Bannon's War Room - Episode 5097： You Blink And They Win; We Are No Way Near Done With The Fight

00:00:00.000 I would characterize, along with the president, I think it was productive.

00:00:04.060 Yeah, so let's start with that call.

00:00:06.220 I understand that you initiated it, is that correct?

00:00:09.000 We asked for it a while back, and this was the time that finally they came through.

00:00:13.600 I got an early morning call from the president's chief of staff, who we have been communicating with regularly, several times a day, myself or my team, speaking with Susie Wiles.

00:00:22.500 And she said, the president wants to speak with you, and they called back in to us, and we spoke for about 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes.

00:00:30.620 Did the president make any firm commitments that the course of this immigration operation will change?

00:00:36.460 Well, I asked two things were clear.

00:00:38.100 First of all, I ask that we have a fair and independent investigation into the murder of both Renee Good and Alex, and that we have to be able to do that.

00:00:48.080 And he said, we'll look at that.

00:00:51.240 We'll take a look at that.

00:00:52.500 And I said, we just have to reduce these numbers.

00:00:54.580 We started out with that, and he pledged that, look, I'm going to send Tom Holman in.

00:00:58.280 We'll do things differently.

00:00:59.760 He explained to me how he thought it was very successful in Louisiana, very successful in Louisville, which I shared with him.

00:01:07.180 But ICE did not shoot anybody there, and the presence was much smaller and much more targeted.

00:01:14.420 Like they were doing actual ICE work.

00:01:16.540 This is, as we've seen, massive, massive numbers.

00:01:19.560 So it was cordial.

00:01:21.360 I think he understood this.

00:01:23.080 I told him that this is unsustainable.

00:01:24.880 And I said, quite honestly, you know, no one wants this.

00:01:28.280 And I hope that's true.

00:01:29.420 No one wants this.

00:01:30.320 What about the investigation?

00:01:32.120 I mean, you asked for him to allow state investigators into the fold regarding the deaths of Alex Preddy and Renee Macklin Goode.

00:01:38.340 What precisely did he say in the response?

00:01:40.480 He said he would look into it.

00:01:41.500 And he said, look into it.

00:01:42.980 I hear you.

00:01:44.480 We'll look into it.

00:01:45.260 And what if that doesn't happen?

00:01:46.760 Well, then we'll keep pushing.

00:01:47.740 I mean, look, this is, and I want to be very careful here.

00:01:50.000 I don't want to.

00:01:52.040 And one of the reasons that I am staying a little behind the scenes and working constantly on those calls is, is that part of this is about how you're viewed by this White House.

00:02:01.720 I think the listeners here in Minnesota know that I'm somewhat of a lightning rod for this administration.

00:02:06.520 I certainly don't want to be that.

00:02:07.920 But I've had to be speaking up about the atrocities that we're seeing and pushing back.

00:02:11.560 So at this point in time, the president certainly seemed earnest.

00:02:15.700 He pledged to me that we would do this.

00:02:17.660 As I said, we've been in communication over the weekend with with his team pretty extensively.

00:02:23.220 I'm understanding now that and he said he would have Tom Holman in here and we'll be in touch.

00:02:27.460 I hope later tonight.

00:02:29.220 I'm understanding that Mr. Bovino and and Christy Noem are no longer going to be here.

00:02:35.380 I would take that a step further.

00:02:37.560 I would hope they're no longer in jobs because they've helped foster this.

00:02:41.040 And we spoke a little bit and I tried to make the case about Alex.

00:02:44.520 I just spent a sat down hour with his.

00:02:46.880 Donald Trump and the Trump administration bend and then break under pressure that it turns out they cannot handle.

00:02:55.020 They underestimated the people of Minnesota and the strength of feeling in this country right now in support of the people of Minneapolis.

00:03:04.160 Tonight, the Trump administration is pulling Border Patrol official Greg Bovino and some number of Border Patrol agents out of Minneapolis.

00:03:13.460 We do not know if this is the end of what they've been calling Operation Metro Surge, this sustained, very large scale paramilitary attack on the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul.

00:03:27.000 We don't know if it is the end of that operation full stop, but we know it's the end of something.

00:03:32.260 Our latest reporting here at MSNOW, per our reporters Carol Lennig and Mark Santia, is this.

00:03:38.060 Quote, according to two officials briefed on the matter, Gregory Bovino is expected to be removed from commanding the operation in Minnesota, possibly as early as tomorrow, meaning Tuesday.

00:03:49.380 There will also be a reduction of Homeland Security officers and agents in the state.

00:03:54.940 The mayor of Minneapolis says he spoke to Donald Trump and that the president believes the situation in Minnesota cannot continue.

00:04:02.360 In a statement, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry said in part, quote,

00:04:05.980 Quote, I expressed how much Minneapolis has benefited from our immigrant communities and was clear that my main ask is that Operation Metro Surge needs to end.

00:04:15.620 Fry added, some federal agents will begin leaving the area tomorrow and I will continue pushing for the rest involved in this operation to go.

00:04:24.460 The mayor said he plans to meet with border czar Tom Holman tomorrow to further discuss next steps.

00:04:29.480 The core part of democratic action, small d democratic action, and the unromantic, strong, simple truth of the matter is that in our country right now,

00:04:39.680 every small d democratic muscle that we have is flexing.

00:04:45.700 And it turns out that that's way stronger than Donald Trump and way stronger than the worst designs of the Trump administration.

00:04:54.740 United, persistent, earnest, creative, peaceful protests that have not relented for a minute in Minneapolis, right?

00:05:06.040 Everybody from clergy to professional sports teams to unions to school parent groups to school kids themselves to indivisible groups to Native American activists to people who had never previously protested a single thing in their lives.

