Bannon's War Room - July 27, 2026


Episode 5546: The American Revolution Lands In Oxford; Israel's 1 Billion Dollar Influencer Campaign


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00:00:44.640 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:50.120 Monday, 27 July, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:53.820 Jack Brasovic's with us. We're going to go to Oxford in a moment with Eric Metaxas.
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00:02:33.760 Don't delay.
00:02:34.560 Your anxiety will decrease.
00:02:36.040 Jack Posobiec, as we've warned for a long time, if you want to have a really, we talk about the early days, the kinetic part of the Third World War.
00:02:45.780 if you want to accelerate, if you're an accelerationist and want to accelerate the
00:02:50.660 kinetic part of the Third World War, what you do is merge the two fronts. That would be the front
00:02:56.220 in Ukraine, in the front with Israel in this situation with the Persians, and now with the
00:03:02.720 Houthis that stretches from Lebanon and Syria all the way through, across the arc to the Red Sea,
00:03:09.580 in the Houthis, in the Suez Canal.
00:03:13.040 Jack Posobiec, how dangerous a territory is this?
00:03:16.040 And why is Zelensky driving towards this, sir?
00:03:19.520 Well, look, Steve, we got to remember, of course,
00:03:21.500 that this is the clash of civilizations.
00:03:28.560 This is the area at the center of the World Island,
00:03:32.080 as Mackinder would have it,
00:03:34.080 where all civilizations are constantly vying
00:03:37.020 for purchase, for one-upsmanship, to see who is able to attain prominence and influence in the
00:03:46.320 world. So this is always where civilizations clash, whether it be the Persians, the Russians,
00:03:52.600 the Byzantines, of course, Alexander the Great. People are talking about the Greek
00:03:59.120 epics yet again, even though I personally didn't care for Christopher Nolan's movie,
00:04:04.180 um that that people have to understand this this this goes back thousands of years thousands of
00:04:09.920 years and and and this is a hornet's nest and it's always been the bloodlands which is really just
00:04:15.680 this this crescent just this this bloody crescent that go of instability that runs from uh of course
00:04:24.480 eastern ukraine on and those borderlands all the way down into the middle east and what happened
00:04:31.580 this last Saturday isn't getting a lot of attention, but I think that it really should.
00:04:35.820 And this is when Zelensky sent a couple of, we don't know exactly if it was drones or
00:04:41.220 this strike that took place on an Iranian cargo ship that was headed up from the Black, or excuse
00:04:48.200 me, the Caspian Sea, not the Black Sea, across the Black Sea into the Caspian Sea, across the
00:04:53.300 Caucasus, struck an Iranian supply ship that was sending a supply, it looks like, of drones
00:05:00.740 to Russia. Now, we know that Iran has been sending those supplies for quite some time,
00:05:06.300 but this is the first time that Zelensky has targeted them directly, and to do so in the
00:05:11.260 Caspian Sea, which is that sea that connects the Caucasus with Russia and Iran. Of course,
00:05:18.240 this is a key development which not only could open up a new front in both of those wars,
00:05:25.100 but it is a front where, in fact, the wars would merge. Now, we see this done for the political
00:05:31.120 reasoning, because we can also see on the political side, Zelensky and Netanyahu are now
00:05:36.840 both traveling to Washington. The Iranian foreign minister, Rauchi, also pointed out, he claimed
00:05:43.360 that Zelensky is doing this at the behest of Israel, because they want to merge Europe and
00:05:50.360 the Middle East into one large war. And Steve, when it comes down to it, this is one of the 0.86
00:05:56.340 most dangerous things that you could find because Dan Kane and all the other senior generals out 0.99
00:06:00.920 there, everyone who's looked at this says the biggest risk of the Iran conflict is drawing in 0.99
00:06:06.920 Iran. Iran's the junior partner in many respects in terms of their economic access. But if you
00:06:13.700 draw in Russia, if you draw in China to a conflict like that, that has the degree of escalation and
00:06:21.600 spillover into a wider conflict that, as you say, Steve, wouldn't just be a two-front war for the
00:06:27.520 United States. It has the potential to escalate into something far bigger than I think anyone
00:06:32.440 can even imagine right now. We've got all this today about artificial intelligence and the
00:06:38.300 chinese communist party and it's you know it's out there that chips are being sold through uh
00:06:44.380 through third parties particularly like i think thailand is where the chips came from but what
00:06:48.780 they're doing scott bestin's out saying hey we're going to shut down through tariffs and other means 0.87
00:06:53.420 uh the chinese stealing ip which is even leading to their open ai we got xi scheduled for the books 0.89
00:07:00.640 for late september i'm gonna get to the russians back in a second but the big partner here is china 0.97
00:07:05.620 This is why we got blockade all the oil coming out.
