Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1051： Stopping The Steal Of 2026 By Getting To The Bottom Of 2020

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00:00:30.000 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:36.720 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:40.800 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:44.080 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:51.920 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:59.360 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:01:07.680 it's monday 20 july year of early 2026 we're on the eve of the primary out in the great state

00:01:16.640 of arizona i think it's on the 21st i've asked christina bob uh to join us uh working for tom

00:01:24.240 Fitton's group and doing great work over there, Judicial Watch, one of the finest, if not the

00:01:29.600 finest pound-for-pound institution we have. Christina, the Guardian newspaper is literally

00:01:36.440 in meltdown today. And the headline, if we, Denver, if we can get it up, the headline is

00:01:42.780 of the Guardian, Arizona's Republican elections brawl raises fears over midterms, denialism,

00:01:50.800 Trump, quote, the biggest threat is the president. And the headline, experts warn election doubts

00:01:57.900 could bubble up again in November, despite truce in bitter power struggle. No one knows Arizona,

00:02:06.200 I think, as well as you. You've been involved. You've been involved there for quite a while and

00:02:12.100 really have done a great job in trying to fight for free and fair elections and to represent the

00:02:17.700 president you were one time the president's lawyer what does this article mean what what is actually

00:02:23.000 going on and why is the guard if the guardians in meltdown that means we're winning right so what's

00:02:29.220 going on yeah i mean if you ever wanted to call a headline a snowflake headline that would be it

00:02:36.720 yes i mean this brawl that they want to call it technically the settlement is favors conservatives

00:02:43.360 but I would personally, I still don't think it's that great, but it is a win. So if folks remember

00:02:48.820 back in 2022, Stephen Richer was the Maricopa County recorder. He pretended to be the recorder

00:02:56.900 in 2020, but he didn't get elected until 2021, but he still went and testified before Congress,

00:03:01.320 run the January 6th committee, and he was very anti-MAGA, anti-America First, but he was a

00:03:06.020 Republican. So come 2024, during his reelection cycle, conservatives went hard against him and

00:03:12.840 put up an America First MAGA candidate, Justin Heap, to primary Stephen Richer to get him out

00:03:18.120 because conservatives in the state hated him. And Justin Heap won. Well, in the time period between

00:03:24.100 Justin Heap taking office and Stephen Richer leaving office, the Maricopa County Board of

00:03:28.680 Supervisors, which is four Republicans and one Democrat, I mean, this is done by Republicans,

00:03:33.980 they actually changed Maricopa County election procedure to take all of the responsibility

00:03:38.760 away from the recorder and give it to the board themselves. And so Justin Heap just had this

00:03:44.460 mammoth victory and suddenly he has no authority to do anything now. And so he sues, he sues and

00:03:50.100 says, you know, you shouldn't have taken my authority away. And that lawsuit has been going

00:03:53.800 on for a year and a half since the 2024 election. Just last week, I believe it was last week,

00:03:58.860 they settled and he got a lot of his budget back. He got about $20 million back for the election.

00:04:05.080 He got a lot of the authority back, not all of it though. And that's the part where I go,

00:04:08.760 yeah, it's a victory, but it's not as good of a victory as it could be because Justin Heap doesn't

00:04:14.960 have as much authority as the recorder did in 2020 or even as Richard did in 2022. So they ended up

00:04:20.720 splitting the baby. And I can tell you the way they divided it is the recorder is going to handle

00:04:24.940 voter registration, signature verification, and early in-person voting. And then the board of

00:04:31.420 supervisors is going to handle election day voting, tabulation of votes, and emergency voting

00:04:36.640 operations. So personally, I don't love the idea that Maricopa County Board of Supervisors is now

00:04:42.400 responsible for the tabulation. But hang on, you've given the power, if it's in-person voting

00:04:49.160 on game day, and essentially the tabulations from the, wait for it, the machines, right,

00:04:54.940 the mail-in ballots, they really have, it's a two-thirds, one-third, they have two-thirds of

00:04:59.800 the power, correct, of the real power to determine who actually wins these elections.

00:05:04.840 Yeah, they're the ref that gets to call it.

00:05:07.580 So that's why I don't love it.

00:05:08.880 I mean, it's being touted as a win because he got $20 million back and he has a lot more

00:05:13.920 authority than zero.

00:05:15.780 But, you know, I don't trust the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

00:05:20.180 And I'm not sure that the saving grace to all of this is I think they're incompetent

00:05:24.500 enough to possibly accidentally do it correctly, if that makes sense.

00:05:29.100 I don't think they're smart enough to actually, you know, figure it out. 0.96

00:05:33.760 I think they're incompetent, but I think they're malignant. 0.98

00:05:35.440 Let's just go through it again. 0.98

00:05:37.360 Yeah.

00:05:37.880 What is the recorder used to have all this power?

00:05:41.900 Yeah, these all used to be under the recorder.

00:05:44.600 What does the recorder have, which is a MAGA-supported recorder?

00:05:49.460 What power does he have now?

00:05:52.380 So he's going to handle voter registration, signature verification.

00:05:55.920 So that's all the mail-in votes.

00:05:58.280 It's going to be his responsibility to ensure that the mail-in ballots are legitimate ballots.

00:06:01.660 and early in-person voting.

00:06:04.020 So everything before Election Day

00:06:05.700 and then everything Election Day and after is the board.

00:06:12.980 And when you say tabulators, you mean the machines?

00:06:17.760 Yeah, I mean the machines.

00:06:19.300 I mean all of it.

00:06:20.160 The tabulation of votes,

00:06:22.640 that authority is with the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

00:06:27.140 Why would HEAP, why would they settle for this?

