Bannon's War Room - Episode 5533： Grassroots Take Over One Of The Largest Counties In Pennsylvania

00:00:00.000 We are getting our first big test of how durable Donald Trump's election denialism still is.

00:00:06.680 And it's happening on primary day in Arizona, which you will remember as a hotspot for 2020

00:00:12.140 elections investigations that ultimately went nowhere. Today, three Republicans on the ballot

00:00:17.320 had either disputed or interfered with that election. There they are, leading GOP candidates

00:00:22.240 for governor, attorney general, and secretary of state, which, as you know, is also Arizona's top

00:00:28.500 elections job. So big deal. DNI Jay Clayton or the DNI potentially to be Jay Clayton. He was just

00:00:35.820 voted out of committee. Senator Warner said he had deep reservations about him after his performance

00:00:42.020 the other day in front of that committee because he wouldn't answer the question regarding whether

00:00:47.080 2020 was duly won by by President Biden. What do you make of Clayton moving forward?

00:00:54.980 well it's unsurprising given that the republicans hold the majority in that committee but i think if

00:01:01.060 he answered honestly the question of who won the 2020 election he would have had probably a

00:01:06.880 unanimous vote because all of the democrats on that committee wanted him to get into that position

00:01:12.180 quickly so they could push bill poldy out and so he just really fumbled quite badly and if he's

00:01:18.260 unwilling to answer a simple question like that in terms of who won a presidential election

00:01:22.780 And he seemed very frightened about, you know, saying something that was going to annoy Donald Trump.

00:01:28.780 You know, what can we expect from him as a director of national intelligence?

00:01:31.940 So I know that Senator Warner and others are really hopeful that he's going to live up to the reputation he had when he was in the SEC.

00:01:39.740 But I must tell you, his first time out of the gate does not give me a lot of confidence that he's going to actually fulfill his obligations as director of national intelligence if he is confirmed by the full Senate.

00:01:49.300 Well, the vote was nine to eight. So it looks like it was a party line vote with Republicans voting yes and Democrats voting no.

00:01:56.960 We've got Andy Biggs who wants to be governor. How's that look?

00:02:03.300 So, yes, you have Representative Andy Biggs, current member of the House, who was he's actually cited in some of the J6 documents,

00:02:12.480 the documents around January 6th that the committee put forth about what he did or how he was interacting with the White House,

00:02:20.320 as well as to try in Arizona to get what what we are basically calling fake electors to vote for Mr. Trump.

00:02:29.340 So he was very, very involved in that.

00:02:31.560 You also have Alex Kolodin. He is running in the the secretary of state's office, and he was one of the lawyers representing some of those fake electors, basically.

00:02:43.200 And then you also have the attorney general's race, which I think is a guy named Warren Peterson.

00:02:49.620 He has been very vocal about pushing against the current attorney general, the current governor, in cooperating with the investigations that the DOJ has put into when it comes to asking for election rules and from the state and things like that.

00:03:05.100 So it's three people, three people who are pretty, I think we can call them election deniers, at least two out of three election deniers, but who are definitely on President Trump's side when it comes to investigating things like 2020.

00:03:17.580 When you address the nation, maybe it would have been on Iran or maybe it would have been on the good news from the economy. But that election is, I understand he wants to remind people so that they don't do it the next time.

00:03:32.400 But I think the whole MAGA emphasis on the actual Election Day cheating, and now we hear from Mark Wayne Mullen that there's one million votes that were cast or registered voters that got ballots.

00:03:49.660 He says 250,000 non-citizens registered to vote in four Democrat-run states.

00:03:56.140 Yes, four states, a million voters. Any of the swing states, that would change the election. They were illegal, and they know it. But the issue I think he should say is, I'm not going to adjudicate 2020, because by the time the ballots were cast, the system had been altered under the pretense of COVID.

00:04:18.320 And now, what do I mean by that? And then he could just do the items that Molly Ball in her Triumphalist article, she's a woman of the left, said that, bragged that what they did, they changed the voting laws by going to lawsuits to district court judges and such, and in blue states to the legislatures.

00:04:39.480 And what had traditionally been 30% of an absentee ballot was renamed, rebranded mail-in ballots, and that was 70% almost nationwide.

00:04:53.180 And they brought in under the guise of COVID that you could register to vote without an ID, without a driver's license.

00:05:01.920 They would give you an ID.

00:05:03.120 You could use a credit card.

00:05:04.880 You could use almost anything.

00:05:06.160 But if you didn't have anything, they would give you one.

00:05:08.760 a number. And then you could vote that same day. You could be ballot heart. That changed radically

00:05:13.720 the entire American electoral system in one direction for the left. And so that's what I

00:05:20.420 wish he would concentrate on. I don't know if it was illegal or legal, but the way that it did it

00:05:27.240 altered the way we voted. And if you look at population increases, there's no way in the world

00:05:36.160 that you would get so many voters voting in the 2000s. More people voted in 2020 than in 2024.

