Bannon's War Room - Episode 5544： Israeli Defense, And The Ongoing War

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.680 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.640 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:50.120 Saturday, 25 July, Year of Our Lord, 2026.

00:00:52.960 Okay, we're going to go in a minute, when we finish with Todd, to war and the rumors of war next.

00:00:59.000 of what is taking our attention away from the problem that we have to address.

00:01:06.880 A problem, folks, as complicated as the situation,

00:01:11.880 you saw this from the cold open,

00:01:13.060 as complicated as the situation is in the Middle East.

00:01:17.640 And why is it complicated? I don't know.

00:01:20.540 We're talking Persia, in Israel, in Turkey, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia, 1.00

00:01:27.580 you know, the Bedouins, they've been doing this, they've been at each other's throats for, I don't 0.99

00:01:31.340 know, a couple of thousand years. A couple of thousand years. Read the histories of the 0.98

00:01:39.260 campaigns of Alexander the Great. Read the March Up Country by Xenophon. Read the, or the March

00:01:46.900 Home, however you want to refer to it. Read the Bible. Read it all. Go back to the ancient sources.

00:01:53.220 You read it, you know what you think you're reading? You think you're reading the headlines.

00:01:56.400 You think you're on Drudge, on Citizens Free Press, I'm just clicking through.

00:02:00.020 It ain't changed, and it's not going to change, okay?

00:02:03.140 But we have a country in this 250th year founded by some of the greatest men and women in the history of mankind

00:02:10.780 and has created the freest country, the country that freed more people, created more wealth,

00:02:17.360 did more for the huddled masses.

00:02:19.680 I don't know about your family, but we were essentially kicked out of Ireland, right? 0.98

00:02:23.660 or kicked out or left because there's nothing you're just eating dirt

00:02:27.420 there wasn't a lot of fond memories for the old country or for the brits 0.99

00:02:31.880 okay and if you look at uh you know the huddled masses they got a shot here they got a break 0.98

00:02:38.540 they got a break to do their own thing how about that without somebody some king

00:02:44.780 or aristocracy or someone telling them here what they're going to do and when they're going to do

00:02:49.900 it. And enemies of that idea, enemies of that idea and the Christian faith that underpins it 0.55

00:02:59.480 have been targeting this country for hundreds of years. And now we have a problem. And we got to 0.98

00:03:06.840 talk about that problem. And we have to get a solution problem because it's not going to go

00:03:09.700 away. It's metastasized. In fact, as you think Mike Johnson is going to solve this or Steve

00:03:14.000 Scalise, they're going to solve this problem. You think John Thune is going to solve this problem?

00:03:17.620 mitch mcconnell you think they're gonna solve it you think they're gonna solve it they all just ran

00:03:22.000 home when you see your congressman get up in his grill say yo yo dude what the hell are you doing

00:03:27.900 back here i hired you to be there to solve the problem like the invasion of this country what 0.58

00:03:32.640 are you doing and don't let me give you some gobbledygook todd benson you've got an amazing

00:03:38.000 idea it's up on fox digital talk to me about this commission truth commission what do you want to do

00:03:42.640 you want to get to the bottom of how it happened, how many are here, where are they, and who should

00:03:49.300 be held accountable for this, correct? That's correct. Steve, there are terabytes of unexcavated

00:03:58.020 emails at the Department of State, CBP, all the DHS agencies, memorandum, discussion notes,

00:04:07.780 you know, the material of policymaking that are just sitting there. Nobody has yet moved to grab

00:04:16.940 them and study them to find out who to hold to account for what they did during those four years

00:04:23.880 so that it can never happen again, so that we know what to put in place, what sort of internal

00:04:30.780 accountability rules and barriers and walls to put in place to prevent that from happening again.

00:04:36.800 So I'm proposing a presidential truth commission be appointed to start excavating that while we still have a couple of years to do it and produce a report.

00:04:48.300 And yes, a report, that's good for policymaking, but people who would serve on this truth commission could also make criminal referrals.

00:04:59.160 Remember, I told you that there were hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts, no bid contracts that were just let to, you know, mom and pop, who knows who they were, to resettle the illegal aliens into the country.

00:05:18.120 and that went to NGOs abroad. And here there were United Nations relationships with people

00:05:27.020 in the State Department. There was no daylight between them. It was like operationally incestuous

00:05:34.500 what was going on there. But like who, what, when, how did all that happen? It's just sitting there.

00:05:42.340 And I really hope that the window doesn't close on that with the end of the Trump administration.

00:05:48.120 uh before we get a chance to to harvest all of it and study it and and hold people to account

00:05:55.120 and make policy to fix it so so that never happens again as soon as you mentioned commission

00:06:02.000 federal government and report you know people got to go and hit the snooze button right i got

00:06:07.440 hang on for a second hang on a second but that's the current structure you're recommending and the

00:06:13.540 reason you're recommending it is you're saying and it doesn't have to be that it could actually

00:06:17.140 be something the government does itself right now your point is this just didn't happen it just

00:06:24.340 didn't have this way get back to the stolen election of 2020 he had the guy on ezra klein

00:06:29.400 show you said yesterday they're inextricably linked the the the voting irregularities and

00:06:35.140 the voting fraud with the invasion of the country and that oh you've got these guys these nativists 0.99

00:06:40.760 these xenophobes like war room and bannon and all they do is hammer on that and this you're damn

00:06:45.120 right because they are inextricably linked and finally i'd like to take that transcript and uh

00:06:50.980 and and get it over to the fox and have them read it but todd the reason you're using this

00:06:58.480 construct and this structure is that at least that would initiate something you're saying

00:07:02.720 there's a massive amount of information internally to the government today from government agencies

00:07:08.560 that worked in conjunction with NGOs, et cetera, in a very organized manner.

