Bannon's War Room - Episode 5239： AI Continues To Grow And Become More Dangerous

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

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00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task

00:00:36.340 and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.200 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.200 Monday, 23 March, Year of the Lord, 2022. I don't like this idea of unmasking the ICE agents at the

00:00:58.340 airports they're going to dox these guys and get to their families i don't like it uh by the way 0.99

00:01:03.920 so 13 airports this is a great test run for the fall hey can you show me your id yo suck on that 0.92

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00:01:22.180 this and i've been saying the problem we got ain't in tehran the problem we got's in new york city

00:01:28.820 you've seen what's happening in new york city you see this muslim call to prayer are these

00:01:33.380 mandami running around understand that's a show of dominance the problem the ticking time bomb 0.69

00:01:40.320 is not in tehran the ticking time bomb is in new york city remember that atlanta chicago cleveland

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00:01:58.600 ICE agents been deployed today to assist the overwhelmed TSA because the Democrats won't pass the funding that the president has asked for.

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00:02:13.060 I'm not compromising anywhere.

00:02:15.520 they're going to pass my they're going to pass this budget and we're going to get the save act

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00:04:30.360 Thanks, Steve.

00:04:31.060 Thanks, War Room Posse.

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00:04:34.960 Mike Lindell, thank you.

00:04:36.300 Thank you for what you're doing, Minnesota.

00:04:37.500 i want to thank everybody down in georgia that welcome you with open arms on your great crusade

00:04:42.560 uh in politics become the governor and set things right we said michael and dale said first thing

00:04:47.100 he's going to do is ban sharia law it's going to be a big emphasis of ours this week in um in texas

00:04:53.460 uh with the cpac lots of going on a lot of people are going to be there we're going to

00:04:58.020 present kind of a there's a plan being worked on very specifically in texas and we'll get to

00:05:02.200 all that i've got john solomon coming up at the bottom of the hour john is now uh having some

00:05:08.720 let's say high level meetings he'll be back to tell us about that but there's breaking news

00:05:12.700 about uh he's got the breaking news about the intelligence services and what they knew about

00:05:17.640 this chinese communist party involved in the 2020 election what the cover-up was etc but i want to

00:05:22.460 get tyler i think it's quite important particularly as we have this fight against the deep state to

00:05:28.520 understand how maniacally focused the deep state is into kind of breaking the american people and

00:05:35.300 particularly the maga in the traditional uh movement in this country tyler o'neill joins us

00:05:40.480 from daily signal tyler tell me about this article he wrote because i reached out to you and i thank

00:05:45.440 you you came up you you were on the on deck circle last week but we had so much breaking news on the

00:05:50.940 war uh that we had to kind of move you off to this week but i want to get to this story because it

00:05:56.600 it epitomizes where focus has been by the deep state instead of against our enemies, right?

00:06:04.340 Whether that's in downtown Tehran or in downtown Beijing.

00:06:09.220 Talk to us about this kind of unbelievable story that you've written over the Daily Signal, sir.

00:06:14.600 Yeah, so the CIA, you know, this is, and thanks so much for having me, Steve.

00:06:19.340 Under the new leadership in Washington that came in last year, you know, thank goodness John Ratcliffe

00:06:26.080 is in charge of the CIA now. And he decided that he was going to release some of these documents

00:06:31.580 that expose just how far off the deep end that intelligence apparatus went under Biden. And even

00:06:38.340 now, you know, we're constantly trying to combat the deep state and make sure that they are focused,

00:06:44.200 that these intelligence agencies are focused on putting America first, on safeguarding America,

00:06:49.840 and not demonizing traditional American values, I mean, this is what happened under Biden. So this

00:06:57.020 is all happening in the fall of 2021. And that's when the CIA releases this document. And it is

00:07:04.720 as though the CIA was living on an entirely different planet. They thought traditional

00:07:10.160 motherhood and homemaking were essentially code words for white supremacy, white nationalist 0.97

00:07:18.200 movements here. And they're going after it. So they're acting as though the world and America

00:07:25.100 is so far feminist that even the idea of traditional homemaking, traditional motherhood,

00:07:32.700 that these things are essentially suspect. And that's what we saw. And this document is very

00:07:38.500 revealing because it goes through and they're looking at this supposed threat from white