00:05:21.940 I mean, every day, nevertheless, protesting, demonstrating, telling Trump's agents to get out, never giving them a moment's peace, spontaneous, instinctual, and then ultimately organized mutual aid, community support,

00:05:36.440 alerting people to the presence of federal agents, walking people's kids to and from school, dropping off groceries to families too afraid for good reason to get out of their house,

00:05:45.580 doing know your rights trainings everywhere, responding in person when people are being attacked or taken, not being afraid when Trump's masked agents turn those very things into life threatening confrontations or being afraid, but still doing it anyway.

00:06:15.580 A cool group is, and this is me loud!

00:06:24.580 A awesome group!

00:06:26.540 A awesome group!

00:06:28.560 Greg Bovino loses his job.

00:06:55.440 Greg Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol commander at large and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a Homeland Security official and two people with knowledge of the change.

00:07:13.020 Bovino's sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Preddy by Border Patrol agents under Bovino's command.

00:07:27.860 Nick Miroff reports, quote, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and her close advisor, Corey Lewandowski, who were Bovino's biggest backers at Homeland Security, are now also at risk of losing their jobs.

00:07:44.040 I'm going to tell y'all something, America. I don't know how dark or how bad things are going to get, but I keep hearing people referencing 1940s Germany.

00:07:52.620 But I want y'all to remember something when you are bringing up that history.

00:07:56.200 The Nazis ultimately lost. Nazi ideology was outlawed through denazification.

00:08:01.760 One day we will see the demagification of this country. It will come.

00:08:05.600 And you know what else happened? Leaders of the Nazi regime were prosecuted and tried as war criminals.

00:08:10.740 They're the ones who are geared up like the way they're going to win, the way they're going to overthrow this democracy is in some kind of war.

00:08:17.040 Right. They can just have just the right military gear and just the right threatening, physical, intimidating force.

00:08:24.820 That'll be how they win. Right. That's how they think they'll win.

00:08:29.760 With guns.

00:08:32.480 The people of this country on the other side, the opponents of that overthrow, the population of this country that is committed to, you know, no kings.

00:08:40.280 And they're never being a dictator here.

00:08:44.060 They know that the way they're going to win is not with guns, is not in a war.

00:08:49.020 The people on the other side of this fight, they know the way they're going to save American democracy is by using American democratic means to do so.

00:08:58.640 And that means protest and speech and political power.

00:09:03.420 Donald Trump's immigration crackdown, not not Greg Bovino's immigration crackdown.

00:09:10.020 And I think it's very important just just to be clear about that.

00:09:13.620 It was Donald Trump who put a post on social media saying that Minnesota's day of reckoning and retribution was coming.

00:09:22.060 It was Donald Trump who ordered his Justice Department to initiate in criminal investigations of the mayor of Minneapolis and the governor of Minnesota for the crime of incitement when they're giving press conferences saying,

00:09:41.000 please, please, please, people, be peaceful, we must protest this and be peaceful.

00:09:45.520 I would also point out that it's not an issue of immigration enforcement that has caused so many of the good people of Minneapolis to rise up against Donald Trump and what's happening in their city.

00:09:57.320 They have gone after the basic rights of American citizens to protest.

00:10:03.140 And I just haunted, as I'm sure you are, Steph, by the horrible video of Alex Preddy's last moments. 0.98

00:10:09.820 Remember that he was going to the defense of a woman who was having the crap beat out of her by one of these goons. 0.96

00:10:19.260 This wasn't immigration enforcement. 0.96

00:10:21.120 This was a mass federal agent attacking a woman who was exercising her First Amendment rights. 0.99

00:10:28.300 And so it's a perversion and really an insult to people to call it immigration enforcement that's being protested in any way.

00:10:36.000 When they're protesting is a lawless riot, essentially, of mass federal agents that have been unloosed by Donald Trump on the city of Minneapolis.

00:10:46.760 Clearly, President Trump and the Trump administration are in retreat on what had been a violent occupation, I think it's fair to say, of a major American city that they essentially hoped to be the front page news headline that everybody remembered about the Trump administration at this time at the start of Trump's second year in his second term in office.

00:11:13.060 They went big with this on their own terms.

00:11:17.780 They decided to launch this in order to show off what they could do.

00:11:22.740 And now they are in full retreat with it being viewed both as a practical debacle and a moral debacle.

00:11:30.180 And they are paying a considerable political price for it.

00:11:33.160 If you were one of millions of Americans who protested ice out of Minneapolis, you should know tonight you are winning this thing and is worth understanding the power of what you have done.

00:11:45.200 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:11:53.120 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:11:58.340 I got a free shot.

00:11:59.600 All these networks lying about the people.

00:12:02.600 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:12:04.580 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:12:06.020 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:12:08.620 It's going to happen.

00:12:09.920 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:12:13.300 Mega media.

00:12:14.200 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:12:20.100 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:12:23.820 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:12:30.220 War Room.

00:12:31.040 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:12:38.480 It is Tuesday, 27 January in the year of our Lord, 2026.

00:12:43.440 I told you long ago or presented to you long ago that this is a war for this country, for this republic, for the sovereignty of this country.

00:12:56.440 And to make sure that we pass down and bequeath to future generations, the same country that was bequeathed to us.

00:13:06.640 Rachel Maddow is right.

00:13:07.940 Just make sure you embrace that today.

00:13:10.680 You can't sugarcoat this.

00:13:11.820 Let's not sugarcoat it.

00:13:12.500 We're not going to have happy talk here.

00:13:13.600 It wasn't just a blink.

00:13:16.720 It was a crater.

00:13:19.340 Bovino.

00:13:19.820 You see how they're mocking Bovino?

00:13:21.420 Because they know Bovino is a man of action.

00:13:24.700 This is about an invasion of our country of 15 or 20 million. 1.00

00:13:30.240 Of course, the business community is not going to want to deport mass deportations.