00:07:13.520 This just didn't hundreds of thousands of people, that amazing photograph that's the

00:07:18.900 cover of your book.

00:07:20.080 And I might say, as great as that book is, I think it's the one time that a photo cover

00:07:25.100 art sold a book, right?

00:07:27.460 Because it summarized exactly what was in the book so brilliantly.

00:07:30.560 So you say, I got to buy that book and read it.

00:07:32.780 Is that that just didn't happen.

00:07:34.300 What happened at the International Bridge there just didn't happen.

00:07:37.500 Those people just didn't randomly show up.

00:07:39.940 This is well thought through, and it took a massive government effort, in addition to

00:07:45.380 these quasi-government NGOs, to organize and do it.

00:07:49.560 And you're saying, don't take it from Todd Bensman, and don't take it from Steve Bannon,

00:07:53.740 and don't take it from the War Room, and don't take it from Heritage.

00:07:56.420 Take it from the data itself, correct?

00:07:59.800 Go get it.

00:08:00.820 It's just sitting there.

00:08:01.920 Go get it.

00:08:02.480 I'm not going to say that I didn't propose this when I was in the administration.

00:08:07.500 uh but uh i'm out here and i wouldn't it wouldn't bother me a bit if uh that got some traction from

00:08:16.000 the outside um and we're going to be on it very much so last thing just the numbers and look you

00:08:23.480 got a lot of you got home and these guys they're they're working on this thing i'm not so sure

00:08:27.580 about the new dhs guy just these numbers in turn we have to the president's done a magnificent job

00:08:34.520 on sealing the border to the degree you can seal it.

00:08:37.380 You've got the military down there on the southern border.

00:08:39.780 We have customs and borders have been empowered,

00:08:41.640 and it now feels like somebody's got their back.

00:08:43.560 You've got the Coast Guard.

00:08:44.920 You've got everybody kind of working in conjunction, doing a great job.

00:08:48.080 But the beating heart of the problem today,

00:08:50.960 the battlefield has shifted to internal enforcement.

00:08:54.640 And in the biggest cities you have, these magnificent cities,

00:08:58.040 the greatest cities in the history of mankind,

00:09:01.240 San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, others.

00:09:05.940 You have a Marxist, jihadist groups running them.

00:09:10.420 They're saying, absolutely, you cannot enforce federal immigration policy.

00:09:17.240 They are worse than John C. Calhoun before the Civil War.

00:09:20.540 What is to be done then, and how are we to judge the math and the numbers of how we're doing?

00:09:24.960 The public numbers, the record, the public record is showing that ICE has arrested and deported about 605,000 since the beginning.

00:09:37.660 Those are not the kind of numbers that anybody really envisioned.

00:09:42.020 We were envisioning a lot higher than that.

00:09:45.040 It's about 1,200 a day.

00:09:47.220 There was a period there where we wanted 3,000 a day, which would be about a million a year.

00:09:53.140 and it's just not happening. Also, I'm not sure that I trust those numbers that well. I would want

00:10:01.840 much greater transparency, break down those numbers. Are those the border numbers? I think

00:10:08.580 there's another 400,000 that were turned away at the border, 440,000 turned away at the border.

00:10:14.080 We're not sure. And then we don't really know how many self-deported. There's a lot that is not

00:10:20.340 known about what happened, and I would call on much greater transparency, much higher numbers.

00:10:28.320 I think that when ICE first started, they forgot to tie their shoelaces, tripped over them a few

00:10:35.840 times out of the gate. We all know about that, but I also want to point out that the expectation of

00:10:43.680 how many. Remember, I was on the border on your show live all the time while the thousands were

00:10:51.140 all around me. They were coming in 10,000 a day, 8,000 a day, sometimes 14,000 a day,

00:10:58.560 and turning themselves in all at once to Border Patrol. Nobody's turning themselves in for

00:11:05.380 deportation on the interior at all. We have to track them down one by one so that you can't

00:11:11.960 really expect the deportation effort to match the number that were coming in monthly. It's just not

00:11:19.260 they were turning themselves in. I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. And they're running

00:11:22.940 on the interior. But there is a lot more that can be done to to organize and target

00:11:31.620 not just criminal aliens. It needs I watched Mark Morgan on your show the other day. I agree with

00:11:38.400 him. It's the worst first, but that means there's a second, third, fourth, and fifth category too.

00:11:45.720 And we got to go get everybody here. And I think I'm optimistic about it. We've got 22,000

00:11:52.600 officers hired now. We've got detention space, like 75,000 beds now. So we've got the space

00:12:00.680 that we never had before. The Biden administration did a Sherman's march to the sea before they left

00:12:07.680 and just left everything a smoking ruin in deportation.

00:12:12.460 It all had to be rebuilt with big, beautiful bill money,

00:12:15.960 which didn't even come until July one year ago.

00:12:19.660 So I'm optimistic that everything is starting to really line up and be in place.

00:12:25.240 Fingers crossed.

