going to see what nato was saying internally in a couple days
00:12:57.760 um the europeans can't tell the truth that's one of the problems of the trump era the europeans
00:13:02.320 can't tell the truth by the way i keep saying as important as greenland is for the gaia gap and
00:13:09.120 the russian submarines coming down canada under carney is going to be the new ukraine because
00:13:14.480 the chinese communist party and the russians are looking at the the great white north of canada
00:13:19.760 that arctic circle and saying canada can't defend it is america going to do it this i think i think
00:13:24.880 carney and the canadians are in real trouble john solomon he's a very great report where do people
00:13:30.320 where do people very weak leader i think the president trump's you know sent enough signals
00:13:35.920 that yo guys you got a defense problem you're not putting in enough and you're not focused
00:13:40.720 on what's the the way you should be focused which is your northern arctic border john uh where do
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00:13:51.680 thanks for having me on steve thank you sir appreciate you coming on breaking up your day and doing that
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00:17:04.080 excited to announce the next frontier ai model company to join genai.mil and that is grok from xai
00:17:13.920 which will go live later this month very soon we will have the world's leading ai models on every
00:17:19.360 unclassified and classified network throughout our department long overdue and we will not employ
00:17:26.640 ai models that won't allow you to fight wars we will judge ai models on this standard alone factually
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00:17:41.520 department of war ai will not be woke it will work for us
00:17:46.320 us we're building war ready weapons and systems not chat bots for an ivy league faculty lounge
00:17:56.800 okay joe allen joins us so joe people should understand i i think that the expeditionary
00:18:03.680 strike capabilities of the united states is next level if you combine what president trump unleashed
00:18:08.720 to end the 12 day war in july and then couple that with what happened in um venezuela which is two
00:18:16.320 three orders of magnitude what any other military in the world uh could put together and quite frankly
00:18:21.440 what they're contemplating on um on target packages let's say because there is people just understand where
00:18:29.920 i am a huge believer that they're doing everything perfectly on the economic warfare side
00:18:35.200 to allow the persian people to overthrow the islamic republic there are a lot of people as you can 0.99
00:18:40.880 imagine pushing them to have a kinetic interdiction it is next level and so far beyond what other
00:18:48.480 militaries can do however this issue with artificial intelligence and actually the control of artificial
00:18:54.880 intelligence now we've got the secretary of war and as you know we're huge pete hexes and i think
00:18:58.880 pete's done a great job but we're actively it's google and it's a grok integrated into our war
00:19:06.320 fighting capability first off what in the hell does that mean i'd love pete but that was some gobbledygook
00:19:13.840 you know pete has been very good about venezuela very good about the war fighting i i didn't quite
00:19:18.320 understand i can't unpack it uh he sounded like he was making an adventure capital pitch what is actually
00:19:25.360 going on sir well steve given the 200 million dollar contract that xai just landed with the
00:19:32.960 department of war maybe in some sense it was a venture capital pitch on the ground it's actually
00:19:40.640 quite unknown this is going to be very much an experiment going forward as to how something like
00:19:47.760 grok or google's gemini will actually operate within the department of war you have this rollout
00:19:55.280 happening in all sorts of different corporations schools government agencies this is simply moving
00:20:03.280 that into the realm of the military alongside this you have the integration of ai into as many laptops
00:20:13.920 phones and drone systems as is possible across the department of war there's a company turbine one
00:20:22.000 that landed nearly a hundred million dollar contract in order to integrate ai into all these systems
00:20:28.960 one of the uses the proposed use cases would be to have these bots give it given access to unclassified
00:20:38.880 and classified data basically function as intelligence analysts do now so for instance turbine one the goal
00:20:47.040 would be to have chat bots when a soldier infantry or commander or anyone just intelligence needs a
00:20:55.440 rapid response to a question there's an issue you would turn to the chat bot the chat bot would be able to
00:21:00.720 scrape over all of the data uh in a system rather than a human going through you know page by page and
00:21:08.800 ostensibly come back with uh an answer that was as accurate or maybe even more accurate and detailed than a human
00:21:15.440 nobody really knows exactly how that's going to end up uh going forward in the future because these
00:21:20.400 systems as we've talked about so much on the war room these systems are very prone to hallucination
00:21:27.440 so the soldier is going to have to also weed through that which will be um you know energy and time
00:21:33.200 consuming so this is all a big experiment but it's a big experiment that has a lot of money behind it
