Bannon's War Room - July 20, 2026


Episode 5528: China Successfully Targeting And Interfering In Our Election


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00:00:00.000 Just in moments ago, the Pentagon identified those two soldiers who were killed in Jordan.
00:00:06.280 First Lieutenant Tyler James Feehan, a 25-year-old from Hawaii,
00:00:11.120 and Private Isabel Gonzalez, a 19-year-old from Texas.
00:00:15.680 President Trump spoke about the losses.
00:00:19.420 Well, we feel very badly, but you know, those great people,
00:00:23.380 those great patriots are out there fighting that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:00:27.520 And Iran has been very, very badly damaged.
00:00:31.640 They've lost everything almost militarily.
00:00:36.060 Where we are in Iran, because there are no glib, easy answers.
00:00:41.780 We can't cut and run.
00:00:43.420 The MOU that gave Iran half a trillion dollars is a nonstarter because they proved they couldn't even be bribed.
00:00:51.840 but it's going to be very hard to fight out of this corner. Where are we? What do we do next?
00:01:00.680 You can't really talk about their sacrifice without talking about where we are in this
00:01:05.780 conflict. And I think we're at an inflection point here. You can see that the Trump administration
00:01:10.760 is accelerating and expanding their strikes, now hitting military infrastructure, railways,
00:01:15.960 bridges, that kind of thing, trying to really put economic pressure on the IRGC
00:01:20.740 in the military there in Iran. The question is, is that going to be enough to force the Iranians
00:01:27.120 to the table? And you have to remember that the folks that Mr. Whitcoff and Mr. Kushner are
00:01:31.820 talking to are not the folks in charge of the drones and the missiles. The IRGC still runs all
00:01:37.180 the military there in Iran. So it's going to be it's an open question whether this additional
00:01:41.940 pressure is going to force them to the table. And if it doesn't, I can assure you that the U.S.
00:01:47.800 military is preparing for even more expanded attacks and a return to what they would consider
00:01:52.740 major combat operations. I don't think the president wants to go there. I don't think
00:01:57.620 those who may be considered moderates in Iran want to go there. But I don't believe that the
00:02:02.040 IRGC is particularly concerned about that at this point. That entire charade was when he released
00:02:08.660 the documents that said two things. Number one, the Russians were trying to influence the campaign
00:02:14.240 to help donald trump become elected president of the united states and number two that when
00:02:22.360 enemies of america want to disrupt democracy what they do is they start spreading doubt
00:02:31.140 about the fairness of elections again donald trump calling himself out i'm not saying
00:02:38.960 he's an enemy of democracy i'm just a humble you know as you know a state school uh a dumb
00:02:48.020 lawyer i'm saying in these documents contain intel assessments that if foreign powers want
00:02:57.560 to undermine the united states confidence in democracy then what they will do first
00:03:03.820 is they will try to undermine their confidence in fair and free elections,
00:03:08.080 which is, of course, against all evidence what Donald Trump has been doing since 2020.
00:03:16.220 So, Joe, this was an amazing spectacle, really, for people who didn't watch Thursday night.
00:03:23.820 The president was really, you know, almost shouting.
00:03:28.120 He was making the wildest charges about election fraud and deep state conspiracies.
00:03:35.440 It's the kind of thing that you see online in, you know, very intense blogs and sites.
00:03:45.840 But you don't hear that directly very often from the president.
00:03:49.380 But he said, you know, if you want to check this out, go to WhiteHouse.gov and look at the intelligence documents that I've just declassified.
00:03:57.640 So over the weekend, I took him at his work.
00:04:00.680 And I thought, OK, I'm not doing anything else Saturday other than watching England massacre France.
00:04:10.100 But I did read these documents.
00:04:12.080 And it's extraordinary, Joe, that if you look over them carefully, they rebut almost everything that the president said.
00:04:19.440 A key part of his case was the Chinese tried to defeat me, intentionally went out to defeat me in the 2020 election, which obviously he still can't get over.
00:04:29.580 He can't believe that he lost. So it must have been the Chinese.
00:04:33.320 And you look at the intelligence assessments that were produced, which he's, thank you very much, supplied.
00:04:39.500 And you see that the consensus judgment of the intelligence community was precisely the opposite, that the Chinese did not decide to intervene to defeat Trump.
00:04:49.780 They thought about it, but they decided against it.
00:04:52.080 There were a few analysts who disagreed and thought the Chinese had done more, although not everything they could have.
00:04:59.780 They were given separate space to make the argument.
00:05:02.280 It was kind of a classic snapshot of how our intelligence community actually works.
00:05:06.780 If this is a deep state, man, it moves at the speed of a snail.
00:05:12.560 They go week after week debating sentence by sentence.
00:05:16.760 So it couldn't have been more different from what the president was arguing.
00:05:20.580 And I think it was wonderful, a weird way that he invited us all to look at the actual material.
00:05:26.600 When he makes charges so often, we scramble to fact check them.
00:05:30.100 In this case, the president provided the fact-checking glossary right there, WhiteHouse.gov.
00:05:35.140 Thank you very much.
00:05:35.840 This has been one of the deadliest stretch of days since this war began almost four months ago,
00:05:41.160 really ratcheting up the cost for Americans, but also deepening the quandary for President Trump.
00:05:46.280 And the death toll does appear likely to rise.
00:05:49.020 CENTCOM saying that it's still working to identify remains that were found at the site of that attack on Jordan.
00:05:55.940 They say that two service members had been killed when they came under attack from Iranian missiles and drones.
00:06:03.980 We also understand that there was an additional death in northern Iraq over the weekend when a service member was working at a controlled detonation of unexploded ordnance.