00:12:26.900 But I think the numbers are going to be above 2,000 a day pretty soon

00:12:31.020 and then in place to get to that magic 3,000 number.

00:12:35.700 So fingers crossed on that.

00:12:37.680 And I think got the strategy in place now, too. I would like to see more work for worksite enforcement that needs to happen.

00:12:45.480 When this gets down to it and we got about a minute and I know you got to bounce.

00:12:51.240 President Trump's Herculean sealed the border, then got the money, the manpower, the training, all of it to have in place the piece you need to do this.

00:12:58.580 This is now let's get down to the hub of it. The or the nub of it, the this is a test of political wills.

00:13:07.340 The people opposed to us not only don't want anybody removed, they want to give them full rights of American citizenship and have them vote.

00:13:15.260 And right now they're trying to get him to vote either illegitimately or any way possible.

00:13:19.280 And they want more here.

00:13:21.300 As you see it right now, who's going to win this test of political wills?

00:13:25.380 Todd Bensman.

00:13:27.800 I think Tom Homan is going to win that and the president are going to win that.

00:13:33.120 I'm optimistic.

00:13:34.220 I was on the inside there. I am familiar with what's going on. And I think that the change in tactics is really ultimately designed to thwart the organized propaganda machine that involves attacking ICE officers while they're doing their jobs and drawing a response from them that then gets videotaped and put out there.

00:14:04.220 Um, so I think, I think everything's in place.

00:14:08.240 Uh, so let's just hope that they stay the course to add worksite enforcement on there.

00:14:13.740 Can I just say quick thing about the voting?

00:14:16.000 I tell you what, hang on for one second.

00:14:19.240 I'll hold you through the break.

00:14:20.120 I want you to talk about the voting and give your coordinates.

00:14:22.960 Harrison Berger is going to join us about this NDAA and section 219.

00:14:28.640 Let's get down to it.

00:14:29.960 Figure out what happened here before people ran out of town.

00:14:33.460 The great Tej Gill is also going to be here.

00:14:35.240 New York Post has got an exclusive report on a very sophisticated, complicated, and large military operation

00:14:43.000 to take care of the nuclear, I guess, material problem.

00:14:47.340 Tej is going to break it down as a special forces hero.

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00:16:36.820 the um the phoenix engine room reminds me of the cloud pivot strategy and what's going on here but

00:16:45.140 most importantly as we talk about the american revolution the book revolution that so many of

00:16:50.020 you have bought and put up high on the new york times bestseller list for week after week after

00:16:54.300 week um and as i say this kind of went through three phases you had american revolution then

00:16:59.220 you had the war of independence which i argue is this part we're in now then you had the building

00:17:04.280 the nation, the coming together around the Constitution, what was not working in the

00:17:08.440 Continental Congress, and then all the way up to the War of 1812, the British tried to come back

00:17:15.260 and take it over again, and finally General Jackson and a motley crew of Dog's Breakfast

00:17:22.180 of Patriots down in New Orleans crushed one of Wellington's armies in the Battle of New Orleans

00:17:30.340 It's early in 1815 that really ended it, as I think ended it.

00:17:37.140 Tom Paine, who wrote Common Sense, which was really something that got people fired up,

00:17:42.480 he was, and people come in and out of the story, like people come in and out of the story today.

00:17:46.040 He was there for the American Revolution part and really got people fired up.

00:17:50.200 I just want to give a quote.

00:17:52.860 This is from Tom Paine.

00:17:54.020 And by the way, they sent Tom Paine.

00:17:55.160 He was so over the top, I guess you could say.

00:17:58.660 They said, hey, Tom, I think you've got better options in revolutionary France when he went over there.

00:18:04.220 His quote, we shall have no real hope to survive the enemies arranged against us until we hang the traitors lurking among us.

00:18:15.160 That's a quote from Tom Paine, one of the great founders of this country, laying it right out there.

00:18:20.400 harrison burger this i find it there's something i can't put my finger on and so i've talked to

00:18:30.960 kurt males you work with kurt over american conservative and you follow this you track

00:18:34.980 this very closely and he came on the other day to do a good first cut there's something not right

00:18:41.480 with what's going on i can't put my finger on i can't understand why the house voted on an ndaa

00:18:47.400 and then got the hell out of town and at first I said well no they're just taking a long weekend

00:18:52.660 and they go no no you're wrong I go well they're just taking like a couple of days they're gonna

00:18:56.900 be back because it's only the third week of July or it's only late you know middle of July late

00:19:03.060 July and they go no no no no they're not coming back they say they're not going to come back till

00:19:07.940 Labor Day but they're going to take it longer than that they'll probably be September 14th

00:19:11.200 that's when the Senate's coming back and I go yo with everything we got going on and the backs

00:19:17.160 against the wall of holding serve in the House. The House would take six weeks off right now

00:19:22.700 to kind of go hide and really come back. I think would have nothing more than two or three weeks

00:19:28.660 in the legislative schedule until they go campaign supposedly in October. And they go, yeah.