00:21:39.920 google also landing a 200 million dollar contract uh both for their chat bot but also to give access
00:21:47.120 to their cloud computing system so that the department of war will have a a secure yeah data
00:21:54.400 environment for these bots to operate yeah but but this is the brand by the way drones were a major part of
00:22:02.240 both elements for particularly venezuela this is when you get into the argument are we losing
00:22:08.640 the sputnik are we had a sputnik moment are we losing the space race are we losing
00:22:13.440 the the the nuclear war capability of the cold war the kent eisenhower kennedy error this is what they
00:22:19.840 throw back to this is where actually the cutting edge of chinese of pla military and russian military
00:22:27.840 with this uh so is this the reason they're so aggressive in putting it in because the other
00:22:34.080 combatants are doing the same or trying to do the same and this is why i continue to argue i don't
00:22:38.800 know why given what we just heard in the last segment about the arctic given what we know they're doing in
00:22:45.440 technology i don't know why we're allowing any company or university to be trading with the enemy
00:22:53.520 the chinese commerce party and if you didn't see where their one trillion dollar trade surplus
00:22:58.080 us and peter navarre nailed it the trade surplus with us is getting less horrific particularly
00:23:04.880 on the manufacturing side and they're doing a a strategy called beggar thy neighbor they're
00:23:10.400 throughout the world they had a one trillion dollar trade deficit so these people are the chinese 1.00
00:23:17.040 communist party is the enemy of laobijing the chinese people they're the enemy of anybody they trade 0.93
00:23:22.720 with because they're going to try to bury them right in in in their own um exports uh they're
00:23:29.840 an enemy up in the arctic we know from intelligence they're trying to be aggressive this is why i say
00:23:34.800 canada is going to be the next ukraine the territorial sovereignty of you know what they made such a big
00:23:40.480 deal about in can in ukraine although it was two slavic entities going after the russian-speaking
00:23:46.560 eastern part of it in canada it's very distinct this is canada that's china way over there where
00:23:51.520 china and russia are going to come and take a bite so they're an enemy what why are we and understand 0.99
00:23:57.200 that this part we're talking about right now and that's why the secretary of board made such a big
00:24:00.560 deal about it and had to meet with elon master outside the spacex headquarters he comes out with
00:24:05.840 google he's letting our enemies know that we're ahead of this yet we're still trading with the enemy
00:24:11.280 we're still giving them the advanced chips without in the training in the universities and all of it
00:24:16.720 and the financing of all of it of which with that they would be leap years and they would be years
00:24:22.720 light years in back of us instead of so competitive that joe we're going to have mark beale on here
00:24:28.240 that inside the pentagon this is the number one thing they're talking about when you talk about
00:24:33.520 programmatically you talk about uh you know weapons acquisitions which is 80 of the business of the
00:24:39.520 the pentagon right uh this is what they talk about joe allen yeah this there's two kind of angles or
00:24:47.280 arguments on this one is that artificial intelligence is inarguably the frontier of warfare the frontier
00:24:56.320 of geopolitical power that's unproven at the moment so we don't know so the other argument is that perhaps
00:25:02.800 this is all placing a massive bet on something that simply won't deliver what we need is better
00:25:10.240 soldiers what we need are smarter uh infantrymen all the way up to uh the the highest the top brass
00:25:19.520 we need better people i hear this uh both from uh analysts and from uh national uh security operatives
00:25:27.040 and uh military people that a lot of times for instance the autonomous systems uh simply don't
00:25:33.280 deliver as they're supposed to i'm sure many in the audience remember the mule the kind of robotic pack
00:25:40.480 mule that was supposed to follow soldiers everywhere and it just ended up being a huge hindrance to
00:25:45.840 actual operations with autonomous weapons again you have the same artificial intelligence is extremely
00:25:52.400 important for lethal autonomous weapon systems so imagine killer drones that are programmed to simply
00:25:58.800 go out and find the enemy and kill without a human overseeing the operation uh it on one hand you have
00:26:06.560 the argument that if you don't have fully autonomous drone systems then your enemy will china russia
00:26:13.360 whoever and they'll completely overwhelm you with them the other argument though is that these systems
00:26:20.080 because the artificial intelligence is at present very flawed these systems won't necessarily give
00:26:25.760 you the advantage you you really are going for and you'll end up with a whole lot of collateral damage
00:26:31.680 meaning the innocent people are killed for no good reason because you turned loose a swarm of robotic
00:26:37.920 killer drones so there's the two different arguments one as you just said this is really hot right now
00:26:44.560 so everyone is saying without ai the us falls behind china wins we all speak mandarin on the other side is
00:26:52.560 the argument that if we put too much reliance on the machine rather than cultivating better humans you
