Bannon's War Room - Episode 5540： Nationalism Taking Over The Arts In America; Interior Enforcement Of Immigration

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.840 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.440 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.180 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.780 like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people

00:00:32.600 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save

00:00:40.260 my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. 0.62

00:00:47.720 friday 24 july year of our lord 2026 um i didn't realize until last night after wade miller said it

00:01:05.340 i didn't quite realize that the house had actually skipped out it was gone they're gone

00:01:12.340 i want you now theoretically the august research the recess was not supposed to start for these

00:01:18.000 guys until i guess the first week of august or whatever but they weren't back to 14 september

00:01:22.180 original plan they're gone now they're supposedly back labor day weekend or whatever but they're

00:01:30.420 gone you know where they're gone they're gone uh because it's not like they're going to go back

00:01:36.500 and have town halls and start campaigning hard uh they're gone because they want to avoid

00:01:41.540 tough questions from people particularly on this section 219 exactly what's going on why there was

00:01:46.900 no debate what can be done about this and and many more things so we'll have kind of ideas or

00:01:55.140 concepts about if you do have a town hall or if you do run into your congressman at getting a

00:02:00.800 cup of coffee you know the types of things that might be helpful to bring up because it is all

00:02:06.220 important for the mega movement that we hold serve here in these midterm elections uh also

00:02:12.200 with thune doing the same that we had wade miller on last night wade miller's a cra one of the

00:02:17.640 smartest guys out there uh you know that was my brain hurt after that was over right all these

00:02:23.640 perturbations and what they all are let's be blunt they're all gimmicks they're different gimmicks

00:02:29.440 to get around a recalcitrant Senate about the Save America Act,

00:02:35.920 what is absolutely central.

00:02:38.100 We're going to play a clip.

00:02:39.340 We're going to do something different.

00:02:40.060 We're going to go to Matthew Taylor right now at Liberty Plaza

00:02:42.780 and discuss kind of, I think, this new appreciation of nationalism

00:02:48.500 that is coming up as one of the great things about the 250th reconsideration

00:02:55.420 and commemoration and celebration of our revolution. 0.51

00:02:59.440 But in the next block, we're going to do a cold open, and the cold open's got Ezra Klein and one of his guests on his podcast that explains better than anyone why what President Trump released last night in voter integrity and stealing of elections in the stolen 2020 election is inextricably linked to the invasion of our country and the taking over of our country by illegal immigrants.

00:03:26.880 these phony quote-unquote legal immigrant deals and the people behind them the nations behind

00:03:33.080 them the power behind them the corporate power behind them the oligarchs behind them the money

00:03:38.980 on wall street behind them and the dark money behind them this is kind of the gordian knot we

00:03:44.720 have to we have to cut and we're going to have to do it they had this off-site thing at the you know

00:03:51.960 they axio said all the leaders are coming up for you know president trump's campaign and they came

00:03:56.660 out yesterday and put out that what they're really going to emphasize the big beautiful bill

00:04:01.040 the um no tax on tips no tax on overtime and no tax on social security those are all populist

00:04:09.200 wins and they were great elements of the big beautiful bill but it's like you're seeing in

00:04:14.320 the polling for the sealing the border the president trump sealed the border in 60 days

00:04:18.900 maybe 90 days it's unbelievable it's heroic but voters they take that as yes he's serious if he

00:04:26.440 tells us something is going to be serious in the future. So we'll give him credit for that.

00:04:29.640 But look, it's just human nature. I would like to say it's something different, but it's like,

00:04:36.500 okay, what have you done for me today? That was yesterday. It resonates, but it doesn't resonate

00:04:41.480 enough to actually win. It's powerful because it shows you, if you say you're going to do something,

00:04:48.760 I'm going to do it. And closing the border was absolutely essential to stop the invasion that

00:04:53.820 Biden and the NGOs and the Biden, these radicals, as you see, work on every day. So we're going to

00:04:59.980 tie all this together and show how it impacts exactly where we are today as a country. Most

00:05:05.740 importantly, the solutions. And we're going to have Mark Morgan on here. We're going to talk

00:05:09.460 about internal enforcement, mass deportations, all of it. But I want to go down. Matthew,

00:05:15.640 once again, tell us where you are and why is this so important? This is kind of,

00:05:19.740 I believe in the entire celebration in the states, everything on the mall, everything has been done because this is an ongoing process that this may be the most important legacy of everything that we've done up to date for the commemoration of the revolution, because it gets back not just to simply core values.

00:05:38.660 It does it in an artistic manner, right, that calls us to our higher purpose.

00:05:45.000 It's very powerful, and it's going to be there for a while.

00:05:47.960 And you can go and tell the stories and talk about the spirit of liberty.

00:05:53.080 And it's just – it's the great legacy of President Trump of this celebration, although it's gone under the radar somewhat.

00:06:01.120 The New York Times today has an incredible piece.

00:06:04.560 If we can put that incredible piece on you, Matthew, as I've told people for years, you're one of the most serious artists in the MAGA movement, right?

00:06:12.820 As I told the New York Times, you're an artist first and kind of MAGA conservative second.

00:06:17.680 But the manifestation, and this comes also from Vince Haley.

00:06:23.020 And Vince is one of the biggest brains, been in the White House forever, a speechwriter, head of the Domestic Policy Council, one of the smartest people we have.

00:06:30.520 but also understands how you have to kind of call people to raise up their inner greatness, embrace it, and use that as the fight ahead.

00:06:44.420 So tell us where you are and why is this kind of the most important pivot point we have now in the imperial capital to talk about our revolution and what it means for us today and in the future, sir?

