Bannon's War Room - Episode 5114： The Last Stand Is In Texas; Passing The SAVE Act

00:00:00.000 The day after the search of the Fulton County Elections Facility, Tulsi Gabbard facilitated

00:00:05.140 a call between the president and the FBI team working on the investigation. That's according

00:00:10.120 to three people with knowledge of that meeting. The Times writes this, the president addressed

00:00:14.940 the agents on speakerphone, asking them questions as well as praising and thanking them for their

00:00:19.800 work on the inquiry. In a letter to lawmakers who were pressing for more details, Gabbard denied

00:00:25.280 that Trump asked questions or issued directives during the call. The paper also pointed to

00:00:30.620 the unprecedented nature of the meeting. Rather than going to senior department or FBI officials,

00:00:36.240 Trump spoke directly to the frontline agents doing the granular work of a politically sensitive

00:00:41.500 investigation in which he has a large personal stake. A White House spokesperson defended the

00:00:47.340 president's Georgia investigation on the whole, saying he has pledged to secure America's

00:00:52.880 elections. Those 2020 elections were secure, of course, but the Justice Department, the FBI

00:00:57.640 have declined to comment. Well, and it's worth remembering that at least in a couple of these

00:01:02.740 battleground states, the votes were run by Republicans. Georgia was a Republican-run state.

00:01:08.300 Arizona was a Republican-run state. And the Republican governors and secretaries of state of those

00:01:13.520 states said, yeah, you lost. And it didn't seem to stop him then. So the idea that if Republicans run

00:01:19.960 the elections somehow there won't be, you know, fraud in his mind is belied by the fact that

00:01:27.700 Republicans didn't have fraud and did run the elections, and he lost. And look, it's really,

00:01:32.020 it's an important thing what he said yesterday, because he told my colleagues in the New York

00:01:35.900 Times in a recent interview that he regretted not ordering the National Guard to seize voting machines

00:01:40.600 in 2020 in states that he lost. This is a proposal brought to him in the Oval Office by Mike Flynn,

00:01:46.540 his former national security advisor, and some others, saying he should effectively declare

00:01:51.160 martial law in some of these states that he lost, seize the voting machines, and rerun the elections

00:01:56.900 until he won, basically. And that's, you know, the fact that he says he now regrets that indicates

00:02:02.060 where his head is at heading into these midterms.

00:02:04.740 I'm actually less concerned with the FBI's role in that than I am with ICE. We've seen what the FBI

00:02:11.080 can do right now. They can, after the fact, open an investigation. I have no idea what their

00:02:20.060 predication is for doing this, but they can muck things up after the fact. They're an investigative

00:02:25.380 agency. They don't really respond. ICE is now the largest funded law enforcement agency in the history

00:02:32.620 of the world. There is a game plan that draws upon a very horrible period of our nation's history. I'm thinking

00:02:43.520 of the Jim Crow era, in which law enforcement was used to discourage people from going to the polls. Can anyone

00:02:51.100 look at what's happening in Minnesota and tell me that that is not a very real possibility for November?

00:02:57.480 Before January 6th, there was a massive failure of imagination, I think, singling out a couple of

00:03:04.700 pieces. I didn't see people predicting storming the Capitol. So there was a lot of failure of

00:03:09.860 imagination that was widespread across the political class before January 6th. That is something that

00:03:15.640 had not happened before. Now it's happened. It has happened. And so when that phrase, Trump being Trump,

00:03:22.380 which used to mean, oh, all bluster, no action, I think it means something else now. If someone's

00:03:27.460 says, oh, that's just being Trump being Trump, I say, yeah, absolutely. It is Trump being Trump

00:03:34.740 and Trump being Trump as he tries to steal elections. And he talks about it right in front

00:03:39.880 of our faces. It's there's nothing hidden about it. And so, yeah, that phrase Trump being Trump

00:03:45.500 doesn't mean what it used to mean. This is not a drill in it. You write in part, quote, a president

00:03:52.100 who doesn't care about the law, who commands an obedient Congress and is supported by a radicalized

00:03:58.940 base of tens of millions of people who believe his lies represents a threat to the next election.

00:04:06.960 I fear that millions of citizens are still too complacent. They aren't aware of the peril we face.

00:04:14.800 So consider this to be something like a fire drill. It's an alarm, one of thousands that should be

00:04:22.560 ringing across the country. MAGA's acts of aggression are already intimidating. Trump isn't just trying to

00:04:30.220 stop the steal again. Another kind of theft might be already underway. Stupid lie that the 2020 elections

00:04:39.420 were stolen. Sixty three federal judges threw out. Sixty three of Donald Trump's stupid claims that the 1.00

00:04:50.140 2020 election was stolen, including the Supreme Court, including Thomas and Alito. All of them threw it 1.00

00:04:59.580 out, said it was stupid. You had Donald Trump's own administration and the person in charge of 1.00

00:05:07.400 elections saying it was the safest. It was the the fairest, cleanest election in the history of our

00:05:15.820 constitutional republic. So these aren't even good lies. These aren't even like like doesn't even make

00:05:22.200 us do any work. It's right in front of our faces. And now he's basically saying you got Pam Bondy in

00:05:29.940 Minnesota saying, yeah, we'll stop terrorizing your state if you turn over all your voting files.

00:05:33.900 That's in Minnesota. And now in Georgia, Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard is now in charge of seizing

00:05:42.760 voters files in Georgia. That is so unconstitutional. States run elections, not presidents who are scared

00:05:54.180 their party's going to lose. And it's not an overstatement at all to say that this looks like

00:06:00.620 what autocratic regimes do. This looks like what Orban does. This looks like what Putin does. This looks like

00:06:07.840 what all the worst of the worst across the world do. And right now it's happening again in Georgia.

00:06:17.480 Yeah, Joe, one of the things about this that's so frustrating is even after January 6th, even after everything

00:06:24.740 we went through at the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, I think there are still people

00:06:29.800 who say, no, this is all bluster. This is all talk. This is what he does. Yeah, he what he does is he

00:06:37.280 directly describes what he's going to do about elections. What he does is he directly says what's

00:06:43.320 on his mind about elections. And I don't know why people aren't believing him. I don't know why there

00:06:49.180 isn't more of an outcry here because it's being forecast. It's being broadcast to us all of the

00:06:56.460 intentions right in front of our faces. And so, you know, one of the things that we have to do in

00:07:02.560 response is not just do what we're doing now, amplify and talk about what the real alarm is, but

00:07:08.000 also start to think of concrete things, concrete policies that can be enacted or at least proposed

00:07:14.660 to bring awareness to this and hopefully roll back some of these efforts. But make no mistake,

00:07:20.160 the intentions are very clear and right in front of our faces.

00:07:26.820 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:07:35.220 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly

00:07:42.300 full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world

00:07:45.860 to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that

00:07:49.540 go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a

00:07:57.580 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:08:05.360 this country will be saved.

00:08:08.920 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:08:17.260 It's Tuesday, 3 February, Year of Our Lord, 2026. Thank you for joining into the War Room. I want to

00:08:24.140 thank the team in Denver, the Real America's Voice team, and of course, our own team here at the War Room.

00:08:29.400 That was that magnificent cold open. It kind of lays the framework for what we're going to talk today.

00:08:33.100 Caroline Wren is riding shotgun. Dave Bratt is riding shotgun. Ben Harnwell is going to join us.

00:08:38.080 Chip Rory, as soon as we get Chip up. Let me add, Caroline, I'm going to toss out to you and Dave.