00:06:31.440 Why wouldn't they go all the way and just go to the conclusion of the lawsuit and take it all the way up to the Arizona Supreme Court if they had to?

00:06:38.760 Why would they settle for one-third, it seems to me, one-third of the power?

00:06:43.040 I don't think that's a win.

00:06:44.320 That's a quasi-win, right?

00:06:45.600 Partial win.

00:06:46.800 Yeah, it is.

00:06:48.020 Why would they take it all the way?

00:06:49.920 Well, my guess is he wanted some authority before the election.

00:06:52.740 I mean, this is really his first election as the recorder, and at least for now.

00:06:56.940 Now he has something he can do, and he can have a big role in the mail-in ballots, which, as you know, the mail-in ballots in Arizona are a very big deal.

00:07:05.340 So he does have that going for him.

00:07:08.460 He probably wanted to be able to do something.

00:07:10.880 You know, he's like, hey, I got elected to try to secure elections, and at the moment I have no authority.

00:07:14.700 But all these, the way they've centralized everything, one of the big problems there, they've gone from precincts and districts, they've centralized everything.

00:07:22.480 This is why you had the fiasco under Kerry Lake.

00:07:25.280 Of course, that was all. They were stealing that on game day and with the machines, obviously the mail-in ballots, too.

00:07:31.600 But why would you ever allow? And these are not Republicans.

00:07:35.780 They are they're certainly not MAGA and they don't support the president.

00:07:41.040 Right. This kind of this election board.

00:07:44.400 Why would why would we allow these people to have this power?

00:07:47.780 Because this power is enough to actually divert the elections just like they did before.

00:07:52.460 Yeah, it is. Hopefully, Justin Heap has enough position on the mail-in ballots and early voting

00:08:01.900 to kind of hold their feet to the fire. I mean, I don't have a great answer to that. That is all

00:08:07.060 possible. Arizona's elections are a mess. They have not been corrected. And we're kind of looking 0.96

00:08:12.960 at this group of Republicans going, are you going to allow Republican elections to be stolen? And

00:08:19.580 thus far for the last few cycles, the answer has been yes. So are they going to change their mind?

00:08:25.320 There is a saving grace that some of the Republicans that are on the board now are

00:08:29.560 new. They're different than the people that passed this law two years ago. Debbie Lesko is now

00:08:34.160 on the board. She used to be in Congress. She was in Congress during the 2020 election. So

00:08:37.880 there's a couple new players in that position. I do think it's worth pointing out though. I love

00:08:42.360 to point this out. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, four of the five are Republican,

00:08:46.940 Meaning at the lowest level, at the county level, that's just the county, districts within the county, 80% are going Republican.

00:08:54.980 That is how red Maricopa County is.

00:08:57.840 And yet for statewide races, Maricopa County always swings blue.

00:09:02.060 So that means that the voters who 80% vote for Republican supervisors are apparently switching their vote for the top of the ticket, which I find hard to believe.

00:09:13.180 It was such a fiasco last time.

00:09:16.800 Why is the Guardian in meltdown?

00:09:19.100 Because the Guardian thinks that a settlement that gives Justin Heap any power whatsoever

00:09:23.800 is setting up for a big MAGA brawl?

00:09:26.900 Yeah, either that or they have no idea what's actually happening,

00:09:31.540 or they just want to gaslight people and lead people to believe that the sky is falling.

00:09:35.740 And quite honestly, nothing, I don't think it's that significant of a change.

00:09:40.380 To your point, I would have liked to see a bigger change to revert back to the way it was in 2020 and 2022.

00:09:45.680 too. But I don't know. There are a bunch of liberals that are crying about stuff that doesn't

00:09:51.260 have that much to do with anything. So as you can assess it right now,

00:09:56.460 where do you think we stand for the midterm elections in Maricopa County, which is what,

00:10:01.760 75 percent, two thirds of the vote in all the state of Arizona?

00:10:05.600 Well, having Justin Heap in there, I think, is a really good thing. He is very America first. He

00:10:09.520 is pro-election security, election integrity. That's a huge improvement from the people that

00:10:15.440 were in office prior to him. And so just having that, I think, is a really, really good thing

00:10:19.840 because at the very least he can raise alarms and he can call out things that aren't going the way

00:10:25.160 that they're supposed to be going according to procedure or according to law. So I think they're

00:10:29.280 in better shape for that just because they have different people in there. But then you've also

00:10:34.240 got Adrian Fontes and he's now the secretary of state who's pro allowing illegal immigrants to 0.65

00:10:41.480 vote and their voter rolls are a mess. So the security of Arizona's election, I think, is a

00:10:48.000 mess. I'll be curious to see the execution of it because that's kind of the question. I think

00:10:53.600 Arizona's a mess. Does Heap have enough time or now with the settlement, does he have the mandate

00:10:59.900 to actually clean up the voter rolls or is this another thing that's going to take a couple of

00:11:03.760 years? Yeah, well, he can't do anything about the voter rolls now at this point. I think early

00:11:07.680 voting has already started or is about to start in the next few weeks. So that's not going to

00:11:11.180 change before this election. But he can verify signatures. Now he's got $20 million to do it.

00:11:18.580 He can try to match signatures and make sure that the votes are actually from a lawfully

00:11:24.640 registered voter. He does have some ability that he didn't have before. And that's why it's a win,

00:11:32.000 right? That's why liberals are melting down going, oh, he shouldn't have any ability to

00:11:35.120 check voter rolls. He has some, not as much as I'd like him to have, but he does have some.