00:06:56.420 well steve i'm here at freedom plaza and freedom plaza is right next to the white house

00:07:03.720 at the top of the monumental core in washington dc and we're standing among an amazing new

00:07:10.080 installation of 21 actually 22 statues and 21 original statues that basically tell the entire

00:07:17.400 story of the revolution from the perspective of the common man a lot of these statues in this in

00:07:23.840 this park are people that are either unknown or lesser known founding fathers like Caesar Rodney.

00:07:31.140 But it shows that ordinary citizens and ordinary people can do extraordinary things.

00:07:36.020 It also shows that basically we are back to building big things again. This idea that we

00:07:41.480 cannot build things and we cannot build big things, we cannot install statues and do these

00:07:45.600 things. That's the America of the past. That's been given to China and these other places.

00:07:51.340 That's just not true.

00:07:52.640 This place stands as a monument to the fact that America is America first in building, America first in art.

00:08:00.460 We are back and we are building bigger than ever.

00:08:03.560 And, of course, under the president, he has great visions for Washington and great visions for building big things.

00:08:08.480 And so come here and bring your family.

00:08:10.460 I come here almost every day just to see citizens from across the country and actually also globally.

00:08:16.140 Come here and read these stories of these individual soldiers.

00:08:19.980 We have six black patriots and six white patriots. We have a resurrected Caesar Rodney statue.

00:08:25.800 We have the largest prison ship martyr memorial in the country. One of I think of only two.

00:08:33.240 And of course, the plaza itself has been restored because of the vision of this administration to make D.C. beautiful again.

00:08:39.160 And of course, as a local, I greatly appreciate that. But this is just the beginning.

00:08:43.500 This is just the start of reasserting America's dominance in creativity and in building and in aesthetics.

00:08:52.140 And so, you know, art to me is very important, as you said. Culture is very important to me.

00:08:56.080 And this was an opportunity, thanks to Vince Haley, to allow me to be a sculptor again and design things and build things for the citizens.

00:09:04.400 And so I'm eternally grateful to Vince, and I'm eternally grateful to the American people for coming here and visiting this beautiful gift that we've given them.

00:09:13.500 this reawakening, reawakening of American nationalism, because we're a populist nationalist

00:09:19.380 movement. And the emphasis in the first part has been a little more populist, although,

00:09:23.220 as you know, I'm the first to say it ain't populist enough, particularly on the economic side.

00:09:27.480 The nationalism now, the American first part of this, the nationalism, I think, is taking,

00:09:32.380 deservedly getting more traction. I've worked for you for, I don't know, 18 years or so. Dave

00:09:38.200 Bossie worked with Dave Bossie. Very early on in our first films, what we were talking about was

00:09:42.700 is kind of the red-green alliance.

00:09:45.800 We could see it happening, and we had discussed it in our films,

00:09:48.800 this Marxism combined with jihadism that was going to be the central threat

00:09:54.340 domestically here to the United States of America.

00:09:57.220 You could see it happening in London.

00:09:58.740 You could hear it happening in France.

00:10:01.160 Freedom Plaza and what Vince and you have conceived up

00:10:04.360 and then built in record time is one of the most important parts

00:10:09.480 of how you counter this argument.

00:10:11.680 Right now, we have a capitalist system with almost no capitalists.

00:10:14.920 We have to sort that out.

00:10:16.500 This is why the polling is saying, well, these young people don't really understand capitalism,

00:10:19.580 what they know, they don't like.

00:10:21.340 But in any type of war you have, particularly narrative war,

00:10:24.720 the first thing you have to do is take the moral high ground.

00:10:27.040 You have to take and you have to inspire people for their deepest, deepest,

00:10:32.360 you know, in the depths of their soul.

00:10:35.140 That is exactly what this does.

00:10:37.100 We go back to the founding revolutionary generation.

00:10:39.820 We go back to the nation builders of this country. We look at the arc of our story. Imperfect as it is, you get the inspiration that, yes, this country is a solution for mankind, but we have to do it here in the United States.

00:10:53.780 That's why Freedom Plaza, you've done the prison ships, you've done the soldiers, right?

00:10:58.820 You've got that magnificent statue, if you can give us a second, on the spirit of liberty.

00:11:06.440 It's a great kickoff to the great fight. 0.79

00:11:09.940 If you're going to fight what Mandami stands for and all the other Marxist jihadists, you better get it together to take the high ground first and then hit them, sir.

00:11:19.600 well absolutely you brought up the spirit of liberty and the spirit of liberty is one of the

00:11:26.140 focal points of this exhibition she is a 21st century icon of liberty and freedom that follows

00:11:33.260 in the tradition of the statue of liberty and the statue of freedom you know we have these statues

00:11:38.080 and we look back and we go oh that's a long time ago that's 100 150 years ago she is now she holds

00:11:43.800 the declaration of independence in one of her hands a complete replica of the declaration and

00:11:48.640 She holds a sword in the other side of her hand, and on her base, it tells the entire story of the revolution.

00:11:55.220 There's a relief of the signing of the Declaration.

00:11:58.740 There's a relief of the crossing of the Delaware, and there's a relief of the surrender at Yorktown.

00:12:04.240 And what she is here to do is create a brand-new 21st-century icon of something that represents what all of the people in this plaza fought and died for,

00:12:14.540 This freedom that is always, as Reagan said, one generation away from disappearing.

00:12:20.300 And so, again, the first thing you do if you want to destroy a civilization like this is destroy their statues, tear down their past, eliminate the past.

00:12:29.760 And Caesar Rodney, of course, was torn down in 2020.

00:12:32.840 He was actually not taken down by rioters.

00:12:35.200 He was actually taken down by the government in Delaware and put in a box.