00:26:59.120 actually end up impeding military operations by relying over much on these machines elon's elon's pitch that
00:27:09.040 robots and he says this to forms of his people he sits there and says robots are going to take over
00:27:14.720 everything i don't know five or ten years you're going to have a world of abundance you're not going
00:27:17.920 to have to do anything so there's no folk in the ai community let's be frank blunt there's no focus on
00:27:25.680 making better humans there is making better humans as far as a homo sapien get your skill set up your your
00:27:33.440 focus up there's a big focus on transhuman is of going past homo sapien to homo sapien 2.0
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00:29:57.760 war room here's your host stephen k bannon um uh i know that this is a hard figure to have precisely but
00:30:07.280 ballpark how many murderers do you believe ice has rounded up so far you know i i have no idea i can
00:30:13.680 tell you that you know anywhere between 65 and 70 percent everybody we're arresting is a criminal
00:30:20.160 i know there's been a lot of murders i wish i had that number because the number's pretty high
00:30:24.880 but um if you look at we were you know deported about 650 000 formal deportations since president
00:30:34.160 trump's been in office and you take 65 70 percent of that being criminals that's a lot of bad people
00:30:39.760 would be deported i'm asking because president trump said yesterday that there are hundreds of
00:30:45.760 thousands of murderers that ice is going after there's a lot of murders i just don't have that
00:30:50.400 number one seems to keep growing all the time what do you think is a more realistic number of how
00:30:54.480 many murderers i'm not saying the president is a realist i don't have those numbers in front of me
00:30:58.560 hundreds of thousands of people on the loose who committed murders in the u.s i think we
00:31:03.200 rust a lot of murders and i don't have a number i'm not going to comment on the president comics i
00:31:06.960 don't have that data in front of me mr homin mr homin mr homin with the defunding of sanctuary
00:31:11.760 jurisdictions could you say anything about what funds are going to be pulled back and which are not
00:31:16.320 and can you also describe your relationship with mayor mom donnie versus eric adams first of all
00:31:22.160 uh i don't think this is the maniacs but especially good funds but i support uh pulling federal funds
00:31:29.840 away from cities that release public safety threats in their communities without working with us it's
00:31:34.720 sanctuary cities are sanctuary for criminals um i have not met with the mayor of new york city
00:31:40.480 i did meet with the mayor the prior mayor eric adams because he asked for me so so we'll see what
00:31:46.320 happens i have not met with my dom the only time i've ever seen him he's up in albany new york before he
00:31:51.280 ran from there and he's screaming and yelling pushing his way through state police trying to
00:31:54.560 get a moment with me but i was too busy eating my apple and ignoring him mr homin when it comes to 0.92
00:31:59.600 minneapolis we're seeing images like yesterday of a woman who was stopped by federal agents she was
00:32:04.800 dragged out of her car i know dhs always has a response to this as to why they're acting that way
00:32:10.160 there are americans who see this and say this looks like putin's russia what is that's ridiculous you
00:32:15.360 know what minneapolis if they were if let's let's let's remember who set the stage here first of
00:32:22.800 all the biden administration like millions of people released millions of illegal aliens in
00:32:27.600 this country in violation of the law many of them criminals because they weren't properly vetted
00:32:32.800 were arresting thousands of them so first of all they created the problem with with millions of
00:32:40.080 illegal alien criminals in this country second of all minneapolis your sanctuary city you know
00:32:44.960 if they let us in their damn jail and stop being sanctuary city we could arrest the bad guy in
00:32:50.720 the safety and security of the jail but because they normally release them now we got to go in the
00:32:55.680 community and find them then they're mad we're in the community president trump made his promise
00:32:59.520 to american people we're going to find these criminals and make this america safe again so if
00:33:03.760 they don't let us in the jail we're going to go in the community and the difference is
00:33:07.360 in places that's not a sanctuary one agent can walk into a jail and arrest one criminal illegal alien
00:33:12.960 but when you release them in the community now we got to sign the whole team because we got to
00:33:17.280 arrest somebody on their turf the access they have access who knows what weapons it makes it dangerous
00:33:22.640 for the officer makes it dangerous for the alien certainly makes it dangerous for the community so
00:33:26.080 if minneapolis wants to help like i saw marify do an interview this morning let us in your damn jail 1.00
00:33:31.600 what's the downside of letting a federal law enforcement officer the the the the downside
00:33:39.200 tom homan who's doing a great job the downside is they don't want any of the they don't want the 0.98
00:33:43.280 criminals out we're we're the mass deportations wing of this movement we want mass deportation
00:33:49.360 wanting the businesses schools you got to go whatever you got to do they got to go
00:33:54.640 they've been warned they should all go home they should leave if they're not going to leave then you