00:06:15.920 Both of these incidents, I think, underscoring that Iran really does retain missile and drone capabilities that perhaps President Trump may have been underplaying over the last several months,
00:06:26.920 but also seems to have the ability to evade U.S. air defense systems.
00:06:32.660 It really comes amid escalating exchanges between the two countries,
00:06:36.360 both sides going after increasingly sensitive targets, including civilian infrastructure.
00:06:42.300 Last night, CENTCOM saying that it carried out the ninth straight consecutive night of attacks on Iran.
00:06:50.000 And I also understand from U.S. officials that additional American firepower is heading to the region,
00:06:56.100 including F-16 jets, F-35 jets, as well as additional aerial refueling tankers all now
00:07:05.080 heading to the Middle East. It's all, I think, led to some anxieties as you see these increased
00:07:10.560 in tax by the U.S. on southern Iran that perhaps President Trump could be preparing for some sort
00:07:17.380 of ground invasion. And certainly the president is at something of a strategic crossroads here
00:07:22.260 as he determines which way to go amid this escalating conflict with Iran.
00:07:28.760 Of course, these deaths, I think, just reiterate that the U.S. doesn't actually need ground troops in Iran
00:07:34.940 in order for positions in the region to be at heightened risks.
00:07:39.380 Those troops that are arrayed across the Middle East are now coming under fire from Tehran.
00:07:45.820 At the same time, you hear both sides not ruling out the prospect of diplomacy.
00:07:50.820 You had Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, say this morning that the door remains open with Iran for negotiations.
00:07:59.080 He said Iran had communicated, quote, directly and through multiple channels that they were open to negotiations.
00:08:05.000 You also heard the foreign minister from Iran, Abbas Aragachi, say that negotiations could begin, quote,
00:08:11.340 when you have achieved reliable battlefield and strategic gains, suggesting that there could be efforts,
00:08:17.780 even though they're sort of difficult to detect at the moment, that both sides are trying to find
00:08:22.180 a way to draw down before this conflict escalates into something that neither side is able to
00:08:27.700 contain. I'm not giving him the opportunity to resolve this. They're not opening this straight.
00:08:33.460 He faces bad choices. You've sat with chairman, with presidents in the Situation Room. What kind
00:08:41.980 of advice would you offer to a president who clearly feels he's just stuck in a terrible
00:08:47.720 dilemma. The problem is largely in Tehran. The IRGC and the moderates, if you want to call them,
00:08:55.580 are not communicating and not on the same page. And as you well know, David, the IRGC doesn't
00:09:01.300 have perfect command and control over all their leaders in the field. And so the difficulty for
00:09:06.760 President Trump is he's trying to manipulate this escalation in a way that, again, encourages the
00:09:13.660 Iranis back to the table. You probably noticed, or maybe you haven't, in the press releases that
00:09:19.120 CENTCOM is issuing, they're now putting in the hour at which the strikes are beginning,
00:09:23.840 and they're adding in the hour at which the strikes are ending. That's unheard of. We never
00:09:27.900 did that before. They're doing that as a message sending. I think that's what that's about. That's
00:09:32.900 about trying to encourage the moderates to get the IRGC on board. That's what really needs to
00:09:37.600 happen here, because until that happens, or until the Supreme Leader actually exerts some leadership
00:09:42.200 over the IRGC and reigns them in, I really don't think the president has very good options here
00:09:47.340 for an exit ramp. And I agree with you. He wants out of this. I think you can hear the
00:09:51.640 Secretary Rubio yesterday talking about the door being open. I think they really do want to find
00:09:56.580 a negotiated way out of here. And I applaud them for that. But until the Supreme Leader can get
00:10:01.700 control over his own system, I just don't know how we get there. How long does that take?
00:10:05.760 I mean, it could happen in a moment if the if the Supreme Leader decides to exert that kind of leadership or he's willing to push back on the IRGC.
00:10:15.860 But I don't see any indication that he can do that. I mean, it could happen. It could happen relatively quickly.
00:10:20.880 And I think they wanted to. You'll notice they're starting to reposition forces now.
00:10:26.080 CENCOM is already starting to move extra aircraft in. They are getting ready for a return to what
00:10:30.720 they consider major combat operations. And that could take this to a much wider war,
00:10:36.260 escalate it in very dangerous ways in the region. And then finding an off-ramp is going to be near
00:10:41.000 impossible. You think that once Donald Trump is gone, it's the end of MAGA? I don't know if it's
00:10:46.020 the end of that sort of attitude. I mean, MAGA is the closest thing to the modern version of
00:10:52.220 nazi party this is america's version it's the closest thing without the holocaust and all that
00:10:57.260 stuff that sort of mindset that's what maggie is because most intelligent people or logical people
00:11:03.980 when they get new information and if that information is is negative or not factual
00:11:09.500 then they change their minds with oh well i wish i had known better and now that i have this
00:11:14.540 information then i can readjust no matter what you the no matter how many facts and how much
00:11:21.660 information you give them, you give them about this presidency, about the policies, they don't
00:11:27.980 change their minds because they're really not voting for the price of eggs. They're voting for
00:11:34.460 white supremacy. They're voting for power. They're voting to have a preeminent voice.
00:11:41.080 They don't, they're afraid of, they've been co-opted by many people in the Republican Party
00:11:45.640 and Donald Trump to think that their failures are due to something else, the other,
00:11:50.900 the black person, the woman, the Latino, the immigrant, the migrant, that person is taking
00:11:56.900 your job. That person is the reason that you don't have the financial or career success that
00:12:02.540 you think that you should have. It's because of them. We want to take our country back.
00:12:07.320 That's what MAGA is. Monday, 20 July, Year of the Lord, 2026. We're going to kick off the week.