00:08:43.840 Obviously, they're totally panicked that now we're getting to the receipts of how the 2020

00:08:49.840 election was stolen. Tulsi Gabbard, I might say the heroic Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard has been right

00:08:56.600 100% of the time on all the intel. She's given President Trump amazing intel of all these different

00:09:02.940 conflicts he's trying to resolve, and that's why they've tried to, Caroline, as you know

00:09:08.540 very well, they've tried to turf her out of her job. It's been brutal on that. President Trump,

00:09:14.100 trust her enough that she is overseeing this kind of look into the 2020 election because there are

00:09:19.600 national security, obviously, and intelligence issues with this. This is the greatest crime in

00:09:26.860 the history of the country. They stole the 2020 election, as we have said here from the afternoon,

00:09:33.520 I think it was four or five days after the 2020 election, when the Associated Press called it for

00:09:37.640 Joe Biden. We said Joe Biden's illegitimate, it's an illegitimate regime, all of it, and we stand by

00:09:43.880 that, and now we're going to get to the receipts, and so they are absolutely freaking out. There are a

00:09:48.940 couple of bills up. Save Act is one, the Make America, Make Elections Great Again. They call for a

00:09:54.200 couple of basic things, and Brad, I want you to jump in here, too. Here's what they call for.

00:09:58.940 You have to have a vote. You have to show an ID to vote, right, a legitimate, you know, driver's

00:10:03.880 license or passport. You have to show a legitimate ID to vote. We have to purge all the voter rolls for

00:10:09.280 people who are not eligible to vote in those districts or counties or states, right, and then

00:10:15.120 we have to take, we have to do a real job on mail-in ballots like voter, like signature verification

00:10:22.360 where we're supposed to be on the books, but of course they took them off the books and looked

00:10:25.860 the other way in Pennsylvania. That's how they stole that. These are a couple of basic things,

00:10:31.140 and the Democrats are saying this is the greatest voter suppression movement in history. Here's the

00:10:36.600 reason. Minnesota shows you this. New York City shows you this. If they don't have illegal aliens 0.99

00:10:41.600 voting, if they don't have these phony migrants that are here on these phony programs that are at the 0.99

00:10:48.500 polls, and you're damn right, we're going to have ICE surround the polls come November. We're not

00:10:54.140 going to sit here and allow you to steal the country again, and you can whine and cry and throw 0.99

00:10:59.280 your toys out of the pram all you want, but we will never again allow an election to be stolen,

00:11:06.040 and that's why I'm so proud of what President Trump is doing and people are doing. Caroline Wren,

00:11:09.560 your thoughts on that before I go to Brett.

00:11:11.020 I think what you said about ICE is very much related to this because, in fact, Senator Mark

00:11:15.760 Warren said in an interview, he said, we don't want ICE agents showing up at the polling stations.

00:11:20.740 That's what this is all about. That's why they're trying to defund ICE. That's why they're trying to

00:11:24.440 go after and target ICE and shut it down. Why would you care if ICE shows up to polling stations?

00:11:29.440 Because illegal aliens are not allowed to vote in this country, except for the problem is they do, 1.00

00:11:34.220 and they do in these, they're not blue states. I was going to say blue states. Minnesota is a deeply

00:11:38.720 red state that is held hostage by illegals voting, and it is the minorities have taken over there, 0.99

00:11:46.720 and by minorities, I mean the minority party, the Democratic party there, and that is due to

00:11:51.220 allowing illegals to vote, and so that is what this outrage by the left is against ICE. They're

00:11:56.420 desperately trying to shut down the DHS funding bill. They don't want ICE funded because they don't

00:12:00.580 want ICE at the polling stations to stop illegals from voting. The ask here on the Save Act and Make 0.70

00:12:06.520 America Make Elections Great Again Act are pretty basic. A legitimate ID to show who you are to vote.

00:12:12.660 It is to clean up the voter rolls. We've had Tom Fenton on here. There are millions. There are tens of

00:12:17.040 millions, particularly in places like Georgia, but all over the nation. There are tens of millions of

00:12:22.920 people on voter rolls that should not be. They have to be cleaned up, and the blue states are the ones

00:12:27.140 that are fighting the Justice Department. And then the last is you've got to go back to the basic law.

00:12:31.920 If you're going to have mail-in ballots, you have to have signature verification. You have to have

00:12:35.460 the double envelope. You have to have everything so we can't have a 2020. And the Democrats don't

00:12:40.280 want to play at that because they know how to steal elections. Let's just, let's put you on notice

00:12:43.960 again. ICE is going to be around the polls in the 2026 midterm elections because we are never again

00:12:52.900 going to allow your business model, because I only think, I think Jesse Kelly's right. 20% of the country

00:12:58.860 probably votes for Democrats. No, the credential class. And of course, the abject poor that they

00:13:05.040 keep on these social welfare programs and never let them off. And that's the Democratic Party base

00:13:10.180 with a handful of oligarchs, the super wealthy. That's who controls the Democratic Party. The way 0.51

00:13:16.300 that they continue to win elections is they cheat. If they don't cheat, they can't win. And now they're

00:13:21.720 sitting there saying President Trump is a fascist. These are very basic things. And they're not, 0.91

00:13:27.000 we're going to find out today, Chip Roy's going to come on as, as hard as Anna Polina Luna people

00:13:32.320 have been working. I'm not so sure the SAVE Act even comes to a vote. I'm not very hopeful that

00:13:38.040 it will, which is why I think some of this doesn't have to be done through executive action. You were

00:13:41.300 the president talking about nationalizing some of the elections. Well, look, I mean, states do run

00:13:45.220 elections, but you were running them contrary to federal law, which says that you cannot vote if you

00:13:50.200 are an illegal alien in this country. And so they are allowing illegal aliens to vote. And so Donald Trump

00:13:56.080 is not going to let that happen. He's going to step in. The federal government's going to have to step

00:13:59.440 in and stop that from happening. And so I hope that, you know, what's important about Anna Polina Luna's

00:14:04.320 bill and the SAVE Act is I do, I want that to come to a vote, especially in the Senate, because

00:14:08.640 we need to see the people that are willing to put on paper, vote no, basically saying that I support

00:14:13.920 illegal aliens voting in the United States. If we're not going to get rid of the filibuster,

00:14:18.060 and obviously students are not going to do that, we need the standing filibuster. They want to

00:14:21.240 filibuster this. They got to stand up there for 30, 40, 50, 60 hours, and let's see it go. Okay,

00:14:26.280 we're going to take a short commercial break. Chip Roy is going to join us. We're going to,

00:14:29.800 there's Sharia Caucus in the House and the Senate. A combination meets today. Tommy Tuberville,

00:14:36.680 Keith Self, Chip Roy, and others. Chip's going to be on here. I think it's two o'clock. We're going to

00:14:41.480 cover it live on War Room and Real America's Voice. The caucus will be today. Short commercial break.

00:14:48.040 Dave Brack, Caroline Wren, Ben Harnwell is going to join us back in a moment.

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00:16:37.780 Chip, tell us about the Save Act. You know, we had a cold open. I don't know if you caught all of it,

00:16:41.980 but it's the mainstream media and the left melting down because President Trump's got Tulsi Gabbard

00:16:47.320 looking at the results of the stolen election in Georgia in 2020. We're going to get to the bottom

00:16:52.160 of all that. Plus, he said yesterday, I think it was on Dan Bongino's show, he said, he answered the

00:16:57.980 question, said, hey, we're going to, I may have to nationalize these elections. Now, he wasn't using the

00:17:02.900 common vernacular we use politically to say, hey, we're going to get a small set of issues

00:17:06.860 and run a national campaign for the House, which we may end up doing. I think that'll probably be it.