00:19:35.260 So Harrison, this 219, and here's my problem with this. I've got a lot of problems with the

00:19:40.880 fundamental problem i have with it is we have not had a robust debate it's still very hard to kind

00:19:47.440 of figure out what it is but i know when people don't want to debate it and want to stuff it in

00:19:51.700 something this is exactly what happened on the um on the on the situation with big tech trying to put

00:19:58.300 in uh the the the the wording they wanted in the last ndaa they wanted to put it in there about

00:20:05.520 about preemption that they would have no controls nothing on them and you've seen what's happened

00:20:10.620 over the last couple days, and I'll have more about that, about this breakout and containment

00:20:16.160 that we've warned about. So the same thing they did there is they've done, and they don't want

00:20:20.620 any debate on it, because they understand if you actually start debating it in the common sense

00:20:25.000 of the American people, they're going to go, well, hang on for a second. Why are we doing this?

00:20:29.040 So explain to me the process of 219. What is it? How did it get in there? And how did it get in

00:20:35.060 there without any robust debate so that people still today don't quite know everything about it,

00:20:41.200 sir? Well, this bill is just absolutely shocking, as you've covered extensively on your show.

00:20:46.960 And I'd really encourage every American to just go online right now, look up the text of Section

00:20:52.000 219 in the NDA and read it, because there's just so many lies that are being deployed right now,

00:20:56.880 mainly by the Israel lobby and, you know, the defense contractor-funded politicians,

00:21:00.880 voting for it about this bill.

00:21:03.440 What Section 219 is going to do

00:21:05.400 is that it's going to designate this executive agent

00:21:07.560 with this extremely broad mandate

00:21:09.900 for expanding and accelerating

00:21:12.320 the U.S.-Israel security relationship

00:21:14.680 across nine different domains.

00:21:16.800 And if you look at those nine domains,

00:21:19.640 they're not programs like Iron Dome.

00:21:22.040 They're nine basket categories,

00:21:24.100 which have an unlimited number of programs contained in them.

00:21:27.260 So AI, quantum technology, bioweapons, these are all listed in the bill.

00:21:32.680 Virtually every category of weapons imaginable, including those that don't really exist yet.

00:21:37.700 Hang on. In the nine you have where all the most important technologies from that are going to come the most important weapon systems and technologies to cover it all.

00:21:46.140 This covers the – of anything – there's nothing that's not meaningful in these categories, and the categories are written so broadly.

00:21:52.900 it's the equivalent of the made in china 2025 when china listed the 10 industries they were

00:21:58.660 going to dominate by 2025 as we said the top five you know regenerative robotics uh artificial

00:22:04.900 artificial general intelligence uh quantum computing advanced chip design biotech it was

00:22:10.720 i said gosh the top five sectors they're talking about get you to the singularity that gets you to

00:22:17.460 the homo sapien, you know, 2.0, the Chinese, the same exact mentality is in this, where they've

00:22:25.020 laid out every crucial massive segment, not weapons program. We do have relationships 0.73

00:22:31.200 with South Korea, with NATO, with the United Kingdom, with people that we have fought wars

00:22:38.560 with victoriously, right, and passed on a programmatic basis, or maybe even a little

00:22:45.020 broader than programmatic, but fairly narrowly defined so that they're bringing their expertise

00:22:50.300 to something that we can both work together, but they're narrowly defined. There's not some

00:22:55.440 big blanket that we're going to basically take the future of national security, the future of

00:23:00.380 weapons systems, the future of the defense of this republic, and we're going to partner with

00:23:05.020 somebody. And that partner is going to have just as much say-so over it as we are, sir.

00:23:09.980 That's exactly right. And as far as I know, there's only one other executive agent model

00:23:14.900 at the Pentagon right now.

00:23:16.380 But like you're saying, it has nothing at all to do with Section 219.

00:23:20.740 It's with AUKUS, this submarine pact that we have

00:23:23.600 with Australia and the United Kingdom.

00:23:25.680 And you're right, that executive agent,

00:23:27.460 he worked backward from this kind of narrow and fixed objective.

00:23:30.580 It involves delivering these nuclear-powered submarines to Australia.

00:23:35.200 It's on a set timeline. 0.96

00:23:36.860 And it's in service of our strategic interest of containing China. 0.99

00:23:40.260 It's our goal.

00:23:41.320 And what's interesting is when AUKUS was enacted,

00:23:43.240 you had a lot of critics in Australia who were complaining that it would make Australia a vassal

00:23:47.720 to the United States. What Section 219 is going to do to the U.S.-Israeli security relationship

00:23:53.500 is it's going to make us a vassal to Israel, just like Australia is a vassal to the United States

00:23:58.680 under AUKUS. And like you're saying, Section 219 is much broader than this one submarine program

00:24:04.620 that's defined in our AUKUS relationship. It's all nine categories of AI, quantum computing,

00:24:10.460 And a 10th, which I should mention, which is this kind of broad, open-ended category, which says anything we haven't even mentioned here.

00:24:17.280 So it's open-ended and could include all sorts of partnerships that aren't even included in the bill.

00:24:23.540 Talk about the executive part of this, the executive part of this.

00:24:26.780 What is that?

00:24:27.960 Because it's kind of a – it's got an agent ability to it that I've never seen before.

00:24:33.320 You mentioned that.

00:24:34.560 Describe to the audience what it is and what it means.

00:24:38.500 So basically, they're appointing a specific office, and they're going to set up a permanent

00:24:43.480 office within the Pentagon to seek out and find all sorts of technologies that we can integrate

00:24:49.100 together and to avoid duplication. That's the instruction. So it's the exact logic of a merger.