00:13:34.460 Of course, the neoliberal neocons at Fox News.

00:13:38.600 Who do you think got us in this problem?

00:13:41.620 The Murdochs are part of it.

00:13:43.500 Of course, their paid mouthpieces over there are going to say, yeah, well, you know, you got to really rethink this, all that.

00:13:48.820 Uh-uh.

00:13:51.280 This is a retreat, and it ain't a strategic retreat.

00:13:56.740 Why is that?

00:13:57.480 Because the people around the president.

00:13:58.840 You see who set up the phone calls?

00:14:01.420 Fry and Walzer spiking the football.

00:14:06.560 Instead of having the Insurrection Act invoked on a domestic terrorist radical mob

00:14:13.000 that is highly organized and paid by outside sources,

00:14:17.000 Peter Schweitzer is going to be here the second hour with Invisible Coup about the Chinese Communist Party,

00:14:22.320 the Mexican government, a book that is not one line of has been refuted.

00:14:28.060 Doug Mackey is going to join me to talk about the courts, the judges.

00:14:35.360 We're at war.

00:14:35.960 If you don't think we're at war, then you're going to play conventional politics.

00:14:38.740 Oh, you know, that pole of independence is, you know, we're slipping in that pole of independence.

00:14:42.620 If you play by conventional methods, you're going to lose because they're not playing by conventional methods.

00:14:54.000 Short commercial break.

00:14:55.500 Return in the war room.

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00:16:29.160 I know it's hard to stomach, but Rachel Maddow is speaking the truth and rallying her cause.

00:16:41.720 Look, it's in a war you have to bring all the forces to converge on a point.

00:16:46.840 They are.

00:16:48.780 They've got everybody from around the world coming there.

00:16:50.860 They call it Fallujah.

00:16:54.380 They're Fallujah to bring every bad guy. 1.00

00:16:57.160 Remember, in the last 600 meters, we have the Marines sitting there going, hey, for 2nd Fallujah, he said every bad guy, even Chetznians were showing up.

00:17:05.920 Every bad guy in the world against the American forces.

00:17:10.380 Did we have the FBI?

00:17:11.780 You see the FBI out there?

00:17:14.320 Cash did an interview yesterday.

00:17:15.360 I love Cash.

00:17:16.240 It's like a brother to me.

00:17:16.980 It was like, you know, yeah, we've heard about those signal chats.

00:17:19.560 We're going to look into that.

00:17:20.620 We're going to look into that.

00:17:22.060 You heard Pam Bondi.

00:17:23.900 We're sending a strong letter to Waltz, laid out four conditions.

00:17:29.180 Were any of those four conditions met?

00:17:31.660 Any of them?

00:17:34.080 Mr. Attorney General, did they?

00:17:35.780 I heard it.

00:17:36.200 You went on Fox.

00:17:36.940 We sent a strong letter.

00:17:39.740 The interviewer said, what are the consequences?

00:17:41.720 Well, it's an evolving situation.

00:17:43.840 Now, if you send a letter and you lay out four conditions, conditions precedent that we will rethink,

00:17:50.340 what we're doing, were any of those, did they get rid of Sanctuary Sea Laws?

00:17:54.680 Did they turn over the criminals?

00:17:55.920 Did they turn over the voter rolls?

00:17:57.900 Keith Ellis said we didn't even have time to put in.

00:17:59.500 He's mocking you.

00:18:00.580 They're mocking you.

00:18:01.480 Did we anticipate that the New York Times and the Washington Post were going to pat us on the head and say, oh, this is great.

00:18:10.880 Why do they want Pavino out there?

00:18:12.240 You put, it's like the French put the, the French paratroopers at Den Ben Phu, right?

00:18:18.920 Just put them out there and let them, oh, can you take on the North Vietnamese? 1.00

00:18:23.020 Can you just do this?

00:18:23.940 Or the Vietnamese at the time?

00:18:25.340 Can you just take this down and we won't do anything to support you?

00:18:29.140 It's like what happened in Vietnam all the time.

00:18:31.580 We'll put you on a strategic hamlet, but we won't do anything to back you up.

00:18:36.460 He was left out there.

00:18:37.720 He was given a mission.

00:18:41.300 We're in a war.

00:18:42.580 He's a field commander.

00:18:44.440 You have to start thinking like a war.

00:18:46.420 All these conventional Republicans and remember losing our country, they are almost as guilty of.

00:18:54.080 This is what controlled opposition.

00:18:55.800 What in the hell did they do for decades?

00:18:57.480 Hey, you're Republicans.

00:18:59.040 Do you remember them before Trump came on the scene?

00:19:02.980 Coming to you, they were always pushing amnesty.

00:19:05.220 They held Dave Bratz a heroic figure because he beat Kenner with no money to stop amnesty.

00:19:11.560 They were going to have the big amnesty program, the presentation with Zuckerberg the next day.

00:19:16.620 The Republicans were.

00:19:20.740 They're guilty as anybody else.

00:19:24.500 They allowed this to happen.

00:19:26.000 The country doesn't get into this situation.

00:19:27.780 And they've got the media and they've got Hollywood with the ice out buttons.

00:19:31.500 They're all over social media.

00:19:36.560 They've got the judges.

00:19:38.280 You can't you can't even you can't get a grand jury.

00:19:40.800 Why they got all the grand juries rigged.

00:19:43.920 Remember in the BLM in Minnesota, people lie to get on the jury.

00:19:48.060 Bald face lied.

00:19:48.960 BLM people lied. 1.00

00:19:50.840 Oh, they just let them on.

00:19:52.720 That's a jury of your peers.

00:19:54.140 The law fair is not hasn't gone away.

00:19:59.440 Where was FBI?

00:20:00.640 Where's the Justice Department?

00:20:01.540 Where's Treasury?