00:12:39.440 So we went and we found him and we re-erected him in this plaza. And so everything about this plaza from the citizen soldier to the spirit of liberty to Caesar Rodney's ride to the prison ship memorial, it basically exemplifies American exceptionalism embodied in a space, in a civic space.

00:12:59.800 So you can experience it and you can be inspired by it.

00:13:03.000 You can walk out saying, wow, that guy, he was just a professor and he faced off against 2,000 British soldiers and then they killed him and we won the war anyway.

00:13:11.960 So that's really what you need to leave here with.

00:13:14.540 You need to leave here with this idea that this is real.

00:13:17.120 These are real people just like you and me.

00:13:19.520 And then enjoy the beauty of it.

00:13:21.340 I mean aesthetics still matter.

00:13:23.120 Even as the Duchamp is modernist that I am, I still love classical artwork as well.

00:13:28.480 So please come to Freedom Plaza and enjoy the statues and walk away inspired.

00:13:34.200 Hang on for one second.

00:13:35.160 I just want to hold you for a quick minute.

00:13:36.900 I know we've got to get our cameraman back over to the White House.

00:13:39.680 Just hang on.

00:13:40.180 We'll take a short commercial break.

00:13:41.200 I just can come on and mention the article and make sure everybody reads it.

00:13:44.000 Matthew Taylor working with Vince Haley at the White House, one of the big brains in back of Freedom Plaza.

00:13:53.160 Just incredible.

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00:16:18.200 today.

00:16:20.280 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:16:22.320 Bannon.

00:16:23.660 Okay, we're going to do a long cold open here. So Matthew,

00:16:26.040 where do people go to see the

00:16:28.080 spirit of liberty? Where do they go to see all of

00:16:30.060 this? Where do they go right now?

00:16:33.480 You can go

00:16:34.020 to Freedom Plaza. It's at 14th

00:16:35.900 in Pennsylvania. It's near the Willard, near

00:16:37.880 the City Hall, and near the White House.

00:16:40.280 And you can find out more about Freedom Plaza

00:16:41.960 on the National Park Service's website.

00:16:45.200 Thank you, brother.

00:16:46.260 Great article on the New York Times. We'll

00:16:47.880 push it out, and I'll talk to you after the show. Thank you. We got an amazing cold open this

00:16:52.600 morning. We want to start kickoff today with Matthew. Let's go to the cold open. I will

00:16:56.940 read you afterwards. The Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Congressman Jim Jordan,

00:17:03.000 is now asking Trump's DOJ to investigate former special counsel Jack Smith. Late last night,

00:17:09.340 Jordan sent a criminal referral to Todd Blanche, accusing Smith of lying to Congress about his

00:17:15.180 investigation into Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election.

00:17:19.200 Now, folks, let's be clear. There's no evidence, non-zero, not a nilch that Jack Smith lied about

00:17:28.020 anything under oath, period. But we do know the president and his allies want to punish Smith

00:17:34.200 for telling the truth about the president's actions. And the stunt follows repeated calls

00:17:39.960 for Trump, by Trump, and from others around Smith to be prosecuted. Tonight, Smith's legal team is

00:17:47.320 fighting back. Smith's lawyers have sent a letter to Jordan and Blanche saying this absurd criminal

00:17:52.940 referral, quote, reflects a chilling eagerness to weaponize the justice system. You've got a

00:17:59.440 statement from Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskins on vindictive criminal referrals. This is what

00:18:06.160 He said yesterday, this referral deliberately distorts and misstates the facts, including what questions the Republicans actually asked at Mr. Smith's interview.

00:18:18.380 The Republicans fault Mr. Smith for not reading the minds of congressional investigators and not for volunteering information they didn't ask for.

00:18:26.640 This is absurd.

00:18:27.480 Mr. Smith may be telegenic, but he's not telepathic.

00:18:31.280 Very true statement.

00:18:32.360 And this is all out of this, you know, effort now, as we saw with Josh Hawley and his crazy, leaving out a significant part of the point in the question, you know, saying that Mr. Smith deliberately lied, that he, you know, lied before Congress.

00:18:52.180 Everybody looking at this know that didn't happen.

00:18:55.320 What's your take on that, knowing Jack Smith, having been in that process and that crucible with him?

00:19:02.640 I said this about Jack Smith.

00:19:04.460 I've never met the man.

00:19:05.840 I just observed the man from a great distance.

00:19:09.460 And he strikes me as someone you just don't want to trifle with at the end of the day.

00:19:13.600 At the end of the day, this is a brother you just don't want to get in close quarters with because you will find out otherwise.

00:19:19.120 And I think that that's that is more threatening to Trump than anything else, because he is relentless in his pursuit of justice. 0.77

00:19:30.280 And that's why this criminal referral crap is being leveled up right now.

00:19:35.540 Yeah. So I've I've known Jack Smith for a long time when he was chief of the chief of the public integrity section. 0.81

00:19:43.760 Then I was a spokesman for the for the criminal division.

00:19:46.360 So he is somebody that just does what he should. Right. He follows the facts. He follows he does the right thing in the right way.

00:19:55.780 And if he felt that he could walk away from from that case, he would have.

00:20:00.300 And so I think what people what people see is they they are trying to manufacture anything they can to make life difficult for him because the president has multiple times said he wants Jack Jack Smith to be criminally indicted about this.

00:20:20.360 But just to be clear as day about this, just tell us what you make of the allegations Republicans are making in this referral.

