Episode 5075: People Want To See The President Get it Done In Minneapolis; Florida Schools Restricting ICE
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Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Friesen and Gov. Tim Walz are under federal criminal investigation for allegedly obstructing federal immigration enforcement, according to two sources familiar with the matter. The investigation centers around statements Walz and the mayor have made encouraging people to exercise their rights when it comes to immigration enforcement and the activities of ICE in the state of Minnesota.
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Just confirmed Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry are under federal
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criminal investigation by the Trump Justice Department for allegedly obstructing federal
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immigration enforcement. That's according to two sources familiar with the matter. Fry's office
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tells us they've heard rumors, but have not received formal notice from DOJ on the matter.
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Just minutes ago, Governor Walz released this statement, quote, two days ago, it was Alisa
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Slotkin. Last week, it was Jerome Powell. Before that, Mark Kelly. Weaponizing the justice system
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and threatening political opponents is a dangerous authoritarian tactic. The only person not being
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investigated for the shooting of Renee Good is the federal agent who shot her. Michael, details are
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pretty thin at this moment, but we do understand that grand jury subpoenas are being prepared if
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they haven't been issued already, although it's not clear that anyone has been served with those
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subpoenas. We understand that this is an investigation being run out of the U.S. Attorney's
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Office in Minneapolis and that one of the statutes they're looking at is USC 372, which makes it a
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crime to impede or assault an officer. And it's connected to, it appears to be connected to statements
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that the governor and the mayor have made encouraging people to exercise their rights, essentially, when it
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comes to immigration enforcement and the activities of ICE in the state. And a lot of people, as you just
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said, are going to see this as a weaponization of the Justice Department against political
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opponents. These are both Democrats, obviously, the mayor and the governor. But nonetheless, this
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investigation is proceeding and we'll just have to see where it goes from here.
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Racial profiling so prevalent that a mayor of a major U.S. city is herself concerned that she could be a
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target of that racial profiling. And perhaps we would be surprised, Congressman, if not for the fact
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that that racial profiling had been sanctioned by the U.S. Supreme Court.
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You know, Simone was quoting James Baldwin a few minutes ago. And when I pulled up to the Minnesota
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State Capitol building in St. Paul this morning, I noticed the street signs in the ring road around
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the Capitol is Dr. Martin Luther King Boulevard. And I thought to myself, what would Dr. King think right
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now? What would he say right now? What would he call us to do in this moment? And Mayor Hur, who we heard
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from today, is the embodiment of Dr. King's dream. And we see the Trump administration explicitly
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targeting people across this country based on their race. The Supreme Court of the United States
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sanctioning it. It is disgusting and it is un-American and it has to stop.
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It's an imperfect precedent, which is what happened in 2020, which I think is very instructive and I
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think probably unrecognized. You know, in 2020, we've had George Floyd killed by law enforcement
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in the city of Minneapolis. We saw protests emerge there and elsewhere. And what we also saw was we
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saw Donald Trump step up and for really the first time as president, try and enforce his will, try and
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be the iron fist that he's always wanted to be in that city, in particular and elsewhere. He eventually
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went on and said that Tim Walz did a good job in 2020. People, I think, may forget. And it's
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important to remember. But yeah, I mean, what we're seeing here really is, can be distilled to four
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words, which is how dare you object? All of this is downstream from Donald Trump and his cronies and
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his allies, feeling as though it is improper for anyone to say you shouldn't do these things.
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Ice sweeping into Minneapolis, if you are protesting, how dare you do that? If you are saying,
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Donald Trump, you can't you can't invoke the Instruction Act, how dare you? I get to do what
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I want as president. All of that, I think, has its birth in 2020, probably before that in his
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presidency. But really, we're seeing resonate now. So there's an element of him coming back here to
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finish the job. 100 percent. I mean, you I mean, we heard all these reports in 2020, how he wanted
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to have the protesters be confronted by soldiers, how he got rid of Mark Esper because Mark Esper
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wouldn't invoke the Instruction Act. All of that is leading to this moment where he's very eager to move
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forward. This was foreseeable. But it doesn't mean that we're helpless at this point. I mean,
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there are ways to discourage or keep the president from invoking the Insurrection Act, which I think
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he will do. And I'll tell you quickly why I think he will do it. I had a conversation with Stephen
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Miller about this at the end of my time in the first term on the second floor of the West Wing
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of the White House, where he basically intimated that they would try to do things like this as fast
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as humanly possible to run them up to the Supreme Court so they would know what the boundaries of
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the Supreme Court's tolerance for executive power would be. And so if Donald Trump is going to do
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it, if he's going to invoke the Insurrection Act, that's this year. It's going to happen in 2026 if
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it's going to happen at all. And that's why I think they're trending towards it. And you saw Stephen
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Miller in the past couple of days frequently referencing the term insurrectionist. Insurrectionist.