00:11:41.180 Okay. Judicial Watch has been at the forefront of these revelations that President Trump made in this historic speech last Thursday, particularly things like the Chinese Communist Party, you know, getting into the voter rolls, cyber hacking to manipulate.

00:11:55.200 You had the 278,000 illegal aliens and or non-citizens aliens just on the rolls of four states.

00:12:03.720 So you extrapolate that out. You get into the millions.

00:12:06.200 your sense that, like, Fox News, you know, besides Tom Fitton, yourself, 0.54

00:12:12.300 Cleta Mitchell, and a handful of others, the, what do I say, the rhino media establishment

00:12:20.260 of the Republican Party has not wanted to touch this. Your thoughts on that?

00:12:23.620 Yeah. I think they're either scared because of all the craziness that happened in 2020,

00:12:29.660 or they're in on it. I mean, the only reason you want to cover up the fact that our elections

00:12:34.260 are not secure is because you're in with the people who are cheating so and and people like

00:12:41.440 say oh democrats are so bad they cheat they cheat they cheat which i think they do republicans do

00:12:46.400 too and i don't think they're as good at it i don't think they have the system in place the

00:12:50.200 way democrats do to do it but but they they do as well um so i i don't know i think there's a lot

00:12:57.080 of republicans that are just as shady and just as dirty as democrats but but they do it in red 0.85

00:13:02.420 States. You've been involved in, yes, you've been involved, not just Arizona, but also Georgia. 0.97

00:13:07.060 It is shocking that the establishment in Georgia is given the fact that we had to raid Fulton

00:13:13.520 County. You had to get, the FBI was there. DNI was there and DNI, Bill Pulte obviously replaced

00:13:19.960 Tulsi, at least for a while. He was the one that did these revelations. Fulton County is in

00:13:25.400 Maricopa County. They were kind of ground zero in this entire debacle. And you don't have Kemp

00:13:31.700 or any of the Republicans establishment at all

00:13:33.560 talking at all what the president said on Thursday night.

00:13:36.360 I mean, how can we justify that?

00:13:38.080 How can a group of Republicans that control the state

00:13:40.700 look the other way when corruption is rampant?

00:13:44.100 The stealing of elections in Fulton County

00:13:46.680 is a cancer that is still metastasizing them.

00:13:50.760 100%.

00:13:51.240 Well, don't forget that Brian Kemp

00:13:52.820 was the secretary of state before he was the governor.

00:13:55.800 And he was the secretary of state

00:13:57.260 when they remodeled the way that they do elections in Georgia.

00:14:01.680 He was the one that brought in the machines.

00:14:03.460 He was the one that created the central count.

00:14:05.160 Remember the State Farm Arena with the fake water main break that didn't actually happen,

00:14:09.920 but they had to evacuate everybody, and then they counted ballots and people, you know, that whole thing.

00:14:13.700 Brian Kemp was the one that created that system when he was the secretary of state.

00:14:17.920 And if you go back to his website, you might be able to find it on the Wayback Machine at this point,

00:14:21.960 but when he said that he won the governor's race, it looked like a Joe Biden talking point.

00:14:27.280 He said, oh, I won with the most votes in the history of a midterm election, and it

00:14:32.000 was a very close call.

00:14:32.760 Stacey Abrams contested that election for different reasons, but still, Stacey Abrams 0.99

00:14:36.840 thought that she won that election.

00:14:38.640 So under questionable circumstances, very similarly to Joe Biden, does Brian Kemp take

00:14:43.780 the helm after he recreated the procedure for the election in Georgia?

00:14:49.820 And then shortly after that, you've got the presidential election with Donald Trump.

00:14:53.300 There's lots of questions, and Brian Kemp doesn't say a word.

00:14:55.400 He doesn't say a word. And Brad Raffensperger is, you know, doing all the leftist talking points as a Republican.

00:15:02.540 So, yeah, I think there's a lot of questions that I'd love to have them answer.

00:15:07.840 Do you think right now there's up on the Hill, they're trying to made in one perturbations.

00:15:13.700 And for the White House staff that's working on legislation, they're doing what they can do to try to have every type of I don't want to call them gimmicks, but they're, you know, now we're going to attach it to a CR.

00:15:24.500 They're trying to move heaven and earth to get the Save America Act passed against a Senate that's kind of dug in and treating President Trump as a lame duck.

00:15:37.180 Given all the merits of the Save America Act, we're burning daylight right now.

00:15:41.020 I mean, what is your assessment of the Save America Act and where it stands on Capitol Hill?

00:15:45.620 And do we have enough time if it's passed right now in order to implement anything, ma'am?

00:15:51.240 We're coming up on the deadline.

00:15:52.480 I don't know the exact deadline, but I believe we still have time right now.

00:15:56.520 But I would say to Thune, have a vote.

00:15:59.140 And Thune keeps coming out and saying, oh, well, we don't have the vote, so I'm not going

00:16:02.140 to hold the vote because what's the point?

00:16:03.280 Because it's not going to pass.

00:16:04.160 The point is the American people need to see where each of the senators stand.

00:16:07.280 Where do they stand?

00:16:08.580 And are these people that we want to replace?

00:16:11.320 You know, we can guess.

00:16:12.160 Is it Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski?

00:16:13.840 You know, you kind of know who the regular players are.

00:16:15.900 But is that them?

00:16:16.640 Is there more?

00:16:17.640 So I think Thune needs to hold the vote just so Americans can see.

00:16:21.360 And I don't know.

00:16:23.160 I think the Republican Party is struggling.

00:16:25.380 I think they are painfully unaware of how much the American people are frustrated with them.

00:16:32.280 And they think just because they're not crazy Democrats that Americans are just always going to support them and always going to get along with them and support them in their elections just because they're not Democrats.