00:17:11.820 But he met in the fact that if these blue, if these red states with blue cities like Minnesota

00:17:17.560 and other places with these sanctuary cities continue to thwart ICE and the federal government

00:17:23.460 from getting in and removing these criminal illegal aliens and doing mass deportations, 0.60

00:17:28.080 we're not prepared to allow another election to be stolen by the Democrats, particularly when

00:17:34.660 they're thwarting the SAVE Act. And what you guys are trying to lay out is, we told the audience,

00:17:38.860 pretty basic. Voter ID, right? Number one, a voter ID, purge the roles of anybody that's not eligible 0.99

00:17:45.760 to vote, and then get some rules in there on mail-in ballots, like signature verifications,

00:17:50.920 double office, the basics on mail-in ballots so they can't steal it like they did again in 22 or in

00:17:56.120 2020. Can you walk us through where you guys actually stand with the SAVE Act? Are we going

00:18:00.600 to get a vote in the Senate on this? Are we actually going to make this law?

00:18:05.780 Thanks, Steve. All right. Well, first of all, remember, let's rewind the clock for a minute,

00:18:08.660 just so everybody can understand the score. Number one, we drafted the SAVE Act in the spring of 2024

00:18:15.260 because we were concerned about the election of 2024, right, and that it would impede the election

00:18:20.620 of President Trump. I worked with Cleta Mitchell, like you mentioned Georgia, right? Cleta's been in the

00:18:24.880 center of this fight in Georgia from literally the day after the election in 2020. I flew to Georgia,

00:18:30.360 met with Cleta there. Cleta and I worked to draft this bill along with Stephen Miller when he was,

00:18:35.800 of course, on the outside before the administration, and we got that drafted, we got it introduced,

00:18:40.460 we got it passed, and then the Senate did, in fact, call it up, but they blocked it, right? The

00:18:45.440 Democrats blocked it. Schumer did. Now, fast forward. That bill, the SAVE Act, was centered on

00:18:51.560 citizenship, right? It was centered on purging the roles, as you point out, of non-citizens, 0.99

00:18:56.180 ensuring that you have to demonstrate your citizenship to register to vote. Straightforward

00:19:00.260 bill. We purposely left voter IDs separately because we were trying to have very discreet

00:19:05.440 bullet issues. We decided now, we had the SAVE Act this Congress, Mike Lee has in the Senate,

00:19:11.220 I have it in the House. We added, because President Trump agreed with us, we thought it was a good

00:19:15.940 thing. He wanted to do it, branded as the SAVE America Act. We added voter ID into that. So we

00:19:21.720 have the SAVE Act already passed. It's over in the Senate. We now have the SAVE America Act

00:19:26.340 introduced in both the House and the Senate, that is SAVE, that is citizenship, and voter ID,

00:19:31.720 a federal voter ID requirement. So we have that introduced in both chambers. We'd like to see that

00:19:37.200 move in the Senate. Pause for a second. There is another bill, as you point out, the Make Elections

00:19:41.920 Great Again bill that has other features that we've also been working on. That was introduced

00:19:47.060 by the Administrative Committee Chairman Brian Stile, or he might have ran it through the

00:19:51.740 committee. It might have been Mary Miller's bill, but it's a good bill. That bill has other things

00:19:56.000 in it, like you point out, about mail-in ballots and all the things we've got to address beyond just

00:20:00.400 citizenship and voter ID. Where does it stand? I would have liked to have demanded as a part of the

00:20:06.020 appropriations bills moving this week, that we at least move the SAVE America Act and send it over

00:20:14.260 to the Senate and put it on their desk and say, we've already passed it out of the House. We have

00:20:18.420 not negotiated that to this point. Obviously, the president wants to avoid a shutdown. We're working

00:20:22.720 with the White House. But I want to see those move. Ana was obviously down at the White House

00:20:27.180 yesterday. We've gotten general commitments out of the White House, the Senate. They want to move

00:20:31.160 this. But here's the sticking point. Leader Thune, he's got to have 51 Republicans sitting

00:20:38.880 on the floor of the Senate to carry out what you described, what I would describe as a talking

00:20:43.960 filibuster. That is, you can't just force it to be 60 votes. If you have 51 senators on the floor of

00:20:50.060 the Senate, you can call the question. Democrats, so long as they speak, can stop calling the question,

00:20:55.660 but they have to be speaking. We need the leader Thune to force that. We believe we should have

00:21:01.920 an upfront, central debate. We ought to be all cameras on. Remember the Speaker's fight? Everybody

00:21:07.280 in America was watching what was happening when we were on the floor of the House. We need that now

00:21:11.300 for the Senate. We stand for citizenship. We stand for voter ID. Democrats are standing to block it.

00:21:17.380 We think we should force that question, and that's what we're trying to negotiate this week.

00:21:21.240 How are you going to be able to negotiate that? Get the audience up to speed when you've got,

00:21:26.240 the president's pretty adamant he doesn't want a government shutdown. And his rationale is that,

00:21:30.600 hey, it took a point or two away from growth last year. The Democrats are going to use it against us

00:21:35.540 as a weapon to try to shatter his economic plan, which President Trump is a strong believer. He

00:21:40.680 could get to four, four and a half, five percent growth. And so Schumer right here, Schumer actually

00:21:46.240 looks like he's got some leverage in this. This is what's going to happen with ICE. Yesterday,

00:21:50.040 we did blink on body cameras and took it off the table and said, in Minnesota, people are going to

00:21:54.340 have body cameras. So how are you going to get these all important, you know, cleaning up the

00:21:59.440 elections and make sure they can't steal them anymore or codifying that, right, off all these

00:22:04.000 executive orders? At the same time, we're kind of in hang fire on this whole government shutdown.

00:22:09.000 As you know, Wren, Bannon, Bratt, the Warren Posse, everybody, shut the government down,

00:22:14.500 right? We could care less, sir. Well, you know where I would be on my own decision making. I would

00:22:22.440 be in the camp of where you guys are. I am working with the White House and working with the team to

00:22:27.680 figure out what's best. The president wants to keep everything rolling and I want to support the

00:22:31.500 president. But at the end of the day, we've been pushing hard over the last 48 hours to demonstrate

00:22:37.400 to Speaker Johnson and the leader Thune that we're serious about this and we must get this vote.

00:22:42.540 The Save Act's over there. We want the Save America Act over there. We want to force the

00:22:46.840 question. I think the question here isn't about leverage, though. The question here is how to

00:22:51.900 muster 51 votes in the Senate. That's the ultimate question. It actually isn't 60, Steve. And I think

00:22:57.980 this is something everybody needs to understand. The filibuster is a problem and we need to force that

00:23:03.280 because it would put pressure on senators. We need to force the talking filibuster. But we need 51

00:23:09.200 Republicans to stand behind something. So this is where Scott's great work in going around and

00:23:15.300 pushing hard to try to get every senator to co-sponsor the Save Act. We're now at a number

00:23:20.300 where we're at 50. We need to get that up. McConnell's opposing it, of course. But we need to get that so we

00:23:25.680 have 51 that are on record saying they support something because then there's no excuse not to force

00:23:31.760 the talking filibuster. It's the only way to break 60. Or you have to move it on a must-pass piece of

00:23:37.300 legislation. And the only thing we have left is going to be the DHS funding bill after this week's

00:23:42.060 bill, the FISA reauthorization, which you and I have problems with. We think you need to add a warrant

00:23:47.060 requirement to FISA. And then one or two other things and spending bill by September and by then

00:23:51.300 it's too late. So we've got to try to force the question right now.

00:23:54.040 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Let me add another number for the war room posse to chew on.

00:23:59.260 You got 60, which they have this kind of phony filibuster. You got 51 that could force them to do

00:24:04.700 a talking filibuster. But then you have 27. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thune can't get 51 to do this.

00:24:11.980 Don't we go to the president and say, hey, look, let's call a vote on his leadership. Don't we have

00:24:16.340 27 senators that would vote Thune out and get somebody into, I don't know if it's Eric Schmidt,

00:24:21.620 Holly, you pick it. Somebody that'd be the new leader of the Senate, that would get you the 51. 0.99

00:24:27.400 I mean, they keep saying we can't get the votes. That's what a leader's supposed to do. If Thune

00:24:31.340 cannot deliver this week on these basics about not allowing them to steal elections,

00:24:37.880 why is he not removed as a leader of the Senate, sir?