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Yeah. It's not an accident. It's not an accident. They're laying the legal pretext. So I think it will
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happen. But the reason I'm not surprised, he's been forecasting it. And I think President Trump's
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getting very close to a Kent State moment, which if you go back to May of 1970, this was the Ohio
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National Guard that ended up shooting four protesters and killing them at Kent State during the Vietnam
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protests. But it was one of the things that led to Richard Nixon's deteriorating popularity in his
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exit from office. So I think we're getting closer to one of those. If this is not that moment, we're moving
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in that direction where this is going to ultimately redound to hurt the president and the claims that
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he's making about the violence on the part of protesters is actually twisted and turned entirely
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around. This is not the America we want. This is not the Minnesota we deserve. And we will fight back.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. You're just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Saturday, 17 January in the year of our Lord, 2026. Welcome for our Saturday show, which is my,
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as you know, my favorite show of the week. We're absolutely packed today. We're going to be talking
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about artificial intelligence, chip design. How does China get the chips? We're going to be
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obviously focus on Canada. Big story in the Daily Mail last night by Charlie Spearing,
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Charlie formerly at Breitbart now at the Daily Mail, about my calling Canada, potentially the next
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Ukraine, what President Trump's got to do about it. We're going to go to Arizona, talk about politics
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out there in Florida, about this insurrection act and support what Governor DeSantis is trying to
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accomplish with his support of ICE. But I want to start with this insurrection. And also correct,
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the individual there, they had so many false statements. This is why we play the cold open is
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to get your juices flowing in the morning, get your blood up of all the nonsense and lies and
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misrepresentations that the mainstream media, the corporate media, particularly MSNBC, CNN,
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New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, try to spin against the president.
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The Kent State situation was in May of 1970. Yo dude, Nixon won a landslide after that.
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And one of the reasons was he was dropping the hammer on the protesters and trying to prosecute
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the Vietnam War at the same time. I want to introduce our first guest. I want to talk about
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Insurrection Act. Stuart Rhodes joins us. Stuart, first off, they say President Trump's trying to
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lay the legal groundwork. Talk to me, what are your thoughts on what broke overnight of the criminal
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investigation into Mayor Frye in Minneapolis and Governor Walz of Minnesota, sir? No, I think that's
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exactly the right. It's long overdue. It's exactly the right course. But I believe President Trump
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must channel his inner Lincoln and use the Insurrection Act now to defeat the deep state
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and defeat the ongoing coup that's been going on since 2016. We saw it in 2020. In fact, in 2020,
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I wrote open letters to President Trump in November, December, and January of 2020, urging him to invoke
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the Insurrection Act and to take down this Marxist coup that's across our country. And so he needs to do
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this. And he needs to do it because this is what it takes. This is why the Insurrection Act exists.
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Lincoln did it in the Civil War. Jefferson signed it into law and used it himself. Grant used it to put
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down the KKK. JFK used it to desegregate schools. Eisenhower used it in Little Rock, Arkansas. In
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fact, that's the most direct parallel is what President Eisenhower did when the governor of
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Arkansas called up his National Guard and deployed them to block the black students from coming in
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to go to school. Eisenhower nationalized the National Guard of Arkansas, and then he deployed the
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101st Airborne to put a stamp on it, a thousand paratroopers in the streets to escort the kids.
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And it was actually safer for everyone because after that, no one wants to dance with the 101st
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Airborne and the National Guardsmen. We're not going to go against direct orders of the President of
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the United States as their commander in chief. I think President Trump should follow Eisenhower's
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example exactly and do exactly the same thing. Stuart, let's go back to 2020. Your argument was
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the Summer of Love. I take it that was also in Minneapolis, the Black Lives Matter, the George
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Floyd situation. Is that what you, at that time, walk me through your logic then. Absolutely. Same
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thing. You have an open insurrection across the country. I mean, look at, they're burning down
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police precincts in Portland, Oregon. They tried to burn down the federal courthouse with U.S.
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marshals inside. Across the country, in Las Vegas, you had insurrectionists shooting at,
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or trying to shoot at, court security at federal courthouses, and they were killed. You had another
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attack on a federal courthouse where an officer was killed in California. So across the country,
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you had direct violation of federal law, direct armed insurrection against federal law being
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enforced, and also terrorism against the American people. So the Insurrection Act is very clear that
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whenever the President himself determines that, like I'll read it to you right here, section
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332 of the Insurrection Act. This is 10 U.S. Code, section 331-332. Whenever the President
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considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority
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of the United States make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any state
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by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, that's what we have, he may call into federal
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service such of the militia of any state and use such of the armed forces as he considers
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necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion. And section 333 continues,
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interference with state and federal law. The President, by using the militia or the armed
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forces or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress
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in a state any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if, at one,
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so hinders the execution of laws of that state and of the United States within the state that any part
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or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the
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Constitution and secured by law, and constituted authorities of that state are unable, fail, or refuse
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to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection. We had that in 2020.