00:20:02.320 Scott, I love you.

00:20:03.220 Brother, you have a field a task force out there.

00:20:06.020 I'm not feeling it.

00:20:07.100 While the Somalians not shut down.

00:20:08.900 Why are these centers not shut down?

00:20:11.540 Where's Department of Education?

00:20:12.920 Where is it?

00:20:14.180 The Minnesota authorities were in these chats.

00:20:17.420 Work.

00:20:17.680 They're part of the enemy. 0.82

00:20:20.260 Fry is an enemy and a criminal. 1.00

00:20:22.320 Waltz is an enemy and a criminal. 0.99

00:20:24.140 And they have to be confronted as enemies and criminals. 0.92

00:20:30.300 Or you're going to lose your country.

00:20:35.180 You don't think Mandami knows that?

00:20:38.000 You don't think that group in Chicago knows that?

00:20:40.480 You don't think Newsom and the Los Angeles crowd know that?

00:20:45.720 We have 20 million here.

00:20:47.700 What, 2 million left in the first year.

00:20:50.540 And any time you hear it, we're going after the worst of the worst handy.

00:20:54.660 We're going after the worst.

00:20:55.520 That's code that means we're not doing mass deportations.

00:20:59.000 Just remember that.

00:21:00.020 Because the business community doesn't want mass deportation.

00:21:03.440 The 17 Fortune 500 companies headquartered in Minnesota don't want them.

00:21:12.400 They put a letter, please stop.

00:21:15.800 But Bovino on those 300 have to be supported by the entire apparatus.

00:21:20.240 We control the federal government.

00:21:22.780 The House, the Senate, the executive branch.

00:21:25.020 And we blanked.

00:21:26.380 A bunch of senators running the microphone.

00:21:27.840 We've got to de-escalate.

00:21:29.060 They're all going to wet themselves.

00:21:31.540 This is a time for leaders, not politicians.

00:21:33.240 President Trump, why has he been so powerful?

00:21:35.320 Why has he won three terms?

00:21:38.400 Why does the world pay attention?

00:21:39.800 Because he's not a politician.

00:21:41.660 And any time the White House staff tries to get him to act as a politician, we have cloudy days.

00:21:47.160 Not sunny days.

00:21:48.240 We have cloudy days.

00:21:50.840 And we're having a cloudy day now.

00:21:52.580 But by the way, when I did the Reagan film, In the Face of Evil, as I said, you know, about the epic of Reagan taking down the Communist Party as a metaphor for going after radical Islam in this war, the Red-Green Alliance. 0.76

00:22:09.940 Made that back in, what, 2006, 2004, 5, 6?

00:22:16.120 Maybe 2003 or 2004.

00:22:18.180 I had, it was one of the great thinkers said, hey, when you're in these long struggles, civilizational struggles, which we're in, we're in a civilizational struggle.

00:22:30.560 You're going to have good days.

00:22:31.740 You're going to have bad days.

00:22:33.440 These are long fights.

00:22:35.760 You're going to have days when it's very cloudy and overcast.

00:22:38.880 And it doesn't feel like you can do anything.

00:22:40.720 You're going to have days that are sunny days, like the 2024 election.

00:22:46.600 And you're going to have cloudy days.

00:22:49.360 Take your number two pencil out and just write down, this is a cloudy day.

00:22:52.800 That's fine.

00:22:53.620 We've had lots of cloudy days before.

00:22:57.300 But also the putting polling, independence, midterm elections are base turnout elections.

00:23:04.980 And the, you know, some of the political geniuses over there, just take your vote for granted and take your knocking on doors for granted and taking you walk precincts for granted and take it all for granted.

00:23:14.420 The $2.3 billion they're sitting on, the political geniuses are not going to win you the midterms.

00:23:22.780 We can win the midterms and add seats.

00:23:24.880 The economy's turning around.

00:23:25.940 And what have I said for now two or three months?

00:23:28.480 The economy, you can see, is turning around and the Democrats are going to get crazier and crazier because they don't have any basic fundamental issues to run on, except to get them all worked up on destruction.

00:23:43.640 You're destroying democracy.

00:23:46.860 Let's play Bovino.

00:23:47.940 Can we play the clip?

00:23:48.740 Let's play.

00:23:49.040 This is what Bovino was under every day out there.

00:23:52.780 We put them out there.

00:23:54.420 We deployed them and we left them out there.

00:23:57.740 There was no FBI.

00:23:59.360 There's no DOJ.

00:24:00.440 The local police and the, they, they stood up the National Guard in a cultural revolution, Red Guard humiliation exercise to put the little reflective yellow vest that the sanitation workers use and to hand out hot coffee and donuts.

00:24:17.960 What don't you get about that?

00:24:20.640 They weren't there to protect customs and border and ICE and doing their job and running up bad hombres.

00:24:30.180 The exact opposite.

00:24:31.940 The Minnesota politicians, the lieutenant governor.

00:24:35.260 Hell, you had the city councilman on yesterday.

00:24:37.540 Once Nuremberg trials.

00:24:40.980 You saw Charlemagne to God today saying, hey, it's going to be a denazification program.

00:24:45.420 That's what he's hearing.

00:24:46.360 He's listening to it behind the scenes.

00:24:48.860 He's giving you a heads up.

00:24:51.880 Let's play the Bovino.

00:24:53.200 Let's play Bovino.

00:24:53.960 Okay, that, this is what his life was every single day.

00:25:16.080 Last night they had a riot at their hotel.

00:25:19.380 They finally started arresting some people.

00:25:20.880 He was left out there.

00:25:24.160 No Justice Department, no FBI.

00:25:27.220 Not even a full complement of DHS.

00:25:29.280 No Treasury Department, no IRS.

00:25:31.580 Why is the IRS not kicking down doors right now?

00:25:35.100 Why are the Learning Centers still up?