00:24:42.440 Well, I think that's a great question for Mike Lee and Rick Scott. My observation,

00:24:46.700 you know, and I was obviously a chief of staff to Ted Cruz in the Senate. I know the Senate pretty well.

00:24:50.460 The question is going to be is who can deliver 51? And I think right now, I will say this,

00:24:56.480 the president, without divulging private conversations, the president is very animated

00:25:00.660 and very concerned about getting the Senate to move on this. I think Leader Thune is feeling that.

00:25:07.400 I think we're at a critical juncture right now where if the posse is engaged, if the American people

00:25:11.980 are engaged and we put pressure on the Senate, that we will force this question. Now, my concern is

00:25:17.880 when I hear Thune say, we're going to have a vote on this soon, is it'll have a vote. He won't force

00:25:23.280 the question at 51. We will lose the vote and he'll say, well, I tried, right? And that's not good

00:25:28.880 enough. You've got to go down there with the full force of 51 senators and get it done. I think if that

00:25:34.580 does not happen, then I think that Leader Thune is going to have some questions to have to answer.

00:25:40.100 And I think there'll be some questions about the overall leadership. I think that Majority Leader

00:25:44.080 Thune wants to try to figure out how to get this done. At least Mike Lee thinks he believes that

00:25:48.340 after his conversations with him. So Mike's going to be in a better position to explain that. But

00:25:52.640 look, for everybody out there, we're as close as we've ever been, but we're going to run out of

00:25:56.660 time. If we don't pass these reforms in the next weeks, right, we're going to run out of time to

00:26:02.000 implement them and to ensure or at least, you know, improve the likelihood that we will not have

00:26:08.120 fraud by November. I mean, obviously I'd like to get all the reforms and get voter ID, save act,

00:26:13.700 citizenship, the mail-in ballot changes, limits to how long you can have early voting and the,

00:26:19.060 you know, online voting and make it towards paper ballots. These are all things everybody watching

00:26:23.600 this wants, everything I want. We're trying to get there. Again, we've got more momentum behind

00:26:28.720 save and save America, the citizenship of voter ID than we've ever had. So we've just got to keep the

00:26:32.880 pressure up. Chip, do we have the ability to hold you through the break for a couple of minutes? If

00:26:38.080 not, the anti-Sharia caucus is going to meet, I think today at two. It's a press conference. We're

00:26:43.420 going to cover it live on Real America's Voice. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, I can do that. I'll

00:26:47.500 hang by. Okay, fine. Just tee it up. What happens at two o'clock? I want to make sure our audience

00:26:52.920 is prepped for this. At two o'clock, you and Keith Self and Tuberville, what is it? Yeah, Keith Self and I

00:26:58.960 co-founded the Sharia Free America caucus in the House. Senator Tuberville is going to join us.

00:27:04.540 We're going to have a bunch of the Freedom Caucus, Scott Perry, Andy Biggs, Eli Crane, all of the

00:27:08.540 great Americans here. We're going to be standing up and talking about how we need to fight the 0.59

00:27:12.520 advance of the Islamification of this country. We're seeing it unfold in real time, not just 0.99

00:27:16.600 across America, but very much in Texas. You know this because you've been down there with war room

00:27:22.800 in Texas. Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex is ground zero. Houston as well. The Muslim Brotherhood wants to see 1.00

00:27:28.460 Texas flip. So Keith Self, obviously a Texan. He represents Collin County. He's dealing with that

00:27:33.400 epic city nonsense. We've got to expose this. I'm having a hearing next week, Steve. This is 1.00

00:27:39.360 important. I'm the chairman of the subcommittee of the Constitution and Judiciary. I'm holding a

00:27:43.260 hearing on Sharia law next week. I believe it's next week. It's next week or the following. I'll let

00:27:47.580 you all know. But I think it's next week on this topic. And we're going to keep our foot on the gas.

00:27:52.260 And so we'll have this press conference today, too, talking about what we're trying to do.

00:27:55.480 Can you hang on for one second? I just want to hold you through the break. Got a couple more

00:27:58.640 questions. And I want to make sure everybody's got your coordinates on this. Chip Roy. So we got to

00:28:04.120 force a vote here. Senator Thune, it's in your hands. I got to say, it's easier to get to 27 than

00:28:12.300 to 51. But you got to step up and show some leadership. Now it's make or break time. We got to get these

00:28:18.380 bills. We have to codify this to stop the Democrats with the illegal aliens stealing 1.00

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00:30:03.660 Chip Roy is with us. Chip, your number is 50 or 49. I think we're counting 48. We're a couple

00:30:09.600 short. Of course, McConnell, and I think Taylor's going to thwart everything the president's going

00:30:15.320 to try to do. So what is the real count, as close as you know? We have 48 online. Mike told me that he

00:30:20.820 thought we had 49 or 50, but I'm trying to run that to ground. I'll text you so you can update the

00:30:25.360 posse as soon as I get the updated number from Mike. But hold on. Here's what's going to blow

00:30:29.980 people's heads up. How can you be a Republican senator, and how can you have taken money from

00:30:35.260 this audience and have people knock on doors and canvas for you and all the hard work to make sure

00:30:39.860 they don't get a Democrat? And then on the most fundamental basic things, we've got to be

00:30:43.860 supplicants. We should have three or four Democrats in this. We should have 55 or 56 and be close to the

00:30:51.860 60. We're not. We're short of the 51. Well, how pathetic? How does that happen?

00:30:58.060 How does that happen? Well, in at least one case, right? So Mitch McConnell put out a letter last

00:31:03.180 week, this will surprise nobody in the posse, that basically laid out his concerns about basically

00:31:10.160 federalism, right? Well, the federal government shouldn't be stepped into what this is, the state

00:31:13.880 purview. This is old school thinking, right? Where we have this reflexive constitutional debate about

00:31:19.580 what we should be doing. There's very clear, very clear constitutional authority and frankly,

00:31:26.680 duty to ensure that our elections are being handled the right way, right? It's plain as day,

00:31:32.700 right there in the Constitution. And so we can manage our own elections. So we certainly can put

00:31:37.620 requirements. And by the way, we've drafted these to be focused on federal elections. So it's federal

00:31:41.880 voter ID. It's dealing with citizenship, which of course, in addition to our election authority,

00:31:47.260 we have citizenship authority. So you've got both forces under the Constitution where we're given

00:31:52.820 that authority. So I think there's two or three or four members that are trying to hide behind that.

00:31:56.520 The pressure is coming up. I think we're at 49. I'll double check. But we're going to have to keep

00:32:01.020 the pressure up to ensure where we are. Last, your Sharia-Free America Caucus is spread beyond Texas. 0.96

00:32:09.740 On Texas, this issue is on fire. And of course, on the 3 March primary, there's going to be

00:32:16.040 Proposition 10, which prohibits Sharia law in the state of Texas. You're also on the ballot. You're

00:32:21.620 leaving the House and running for AG. What would you tell folks in Texas? You know, we've shifted

00:32:26.060 the flag down here. We do War Room Texas from here. And I've never seen, I said, of all the things

00:32:31.300 we've launched, pandemic, impeachment, all of it, we've never had an explosive growth like we had in

00:32:37.540 War Room Texas because people down here are clearly now have permission structure to talk about

00:32:43.340 something they've wanted to talk about and take action on. What is your caucus? What is your

00:32:47.920 caucus going to do? Number one, is it spreading for more members than just Texas? And what can the

00:32:52.600 caucus do at the federal level to help the Texans? All right. Well, so first of all, in no particular

00:32:58.520 order, number one, we've got to be a voice. And that's what we've been doing. Going back two years

00:33:02.500 ago, I gave a speech on the House floor, which ignited some of this. Charlie Kirk and I, our last

00:33:07.160 conversation we had that was substantive was on this topic. This was last summer. We started laying out

00:33:12.820 some framework of things we should do. I introduced legislation, obviously, to take the tax benefits

00:33:17.900 away from care, to go after and prevent anybody that is adherent to Sharia law from being admitted

00:33:23.700 to the United States and frankly get removed if you're adherent to Sharia law. We've got the PAWS Act, 0.98

00:33:28.660 which pauses all immigration until we've sorted out the entirety of the numbers, including the Sharia

00:33:33.540 issue. What we're going to do is continue to expose and hold hearings and try to grow the numbers.