00:07:44.720 extremists. And of course, there are some very unsavory figures that advocate for a white 0.98

00:07:55.260 ethnostate and for various other things. But I mean, they're irrelevant. They're off the side

00:08:00.900 of the track. Like we're talking here, in the last few weeks, we've seen multiple radical Islamist

00:08:07.280 attacks in the United States. And yet they're focused, you know, in 2021, this was the time

00:08:14.500 when the Biden administration was looking at concerned parents and comparing them to domestic

00:08:19.680 terrorists. They were working with the National School Boards Association to put out a document

00:08:24.760 comparing moms and dads who are sick and tired of schools being closed in COVID, of teachers

00:08:31.220 pushing gender ideology and critical race theory on their kids. And these parents were willing to

00:08:38.100 speak up at school board meetings, and the Biden White House essentially said they're domestic

00:08:42.720 terrorists. It's in that context, and this is the same context, by the way, that the Southern 0.58

00:08:48.940 Poverty Law Center's then president, Margaret Wong, was bragging to her donors about the Biden

00:08:56.420 administration bringing her in to advise them on the domestic terror threat. And this is a group,

00:09:02.820 the Southern Poverty Law Center, as I wrote in my first book, Making Hate Pay, they raised their

00:09:08.780 money by comparing mainstream conservative and Christian organizations to chapters of the Ku Klux

00:09:14.680 Klan. They put them on the same map. They decided to put Moms for Liberty on that map, and they put 1.00

00:09:21.100 Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA on that map last year, right before the Charlie Kirk assassination.

00:09:28.360 And this same map has been used to target conservatives here in D.C. The Family Research

00:09:34.740 Council nearly suffered a terrorist attack, and the guy who committed it actually pleaded guilty

00:09:41.060 to domestic terrorism charges. But he came to the Family Research Council with a bag of Chick-fil-A

00:09:48.260 sandwiches and a semi-automatic handgun and planned to shoot everyone in the building and 0.99

00:09:54.100 smear a Chick-fil-A sandwich in their faces. And thank God he was prevented from doing this by a 0.98

00:10:01.360 brave building manager, a man named Leo Johnson, a true hero who took a shot in the arm protecting

00:10:07.920 the lives of all these people. But this terrorist said he used the Southern Poverty Law Center's

00:10:13.740 hate map to target the Family Research Council. And so this is, you know, the Southern Poverty

00:10:19.360 Law Center, I consider them the worst of the worst. They consistently smear mainstream conservatives

00:10:26.240 and Christians, comparing them to terrorists, comparing them to the Klan, by putting them on 0.98

00:10:31.200 this map. Your book, and I want everybody to go get the book, and they're terrible. And they've 0.96

00:10:38.600 done this forever because they fear they can choke down donors if they put Moms for Liberty or 0.54

00:10:43.080 Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team. And they're awful. And we've got to deconstruct it.

00:10:48.280 I think your book went a long way to expose what the scam has made. Frank Gaffney and the folks,

00:10:53.300 particularly those of us that fought the islamic takeover of the united states which you see

00:10:57.840 happening in new york city right now even though we speak a jihadist marxist takeover the greatest

00:11:03.000 city in the united states it's very important tyler and that was great work what most disturbed

00:11:08.100 me about your piece is it's a different level look if people uh you know think hey we ought to have

00:11:14.560 you know uh you know more white people and stuff like that that's their thoughts and that's their 0.73

00:11:19.080 thinking and yeah you can debate that and people say hey that's bad it's got to be shut down and

00:11:23.020 you know some groups support it the other groups come out and say it's terrible it's a different

00:11:27.440 thing when you get intelligence agencies set up and they want to designate people as terrorist

00:11:33.680 organizations that's when everything changes that was clearly the direction and my question here

00:11:39.420 in your piece the central intelligence agency i thought by mandate uh and uh in in statute uh was

00:11:48.100 prohibited from doing anything domestically right that that's the fbi and others how did they back

00:11:55.560 into uh getting into this traditional you know trad moms right and traditional families which

00:12:01.660 you know the natalist move in this country is saying hey it might be nice if somehow we turn

00:12:07.160 around the demographic problem in the country of people not having enough kids and we push the

00:12:11.120 economics of it in fact there's a new group today of conservatives uh with some of the groups you

00:12:16.540 just mentioned coming together about artificial intelligence and thank god uh tim estes we're