00:25:37.420 The Learning Centers, why is it all still up?

00:25:39.640 The Somalians are laughing at you. 1.00

00:25:42.460 They're laughing at you.

00:25:43.660 It's business as usual there.

00:25:48.620 So don't dismiss Rachel Maddow.

00:25:50.540 Embrace it.

00:25:52.080 And there can be and will be changes.

00:25:55.400 Holman is a good man and a tough guy.

00:25:58.320 Right?

00:25:59.300 Now, their theory of the case internally is differing.

00:26:01.680 And they want to, Christy Noem and Bovino are in the mass deportations camp.

00:26:09.440 They want to get the numbers up.

00:26:11.840 Holman is, let's prioritize and get rid of the worst, the worst, the bad hombres.

00:26:16.240 If that's, and by the way, if that's part of a bigger plan, that's fine.

00:26:22.780 But the feeling, and you see the way Fox games you.

00:26:28.060 They want the best of the best and then say, well, we got rid of the rapists and the murderers.

00:26:33.160 You know, all these others are just, it's like the Republican governor of Oklahoma.

00:26:38.660 Oh, what's the end game here?

00:26:40.480 We don't want to deport everybody.

00:26:41.480 No, everybody's here illegally.

00:26:43.280 And President Trump did say it the other day in his true social.

00:26:46.020 He says there's tens of millions of illegal alien criminals.

00:26:51.400 That would be correct.

00:26:54.400 Being here illegally or game through one of these phony refugee or asylum programs. 0.89

00:27:00.500 Right?

00:27:01.480 You got to go.

00:27:03.180 And, you know, the official numbers, 12 to 13.

00:27:06.380 The unofficial numbers, 15 to 20, are higher.

00:27:10.140 And we've had a couple million, but they all have to go.

00:27:14.480 Their business model, Jesse Kelly said it yesterday,

00:27:17.340 the Democrats probably got 20, 25% support among real people in this country.

00:27:23.340 They do everything on stealing elections.

00:27:25.700 Why do you think they fight so hard not to turn over voter rolls?

00:27:28.740 Why does Tom Fitton have to spend millions of dollars to go clear the voter rolls?

00:27:33.380 Why do they not want IDs?

00:27:37.340 It's an entire business model.

00:27:39.340 In much of the startup cash, the priming of the pump is provided by foreign entities.

00:27:45.940 This individual, Jody Evans' husband, living in Shanghai, working with the Shanghai Military Intelligence.

00:27:52.060 Hundreds of millions of dollars, the Code Pink, the Code Pink's founder, husband.

00:27:59.200 Plus the CCP and the Mexican government.

00:28:05.240 General Flynn's going to join us.

00:28:06.740 Doug Mackey, five years ago today, Doug Mackey was arrested.

00:28:10.160 General Flynn's going to join us with a warning from what Andy Ngo and James O'Keefe

00:28:17.800 about a bitter pill that must be swallowed.

00:28:22.800 All next in the War Room.

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00:31:38.820 Speaking of magnificent hits, a general Flynn joins us.

00:31:41.540 He's by phone because general Flynn's a man of action.

00:31:45.340 He's out and about working on saving his country.

00:31:48.380 General Flynn, just can you just put in perspective, this is not a group of good citizen protesters in, in Minnesota.

00:31:56.080 We're at war, right?

00:31:57.660 It's quite obvious.

00:32:00.080 What, what exactly are we up against, sir?

00:32:03.120 Yeah, so, you know, I, I, I post things sometimes on my social media to educate people on, on exactly this question, you know, and what I would, what I would just say to your audience is that, you know, and, and, and what's choking the decision-making in the Washington DC establishment is the lack of understanding of the religion.

00:32:24.840 These people are like a religion that we are up against, and it is a Marxist, hardcore ideology, and that, and they are very active.

00:32:36.720 There are people.

00:32:40.800 I tell you what, let's, let's set it down.

00:32:48.580 Rear end beat up too many times in places like Seattle and Portland.

00:32:55.780 Keep going.

00:32:56.580 We got you now.

00:32:57.660 I hope you can hear me.

00:32:59.140 Can you hear me?

00:33:00.660 Yeah.

00:33:01.060 I mean, what I'm saying is that, what the Washington, what the Washington DC establishment needs to understand, and it's being choked by their own, you know, political, I don't know, just their inability to understand that this is not politics.

00:33:18.280 As usual anymore in the United States of America, we are facing a hardcore and a hardened Marxist ideological group of people that is larger than most people understand.

00:33:31.580 They are well-trained, they're well-resourced, they're active.

00:33:35.520 And that was James O'Keefe's point, you know, that, that we have to understand that these are people that are devout followers of their own, you know, sort of religion, if you will.

00:33:46.540 And this religion is, is a very hardcore Marxist ideological, you know, underpinning.

00:33:53.480 And it starts, you know, on the streets, it starts in the, you know, in the, in the cities.

00:33:58.640 And it clearly is running throughout the universities in our country.

00:34:03.340 And it has been for some time, this is not, you know, Democrats versus Republicans.

00:34:08.620 I, I, I beat my head against the wall on this kind of issue all the time because people in, in the political establishment think, well, we have better ideas and better policies because we're Republicans. 0.99

00:34:20.560 Bullshit. 1.00

00:34:21.520 This is a, this is a war. 1.00

00:34:23.600 These people see it as a war.

00:34:25.560 Nobody wants to use that word.

00:34:27.260 It's clearly a spiritual war for sure.

00:34:31.040 And, you know, and my, my thing, and that's where I'm out and about right now.

00:34:34.340 I appreciate you allowing me to come in from the street.

00:34:37.040 I mean, my thing is getting local action going in local communities, particularly in, in, you know, with community leaders and, and within the church, the churches that we have.