00:05:43.740 It was just astounding. It was just a sudden rise of voters. And we know now that Mark Zuckerberg

00:05:54.860 spent $417 million to appropriate the work of the registrars in key swing states. And by that,

00:06:02.660 I mean, basically give them all this money to put drop boxes that couldn't really be accounted for all over their states, money to sue, to extend the balloting, mail-in ballots for us in here in California for 10 days, seven to 10 days, depending on each particular state that the ballot could be cast.

00:06:26.720 So it really ruined the system.

00:06:28.680 It really did.

00:06:29.420 we know what that means that that means 1.5 trillion given the world that we live in and

00:06:34.860 the disaster of what the biden administration budgets gave us not funding this department at

00:06:39.500 1.5 trillion i believe is the greatest threat that our nation faces either we invest in our

00:06:46.460 warriors at this moment of step change on the battlefield and growing threats or this is all

00:06:52.540 Just talk.

00:06:53.960 You repeatedly said that you trust the administration's handling the war with Iran.

00:06:58.280 We're now five months in, and the U.S. death toll has surpassed the withdrawal of Afghanistan.

00:07:03.560 Given that, at what point are you willing to put an AUMF on the floor or vote for a War Powers Act resolution to try and reign this in?

00:07:09.720 The administration is working very hard.

00:07:11.760 The commander-in-chief and the whole Department of War, they're working very hard to bring this to a resolution.

00:07:17.500 There's a lot of discussions about how that will be done.

00:07:19.640 We're all closely watching those developments, of course.

00:07:23.420 I don't think an AUMF is in order right now.

00:07:26.200 I think we need to bring this to a resolution.

00:07:29.420 Look, I think it's important for all of our international partners, is my personal view, to have a role in this.

00:07:35.600 I mean, we've got all of our allied nations through NATO.

00:07:37.920 We've got the Arab countries over there, the Gulf states that are in closest proximity to Iran. 0.71

00:07:43.580 Iran is now fired on all of its neighbors, and they're turning everybody in the world into an enemy. 0.67

00:07:48.240 And I think this is an important moment of history for for all of the world community to decide how they want to handle this. 0.99

00:07:54.900 It's it shouldn't just be America's obligation.

00:07:58.140 My view is that that everybody needs to play a role.

00:08:00.560 So we'll see how that develops. I think we have to allow the space to do that.

00:08:04.020 And I know that this administration is working around the clock to resolve that in a way so they don't suffer any more troop losses.

00:08:09.980 This is a great tragedy. It shouldn't happen.

00:08:12.520 But it is a very important, very important objective that I believe we've achieved to ensure that the largest sponsor of terrorism does not have a nuclear weapon.

00:08:22.880 That would be a disaster for everybody, and everybody around the world understands that.

00:08:26.280 Now we've got to wrap it up.

00:08:27.400 Mr. Secretary, I'd like to ask you to help me reconcile some numbers.

00:08:32.800 It's my understanding that this whole supplementary funding request is $87.6 billion,

00:08:39.160 and most of the funding, $67 billion, is for the Department of Defense.

00:08:44.140 Yet we are told the Department of Defense still has $75 billion in unobligated funding

00:08:49.860 from last year's reconciliation package. Is that true?

00:08:55.180 Roughly correct numbers, yes.

00:08:57.060 So you left some change on the dresser before you prepared to come for this hearing.

00:09:02.700 What's going to happen to that $75 billion?

00:09:05.560 Well, that $75 billion, there's plans and designs on that part of the rebuild of our military, which had to be undertaken.

00:09:11.180 And so one big, beautiful bill gave us specific avenues.

00:09:14.800 I'd have to get you the exact numbers of what that is left to be allocated.

00:09:17.280 Does it have to do with the war in Iran?

00:09:19.300 No, this is rebuilding our military from what was not funded in the past under the Biden administration.

00:09:23.960 So that's these are this is from 2026. One big, beautiful bill, which which helped move the president's priorities like Golden Dome for America, move away from all the woke priorities of of what the Biden administration was pursuing.

00:09:35.440 Give us a chance to start cutting these deals on munitions. All the things that we the president wanted us to focus on shipbuilding, hypersonics.

00:09:42.640 I mean, the Biden administration ignored hypersonics. They just decided to pretend like that technology didn't exist and we shouldn't invest in it.

00:09:48.680 They're our thing. I don't know what Lloyd Austin did for four years. I really don't.

00:09:53.400 The amount of neglect, the amount of stale thinking and bureaucracy, it was staggering when we took over.

00:10:00.160 So one big, beautiful bill gave us a chance to get caught back up.

00:10:02.360 Let me interrupt your speech for a minute, Mr. Secretary. It's my turn to ask questions.

00:10:06.120 I've been listening patiently while you made your presentation.

00:10:09.380 You estimated at one point that the cost of the war in Iran was $29 billion,

00:10:15.080 dollars, but then added a caveat that there was a replacement of munitions, for example.

00:10:20.660 Do you have a new estimate about what the war has cost us so far in this, the fifth

00:10:24.680 month of the first year of this war in Iran?

00:10:28.000 Senator, the estimate we have as of today is $37.5 billion.

