Stephen K. Bannon and Ben Burqam join host Stephen K. Banno to discuss the latest on the ICE raid of ICE agents in Baltimore, Maryland, as well as the ongoing investigation into ICE Director Tom Holman.
00:03:18.000First off, uh, Ben Burquam real America's voice news on behalf of the American people.
00:03:22.000I just want to say thank you to you and to all of the agents that are putting their lives on the line to go after the people that were allowed in in the last administration.
00:03:29.000We watched that happen in the media, the honest media, covered up by many of the media that are behind me.
00:03:35.000And to all the men and women that are out there.
00:03:37.000Uh, can you talk to us about what's being done, uh, with the leadership on these signal chats, on these, uh, WhatsApp chats that are organizing the attacks against you?
00:03:46.000Uh, the obstructing obstruction against you.
00:03:48.000Are there, are we going to be arresting those individuals as well?
00:03:51.000And to the folks out there in America that voted for this, that want mass deportations because they saw a mass invasion under Joe Biden.
00:05:44.000But my three, two and a half days up here, we made a lot of progress.
00:05:49.000I think everybody agrees on the criminal and public safety threats.
00:05:52.000They agree it's much safer and easier to arrest an alien in the facility than send a whole team out in the field that's going to draw anger.
00:06:03.000Because now we've got to send a bunch of people to do something that could have been done by one or two people.
00:06:54.000You had Tucker and Andrew, yours truly, forming you as a young cub reporter to be the titan, the Goliath you are today.
00:07:03.000We're going to talk about your poll in a minute, but just right there, you caught Burkwam.
00:07:07.000I got to tell you, this is the difference between a guy that works at this job is going to ask a straight question and the rest of the sycophants over the mainstream media.
00:07:15.000They were all trying to do minute narrative building around what happened.
00:07:18.000Your thoughts, Matt, what you just heard.
00:07:20.000Well, yeah, I was very proud to hear that question because, by the way, if I had a reporter at that press conference for Breitbart, that's exactly the question I would have told them to ask.
00:07:30.000And I workshop questions with our team all the time when they're talking to the president and other people around him and so on and so forth.
00:07:37.000And we regularly have people at a lot of these press availabilities that you see with President Trump and other people in the administration.
00:07:46.000I think that the thing that they need to zone in on is these, it's essentially a militia that these radical leftists essentially terrorists have stood up where they are coordinating and communicating, you know, building dispatches and patrols, et cetera, to disrupt federal law enforcement.
00:08:06.000I mean, that's the definition of an insurrection, I think, right?
00:08:10.000Like, I mean, it feels a lot like kind of like the Whiskey Rebellion or something, right, like, you know, from history, right?
00:08:17.000Like, and so it's up to the federal government to not tolerate this.
00:08:21.000So either we're going to tolerate it where people who are unelected are going to be able to go out there and engage in this terroristic activity interfering with the elected leadership's law enforcement or not, right?
00:08:36.000Like, and so do we have a democracy or not, right?
00:08:38.000Like, I mean, for years we heard the left screaming that we have a democracy, democracy is under attack.
00:08:43.000Well, the people who are engaged in these signal chats and patrols and dispatches against ICE and other Homeland Security law enforcement officials in Minnesota are engaged in an attack on our democracy, right?
00:08:56.000Like, the federal law enforcement officers who are there are there at the direction of the elected president of the United States.
00:09:06.000And President Trump legitimately won the election in 2024.
00:09:12.000Anybody who's claiming that he didn't is ridiculous.
00:09:16.000And again, that's the second part of Ben's question is what Homan would say to the people who voted for this.
00:09:35.000I know that he talked about this in every single rally speech, in the debates, in every forum that he had.
00:09:42.000He talked about immigration and the need to deport criminal illegal aliens and broader mass deportations.
00:09:49.000It was extremely abundantly clear that that's what the American people were voting on.
00:09:53.000It was the number one issue right alongside the economy in the 2024 election.
00:09:59.000And President Trump won all seven swing states in a landslide election in the national popular vote.
00:10:04.000And even more so than 2016, assembled a new political coalition of working class voters that included young black men and Hispanic voters who were also very clear that they knew that this is what they were voting for.
00:10:20.000So this is, again, the people that are engaged in subversive actions against the United States on this front are essentially engaged in an insurrection.
00:10:31.000So how the president handles this is going to define a big part of his presidency, right?