00:34:49.620 Because what we just learned and what they just learned is they can get away with attacking a church service, right?

00:34:58.400 They, they just learned that they can do it because they just did it.

00:35:00.840 And the DOJ walked away from this Don Lemon decision, right?

00:35:05.080 So, I mean, they just learned that they could get away with it and they're going to do it again.

00:35:09.020 And what they're learning in Minneapolis, which is ground zero again, because remember, this is two blocks from where that woman was killed.

00:35:16.900 You know, that was, that was George Floyd in the summer of 2020.

00:35:21.200 And we saw what happened in the summer of 2020 with no action, with no real consequences.

00:35:27.460 You know, $30 billion, multiple police officers, I think, you know, were killed and wounded during that period of time.

00:35:34.660 Now we have the consequences again of some of the things that we're facing.

00:35:39.740 And I think the, the American people are just tired of it, Steve.

00:35:42.900 They're, they're getting to a point now where it's like, okay.

00:35:45.740 And that's why I put like, you know, America first question mark, right?

00:35:50.260 Are we going to worry about what's going on in our country and start to deal with this?

00:35:54.080 Because the other thing that's happening and, you know, Amy Mack, who's another great influencer out there,

00:36:00.420 posted a short documentary about the rise of Islamism.

00:36:05.000 And I know where you're at, you know, right now, and I think you're down in Texas, you know, in Texas and, you know, places I say, you know, Houston, we have a problem, right?

00:36:13.200 I mean, so there is a changing landscape, a changing environment within the United States of America.

00:36:18.400 We have, we have got to come to grips with this and those people that are, that are Republicans, conservatives, you know, people that believe in our country, people that believe in the constitutional Republic, we better come to grips with it.

00:36:32.320 We better get together on it.

00:36:34.020 You know, I mean, I'm, I'm, I grew up as a Democrat, you know, you know, my whole story.

00:36:38.500 I mean, I'm not, I'm not this, this crazy left, right?

00:36:42.240 But the crazy left is larger than, than, than I think that, that the White House wants to believe.

00:36:49.000 I think that the political establishment wants to say.

00:36:52.680 So anyway, Steve, I, no, but here's the thing, you know, this, you know, this, you guys, you, you, you wrote the book, the, you know, 5G warfare, you identify and understand where at war, part of it's an information war,

00:37:05.760 but the other is taken to the streets and they're organized with media.

00:37:09.080 They've got Hollywood, they've got low culture with them. 0.90

00:37:12.280 They're financed by outsiders.

00:37:13.840 We've got Schweitzer coming up here.

00:37:16.400 Amy Mech is fantastic.

00:37:17.980 Her report, I'm going to put up the Texas Tribune has just reported that we've totally changed the primary in Texas to be one about one issue.

00:37:26.180 And that is Sharia law. 0.61

00:37:27.560 They're in shock that this could happen in four weeks.

00:37:29.640 Brian Harrison is going to join me in a moment, but I want to, before I lose you, two of our best.

00:37:36.260 Field commanders are Andy Ngo and James O'Keefe.

00:37:39.520 These guys are fearless from Portland and Seattle to Minneapolis.

00:37:43.480 They are in the streets all the time.

00:37:45.460 They gave one of the most significant warnings that anyone can get in the White House better embrace this.

00:37:52.400 Both of those guys have said they've been on the streets and they said, you do not understand the spiritual element of this from their side.

00:37:59.860 That these Marxists, right?

00:38:02.320 These neo-Marxists, they are atheists and they hold this as the religion and their heart is nails.

00:38:09.140 And you can tell that.

00:38:10.420 And they're not going to retreat.

00:38:11.820 You're not going to reason out because the issue of the revolution is the revolution.

00:38:18.200 There's nothing you can negotiate with them.

00:38:20.940 There's nothing you can negotiate about the Somalians, about the corruption. 1.00

00:38:24.940 That's not it.

00:38:25.600 It is the revolution to take this country down.

00:38:28.180 And you've had a warning now.

00:38:30.060 And that's why your tweet got me.

00:38:31.780 It's a bitter pill to swallow.

00:38:34.000 But we need to embrace it.

00:38:35.740 That's why I played Rachel Maddow.

00:38:36.960 So your nose is rubbed in it this morning.

00:38:39.340 We have to embrace the fact that we're up against people that are just as committed as we are.

00:38:46.700 These are not summer soldiers for their cause.

00:38:49.680 And their cause is evil and it's demonic.

00:38:53.000 But, Dave, embrace it.

00:38:53.960 And you can see by on the streets.

00:38:55.600 General Flynn, give me your assessment of that.

00:38:57.280 O'Keefe and Andy Ngo's warning of what you said.

00:39:00.980 Hey, the White House has got to see this right away and has to understand it, sir.

00:39:05.220 Yeah, two things.

00:39:06.100 Very quickly, Steve.

00:39:07.660 And these are Saul Alinsky tactics, rules for radicals 101, right?

00:39:12.580 The issue is not the issue.

00:39:14.160 It is the revolution, right?

00:39:16.020 That's what this is up against.

00:39:17.880 That's what we're up against.

00:39:18.960 The issue is not the issue.

00:39:20.160 It's not like underprivileged people or disenfranchised.

00:39:24.100 They don't give a s*** about that kind of stuff.

00:39:26.120 The issue is not the issue. 0.88

00:39:27.600 It is the revolution.

00:39:28.700 That's what their cause is.

00:39:29.740 That's what their religion is.

00:39:30.940 The second thing, and this is sort of a dear Mr. President, right?

00:39:34.380 I think that the president, in order to get a better sense of what it is that we're up against,

00:39:39.480 he needs to form like a people's council.

00:39:42.360 We mentioned a couple of names already here.

00:39:44.860 Like a people's council.

00:39:45.940 And he needs to bring them together quickly and get advice on what it is that we are facing.