00:33:58.080 you got to get them what you're doing is a part of it but it shows you how adamant they're fighting
00:34:03.920 tom homan and these guys every second of the day tom homan's 100 correct and these are some of those 0.93
00:34:10.320 violent criminals they're asking how many murderers have you got you know how many rapists this is
00:34:15.360 what walls and these guys are fighting this is what's making it so dangerous for ice agents for federal agents
00:34:21.200 mark beal joins us now the ai policy network mark we've had this shoot we had these firestorms you
00:34:29.600 got the mega base here they don't want anarchy and chaos and ai they do agree with the president we
00:34:36.400 want to be a leader in ai but there's ways to be a leader give us an overview where we are now you saw
00:34:41.840 joe allen in our previous segment joe's talking about now the department of war and the department
00:34:45.440 war is integrating ai as they have to right into modern weapons systems although that's going to 0.99
00:34:51.040 have a day it has a benefit to put us ahead of our our rivals and our enemies like the chinese 1.00
00:34:56.480 communist party but it also has dangers to it right so so where do we stand right now in in your
00:35:01.520 perspective you've you've dedicated your life now to this this single issue sir hey steve and we're
00:35:09.920 at kind of a crossroads um 2025 saw a lot of attempts by the tech industry to drive home a policy of
00:35:17.760 basically amnesty and no guard rails across any of these issues and they were unsuccessful and now
00:35:24.720 the president has directed his team to put together a legislative proposal to try to work with congress
00:35:28.560 to figure out what the right policy for the united states should be and to be clear these the stakes
00:35:33.200 for this policy could not be higher there's a lot going on in the world today uh the world darkens
00:35:39.120 we're looking around the corner potentially at world war three and we have a tremendous amount of
00:35:43.200 instability here at home but this issue will shape the next hundred years and we have to get this one
00:35:48.320 right at the policy level you know looking at for example what the secretary of war has done with dod
00:35:55.520 you know i read that recent memo he put out and i thought to myself whoever wrote that knows what
00:36:00.240 they're doing and for the most part there's a lot of good uh direction in that memo unfortunately
00:36:07.120 and this is not a political statement but the last four years or so we were kind of a drift at dod or
00:36:13.200 dow and so they're kind of having to set the ship right because ultimately we're seven years really into
00:36:18.080 the ai adoption journey in the department of war and uh we're still writing strategy memos we have to
00:36:23.520 hurry up we have to move out and we have to do this smartly so i think at the end of the day what
00:36:28.000 really needs to happen from a policy perspective is the united states needs to hit the gas and accelerate
00:36:33.040 and innovate and innovate we also have to turn the headlights on so that we know where we're going
00:36:38.080 we understand what the pitfalls are and we can avoid some of those bad outcomes
00:36:45.280 look i want to get on offense when you say that we're behind the adaption
00:36:50.080 why from a policy perspective are we handling the chinese communist party correctly are we allowing them 1.00
00:36:56.320 to get access to chips are we allowing them to get educated to be trained here to pay for this and
00:37:02.400 i realize i want you to deal with the the argument for the chips we want them in kind of our stack we
00:37:06.880 want to set the the framework they do it although they have a history of stealing everything and
00:37:12.080 then throwing you out that's what they've done to every other technology so when you're saying we're
00:37:16.000 in this competitive battle and it's a seven-year journey we got to kind of get on with it uh and
00:37:21.120 department of war has really got to get up now not just a strategy but actually the thing itself are we
00:37:26.800 handling our opponents are we basically funding and fueling our opponents in this critical of all
00:37:34.560 battles sir it's a tough question and i i can see the argument on both sides where i come down
00:37:41.840 is if it were 1962 it's hard to imagine the united states allowing the soviet union to access
00:37:48.400 our nuclear physicists and capabilities i think the idea of letting china have access to exquisite
00:37:55.280 american hardware that they can use to accelerate their own ai industry is is a national security
00:38:00.880 threat unfortunately i i you know the chinese are working hard to build their own chips and so 0.86
00:38:06.880 there is an argument that some people make that by provisioning china with our capabilities that we
00:38:11.520 slow their industry down a little bit but at the end of the day we're hearing directly from the chinese
00:38:16.000 ai companies that the lack of current american chips is their biggest bottleneck to winning the race
00:38:21.600 for ai and so it's a little bit of a head scratcher to me hang on stop hang on hang on stop just hit
00:38:28.400 rewind on that and start at the top i want you to say it slowly because i want the i want the audience
00:38:33.280 to absorb this just take it from the top hit it again so the idea imagine if we were in 1962 at the
00:38:41.360 height of the cold war imagine american technology companies and universities collaborating with the