00:33:38.080 We've had an immediate good group that's formed around it. We don't want to have people join it to get

00:33:42.420 cover, but we do want to grow the numbers, right? So we're going to, as chairman of the subcommittee

00:33:46.940 on the Constitution, we'll hold that hearing next week. At the press conference today, we'll be talking

00:33:51.060 about a lot of these issues to expose them. We want to basically, our first step is make sure the American

00:33:56.260 people, and Texans in particular, aren't afraid to talk about this. We've been trained and beat over our head

00:34:02.060 to think that the First Amendment means that we have to turn over our sovereignty of our nation and walk away

00:34:07.600 from our Judeo-Christian values in the name of the First Amendment. That's not true. You've got people

00:34:12.680 here who want to Islamify our country. They're at war with our way of life. They want to undermine 0.98

00:34:17.020 Western civilization. They want Sharia law to apply, and all of those things will destroy our great 1.00

00:34:22.420 country and what we've done as Western civilization for the world. So we want that message to be loud

00:34:27.280 and clear, and we want to expose the 300 mosques growing in Texas, the Epic City, the Islamic Center in

00:34:33.200 Houston, the Islamic Center in Austin, the Islamic Center that's sitting there on West Campus of the

00:34:37.780 University of Texas, all of the things going on, like yesterday in Wiley, Texas, where they were handing out

00:34:42.840 hijabs before school, all in an effort to carry out their agenda. Those things need to be exposed, and then we lay 1.00

00:34:49.060 out all of the legal ways to stop them.

00:34:51.680 Chip, where do people get you on social media to find out everything you do in the house and also to your campaign site?

00:34:57.020 Thanks, Steve. Chip Roy TX on

00:35:00.280 X slash Twitter, Chip Roy TX,

00:35:02.920 and then Chip Roy dot com is my website.

00:35:04.820 I appreciate it. Heading back over

00:35:06.620 to the Judiciary Committee here in a second to work

00:35:08.680 on some more issues with the great

00:35:09.860 Chairman Jordan, and I appreciate you having me on.

00:35:13.440 Thank you, Chip. Appreciate you.

00:35:16.040 Brad, I'm going to come

00:35:16.760 to you in a second. Caroline, I think this is the frustration

00:35:18.980 with the war room posse. People work

00:35:20.840 like crazy. Here we are.

00:35:22.920 Now, these bills, it's a little bit jumbled,

00:35:24.500 but the bottom line is the President wants

00:35:27.120 this, the MAGA base wants

00:35:28.920 this, the Republicans want this,

00:35:31.020 and here we are

00:35:32.220 now in a fight about

00:35:34.920 the government and about DHS,

00:35:37.140 which they've got extreme, you know,

00:35:38.740 no mask,

00:35:40.140 body cameras, which we've given them already

00:35:42.820 without a negotiation, your federal

00:35:44.660 badge up there, all because, so they can

00:35:46.660 dox you. That's what they want. Also,

00:35:48.620 no indemnity for the ICE officers.

00:35:51.280 They want a federal warrant

00:35:52.640 to remove any, they want a signed

00:35:54.620 judicial warrant to remove

00:35:56.820 anybody from the United States.

00:35:58.260 President Trump said,

00:35:58.900 President Trump now, he said

00:36:00.660 yesterday, there are 20 to 25

00:36:02.680 million here on Biden's watch.

00:36:04.780 I'm at the official number, I think it's 12

00:36:06.520 to 15 million, but that's a grunch.

00:36:08.720 It's going to take forever.

00:36:10.740 You know, they've got, they want no more

00:36:12.200 walking patrols, right? And I find out

00:36:14.440 in an article last night that put up,

00:36:16.300 Bovino really fought that,

00:36:18.680 the whole DHS apparatus and

00:36:20.500 people at the White House, you know, saying, hey,

00:36:22.340 we just can't go into these jails because

00:36:24.460 they're not turning them over.

00:36:25.500 We need to have broader sweeps.

00:36:27.420 We need to look at mass deportations 0.59

00:36:29.020 to force these authorities

00:36:30.940 who refuse to work with us.

00:36:32.480 And in Minnesota, they're laughing in our face.

00:36:34.740 All that being said, we're jammed up

00:36:36.740 in a huge negotiation for that.

00:36:38.680 Now we've got these issues, which

00:36:40.380 we have to get sorted in a couple of weeks

00:36:42.560 to make sure that they can't steal

00:36:44.500 the elections. When Maryland

00:36:46.340 Senate last night votes overwhelmingly

00:36:48.840 to go 8-0 in congressional districts,

00:36:51.580 Spanberger, and Spanberger's running

00:36:53.820 the Commonwealth of Virginia

00:36:54.680 like a CIA operative, right?

00:36:56.120 She's well-trained.

00:36:57.180 She's smash-mouth. 1.00

00:36:58.380 She's already 10 to 1. 0.68

00:36:59.900 So mathematically, you're going to have

00:37:01.440 a tough time to even do it anyway.

00:37:03.200 But to stop the stealing elections,

00:37:04.960 we're at 47 or 48 votes.

00:37:06.680 You have to be a supplicant even to get 1.00

00:37:08.220 to the 51 to get the standing thing.

00:37:10.640 How can this happen?

00:37:11.640 And how corrupt is McConnell's Senate?

00:37:13.860 And why do we keep sending these people back?

00:37:16.440 Well, because Mitch McConnell

00:37:17.640 and people like him, they want small majorities.

00:37:20.000 That's how they maintain power.

00:37:21.260 They do not want what was probably

00:37:22.980 would have happened if Mitch McConnell

00:37:24.540 was not in charge of SLF at the time.

00:37:26.240 And if we had the SAVE Act actually passed,

00:37:28.240 we would have had Republican senators 0.98

00:37:31.740 in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin,

00:37:34.540 Minnesota, Michigan,

00:37:35.620 and they tanked all those races on purpose.

00:37:37.820 They want to have a 51-52 seat

00:37:39.860 because they can control that.

00:37:41.200 They can control the Rick Scots 1.00

00:37:42.540 and the Mike Lees when they say,

00:37:43.840 oh, no, sorry, Lisa Murkowski

00:37:45.620 and Susan Collins are not going to vote for this. 0.75

00:37:47.260 And so we can't even do it.

00:37:49.820 And that's what's happening right now.

00:37:50.980 You have Murkowski and Collins

00:37:52.280 who traditionally will go with

00:37:54.200 wherever leadership or McConnell tell them to.

00:37:56.180 And if we're able to give,

00:37:57.400 especially someone like Collins-

00:37:58.340 So when you see those people opposing it,

00:38:00.600 they've been told by leadership-

00:38:01.540 They've been told by, yes.

00:38:03.100 They don't break out on their own.

00:38:04.660 That's how that works.

00:38:05.520 That's a total scam.

00:38:06.320 But then you have a bigger problem

00:38:07.460 in that you have Tillis and Cassidy 1.00

00:38:08.980 just doing it to be jerks. 1.00

00:38:11.020 And they're doing it because they're pissed off 1.00

00:38:12.300 and killed Trump.