00:20:26.740 sure because this is one of these instances where i know that usually we're very careful to say

00:20:34.440 you know it seems like or it appears but this is one where there's just no two ways about it that

00:20:42.340 this is preposterous and the easiest way to do that is to just tell you what is alleged

00:20:48.420 what is alleged is that jack smith lied in response to the following question he was asked

00:20:55.680 Did you get the content of text messages from members of Congress through a search warrant?

00:21:05.160 Did you get the content of text messages of members of Congress through a search warrant?

00:21:10.780 To which he said, no, I didn't.

00:21:13.120 I only got telephone records through this other process.

00:21:17.960 That is 100 percent truthful.

00:21:22.560 The fact that Jack Smith also got documents from the National Archives was not asked.

00:21:29.520 He was in any way, shape or form.

00:21:32.320 So this story is not just about the sort of retribution that we've seen from the Department of Justice.

00:21:39.640 To me, this is the complicity of, in this case, Jim Jordan, who is the signatory of the letter with doing the referral.

00:21:51.420 On its face, it is not perjury, period.

00:21:57.240 I'd love to.

00:21:58.220 I usually am more careful to say, you know, it seems like or we don't know everything they have.

00:22:03.160 You cannot read this letter and just in any way view this as perjury.

00:22:09.300 You're telling us you're going to try it again and we should listen to them and actually be prepared this time.

00:22:13.840 Yeah. And in fact, your state of Arizona had its primary on Tuesday.

00:22:17.260 And the Republicans that won there are a sort of slate of election deniers, including Andy Biggs.

00:22:23.180 I mean, Andy Biggs, who's a member of Congress in the Arizona caucus.

00:22:28.920 You served alongside him as a Democrat.

00:22:30.680 He's a Republican, obviously.

00:22:31.920 He'll be the nominee for governor.

00:22:33.240 Alexander Coloden, Warren Peterson.

00:22:35.680 But Biggs wasn't just a, you know, he wasn't just someone who sort of was around and, you know, voted not to certify.

00:22:40.860 He was one of the more central figures.

00:22:43.500 And he's, you know, running for governor.

00:22:46.780 Absolutely.

00:22:47.260 And they're all active pushers of election denialism altogether, not just for the 2020 election, for the 2022 election, for the 2024 election.

00:22:55.540 Basically, any time Democrats win, it must have been stolen from them.

00:22:58.540 It's not just that they have horrible politics and they're horrible politicians.

00:23:01.800 But fact is, you know, if these guys win by some sheer miracle, because I don't think they are. 0.99

00:23:06.120 This is pretty much a slate of losers.

00:23:08.000 But if they win, they will actually do whatever this president wants them to do in order for them to secure the 2028 election for Republicans. 0.94

00:23:18.040 So, you know, I'm glad that we have a slate of Democrats going to stop these guys.

00:23:22.460 These are probably the worst of the worst Republicans that are running.

00:23:25.720 Luckily, the Arizona voter is fairly moderate, believes in democracy, whether Democrats or Republicans are independent. 0.95

00:23:31.560 And they're going to stop these crazies from being elected.

00:23:33.580 But it does not mean that we can really trust the DOJ, DHS, or anything that is going to be led by Donald Trump is not going to act in a nefarious manner come 2026 election.

00:23:44.680 So we have to prepare for every possibility.

00:23:47.280 But you see them, especially Donald Trump, he has tied everything to the SAVE Act.

00:23:52.360 He goes, affordability, it's a made-up word, affordability housing, big yawn, I'll only do it if you attach the SAVE Act.

00:24:00.600 So the SAVE Act is one big component, right?

00:24:02.980 Save Act, essentially voter suppression. All right. So we got one one act right there.

00:24:07.180 Why the obsession with mail-in ballots? Well, this has been a long running

00:24:12.640 fascination amongst the election denier movement. It the one of the central as I see it,

00:24:23.020 there are two central pillars of MAGA ism. One is election denial around the 2020 election that

00:24:29.480 Really, to be MAGA, you have to believe that the 2020 election was rigged.

00:24:36.280 There are all sorts of activists, right-wing activists, anti-voting activists, who spent

00:24:44.260 years saying that they had found evidence of ballot stuffing.

00:24:50.740 There were documentaries that ended up being later totally debunked about...

00:24:59.480 um, people acting as mules to stuff ballots. And, and really what that, um, started as was,

00:25:06.680 uh, a backlash, a reaction to measures to, to pro voting measures that emerged, uh, when a big

00:25:15.540 thing happened in 2020, which was the pandemic. And so it was harder to go to the polls. People

00:25:21.160 were stuck at home. Congregating in poll sites was going to be riskier. And so all sorts of

00:25:29.660 states and municipalities around the country enacted measures to make it easier to vote,

00:25:35.500 either absentee or early voting or through the mail. And all of those are anathema to people

00:25:43.120 who want to make it harder to vote. And so those pro-access measures were sort of transmuted

00:25:50.560 into this broad conspiracy to steal the election from Donald Trump. And so that's one

00:25:59.060 basically like constant pillar of the MAGA movement. And the other one is being anti-immigrant,

00:26:08.000 Which goes back to Trump's, you know, going coming down the escalator. And although these things may seem like disparate issues, they are, in fact, intimately linked through the racist Great Replacement theory that was popularized by Fox News for a very long time and now has become just a given on the right.

00:26:31.900 Yeah, it's everywhere. And for people who aren't familiar, the great replacement theory posits that democratic or liberal elites sometimes coded as Jewish people are are, quote unquote, importing foreigners typically understood as brown or black skinned from from places that Trump and others refer to in ways that I'm not going to repeat here.

00:26:58.520 And that that that that those liberal elites are bringing in foreigners to, quote unquote, replace white people by voting and by giving them the vote.