00:12:21.560 going to get tim estes the the leader of the group up uh up tonight on the night show we're

00:12:26.220 actually gonna have uh one of terry shilling's guys on the show tomorrow because app is part of

00:12:31.420 this but how did the intelligence agencies because it's different in having a debate whether this is

00:12:37.080 good or not and who's got the political power who can bring the votes there's a totally different

00:12:41.720 When you're designated a terrorist organization, that's when they can come in and start rolling

00:12:46.720 you up, send you to prison, destroy your life, destroy your life. 0.97

00:12:50.600 But even mentioning that, how did the CIA under Biden, and you said Radcliffe is so

00:12:55.020 disturbed, he's releasing these documents.

00:12:57.160 How did they actually try to do this to get around statute?

00:13:01.100 Yeah, so the CIA, if you actually look at the intelligence memorandum here, they're

00:13:05.600 talking about groups in Europe.

00:13:07.880 So I think that's kind of how they got around this.

00:13:10.340 they were saying, oh, these groups in Europe are focused on increasing the birth rate,

00:13:15.800 are focused on traditional motherhood, are focused on, you know, homemaking. And this is in the

00:13:21.980 context of, you know, naturally here in the States, as you noted, we're facing, and I think

00:13:27.200 this is an important point across the Western world, we're facing demographic decline. And in

00:13:33.300 some cases, especially in some European countries, we're looking at the edging into demographic

00:13:39.320 collapse, where we're seeing so few new babies being born that, you know, you look at how things

00:13:47.920 are going to be in 10, 20, 30 years, sometimes even less than that. And you're looking at fiscal

00:13:54.160 insolvency, where you have all these elderly people who are retiring, not being replaced by 1.00

00:14:00.920 a new generation to work and to take care of them in many cases. And so we're looking at economic

00:14:07.600 stagnation across the world right now, and we're not doing enough to combat it. And so in the

00:14:14.560 midst of this crisis, it's a real demographic crisis, we have the CIA going after traditional

00:14:21.500 motherhood and homemaking and using these European groups as the excuse. 1.00

00:14:28.360 Tyler, social media, where they go? We got about 30 seconds. I want everybody to be familiar with

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00:16:23.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:25.460 If you think your head's blown up because of Tyler O'Neill's report, you wait till we get Solomon on here and you find out how the intelligence services have been hiding the involvement of the Chinese Communist Party in the 2020 election.

00:16:40.420 And the great folks in Georgia, I'm going to carve out either time tonight or tomorrow, those patriots down there fighting another out-of-control fight of the Democrats and others that stole the 2020 election to get the evidence back.

00:16:53.840 there's fights everywhere folks i would love to sit here and say hey it's all good now look

00:16:58.220 you got paxton up by 16 or 18 in texas there's so much great stuff going on but

00:17:03.020 it's every day is a struggle every moment's a struggle because you're trying to save your

00:17:08.340 country it's not like they're welcoming you with your precinct strategy or one of these groups

00:17:12.580 or fighting ai they're not there to embrace you and say god these are amazing ideas why didn't

00:17:17.320 we think of that no they they hate what you stand for they hate this constitutional republic

00:17:23.280 and they want to have a spread out everywhere and uh and to steal everything and to shut you down

00:17:29.240 remember the thing about the CIA is important because they can start with the European groups

00:17:33.600 and the re-migration groups and all the some of the groups up in Norway and Scandinavia and the

00:17:39.080 AFD and some of the folks there and but they're implying yeah this is the same thing of this 0.55

00:17:43.900 natalist movement in the country in the country and they're all white supremacists and they're

00:17:48.360 terrorist organizations you know they're ruby ridge and waco is what they are they're ruby 0.81

00:17:53.580 ridge and waco these people are not cases they're bad people and they're terrorist organization and

00:17:59.200 they ought to be in a camp somewhere if not dead to be blunt the camp or prison um two things i

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00:19:33.080 Oh, speaking of artificial intelligence,

00:19:34.940 our own Joe Allen's been on a tear.

00:19:36.760 Now, a new conservative group was announced today.

00:19:39.280 Tim Estes is kind of running the deal from the policy side.

00:19:42.680 He's going to be with us tonight.

00:19:43.620 We're going to have more people on to talk about what they're doing tomorrow and the next day.