00:38:13.140 Cassidy in Louisiana,

00:38:14.460 you know, Trump endorsed against him.

00:38:16.200 Tillis is just on a, like,

00:38:18.000 jihad against Donald Trump and MAGA-ism

00:38:20.280 and will oppose anything that he does.

00:38:22.540 And so those are the ones there.

00:38:23.640 And I think you're probably better off

00:38:24.780 trying to pick up Fetterman,

00:38:26.240 who actually has been,

00:38:27.480 I think, more open to this idea

00:38:29.460 than anyone else.

00:38:30.300 But really-

00:38:30.900 Nobody wants to talk about it either.

00:38:32.280 Tillis is tanking Watley in North Carolina.

00:38:35.020 Oh, yeah.

00:38:35.240 Polling on Watley is like,

00:38:36.460 Watley's at 24, 26, 27, 28%.

00:38:39.800 Part of that is MAGA's not convinced he's MAGA,

00:38:42.620 but more importantly,

00:38:43.700 they're seeing Tillis every day

00:38:44.860 and they're going,

00:38:45.380 why should I do this if Tillis is sitting there?

00:38:47.640 What's the use of having anybody in the Senate

00:38:49.580 if Tillis is sitting there opposing everybody?

00:38:52.300 Let's go.

00:38:52.680 Dave Bratt, your thoughts about this, sir?

00:38:55.880 Yeah, well, just rewind.

00:38:58.060 I agree with everything Caroline's saying,

00:39:00.400 but just back to the basics,

00:39:02.180 this is the America first issue

00:39:04.980 of the highest order.

00:39:07.220 President Trump ran on it.

00:39:08.460 He's president because of it.

00:39:10.280 Rachel Bovard in the Wall Street Journal today

00:39:12.620 has a piece saying this is an 85% issue.

00:39:16.260 It can be transformative.

00:39:18.180 Caroline said, you know,

00:39:20.020 make the senators accountable.

00:39:22.700 Chip said, turn on the camera,

00:39:24.400 shine the lights,

00:39:25.200 show everybody what's going on.

00:39:27.880 I work with the Immigration Accountability Project.

00:39:31.360 Everybody go to IAPaction.com

00:39:34.360 and maybe spend some money there

00:39:36.680 instead of on the candidates

00:39:37.740 who have let you down for the past decade

00:39:39.740 and ruined our country.

00:39:41.720 The real problem,

00:39:42.840 Rachel gave us one set of numbers,

00:39:44.760 85% of the American people want this.

00:39:47.600 So why is it happening?

00:39:48.900 And you all know the answer.

00:39:50.660 It's because 85% of businesses do want it.

00:39:53.580 I want to be very specific.

00:39:55.000 She's in the Wall Street Journal.

00:39:56.380 As you know,

00:39:56.940 Paul Gijo is no friend of Trump or MAGA, right?

00:40:00.580 Those guys hate it.

00:40:01.400 Yeah.

00:40:01.540 As we talked yesterday

00:40:02.240 about the Wall Street Journal overall.

00:40:03.820 Go back.

00:40:04.280 When Bovard says 85% of the people support this,

00:40:07.860 specifically talk about these provisions

00:40:09.920 that the American people say,

00:40:11.540 yeah, we definitely should have that.

00:40:12.720 Walk us through it.

00:40:13.380 Because her piece,

00:40:14.620 and I want to thank Gijo

00:40:15.760 for allowing it to be in the Wall Street Journal

00:40:17.720 because it's getting a broad reading.

00:40:19.060 But it's quite powerful.

00:40:21.400 As you know, Rachel Brovard is a fire breather.

00:40:24.100 What does she have to say, Dave?

00:40:26.840 Well, Rachel goes through the points 1.00

00:40:29.400 one by one by one.

00:40:30.660 But overall, she's making the point

00:40:32.960 that this will crack the ice

00:40:35.200 and give the rest of the Trump agenda

00:40:38.440 breathing life again

00:40:40.680 into the power of the people

00:40:44.000 and the conservative impulse in this country.

00:40:48.620 Right now, everyone is very frustrated

00:40:50.920 for everything you're saying.

00:40:52.600 But the other point that she's raising,

00:40:54.840 these are just common sense principles,

00:40:56.640 which we've covered.

00:40:58.060 Illegal immigrants can't vote 1.00

00:41:00.480 and on down the line.

00:41:02.060 But the other piece of evidence

00:41:03.740 that's important to bring up

00:41:04.720 is Senator Mike Lee,

00:41:06.940 a probable Supreme Court justice in the future,

00:41:11.000 is about the safest pair of hands you've ever seen.

00:41:13.260 So if Senator Mike Lee is on board

00:41:15.720 with this legislation,

00:41:17.620 the SAVE Act and Chip Roy,

00:41:19.700 this is something we have to move on.

00:41:21.920 And so I'm all in favor of it.

00:41:24.020 And everybody needs to go out.

00:41:25.640 I'm not kidding you.

00:41:27.120 IAPaction.com.

00:41:28.700 Go support that group

00:41:29.660 because that's the only group I know of

00:41:31.420 that has a roll call vote scorecard

00:41:33.700 that holds the congressmen and women accountable

00:41:36.800 and has their track record there.

00:41:38.960 And this will be a key vote.

00:41:40.560 Heritage Foundation,

00:41:41.740 all these groups have key votes.

00:41:42.880 This will be a key vote on just a common sense,

00:41:46.260 85% issue.

00:41:47.640 And of course, 85% of the money is opposed to this.

00:41:51.300 And that is the crux of the issue.

00:41:53.500 The reason that this is so important,

00:41:55.380 Rachel Bovard,

00:41:56.340 Caroline,

00:41:56.660 we got about a minute here before we go to break,

00:41:59.260 is that the Trump agenda has not been codified.

00:42:03.040 It's all the great executive orders.

00:42:05.440 And we're moving out,

00:42:06.220 but it's just like at the end of President Lincoln

00:42:08.960 in the movie Lincoln,

00:42:10.460 the Emancipation Proclamation

00:42:11.760 was just an executive order.

00:42:13.640 They said, hey,

00:42:14.640 as soon as you're out of office,

00:42:15.660 the next guy can just sign it away

00:42:17.100 and we're back to the same issue

00:42:18.520 we fought the civil war over.

00:42:19.600 That's why we need an amendment 0.98

00:42:20.520 to the Constitution.

00:42:21.500 Here, the same thing.

00:42:22.460 President Trump's done a great job.

00:42:24.240 These executive orders need to be codified.

00:42:26.420 This is the most basic

00:42:27.440 that has the overwhelming support

00:42:28.780 of the American people.

00:42:30.040 We're at 48 votes in the Senate.

00:42:32.600 I mean, this is the problem

00:42:34.240 that MAGA has with the Republican Party, ma'am.

00:42:37.040 Well, I just think

00:42:37.660 this is an incredibly dangerous vote

00:42:40.300 for the elitist to ever allow to happen

00:42:43.480 because it will end in one-party rule

00:42:45.860 for the foreseeable future

00:42:46.840 because right now,

00:42:47.560 the math is just not behind the Democrats.

00:42:49.340 When the new census comes out,

00:42:50.920 there is no electoral path

00:42:52.600 for them to win a presidential election.

00:42:54.420 With American citizens.

00:42:55.360 With American citizens.

00:42:56.160 If you get a census that doesn't count,

00:42:58.440 it doesn't count illegal aliens

00:42:59.840 like we tried to get in 2020.

00:43:01.440 And you're having a mass exodus

00:43:02.820 from the blue states into red states.

00:43:04.280 And so it's going to change the map entirely.

00:43:05.800 The Democrats can win Michigan,

00:43:07.140 Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, all of them.