00:10:32.840 And is the current activity, which we have been told about the exchange of fire back

00:10:37.840 and forth in Iran, an indication that that number is going to go up in the months ahead?

00:10:42.400 Some of that number captures additional O&M, mill pay, and other that would be anticipated through the fiscal year.

00:10:49.220 So some of that anticipates what costs would be going out in the future as well.

00:10:52.340 So the new number you've given me is what?

00:10:55.700 $37.5 billion.

00:10:57.600 And that represents the cost of the war through what period of time?

00:11:02.000 Through now for certain aspects of it, but also mill pay, O&M, other anticipated costs through September 30th, Senator.

00:11:09.780 I think there was a sense that the president expressed at the start of the war that the U.S. military power was overwhelming and would likely produce unconditional surrender quickly by Iran.

00:11:26.460 And that obviously hasn't happened.

00:11:29.520 Was it your opinion as well?

00:11:31.580 Did you feel like our military force could produce an unconditional surrender in quick order?

00:11:37.940 sir i won't uh with due respect i won't share my private advice to the president what i will

00:11:45.180 assure you and the american people is i always speak truth to power and offer

00:11:49.200 an accurate assessment of what my assessment is of both our readiness the plans and activities

00:11:56.060 that might be undertaken the associated risks and the secondary and tertiary considerations

00:12:02.260 and to go with those opinions or options.

00:12:05.080 Thank you.

00:12:05.840 So you feel like the various risks, that Iran could possibly close the strait,

00:12:11.500 even despite the destruction of their navy,

00:12:13.780 that the possibility of assassinating their political leaders and their military leaders

00:12:17.900 could produce a strengthened hardline and weakened reformers,

00:12:22.580 that Iran would have the ability to sustain its ability to attack sites throughout the Middle East,

00:12:28.240 that the initial requirements of the war

00:12:32.140 could surely deplete our basically high-end standoff munitions,

00:12:39.120 that this could affect our relations with our allies.

00:12:42.240 All those were factors well considered in this decision to go to war.

00:12:46.680 Sir, as I said, I won't opine on or share my private advice to the president.

00:12:51.580 Yeah, I'm not asking about your advice, President.

00:12:53.100 I'm asking you, did you understand these issues

00:12:55.120 or have these become revelations as the war has unfolded?

00:12:57.880 Sir, my job is to understand all of the considerations that go into the carefully considered use of military power.

00:13:05.520 Let me ask you this, then.

00:13:06.500 Yes, sir.

00:13:06.780 I understand why you don't want to respond, but these are all massive risks that seem to be poorly weighed in the beginning of this misadventure.

00:13:18.620 Currently, there are reports that we have hit the Banshee desalination plant that provides water to about 20 villages or about 10,000 people,

00:13:27.060 and we also damaged the desalination plant at Keshem Island.

00:13:30.940 Were these deliberate targets by the United States?

00:13:35.120 Sir, I'm not aware of those as being particular targets, nor am I aware of those reports,

00:13:40.120 and I'll have to go back and get back to you on that.

00:13:42.420 If you could, I'd appreciate that.

00:13:44.180 You are aware that infrastructure that civilians rely on to survive is not generally considered legitimate military targets?

00:13:50.640 Sir, as you know, we have a robust process which considers a target that goes through a system

00:13:56.240 that looks at a variety of considerations to include what you're alluding to

00:14:00.100 around both purely civilian or dual-use targets.

00:14:03.760 I have trust and confidence in CENTCOM that they're looking at the range of those things on a daily basis.

00:14:09.620 It sounds like you are assuring us that we will, the United States, not target,

00:14:14.800 even in retaliatory sense, infrastructure that is generally considered to be primarily for civilian survival.

00:14:24.200 So, as I mentioned, we have a robust process and, you know, we have the most professional military force.

00:14:31.240 It'd just be nice to have you say yes, because this is international law.

00:14:34.680 Yes, sir.

00:14:34.960 You understand the international law.

00:14:36.800 I do, sir.

00:14:37.460 I've got a lot of lawyers that help me understand.

00:14:39.400 Thank you.

00:14:40.340 Yes, sir.

00:14:41.860 Tuesday, 21 July, Year of the Lord, 2026.

00:14:44.380 We're going to break.

00:14:45.000 We'll be back.

00:14:45.660 We're through the looking glass.

00:14:46.800 Victor Davis Hanson joins us as an election denier.

00:14:50.020 Polly Pockets joins us in saying, hey, we've got to wrap this thing up.

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00:16:19.920 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:23.660 Okay, instead of talking about voter fraud and, you know, the stealing of the 2020 election

00:16:29.620 and what we're doing between now and 100 days from now, of course, there's primaries today.

00:16:37.360 I think Arizona, Michigan, some others.

00:16:40.200 Instead of focusing on what we need to make sure the 2026 election is not stolen, 0.99

00:16:44.720 we're back to the Middle East. 0.66

00:16:46.740 It's about opportunity costs. Let me go to McCabe. This is now, and to add to the confusion,

00:16:53.560 I just want to be blunt here because you got to be, this thing is not going according to plan,

00:17:01.520 obviously. Part of this is the horrible intelligence the president is getting.