00:12:14.300 We've got Jim Rickards going to be here talking about the geopolitics of it all. John Solomon
00:12:18.640 joins me. John, we're going to go to break here momentarily. I want to hold you through the break,
00:12:23.320 but I'd like you to respond to David Ignatius. He's from the Langley Bugle, formerly known as
00:12:32.240 Bezos, Amazon, Washington Post. He's really the comms department for the deep state.
00:12:39.780 Addresses his charges that if you actually listen to the president's speech, which is the biggest
00:12:44.540 attack on the deep state or government entity in the history of the country, but if you actually
00:12:48.980 go to the receipts, the receipts tell a different story. Your thoughts? I used to work at the
00:12:56.740 Washington Post, as you know. I scored quite a few front page articles when I was there, and a lot of
00:13:01.680 David's colleagues used to call him David Ignoramus, not Ignatius, but Ignoramus, meaning he was
00:13:07.880 ignorant. He would write whatever talking points would give him. So let me give you two examples
00:13:12.180 before I address what he claims about President Trump, so you see the pattern. January 4th,
00:13:18.260 2016, excuse me, January 4th, 2017, the FBI cleared Mike Flynn of all wrongdoing. They
00:13:23.180 were going to close down the case. The next day, Barack Obama, January 5th, 2017, on the way out
00:13:28.360 the door, has a meeting in the White House to figure out how they can trip up and hang an
00:13:33.740 innocent Mike Flynn for something he didn't do. And seven days later, David Ignatius is the guy
00:13:40.720 that gets the leak on a perfectly legal call
00:13:44.660 between Mike Flynn and the Russian ambassador, Kislyak.
00:13:50.980 So he was wrong.
00:13:52.940 He was helping the deep state smear a man
00:13:55.240 who had just been cleared by the FBI.
00:13:56.880 That timeline is in the documents I've made public personally.
00:14:00.380 In 2020, he came out in the middle of the John Durham report
00:14:05.060 and said the Senate Intelligence Committee
00:14:06.960 he proves that there was a collusion racket going on between Donald Trump and the Russian
00:14:14.360 Federation. Then a couple of years later, under the Biden administration, the Justice
00:14:19.600 Department put out the Durham report saying there wasn't one iota of evidence. That's
00:14:24.160 his record. When we come back from the break, I'll literally address how he's an ignoramus
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00:16:19.320 Amazing spectacle, really, for people who didn't watch Thursday night.
00:16:25.500 The president was really, you know, almost shouting.
00:16:30.000 He was making the wildest charges about election fraud and deep state conspiracies.
00:16:36.960 This is the kind of thing that you see online in, you know, very intense blogs and sites.
00:16:47.520 But you don't hear that directly very often from the president.
00:16:50.820 But he said, you know, if you want to check this out, go to WhiteHouse.gov and look at the intelligence documents that I've just declassified.
00:16:59.280 So over the weekend, I took him at his work.
00:17:02.400 And I thought, OK, I'm not doing anything else Saturday other than watching England massacre France.
00:17:11.460 But I did read these documents.
00:17:13.760 And it's extraordinary, Joe, that if you look over them carefully, they rebut almost everything that the president said.
00:17:21.500 A key part of his case was the Chinese tried to defeat me, intentionally went out to defeat me in the 2020 election, which obviously he still can't get over.
00:17:31.160 he can't believe that he lost so it must have been the chinese uh and you look at the intelligence
00:17:37.240 assessments that were produced which he's thank you very much supplied and you see that the
00:17:42.680 consensus judgment of the intelligence community was precisely the opposite that the chinese did
00:17:47.320 not uh just decide to intervene to defeat trump they thought about it but they decided against
00:17:53.320 it there were a few analysts they thought about it but they decided not to we've got two gray
00:18:00.840 Our two graybeards with us.
00:18:02.300 Ricker is going to give us the geopolitics of what's happening in the Middle East
00:18:06.800 as we ramp up nine straight days of bombing.
00:18:09.960 John Solomon is here to talk about the – even David Ignatius, John,
00:18:15.200 and folks, particularly those new to the show,
00:18:17.700 David Ignatius, senior reporter and columnist at The Washington Post,
00:18:22.240 but known as a mouthpiece of the deep state, of the worst elements of the CIA,
00:18:27.140 always gets things wrong.
00:18:28.360 uh but i i want to directly first off he did make a point that i think is is missed what the
00:18:37.380 president did in the actual speech from the east room on thursday night was extraordinary that has
00:18:43.480 never been done before in american history then he declassified dogmas never done just walk me
00:18:48.780 through the first charge of uh ignatius that he was shouting uh and this is things you see like
00:18:54.380 in shows like The War Room, but online.
00:18:57.940 Go ahead, sir.
00:18:58.780 I was in the room.
00:18:59.580 He wasn't shouting at all.
00:19:01.820 In fact, he had a little bit of hay fever going on.
00:19:04.240 And so he was actually a little lower voice than normal.
00:19:06.700 It wasn't like his rally voice.
00:19:09.200 He was serious.
00:19:10.620 And every word he uttered,
00:19:12.340 I just want to point this out again,
00:19:14.120 the CIA, the NSA, the FBI,
00:19:16.120 and the Homeland Security Department
00:19:17.040 vetted and said it was accurate before he said it.
00:19:19.980 So when David Ignatius,
00:19:21.760 mouthpiece for the government,
00:19:22.800 says that the president was lying, he's accusing the foreign intelligence agencies of lying. But
00:19:27.420 I want to take ignoramus and morning snow job to a new place. Let's go to right where they belong.