00:24:55.580 Now, if you listen to the Israel lobby right now, they're going to deny that this is a merger at

00:25:00.760 all, that that's the goal. But if you just listen to Benjamin Netanyahu, he wrote in a letter,

00:25:06.280 I think to Congress about a month ago, that this is his plan for merging the U.S.-Israel

00:25:12.660 security relationship or the tech and defense industrial basis. And the goal is to sidestep

00:25:20.100 this waning support for Israel and the United States, a consequence of the live stream genocide 0.59

00:25:25.740 that Israel just perpetrated with U.S. tax dollar support that Americans don't want to contribute

00:25:31.620 to anymore and so they see that americans don't want this u.s security relationship that they want

00:25:36.620 to change it and they want to prevent americans from having democratic control over it so they're

00:25:41.520 going to hide it they're going to conceal it and they're going to cement it in the pentagon with

00:25:44.740 this executive agent this is the problem it hurts israel and look there's a lot of debate and i

00:25:49.580 don't agree it's actually a genocide i think it's over the top and there's a lot of debate whether

00:25:54.440 there's a genocide or not but let's say this people now are saying hey why are we tied up

00:25:58.560 this thing and tie up going forward i make the case that they're not if they're not a vassal

00:26:03.340 state and not a protector because if they are a vassal state or a protector they got to play by

00:26:07.280 our rules and our rules are we don't want an imperial israel we're not interested in lebanon 0.55

00:26:12.240 we're not interested in syria we're not interested going in and controlling tehran but it's in

00:26:17.080 israel's best interest for their sovereignty to stand on their own and this is not a way to do it

00:26:22.920 This is only going to bring up more controversy, et cetera, because people, folks got to understand, you're not just going to slap this in there and it's going to go away.

00:26:31.560 That is not going to happen.

00:26:33.340 OK, one, I think this can be stopped now.

00:26:35.780 To have our sovereignty, you can't have this.

00:26:38.140 We're a sovereign nation.

00:26:39.620 Yes.

00:26:40.220 Can we have people like South Korea, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, the Italians on certain weapons systems are fantastic.

00:26:47.800 And in Israel, they do have some technology is fantastic.

00:26:51.040 and on a weapons system basis, you make it.

00:26:53.140 This is not that.

00:26:54.500 This is a merger of the advance of what's coming now and in the future

00:26:58.440 of the defense industrial basis, and it's just not going to fly.

00:27:02.460 We're going to fight this tooth and nail to get it out here,

00:27:05.220 and this is one of the reasons they ran out of town,

00:27:06.980 and this is why they don't want to talk about it,

00:27:09.760 and they're going to give you happy talk if you discuss this.

00:27:14.360 But for Israel's own independence, and when they're independent,

00:27:18.860 if they want to take a tank column and go to Beirut, God bless you. If you want to take a tank 0.97

00:27:23.180 column and go to Damascus, God bless you. If you want to take a tank column and go to Tehran, God 0.99

00:27:28.000 bless you. We're not in, okay? We don't want to be in. We want to be out of the whole region.

00:27:32.820 Harrison, where do they go at American Conservative to get more of the information?

00:27:37.160 You and Kurt Mills are putting up all the time. Yeah, you know, we wrote a great piece,

00:27:41.360 or we wrote a couple. We had something with Tucker Carlson, an interview recently where he's

00:27:48.320 um gone you know really in depth onto this and on his programs as well uh talking about the dangers

00:27:53.340 of section 219 he interviewed dennis kucinich on it uh we interviewed him about it um and so yeah

00:27:59.200 i i'd say to read the american conservative the other thing i just want to mention if we have time

00:28:04.020 is that this is really moving in the opposite direction i mean as you said we already hang on

00:28:09.520 one second i'm just holding through the break by the way todd benson had to bounce benson had to

00:28:13.420 bounce. I'm going to get all his coordinates. Harrison's going to stick with us. Tasia's on

00:28:17.080 deck here in the war room on a Saturday morning. Next.

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00:29:53.660 switch today. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, by the way, Todd Benzman had to

00:30:03.680 bounce I want to thank Todd for giving us so much time on his first Saturday back he's over at

00:30:09.080 Heritage now and gonna be doing great work over there and Dr. Roberts the team want to thank him

00:30:13.280 ToddBenzman.com is where you can go get all his information he's got a great piece up on Fox

00:30:18.500 Digital and Fox Digital has some great pieces up on it ToddBenzman.com all one word or at

00:30:25.300 Benzman Todd kind of reverse that on x and Todd's always putting up great information he's now back

00:30:31.860 14 months in service at the government and now and now back over here and she'll be on the show

00:30:37.500 hopefully a lot to tell us like he told us in those years in the wilderness what was going on

00:30:43.880 and I agree with his commission I would actually hope that the government would just step in and

00:30:48.460 just get it done without doing a commission but if you got to do that let's do it Harrison

00:30:53.640 this thing is so over the top with the agent and all that where do people go to get more

00:31:00.560 information because this is a long way from being over. People think you can just stuff this thing

00:31:06.320 in there and that's going to be sorted out. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.

00:31:11.020 And I think this is one of the things that for defenders of Israel, I consider myself one,

00:31:16.020 you're putting people in harder and harder positions because this is all part of the 0.73

00:31:21.160 Israel First Imperial Israel Program. And it just hurt people. And it's not going to stop.

00:31:26.320 Getting this out is not going to stop, and it's going to be a major effort, and it's going to happen.

00:31:30.840 This is never going to be allowed to merge the industrial bases of the United States.