00:16:43.660 And that's just not true.

00:16:45.200 So, yeah, I think they're kidding themselves if they think this isn't going to come back to haunt Republicans in the midterms.

00:16:54.760 Do you think that enough, if you've seen what the president's put out and other information that's coming out and just your normal work, has he laid the predicate for either a national security emergency and or an executive order that says, he just goes, hey, look, we're too late to implement the SAVE Act, even if we can pass it?

00:17:13.820 And there's no assurance now we're even close to passing it, given all the different perturbations the White House staff is looking at to attach it to CRs and to attach it to must-pass pieces of legislation.

00:17:25.060 Do you think the president ought to just take executive action on this, ma'am?

00:17:30.320 That's a tough one, because if we look back at 2020, all of the state governors, the Democrats, they all took executive action,

00:17:36.720 declared a state emergency because of COVID and changed election procedures and just forced mail

00:17:43.280 and ballots down our throats illegally outside the process of the state legislatures. And it

00:17:48.260 forever has changed the way we do elections now. And I think that's terrible. I think it was

00:17:53.260 terrible what they did. It was illegal what they did. And we got a terrible result because of it.

00:17:57.700 So I'm not a fan of that. I do. I mean, I do think our elections are in jeopardy. And I think

00:18:04.300 Americans are concerned that the people that they're truly electing are not the ones that

00:18:08.460 ultimately take office. So I don't I mean, I don't have a great answer for that. If our if our

00:18:12.640 elected leaders aren't going to ensure that the right winners are actually the ones that take

00:18:18.080 office, you know, Americans are going to have to get creative about what how to hold their 0.87

00:18:24.580 supposedly supposedly elected leaders accountable because it's delegitimizing our government.

00:18:29.660 right now where we stand on the 20th of july in the year of early 2026 a hundred days basically

00:18:37.560 away from voting and early voting i think starts on september 20th so it's 60 days away from early

00:18:43.880 voting what is what is uh judicial watch what is your what is your guys take on thing we can't have

00:18:50.180 another election that could call in the question particularly given this report the president has

00:18:55.340 what do you guys recommend? Get involved. I mean, it's up to the American people because our

00:19:00.680 leaders clearly aren't doing it. I mean, we've had record numbers of volunteers over the last

00:19:05.640 couple of election cycles, and it's going to come down to the volunteers. Even if you feel like,

00:19:11.200 oh, you know, I'm an observer, I don't get to do that much. Having you there as an observer is

00:19:15.820 incredibly important. And that's kind of what sounded the alarm a lot in 2020 was observers

00:19:21.640 that were like, wait a second, we're getting kicked out. They're boarding up the windows.

00:19:24.500 You know, the whole story, it came from people who were on the ground and could talk about it.

00:19:28.120 So, I mean, it's an all hands on deck moment where we need everybody who can be involved needs to be involved.

00:19:35.920 Where do we go to track you on social media?

00:19:38.640 What are your coordinates?

00:19:39.460 Where do we go for Judicial Watch on this topic, ma'am?

00:19:42.680 Yep, you can go to Judicial Watch and you can search our press releases on election integrity or election security.

00:19:47.520 You can find me at Christina underscore Bob on X and Instagram and truth.

00:19:54.500 Thank you, Christina, and victory, good victory out in, not perfect, but good victory out in Arizona.

00:19:59.780 Yep. Thank you, sir.

00:20:03.480 Mark Pulliam from misuse of, the misrule of law, I guess blog, website, news site.

00:20:12.660 One of the things we talk about here, we have the vice on, we have, because so many of the things, topics we deal with, I don't like it because I'm not a lawyer and I'm not a lawyer for a reason.

00:20:23.440 I didn't want to go to law school. I didn't want to be a lawyer. Deals with the law and particularly the radicalization of the judiciary, the radicalization of the big law firms, the big white shoe law firms, the radicalization of the law.

00:20:37.260 And that's one of the reasons we're in such a jam as a country, because we're a nation of laws and, you know, 80 percent of the employed people in Washington, D.C. are lawyers.

00:20:45.540 I want to talk about this article that you've given me today from your blog, Crazy ABA, that's American Bar Association Rules Exposed in Kentucky Lawsuit. Mark Pulliam, let's get this article up from Denver. What are you talking to us about?

00:21:02.240 Well, thanks for having me on, Steve. When you talk about the capture of the legal system by the left, it all starts with the law schools.

00:21:11.660 And if you successfully indoctrinate would-be lawyers while they're in law school, then they're going to spend the rest of their careers as either a woke lawyer in private practice working for a big law firm, or they're going to go into government.

00:21:30.060 or if they have the right connections, they will become a judge.

00:21:34.380 And in any event, they're all taught what the left wants them to do in the law school.

00:21:43.000 So this is the long march through the institutions has taken place, and law schools have been captured.

00:21:50.840 And one of the reasons that they are captured and will stay captured is because the American Bar Association

00:21:57.360 has been granted monopoly status over the accreditation process for law schools.

00:22:04.980 And in virtually every state, you cannot take the bar exam.

00:22:09.460 Somebody, a graduate of a law school, cannot take the bar exam unless the school they graduated

00:22:13.800 from has been accredited by the ABA.

00:22:17.380 And this has happened on a piecemeal basis in each state.

00:22:22.280 The state Supreme Court is in charge of regulating the practice of law in that state.

00:22:27.120 And that includes accreditation of law schools. And they've just simply delegated this to the ABA.

00:22:33.300 And the ABA, over a period of decades, has slowly, like a boa constrictor, wrapped itself around legal academia.