00:10:38.000So what he's decided to do, clearly, is dispatch Tom Homan there to see if they can take the temperature down and get cooperation from state and local officials.
00:10:47.000We'll see what happens, right? Like, you know, apparently they're all, you know, giving the hubba-da-hubba-da-hubba-da, saying the right things sometimes, other times not.
00:10:57.000But then the question is, do they cooperate?
00:11:31.000Hang on, Matt, because I've got to get other thoughts on you, and particularly this poll that Breitbart ran that's very illuminating about Iran.
00:13:17.000And what's interesting too here is if he can shift the focus, if they actually get Frye and if they get Minneapolis and the state to actually start releasing these guys in the jails and in the prisons, you don't have to send the guys out into the streets to do what's called targeted enforcement.
00:13:34.000But targeted enforcement includes a lot of different operations.
00:13:37.000That's going after the really, really bad, bad guys, you know, with multiple criminal felony records, as well as going into targeted communities that you know are, you know, they're, they're places in our country that are 80% illegal.
00:13:49.000And so some targeted enforcement, you want to do mass deportations.
00:13:54.000You go into those communities and you simply get out of your vehicle and you watch your runs and you get probable cause to go track them down and check their status.
00:14:01.000So there's, you know, all of these things are technically targeted enforcement.
00:14:05.000It just depends on who you're targeting there.
00:14:07.000His, his message today was we're going to refocus on the heavy criminal element as our priority and we'll deal with the other guys later.
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00:17:13.000Was that a good call four years ago, five years ago?
00:18:28.000We did an hour with the same pages down in Georgia.
00:18:31.000I mean, you know, these folks have worked for five, six years to make sure we had got to yesterday, the criminal investigation by the FBI.
00:18:36.000Your thoughts, sir, on the 2020 election in the mainstream media meltdown this morning about, oh, this is all about stealing Trump, stealing 26 and 28.
00:18:50.000OK, like so they clearly have something that they took in there to get a judge to sign off on this warrant.
00:18:57.000And we'll see whatever comes of all of this.
00:19:00.000But my guess is there's a lot more to it than people realize.
00:19:04.000If the FBI director and the director of national intelligence, apparently director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, is down there, right?
00:19:12.000If these people were personally intricately involved, which appears to be the case on this, there's probably a lot more to it than we know.
00:19:20.000And from covering stories like this with law enforcement matters, federal Justice Department things, raids, the FBI investigations, it oftentimes takes a lot longer than those of us who in the media industry and also the broader general public would like to get clarity and answers.
00:19:41.000I've covered stories that take 10 years to unravel, right?
00:19:45.000Like, for instance, I broke the story before I even worked at Breitbart back when I worked at the Daily Call.
00:19:50.000It was one of the last stories I did there back in 2012 about Senator Bob Menendez and corruption and whatnot.
00:19:57.000And he didn't go down until like a decade later or longer, right?
00:20:02.000Like, so it's like these things take time for these to develop and to flesh out and for evidence to emerge and for the feds to take steps in the right direction.
00:20:12.000So I think that there's a lot more than we know about all of this.
00:20:18.000I would imagine that they are figuring out even more things about it all.
00:20:25.000And then in addition to that, I would just say more broadly, too, I know I believe me, I get the frustration out there that people want to say there haven't been wide scale arrests, right?
00:20:36.000Like of the people who did the Russia collusion hoax or people who did weaponization of government during Biden or Obama or things like that.
00:20:47.000But again, the good guys are in charge right now, right?
00:20:51.000Like, so, you know, you've got Bondi and Patel and, you know, Ratcliffe and these folks and Tulsi Gabbard leading the federal government.
00:20:59.000And obviously, President Trump is the president.
00:21:02.000So I would say keep the faith a little bit longer.
00:21:07.000I had a huge story that I did over the weekend, you know, while we were all snowed in here in the nation's capital in Washington, D.C., working with the CIA.
00:21:16.000And I spoke to the CIA director and there's he's very careful with what he says about things.
00:21:20.000But one of the things that we talked about was about the weaponization and the Russia collusion hoax and everything.
00:21:27.000And this has been a huge focus of Director Ratcliffe's even dating back to when he was DNI in Tulsi's job back in Trump's first term in, you know, 2019, 2020.
00:21:41.000And he said he said something a little bit cryptic in there about how he doesn't want to speculate or peruse whatever the Justice Department may or may not be doing.
00:21:51.000But everybody needs to be held accountable.