00:31:35.820 We have our own sovereignty and our own deal, and yes, we can choose allies for projects or even for campaigns, and we should be able to have the freedom to do that, not be locked in.

00:31:48.060 Harrison, where do people get more information?

00:31:49.980 I know you guys are doing a great job of going through all this.

00:31:52.900 Yeah, so I definitely encourage everyone to check out the American Conservative.

00:31:56.340 We've been covering it a bunch.

00:31:57.600 Tucker Carlson's been covering it.

00:31:58.900 The Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft also has excellent coverage of Section 219.

00:32:05.000 And as you said, it's not going away.

00:32:06.300 The goal is to make this permanent, to cement the really one-sided U.S.-Israel security relationship.

00:32:14.380 So it's important, I think, for people to know what's going on.

00:32:18.040 Thank you very much.

00:32:19.740 We're going to spend a lot more time on this.

00:32:21.180 This is one of the reasons they skedaddle out of town.

00:32:23.080 Think about this.

00:32:23.560 They're gone until after Labor Day, the House and the Senate.

00:32:27.980 This is why we should have a throwdown on the Senate right now on this issue and many others.

00:32:31.220 Harrison, thank you so much.

00:32:32.220 Appreciate you.

00:32:33.480 Thank you.

00:32:33.820 Todd Benzman, Harrison Berger of American Reserve.

00:32:36.320 Todd Benzman of Heritage.

00:32:37.320 Want to thank them.

00:32:37.980 EJ.

00:32:39.040 Tage Gill, a bunch of stuff to go through.

00:32:41.540 Number one, overall, the Hill newspaper has a huge article today from inside sources on the massive bombing campaign.

00:32:48.600 They do highlight in the piece that when they talk to senior Trump administration officials and the intelligence services, they still get down to, regardless of the bombing campaign, that this, in their minds, is going to come down to control of Hormuz.

00:33:06.240 Before I talk about the New York Post exclusive on this massive operation, military operation, to get the nuclear material, just your overall thoughts.

00:33:15.780 Where do you think we are?

00:33:16.820 I mean, you spent decades in that region.

00:33:20.340 Where do you think we are in this?

00:33:21.440 And how do you read the tea leaves of what's being leaked out about what they're thinking about as one option is to now go down and double or triple down?

00:33:30.480 Yeah, I think we're in the beginning stages of a forever war if we continue on the path that we're on. 0.79

00:33:35.980 Panetta says we need to take control of the strait to have leverage with Iran. 0.97

00:33:41.080 Taking control of the strait is easier said than done. 0.62

00:33:43.500 We've been trying to take control of this strait for months.

00:33:47.000 Remember, we have Operation Freedom and this whole thing.

00:33:51.880 It's not an easy thing to do.

00:33:53.680 Remember, the whole entire coastline of Iran on the Persian Gulf has caves and all kinds of underground stuff that have boats, unmanned boats, missiles, and drones.

00:34:06.880 That's the kicker.

00:34:08.060 How do you how do you stop all the boats, drones and missiles to protect our ships once we go in and take control of the strait?

00:34:15.960 So it's that that's that's a big task for Trump to do.

00:34:21.620 So it can be done, but it's going to be costly and it's going to take a long time.

00:34:27.420 I think the better option is get back to the negotiating table.

00:34:32.700 Well, his but his theory of the case is you can't get back to the negotiating table, anything meaningful.

00:34:37.160 is the president quoted until they feel more pain look the persian gulf i think i was right

00:34:43.040 yesterday i said 600 miles i think it's 610 miles from hormuz to karg island um and i think um the

00:34:50.240 thing we just said 400 450 which is hey in that part of the world it's close just karg island i

00:34:55.440 mean the the scale of iran it's 90 plus million people it's massive he put it on the map of the

00:35:02.380 united states i think it takes up like the eastern half of the country it's just it's enormous

00:35:05.880 right and it's also like the surface of the moon as you know it's got mountains like the rocky

00:35:10.680 mountains got deserts i mean it's a inhospitable place and tehran is so far north from the persian

00:35:16.820 gulf i mean it's all the way up to the northern part of the country uh but even talking about

00:35:21.600 karg island karg island is 600 miles folks this is not this is not the straight of uh this is not

00:35:29.200 the long island sound okay this is 610 miles from the mouth to get to karg island i mean

00:35:35.780 even to mount an assault from there you probably have to come to an arab country correct right

00:35:40.780 right you if you try to do a naval assault you have to go through the straits of hormuz and then 0.88

00:35:44.980 you face the iranian coast and then remember it's not just the iranian coast they have missiles and

00:35:50.340 drones everywhere in the mountains around iran and they've flown them all the way to cyprus these

00:35:55.540 shaheed drones so they can shoot these drones from deep inside of iran and hit one of our ships in

00:36:01.500 the Gulf. Remember when Trump first took office, we were fighting the Houthis to get the Red Sea

00:36:07.660 open. And we lost two F-18s off an aircraft carrier because they weren't tied down because

00:36:12.360 these aircraft carriers had to take evasive maneuvers to dodge drones and missiles from the

00:36:18.200 Houthis. So that same kind of scenario could happen inside the Gulf. And all it takes is for them

00:36:24.860 to get lucky once. We have to be on guard every time. We have to defend against every single

00:36:31.280 missile on every single drone they just have to get one hit on one of our ships and if it's a one

00:36:36.760 of these ballistic missiles or you know some people say they have we don't know it's not