00:27:11.380 And so these two pillars that seem disparate are, in fact, intimately braided together. And that's why you can understand Trump's twin obsessions with saying that the 2020 election was rigged and unleashing ICE on all these cities throughout the country.

00:27:28.880 These are not separate issues. They are absolutely one in the same. And that is also why you hear people like Steve Bannon saying that we need to have ICE and Border Patrol at polling sites for the coming midterms because they they see these as the same issue just looked at in slightly different ways.

00:27:49.140 uh that would be correct they are the same issue now you take out the phony charge of racism all

00:27:56.300 that that's about american citizens whether you're hispanic american african-american this is about

00:28:01.360 american citizens they get to vote and the uh invasion was to destroy them and particularly

00:28:09.200 destroy their way of life and the little bit of wages they currently get short break back in the

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00:29:53.060 Okay. That was Ezra Klein doing the bad imitation of President Trump, but he's one of the

00:29:58.180 key elements on the left, a pollster and someone that oftentimes has blinding insights,

00:30:06.020 although he's the first to admit he missed the MAGA movement and the rise of populist nationalism.

00:30:11.140 And I think we refer to MAGA, we need to go back and refer to it always as a populist

00:30:17.280 nationalist movement, a populist, and take your number two pencil out, it's a populist

00:30:22.140 nationalist movement uh and we've gone too long with not enough nationalism and that is now

00:30:28.700 at the core of what we have to do to turn this around so let's take this in five parts

00:30:34.220 or a couple parts to break that down we'll bring on mark morgan in a second

00:30:37.640 in coming up to the 14 and 15 uh or the the presidential election in 16

00:30:43.880 the the harbinger that something was a foot given all the work we had done at breitbart and all the

00:30:51.640 work we had done with people like the people in the mass deportation coalition today uh in the

00:30:56.520 in the victory of dave bratt i think in june of 2014 where he beat for the first time in american

00:31:03.460 history never happened before in the history of the republic and hasn't happened since

00:31:06.660 a sitting majority leader eric canter who spent more on one campaign dinner i think 125 000 bucks

00:31:14.080 than bratt raised overall a complete total unknown economics professor from randolph

00:31:20.220 Macon College with the support of Breitbart, which I ran, and Laura Ingram's radio show,

00:31:26.960 which was then 9 to noon.

00:31:29.560 A young woman who was her producer eventually came to work for me at Breitbart and in the

00:31:33.300 White House, Julia Hahn.

00:31:34.340 She was the Natalie Winters of her time. 0.87

00:31:36.380 Same prep school in L.A., same go to University of Chicago and graduate in a couple of years,

00:31:41.120 another absolute genius, was in back of the Dave Brat campaign because he had no money.

00:31:48.100 Unbelievable upset victory in a primary.

00:31:49.840 and that puts stuff in full stop. Trump then takes on, in the primary, takes on the Republican

00:31:55.340 consensus of kind of the Bush think of just let people flood into the country, happy talk about

00:32:01.260 border security, but have no interest at all, work with the Chamber of Commerce, right? This is why

00:32:05.860 Texas was so screwed up, right? Work with a big ag, work with, you know, the construction industry, 0.93

00:32:11.840 work on, hey, as many illegal aliens as we can get in here and work and suppress wages for American 0.95

00:32:16.720 workers, that's what it's going to be. Trump shattered that with the concept of build the 0.71

00:32:21.240 wall. We're going to stop it. And remember, that victory, because it resonated everywhere,

00:32:27.720 even up in the blue, when it pierced the blue wall in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin,

00:32:34.800 that bet paid off. And so we won. And then President Trump tried to build the wall,

00:32:38.180 the big fight, you know, Paul Ryan and those guys stopped him every step of the way.

00:32:42.040 then the 2020 election is stolen turns out that that is providential because those years in the

00:32:48.280 wilderness let us sharpen the axe okay now the downside of that is that the illegitimate biden

00:32:55.160 regime having stolen the 2020 election worked with ngos dark money groups the radicals in the

00:33:01.360 democratic party and basically had a 22 million person invasion of our country bovino commander

00:33:09.480 Bravino tells you, hey, it's 100 million illegal aliens here. And I tend to agree that the number 0.57

00:33:14.060 is a lot higher than 22. My point is if you can't deal with the 22, you're never going to solve the

00:33:18.700 problem. So we've got 22 million sitting there. They have to go. All of them have to go. That's

00:33:24.620 the concept of these mass deportations. Trump wins in this come from behind that, quite frankly,

00:33:30.260 is probably even more monumental than the first time because the first time we came out of

00:33:35.040 nowhere, they didn't know how to handle our nomenclature. They didn't know how to handle

00:33:38.660 the idea is the American people, it resonated with the American people, but the political class

00:33:43.220 and the media class could never even think through. Hillary Clinton's still sitting there spouting

00:33:48.200 neoliberal, neocon globalism, right? Like the puppet she was, you know, wanting to be president 1.00

00:33:54.180 since she was nine years old. And we defeated the second time they could understand, hey,

00:33:58.620 these guys have been thinking this through and we know Trump's moves, we know his parlor tricks,

00:34:02.480 so we can stop him. An even bigger victory in 2024. And once again, propelled by the populist

00:34:10.400 nationalist MAGA movement. It was all grassroots. It was all voter engagement. It was all canvassing

00:34:15.820 and door knocking because Trump was outspent by a huge amount, particularly Kamala Harris in her

00:34:20.880 $1.2 billion final sprint. So here we are now, President Trump in the first 60 days in office

00:34:28.500 seals the border the border sealed as he says a couple of people come now do you get full

00:34:34.500 political credit for that in a coming election you just don't that's just reality you get a ton