00:17:07.280 Why is Pulte so bad at DNI? The CIA and the Mossad have given nothing but terrible information

00:17:15.820 and terrible. They've set up terrible choices based upon exquisite intelligence. The worst

00:17:23.720 intel in the world. And they're still pushing this narrative that the Persians are just all

00:17:31.100 set to overthrow the regime. That ain't happening. Not unless you break them financially, and that's

00:17:37.460 going to take a while. Persian nationalism is now rising because they think that they've

00:17:43.360 beaten the great satan i'm not saying they have beaten the great satan in their psychology in

00:17:47.520 their mind they think they're winning they didn't think that if people didn't think they were

00:17:52.420 winning the houthis wouldn't be jumping in on this to get a little piece of the action

00:17:55.540 houthis is saying hey the americans are stretched out now in the north arabian sea

00:17:59.560 they can't they can't cover us like they did back in the summer of 2025 when the houthis

00:18:05.160 gave as good as they got these are tough hombres like going into appalachia and fighting the scotch 0.94

00:18:11.260 irish up there on their territory same thing with the persians along those cliffs in hormuz

00:18:18.080 these folks have been doing this for thousands of years and they intend to do it for a thousand 0.99

00:18:23.000 years to come so the houthis jumping in should should not people should read that as a reality 0.99

00:18:28.700 check but all this you know assumes that you're either going to deal with this regime on one 0.99

00:18:34.900 hand you're going to try to take it down now in the confusion the original mou i think had iran

00:18:40.920 as part of the decisions of what's going to happen in Lebanon and Syria

00:18:46.540 and these other places, and that was unacceptable to the neocons,

00:18:50.420 so Rubio got involved.

00:18:51.840 Rubio's, you know, we got the MOTU team here,

00:18:55.600 which is kind of their structure is the Abraham Accords,

00:18:58.340 which I tell you is kind of this economic and business framework.

00:19:03.540 And President Trump just came out, I think, two days ago and said,

00:19:05.700 everybody's got to sign up for the Abraham Accords.

00:19:07.680 You must sign up for the Abraham Accords 0.59

00:19:09.180 because that is a business and economic solution for what looks like intractable vendettas and 1.00

00:19:16.700 vengeance of various tribal types in the Middle East that have been doing this for thousands of

00:19:21.940 years. And like I said, we'll be doing it for thousands of years in the future unless 0.98

00:19:25.180 they're replaced by robots. This is Rubio. So Rubio's got up there and he's gotten involved

00:19:33.920 and this is his solution. Of course, Israel and Netanyahu want to be a part of this and say this

00:19:40.520 can't happen without their active involvement. But today we're going to have the Christian leader

00:19:45.840 of Lebanon, a field commander, and President Trump likes it in Pakistan, in Syria, and in Lebanon.

00:19:52.100 He's got a certain type, you can tell. He likes people who have been, have a few battle scars on

00:19:57.820 him. And as he says about the guy in Syria, he's no choir boy, but he feels he can deal with him.

00:20:03.920 Neil McCabe, you're at the White House.

00:20:05.360 We're going to cut to the bilat, particularly if President Trump, if he opens it up to the press, which I assume he will, maybe not originally, maybe during the Charlie Kirk show.

00:20:15.180 But if he takes questions, because as Axios says, we've just gone through 10 days of intensive bombing and we're coming into a fork in the road.

00:20:23.540 I happen to believe that the fork just doesn't have two ways to go down.

00:20:27.240 It has a third or maybe a fourth, but we're heading down to a decision point anyway.

00:20:32.100 Neil, what do you got at the White House?

00:20:33.920 Yes, if President Joseph Aon commanded the Lebanese army from 2017 to 2025, he was known as a guy who did not involve the military and politics.

00:20:49.740 He wanted to build up the army as sort of that objective backbone of the country. 0.76

00:20:55.900 Now that he's president, he is asserting himself and that army as a tool of Lebanon's restoring sovereignty to basically make it the biggest, baddest militia in the country. 0.61

00:21:09.440 And that first test is the plan for Israel to withdraw from southern Lebanon and for Hezbollah to disarm and hand over their weapons and to have those sectors replaced by the Lebanese army, which will secure it, hold it, and restore Lebanese sovereignty. 0.68

00:21:33.720 Netanyahu, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has signed off on this plan.

00:21:37.800 President Donald J. Trump has signed off on that plan.

00:21:40.280 The Israelis are kind of slow walking it because they're hesitant because they want that buffer in southern Lebanon.

00:21:48.340 But Aon is committed and his pitch to the president today is back me and I will make it happen.

00:21:54.780 And it shouldn't be lost on people that this is a man who carries shrapnel in his body when he was in kinetic real firefight combat.

00:22:03.200 And he also grew up in southern Lebanon, and so he feels that this is almost personal, restoring Lebanese sovereignty to that area, Steve.

00:22:14.880 When you say Israel supports it, what Israel wants is the destruction of Hezbollah, not simply it's – and what's the incentive here for Hezbollah to lay down their weapons?