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You had stand-down orders being given to police officers across the country. My organization,
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Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, were out there in the streets doing the best they could to protect
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people because police chiefs were given orders to stand down right after Trump came into office
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and allowed Antifa to rage across the country and beat Trump supporters from 2017 on. So thousands of
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times across the country, we had to step up and protect Trump supporters because there was a vacuum
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when the police were standing down obeying illegal and unconstitutional orders. So President Trump
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should have invoked the Insurrection Act in 2020 for all of those reasons to protect the rights of the
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American people, and he should do it now. The American people have the right not to be raped and murdered
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by illegal aliens who've been flooding into our country by design. We're suing to a conspiracy to destroy
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this country. Tens of millions of illegal aliens, violent illegal aliens, have come into our country with
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the Democrats' blessings for the purposes of destroying this country and giving them a permanent
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lock on power through illegitimate illegal votes. That's exactly what's happening. And so it's not
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just about what's going on in the streets of Minnesota. It's what's going on in the halls of
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Congress. It's what's going on in our courts. You have complicit communist judges who do the best
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they can to rubber stamp whatever the left wants to do and then block anything President Trump wants
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to do. Stuart, hang on. I'm going to hold you through the break. Stuart Rhodes is with us,
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a discussion of the criminal investigations of Mayor Fry, Governor Walz, and the invocation of the
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Insurrection Act. A lot of people around President Trump said, we've got to go, we've got to go now,
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different than 2020 when he had Millian Esper. Remember, Millian Esper left Lafayette Park,
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went back to the Pentagon, and they admitted in their memoirs where they called each other and
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said, no, we have to block Trump. We have to make a pact to block Trump, which is, I believe,
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Millie ought to be recalled to active duty even before Mark Kelly put on a court-martial.
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Stuart Rhodes is with us in the discussion. He's an expert on the Insurrection Act. Stuart,
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you made the case that we had a nationwide revolt in 2020, right? Violence of police officers all over
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the place, country out of control. President Trump wanted to invoke the Insurrection Act,
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talked out of it. Esper Millie, that entire crowd fought him tooth and nail. Now you're seeing that
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they're trying to block any type of, forget mass deportations, any type of deportations of the bad
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own grace, the criminal element. Is it weak in President Trump's case that he did not invoke it
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in 2020 in the process of invoking it today? No, not at all. What he can say is now he's learned
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that he was being given bad advice. He had, you know, Bill Barr, an inside poison pill inside of
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his administration advising him not to do what he had the authority to do and the duty to do.
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So he should just go back and look at what Eisenhower did. And the reason why I bring that
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up is because you've got Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, putting a warning order out to his
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National Guard to be ready to obey his commands, emphasizing they are our National Guard. He's on
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the cusp of doing what happened in Little Lock, Arkansas, where you had a state governor calling
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forth his National Guard to block federal law enforcement. And so I think President Trump should
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just preempt it, just nationalize the Minnesota National Guard, remove that piece from the
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chessboard, put them under his command. And I believe he should do what Eisenhower did. He should
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call forth the 104th Airborne. They're still there. They still exist. Bring them in. It makes it much
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tougher to argue against that. He's doing exactly the same thing Eisenhower did to enforce federal
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law. And Eisenhower said, I'm doing this to enforce the supremacy clause, that laws passed by the United
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States and the rulings of the Supreme Court, Brown versus Board of Education, to desegregate the
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schools. That has primacy over states. States can't block federal law. That's what we're seeing now is a
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repeat of what was done in the South trying to carry on discrimination. It's the same thing now. You
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have states trying to use their powers to block federal law enforcement of obviously constitutional
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immigration laws. And we all know why. It's because they're trying to destroy our country with
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massive import importation of foreigners, just like what's done in Europe. It's meant to replace
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the American people with someone they think is more pliable, who will vote Democrat and give them
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a permanent lock on power. By the way, we ought to start with recalling the brigade. I think we've
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gotten Romania on the Ukrainian border of the 101st Airborne. We ought to recall those. And those are
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the troops we're going to send to Minnesota. Last question. You've mentioned Barr, Esper, and Millie.
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There are criminal investigations right now of Fry and Walls on this activity in Minnesota. Do you
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believe, we're still within the statute of limitations, do you believe that he should open
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criminal investigations of those three for their actions around the summer of love in 2020, sir?