00:34:40.100 of credit that you did it when you say you're going to do something it gets done and that is

00:34:43.760 huge but like most like people say well what have you done for me today now we're in a situation

00:34:49.540 of we have 22 million folks here and and i asked mark to come on here because there's a total

00:34:55.560 confusion about the math. And there's a total confusion in the math because we're blending a

00:34:59.860 lot of things together. We still have a massive border security operation going. And that border

00:35:05.160 security operation is not simply building the wall. It's turning hombres back at the very

00:35:10.320 beginning. No, you're not going to get in our country anymore. We've got the military down 1.00

00:35:14.080 there. You have enhanced enforcement. You've got the Coast Guard. We're not letting them fly in

00:35:18.480 here. It's really a very sophisticated system and it's working, but you still have, uh, you still

00:35:25.840 have the festering sore of 22 million illegal aliens of now you have the Marxist jihadists

00:35:33.020 that control the major cities of the country that are going John C Calhoun on you and nullification

00:35:38.760 going, no, we're not even going to let ICE officers come in here. Right. And as Mondami says, we're

00:35:43.380 not going to let ICE come into New York city to take anybody out because they're bothering Americans 0.51

00:35:48.140 And the response is, yo, Ugandan Marxist jihadists, those actually aren't Americans. 0.71

00:35:53.960 They're foreigners, and they're all going to go. 0.91

00:35:56.300 Now, we're going to have a test of political wills about that, and that's all to come. 1.00

00:36:00.460 Mark Morgan, can you do me a favor?

00:36:02.220 First off, your background in all of this, your expertise in this, before I ask you the question,

00:36:06.980 can you bifurcate the ongoing, the greatness of our border security, what's happening,

00:36:12.280 what's ongoing from what we call interior enforcement, sir?

00:36:18.140 Yeah, see, look, I think you've already done a pretty good job. Let's take border security first. And I agree with you. You know, I thought that we had achieved the most secure border in history, Trump 45, when I was commissioner. And now it's hard for me to say it's better now than even when I was commissioner.

00:36:35.880 But we still have a ways to go with border security, right?

00:36:38.960 We're not completely there yet.

00:36:40.940 But as to your point, what we're doing, though, every single day, we're taking a step in the right direction.

00:36:45.920 President Trump, with respect to border security, has given him the policies, has given him the funding and the resources.

00:36:50.880 And just as important, the right strategy to continue to take positive steps to secure the border more each and every single day.

00:36:58.980 But that is separate and apart, as you just described, from interior enforcement.

00:37:05.200 Look, when we, during the last campaign, look, we were there at the RNC.

00:37:09.880 We saw people, they were chanting and holding up signs that said mass deportation now.

00:37:15.140 We knew what we were voting for.

00:37:16.660 We know that when President Trump promised mass deportations, that he was talking about interior enforcement.

00:37:25.780 Stephen, to your point, he was talking about deporting the 20 million plus, I agree with you, I think it's much higher,

00:37:31.360 that are already inside, in the interior of the United States, that's what we were talking about.

00:37:38.640 And Stephen, look, I don't get comfort in saying this, but it's that definition of interior

00:37:43.000 enforcement that going after the 20 plus million that are already here is what I'm saying. It's

00:37:48.180 not being done to the extent that it can be and should be. It's not being done to the extent that

00:37:53.840 we're securing the border. But we've got to make sure that border security, what CBP and what the

00:38:00.200 Coast Guard is doing to prevent threats from coming in is completely different from mass

00:38:06.140 deportations with respect to interior enforcement. Now, part of the reason this is that they did

00:38:12.280 some polling, the political operation did some polling, and they went to this conference.

00:38:16.980 Actually, it wasn't at Mar-a-Lago, but it was down in Florida, I think, one of these

00:38:20.380 off-sites they have. And they have all these consultants come in, and they talk about the

00:38:23.820 issues. And this was, I think, back in January, February. And I believe it was James Blair,

00:38:28.660 the head of the political operation, did this polling and said, the phrase we can never use

00:38:33.100 again is mass deportations. And from that moment, you know, that is the phrase that should never be

00:38:38.760 spoken. I can tell you that is absolutely 1000% incorrect. What people want is they want to see

00:38:44.860 mass deportations and the deportations they want to see, you can't triage them. They obviously want

00:38:49.920 to see the bad hombres out, right? The worst, the worst, and then it goes down. But that phrase in

00:38:54.440 itself implies you're not going to get to the rest of them. You have to have mass deportations

00:38:59.200 of all of them. If we don't, it's an amnesty program. You're only going to get more back

00:39:04.000 in here. When Democrats take back over, they're going to flood it again. You have to take your 0.97

00:39:07.960 stand now. Do you think, and you went around and saw the enthusiasm, was there any doubt that the

00:39:13.860 American people, and it still polls at like 67%, was there any doubt in your mind when you went

00:39:18.460 around that the American people are sitting there going, we have to have mass deportations. We have 0.97

00:39:23.120 to get these illegal aliens out of the country. Stephen, not only is there no doubt in my mind, 1.00

00:39:28.780 but there's also no doubt that that's why President Trump is back in the White House.