00:22:25.360 because this this means coming out of this mean today this is another multi-year engagement by

00:22:32.960 the united states of america this will not be agreed to unless the united states gives certain

00:22:37.540 wait for it security guarantees and probably money big time cash and security guarantees

00:22:43.060 just logical this is why this is the rubio this is the rubio neocon you know alternative let's be

00:22:50.700 the police he's he's going to asia saying we can't be the policeman to the world well hey yo dude

00:22:55.180 I'd rather be the policeman in the South China Sea and the Strait of Taiwan 0.96

00:22:58.940 where we're protecting those chip factories from the Chinese Communist Party 1.00

00:23:03.840 than once again in another excursion in Lebanon.

00:23:07.020 I think President Reagan did it best.

00:23:09.800 And they said the worst, I think the two worst mistakes of his presidency,

00:23:15.460 which he would talk about, first was the amnesty deal where he gave amnesty

00:23:20.260 and they didn't shut down the borders.

00:23:22.320 They suckered him.

00:23:23.020 He admitted that later.

00:23:24.280 He got suckered.

00:23:25.180 The other one was putting the Marines in the barracks there in Lebanon, of which the terrorists blew up and killed all the Marines.

00:23:34.100 And he had tons of voices in his ear right now.

00:23:37.440 You got to you got to double down. We got to triple down.

00:23:40.400 We got to you know, this Lebanon thing has got to be done. 0.99

00:23:42.700 And Reagan said, hey, how about this? Let's get out one war at a time. 0.55

00:23:47.140 Right. The old Lincoln one war at a time. I'm here to take down the evil empire. 0.61

00:23:51.140 I'm not going to get tied up in all these extracurricular activities that will just 0.98

00:23:55.920 suck us in like Vietnam. 1.00

00:23:57.280 They always start small. 1.00

00:23:59.060 So explain to the audience, in the way that you understand it, or the way it's been presented,

00:24:04.540 why is this not another open-ended American commitment to take weapons from some bad hombres? 0.64

00:24:12.900 The probability that Hezbollah is going to turn over weapons without big-time fighting 0.81

00:24:17.860 is zero, OK? 0.97

00:24:20.300 We just saw the Houthis. The Houthis looked around and said, hey, you know what? And the Houthis are bad guys, but they're tough as all get out. They've beaten the Egyptians. They've beaten the British. They've beaten the Saudis. They've beaten UAE. They take on all comers because they're like mountain folk.

00:24:39.180 and now they're choosing to say hey look i think we're going to shut down uh the entrance to the

00:24:44.800 red sea and we're going to shut down suez so why is this lebanon situation as good of this guy you

00:24:50.400 know he's a marionite christian he's got shrapnel he's a field commander uh president trump will

00:24:55.660 say he's from central casting because he is from central casting but does that make a difference

00:25:00.840 is this another is this uh are we looking at a president diem that uh or the military coup

00:25:06.960 in Vietnam where now you got the military guys in charge and not a bunch of politicians,

00:25:11.040 but you get sucked into a multi-year open-ended commitment to create some buffer in Lebanon

00:25:17.680 that doesn't make any difference in the world to the vital national security interests of the

00:25:23.100 United States of America, sir. The problem is the other option is to walk away. And so people

00:25:35.280 aren't sure they want to do that either president aon is presenting this as an option and perhaps

00:25:42.940 hezbollah can sort of evolve into shin fein is that's what hang on isn't isn't the option we

00:25:50.060 say walk away say walk away the option is to tell israel it's it's your it's your call we're out

00:25:57.720 uh this is you're you're not a uh you're not a uh a vassal state of the united states

00:26:04.640 right which they hate when i say that even in local domestic israeli politics you know

00:26:09.820 we are not a vassal state but if you're not a vassal state stop taking commands from the united

00:26:16.100 states of america the way to do that you're a sovereign nation so israel should make a decision

00:26:21.220 if they're a sovereign nation it's their fight it's not our fight and so it's just to turn it

00:26:26.160 over to the israelis and say you decide if you like this guy you figure it out with him if you

00:26:30.680 want to take you want to put general keen and general keen's back on fox and what's general

00:26:35.180 keen saying we have to have major combat operations when they say major combat operations

00:26:40.860 they mean they mean that little uh the the young private uh in the u.s army who just graduated from

00:26:48.220 high school in may of 2025 think about that for a second she graduated from high school

00:26:52.900 in May of 2025, and now she's among the honored dead of our military, okay? Up in Jordan. Why

00:27:00.440 are we in Jordan? Because of the Israeli situation. So why is it not time to say, Israel, it's your

00:27:06.280 call. You like this guy, go for it. You want to buffer, go for it. You want to march to Beirut,

00:27:09.680 go for it. You want to put Keane in a, make him a major general, like they made the Filipinos, 1.00

00:27:14.320 made MacArthur. You want to make him a major general and give him a tank column, give him a

00:27:18.760 tank column, and let's throw Tel Aviv Levin and Ted Cruz and all of them, all of them volunteer.