00:39:52.620 You know, because he's not going to get it from the bureaucracy inside of Washington, D.C.

00:39:57.960 I'm sorry.

00:39:59.040 He's just not going to get it.

00:40:00.500 And because they're the ones, they're part of the problem.

00:40:03.560 In fact, many cases, they're going to be fighting back, you know, slow rolling and doing the kinds of things that we've already seen,

00:40:10.080 whether it's Department of Homeland Security, Department of Justice, even in Department of War.

00:40:14.880 So I think that what the president needs to do is he needs to kind of do a little bit of some net fishing for the right people,

00:40:22.180 bring some people in and say, OK, you guys are the ones that are out there on the streets.

00:40:26.800 Tell me what I'm missing, because he's not being told what the reality of the situation is.

00:40:32.960 He's not because he's not acting. He's not acting. He's not making decisions that I can see that are in the best interest of the safety and security of the American people

00:40:43.440 as it relates to this situation right now. And and and I think he's hesitant.

00:40:48.640 I actually think that he's hesitant. So that's that's what my my my ask is to him.

00:40:53.780 But for the for the audience and for the people of this country, this is a revolution that we are in and in involved in.

00:41:01.420 And these are Saul Alinsky. Read the damn book. Rules for Radicals. Yeah. 0.99

00:41:05.340 Read the 5GW book that we wrote. That's the counter to it.

00:41:12.540 General Flynn, where do you go? Where do you go to get your content? We're on social media.

00:41:16.680 Where do we get the book? Yeah.

00:41:18.720 People can go to General Flynn dot com. And, you know, and and, you know, I want I want I want the idea of local action to sink in to this country,

00:41:29.140 because we're not going to win it in Washington, D.C.

00:41:32.160 We're going to win it in, you know, in every single county in this country.

00:41:36.100 That's how we win this country back. That's how we stitch the fabric of this constitutional republic back together.

00:41:41.720 So God bless, Steve. Thanks for having me.

00:41:45.080 Thank you. General Flynn, thanks for taking time.

00:41:47.480 I know you're running around. So thank you so much.

00:41:50.720 Also, folks, read these tweets of Flynn O'Keefe and Andy.

00:41:55.400 No, just read them. And Andy and James have been street level on this forever.

00:42:02.540 They know. And they both give you the same warning.

00:42:05.460 This is not like even. We've dealt with before.

00:42:09.080 It's more organized. It's more discipline.

00:42:12.460 And they think they're going to win their trial run.

00:42:15.240 And remember, the entire system, the Chinese Communist Party.

00:42:19.100 With it, with the bioweapon, then in the summer of love, 2020, they had a test run on this in 2020.

00:42:25.900 Remember, they went all in, including changing everything on the machines, but changing everything in the mail in ballots.

00:42:31.940 Their number one priority is they had to remove Trump from Washington, D.C.

00:42:36.660 With the impeachments and then the other impeachment.

00:42:39.980 This is why the years in the wilderness that came after President Trump to put him in jail for 300 years.

00:42:45.060 That's the exact same thing you see in the streets.

00:42:47.080 They understand Trump and the MAGA movement is what stands between them and total victory and taking away, taking over the greatest country in the history of mankind.

00:42:59.120 And that's why these tactics and you can't send people like Bovino, these heroes and give them a mandate and just let them be there like a little enclave.

00:43:07.960 Because they're bringing all their forces to bear.

00:43:12.080 They're converging on a target.

00:43:14.620 They're converging on.

00:43:15.920 They say, look, if we can defeat these guys in Minneapolis, we can break their spirits.

00:43:20.760 How many of you in the mumble tank this morning?

00:43:23.940 How many of you are sitting there going, man, what is going on here?

00:43:27.400 This is a process.

00:43:31.740 War is a process.

00:43:32.860 And we're at war.

00:43:34.140 Anybody that doesn't understand that, just get out of here.

00:43:37.020 I don't want to, you know, any of these guys in D.C., Sean, President Trump, well, you know, you're down 10 points with independence.

00:43:43.120 Do not get it.

00:43:45.820 The people around him are giving him historically awful, awful, awful advice.

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00:46:58.360 Five years ago today, you were arrested for putting up a meme about Hillary Clinton.

00:47:04.120 People still today can't believe it.

00:47:05.800 Now, you've come out and you've started with Cynthia Hughes, a new group to combat this.

00:47:12.320 Are we at war or not?

00:47:13.540 You've seen it.

00:47:14.120 You've seen the sharp end of the stick.

00:47:16.560 Do you believe we're at war here?

00:47:19.260 This is a domestic insurgency.

00:47:21.360 I believe it is a war. 0.95

00:47:22.880 And it runs from the streets all the way to the governor's offices of some of these blue states and into the federal judiciary.

00:47:30.600 And five years ago, I was arrested.

00:47:32.260 And there's no better illustration of that than my case when the justice system was instrumentalized with the eager assistance of the federal judiciary to go after MAGA.

00:47:46.440 Myself, President Trump, we were hit with charges like the Klan Act, which a federal judge now refuses to sign charges on for Don Lemon.

00:47:55.040 So, when Trump was out of office, the federal judiciary went after us.

00:48:01.120 And now that Trump's back in office, they're refusing to act to maintain law and order.

00:48:08.620 So, this is absolutely a domestic insurgency situation.

00:48:11.920 And this runs through the judiciary.

00:48:14.280 It's a judicial insurrection as well.

00:48:19.080 What can be done about it?

00:48:20.800 You saw it.

00:48:22.440 Just to remind people, what did you actually do?

00:48:25.260 What was your crime, sir?

00:48:27.700 Exactly.

00:48:28.080 So, I posted a meme, which I just found floating around the Internet, saying Hillary Clinton supporters could text their vote and they could skip the line.