00:19:33.900 He's exactly right. If you read the 2020 assessments, absent the fact that what was
00:19:38.500 removed from them, what wasn't in them, was the proof that China had hacked into and obtained
00:19:44.080 the voter files. That's what they say. But the second you realize that what the president said
00:19:49.080 and say in 2020, they kept this out of the 2020 assessments, but had they put it in, this would
00:19:54.420 amount to election interference. I'm going to tell you today, under the definition of the
00:19:59.260 intelligence committee's definition of election interference, President Trump for the first time
00:20:06.280 proved that China interfered in the 2020 election. Now, it wasn't in the 2020 assessments. That was
00:20:12.780 part of his story, but let me read it to you. Page three of the October 16th, 2020 NIC report does
00:20:18.380 something that the intelligence community seldom does. It gives us the actual definition for
00:20:23.160 election interference. By the way, a lot of the boobs in the media think that influence is a lesser
00:20:27.920 charge and interference is a more serious charge. It's the other way around. Interference is only
00:20:32.540 a part of election influence, which the intelligence community considers more serious.
00:20:36.660 But I'm going to read you the definition because it's the first time in my 40 years of reporting
00:20:40.700 I saw the intelligence community define it this way. Quote, election interference is a subset
00:20:45.900 of election influence targeted at the technical aspects of the election, including voter
00:20:51.840 registration. Just keep that pinned, casting and counting of ballots and reporting of results.
00:20:56.460 The president, for the first time, provided evidence that China was targeting and successfully
00:21:02.280 acquiring illicitly voter registration. The president actually proved election interference
00:21:08.380 by this definition on Thursday. And David's right. In 2020, all those buddies at Langley and NSA,
00:21:14.340 they suppress this from the report. Had this been in the report, they would have had to admit it.
00:21:20.740 But Donald Trump put the evidence that was missing from those 2020 reports. David Ignatius has no
00:21:25.760 response for it because he had to ignore this. He had to go on Morning Joe and ignore that level of
00:21:30.880 detail to make his snow job case this morning. Also, this whole concept that you could buy
00:21:39.820 commercially what you buy commercially cannot be actually manipulated it can be used for analytics
00:21:44.440 but not manipulate the reason they hacked it the reason they have this whole special unit of of
00:21:49.620 cyber hackers now coupled with ai as i warn people all the time is that they go to get the voter file
00:21:56.460 so they can hack it so they can actually manipulate this why people in georgia show up and they go
00:22:01.160 that's right i'm here to vote and they go well hang on you already voted and they go what do
00:22:04.140 you talk about i didn't vote this is what the ccp does coupled with the 278 000 illegal aliens or
00:22:11.660 uh aliens that are here non-citizens that are here that just in four states you notice uh
00:22:17.360 morning joe never discusses those two aspects of this sir you can't you can't because the figures
00:22:22.720 are too big for him to explain away uh let me get to a very important point about this i think it's
00:22:28.060 it's essential for people to understand what the president laid out on Thursday night and its
00:22:33.820 significance long term. Yes, you can buy election data. You're not allowed to use it to influence
00:22:39.980 election. The second you do, you're actually violating the law. But more importantly, what
00:22:44.620 you buy commercially is not what the Chinese got. Most states don't sell the date of birth.
00:22:49.200 They don't sell the driver's license. They don't sell the social security number.
00:22:52.240 They don't sell other personally identifiable information that the NSA and the CIA determined that China had on its hands.
00:22:59.700 And by the way, in 2022, China confirmed that a C&E, that's an exploitation expert, it could be a person, it could be a whole unit, unclear to me, and that might be classified still, so I don't know.
00:23:11.080 But whoever it was, they were directly hacking in and hacking the information.
00:23:15.880 That tells you that they went and got the data that's not commercially available.
00:23:20.540 That's exactly what happened in Great Britain in 24.
00:23:22.720 And Joe Biden charged the Chinese actor in Great Britain for hacking.
00:23:27.560 I wonder if the Trump Justice Department doesn't now go back and charge this C&E,
00:23:32.040 this person or unit that was doing it in 2022.
00:23:34.660 That would saw off the limb that all these silly media reporters are hanging on to this morning.
00:23:41.280 Yes, they bought commercial data.
00:23:42.960 Then they went and hacked the stuff that you couldn't get commercially.
00:23:45.880 And we have the proof of it.
00:23:47.520 And all of that constitutes and meets the definition of the intelligence community, what the intelligence community considers to be election interference.
00:23:56.720 Donald Trump, for the first time, did what the intelligence community failed to do in 2020.
00:24:00.800 He proved election interference by showing that China had targeted our voter registration data, just like that definition says.
00:24:10.500 There's two tracks.
00:24:11.640 Number one, and we don't obviously don't disclose you want where you're going.
00:24:15.580 But generally, what's the direction of the task force, particularly on this topic?
00:24:20.160 I know there are other topics.
00:24:21.300 People don't realize the task force is a broad mandate on declassification.
00:24:26.080 But just on this topic and at what point now they're talking about attaching the SAVE Act to a CR to force the Senate.
00:24:33.320 I mean, I'm not saying they're gimmicks, but I realize a brand and the team over the White House are trying to look at every alternative on the SAVE America Act.
00:24:40.480 But on those two things, directionally, where are you heading on this topic?
00:24:43.660 Number two, what needs to be done now immediately to make sure they can't steal the 2026 midterms, which is their intention, sir?
00:24:54.600 So first off, the release Thursday night caused more people to come forward to the task force and divulge new things that we're trying to get our hands on.
00:25:04.800 And we're working very quickly to declassify that new evidence related to elections.
00:25:08.520 We're looking at many other things.
00:25:10.340 if Americans want to prove all the fake news media wrong, all the people that you showed in
00:25:15.060 your clip this morning, tomorrow morning, they could just simply call the Senate and bring the
00:25:19.400 Senate's phones to a halt. There could be millions of people, if they wanted to, call the Senate and
00:25:23.720 say, I don't believe NBC and CNN and ABC and all those who told me there's nothing there. I know
00:25:29.920 there's something there. Pass the safe vote. Imagine if millions of people started calling
00:25:33.780 the Senate switchboard tomorrow and brought it to its knees. What impact that might have on all
00:25:38.440 these senators who haven't taken the time to learn what you and I are talking about here.