00:43:08.700 And we're still,

00:43:09.620 the Republicans will still win the White House.

00:43:11.440 This is why they're moving in

00:43:12.800 so intensely on Texas.

00:43:14.100 This is why Texas is their long play.

00:43:15.640 They have to make either Texas or Florida

00:43:18.200 competitive for them to have any future

00:43:20.500 in naturalism.

00:43:21.960 And so, exactly.

00:43:22.880 And so in Texas,

00:43:23.580 that's why this is our true last stand

00:43:25.200 right now, and it's so important.

00:43:26.360 Texas is the new Colorado.

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00:45:17.340 Here's your host,

00:45:18.800 Stephen K.

00:45:19.520 Babb.

00:45:24.100 Welcome back.

00:45:25.980 Dave Brat,

00:45:27.000 Frank Gaffney,

00:45:27.820 watching the show this morning,

00:45:29.220 just sent me,

00:45:29.720 he said,

00:45:29.920 Dave Brat inspired him

00:45:31.220 that he's come up with an idea

00:45:33.800 inspired by Brat,

00:45:34.940 we should make all U.S. senators

00:45:36.380 wear body cameras.

00:45:38.640 Love it.

00:45:39.540 Love it.

00:45:40.420 Go Gaffney.

00:45:41.440 He's great.

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00:45:42.440 That's a very good,

00:45:43.820 very good recommendation.

00:45:45.680 So Chip Roy got us the count.

00:45:48.340 He said it actually is to 50 now.

00:45:50.860 It's 48 plus Lee and Thune, 0.80

00:45:53.980 Mike Lee and Thune.

00:45:54.860 We're missing McConnell,

00:45:56.600 Collins,

00:45:57.000 or Murkowski.

00:45:57.500 I want you to explain to the audience again

00:45:59.340 that this is McConnell's deal

00:46:01.420 that he controls Murkowski and Collins.

00:46:03.880 They're not independent actors.

00:46:05.120 So when you see them opposing bills,

00:46:06.680 it's not simply that they are essentially Democrats

00:46:09.320 who are in the Senate,

00:46:10.660 but they are controlled by Mitch McConnell.

00:46:13.740 Yeah,

00:46:13.940 they are.

00:46:14.240 Well,

00:46:14.500 I also,

00:46:15.240 Mitch McConnell has little to no agency

00:46:16.980 over himself anymore.

00:46:17.700 So this is actually a staffer behind Mitch McConnell

00:46:19.720 who is doing this.

00:46:20.700 Just hates Trump and hates MAGA.

00:46:22.360 Yeah,

00:46:22.720 completely.

00:46:23.300 I don't,

00:46:23.960 you know,

00:46:24.340 McConnell is very weak right now,

00:46:26.620 I guess we could say.

00:46:27.540 And I can't imagine he's sitting there

00:46:29.080 authoring reports on this,

00:46:30.700 but I do believe that McConnell's mentality,

00:46:33.460 the mentality behind his staff

00:46:34.320 and behind this has to do with control.

00:46:36.420 And they don't want large majorities. 0.97

00:46:38.220 They want small majorities. 0.99

00:46:39.380 They want to be able to control the base

00:46:42.180 and control what is the majority,

00:46:43.920 not only in the country,

00:46:44.720 but in the Republican Party.

00:46:46.040 And so they don't want 56, 57, 58 Republican senators.

00:46:49.840 They want it to be small.

00:46:50.660 And I do think that with Collins,

00:46:52.680 you know,

00:46:52.880 I always give her a little bit longer of a leash 0.98

00:46:54.840 because she's up for reelection

00:46:56.200 and Maine is a very blue state.

00:46:58.020 So if we,

00:46:58.500 you know,

00:46:58.780 if we don't need her vote,

00:46:59.840 fine.

00:47:00.240 Then,

00:47:00.600 you know,

00:47:01.200 if she goes the other way on it,

00:47:02.660 fine.

00:47:03.200 With Murkowski,

00:47:04.460 Thune absolutely does have the ability

00:47:05.700 to tell Murkowski to get on board

00:47:06.920 and that's a plan to get the president.

00:47:08.380 And it's Alaska.

00:47:09.420 Yeah,

00:47:09.640 Alaska.

00:47:10.020 And also if you don't,

00:47:10.960 then trade something.

00:47:11.780 That's what Alaska does. 1.00

00:47:12.700 That's what Murkowski does.

00:47:13.580 They want a bridge somewhere.

00:47:14.840 They want,

00:47:15.280 you know,

00:47:15.580 a dam somewhere or whatever in their state.

00:47:17.380 Great.

00:47:17.940 Then use your leverage and trade on it.

00:47:19.500 I don't even care.

00:47:20.020 But that is,

00:47:20.560 that is what she usually demands. 0.99

00:47:22.080 And so,

00:47:22.860 you know,

00:47:23.260 whatever it is,

00:47:23.880 I think this is the most important vote

00:47:25.480 that they could possibly do.

00:47:26.700 President Trump won.

00:47:27.700 The two centerpieces of the MAGA revolution

00:47:30.660 is number one,

00:47:32.100 seal the border 0.52

00:47:32.800 and deport all illegal aliens. 0.94

00:47:34.900 Get the sovereignty of the country back

00:47:36.440 and make the citizens in charge.

00:47:38.260 And number two is election integrity.

00:47:40.280 We're not going to,

00:47:40.680 and by the way,

00:47:41.160 they're both inextricably linked

00:47:42.680 because this is how

00:47:43.960 the red green alliance

00:47:45.560 has basically taken over

00:47:48.100 large sections of the country

00:47:49.480 and continue to control our elections

00:47:52.080 and continue to control.

00:47:53.160 As you say,

00:47:53.640 these are red states

00:47:54.560 with massive blue cities

00:47:56.200 like Illinois

00:47:57.120 and like New York,

00:47:58.200 like Minnesota,

00:47:59.320 right?

00:48:00.100 That you have these sanctuary cities

00:48:01.900 and this is why they keep sending them in.

00:48:03.320 And I might submit

00:48:04.700 that right now

00:48:05.760 in those sanctuary cities,

00:48:06.900 there's been no reaching out

00:48:08.900 or middle ground

00:48:09.740 with Homan saying,

00:48:11.180 hey,

00:48:11.320 we just want access to the jails 1.00

00:48:12.980 to take the criminals out

00:48:15.040 and maybe we even prioritize

00:48:16.240 the hardest criminals in Minnesota.

00:48:18.740 And they're not doing that.

00:48:19.840 Hochul just came out last night

00:48:21.260 and put out a decree.

00:48:22.900 There will be no action,

00:48:24.560 there'll be no working relationship whatsoever

00:48:26.440 between New York State's law enforcement

00:48:28.920 and ICE. 0.63

00:48:30.120 So it couldn't be more in your face.

00:48:32.700 You cannot compromise with these people.

00:48:34.600 There's nothing to compromise about.

00:48:36.060 And that's why I say

00:48:37.540 if we can't get this vote,

00:48:39.000 first off,

00:48:39.740 we ought to put a blowtorch 0.99

00:48:40.980 to these people in the Senate. 0.98

00:48:41.940 But if you can't even get to a vote

00:48:43.220 to codify this for this election,

00:48:45.720 President Trump

00:48:46.420 is going to have to nationalize the elections.

00:48:48.860 We're going to have to then

00:48:49.840 take other measures to secure

00:48:51.760 because we are not prepared

00:48:53.640 and the Warren Posse

00:48:54.740 and the MAGA base

00:48:55.640 are not prepared to sit back

00:48:57.300 and just have these elections stolen.

00:48:59.560 No.

00:49:00.100 And you also,

00:49:00.660 it's,

00:49:00.980 I don't even understand

00:49:02.000 why we need to do this bill.