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Yeah, absolutely. We should go way beyond that. That's why in combination with evoking the
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insurrection act, I've always said he should also do a mass declassification. He should take Tulsi Gabbard
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and Pete Hegseth and have them go take over with the military, military intelligence, taking over the
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CIA, FBI, NSA buildings, and declassify anything that's not legitimate national security and expose
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the dirt that the intelligence agencies use to control politicians and judges. And he should start
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with the corrupt judges. Because if he does not clean out the corrupt judges, they're going to start
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issuing injunctions against him and trying to block him. And if they do that, he should be like Jackson
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and say, well, they made the ruling. Let's see them enforce it. But I believe he should use
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disclosure, declassification and disclosure and exposure is what they fear the most. So they fear
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his absolute authority. No one can stop him. He can declassify anything. He can go dump out all the dirt,
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all the skeletons out of the closet across the country and expose the deep state once and for all,
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not just on the streets of Minnesota, but in the halls of Congress, in our federal judiciary,
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on Wall Street, in our banking system and take it down. The American people, this is what Trump is.
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Our house is being flooded with sewage. It's backed up. It's flooding from the basement,
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fill the basement, flooding the kitchen. And Trump is the plumber that we called in three times now.
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He won all three elections to fix it. We don't care about his plumber's crack. We don't care about
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mean tweets. We just want him to fix it. He needs to fix it. The only way to fix it, the tools in his
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hands, as the plumber, is the Insurrection Act and mass declassification and exposure to bring down
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the corruption across the country at every level. If he does not do that, then we, the people, are going
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to get pissed off. We're going to wind up having, if he leaves office without fixing it, we'll have to
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grab pickaxes and shovels and sledgehammers and start knocking holes in the foundation to drain the
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swamp. He has to do it himself first. That's why he's there. That's why he was saved by God and
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Butler. It was to save the Republic, to be a Lincoln, to be a Teddy Roosevelt, to be a George
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Washington, and save this constitutional Republic. If he does not do it, we'll be thrown back into the
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territory the founders were in, where they had to exercise their rights to alter or abolish any
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form of government that becomes destructive of the ends of liberty. That's where we're at.
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Stuart Rose, social media, what are your coordinates? Where do people go? Also your website. Find out more
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about you individually and more about your thinking on this topic, sir. Thank you, sir. Yes, we can go to,
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I'm now back on X, finally, back at, at Real Oath Keepers. I also have a new website for Oath Keepers,
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Oath Keepers.info. If you want to support our work, you can go to givesandgo.com forward slash oath. I'm here
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with Ivan Raiklin. We are working on concrete advice for the president. We're going to be issuing white
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papers for him publicly within the next few days that we will hope will get to him, that he can use
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to actually do what he has to do to save the country.
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Colonel Raiklin and Noel Frisch, that is, that is bad company. You watch yourself today.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Mr. Stuart Rhodes, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate you. Say hi to the
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Colonel. God bless you, sir. Take care. Thank you. Okay, so there, and you've got the case laid out.
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For Minneapolis and Minnesota, president started, it's commenced, the Justice Department has
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commenced criminal investigations of Fry and Waltz, Governor Waltz, who I think is even worse
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than Fry in this case, and Fry is terrible. So what about a governor that's doing it right?
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What about a governor that's gone out of his way to say, hey, look, this ain't going to happen
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in this state. It's going to happen. That's what happens in Minnesota, but it's not going to happen
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in Florida. That would be Governor DeSantis. Now, the question is, does that, would Governor
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DeSantis, these proclamations and his effort and his work to make sure you see how a state works
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appropriately to clean out this mess of this illegal alien invasion? Does it get down to the
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deck plates? Bridget Ziegler joins us about Sarasota Public Schools. What's going to happen
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on Tuesday? I thought, I thought Governor DeSantis is on top of this. His administration is on top
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of this. Don't tell me we have any questions or there's miscommunication down to the deck
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plates of the school system about cooperating with ICE in these situations, ma'am. Well, I would
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agree with you. I think Governor DeSantis has done an incredible job in the AG and as well as our
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president, but it does matter what happens at the local level. We have a very liberal activist school
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board member who just spearheaded or headlined an anti-ICE rally last week, and their goal of the
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progressives is to utilize this issue of enforcing lawful immigration, which is what this country
00:23:51.660
voted overwhelmingly for, to use it to incite violence or also to incite the polarization. And
00:23:57.320
so what he did is headlined this rally to question whether or not the processes that we have in place
00:24:03.080
to oblige by the law and enforce the lawful orders of working with all law enforcement agencies to
00:24:08.780
fearmonger and create questions. As such, as a responsibility, I think it's important that we send a very
00:24:14.560
clear message to our community that we do follow the law, that we will work with all law enforcement
00:24:18.640
agencies to ensure the safety of our students, staff, and campuses. I think progressives look at
00:24:24.200
this as an opportunity to really polarize, and we have to stop them down in their tracks because
00:24:27.960
we don't need them, we don't need them using that kind of incitement to empower the activists
00:24:33.720
anywhere, whether it be any local government or inside schools.