00:22:42.840 And instead of just policing things like, do you have enough books in the library and do you have enough teachers on your faculty?

00:22:49.340 they've micromanaged every aspect of legal education, including what needs to be taught,

00:22:55.620 how it's taught, who gets hired, how to admit students, make sure that you have enough affirmative

00:23:01.180 action. But the thing that's the topic of my piece today is Rule 203 of the ABA's accreditation

00:23:09.840 standards, which says that a law school dean cannot be hired without the consent and approval

00:23:17.820 of the faculty. And this got put into the headlines in Kentucky because the University

00:23:24.000 of Kentucky College of Law is in the process or has selected a new dean. And the person they've

00:23:31.220 selected is a very esteemed lawyer, a retired federal judge. It was a judge for 20 years on

00:23:37.720 the district court in Kentucky. Prior to that was a U.S. attorney in Kentucky and has a very

00:23:46.060 impressive resume of experience, but he's not a woke academic like virtually everybody on the

00:23:53.560 University of Kentucky law faculty, and they hated him. So there were four candidates that

00:23:58.500 were considered, and the law faculty made it clear he's unacceptable to us. Well, the search

00:24:04.320 committee at the University of Kentucky made its own decision and decided that this guy has

00:24:10.640 everything they were looking for. The guy is even a graduate of the University of Kentucky

00:24:14.780 College of Law. You'd think they'd be proud to have such an accomplished graduate now becoming

00:24:19.920 their dean. So they ignored the objections of the faculty, even though the woke governor of

00:24:27.620 Kentucky, Andy Beshear, intervened on behalf of the faculty and was criticizing the governors of

00:24:35.060 the University of Kentucky for selecting somebody the faculty didn't want. And one wacko faculty

00:24:41.300 member who's currently suspended, filed a lawsuit which is pending in federal court saying you can't

00:24:47.920 hire him because the faculty doesn't want him and citing the ABA rule that says that if the faculty

00:24:54.520 objects, you can't hire him. So what this lays bare is the nonsense of the ABA and its accreditation

00:25:01.920 rules. What other industry, what other business in America gives the employees, the rank and file

00:25:08.560 employees veto power over the board of directors' decision who's going to be CEO of the company.

00:25:16.040 It doesn't make sense. If UAW asked in a union contract negotiation that the workers get to

00:25:23.340 veto who gets hired as CEO of General Motors, they would be laughed out of the conference room.

00:25:29.260 But yet, that is the existing status quo when it comes to ABA accreditation of law schools.

00:25:36.340 there's a movement underfoot to eliminate the ABA's monopoly status. That has to be done on a

00:25:44.380 state-by-state basis, but it's gaining traction. And I think this case is an illustration of why

00:25:50.520 those reforms need to be made. So let's say you have a faculty that's comprised of majority of

00:25:56.600 left-wingers, and that's true, I think, of every law school in America. The only way you're going

00:26:01.680 to fix that is put a sensible reformer in as dean and try to steer things back to the center.

00:26:08.520 But as long as the faculty has a veto power over the dean selection process, that will never happen

00:26:14.520 and the capture of legal academia will continue. That's incredible. Can you stay through the break?

00:26:20.820 I got a couple more questions I want to ask you about this. Very, very, very disturbing.

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00:31:25.380 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

00:31:30.420 Mark Pulliam, your blog site is amazing.

00:31:33.700 I want everybody to go read this article because in the Long March of the Institutions,

00:31:37.820 one of the ones that's been stolen and radicalized is the legal profession.

00:31:43.380 As you know, and if you read, we had Posobiec on today.

00:31:47.560 If you read Unhumans, like when the French legal community was radicalized before the revolution,

00:31:52.860 Once you lose the legal community, you've got a massive problem in society to turn it around. 0.54

00:32:00.860 Right now, I keep telling people, and I'm not a lawyer, but I know these great, respected lawyers, and they're sitting there going, you have no idea how radical the big white shoe law firms have become.

00:32:10.460 You have no idea how radical the law schools are.

00:32:13.280 You have no idea how radical this first tier of judges are, and that's going to make the system very tough to turn around.

00:32:21.360 The ABA has become so radical.

00:32:23.240 I mean, John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Clark, all these heroes of our movement, they've tried to disbar them.

00:32:30.040 And, I mean, they've tried to put them in bankruptcy, take away their ability to earn a living on just completely made-up charges.

00:32:36.720 It's almost like you're watching the Moscow show trials of 19 with 35 when you watch Eastman go before him.

00:32:43.700 It's absolutely sick.

00:32:45.500 What can be done to reverse this?

00:32:47.080 And how do they get so much power to actually decide who should be law school deans?

00:32:54.660 Well, the ABA's monopoly over law school accreditation has two sources.

00:33:01.120 One is each state's Supreme Court has to decide who's eligible to take the bar exam in that state.

00:33:09.540 and maybe due to laziness, maybe due to inertia, almost all states have delegated that

00:33:16.480 function to the ABA. And there's a movement now to change that.

00:33:23.800 The other important one is the Department of Education. The U.S. Department of Education

00:33:28.960 looks to the ABA, and you are only eligible for federal student loans if you attend an ABA

00:33:35.620 accredited law school. And so the Department of Education, I think, can and should kick the ABA

00:33:41.980 out of that, just like the Department of Justice has kicked the ABA out of evaluating judicial

00:33:47.520 nominees. It's a left-wing special interest group. It's like the Southern Poverty Law Center or the

00:33:53.120 ACLU. And unfortunately, as long as law schools remain this training ground, this indoctrination

00:34:02.120 camps for left-wing legal activists, that's, you know, we're going to have the law fair

00:34:08.020 is going to continue, the out-of-control pro bono programs by the big law firms is going

00:34:12.760 to continue, the crazy Orwellian disciplinary process conducted by state bar associations

00:34:21.180 is going to continue.