00:25:43.140 Third, I think when you listen to what Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen described,
00:25:48.360 you have fixes underway. If you can get these patches into the computer system, great.
00:25:53.980 If you can get new identity measures to make sure a Chinese person can't register with your
00:25:58.080 information or cause other trouble with your information, that's a great thing. And then
00:26:02.780 finally, I think now the Justice Department and the FBI have a new suspect, a new potential
00:26:08.600 defendant they could indict to create accountability. That CNE went unpunished because
00:26:13.520 it was kept out of the intelligence reports. Whoever that person or persons are, the Trump
00:26:19.080 Justice Department, the Trump FBI can do to that what Joe Biden did to the Chinese for hacking
00:26:24.680 Great Britain while keeping us in the dark about our own hack. Those are three accountability
00:26:28.860 measures that I could imagine happening in the next few weeks.
00:26:33.960 John Solomon, where do we go to keep up with all of it?
00:26:37.080 And you're still coming in and helping pin shit.
00:26:39.260 Amanda Head is anchoring the show.
00:26:41.780 You're coming in when you can.
00:26:42.980 Where do people go for all your content?
00:26:46.400 Yep.
00:26:47.000 Jay Solomon reports on social media, justinews.com is a website.
00:26:50.860 And I'm lucky enough to follow you every six o'clock on Real America's Voice with Justinews
00:26:56.080 No Noise.
00:26:56.540 I've made most of the shows.
00:26:57.520 I did miss Thursday.
00:26:58.260 I have to admit, I missed the head of the speech. But we'll be on tonight. We'll be talking about
00:27:02.200 David Ignatius and what a dishonest job these reporters are doing. It's shameful. If you just
00:27:09.580 compare how they covered Joe Biden's announcements on China hacking with how they covered Donald
00:27:14.340 Trump, you will see the double standard in hypocrisy that all those networks are using.
00:27:19.000 They're committing fraud upon the American people. Maybe we're looking at the wrong agency.
00:27:23.040 Everybody says FCC, FCC. I wonder if there isn't a fraud standard to be pursued at the
00:27:27.860 Federal Trade Commission. Those reporters are lying to the public using a public license.
00:27:32.680 I think that's worth looking at at the Federal Trade Commission.
00:27:35.880 Wow. John Solomon, you're breaking a little news here. We'll look forward to seeing you
00:27:40.680 at six and a deeper drill down on David Ignatius and the Langley Bugle. Thank you, sir. Appreciate
00:27:46.080 you starting here. Thanks, my friend. Good to be with you.
00:27:49.200 The task force buried lead right there. Other people are coming forward.
00:27:57.860 So there's going to be a lot of whistleblowers, a lot of new information.
00:28:00.840 Task Force continues on.
00:28:03.540 Bill Pulte, wild Bill Pulte, is continuing to hammer away at D&I.
00:28:09.280 Okay, we're going to pivot Jim Rickards, who's been kind of right about this entire thing, particularly the escalatory ladder.
00:28:17.080 Next.
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00:29:53.680 Welcome.
00:29:54.560 Welcome back.
00:29:57.100 The Morning Joe,
00:29:58.260 and the reason they kick off with this today
00:29:59.860 is, and over the weekend you can tell,
00:30:02.420 the mainstream media
00:30:03.620 and the Democratic establishment
00:30:05.740 and the radicals are absolutely panicked
00:30:07.920 by what the task force under Solomon,
00:30:11.840 and I've got to give a special shout out
00:30:13.720 to Bill Pulte because, look, Solomon's been doing this forever.
00:30:20.540 He's been doing this for 40 years, okay?
00:30:24.160 He's one of the most experienced guys in town, and he has deep connections.
00:30:28.580 Plus, the task force he's got around him are some of the best people
00:30:33.100 President Trump's ever had that understand the deep state
00:30:36.300 have worked inside the intelligence agency.
00:30:38.180 So he's got a task force, and they're grinding.
00:30:40.980 There's going to be more revelations.
00:30:42.280 There are more people coming forward, and you see how Ignatius has got to lie about what's in the documents.
00:30:48.760 I recommend you go to the documents.
00:30:50.160 The problem I've got with the documents, they're too redacted, but I understand this is about sources of methods,
00:30:55.020 and this is how the administrative state and deep state push back so you can't see more information.
00:31:00.320 But it's a start.
00:31:01.600 No president in the history of this country.
00:31:03.040 The closest it came, the closest it came was General Eisenhower, the supreme commander in Europe that had and then wrote the book Crusade in Europe about the ground war and I guess the air war too in Europe, particularly Northwest Europe in World War II, warned us about the military industrial complex.
00:31:26.240 that gets played over and over again now. At the time, it kind of went over people's head,
00:31:31.920 but he had seen it from the inside and warned about it. It's the first time a president
00:31:39.300 from the White House had ever sat there and say, hey, here's a problem. You have, and just what I
00:31:46.260 said, it's about who governs. Where's the center of gravity of sovereignty in this nation? Who
00:31:52.520 governs president trump's address to the nation on thursday night was historic and will be looked
00:31:58.840 at as historic now you have to take action after that um my recommendation on china is because
00:32:05.700 we're the leaders of the anti-ccp movement in this country they should immediately pull all the
00:32:10.540 uh all the visas for the kids coming here and study i mean we should do it for ai and you see
00:32:17.620 right now that the white house the access has got a piece of that the white house is starting to i
00:32:23.980 think listen to things we're saying about the ccp and what's happening with these artificial
00:32:29.340 intelligence models and david sacks and the tech bros the broligarchs are all in a tizzy because
00:32:35.700 they want it both ways they want to get the money for funding china and they want to have totally
00:32:40.180 no regulation to do do what thou thou wilt in this the uh but you've got to face reality there's
00:32:47.780 no messaging there's no surrogate program there's you know there's the war room there's a couple of
00:32:52.880 others that are driving this but the what evidence is so overwhelming that it's got legs of its own
00:32:58.980 but no official kind of response uh i think it's natalie allison at the washington post lead story
00:33:08.700 if you go to the website, is a story about the official GOP response to President Trump's
00:33:15.780 speech the other night. And they're hiding. And let me be very specific. She cites Whatley.