00:24:36.780
So what's going to happen? You know, you've got a great MAGA base down there. I'm not so sure about
00:24:44.000
some of the leadership in the GOP, but what's going to happen? You're going to force a vote on Tuesday
00:24:49.140
to make sure that the school board is on board for this, that there's no ifs, ands, and buts,
00:24:56.540
Correct. So I have put forward a resolution that cites that we reaffirm our commitment to working
00:25:00.860
with all law enforcement agencies, and that we will hold accountable school board members and any
00:25:04.900
member of staff that seeks to impede or interfere with that action, which is the law. I think it's
00:25:11.360
a very easy common sense vote, should be a 5-0. It is, again, we have a split board, even though
00:25:16.580
we're overwhelmingly conservative county, Trump won overwhelmingly, but we have a 3-2 majority
00:25:22.420
conservative and a very activist, progressive group, but then a very weak leadership when it comes
00:25:27.900
to our Republican Party. I will say that I'm very disappointed in our local chairman. He has done
00:25:33.220
nothing. They've been absolutely silent on this issue, which is a national, state, and local issue,
00:25:38.060
as you noted. The Democrats immediately mobilized and already put protests in place, and again,
00:25:45.120
our local party chairman has been silent. But, and he's one of those, I think it's important to note,
00:25:48.940
Steve, our chairman is one of those that has, really hates MAGA. He feels very threatened by them,
00:25:54.260
and as we saw in some other areas of the country and state, he pushed out all of the America First
00:25:59.180
patriots and anyone who is for MAGA because he wanted to protect his position. He felt threatened,
00:26:03.740
and right now, this is where we need our local parties to step up, and that's why your precinct
00:26:09.480
program is so essential, where it really allows us to make sure every corner of our country,
00:26:14.380
of our communities are activated, because this is not a cycle, election cycle thing. This is
00:26:18.820
something we have to be focusing on every single day in perpetuity to save our country.
00:26:23.780
Big time. Bridget, what's the call to action right now? Because this is a vote. The local
00:26:28.240
papers is always picking up, and they're going to make this a national situation and try to
00:26:34.120
undercut Governor DeSantis and what he's trying to do to make sure that the state government and
00:26:39.640
the local government are working with ICE and not devolve into a situation like Minneapolis,
00:26:44.040
particularly in pockets of progressivism in Florida. Of course, you guys aren't, but that's
00:26:49.620
how these activists work. What's the call to action? Well, first and foremost, it is to make very
00:26:55.960
clear that we're not talking about people are raiding schools. We're making sure that we are
00:26:59.280
going to be working with law enforcement to ensure safe collaboration, to ensure safety, and the least
00:27:04.700
amount of disruption. They want to incite fear and say people are going to come in with guns and steal
00:27:08.220
your kids. Not going to happen. People need to go and you can go to my page at Bridget A. Ziegler
00:27:13.360
on Twitter, or you can watch the debate on Facebook. But we need people to, one, they should look at this
00:27:19.580
resolution and look at adopting it at their local community and reach out to their local school board
00:27:24.620
members to say that this is something we need to be focused on to ensure the safety and make sure
00:27:28.300
that we're abiding by those laws. We got 30 seconds. What's your Twitter again? Just give
00:27:33.620
it a little slower so people can get to it. Bridget A. Ziegler. And you can also find me on Facebook
00:27:39.040
at Bridget A. Ziegler. And again, that's where a lot of the very candid debate is. But we look forward
00:27:45.240
to seeing a successful resolution adopted on Tuesday. On Tuesday. Bridget Ziegler, thank you and keep
00:27:52.980
fighting. Short commercial break. Ryan Kennedy, Chris Tomlinson, next in the war room.
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We'll talk about birch gold in a second. What we've been talking here about the end of the dollar
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empire, we're going to have Carney on in a moment, a cut from the prime minister. Tomlinson's going to
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join us and Brian Kennedy's going to be part of that. But Brian, before we get there, give me your
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thoughts, Insurrection Act. Stuart Rhodes used a term I've been using on Getter recently, half
00:30:03.060
measures. I believe one of the reasons the president polling is not great in this is that
00:30:08.700
they have tried to do half measures so far. And if he doesn't like the optics, it shows you the half
00:30:15.020
measures may not be working. Your thoughts, sir? Great to be with you, Steve, on a Saturday here.