00:36:41.780 confirmed yet that they have hypersonic anti-ship missiles but they do have ship anti-ship missiles

00:36:46.800 that go Mach 3 Mach 4 Mach 5 plus is what gets you into the hypersonic realm but if they if

00:36:53.700 they're if they're shooting from the coastline missiles that go Mach 3 Mach 4 that's a very

00:36:58.300 dangerous situation to get in our ship to Karg Island to support the assault. We can fly in from

00:37:04.460 Qatar and we have bases all over Kuwait. We could do that. We can launch from there. But the problem

00:37:09.800 is when we move the assets into Kuwait or into Qatar to stage for the assault on Karg Island,

00:37:16.980 the Russian and Chinese satellites are watching everything we do and they give all that

00:37:21.940 information to iran so it's hard to obtain the element of surprise and if you get the element

00:37:29.140 of surprise how can you maintain it with all these satellites everywhere now let's go to the

00:37:34.520 new york post can we go to the new york post for a second um i want to get because they they're

00:37:39.240 working on a plan it's exclusive the new york post has done great reporting on all the military

00:37:43.000 operations this is a if president trump because remember his focus has been from the beginning

00:37:49.520 And this was the 12-day war when he had the massive expeditionary force was to basically take the nuclear program of the Iranians and totally obliterate it, which he said happened back in June of last year.

00:38:04.860 And I think he was absolutely corrected.

00:38:06.740 Now, there may be certain aspects of it.

00:38:09.220 This is supposedly supposed to cover the aspects of it.

00:38:11.840 But just take a second and walk through what the building blocks of this are, because this is a sophisticated plan, but it's also requires a lot of folks, a lot of folks there for a while.

00:38:24.780 Walk us through it, Tej.

00:38:27.140 Yeah, this is a very complex attack.

00:38:31.320 Pickaxe Mountain, that's the one everybody's talking about lately.

00:38:33.780 That's the one we did not hit last June.

00:38:35.760 And that's the deepest one.

00:38:36.980 they say it's 100 meters deep and it's and it's buried under hard rock not granite but hard rock

00:38:42.960 for dough for dough is the one we hit last june with the six 30 000 pound uh massive ordinance 0.98

00:38:49.100 penetrators that the b2s dropped and and that one is 80 meters deep and now they're saying we don't 0.98

00:38:55.300 know if we destroyed everything so to really destroy everything you have to get into these 0.86

00:38:59.980 mountains and set explosives and blow them up from the inside out the the mission that the

00:39:06.600 new york post is talking about will be a one of our special mission units like seal team six or

00:39:12.440 delta force would do this they're they're trained in the nuclear non-proliferation arena and then

00:39:17.020 the army would send in their eod team with them and these guys they specialize in the

00:39:23.040 weapons of mass destruction so first off so so so hang on hang on a second you have here we have

00:39:31.400 air supremacy right not superiority air supremacy so you'd be able to do an insertion but they've

00:39:38.660 got it covered with their own combat troops right so you're going to have to take out the combat

00:39:44.440 troops that surround it then get in do the work and then extract everybody correct is like three

00:39:50.300 phases of this operation? Supposedly we have air supremacy, but remember last time when the F-15

00:39:56.360 got shot down, when the two pilots were on the ground, we had an F-15 shot down. We had an A-10

00:40:01.940 shot down that ejected over the Gulf and we had another A-10 hit in the air and then multiple

00:40:06.100 tankers. So we've destroyed all their radar batteries and all their surface air batteries

00:40:11.200 that are on the ground. But the problem is they have them underground and they can roll them out

00:40:14.980 And they're still shooting down our drones, a lot of them.

00:40:18.840 We've lost like 35 drones in the air.

00:40:21.340 So it's still considered contested airspace.

00:40:26.440 We don't own all of the airspace.

00:40:28.460 So most of our bombing runs are coming.

00:40:31.660 We get to the edge of the contested airspace and shoot from there.

00:40:35.120 So flying deep in there, we can do it.

00:40:36.980 I mean, look, we flew into Abbottabad, Pakistan, 0.77

00:40:41.120 to do the bin Laden rage on stealth helicopters. 0.60

00:40:43.420 I mean, we have all kinds of crazy technology we haven't used yet. 0.70

00:40:46.360 So we can get in there.

00:40:48.280 But the question is, can we get in there and not be hit by any anti-aircraft that they have, you know, in a cave or in a missile somewhere? 0.61

00:40:57.080 Because remember, Iran is a ring of mountains. 0.97

00:40:58.920 So we have to go into that ring. 0.90

00:41:00.600 And Pickaxe Mountain is basically dead center in the middle of Iran.

00:41:05.080 And then Fordow is near there.

00:41:07.520 So we have to go into these.

00:41:08.980 We have to fly into these facilities.

00:41:10.160 We have to fly a large assault force in there.