00:07:07.900 No oil should go out.
00:07:08.760 They shouldn't be able to get any oil, and they should monetize it.
00:07:11.380 But correct me if I'm wrong, Poso, don't they have an overland route that's our great ally in Pakistan?
00:07:17.340 The overland route, how they're getting rearmed today with component pieces, is the overland route through Pakistan,
00:07:23.360 which Pakistan happens to be the number one recipient and the number one partner of One Belt, One Road.
00:07:29.920 The Chinese Communist Party is definitely their ally, and they're supplying component parts to the Persians in the overland route that I don't think as of yet were bombing.
00:07:40.900 Is that correct, Poso?
00:07:43.320 Well, Steve, that route's been there for quite some time.
00:07:46.160 And, of course, that component of the Belt and Road Initiative that you're discussing is the key region why it is that China has been so focused for years, of course, on Xinjiang and the Uyghurs.
00:07:57.500 And we've talked about that and their treatment at length, but people need to realize that there is a geographic and geopolitical reason for this because it is exactly at that point in – just across the Hindu Kush, just across the border from Pakistan into China where Xinjiang lies.
00:08:19.800 The city of Kashgar is right there where they filmed the Kite Runner movie.
00:08:24.260 They filmed that over there and a bunch of other stuff.
00:08:25.980 And so people have to realize that this is all about the overland route that connects the world island. 1.00
00:08:32.960 This is why China cares about the Uyghurs. 0.99
00:08:34.980 They're not interested in – they don't care about a Turkic people that are set up there for no reason. 1.00
00:08:43.540 They're trying to reconstitute the Silk Road, and they're doing so – and by the way, there's Chinese cars all over Europe. 0.95
00:08:51.240 So they're doing so via maritime, and they're doing so via overland with all the principalities and countries from Asia Minor all the way through Central Asia and the Middle East to once again the principalities of China the way they were in ancient times.
00:09:10.240 The McKinder theory, Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, others about the control of the world island by, you know, who controls the center of the world island, controls the world island, who controls the world island, controls the world. 0.61
00:09:25.060 That would be the Asian, the Eurasian land mask and throw in Africa. 0.77
00:09:28.580 Homeland defense says, hey, guess what? 0.87
00:09:31.880 If we defend the entire island of the Western Hemisphere from the Arctic to the tip,
00:09:36.880 and we use our natural strategic pivot, which is not the heartland of things,
00:09:41.400 we shouldn't be around the rim of it trying to fight a losing game,
00:09:44.280 but the Central Pacific all the way through the three-island chain,
00:09:47.820 because we are a Pacific nation, that is our defense, and that's what we have to focus on.
00:09:54.080 So you've got a buried lead there, and I want to ask you because people are saying, hey,
00:09:57.500 Before you change on that, Steve, what if the American McKinder strategy of the war room could be defending the Western Island?
00:10:10.140 Exactly.
00:10:11.600 Exactly.
00:10:12.960 That's where the three island changes, the Western Islands, right there, make you a Pacific nation.
00:10:17.280 Jack, you've got a buried lead in there.
00:10:19.120 I just want to make sure we're clear about this. 0.88
00:10:21.080 Zelensky and people are saying, hey, Russia's army, the Iranians.
00:10:26.320 You mentioned right there that on the ship itself, there might have been actual drones from Iran, from Persia, going to Russia so they can continue to combat the Ukrainians.
00:10:39.480 That would mean they got surplus of what they're even hitting us with in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.
00:10:45.600 Your thoughts?
00:10:48.180 Well, Steve, look, this has been a key economic and military relationship for the Persians.
00:10:52.580 It's been one that's been continuing. 0.99
00:10:54.620 As these supplies do continue, we've seen the Iranians be able to conduct their strikes. 0.90
00:10:59.520 We know that there's, of course, that reporting about the president being warned off of the new Air Force One due to the threat of an Iranian strike or some kind of Iranian interception. 0.82
00:11:11.480 And case in point is that, look, the way the distributed mosaic network of Iran's defense is set up, they do the same thing with their military, with their defense infrastructure, with their manufacturing, with their military industrial base.
00:11:24.440 they do this with their power grid, is that they have small facilities all over the country
00:11:29.820 in a distributed model. So us taking out one plant here, one plant there, whether it's a
00:11:36.520 manufacturing plant, whether it's a power plant, that doesn't mean that reduces their entire
00:11:40.580 capacity. And Steve, they set themselves up, they set up their entire system this way for 50 years
00:11:47.180 because they've been waiting for this war. I'm not saying that they're winning and far from it,
00:11:53.340 By the way, I believe that Donald Trump, our president, has controlled the escalatory ladder.