00:33:23.220 Whatley had a campaign. This guy's down in the polling. I don't know. The public polling's
00:33:26.900 going six, eight, nine down. I hear there's internal polling going worse than that. I can
00:33:31.660 tell you, talking to many grassroots folks down in North Carolina, there's zero enthusiasm. Let
00:33:37.800 me rephrase that there's less than zero uh enthusiasm for whatley he just hasn't initiated
00:33:44.520 a spark because they say this guy's not really mad guy now he was put in there because of
00:33:48.580 everything he had done on the election side in the rnc which was really nothing zero filing a
00:33:55.280 bunch of lawsuits that you lose is not action and in that they tell whatley had i think i think he
00:34:01.240 had an event on friday this is a guy that's way behind needs grassroots enthusiasm they did not
00:34:07.560 mention once president trump's address let me repeat that a guy running for the senate in north
00:34:13.620 carolina who is behind and everybody will admit behind and i think behind by a lot has a has a
00:34:21.740 an event and does and talks about community safety all important things very important things
00:34:27.540 but doesn't mention this the official response of the republican and this is the donors they
00:34:33.260 don't want to talk about it what they want to talk about is affordability and economics i keep
00:34:37.320 saying what do you mean talk about for it it's action people either know their lived experience
00:34:44.800 and it's either getting more affordable and the more opportunities and things are turning
00:34:49.240 you can't sell them on it you come out and talk every day about it it just it goes it's white
00:34:54.660 noise it goes in one ear at the other because people's lived experience is going to inform them
00:34:59.100 of what their beliefs are of uh of uh you know what the cost of living is
00:35:06.000 and nothing the democrats can say can change that that people are not like i just don't believe
00:35:11.640 people are are uh mesmerized or some it's been some sort of psyop so you have to talk about
00:35:20.020 issues important the issues that are important we're going to get postal up in the next hour
00:35:23.860 is who governs and what's the true nature of the enemy here now marco ruby and people are running
00:35:32.680 around now and that you know there's a huge story in politico though you know it's all about they're
00:35:37.540 going to scare them it's the scare them election because now you've got republicans jumping on and
00:35:42.160 they don't know what they're doing they're running around oh my god the communist is going to come
00:35:45.280 over take over tomorrow it's much deeper than that and more serious than that and you're not
00:35:50.560 acting like you're serious people. Why are you not acting like you're serious people? Because
00:35:56.060 you're not getting down to issues. To be competitive in a midterm election is about
00:36:05.800 turning out your base in droves and also getting the lower information voters that are part of your
00:36:11.460 base that maybe skips midterms to be enthusiastic. That comes from inspiring grassroots leaders.
00:36:18.540 that comes from getting people fired up one of the top issues is the stealing of elections and
00:36:26.300 you just put it out there that the 2020 election was stolen you just got to read the documents
00:36:31.780 and connect the dots and this is why what pulte's done pulte should be
00:36:37.340 kept his dni because i thought look i thought jay clayton was underwhelming in his performance
00:36:43.340 the establishment republican party loved it they couldn't get enough of it i just don't think that
00:36:47.800 jay clayton's going to make the change he's going to be confirmed and he's going to be the next dni
00:36:52.580 it's just about when that happens and i think you make a very compelling case you need pulte
00:36:58.560 is kind of the wingman you got a task force that's driving that's got people that are that
00:37:04.320 are seeing you got pulte who just happens to be somebody who is um who has instincts
00:37:10.600 for when you know stuff you can't coach he has instincts of what's right or wrong what he did
00:37:17.280 at dni has never been done before and he did it in three and a half or four weeks and so not only
00:37:24.320 is he a patriot i think he's put his life in jeopardy uh but he's just doing an amazing job
00:37:30.300 i hope and and wish the president would keep him there for at least a while longer a while longer
00:37:36.320 definition i don't know let me pick a random date how about through the midterm elections right
00:37:40.740 and i think there's got to be messing on the on the information the president had a historical
00:37:46.740 address i would put it in the top two or three addresses that the president has ever had for
00:37:52.480 the gravitas of content and i would certainly like to see a uh i don't know a messaging plan
00:38:00.520 a surrogate plan because we knew many people in the white house did not want him to do this i'd
00:38:05.860 also ask why is the white house not at the tip of the spear uh for changes that have to be done
00:38:11.760 in elections today what is holding up i think i know and once we know no because i don't know no
00:38:20.040 but i know uh we'll be making some revelations on that okay let's pivot now and by the way garland
00:38:25.640 favorito is going to be here so out in the hustings i've talked to all the people involved
00:38:30.060 in all the different states i'm we're going to get jim hoffton his team up not this morning when
00:38:34.360 we get hoffton his team up doing michigan garland's going to join us and others but garland today in
00:38:39.120 Georgia. Let me pivot to. So Rickards, first off, Rickards, you're you're you're you kind of know
00:38:47.540 these folks. You were there for a while. Your assessment of President Trump's address, the
00:38:52.420 gravitas of it. And let me hear your feedback on David Ignatius, the comms director for the deep
00:38:58.080 state for the Langley Bugle, sir. Yeah, I first agree with you that this was historic. You know,
00:39:05.740 The revelations were very deep, very powerful.