00:41:13.420 special mission unit guys that are trained to do this. And then we have to have blocking

00:41:17.220 positions, another whole force that would basically create a steel ring around the assaulters. So

00:41:24.620 they're going to be facing upwards, the assaulters are facing in. So the assaulters work the target

00:41:29.160 and then the blocking force and blocking positions, they have to form a ring of containment and

00:41:35.340 protect the assaulters. Because once these planes get in there and the gig is up, Iran's going to 0.93

00:41:41.300 send everything they have there and the ground troops are not a big deal our guys can go through 0.97

00:41:46.220 them like a hot knife through butter the problem is when they start shooting ballistic missiles and

00:41:50.940 rockets at the assault at the assaulters and then also the drones remember they we don't have any

00:41:57.460 idea how many drones they i've seen reports they still have 70 80 000 of the shaheed drones and

00:42:02.600 they have underground factories that are manufacturing these these costs the estimates

00:42:06.840 are $10,000 to $40,000 a drone, and they start shooting waves at drones at these assault sites,

00:42:11.940 and that could be where the problem comes in. And our guys are worth so much. What is the cost

00:42:18.320 worth? And then on the other hand, non-nuclear proliferation is worth so much, so the cost is

00:42:26.220 there. And our guys that are doing these jobs, they know the risk, and they signed up for this.

00:42:31.760 It's a voluntary mission. And in these units, you go through multiple levels of vetting to get

00:42:35.280 there so it they're they're ready to die for this mission but is it worth it that's the question

00:42:40.840 and what what is going to be the cost of this or should we just fly more b2s over there and

00:42:46.860 continue to drop these 30 000 pound bombs on these sites the pickaxe and foredoe and then the other

00:42:52.140 the other sites in the tans that's that's above ground that's where they shot the tomahawks

00:42:55.940 last june so that's the question steve is is is a cost worth the outcome okay hang on for a second

00:43:04.380 Tej, we're going to go on a short commercial break.

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00:49:24.380 and tay he's talking about two great companies started by young entrepreneurs what do you got

00:49:29.060 for us yeah great to see you steve uh so just heads up we are still currently running the sale

00:49:34.640 for our towel moisturizer and sacred healing salve.

00:49:38.300 So if you did want to take advantage of it,

00:49:39.960 you can use code SKIN at checkout for 20% off any one-time order.

00:49:44.840 And then I just wanted to touch on the sacred healing salve

00:49:47.200 just because we've been having amazing reviews coming in

00:49:49.520 from people that have had amazing success with it

00:49:52.520 in regards to healing a lot of knee pain and elbow pain

00:49:54.860 that they've been struggling with for a while,

00:49:56.960 as well as helping to heal a lot of cuts and bruises pretty fast.

00:50:00.600 So for anyone that doesn't know, within the product,

00:50:03.860 we have the comfrey and comfrey has just been used for centuries to support things like pain relief

00:50:08.580 inflammation bruising and even tissue repair so you know a lot of people love to use it for things

00:50:14.380 like sore muscles if you have joint pain swelling even arthritis support it helps calm that down

00:50:19.520 quite a bit but basically just take a little bit you rub it on to any area of your body that needs

00:50:24.060 relief and then we also paired the comfrey with other nourishing herbs to help soothe things like

00:50:28.900 the cuts the scrapes the bruises and even insect bites it helps calm those down quite a bit so

00:50:34.400 overall it's just an incredibly powerful and versatile product and like i mentioned

00:50:38.500 if you do struggle things like the joint pain the muscle soreness or have some burns and scrapes

00:50:44.080 this is an organic product that heals a lot of those things pretty quickly and provides lasting

00:50:48.320 relief so i encourage people to check that product out and as always if you have questions you can

00:50:52.420 reach out to us yeah how do they get where they go on the site and how they reach out to you

00:50:57.780 Because I know I'm getting tremendous feedback on people that have actually contacted you and you've walked into the products.

00:51:03.820 Where do they go?

00:51:04.520 Yeah, 100%.

00:51:05.820 So you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com or just type in Sacred Human at Google.

00:51:10.220 And like I mentioned, through this weekend, you can use code SKIN at checkout for 20% off the tallow moisturizer as well as the sacred healing side.

00:51:21.100 Right before we go, just spend a minute on your focus on being an American company.

00:51:26.360 You do everything. You've put this together with a very pro-American outlook to the thing that you've walked away from operating margin and for your profits being higher to do this.

00:51:39.180 Walk me just through it. We've got about a minute.

00:51:41.900 Yeah. So originally, part of the reason why we started the business is because we noticed that all these other supplement companies and health product companies were outsourcing everything, usually to China, where they can make everything pretty cheap.

00:51:53.020 but obviously with that it comes a lot of issues with quality control so we just wanted to start

00:51:59.460 a company where everything's produced right here in the usa it's definitely more expensive but like

00:52:04.060 i mentioned before we don't mind taking a hit on the margins to produce quality products where we

00:52:08.660 have real insight and quality over the products that we're making as well as the ingredients that

00:52:13.680 we're using so all of our products are also third-party lab tested so we're testing for

00:52:18.240 things like heavy metals and purity which most companies don't do so that's always been our main

00:52:23.080 focus is just to make sure that we're producing the best products possible in the usa uh supporting

00:52:27.980 our country and not just outsourcing everything uh overseas like most companies do so that's

00:52:34.980 always our promise um like i said yeah it's fantastic it's amazing great company in a great

00:52:43.220 spirit trevor thank you thank you for taking time away from the weekend to join us here

00:52:46.520 big discount sacred human health go check it out immerse yourself in the information okay we're

00:52:52.480 going to be around on social media all weekend if anything's happening maybe we'll jump back on here

00:52:57.520 see you back here at 10 a.m otherwise see you back here 10 a.m eastern daylight time

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Bannon's War Room - July 25, 2026

Episode 5544： Israeli Defense, And The Ongoing War

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