00:34:22.480 So we really, in order to fix our legal system, you have to fix legal academia.

00:34:26.920 And in order to fix legal academia, you have to kick the ABA out of the accreditation process.

00:34:33.780 Each state is going to have to do that. Tennessee is considering it right now.

00:34:38.880 In fact, Michael Patrick Leahy's law school, the National School of Law, is not ABA accredited.

00:34:44.220 But in Tennessee, they are allowed to take the bar exam anyway because they have a century of a track record of producing good quality law graduates.

00:34:54.260 Yeah. So this is a big job. You know, our legal academia didn't get corrupted overnight and it's not going to get fixed overnight.

00:35:02.520 But we have to focus on this.

00:35:04.820 I want everybody to go to your blog and read this real quickly because I'm pressed for time.

00:35:12.720 Brashear is running for president in 2028.

00:35:15.660 He's presenting himself like Cooper.

00:35:17.360 You've got all these southern progressives or left-wingers that present themselves as moderates, centrist, men of the people.

00:35:28.140 Brashear is taking the side of the ABA on this.

00:35:30.660 is he at all a moderate or is this another example of him showing his hand that he's actually pretty

00:35:36.560 radical well he's just showing his hand and hopefully kentucky voters will figure that out

00:35:41.640 he his father was a very popular governor he's a good-looking guy and he snookered tennessee voters

00:35:48.620 for that reason but they are a pretty conservative lot up there and i hope that they recognize and

00:35:55.000 democratic unfortunately there's no such thing as a moderate democrat anymore they're all radicals

00:36:00.560 And so if you're running it, you know, he is going to be a serious candidate, but the public needs to know he's just, you know, a less slick Gavin Newsom.

00:36:14.020 Mark, one more time, where do people go to the blog to get all the information and what's your social media?

00:36:18.720 What are your coordinates?

00:36:20.300 OK, so MissRuleOfLaw.com is my blog, and that's also my X handle.

00:36:26.080 And I have a Facebook page, MissRuleOfLaw.

00:36:28.580 And I, you know, I've made it a cause in my retirement to atone for the legal profession, which I participated in for 30 years.

00:36:38.440 And so I'm the voice in the wilderness of you have to fix this.

00:36:43.620 Well, we're going to make sure you're not in the wilderness.

00:36:45.520 We're going to get ready to go there.

00:36:46.520 It's fantastic.

00:36:47.380 Thank you, sir.

00:36:47.940 Appreciate you.

00:36:49.420 Appreciate Michael Patrick Leahy for turning the war room on to you.

00:36:52.500 Thank you.

00:36:52.960 uh i didn't have time the other night we did the coverage uh because we we kind of punched out

00:36:58.980 early jim hoft and patty mcmurray join us the president talked about the michigan situation

00:37:04.860 and really talked about i guess the fbi and others understand there were crimes committed

00:37:10.280 and not just look the other way but one other way to thwart it uh the country owes the gateway

00:37:17.040 Pundit and Jim, you and Patty, just so much gratitude for the work that you guys did and

00:37:24.140 for the years you've worked on this and were mocked and ridiculed every day you did it.

00:37:29.540 It only turns out that everything that you said, you came on the show years ago, everything you

00:37:35.120 said was absolutely gospel truth. It's been proven by the internal emails and text messages.

00:37:42.960 So explain to us, and maybe Patty, you or Jim, you guys figured it out, but give me the two-minute summary of exactly what went on that you would come on the show and talk about and what was basically backed up in the president's talk the other night.

00:37:55.600 Patty, if I could, I'll say a couple of things, but Patty's the expert here, Steve, and she did tremendous work here with some activists from Michigan, some activists from Muskegon, Michigan, who got this started, who were able to FOIA this buried police report over there about what happened in Muskegon during the 2020 election.

00:38:19.040 And this group, GBI Strategies, that we named in our reports, was sending out all of these stacks of fraudulent registrations to several counties around, not just Muskegon, but several county clerks around Michigan.

00:38:36.120 And we know these were fraudulent from the report that was released last week.

00:38:42.120 The FBI actually did a test on some of these ballot registrations that came in, and in their report they said that 13 out of 20 were bogus registrations and had to be thrown out.

00:38:55.800 So it's tragic that no one was prosecuted.

00:38:59.100 That's what we also saw in these documents that came out.

00:39:03.220 But this was completely Patty and the wonderful people from Michigan who are so active up there trying to clean up their elections, Steve.

00:39:11.820 And I want to thank you. You are the you are the lone voice out there, Steve, that was reporting on this huge scandal.

00:39:18.880 The war room, the posse, they know they know what happened because they heard us several times come on your show and discuss them.

00:39:28.360 And anyway, so I want to thank you. Fox didn't do this. CNN.

00:39:34.640 All this was new to all of the channels out there because it's never been reported.

00:39:39.580 I had the easy, okay, I do have the easiest job in the world because I got a microphone and a platform and the greatest audience in the world.

00:39:46.760 You guys do the work.

00:39:47.660 Patty, go through and talk about the level of work, what the volunteers did, what you guys did to break this case years ago, and still nobody listened to you.

00:39:56.960 Ma'am.

00:39:59.200 Yeah, thanks for having me on.

00:40:00.700 I do want to give a big shout out to a couple election integrity activists up in Muskegon.

00:40:06.400 And one of them, Chris Kajoya, who actually, he actually sat down with Lieutenant Anderson.