00:39:08.760 I think John Solomon did a great job of explaining it.
00:39:12.440 And by the way, John Solomon always does great reporting, but there are these little nuggets that are even more valuable.
00:39:17.140 When he said FTC, you know, light went on.
00:39:19.680 I mean, I've done a lot of litigation.
00:39:22.360 I've been up against all these agencies, you know, SEC, IRS, Treasury, FTC, or whatever.
00:39:27.940 And a lot of them are constrained, meaning IRS is tough, SEC is tough, but they have rules.
00:39:32.860 The FTC has one of the broadest mandates.
00:39:35.580 It's kind of like, what's unfair?
00:39:37.200 Well, you tell me.
00:39:37.880 But the point is, it's a very powerful agency.
00:39:39.920 It's kind of underutilized in a lot of ways.
00:39:42.600 So that was a really, I think, very telling point.
00:39:45.260 I hope the White House follows up on that.
00:39:46.820 But yeah, I used to drive from Langley over to DNI headquarters.
00:39:51.680 Nice people.
00:39:52.780 I wasn't sure what they were doing.
00:39:53.780 But the DNI was created to deal with the fact that in 9-11, the CIA had half the puzzle.
00:40:01.380 So the FBI had the other half of the puzzle, and they never talked to each other.
00:40:05.580 So they said, instead of solving that problem, they created another layer of bureaucracy.
00:40:09.720 So I don't know what the point of that was, but that's what that 2004 Intelligence Act
00:40:13.640 was all about.
00:40:14.680 But yeah, Ignatius is a mouthpiece.
00:40:17.620 I mean, David Sanger at the New York Times is a little better.
00:40:20.180 But yeah, they're just propagandists.
00:40:25.240 Talk to me.
00:40:26.380 You've had a number of called shots since you came in here about a month ago.
00:40:29.520 I say, hey, look, I don't see this MOU working.
00:40:33.320 I think it's kind of a travesty.
00:40:34.780 It does everything we don't want to do, like give the Persians a bunch of cash
00:40:38.040 and take restrictions.
00:40:39.520 It kind of ends economic warfare and goes and really depends upon their tender mercies.
00:40:45.180 That has not worked out.
00:40:46.320 You said, hey, look, the only thing you're going to see here is an escalatory ladder.
00:40:50.240 That's what's going to happen.
00:40:51.380 This is going to escalate.
00:40:53.060 So now that we've done nine days of bombing, and do I have, I want to play this clip real
00:40:57.060 quickly because i think admiral kirby uh i think he's got something we've been talking about with
00:41:02.120 you now for a couple months let's play the clip from kirby on morning joe the opportunity to to
00:41:09.000 resolve this they're not opening this straight uh he faces bad choices you've sat with chairman uh
00:41:16.340 with with the presidents in the situation room what kind of advice would you offer to a president
00:41:22.280 who clearly feels he's just stuck in a terrible dilemma.
00:41:26.880 The problem is largely in Tehran.
00:41:30.260 The IRGC and the moderates, if you want to call them, are not communicating and not on the same page.
00:41:37.140 And as you well know, David, the IRGC doesn't have perfect command and control over all their leaders in the field.
00:41:42.820 And so the difficulty for President Trump is he's trying to manipulate this escalation in a way that, again, encourages the Iranians back to the table.
00:41:53.920 You probably noticed, or maybe you haven't, in the press releases.
00:41:57.300 As we've said, he shattered the command structure of IRGC.
00:42:02.580 And you've gone down the food chain and they're actually more hardcore because obviously they have to impress their masters.
00:42:07.920 We got about a minute on this side, Rickards.
00:42:10.400 Your thoughts on Admiral Kirby, what he's talking about, and we'll hold you through the break.
00:42:15.660 Yeah, I think Kirby's probably right about this division between the IRGC and now it's a younger crowd.
00:42:21.340 They killed the 70-year-olds and the 60-year-olds, but they got a lot of 40-year-olds who were really post-revolution, meaning 1979, and really much more hardcore.
00:42:29.700 So I think Kirby's right about the distinction, but my reaction is, so what?
00:42:33.440 Ask yourself a simpler question.
00:42:34.860 Who's in charge?
00:42:35.960 The IRGC is in charge.
00:42:37.400 So the fact that there's another group out there is interesting data, but irrelevant because the IRGC is running the show.
00:42:44.320 But then you're saying, OK, we're going to hold you through.
00:42:46.180 I want your answer to this on the other side.
00:42:48.780 What President Trump is trying to do for a diplomatic solution or negotiated solution is deal with moderates.
00:42:54.840 And you're saying, although the command structure of the Revolutionary Guard may be shattered, they're still in charge because they control.
00:43:01.200 They ultimately make decisions because it's a military police state, correct?
00:43:05.440 Yeah, that's what we've been saying.
00:43:06.920 and we've said it all along.
00:43:08.020 That's why we are where we are.
00:43:10.260 Okay, hang on for a second.
00:43:12.200 Jim Rickards is going to stick with us.
00:43:15.160 And I've got Garland Favarito from Georgia
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00:45:00.620 this today here's your host stephen k band okay uh jim uh the uh it's um nine days of bombing
00:45:12.360 is going to continue on they're trying to drive people back to the negotiating table i think we're
00:45:17.620 now actually hitting infrastructure in addition to military installations they're expanding their
00:45:23.620 hits, not just in the Persian Gulf. They've taken out a couple of our troops in Jordan.