00:30:22.520
Sure. It's a great question. It seems to me that if we start with the president's main premise,
00:30:30.440
which is that 25 million people came over the border during the Biden administration. Now,
00:30:36.560
it's a big number, 25 million illegal aliens in what we've called here on the war room and invasion.
00:30:42.220
Right now, it looks like maybe 2 million have deported. And it looks like maybe in 2025,
00:30:52.400
about 200,000 to 300,000 were arrested by ICE and maybe deported. That leaves, let's round it up to
00:31:02.280
3 million. There's still 22 million people left in the country. Now, we have 22,000 ICE agents.
00:31:10.540
And so people look at all this and they think, are 22,000 ICE agents going to deport 22 million people
00:31:17.820
over the next three years? Are we throwing enough resources at this problem? Are we fundamentally
00:31:26.340
going to get rid of 22 million people? You've been saying for the last few weeks, they all have to go.
00:31:33.200
And I agree a thousand percent. And as I go around the country, everyone thinks that. They all have
00:31:40.760
to go. Are we therefore deporting them at a pace that will get that done? And if we're not, you might
00:31:48.320
look at Governor Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis and think, they don't think he's serious,
00:31:56.860
President Trump. He's probably not going to get it done. And so we're going to do everything in our
00:32:02.720
power to stall. And the left in America is looking at this and they're thinking, we just have to buy
00:32:08.860
time here. And if they deport a few million more people in the next three years, we're still going
00:32:16.060
to have 20 million people that when the Democrats take power and they will take power again someday,
00:32:22.340
they're going to turn those people into citizens. The political will to get this done is right now.
00:32:30.100
It was 2025. It's 2026. People will want to see this done. It's not like the president doesn't believe
00:32:38.060
this. It's not like Stephen Miller doesn't believe this. Tom Homan is a national hero. They don't have the
00:32:45.580
resources to get it done. They need to find those resources right now. They need to come up with
00:32:51.760
a scheme and show to the American people how in an orderly way they're going to get rid of, deport 22
00:33:00.840
million people in the next three years. It's a matter of management and logistics. We can do this,
00:33:08.160
but we have to get it on track. It is management and logistics, but we have to address a very
00:33:14.940
unpleasant topic. If you're going to do it at scale, if you're actually going to go and the Axios piece
00:33:22.280
that kind of got this all rolling with Mark Caputo and a couple of guys at Axios, which looked like it was
00:33:28.060
pretty well sourced because I didn't see a lot of pushback from the White House. They kind of put you
00:33:32.300
in the Oval Office and President Trump would repeat, I want mass deportations. He doesn't like the optics
00:33:39.560
he's seeing in Minneapolis, but he wants mass deportations. To get to mass deportations,
00:33:45.620
we have to scale. If you scale, you have to go to where the central beating part of the problem is.
00:33:53.520
The beating heart of the problem is the employment. The bad hombres are terrible. Don't get me wrong.
00:34:00.040
The Latin Kings, Trendy, Araga, everybody that's coming, all the cartels, all of it, that's got to
00:34:07.260
go, obviously. But the heart of the $25 million is because they found opportunities here because
00:34:14.320
corporate America and the Chamber of Commerce wanted to drive down wages. If you don't do e-verify,
00:34:20.820
which the Congress will never pass, don't you have to start going to these distribution centers,
00:34:26.840
these companies, and start arresting CEOs? You've got to perp walk a couple of CEOs to get the joke.
00:34:32.420
Then the $2 million, the $2 or $2.2 million that self-deported, once you do that, kind of a
00:34:42.160
Sarbanes-Oxley on which now CFOs and CEOs have to sign the financial statements under criminal penalty,
00:34:51.220
you start doing that, Brian Kennedy, aren't you going to get some people's attention?
00:34:55.180
And they're going to start getting rid of the illegal aliens that they have illegally on their
00:35:01.840
Yes, absolutely, Steve. You have to do what you just said. E-verify, going after the CEOs,
00:35:08.180
that's a commonsensical thing to do. But let me also say there's a gray economy in this country,
00:35:15.660
or shadow economy, however you want to phrase it. And a lot of these $22 million that are left,
00:35:20.960
they're part of that gray economy. I think they operate outside the bounds of much of what we
00:35:27.780
think of as corporate America. I don't think many of them are working for Amazon or Walmart,
00:35:34.860
for instance. Some may be. And we should certainly stop that with E-verify or some other system.
00:35:40.700
But they find ways and very creative people, when need be, to find employment, to create their own
00:35:51.400
economies here in this country. So it seems to me you have to look, first and foremost,
00:35:56.640
Biden sent these people all over the country. Most of them are on record somewhere, somehow.