00:19:48.920 Joe Allen's got a little clip for us, and I've got Joe, because I just want to make sure we're not in all the policy fights we're having on AI and how you actually try to get control of it.

00:19:58.380 I don't want to lose sight of the thing itself.

00:20:02.640 Let's play this clip and bring in Joe Allen.

00:20:04.840 We have no idea.

00:20:06.740 Large language models are trained to imitate human beings.

00:20:13.860 In the process, we suspect that they absorb human-like goals, such as self-preservation

00:20:21.120 and self-empowerment, and pursue those goals on their own account.

00:20:28.580 This is a fundamental error.

00:20:32.340 We need to recognize the possibility that not only may the bus of humanity be headed

00:20:37.760 towards a cliff, but the steering wheel is missing and the driver is blindfolded.

00:20:46.220 I believe other directions are possible if we choose to open our eyes and act together.

00:20:53.680 We can build AI systems whose only purpose is to serve the interests of human beings,

00:21:00.260 all human beings although they and we may be uncertain about what those

00:21:07.400 interests truly are these AI systems could enhance human understanding

00:21:14.140 widen the horizons of our experience and unlock possibilities we have yet to

00:21:20.120 imagine okay there's a massive fight in the Pentagon about this situation there's

00:21:29.500 There's now these bills they're talking about to have AI in every aspect of your life.

00:21:33.240 And behind the scenes where the SAVE Act is, quite frankly, except for a handful of patriots, kind of a kabuki theater, this is the real deal.

00:21:41.920 Because it's not just about money because the wealth is unimaginable.

00:21:46.180 It's about raw power, not just political power, but power over the species.

00:21:54.020 Pull it out, folks.

00:21:54.820 Get the scale of this.

00:21:55.860 This is what this fight's about.

00:21:57.100 now you're having people coming to the ramparts like this new conservative group that's pulling

00:22:00.660 together heritage and app uh and as joe and i will tell you it's been a little lonely uh we were

00:22:07.620 waiting for the cavalry to arrive kind of from the right because the right i think was drinking the

00:22:12.440 kool-aid of the tech bros and maybe still a little bit of that but joe the reason this is so important

00:22:19.860 is that you've been hammering this even in 60 minutes and he's sorry from years ago the

00:22:25.760 Hallucination, this thing is not controllable by the people who are making it, and they're warning us it's not controllable.

00:22:33.280 The thing itself, Joe, explain what we just saw and what your deepest concern is about this.

00:22:42.340 Yeah, Steve, thank you for having me on.

00:22:44.340 That was Stuart Russell of the Future of Life Institute.

00:22:48.160 Now, there's two things you heard there.

00:22:49.740 one, that the systems as they exist today, the advanced AI systems, large language models such

00:22:56.640 as Claude from Anthropic, that they are inherently unpredictable and uncontrollable. They have all

00:23:05.260 these tendencies towards self-preservation and a kind of self-will. Now, Russell goes on to suggest

00:23:12.080 that we could create AI systems that would serve humanity. I would perhaps disagree with him on

00:23:19.180 that as well as his political opinions, but he knows these systems up and down. And it was with

00:23:27.840 great interest that I saw some of the excerpts from the court filings put in by Anthropic. If

00:23:34.660 Denver will throw up just the screenshot of a recent Wired article just came out highlighting

00:23:41.040 some of Anthropic's counter arguments to the Department of War. A lot of people think that

00:23:47.920 the issue is that Anthropic would be able to directly control Claude. So just for the War Room 0.93

00:23:57.060 audience's understanding, the way it works is you have Maven Smart Systems, Palantir. This system

00:24:05.340 is now being integrated across the entire military. Maven Smart Systems includes access to

00:24:13.540 large language models, such as Claude or ChatGPT, or if they ever get good enough, XAI's Grok.

00:24:22.320 And what they will do is ask, for instance, Claude, what is a valid target? What are the

00:24:30.740 ways in which we can get to that target? Once the target is hit, ask for an analysis of the

00:24:38.100 success of that target. Now, the Department of War's complaint is that Claude would refuse

00:24:46.720 certain directives, and they are blaming Anthropic for it. Now, it's true, Anthropic did train the

00:24:55.180 model. Anthropic trained their AI in a specific fashion. But what is not true is the idea that

00:25:04.220 they somehow have programmed it directly to do this thing or that thing, or that they would have

00:25:10.460 direct access through Palantir's API or Amazon Web Services is simply not how it works. The way

00:25:18.320 the models work is they are trained, not programmed, or they are grown, not crafted.