00:39:32.420 That's why he's back behind the resident desk. Make no mistake, mass deportations. And again,

00:39:37.320 we need to be very clear. There's been extreme successes with respect to border enforcement

00:39:43.140 and border security, as you explained. But that is separate from mass deportations. That is

00:39:49.120 separate than what we voted for and what was promised. When we talk about mass deportations,

00:39:53.940 we're talking about interior enforcement, about the whole of government approach going after those

00:39:59.920 that are already inside the United States illegally. And that means going after all of 0.99

00:40:04.900 them. That means using an Eisenhower-based strategy that he used in the 50s that was

00:40:09.580 very successful. And that is a quantity-based strategy over quality, to your point. Look,

00:40:15.660 the worst of the worst strategy. First of all, Stephen, look, I don't like that phrase. And as

00:40:20.620 a strategy, it has not been effective. It is inefficient when you are going after what we

00:40:26.560 know is a very small subset. Look, the, you know, we're going after criminals is really a cloak for

00:40:34.580 non-enforcement. It literally, that was the Biden-Obama administration strategy. We're just

00:40:40.760 doing it better in this administration and see if i can't real quick let me give you an example

00:40:46.280 of where it's confusing for the american people and where i don't think that there's a level of

00:40:52.100 transparency that is there right now we're the the stats that are being pushed out right now

00:40:56.980 is a 62 38 split and what they're touting this success is that we have deported of those that

00:41:03.880 have deported which those numbers are still low overall is that 62 percent of them to your point

00:41:08.800 have been criminals, the worst of the worst, while 38% have been non-criminals. Well, first of all,

00:41:13.820 let's break that down real quick. First of all, the 38% non-criminals, we know a good majority of

00:41:19.100 those were actually collateral apprehensions as part of the criminal operations. But here's what's

00:41:25.420 equally important that people need to understand, is that the so-called worst of the worst is a 0.78

00:41:30.240 small, small subset of the millions and millions of illegal aliens that are here. So in reality,

00:41:36.900 what the third 62-38 split means is, and I'm a conservative here, is that we're devoting 75% 0.64

00:41:44.380 of our resources going after about 9% of the illegal alien population. That is a Biden-Obama

00:41:53.000 administration policy and strategy. We're just doing it better. But that means the overwhelming

00:41:58.280 majority of those that are here illegally are not being aggressively specifically targeted for

00:42:03.560 removal. So hang on for a second. If you can hold through, I just want to hold you to another

00:42:07.820 break. Ben Burquam is going to join us also. And my question is that given the radical of the

00:42:16.760 democratic socialists and the working family party and these radical Democrats, they understand 0.98

00:42:21.180 that their lifeblood politically is illegal aliens and foreign nationals that are coming in these 0.62

00:42:27.140 bogus immigration plans. I think it's 8.2, 8.5 million people in New York City, 3.7 million,

00:42:35.720 I believe, are foreign-born. This is Mondami's power. And right now, he's John C. Calhoun.

00:42:41.060 He has nullified every essential immigration law. He says, I'm not going to enforce it. In fact,

00:42:47.820 we'll be arresting ICE officers as they come in here. Worse than the nullification that led to

00:42:54.020 the civil war of john c calhoun uh in in the crowd down south in south carolina these guys are these

00:43:01.120 guys are 10 times worse and it's going to drive us to a very dark place unless it's confronted

00:43:05.720 and confronted today they cannot that cannot win politically at the polling so we're going to talk 0.68

00:43:10.320 about marxist communism you run around now with your hair on fire they're all communists get to 0.63

00:43:14.940 the beating heart of it don't try to play your games with the chamber of commerce and then start

00:43:19.320 calling Mandami a communist. Get to the heart of why he's got political support. Get to the heart

00:43:26.020 of how they're defying President Trump's core policies that he went on that are still amazingly

00:43:32.500 important to the American people and supported by the American people. Mark Morgan, Ben Berkwam,

00:43:39.300 next in The War Room.

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00:45:38.700 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:45:42.700 Mandami exists because of the rot in our education system.

00:45:48.180 It's turned into an indoctrination system to turn people to hate this country,

00:45:53.540 hate what this country stood for, to hate capitalism because really there's no capitalists in our system.

00:46:00.520 It's a system with 80% of the people are outside the capitalist system, which has to be rectified,

00:46:05.760 and there's ways to rectify that, and it's not universal basic income,

00:46:09.140 which is just another oligarch's method of giving you tip money, socialism giving you tip money,

00:46:15.920 where they take all the wealth and the power.

00:46:19.360 mandami's core strength comes from the invasion in the in the immigration laws that we have

00:46:25.940 and ej antonio i think he's going to try to join tomorrow morning we've got more working age men

00:46:30.780 out of the workforce than ever in the history of the united states and you know victor davis

00:46:35.420 hansen gave something oh man he's got the stats i don't have the stats wrong bro i've forgotten

00:46:39.400 more about this than you'll ever know just stick to your neocon bad advice in iran in the middle

00:46:44.960 least okay stay in your lane um but we now have mandami he's they're very up front they look at

00:46:52.440 minneapolis and as we said the time they look at minneapolis as a surrender and they're and

00:46:56.820 they're dug down this so when the house republicans go out and we're going to now have this thing

00:47:01.300 compare and contrast socialism with what we offer you got to offer something and one thing is not

00:47:06.320 some theoretical let's go read carl marx right it's practical and you see the failures of uh of

00:47:12.320 communism and Marxism throughout history. However, in right today, you see that it is in back of

00:47:18.080 this invasion of the United States of America, and that has to be taken care of. And if we blink on

00:47:22.680 this, you're not going to have a country, full stop, okay? This is kind of where the rubber

00:47:27.460 meets the road. Mark Morgan, what do we need to do? You have these officials in the greatest cities

00:47:33.620 in the world, in the United States, New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis,

00:47:41.260 Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and many more, Denver, many, many, many more that are defying

00:47:46.800 federal law and saying, guess what? It doesn't matter. These people are going to stay here.