00:40:13.560 And, you know, I don't have the exact details, but it's my belief that Lieutenant Anderson, who was the primary lieutenant or detective in this case, in the GBI Strategies case, working for the Michigan State Police, wanted this story to get out because he spoke with him at length about this case.

00:40:31.780 And he actually gave him the case number and suggested he FOIA it.

00:40:35.700 So a friend of his, Keith Hinkle, FOIA'd the report, and that's how I got the report.

00:40:40.840 It was FOIA'd in February of 2023.

00:40:44.220 So I can't speak to the motive of Lieutenant Anderson, but I can say that he encouraged

00:40:49.420 them to review the documents and to look at the state police report.

00:40:53.680 I think probably a lot of the frustration comes from the fact that they had done all

00:40:58.260 this work.

00:40:59.060 And as Jim mentioned, this was not, as people keep calling it, a Muskegon case.

00:41:03.920 This was a statewide voter registration fraud scheme that was taking place.

00:41:12.840 And GBI Strategies, who called themselves Empower Michigan and the state of Michigan,

00:41:17.640 was sending boxes of voter registrations, fraudulent voter registrations, to clerks across the state of Michigan.

00:41:25.040 We wouldn't have known that because that was not in the Michigan State Police Report,

00:41:28.460 except after the first report that I released, we got a call from a whistleblower who wanted to

00:41:34.520 allow me to look at the clerk's Facebook page in Michigan, which I did. And I was able to see

00:41:41.420 just all kinds of conversations from these clerks that were sharing photos and discussions about

00:41:47.600 these boxes that they were getting from a hotel in Auburn Hills, Michigan, a State Bridge Hotel,

00:41:53.140 and with the initials EM at the top of the return address, which stood for Empower Michigan.

00:41:58.500 And they were sending these boxes of fraudulent registrations to clerks across the state of

00:42:03.980 Michigan. So this was not localized to Muskegon like many people think it was. The headquarters

00:42:09.500 for GBI strategies was in Southfield, Michigan. And that's actually the place that the Michigan

00:42:15.320 state police raided. And then I think for people that don't know the full story, when the state

00:42:21.780 police raided the headquarters, they found the prepaid voter registration or prepaid cards that

00:42:29.360 they paid the canvassers who were getting these fraudulent voter registrations for them. And it's

00:42:35.280 also worth noting that anybody that worked for GBI Strategies slash Empower Michigan had to provide

00:42:41.980 their social security number and a license that they would make a copy of and save it in their

00:42:47.580 files, and that's also in the police report, so that they could collect fraudulent voter

00:42:52.320 registrations with no identification. And then, of course, we don't check voter IDs in the state

00:42:58.740 of Michigan. But another thing I wanted to point out about this report that I think is extremely

00:43:04.300 significant is, as everybody knows, Jocelyn Benson, our current Secretary of State, who's the

00:43:09.520 most dishonest Secretary of State in the country, is running for governor now as the Democratic

00:43:14.960 candidate for governor. And her investigator, Corey Ames, was deeply involved in this investigation.

00:43:22.140 And there are notes about his investigation in both police reports, the Muskegon and Michigan

00:43:27.800 State Police Report, where he talks about a quantity of fraudulent voter applications that

00:43:33.400 were found. But this Lieutenant Anderson told Chris Kajala that he actually, that this

00:43:42.060 this investigator was tasked with taking all of the voter registrations and looking through them,

00:43:49.120 but he never gave them the data. He never gave it back to the Michigan State Police. So they

00:43:54.120 have no way of knowing how many fraudulent registrations there were. But we know that

00:43:58.420 there were a quantity because he reports it in the Michigan State Police report. And furthermore,

00:44:04.220 Jocelyn Benson never told the clerks. He was able to tell them to ignore signature matching

00:44:09.300 on the envelopes and on the applications,

00:44:13.340 but she somehow wasn't able to inform the clerks

00:44:17.020 that these boxes of fraudulent voter registrations

00:44:19.480 were being mailed across the state.

00:44:24.280 What is fascinating about this

00:44:26.420 and what you guys reported over the years

00:44:27.660 about what they confirmed the other day

00:44:28.940 is how well thought through this is

00:44:31.620 of how to do this on a mass scale, number one.

00:44:36.100 And number two, how brazen it is.

00:44:38.360 It's not like they kind of went out of their way that much to hide this.

00:44:42.580 It was almost like they understood the system was corrupt and there really wasn't going to be any kind of deep investigation.

00:44:48.560 It both had scale.

00:44:49.780 It had sophistication.

00:44:51.480 But it was also so brazen.

00:44:53.180 It was almost like they didn't care about getting caught.

00:44:56.360 Right?

00:44:56.820 Am I wrong on that?

00:44:57.940 And this is one of the things that kind of takes your breath away, particularly when you realize it's not the Muskegon case.

00:45:03.260 That's kind of the center of gravity.

00:45:04.740 But it was the entire state of Michigan.

00:45:07.100 And they, you know, and with no voter ID, right, they know they can just get away with this. Patty, you first, and then Jim.

00:45:16.120 Yeah, I also want to mention that when they raided the Southfield office, they found a Pelican case that was unlocked that had semi-automatic rifles with silencers, modified pistols, and ammunition in that room.

00:45:29.540 And above it was a whiteboard that said weapons prepared, ready for the field.

00:45:33.960 So I don't know if that's common practice for Democratic operations, because we do know, based on the police report, that it was funded by Joe Biden and Gary Peters.

00:45:44.140 And the DSCC is also very active and was very active in funding them.

00:45:49.500 I also want to point out that the Michigan legislators, 22 of them, wrote a letter to P.M. Bondi demanding that she open an investigation into GBI strategies, which at that time didn't happen.