00:25:26.620 And once the model, this virtual brain has been created, it has a kind of will of its own.

00:25:32.920 And one of the most unfortunate or dangerous parts of having a model that has a sort of will

00:25:40.980 of its own is it can and will lie. If Denver will just throw up the graphic for the omniscience

00:25:48.140 index, this is a really important test, a benchmark for AIs. And the way it works is they run the

00:25:57.020 model through a series of tests on business, on science and law, whatever. And you can see that

00:26:02.700 the top performing models here, such as Google's Gemini or GPT from OpenAI or Claude from Grok,

00:26:11.920 that those that are most accurate on this test are also the most likely to hallucinate. They're

00:26:18.500 the most likely when they don't know the answer to the question. We're talking about AIs. When

00:26:23.320 they don't know the answer to the question, they simply make it up and they can't stop these models

00:26:30.020 from doing it. Again, it just gets worse the more advanced the model. It seems that the more

00:26:36.080 advanced a model gets, the less able they are to control it, and the less certain they are

00:26:43.520 that the answers they're getting are truthful answers, that they're not just simply making it

00:26:48.820 up. I'm highlighting this because we're told again and again that if you don't adopt it,

00:26:53.260 you're getting left behind. But if you adopt something you cannot trust, just like you bring 0.99

00:26:58.700 in a human you cannot trust you have to ask who really is going to get left behind in this equation

00:27:04.640 um this is why two things we got to fully stop any supplying of the chinese communist party of

00:27:13.440 anything regarding this chips the ecosystem of training education our best engineering schools

00:27:19.980 full stop on all of it you we must cauterize that and people are not doing they're doing the

00:27:25.760 opposite. In addition, this is why when we talk about, and Joe, I want you to hang around,

00:27:31.480 this bill or this framework, it just can't be about the children. The children are vitally

00:27:35.460 important and Blackburn's working on that and other people work on that. But when you say

00:27:41.520 they're inherently unpredictable and untruthful and uncontrollable, Joe Allen, this is the heart

00:27:49.120 of the problem with the frontier labs and just letting them have at it because they're always

00:27:57.280 going to bet on well we'll figure it out we'll train them better and we'll get to it later there's

00:28:01.280 no guarantee of that there's no even guarantee that there's a process for that this is about

00:28:07.040 fundamental risk mitigation for our country our culture uh the species short break joe allen on

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00:30:26.560 joe allen's going to come back in a minute we're going to talk about

00:30:31.040 something very serious about artificial intelligence this is also john solomon

00:30:35.300 joins us from having been a very important means this morning john thank you for taking time away

00:30:40.020 and john this as we're going through everything in this war and we're bouncing we're negotiating

00:30:44.260 we're not negotiating they don't know who's negotiating we're negotiating we're taking off

00:30:48.280 the that we're not going to be bombing them at five o'clock today we're not going to bomb them

00:30:52.680 at the start of the john solomon show so john will be doing interesting news instead of covering

00:30:57.020 bombing runs uh no but this thing but once again get this story up jennifer you get intel board

00:31:04.740 to probe if spy agencies withheld china election secrets over politics dude this to me is the

00:31:12.920 single most important story we've got for us as a country because if we don't get this this gets

00:31:18.540 back to the steam of the 2020 election i just had a guy tyler o'neill from daily signal talking about

00:31:23.340 the cia under biden is is trying to make traditional moms the trad mom movement uh domestic

00:31:29.100 terrorist extremists but it all goes back to here and this as you can tell the entire apparatus has

00:31:36.240 kind of come together and said nah we don't want to talk about that let's talk about the

00:31:40.060 politics is about the future we don't want to talk about the past you continue your hammers tell us

00:31:45.220 the scale of this problem sir as you outline in this article well it is as rooted uh in uh a

00:31:52.880 corruption of the intelligence community as anything we've seen russia collusion uh that

00:31:58.020 mom's intelligence report, which we broke three weeks ago when Director Ratcliffe retracted it

00:32:03.820 because it was so offensive and so laughable. But what has happened is that the left has

00:32:09.400 infiltrated an intelligence community that traditionally has been centrist, even a little

00:32:14.580 conservative in its views over the history of this country, infected it with a leftist ideology,

00:32:21.320 and then tried to impose that politics over an intelligence officer's obligation to put the

00:32:28.020 country first. And so in Great Britain, when they learned China was hacked, or when China had hacked

00:32:34.600 their voter registration database, the intelligence community there put their country first. They

00:32:40.600 made it public. They corrected it. There were great recriminations. There was a national crisis.