00:47:51.400 We're going to get them on welfare. They're going to be part of the system. And we don't care

00:47:54.940 what you have to say about it, sir. So first of all, Stephen, I think that to some degree,

00:48:01.280 the Republicans have created individuals like this. And this is what I mean. We saw what happened

00:48:05.960 in Minneapolis. And what did we do? I think to a large degree, a lot of Republicans in Capitol

00:48:10.880 Hill, they blinked, they backed down, right? And I think it was purely political. They were saying,

00:48:17.720 hey, this is going to impact us in the midterms. Instead of just taking a step back and saying,

00:48:21.440 hey, let's rethink our strategy, let's improve our strategy, but keep going 100% to mass

00:48:26.540 deportations for all the reasons you articulated, which I agree, we blinked. And so now some of the

00:48:33.460 Democrats like this individual feels empowered, feels that they can do stuff like this. So now

00:48:38.340 I think what this requires is there should be no question if somebody interferes with a lawful federal operations, they should be arrested.

00:48:48.600 They should be tried and prosecuted for that criminal violation.

00:48:52.360 We should be going after not just threatening that, but actually doing that.

00:48:56.380 You know, we saw that happen to a judge in Minneapolis, although she was really given a slap on the hand.

00:49:01.320 But we need to see more of that when it happens for him to come out.

00:49:03.980 that's just political posturing. It's not going to happen unless we cave politically. And I think

00:49:09.480 we have been seeing some of that in certain areas and across the board strategically, Stephen.

00:49:16.180 When you look at the numbers, so I'm going to have to grasp on Monday because we've been working on

00:49:19.760 this for a couple of days. So I'll take over the weekend to get it. If you look at the overall

00:49:23.220 numbers, the numbers themselves are not as bad as they were as far as generic ballot. And, you know,

00:49:29.140 it's much closer than people think. And of course, this whole fight is over right now.

00:49:33.660 about 15 to let's say maybe 20 swing districts 11 or think 11 or 13 of those districts trump won in

00:49:40.540 24 folks come on the difference the big gap the difference that the republicans do not want to

00:49:47.820 talk about is intensity the intensity gap the democrats are fired up like never before small

00:49:53.900 donors are fired up why they see the ability they see the end of trumpism and they see it in 100

00:49:58.760 days. They see that if they take the House, they will impeach Trump. They won't start the trial

00:50:04.000 until 2028. But they see the ability to stop Trump, to impeach him, Russ Vogt, and many other people,

00:50:10.300 not just the president. They see a way to end Trumpism and to end the MAGA movement. It's 100

00:50:15.120 days away. That's why they are jacked up like nobody's business. And it's incumbent upon us

00:50:20.680 to get the intensity up. How do you get the intensity up? Well, let me think for a second.

00:50:25.040 oh, yeah, let's go back to core values. Let's go back to the things that won for us. And why did

00:50:30.040 they win? They resonated with the American people. Mark, what would you say the couple of building

00:50:35.840 bucks, what's a couple of things we would have to do right now to get interior enforcement up

00:50:42.220 enough that it started to resonate with the American people we were actually getting the

00:50:46.100 job done, like President Trump has done so magnificently on the border?

00:50:50.620 I think you just said it perfectly about the intensity. That's what I'm hearing.

00:50:55.040 And one of the things that they're frustrated is the lack of mass deportations.

00:50:59.120 And this is easy. Look, I'll go back. You cannot devote 75 percent of your resources going after 9 percent, a small subset of the illegal angling population.

00:51:10.260 It does not add up. You have to shift your strategy from a quality base to a quantity base, just like Eisenhower did. 0.98

00:51:16.920 Look, when I spent 20 years in the FBI, we had a multitude of threats, counterterrorism, counterintelligence, public corruption, traditional violent crime.

00:51:25.220 The list goes on and on. Can you imagine if we told the public that we're going to take 75 percent of the FBI resources and only target one of the vast complex threats that we have against this country?

00:51:36.180 That's absurd and it's ineffective. But that's essentially what's happening now.

00:51:39.680 So what I would suggest is we have to fundamentally change our strategy from that quality base to a quantity base.

00:51:45.480 And we have to look and go after the core issues driving illegal immigration.

00:51:50.100 We have 1.5 million illegal aliens in this country with final orders of removal from a judge. 0.96

00:51:55.180 We should be aggressively and actively targeting them, as well as the criminals.

00:51:59.120 That's a given.

00:51:59.860 We have hundreds of thousands of visa overstays that we should aggressively target.

00:52:03.340 And the number one thing that we should target, worksite enforcement.

00:52:07.340 We know the greatest incentive that drives illegal immigration is those coming here to work illegally.

00:52:12.960 We should be targeting those employers.

00:52:14.440 We should be prosecuting those employers and we should be aggressively targeting worksite enforcement.

00:52:21.060 If you do that, I promise you the numbers will skyrocket and the numbers of those voluntarily departing will go up and fewer will start coming because they know they're no longer going to be able to infuse our laws.

00:52:33.020 Morgan, what are your coordinates on social media? People want to know more about this and know more about your thinking. Where do they go?

00:52:38.400 You know, right now, I think that I'm supposed to be this season, so just you and me.

00:52:47.180 Thank you, sir.

00:52:47.900 Appreciate you, Mark Morgan.

00:52:49.500 You bet.

00:52:51.160 We'll push that out.

00:52:52.120 Let's make sure you get it out to his thinking.

00:52:54.300 Berquam is going to be with us.

00:52:55.680 He's talked to some of the senior officials over at DHS.

00:52:58.560 He's going to be with us.

00:52:59.840 Berquam's always the tip of the spear.

00:53:02.360 Take your phone out.

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Bannon's War Room - July 24, 2026

Episode 5540： Nationalism Taking Over The Arts In America; Interior Enforcement Of Immigration

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