00:11:57.820 I am just saying that this is perhaps more complicated than folks in the Beltway would have you believe.
00:12:05.200 No, and that's why these meetings are so important tomorrow.
00:12:08.320 Jack, where do people – you're going to be back up at 2 o'clock.
00:12:11.020 You're back from your overseas trip, back up at 2 o'clock on Human Events Daily right here on Real America's Voice following Andrew Colvett in the Charlie Kirk show.
00:12:18.720 We'll have the technical situation worked out so we can see the whole show.
00:12:22.520 And then tomorrow night, 5 to 7, we're going to do a special regarding Sam Faddis, his life, his accomplishments, also to the great insights he gave us in every part of the world, but particularly the Middle East.
00:12:36.900 And we're going to tie that directly to the news of the day.
00:12:39.820 The news of the day, I think, might have something to do, Jack, tomorrow with Zelensky and Netanyahu in the imperial capital at the same time.
00:12:49.840 That's exactly right, Steve.
00:12:51.220 And it's also kind of interesting that you're seeing the sort of you're seeing the war roomization of the U.K.
00:12:56.860 So I'm back from London. Raheem's over in London. You got Metaxas now over in Oxford.
00:13:02.400 I don't know what's going on, but it might be it might be that it might be a little bit of reverse 1776.
00:13:08.520 You know, I'm talking about exactly. Raheem's actually there doing serious work, as is Metaxas.
00:13:13.760 But I mean, Raheem's really over there working with Nigel.
00:13:16.380 Last thing, you know, there's a documentarian that made raw footage about Lindsey Graham for a couple of months, and they got Lindsey on the night of the bombing.
00:13:26.120 And he tells about what he told Trump.
00:13:27.760 He told Trump this will take just like a week, and then all of a sudden they're going to rise up and overthrow it.
00:13:33.380 So you can see what the intelligence service were feeding right to Lindsey Graham.
00:13:37.120 Your closing thoughts before we bounce, sir.
00:13:38.920 look i i'm just gonna like i'm not gonna you know speak ill of the late senator but i am gonna say
00:13:46.040 that that footage steve watching it it it made me sick to my stomach the the giddiness in in the
00:13:53.020 voice the the levity uh clapping and and cheering um you know knowing that uh you know that americans
00:14:02.080 are going into harm's way i mean this is serious business and it it just doesn't seem like he was
00:14:07.340 taking it seriously at all and it made me sick to my stomach to watch something like that but
00:14:10.720 that's the peep that's the person who's sending 5 000 sailors at a clip on these aircraft carriers
00:14:17.200 in harm's way in harm's way we're gonna play those clips probably this evening jack uh you're the
00:14:22.900 associated press of the mega movement on twitter and getter where people go all right we're up at
00:14:28.900 jack posovic on truth social on uh telegram and of course instagram and getter as well make sure
00:14:36.220 you are there because you never know when the sensor hammer swings back down thank you sir see
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00:16:23.980 Okay, we're going to Oxford.
00:16:26.980 Metaxas, you're doing your Socrates in the city.
00:16:30.160 You did your last one in Lexington and Concord.
00:16:32.960 Are today you carrying the flag of revolution
00:16:35.200 to the heart of England's intelligentsia
00:16:40.580 at Oxford and Cambridge, sir?
00:16:42.920 Not exactly, but I'd like to think that
00:16:45.280 when the Holy Spirit arrives,
00:16:47.820 God is on the move, liberty is here.
00:16:50.340 I'll tell you, it is fascinating, Steve.
00:16:53.820 I've been doing Socrates in the city for 25 years.
00:16:56.380 We do these retreats in different places.
00:16:58.340 So here we're in Oxford, England.
00:16:59.780 Why?
00:17:00.480 Because I love C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien.
00:17:03.980 That's a big reason we're here.
00:17:06.640 But it's a fascinating thing, the cultural difference.
00:17:09.220 One of the themes of my book, Revolution, is the cultural divide between the British
00:17:16.800 elites of Georgian-era England and the American elites. The American elites were profoundly
00:17:23.880 Christian. Today, we would think of them as evangelical, Bible-based Christians. They
00:17:29.200 believed in virtue and principle and honor. The British elites, there's tremendous decadence.