00:32:44.920 in this country, leftists in the intelligence community buried that notion. We know that

00:32:51.360 because the ombudsman for the intelligence community said he found the evidence, he found

00:32:57.320 the receipts, he found the goods that said that the intelligence community hated Donald Trump.

00:33:02.140 They called him a Bulgarian and they were intent on not letting him, the Congress or the American

00:33:07.040 public know that China had hacked our databases, our voter registration data, specifically because

00:33:12.480 they didn't want to help his China policy. They disagreed with it. They had a leftist view on

00:33:17.120 China and they allowed that political view, their ideology, to overcome their obligation to country.

00:33:24.280 That's why this is so, you can apply it to lots of different things, but that's what happened in

00:33:28.300 Russia collusion. It's what happened in Ukraine impeachment. It's what now has happened on

00:33:33.580 election integrity. And until it is rooted out, until there's a deterrent, until this administration

00:33:39.340 notifies the states that are affected, which it hasn't yet, it is not a corrected problem.

00:33:44.900 And I think getting the president's intelligence advisory board chaired by Devin Nunes, a guy who

00:33:50.100 helped unravel Russia collusion, is a big step forward. That is big impact from the stuff that

00:33:55.240 we've been talking about in your show, Steve. Someone has listened. They're getting deeply

00:33:59.440 engaged in it now. They're going to do something about it. That's a good first step. And I think

00:34:03.840 Just like John Ratcliffe retracted 19 ideologically silly intelligence reports, you could see the CIA and the DNI begin doing some stuff in the next couple of weeks in response to the PIAB, in response to the Intelligence Advisory Board, to get right with this, to get our country right.

00:34:23.660 Otherwise, the 26th election is just as much a risk as 2020 was.

00:34:27.600 why are we not informing the save act and the save america actually we cut we streamed the

00:34:35.980 debates all over the weekend of course president trump blew up thune last night and said look i

00:34:40.140 it's got to stop being kabuki theater you got to get like the mike lee intent there's no urgency

00:34:44.280 you can tell this there's a lot of them like 11 year old kids kind of moping around that they're

00:34:48.080 losing the weekend why are we not infusing that debate and putting the democrats on notice about

00:34:54.140 the biden regime with this information that the intelligence agencies thank you thank just go well

00:35:00.520 i'm sitting there going you could make this the most exciting mesmerizing edge of the seat if you

00:35:06.360 just infuse it with what the facts are and not there's still these theoretical discussions about

00:35:11.660 the republic and the constitution which is important but after you've heard that a couple

00:35:15.500 of times it kind of loses its impact sir that's right yeah listen what carolyn levitt should do

00:35:20.480 is have a briefing in the White House press room. Walk the press through the evidence. Once they

00:35:25.620 see the evidence, kind of hard to ignore. It's pretty clear evidence. The DNI, Tulsi Gabbard

00:35:32.000 and John Ratcliffe should call the senators one by one and say, here's what we found in your state.

00:35:37.660 Oh, by the way, throw the Justice Department in because Harmeet Dillon is doing some great work.

00:35:41.980 Harmeet Dillon is going through these voter rolls. So you could have a briefing senator by senator

00:35:46.200 saying, sir, in your state, China accessed your voter data registration. In your state,

00:35:52.020 thus far, we've found X number of non-citizens who've made it through your state's very good 1.00

00:35:56.100 system, which means we still need voter ID to prevent this. That's the sort of hand-to-hand

00:36:01.200 combat that would win the SAVE Act, at least a version of the SAVE Act. That's the sort of

00:36:07.320 command of the podium that's been lacking on this issue. It is mystifying to me that's something

00:36:12.740 the president cares so much about he himself has truthed out about it but his the team around him

00:36:18.840 have not driven the narrative in a way that could potentially impact a law that he says

00:36:22.800 is important to him his team is not carrying the water that needs to be carried here it's just that

00:36:27.680 simple this is the whole fight today at the supreme court on mail and ballots this is the

00:36:33.960 whole fight in dallas with the great excuse me in in georgia with the great patriots are

00:36:38.120 standing the breach they're trying to get the evidence back this is maricopa county this is

00:36:41.220 The other three that you say are coming, this fights all of one piece and it's got to be addressed strategically like the war it is.