00:36:03.300
We need the records of the last four years of Biden. We know for a fact that they put them in
00:36:10.460
some form of record. They moved them to some state. And most of them received some form of public
00:36:17.320
assistance. Almost all of them received some form of public assistance. That's one of the reasons
00:36:22.100
they were here. Well, we have records in those Biden years of who were the new people that received
00:36:27.800
public assistance. This is a knowable thing. You said your concern was, if we don't take care of
00:36:35.820
it now, then once the Democrats get in power, they're going to do amnesty. My point's a little
00:36:41.200
more primal. If we don't do it now, they're the key sources you've seen to putting the Democrats back
00:36:46.560
in power. You've seen this. This is the mandami in New York City. This is the business model of the
00:36:52.900
Democratic Party is to have all these asylum seekers, refugees, whatever you want to call them,
00:36:58.580
illegal aliens that came through on the Biden watch, the 25 million. And not only are they on
00:37:03.340
public assistance, they're also voting. They're also, this is the muscle they've got to steal these
00:37:09.160
elections and to basically return to power. If you got this, you look at the census and all the census
00:37:14.760
data, we're going to pick up seats in the House. I think we'd pick up, if we'd done the census right
00:37:19.000
the first time, I think it's 12 to 15 seats in the House we would have right now. So we've got to do
00:37:23.980
it now. If we wait, they're guaranteed to get back in power one day. Is that not correct?
00:37:30.400
Absolutely. Yeah. My point is do it now. Absolutely. But also we're going to have to have a new system
00:37:37.980
of how we vote in 2026. This is the other shoe to drop, Steve, that we'll be talking about, I think,
00:37:43.380
in the next few months. How can we have a system of voting, both with electronic voting machines,
00:37:50.660
which we know are not secure, and also in the blue states that are in, many of them, open rebellion
00:37:59.480
against the union? How can we trust that in 2026, they're going to have fair elections?
00:38:05.500
Can you count on today, Minnesota or Illinois or New York or California having fair elections?
00:38:15.180
Given their disposition toward illegal aliens and their ideas that these people deserve representation.
00:38:24.800
Yeah. They haven't convinced me. We can have one in Georgia. I mean, even Arizona. I'm not sure.
00:38:31.240
Hang over a second. Dave Bratt. Dave Bratt, before we pivot to Canada, because we've got a lot to say
00:38:35.880
about that in the National Security of the United States, your thoughts on the Insurrection Act and
00:38:39.820
everything Brian Kennedy and I have talked about, sir.
00:38:43.800
Yeah, well, I'll do a blend of you, too. I used to do ethics bowl with, you know, 20 colleges,
00:38:49.640
and we studied the ethics of the CEOs, and they all have ethical statements. Every firm has an ethical
00:38:55.800
statement. We strive for the highest good. And some of these guys were my friends. I said,
00:39:01.000
what is the highest good? I said, I'm not familiar with that. Is it the Sermon on the Mount? You give
00:39:05.020
coats out on the street? And they're like, no. And I said, what is it? And so they do have,
00:39:10.200
like you're saying, they have stuff in print that says we follow the highest ethical standards. One
00:39:16.080
of those would be following the law of the land. And so I think they may be on the hook,
00:39:22.060
as you're saying. And Homan came out, I think, yesterday and said, we're going to make these
00:39:27.540
illegals famous, right? For all of us, if anyone gets in the hot spot, TSA has no fly lists. The
00:39:35.100
government has the lists, right? There's no doubt about that. They got lists on all the legal folks
00:39:39.840
that work hard for a living every day. And if they don't like what you're doing, you're in the hot
00:39:43.920
seat. But why are the illegals not on these lists, you know, Brian was talking about? And we need to get
00:39:51.920
enough resources, like Brian is saying, into their hands. Because it's obvious when they're backing
00:39:57.160
up, when the thugs throwing Coke bottles and rocks and denting cars and all that, when they're backing
00:40:03.260
up our best ICE agents, lawful federal agents, that's a bad look. We need to be backing them up,
00:40:11.960
throwing them in the black Patty cars in bulk. Anyone crosses a line, you know, and the gun part,
00:40:20.680
just shoot out the tires of all these radicals, right? Just shoot out the tires. Then they can't
00:40:25.220
move their car. I don't know why we just don't do some of these common sense things. When the
00:40:29.780
radicals see their car is going to get shot up and impounded for a month, that'll end a lot of cars.