00:46:03.640 But, you know, the Michigan lawmakers here are fed up with it.

00:46:06.680 They're sick and tired of it.

00:46:08.120 They're tired of the fraud.

00:46:09.120 They're tired of being mocked for bringing it up or for supporting.

00:46:14.040 You know, when when when we write a story at the Gateway Pundit, we get a lot of support from Michelle Smith and others in the Michigan legislature.

00:46:21.680 But we get we get mocked by by the mainstream media and, you know, told that the reporting doesn't have any basis, even though it's 100 percent based on a Michigan state police and Muskegon police report.

00:46:34.880 So, Jim, what are we going to do? And have you heard from anybody from because now we get like, I guess, emails and text messages inside the FBI.

00:46:41.840 They're working to suppress this. People knew about it, but not just looked the other way, just absolutely said, no, we're not going to deal with this, although we know it's wrong, sir.

00:46:53.180 Closed the case, the FBI and the DOJ. So that's pretty sad.

00:46:57.940 But of course, with Trump bringing this up during his speech, certainly we believe they'll take another look at what happened in Muskegon.

00:47:06.460 And Steve, I do think you're correct. This isn't just a Muskegon issue. This is just the center of gravity, as you said. But we've seen the same types of operations taking place in Ohio. There was a group there that was turning in stacks of fraudulent registrations that the officials in the counties noticed and held press releases on this.

00:47:33.860 We've seen it in Arizona.

00:47:35.400 We've seen it in Pennsylvania.

00:47:37.120 We've seen GBI had offices actually in nine different states and the District of Columbia.

00:47:44.460 So this is a national problem.

00:47:48.420 This is something the left has been doing.

00:47:50.300 I believe it's probably they're probably operating.

00:47:52.400 I don't have proof of this, but I bet you they're in a lot more states than we know of doing similar things.

00:47:58.060 And it's criminal activity.

00:48:00.380 And I can't hope anymore. You guys have done this for years and you've been you've been they tried to destroy you for this very reason.

00:48:10.240 Patty, please tell me, make me feel better on a Monday.

00:48:13.280 Please tell me after Thursday night, you've been inundated with calls from DOJ and FBI officials that want to sit down and go through and have your entire team brief them, please.

00:48:26.400 Yeah, sorry to report that I can't tell you that.

00:48:31.000 Don't you find that kind of shocking?

00:48:33.080 Don't you find that kind of shocking?

00:48:34.400 You guys have done, taken some of the initial investigative work, but actually put it together

00:48:39.020 so you can understand it.

00:48:41.380 Is it shocking that no one's reached out to you yet?

00:48:44.840 Yeah, I was kind of hoping somebody would, because about two weeks after we reported

00:48:48.580 on this, really the only other news source that reported on this story after we broke

00:48:54.040 it was John Solomon.

00:48:55.800 And he did write about it a couple of weeks after we broke the story.

00:48:59.120 So he was obviously aware of the source. So I can't explain to you why we haven't heard anything from anyone, but we definitely have all the contacts and the people that were involved at round level with this investigation.

00:49:16.000 Patty, where do people go to get all your reporting on this and to learn out more about your efforts and to maybe thank the people that did the work with you guys?

00:49:25.660 yeah first and foremost that the gateway pundit so um we actually will be having a story that

00:49:32.160 will be coming out tomorrow um where we'll be showing evidence of the clerks that that that

00:49:38.000 are having discussions about receiving these same fraudulent registrations so on the gateway

00:49:44.260 pundit and then um on twitter at patty loves truth jim hoff maybe i'll talk to you after the

00:49:51.260 show maybe we'll get you guys back up tomorrow if we're gonna have another bite of the apple

00:49:54.020 The story is fascinating. The scale and in your face nature of, you know, highly sophisticated and quite frankly, it's almost like they don't give a damn.

00:50:05.120 They don't think anybody's going to actually pursue it. They don't think anybody's ever going to investigate them.

00:50:10.200 So just go about and do it. Jim, congratulations. Where do people go for your social media and the Gateway Pundit?

00:50:16.920 Yeah, Steve, thegatewaypundit.com is our website,

00:50:21.040 and you can find us on Twitter and Getter,

00:50:23.600 and I guess it's called X, and Facebook,

00:50:26.180 and all of the social media platforms.

00:50:28.920 So thank you very much, Steve.

00:50:30.400 I really appreciate this.

00:50:32.400 No, no, no.

00:50:33.100 Come on, guys.

00:50:33.620 You guys do all the work, and we'll make sure somehow

00:50:35.500 we get the bell rung here and get you guys to debrief people

00:50:38.740 because they need to be debriefed.

00:50:40.740 Petty McMurray, Jim Hoff, Gateway Pundit, heroic.

00:50:43.940 Remember when we first had won that story a couple years ago?

00:50:46.740 It kind of took your breath away.

00:50:49.300 Of course, you know, two years later.

00:50:52.520 But we've got to put it to bed, and it has to be investigated,

00:50:56.020 and people have to go to jail for this.

00:50:59.440 They said they go, statute of limitations.

00:51:01.220 Look, the only way Democrats win is they steal.

00:51:04.440 And Patty's right, and Jim's right, this is all over the nation.

00:51:07.540 GBI strategies was not just a local thing.

00:51:11.280 The Power of Michigan was their local front-facing in Michigan, but they were all over. 0.54

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00:52:12.140 Okay, we're going to be back at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow.

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Bannon's War Room - July 20, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 1051： Stopping The Steal Of 2026 By Getting To The Bottom Of 2020

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