00:49:03.580 If you are not a citizen,

00:49:05.120 you can't vote.

00:49:06.060 I don't like,

00:49:06.740 I,

00:49:07.220 we can go in and enforce that.

00:49:09.020 I don't understand

00:49:09.760 how a state can decide

00:49:11.080 put ice around the ballot boxes

00:49:12.520 and they can cry all they want

00:49:14.300 and throw their toys

00:49:15.100 out of the pram

00:49:15.640 all they want.

00:49:16.260 Dave Bratt,

00:49:16.680 your thoughts on this?

00:49:19.200 Well,

00:49:19.640 you brought up Virginia,

00:49:21.540 the stunner

00:49:22.200 proposed legislation

00:49:23.640 that caught my eye

00:49:24.600 more than any others.

00:49:25.580 They're going to make it

00:49:26.340 illegal to count hand ballots.

00:49:29.300 Right?

00:49:29.580 Let me say that again.

00:49:30.300 They're going to make it

00:49:30.920 illegal to count hand ballots.

00:49:33.120 That,

00:49:33.360 that's the most safest

00:49:34.660 accountable way.

00:49:36.340 All the rest of the world

00:49:37.180 does that,

00:49:37.660 by the way,

00:49:37.960 every other country

00:49:38.660 except for the United States.

00:49:40.420 And so what the American people

00:49:41.800 haven't been able to,

00:49:43.500 you know,

00:49:44.180 receive yet

00:49:44.920 because they don't want

00:49:45.580 this view of their own country

00:49:46.940 is that one of the major parties

00:49:49.200 is pushing

00:49:50.240 that type of corruption

00:49:52.680 in your face,

00:49:53.980 in public.

00:49:55.120 And that's,

00:49:56.200 you know,

00:49:57.380 Minnesota nice.

00:49:58.600 There's all sorts of articles

00:49:59.680 on that going on.

00:50:00.860 The churches,

00:50:01.940 the NGOs,

00:50:02.820 the American people,

00:50:05.560 I think,

00:50:05.980 are finally getting there

00:50:06.960 because the Minnesota story

00:50:08.220 also involved

00:50:08.860 that $10 billion

00:50:09.660 in corruption

00:50:10.960 bleeding off.

00:50:13.480 Right?

00:50:13.700 And then the Ukraine war,

00:50:15.120 we still don't have

00:50:15.720 an audit on that.

00:50:16.720 And so when you combine

00:50:17.460 the corruption

00:50:17.980 with the money

00:50:18.820 and the fraud

00:50:19.600 and the American taxpayers

00:50:22.020 paying the bill for it,

00:50:23.980 that's the new piece

00:50:25.420 that we may be turning,

00:50:27.620 we may be turning the page,

00:50:29.740 but as Chip just said,

00:50:32.120 turn on the lights,

00:50:33.160 crank up the cameras,

00:50:35.020 and let's hold

00:50:36.560 everyone accountable.

00:50:37.660 Shine the light

00:50:38.260 on the senators,

00:50:39.200 on the House,

00:50:40.580 on the budget piece.

00:50:42.380 We still don't have

00:50:43.120 that part right.

00:50:44.000 That's still inflationary.

00:50:45.380 We got work to do on that.

00:50:46.740 The good news is

00:50:47.360 President Trump,

00:50:48.780 the Atlanta Fed now,

00:50:50.220 GDP now,

00:50:51.100 number is 4.2% GDP growth.

00:50:54.100 It was two something

00:50:54.980 under Biden a year ago.

00:50:57.440 And so that is phenomenal progress

00:50:59.740 on the economic front.

00:51:00.920 There's way more to come.

00:51:02.660 That's going to kick in.

00:51:05.020 But that is very much tied

00:51:07.180 to what we do

00:51:07.820 on this border issue

00:51:08.840 and the border invasion

00:51:09.760 when you got 10 to 20 million

00:51:11.240 illegals in the country 0.98

00:51:13.100 that puts tremendous

00:51:14.020 downward pressure on wages

00:51:15.320 for the poorest of the poor.

00:51:16.820 But that 4.2%

00:51:18.180 is a great number.

00:51:19.280 Here's the issue with it.

00:51:20.860 They're going to use that

00:51:21.820 against President Trump.

00:51:22.960 What the Democrats are going,

00:51:24.160 the Democrats want

00:51:25.060 to shut down the government

00:51:26.120 because they think

00:51:27.220 that drives

00:51:27.900 the growth rate down

00:51:29.160 and it thwarts

00:51:30.040 President Trump's

00:51:30.860 economic program.

00:51:32.160 That's one of his concerns.

00:51:33.200 That's why we're facing now

00:51:34.600 these two dilemmas.

00:51:36.040 You've got all this

00:51:36.800 ICE negotiation

00:51:37.800 that we shouldn't

00:51:38.800 give up on anything

00:51:39.640 because they've just told you,

00:51:41.180 Hochul just told you,

00:51:42.140 there's no compromise.

00:51:43.500 They're not going

00:51:43.800 to work with you.

00:51:44.680 And if you don't get these,

00:51:46.100 you don't get the codification

00:51:47.340 of the election integrity issues,

00:51:50.700 then you're going to have

00:51:51.840 to do it yourself.

00:51:52.540 Caroline's absolutely correct.

00:51:54.360 The demographics

00:51:55.140 is working against them, right?

00:51:57.220 If you have a census 0.94

00:51:59.200 that doesn't count

00:52:00.100 illegal aliens,

00:52:00.900 which we try to get done

00:52:01.940 in 2020,

00:52:03.920 it's a totally

00:52:04.800 different demographic

00:52:05.540 plus what the movement

00:52:06.720 to Florida,

00:52:07.660 the movement to Arizona,

00:52:08.660 the movement to Texas,

00:52:10.240 to these,

00:52:10.700 and particularly

00:52:11.040 these other southern states

00:52:12.220 that are more MAGA,

00:52:13.680 the Democrats are looking

00:52:14.640 at the possibility

00:52:15.800 of even with the blue wall

00:52:17.740 of not winning

00:52:18.380 another presidential election

00:52:19.620 and having another pickup,

00:52:20.940 I don't know,

00:52:21.200 of 20 or 30 seats

00:52:22.180 in the House,

00:52:22.980 which makes it almost

00:52:23.740 bulletproof

00:52:24.360 for their control

00:52:25.300 of the House.

00:52:26.000 Unfortunately,

00:52:26.960 this is why they're making

00:52:27.900 such a tough stand on this.

00:52:29.320 They understand

00:52:29.920 we could put them

00:52:30.760 out of business.

00:52:32.280 One new thing

00:52:33.020 we're going to start

00:52:33.560 in the next hour

00:52:34.220 about the color revolution.

00:52:35.720 People like in Texas 9,

00:52:37.560 I don't think folks

00:52:38.440 in the United States

00:52:39.820 overall,

00:52:40.500 and particularly the MAGA base,

00:52:41.760 understand the lethality

00:52:43.200 of this red-green alliance

00:52:45.440 and what it means.

00:52:46.080 When you look at Mandami

00:52:46.980 and the way they run DSA,

00:52:49.020 Working Family Party,

00:52:50.120 Democrat Socialists,

00:52:51.720 these people

00:52:52.160 are highly,

00:52:52.800 or they're Bolsheviks,

00:52:54.000 Bolsheviks and jihadists, 1.00

00:52:55.840 and they are highly focused.

00:52:57.640 We're going to get

00:52:58.060 into this in the second hour.

00:52:59.560 The president of Columbia

00:53:00.660 is supposed to show up

00:53:02.240 and meet with the

00:53:03.880 president of the United States.

00:53:04.580 We'll also cover that

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Bannon's War Room - February 03, 2026

Episode 5114： The Last Stand Is In Texas; Passing The SAVE Act

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