00:27:23.820 You can volunteer for the IDF, volunteer for the IDF, put a uniform on, get in a tank column,

00:27:28.500 and you do what you want. And we are just out. This is once again, once again, an open-ended

00:27:37.940 commitment to get involved. And I've been the one sitting there. This is not about Israel.

00:27:42.200 This is the same thing about Ukraine.

00:27:45.940 The Russian-speaking eastern border of Ukraine is not in the vital national security interest of the United States. 0.96

00:27:51.920 That's where we've got to put the chips. 0.96

00:27:54.480 The vital national security interest of the United States of America right now is making sure the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign actors are not in our elections, 0.92

00:28:02.840 electing people they want instead of who the people of the United States want. 0.92

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00:29:53.280 bizagano joins us uh frank we're supposed to have you on this morning but we went live

00:29:58.180 to the president's bilat with the president of Lebanon.

00:30:01.840 So thank you for coming back and make yourself available.

00:30:06.420 First of all, walk through, how many hats?

00:30:08.920 You wear more hats in this administration

00:30:11.340 than I think Marco Rubio.

00:30:13.520 How many hats?

00:30:14.480 You've got a couple of three jobs.

00:30:16.200 What are they?

00:30:18.460 I'm the commissioner.

00:30:19.480 I'm the confirmed commissioner of social security

00:30:22.300 reporting to the president.

00:30:24.740 I am the CEO of the IRS, working closely with the Treasury Secretary, and I've been recently asked by the Secretary to expand the Trump accounts and take it to the next phase to grow it to 70 million American children.

00:30:43.240 pretty big uh the pretty big mandate want to thank you for your service to the administration

00:30:49.520 the country and the president um i want to go to uh and if we put it up there was a story on

00:30:55.380 the new york post this morning uh that was pretty explosive uh you and the treasury secretary i

00:31:01.240 want to make sure i understand this there's a hundred million dollars has it been going out

00:31:06.360 to people that are dead and that you guys are finally cracking down on it can you walk us

00:31:10.620 do this because it looked pretty explosive. Yeah, well, that's one piece of it. Yes.

00:31:18.080 Treasury is the place where all control occurs on payments going out. And as we've created in

00:31:25.180 this administration task force and been maniacal about what was named fraud, waste, and abuse,

00:31:32.140 we found many payments going out their own way. We've created the control functions,

00:31:37.100 both at Social Security and IRS

00:31:39.940 and then have treasuring,

00:31:41.440 making sure funds don't go there wrong people.

00:31:44.080 This is one example of the billions

00:31:47.180 that have been partnered between Social Security,

00:31:50.640 IRS, the vice president's oversight of fraud in general

00:31:56.600 that's allowed us to eliminate billions of dollars.

00:31:59.540 But here's the perfect example

00:32:00.780 of a hundred million right here in front of us.

00:32:04.600 How can this, so the question gets to be,

00:32:07.100 before you got there and you and scott are cracking down just walk through the mechanics

00:32:12.800 how does this work for years that has not been exposed and not been stopped i mean

00:32:17.200 we're in a situation now you're putting a reconciliation bill up you've got the war in

00:32:21.960 iran uh the first nine months of the year treasury reports we have a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit

00:32:29.460 i've said from the beginning of the fiscal year i think it's going to be two trillion so it's

00:32:33.640 going to be 1-8 to 2. You have two tough mandates here. Well, first of all, the Social Security is

00:32:39.340 a different issue, but you have a tough mandate is to make sure that you collect all the money

00:32:44.140 that's owed to the IRS. President Trump's given you guys a mandate. Hey, I want to close these

00:32:48.760 deficits. Number one is to make sure that people that are actually owe the IRS legitimately pay

00:32:55.240 their money. How are we getting a situation that before you guys arrive, it looks like we've been

00:33:00.280 paying this out for a long time, correct? Well, we've been paying out money erroneously

00:33:06.860 for a long time. I mean, you can look at, we took the social security number database

00:33:13.740 and we've reconciled it now. We found over a 10% error rate. That means people on file in the wrong

00:33:23.300 manner or people who are no longer alive. And that doesn't mean they were getting erroneous

00:33:27.940 social security maintenance, but they had a live social security number that could be used for

00:33:33.060 fraud waste measures. Think about over 300 million people, a 10% error rate, that's 30 million we

00:33:39.860 corrected. And then you take that forward to what the great work we've done at Treasury led by the

00:33:45.400 Secretary to ensure we're not paying people who should not get paid and the ability to collect

00:33:52.700 money better than we ever have. This is a set of disciplines. We are not administrators. We are

00:34:00.400 operators. We figure out how to make the systems. This all gets done through technology. It is also

00:34:07.220 because with the vice president and President Trump's great mandate, it allows us to work across

00:34:14.680 the government interagency sharing agreements to allow us appropriately appropriately to share

00:34:23.940 information to stop bad actors i want to go in social security and looking at this you've got

00:34:32.660 two different parts of social security basically i think you've got one is for retirees people have

00:34:37.020 paid into the system and then a certain period of time they started getting those payments back

00:34:41.380 It started back in the Roosevelt, I think President Roosevelt's first or second term back in the 1930s.

00:34:47.360 You then got a disabilities section, correct?