00:21:53.000I don't think a guy like Ratcliffe says a thing like that unless he knows a lot more about what may or may not be coming.
00:22:00.000Then. So, again, I just I kind of have a feeling there's a lot more in the works than people realize.
00:22:07.000So, again, while I get the frustration that's out there in the Republican base and the Trump base, the MAGA base.
00:22:14.000And I want to see as much more action as everybody.
00:22:17.000I also think that the good guys are trying here.
00:22:26.000OK, talking about good stuff, talking about good stuff is the president's focused on, obviously, what's happening in Georgia with the FBI raid in Minneapolis and many more places right around the country where it's actually going much better.
00:22:38.000Because you don't have, as you called this militia in the streets and paid for by, as Peter Schweitzer said, the great to Breitbart editor, the invisible coup, which is number one New York Times bestseller folks.
00:22:50.000Yeah, make sure you get it. We've got to make it number one for the second week in a row militia.
00:22:55.000We keep saying the problems of the country are not in Tehran.
00:22:58.000And we got to focus on things that, you know, we got all kind of things we have to get done that must get done.
00:23:05.000And then there's other things you can kind of think about what you guys did at Breitbart is quite brilliant.
00:23:10.000You got one of the best polling organizations said, hey, let's put a poll of this about what's the real support.
00:23:14.000And then we'll ask a couple other questions.
00:23:16.000I keep saying when they see these polls that they support this way, you might support it on day one.
00:23:21.000But like in Iraq, do you support it on year four?
00:23:37.000JL Partners, which is one of the best pollsters out there, they actually nailed the 2024 election and got it right that Trump was going to win the national popular vote.
00:23:45.000They did the poll and they gave it to us exclusively ahead of releasing it publicly.
00:23:50.000And what the biggest is, is that yes, Americans don't like the regime in Iran.
00:23:54.000And I'm going to, in case you cut back to me, I'm going to be looking down at my phone to read you the exact numbers so that way people understand this.
00:24:01.000So yes, Americans don't like the Iranian regime and would love to see America topple the Iranian regime.
00:24:07.000However, when they asked the follow up question, how many American lives are you willing to risk to do, to remove the Iranian regime, that the majority of those who support both among the broader American public and among specifically Republican voters risking even one American life drops significantly.
00:24:30.000So again, the numbers here show that 36% of broader Americans supposedly support U.S. toppling the Iranian regime, 18% strongly and 18% somewhat, 21% oppose.
00:24:48.000And then among Republicans specifically, the support for toppling the regime in Iran from the United States goes higher, it's 60%.
00:24:57.000But in both cases, among those who support toppling the regime in Iran, they're asked, how many American lives are you willing to risk in so doing?
00:25:14.000They're not willing to risk a single American life.
00:25:17.000What that means when you really drill down on this, because if you're going to topple the regime in Iran, you're probably going to cost American lives, right?
00:25:26.000And then once you start getting higher and higher in the numbers, then some people are willing to go up to 10 American lives or up to 100 or up to 1,000 or whatever.
00:25:34.000You know, it's very, very few that are willing to go higher than that.
00:25:38.000But when you really get into it, the real numbers are among the broader American public, around only 14% that support America toppling the regime in Iran.
00:25:49.000And among Republicans, it's not really 60%, but it's down around 21%, right?
00:25:54.000So this is a total drop-off in the numbers when you actually count the loss of American life, which would probably be likely if this happens.
00:26:06.000I think Americans love what happened with Maduro, right, where it didn't cost a single American life.
00:26:12.000It looks like the new leader there is an American puppet and doing whatever Rubio and then want her to do.
00:26:19.000If they could do something like that in Iran, I think that we would be open to that.
00:26:23.000But the question is, is that optionality going to be presented to the president?
00:26:27.000We had an expeditionary strike to end the 12-day war because the Israelis couldn't finish what they started.
00:26:35.000And, of course, we now know it was all lies because the Times of Israel published the cabinet minutes that said it was two years before they really had any nuclear program worthwhile.
00:26:44.000That being what it said, President Trump totally obliterated.
00:26:49.000The United States Navy did as much as the B-2s with the cruise missiles technology from the late 1970s with fast attack submarines firing from the North Arabian Sea.
00:26:59.000President Trump rolled the iron dice of war again, and we were very fortunate.
00:27:05.000And remember, the Chinook pilot, as Prince said, could have lost 30 special forces, but it came out.