00:48:40.380 And nobody, the federal government, tried to actually find people who were tricked by this meme.

00:48:45.900 They couldn't find anybody because, first of all, it wasn't targeted towards anybody.

00:48:50.420 It was just a joke.

00:48:51.300 It was a laugh.

00:48:52.080 And for this, they brought Klan Act charges, a law that's almost 150 years old, that's meant for people being lynched, people being beaten up for voting or using their First Amendment rights.

00:49:07.260 So, this is the act they used against me.

00:49:09.760 We're talking about weaponization, and it's unbelievable.

00:49:11.960 So, if you're asking, what can we do about it?

00:49:15.200 Well, it's difficult with the blue slip system to even for Trump to get federal judges into the system.

00:49:21.660 But one thing I would urge the president to do, there's only really been one U.S. attorney's office that's been cleaned out, and that would be D.C.

00:49:30.560 And there's 94 other offices.

00:49:33.600 The career bureaucrats are still in place.

00:49:36.600 I wish I could blame Biden for indicting me, but the fact is, when I was indicted, it was only seven days after Biden was inaugurated.

00:49:44.560 And Biden didn't have his U.S. attorney in place.

00:49:47.160 He didn't have his attorney general in place.

00:49:50.800 These were prosecutions that were instigated by career bureaucrats in the system, and these people are still burrowed in.

00:49:58.640 They're biding their time for January 20th, 2029.

00:50:01.880 And seven days after Biden was inaugurated, I was arrested, and the same exact thing can happen all over again with a complicit federal judiciary and U.S. attorney's offices that don't obey the president and that don't really have any sense of fairness.

00:50:17.900 They really just want to go after MAGA because they see us, like Charlemagne the God said this morning or yesterday, as a Nazi movement, and they want to demagify the country.

00:50:27.720 So just because President Trump won the election, there's a long way to go in this war, and it's nowhere near one, and it's nowhere near over.

00:50:37.600 This is the point.

00:50:40.360 Also, you can't get – remember, President Trump and main justice, he can't get guys approved.

00:50:44.280 We've only gotten 14 of the 94 U.S. attorneys, and only one office has been cleaned out.

00:50:48.620 That's Judge Jeanine because she took a machete in a – you know, she created a firestorm or they hit it with a blowtorch. 1.00

00:50:58.300 There's only been one – the career bureaucrats have only been driven out of one of the 94, and we don't even have with the blue slips that are slowing him down.

00:51:05.600 They just do – what is it, Harrigan out.

00:51:09.280 Alina Habab's been thrown out. 0.55

00:51:12.020 Seagal Chata out in Nevada, they're going to get her. 0.99

00:51:14.940 They're going to get all the ones he put on an interim basis, and so they're playing smash mouth.

00:51:19.600 This is what they do.

00:51:21.740 With the Republicans, it's always a pillow fight.

00:51:25.060 They don't – these people are at war with us.

00:51:28.200 This is not your parents' or grandparents' Democratic Party.

00:51:33.380 This is not the Democratic Party of Jack Kennedy or back in the 50s.

00:51:38.140 It's not.

00:51:39.360 Or 60s.

00:51:40.240 This is not about marginal tax rates.

00:51:43.380 They're at war with us.

00:51:44.500 They're a group of neo-Marxists.

00:51:46.220 It's a red-green alliance.

00:51:48.700 And the judiciary may be the most radical.

00:51:51.420 The most radical part may be the lawyers because these kids have been formed since grade school.

00:51:56.080 Most of them – a lot of them went to private schools.

00:51:58.320 They've been formed by these radical private schools in New York City and other places with the elite.

00:52:03.800 They go to these elite colleges, which if you think the Ivys are bad, then step down.

00:52:10.300 It's the Ivy equivalents are the cover schools for these people, right?

00:52:16.180 The Middlebury's and these schools that are the worst, they're completely, totally radical.

00:52:20.360 Then they go to the law schools, and the law schools are more radical than that.

00:52:25.220 Doug, where can we get you in your new – you get it.

00:52:29.040 I know Cynthia Hughes does.

00:52:30.080 You guys have got a new organization.

00:52:31.340 We've got about a minute.

00:52:31.940 Talk to us about where to go.

00:52:34.880 Go to weaponizationwatch.com.

00:52:37.080 You can find me on Twitter or get her at Douglas Mackey with two S's.

00:52:41.660 And like I said, these are not FDR New Deal Democrats. 0.95

00:52:45.200 These are vicious communists, the type that slit babies' throats and put priests up against the wall in Spain and Russia. 0.95

00:52:52.120 And this is a communist insurrection. 0.95

00:52:56.960 Actually, there may be some elements from FDR.

00:52:59.000 There may be some – the guys who work for the KGB, I have stone in that crowd.

00:53:03.980 Doug Mackey, you're a hero, a patriot.

00:53:07.980 Thank you, Steve.

00:53:08.520 I just tasted this part of the Moscow show – the Moscow show – that's what Charlemagne Degas is telling you.

00:53:13.620 But he's giving you a heads up.

00:53:15.400 He's telling you they're going to have the Moscow show trials.

00:53:18.300 The city councilman in Minneapolis argued for it.

00:53:23.000 He says, we're going to have the Nuremberg trials.

00:53:24.840 They think you're Nazis, and they're going to go through a demaggification process.

00:53:30.300 So it's either them or us.

00:53:33.280 I've got our money on us.

00:53:34.880 I'm long MAGA.

00:53:37.360 Although it's a cloudy day, I got that.

00:53:39.760 But you've got to have some cloudy days.

00:53:41.960 Short break.

00:53:43.460 Peter Schweitzer, Brian Harrison, next in the War Room.

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Bannon's War Room - January 27, 2026

Episode 5097： You Blink And They Win; We Are No Way Near Done With The Fight

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