00:34:51.120 How big are those two when you actually add them up?

00:34:54.020 Is the retirement part two-thirds or 75% and the disability are 25%?

00:35:00.820 Or how big is it as far as outflows every year?

00:35:04.440 It's really dominated by retirement.

00:35:07.560 Although disability is a big portion of our workload and really very important.

00:35:13.240 And all of this is about a technology-first agenda.

00:35:17.840 And that technology-first agenda allows us to be able to come through and change how we serve the American public.

00:35:25.140 I mean, the service American public is receiving now is fundamentally 96% digital, with 4% of the transactions happening in the field offices.

00:35:37.660 And that's a dynamic change from what was here before.

00:35:41.680 We have cut wait times down in field offices from the last administration to now by 30%, and phone servicing wait times by 70%.

00:35:54.680 All of that while cleaning up the infrastructure, we created a risk position that allows us to ensure we've collected billions of dollars that we wouldn't have before.

00:36:08.020 So it's a completely different mandate. It's a completely different approach.

00:36:13.340 And disability is now being also completely automated to get a better outcome.

00:36:19.800 We cut down processing times to all time lows in every one of these categories that ultimately helps eliminate fraud, waste and abuse across the board.

00:36:33.640 I want to go back to because I know the secretary had a problem with this at the time and the OMB guys did also.

00:36:39.740 And just to make sure you guys, it's going to some process that you're still on top of.

00:36:46.060 When Elon was at Doge, they had in presence, not the first State of the Union,

00:36:50.180 but you had kind of this because of his inauguration just takes place a couple weeks before,

00:36:54.880 and he gives his inaugural address.

00:36:56.820 Instead of a State of the Union, you have your first, you go there and you give your,

00:37:01.060 you talk about basically a quasi-State of the Union, but you talk about the nation.

00:37:05.940 And that, I believe it was that, he spent about two and a half or three minutes of the speech,

00:37:10.740 is pretty extraordinary, going through voluminous data provided by the first cut of the doge

00:37:17.260 guise of Social Security people that looked like it looked into trillions of dollars.

00:37:22.460 Have you guys gone back and looked at that?

00:37:25.000 And where do we stand in that process?

00:37:26.980 Because it looked shaky at the time, and it really hasn't been mentioned since then.

00:37:32.540 I know a lot of people have questions about it.

00:37:34.260 On that original three minutes that the president went through and started talking about people

00:37:39.680 125 years old 140 years old getting benefits have you guys had a chance to review that data and

00:37:46.700 where do we actually stand with that a hundred percent I mean what I was just talking about is

00:37:51.960 uh the information uh was correct there were records on the file and that's why I talk about

00:38:00.920 cleaning up over 10 percent of the 300 million uh records in a manner that's appropriate a

00:38:08.340 reconciliation that never occurred. The fact was they weren't necessarily or even collecting

00:38:14.900 Social Security bananas, but they had a live Social Security number that was being used for

00:38:21.800 other purposes throughout the government or elsewhere. We've completely shut that down

00:38:28.480 the first time since 35. That's when Social Security began in effect, that the Social

00:38:35.340 security number database which used to be called numinous a phrase that nobody would know had met

00:38:41.120 with an end of the social security number database has been reconciled to create a

00:38:47.020 risk position that oversees that and all of that that was identified has been eliminated

00:38:52.520 so let me just so what the doge guys found they may not have been getting social security payments

00:39:00.520 either disability or retirement but they were those those actual and it was pretty extensive

00:39:07.160 they all those were active social security numbers that were being used in other parts of the

00:39:12.020 government by people i think everyone was used but could have been and we did find many and we

00:39:19.700 eliminated it but we've corrected as i said if you think about it we've corrected over 30 million

00:39:25.420 records. If you think about that live number, the number one identifier of an American is their

00:39:33.200 social security number. And we've treated it in this administration under the great leadership

00:39:39.020 of President Trump as the most important thing is to reconcile a file that had never been

00:39:45.260 reconciled in 90 years. In reconciling, if those things were open, it had to be some sort of fraud.

00:39:53.240 It's just not, if they were actively being used as you guys would do it.

00:39:57.060 You know, it was used for many purposes throughout it, you know, throughout the system.

00:40:04.360 And we eliminated it.

00:40:06.180 But in eliminating it, did you also turn those people over to whatever your investigative arm is or DOJ?

00:40:14.200 100%. 100%.

00:40:15.960 And do we have any update on what's, because that's the heart of fraud. 0.91

00:40:20.260 When you have people, either foreigners or Americans, that are actually trying to game the system, that destroys it for everybody. 0.96

00:40:26.940 And we need to hold those people accountable. 1.00

00:40:28.580 So that aspect, you've cleaned up the rolls today, but are those people that were involved in that at all, even using it, are they being pursued?

00:40:37.820 Any case we had, we brought to the system and is in process or still, I mean, we have cases completely being investigated right now.

00:40:50.260 Ask away speed.

00:40:54.160 You've had some pretty big jobs.

00:40:55.940 When you took this, I saw you down in Mar-a-Lago at the very beginning.