00:27:09.000But the American people don't support in Tehran because if you don't support the loss of American lives, then you don't support it because it's going to get gnarly.
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00:31:10.000But in these moments of enormous difficulty, we find strength in our Minnesota values of hard work, freedom, and simple decency and goodwill.
00:31:20.000These times call for leaders who can stand up and not be rubber stamps of this administration.
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00:32:30.000Well, you know what she failed to mention is commercial there.
00:32:34.000Minnesota being the Trojan horse for Sharia law.
00:32:37.000We've had a battle battle over the last 10 years.
00:32:41.000Fraud in our elections with Minnesota leading the way for the nation in our, in fraud and 18 billion minimum stole from Minnesota from our, from all of us taxpayers.
00:32:54.000And, and, and Amy at one time, you know, she's flipped on so many things, including the, the elections when she wanted to go to get rid of the machines, go to paper ballots in the movie kill chain in 2018.
00:33:11.000She not all of a sudden, she never responds about our elections, which is pouring out.
00:33:15.000Now, everybody, isn't it great that with Georgia and everything pouring out, we were right all along because there's only one truth.
00:33:22.000Everybody remember that there's only one truth.
00:33:25.000And, uh, Amy's going to have to answer to all this and all this would happen on her watch.
00:33:30.000Let's not forget just cause you trade the players and you, you move Walt's over here and Keith Ellison over here and, and Elon Omar, Amy, you were here too.
00:33:39.000You watched it all happen and you did nothing.
00:33:46.000And, uh, I do know her weaknesses, but I also know our strengths and, uh, and we are going to have the biggest campaign advertising campaign this country's ever seen.
00:33:57.000And I have, uh, um, as everybody knows, I was part of our great president's campaign.
00:34:02.000And, and there's a lot of things we, that we did then that we're going to do here in Minnesota to, to, to, to beat, uh, Amy Klobuchar.
00:36:32.000You had, you put your shoulder to where you did it.
00:36:34.000But Peter on the next couple of days, he's going to be on Saturday interviewed by Jan, uh, Jekalak from, uh, American thought leaders, Epoch times, all of it.
00:36:44.000The next number one bestseller we're going to have is, uh, Killed to Order.
00:36:48.000Jan, you've been working on this for how long?
00:36:51.000This is about the, uh, this is about that horrible, horrible practice of the Chinese Communist Party of organ harvesting from live individuals, sir.
00:37:00.000You know, 20 years ago was when I first realized that there's this industrial scale murder for organs industry in China.
00:37:12.000I mean, and this, we're not talking about this garden variety, you know, black market organ trade, which actually happens horribly around the world.
00:37:29.000You need to be able to push a whole lot of propaganda into the system so that you can dehumanize a group of people.
00:37:35.000So people look at those, that group of people that you're targeting a little bit lower, right?
00:37:39.000A little, not, not quite human perhaps.
00:37:41.000Then you need to be able to incarcerate them.
00:37:43.000You need to have massive state security apparatus.
00:37:45.000And then when those people are now incarcerated, you can blood type them, tissue type them, and organ scan them.
00:37:52.000And now when someone say in America is looking at an ad, it says two weeks, I can get you a new heart.
00:37:59.000It'll cost you 200 grand, let's say, but you can get it because that person on the other end is incarcerated.
00:38:05.000It's a prisoner of conscience, most typically a Falun Gong practitioner, but also Uyghurs were later added when the world decided to do nothing.
00:39:34.000And one of the reasons was we've taken a lot of bad people and gotten them out of our country.
00:39:39.000In some cases, they're so bad that we put them in prison because we don't want them to even take a chance of coming back in, even though our border is very secure.
00:44:22.000And most importantly, if you think about it, after four years in which Biden got much less than $1 trillion of investment into our country,
00:44:31.000in just — actually, it was taken over 11 months, even though we're 12 months.
00:44:38.000In 11 months, we've taken in more than $18 trillion.
00:44:43.000So they did less than $1 trillion, Scott, in a period of four years.
00:44:50.000And we've done $18 trillion in less than one year.
00:44:54.000So there's never been anything like that.
00:44:56.000No other country has done those numbers, by the way, in history.
00:44:59.000Ten years ago, one country did $3 million — $3 trillion.
00:55:54.000You know, I read the papers, and I'm reading one of the stories about the insurance companies — how much money they're making — where they received, you know, billions and billions of dollars for this stuff from the United States of America.
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