00:40:34.540
There's just simple things we can do to put us on the offensive. And, you know, the churches and all
00:40:42.680
these, you know, the love crowd on the left, you know, is this love, the radicalism you're seeing in
00:40:48.420
the streets beating on officers? Is that love mourning Joe? Is that turn the other cheek? I don't
00:40:55.680
think so. I think you got to put this to the American people. Jesus, when he went into the
00:41:00.740
temple, overturned the tables. And the tables these days, I think, would be the NGOs, right? The left
00:41:07.280
always wants a separation of church and state. Let's see if they want a separation of NGOs in the
00:41:12.480
churches and the state and the money coffers. They'll be singing another tune. And in closing,
00:41:18.020
I'll just say most people have no idea now. All the big seven, the trillionaire class, all the Fortune
00:41:24.020
500, they're all 80 percent Democrat. We're used to thinking of Paul Ryan and the country club
00:41:29.900
Republicans and all this kind of thing. And the wealth is on the Republican side. That is not true.
00:41:34.740
The big hospital systems, the big insurance, the big everybody, right? Big banking, big government.
00:41:39.940
It's all on the left. What we got left are the true blue, small American business people. And
00:41:45.580
there's still a majority. Thank God. What about when you talk about when you talk about the church,
00:41:49.840
when when these investigations drilled down, you're going to find that, you know, the same
00:41:55.080
collect the same crowd that was at the border gaming the system and working with the Biden
00:42:00.340
administration to get the 25, the 25 million got in here because of a highly organized machine.
00:42:06.200
Key components of that machine are that, you know, that Lutheran group, the Catholic group,
00:42:12.720
Catholic charities. There's a couple of Jewish groups. There's, you know, a bunch of these
00:42:17.080
old line Protestants that have been taken over by progressives. When you look at when you add up the
00:42:21.940
church, at least publicly and who's on the line there at night, et cetera, it looks like the church,
00:42:27.820
a lot of the churches have lined up against this day, Brett.
00:42:33.340
Yeah, no. And they're doing it under the pretext of love, right? We're going to get into this young
00:42:41.700
lawmaker, James Tallarico in Texas. Love, love, love. But that God, he doesn't name,
00:42:49.660
give the name of God, which is Jesus and God, the Father Almighty. And God, the Father Almighty still
00:42:55.240
has something to do about the rule of law. And so these churches are no longer churches of Jesus.
00:43:00.220
They won't even name God in public as Tallarico won't. And so they're not churches and they ought
00:43:05.900
to be examined also for their tax exemption, all that kind of thing. And we need to make them famous
00:43:11.720
and put their faces up on the poster boards as well.
00:43:14.700
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Thank you Chairman Zhao Lechi for receiving me, my ministers and our delegation.
00:45:21.140
This is indeed a very important meeting and the most auspicious start to the new year and to a new era
00:45:31.720
of relations between Canada and China. We're heartened by the leadership of President Xi Jinping
00:45:42.540
and the speed with which our relationship has progressed in recent months. This sets the stage
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the stage for these important discussions on a wide range of issues where we can be strategic partners
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from energy to agriculture to people to people ties to multilateralism to issues on security.
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We believe that the spirit and the substance of these discussions and these agreements will provide great benefit
00:46:25.160
to each of our peoples but also provide an example to the world of cooperation amidst a time globally of division and disorder.
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Right there you heard it a complete kowtow and if you talk about these you know why he's over there a huge effort
00:46:54.000
to work to make the Chinese currency the CCP's currency a world currency. This is why under Biden the currency
00:47:04.900
was destroyed 28 percent has dropped 28 percent since that phony inauguration of Biden. This is one of the reasons
00:47:11.220
that the people are flogging central banks particularly are flocking to gold. Now you got Carney an active member of it.
00:47:18.300
Chris Tomlinson joins us. Chris was at Breitbart for about six seven years.
00:47:23.300
Now over with Raheem Ghassam. Also Raheem was one of our senior editors ran Breitbart London
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and took the radio show over. Next man up Raheem took the radio show over which Chris became a big part of
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when I went and took over the campaign at 16. Chris Tomlinson. First off the headline of yours
00:47:42.280
article Canada's Carney sells out to CCP after Trump trade clash. I'm pushing out this National Pulse
00:47:51.120
article because of anything the FT the Wall Street Journal. I think this gets to the heart of it.
00:47:55.760
What is going on? Canada is supposed to be one of our best allies. What is going on with this
00:48:01.480
kowtow of Carney to the CCP? Well thanks for having me on Steve.
00:48:06.680
Yeah this is a massive development really for Canada.
00:48:09.780
The Canadian relations with China which have been rocky for quite a few years
00:48:13.680
under Justin Trudeau and now with who I call China Carney, Mark Carney.
00:48:21.560
a message to the Trump administration. It's being sold
00:48:25.880
basically as an agricultural deal, a green deal
00:49:01.560
that also means that China is extending its sphere of influence
00:49:20.840
so you have all these EVs that are going to be sold
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because a lot of Canada really doesn't have the infrastructure
00:49:32.880
and so that infrastructure is going to need to be built