00:41:00.340 I think you had it going for your confirmation.

00:41:02.120 Did you have any idea how screwed up these systems were?

00:41:04.860 I mean, coming from a very sophisticated money center bank, global bank,

00:41:08.960 did you have any idea of how screwed up these systems were when you took the job?

00:41:14.200 Well, no.

00:41:14.900 I think that what I also came to understand is there's tons of people within the federal government that want it to work right.

00:41:22.340 And I've been fortunate to have a good mix of political appointees with commercial experience and people within the system who want to do a really great job, both at the IRS and at SSA.

00:41:34.700 I mean, we delivered a great tax season, the best tax season ever, with the most change with 25% less people.

00:41:42.560 Um, so it's, uh, it's, um, rewarding to serve the country specifically under this great president and, and partner with cabinet members. I don't think there's ever been a team like this on the field helping run the country.

00:41:59.040 uh i want to say and uh you know i'd like the way frank did you said operators and i know you're one

00:42:06.740 of the most sophisticated uh and effective ceos in the country and really want this is what people

00:42:12.140 voted for for people for these type people like you to come in and work for president trump and

00:42:16.680 with president trump and for the american people and sort things out so we want to just thank you

00:42:21.660 for taking this job on and i know you got great people around you man but it is a it is a bear

00:42:27.120 particularly when you're going to get technology involved.

00:42:29.760 Where do people go to keep up with all this?

00:42:31.840 What's the easiest way to find out what you're working on every day?

00:42:35.340 The website, social media, what do you got?

00:42:38.140 I mean, you know, we put out every day at SSA information.

00:42:44.480 I think come watch us on X, look at what's going on at SSA,

00:42:48.880 look at what's going on at IRS.

00:42:50.960 Every day is innovation happening, and, you know,

00:42:53.520 I'll make sure that we're always talking.

00:42:57.120 Frank, thank you so much.

00:42:58.420 When we supported Scott Besant in his confirmation and even the selection and kind of the fight we had before that to support Scott,

00:43:05.440 he promised to bring the best and the brightest over there to Treasury and the other affiliate entities like Social Security and IRS.

00:43:11.900 And in your case, he did it, sir.

00:43:13.880 Thank you so much. And thank you for sharing this on the world. I really appreciate you.

00:43:17.920 Thank you.

00:43:20.920 Frank was going to be on this morning, but because we went to the Oval for the Buy Labs, really great teams able to come back.

00:43:27.120 big deal, they're getting to the bottom of the corruption.

00:43:30.320 Just got to make sure we're prosecuting all those people.

00:43:33.380 Pretty scary.

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00:45:05.260 positive things this afternoon since it's been a day of kind of let's say not stick not on message

00:45:13.920 um glenn's story is glenn we got glenn now we had mary joe costello we're going to have the

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00:45:26.580 uh i keep saying this is why tax network usa these guys have a mandate he just said it right there

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00:45:41.820 president trump this is aspirational about president trump wanting to uh do away with

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00:46:03.580 gotta send their navies the the arabs gotta start writing checks the israelis gotta start writing

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00:46:28.180 go check it out you just heard from the head of it they got a mandate we got massive deficits

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00:46:48.660 866-513-5516 check it out today glenn story another upbeat guy talk to me about uh before

00:46:56.640 we talk about the company the grassroots down in in texas where are we we got to hold texas

00:47:02.400 against this Islamic invasion, but also in this Senate race, I think the Democrat is starting to

00:47:08.560 be exposed as kind of radical, sir. You think? Look, he's as radical and as nuts. I just don't

00:47:18.500 know that there's much going on in between his ears, to be blunt. I mean, look, he says,

00:47:23.560 I don't like meat. One day we're a meatless campaign. The next day you see him chomping on

00:47:27.920 a turkey leg you know it's like he just he'll say anything to get elected

00:47:33.180 and people notice that that it's you know he's like you said he has this history of saying i'm

00:47:41.400 a vegan uh we longhorns are adding to uh climate change that people eat steaks eat beef are

00:47:50.300 destroying the planet and then when he's outed with this old video next thing he looks like some

00:47:54.880 savage looks like a viking chewing on a turkey leg at a at a golden corral right with a big

00:48:01.900 plate of beef and potatoes yeah are people in texas starting to understand this guy's a total

00:48:07.260 phony yeah a viking really looked like a man back then you know the big beard and everything

00:48:13.180 uh he might look like a young viking you know and anyway uh you know i'm not going to talk about

00:48:19.740 somebody's looks i'm going to talk about his politics i think they're as bad as they possibly

00:48:24.600 could be. I think he is being outed. You know, they were saying he's Beto 0.3. No chance. He's

00:48:31.580 Beto times 0.1, if that. And they've picked the wrong candidate yet again. And it's just,

00:48:41.040 people are seeing it. You know, you're starting to see biblical scriptures. You know, God is not

00:48:45.700 binary. Okay, well, here's the scriptures. You know, there's so many things that he's talked

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Bannon's War Room - July 21, 2026

Episode 5533： Grassroots Take Over One Of The Largest Counties In Pennsylvania

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