00:45:29.820 And people are starting to ask the question, why in the hell we have bases in Jordan? Why
00:45:32.540 we have the bases in Iraq? Why are we all spread over hell's half acre in the Middle East? It's
00:45:37.140 time to bring them home. Rubio actually said getting on the plane to go to Asia today to
00:45:41.560 talk to the Asian alliance that we're not the police. Finally, he just said, hey, we're not
00:45:46.620 the policemen of the world. Thank you, Senator Rubio. Since as Senator, you're one of the big
00:45:51.740 guys that push. We were policemen of the world. I'm glad to see that you're finally seeing the
00:45:56.220 light. So what is then the president to do, sir? Well, Steve, when you're out of good choices,
00:46:03.000 you have to go to the bad ones, or at least the hard ones, and that's where we are. So I'll just
00:46:07.420 go through this really quickly. The way you do this analytically is you have hypotheses and you
00:46:13.380 test them against facts as they play out. So there's not going to be a deal. The deal that
00:46:18.480 Trump would accept, which is basically the MOU, which wasn't horrible from Trump's point of view.
00:46:22.900 You reopen the strait, we stop bombing, and we keep talking about everything else,
00:46:26.640 panels of experts and all that. Iran said, yeah, we'll do that. They start blowing up oil tankers.
00:46:31.320 So that didn't work. The deal that Iran would accept is give us $70, $80 billion. We take the
00:46:38.300 strait and you get out of the Middle East. Trump's not going to accept. So it's not going to be a
00:46:41.700 deal for that reason. So then again, where we are now, I call it escalation, but where we are right
00:46:46.440 now with the escalation is a forever war. We're bombing bridges. They have more bridges than we
00:46:51.920 have bombs. We're going to run out of ammunition sooner than later. One thing the Pentagon did
00:46:57.000 that was really smart, I mean, there have been some dumb moves, but one of them was really smart.
00:47:00.140 China, we're back to sort of Mahan and Mackinder, but China has been building overland routes
00:47:05.980 in the heartland, railroads coming out of Xi'an and Chongqing to Pakistan and Iran.
00:47:11.360 And you can move oil by train.
00:47:14.720 This is why some years ago, Warren Buffett bought the Burlington Northern Railroad because
00:47:19.320 he knew they weren't going to reopen the Keystone XL pipeline.
00:47:24.580 And you just get tanker cars.
00:47:25.980 And so it's a moving pipeline on rails.
00:47:28.620 Well, we started blowing that up.
00:47:29.960 China wasn't happy, but too bad for them.
00:47:31.900 So that was a smart move.
00:47:33.380 But basically, you could take Carg Island.
00:47:35.600 But what's the point?
00:47:36.200 We have a good blockade.
00:47:37.740 The blockade works.
00:47:38.560 It has consequences.
00:47:39.860 But why take over Cargillin when you've got an effective blockade?
00:47:43.900 So that's what we're doing, but it's non-sustainable.
00:47:47.240 Again, you're back to refined product and jet fuel and everything else.
00:47:51.260 We're starting to run out of all those things very quickly, and you'll destroy the global
00:47:55.500 economy.
00:47:56.100 So escalation has a short-term feel-good aspect, but it won't work.
00:47:59.960 So when you go through all of that, what's left?
00:48:03.860 Well, what we're going to do, in my view, is my estimate based on these analytical methods.
00:48:09.020 we're going to take the HEU. We're going to go get the highly enriched uranium.
00:48:12.740 Because if you do that, and by the way, that's a high cost exercise. I'm not
00:48:16.440 making light of it. But if you do that, I call it Operation Aztec. The Aztecs used to rip the
00:48:21.820 beating hearts out of their victims. You rip the HEU out of that, then who cares what Iran does next?
00:48:29.940 But you're saying, hey, stand by, you're going to see a commando or Navy SEAL or Army Rangers,
00:48:34.640 But somehow you're going to have actual combat troops, special forces in there to get to go to go collect it.
00:48:40.540 But that would be that would be division level strength to have a security perimeter, Army Corps of Engineers, maybe the CBs, special operations, you know, air power.
00:48:51.660 This is not this is not this is if we provide air power.
00:48:54.620 This is not something America's greatest ally could do, which they noticeably have been kept out of this escalation of the war, sir.
00:49:02.160 no israel doesn't have the u.s does and by i'm not saying it's low cost to what we casually i'm
00:49:08.320 not even advocating it but i'm not an advocate i'm an analyst i'm i'm this is so this is what
00:49:13.500 in my view is going to happen because it's the only thing that can happen that will end this
00:49:18.460 and basically avoid a forever war the denuclearization part you've got a special
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00:50:45.740 Jim, I want to – this is a dynamic situation, as we say, about this war with the Persians.
00:50:52.280 I want to make sure that I can reach you.
00:50:54.700 I'll reach out to you later in the week for an update because you've been
00:50:57.840 unfortunately you've been dead spot on and we are where we are,
00:51:02.940 but it ain't getting better. Jim Rickards. Thank you so much.
00:51:06.680 Appreciate you. Thanks.
00:51:10.620 1776 a Garland favorito Garland. I'm going to keep you through the break,
00:51:14.200 but first you're, you got to go pretty far in the woods.
00:51:17.760 They hit Garland favoritos tripwire.
00:51:19.500 You just put out a fiery press release from Vote GA this morning.
00:51:24.220 We're going to get it up.
00:51:25.520 What pushed you to put out this fiery press release on a Monday morning?
00:51:31.760 So, Steve, we analyzed the coverage over the weekend, and we knew a little bit about what was going to be in the president's speech.
00:51:43.440 But the coverage, we had three of the networks that didn't cover the speech at all.
00:51:50.340 Two of them cut the speech, and then they distored.
00:51:58.520 I think we've lost this hookup.
00:52:02.680 Okay, we'll get Garland back up in a moment.
00:52:05.620 Garland actually used the T word.
00:52:08.140 That would be treason.
00:52:10.480 Pretty big for Garland Faberito.
00:52:13.840 We'll get him back up.
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