00:38:46.960 soviet union on nuclear physics it would be unthinkable it would be considered a dereliction
00:38:52.160 of duty and i think today if you do believe and i do that ai technologies will be incredibly
00:39:00.640 existential for military supremacy and for economic competitiveness then you you have to think twice
00:39:06.960 about whether or not you're going to give this exquisite american ai hardware to adversaries like
00:39:12.880 the communist party in china and these are in fact more like weapon systems or like uranium for a
00:39:19.280 nuclear weapon than they are a commercial technology in my view now that's not that's a contested view
00:39:25.680 that's that's my perspective but i think that's that's right furthermore we know that the chinese
00:39:31.280 are working hard to build their indigenous capacity to build these chips however they're very far behind
00:39:37.600 and so what these chinese ai lab ceos are all telling their leadership in china is that their
00:39:44.720 biggest bottleneck to accelerating their own innovation is access to american hardware so it's
00:39:50.720 really hard for me to square the circle how do you win the ai race with china when you're selling them 1.00
00:39:55.760 the engines that they need to compete with you and i think we need to have a hard look at that policy
00:39:59.920 direction and and where things are headed if we're going to be serious about ensuring american
00:40:04.080 dominance in the 21st century just take you you don't bury the lead here you said it's a contested
00:40:10.720 view just what is how do people on a quote unquote on our side of the football supposedly
00:40:18.320 how do they contest that view as you just laid out what is the contested view what why is it why
00:40:23.280 what you just said contested at all when it sounds incredibly straightforward and correct sir
00:40:29.840 their argument goes something like this steve that china has been struggling to build their in
00:40:37.600 indigenous capacity and by allowing american chips into the chinese market we will deter the capital 1.00
00:40:45.760 expenditure expenditures required for them to actually scale that capacity so we'll slow their chip
00:40:51.840 making down by letting chinese companies have access to our our technology and that that's kind of the
00:40:59.520 theory the case here is like you throw it sort of you know you sort of deterring this capital flow
00:41:04.560 into the indigenous capacity by like giving china this off-ramp and letting them use american hardware
00:41:09.600 and reducing the urgency with which they need to industrialize their own capacity of course you and i know
00:41:14.800 that communist china is not thinking about strategic capital allocation in the same way that american
00:41:20.720 industry is this is not a capitalist society they will do both they will fund their own indigenous chip 0.92
00:41:26.560 capacity at an incredible sense of urgency and they will take advantage of the american capabilities as
00:41:32.560 they come online to meet their near-term needs and so to me this is sort of like a lose-lose situation
00:41:37.120 right now under the current current policy approach
00:41:42.320 mark i want everybody to get up to speed on what you're working on particularly this massive uh effort
00:41:47.520 right now to get some sort of regulatory apparatus over this uh like the atomic energy commission or
00:41:52.880 something during the nuclear and hydrogen bomb era uh where do people go on your social media
00:41:57.840 but particularly where they go on your website to get more about how you're drilling down on policy
00:42:03.520 yeah we're at the aipn.org ai policy network and we're focused steve on looking around the corner
00:42:10.480 and trying to turn the headlights on so that the country and our elected officials can understand at a
00:42:16.080 technical level on a policy level where all this is headed you know i think if it there's and people
00:42:21.600 say well this is you know ai is going to be like every other technology it'll be disruptive it will
00:42:25.760 cost some jobs it'll create some new jobs we take the view that there's sort of no end in sight to
00:42:30.800 how far and how fast this will scale and the disruption and the impact on humanity could be quite
00:42:36.480 severe and we need to prepare we don't advocate for needless regulation we don't like we don't love
00:42:41.120 the idea of regulation we don't love the idea of government control these are fundamentally at odds
00:42:45.120 with our with our perspective instead we just want to ensure that as this technology comes online and
00:42:50.560 continues to scale that things that we hold most dear the american founding principles that are
00:42:55.680 embodied in our constitution are preserved and perpetuated in this age of intelligence
00:43:02.560 amazing uh one more time social media where do people go the aipn.org and my handle is at mark beal
00:43:10.960 thank you brother fantastic perfect uh grace let's make sure we drive everybody over there today
00:43:16.720 joe allen uh i know you gotta bounce uh i'm gonna have you on tomorrow the next day and give your
00:43:21.600 speaking schedule but for right now where do people go get your writings and your thoughts sir
00:43:27.760 anybody in the nashville area to come out to the eighth room tomorrow night nashville tennessee i'll be
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00:45:03.600 war room here's your host stephen k van
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