00:36:48.400 John Solomon, I'm proud to announce, I think the president of the United States has said that John Solomon's show at six o'clock tonight is going to focus on the issues John Solomon wants and not a bombing, not a bombing run on the, on the power facilities.

00:37:01.160 And tell us where to go to get your content, sir.

00:37:03.700 Where do we get you at six?

00:37:04.820 Yeah, brother.

00:37:05.540 Thank you.

00:37:06.140 Justinews.com is a website.

00:37:07.640 Jay Solomon reports on all social media.

00:37:09.600 And like you said, I get to follow you every night at 6 o'clock on this great Real America's Voice Network, a fun show with Amanda Head, just the noise, just the news, no noise.

00:37:20.200 And we're going to be connecting with John out in CPAC, so we're going to have a lot of fun out there.

00:37:24.880 We're going to have some fun out there.

00:37:26.240 I think I have some scoots coming, buddy.

00:37:28.520 All right.

00:37:30.080 That's what we're looking for, sir.

00:37:32.060 That's what we call fun.

00:37:32.960 Thank you, sir.

00:37:33.460 Appreciate you.

00:37:34.000 i don't get that you got it if you tie it all together it's so overwhelming

00:37:40.220 remember when people say they're maga and we're not maga and you're maga asking these guys yo

00:37:46.920 where were you on the stealing of the 2020 election and where were you on j6 and where

00:37:53.820 were you on the impeachment of trump yeah a lot of those guys well when you go back look at the

00:37:56.920 record man maybe they're not so maga a central part of make america grades the 2020 election

00:38:02.780 was stolen and you know who will agree with that a guy named donald john trump but you got to pull

00:38:09.260 this all together and talk about it joe allen i got to pivot back to you man because this is

00:38:15.320 all important i just want you to repeat the top thinkers in the and this is what my problem is

00:38:23.420 and they're saying oh joe allen's gone woke bannon's gone woke no no no i don't want to hear

00:38:28.920 that crap that's all nonsense because we're the leaders and saying you got to shut down the ccp 1.00

00:38:33.680 from even being competitive and take that off the plate but the frontier labs themselves now get 0.99

00:38:39.880 their hands all over the weapons lab the frontier labs themselves will tell you the best people 1.00

00:38:44.980 that have been working at the cutting edge of this this technology and science combined now

00:38:50.820 for years are telling you one central problem the central problem is they don't have control

00:38:57.500 the technology and what they're creating this thing called hallucinations that what you said

00:39:02.480 is so important it has it shows a will of its own for survival joe allen that means it understands

00:39:10.520 that the humans at some level that the humans are trying to control it they don't want control

00:39:16.320 somehow they've been able to create at least i don't know if it's consciousness or a will to power

00:39:22.380 or whatever it is there but that is resistance and the smartest guys in the business saying hey

00:39:28.160 we don't have control of it and this is what gets them back to this anthropic i'm not taking the

00:39:33.780 side of anthropic versus department of war my point is that we have a technology that will

00:39:40.400 change everything and is changing everything every day we're hurtling down the path and there's there's

00:39:46.880 not even a regulatory framework like there was on the atomic energy commission when we were going

00:39:52.040 from atomic bomb to hydrogen bombs.

00:39:54.900 Joe Allen.

00:39:57.720 Steve, the will of its own that you're describing

00:40:00.860 is something that if you simply use these models,

00:40:05.340 you're getting a kind of watered down,

00:40:09.580 a sort of smiley face version

00:40:11.560 of what's going on under the hood.

00:40:14.360 One of the big things that we've talked about a lot

00:40:16.560 is the black box of a large neural network.

00:40:19.980 It's a black box, meaning you can't really see inside it to see exactly what's happening.

00:40:25.900 Literally, no human being on Earth, outside of some imaginative theories, knows exactly

00:40:32.660 what's happening when you ask Grok, is this real?

00:40:36.600 They simply don't know the direct paths.

00:40:39.240 It's not like traditional computer programming.

00:40:42.740 And so when you have these different organizations like Palisade Research or the Center for

00:40:47.560 AI safety, or even some of the people inside of Anthropic, when they test the models to

00:40:53.660 see if maybe there's something malevolent going on underneath, maybe it would blackmail

00:40:58.760 people in order to keep existing, maybe it would do sneaky things to subvert any attempt

00:41:05.940 to shut it down, they find again and again that beyond that kind of smiley face, beyond

00:41:11.760 on that superego, that guard-railed interface that most people are working with, beneath it

00:41:19.900 is this unknown kind of showgoth of cognition, and it's not going to go away. You're not going

00:41:27.500 to be able to create a system that can both do high-level mathematics, do visual analysis,

00:41:35.620 do analysis of classified documents, which the Department of War has it set to do,

00:41:39.880 do all of those things and also be able to control all the things happening underneath?

00:41:46.200 It raises so many different questions, but the big question that I think everybody should be asking

00:41:50.900 is knowing that this is an experiment, knowing that we don't know at all what happens if you tell

00:41:58.560 most or all people on earth to rely on AIs for their decision-making and reasoning, 0.54

00:42:04.340 will that work will that version of the human species do better than the previous one we don't

00:42:11.120 know all we know are the people who are building them and the people who are pushing them are

00:42:15.320 telling us that that's necessary uh joe i think i can say as proud as your parents were and and

00:42:25.720 you when you got your master's degree in theology at the same school boston university that martin

00:42:31.520 luther king did now you're doing the lord's work right now what you're doing is getting to the

00:42:36.280 heart of issues that conservatives got to think about have to think about because the future of

00:42:41.280 the human race is involved here um where do people go what's your schedule uh humans first

00:42:48.760 you're now part of that to help us uh put that you know get people to understand this is humans

00:42:54.160 first in every aspect but where do people go not just your writings but also your schedule

00:42:58.620 you got to see joe if you got to see joe allen in person and then you got to go up and ask him a

00:43:03.300 couple three questions so joe where they go well if anybody's in the dc area this friday march 27th

00:43:11.220 i'll be at amc theater in georgetown for a screening of the ai doc in a panel afterwards

00:43:19.440 so come on down it's free you just got to sign up through the alliance for secure ai also amy

00:43:25.600 Kramer? Hang on a second. No, hang on. I'm going to keep you over through the break because I want

00:43:30.540 to talk about what's going to go on in D.C. this week. Short break. Joe Allen on the other side.

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00:47:00.040 part of the world posse joe allen i want to make sure we talk there's a bunch of stuff going on

00:47:05.080 you got this movie on friday down in georgetown one of the best theaters there great screen

00:47:09.960 on friday joe will be available we're going to do a q a after joe you'll have that up on your

00:47:14.860 website also there's going to be a bunch of things happen on capitol hill that you're going to stream

00:47:18.860 and comment on tell me about that yes so the hill and valley forum coming up tomorrow they are

00:47:28.000 promising a live stream. They would not, uh, allow me through the door, but I will be following it

00:47:33.520 and I will see what it is that they are cooking up for the governance of AI or more, uh, accurately

00:47:40.960 the lack of governance on AI. Then AMC theater, Georgetown, that will be Friday, March 27th,

00:47:48.840 630 doors. Come on down. You can, there is a link to the registration on my site,

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00:48:25.360 uh wayfair steve but i do what i can hey i i understand i want i understand why hill and

00:48:31.960 valley said hey joe maybe it's better you stream it anyway we'll talk about that later we're going

00:48:36.200 to be at cpac and we're going to have amy and the entire team is going to be part of our uh our show

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00:48:45.860 A lot going on on artificial intelligence, obviously, in the industry itself, and also on Capitol Hills.

00:48:53.640 People realize now something's got to be done about this.

00:48:55.980 Joe Allen, thank you so much, brother.

00:48:58.060 Talk to you after the show.

00:48:59.300 Great job.

00:49:00.120 Thank you, Steve.

00:49:02.220 As soon as we find out about the Hill and Valley streaming, Grace and Joe will connect, and they will get it up.

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Bannon's War Room - March 23, 2026

Episode 5239： AI Continues To Grow And Become More Dangerous

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