00:17:36.940 And it's a funny thing because, I mean, you know, I mentioned we're doing the Socrates in the City
00:17:41.100 thing. Victoria Jackson of Saturday Night Live, she's going to be with us here. And it's just
00:17:46.780 a great group of people. But two days ago, I was in Nashville with Victoria and her husband. We're
00:17:53.540 having a conversation. And she said, I love the part in your book. I'm not going to do her high
00:17:57.800 pitched voice. I love the part of your book where you write about the engagement party that General
00:18:03.140 Burgoyne had or whatever. And I realized I'd forgotten about this. I go out of my way in the
00:18:09.180 book Revolution to talk about the extraordinary decadence of the British elites. It's just a
00:18:17.020 level of decadence that we kind of forget that our guys, okay, the Minutemen, Paul Revere, 0.70
00:18:23.700 you know, many of them working class, they were fighting elite folks like, you know, 0.73
00:18:32.320 gentleman Johnny Burgoyne, who were, they weren't just elites, they were effete. There was something 0.60
00:18:38.600 in that culture. And it's funny because it's the same culture today. I keep saying that the story
00:18:48.040 of the revolution, it's like Hollywood and Manhattan elites with their values, with their
00:18:53.620 decadent values sneering at faith, fighting with people from a small town in Oklahoma.
00:19:00.500 They speak the same language, but the cultural divide is absolutely extraordinary. And so in
00:19:06.020 the book there's two examples you've read about where tell us about tell us about gentlemen tell
00:19:10.180 us about gentleman johnny burgoyne because he was one of those important field officers and his
00:19:14.720 surrender at saratoga was a game changer tell me about general johnny burgoyne who was the top of
00:19:20.000 the top right yeah well one of the one of the reasons i loved writing this book you know is
00:19:25.260 that there are characters like gentleman johnny burgoyne i remember in fifth grade hearing about
00:19:29.940 Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne. And you realize that this guy was he was a fop. He was a dandy. 0.99
00:19:36.460 And he was somebody that he really had. He was at the center of British elite culture.
00:19:44.180 And I go out of my way to tell the story before he comes over to America. He basically throws a
00:19:51.740 party for his I think it's a nephew and it's an engagement party. And it is the most extravagant,
00:19:59.180 decadent party. It's in the book. You read the book. So you're right. But you almost can't
00:20:03.500 believe the level of decadence for this party. No expense is spared. It's just it's something
00:20:09.980 that most people would say, you know, this is a little much. You're you're you're spending a lot
00:20:15.140 of money. The reason you're sure. The reason the reason you need to get this book and you need to
00:20:19.420 get copies for the younger people is that you just said something about you heard about Johnny
00:20:24.320 Burgoyne in the fifth grade. Well, trust me, in American schools today, they ain't here unless
00:20:28.180 you're homeschooled, you ain't hearing about Johnny Burgoyne in the Saratoga campaign in the
00:20:33.540 fifth grade. This is why you got to get the book, right? Well, listen, Burgoyne is one of those
00:20:38.540 characters. I fall in love with some of these characters, even the bad guys. Like you just
00:20:42.840 think I got to write about this guy because he is so entertaining. He's a playwright. He's hanging
00:20:48.280 out with David Garrick and he's writing plays. And then he decides, you know, he wants to be in
00:20:53.060 military. And when he comes to America, basically he's sent over with General Howe and General
00:21:00.680 Clinton. And this is in 1775. So, you know, he arrives right after Lexington and Concord and
00:21:07.240 right before the Battle of Bunker Hill. And he has this crazy idea that he's going to bring
00:21:13.740 reconciliation between the colonies. And then when he sees the bloodbath of Bunker Hill,
00:21:18.560 He kind of changes his tune. But to me, it's comedy. When you get to the Battle of Saratoga, he's so pompous that he's writing these letters, trying to get the Americans trying to terrorize them, basically say, like, if you if you do not, you know, surrender to me, to gentleman Johnny Burgoyne, we will crush you.
00:21:38.420 we will unleash the savages on you because they knew that the Native Americans that the British
00:21:44.500 very, very cynically allied with were sadistic. They would scalp living people. They would torture. 0.99
00:21:51.840 They would do all this stuff. So he is just one of the characters in the book that you think,
00:21:57.260 are you making this up? Is this for a novel? No, this is real. These characters were real.
00:22:01.280 And again, the level of decadence with Burgoyne in 1777, he oversees the turning point of the war.
00:22:10.640 When we crush the British at the Battle of Saratoga, it's just a moment that changes everything.
00:22:17.580 At that point, Burgoyne realizes, OK, I guess I'm not going to be the hero that I thought I was.
00:22:23.580 But it's just there's so many characters like that.
00:22:25.920 This is when France starts taking it seriously, the book revolution.
00:22:30.940 real quickly the eagle and child pub the inklings c.s lewis and uh and talking and talking talk to
00:22:38.680 us about it give us give the audience i know will be fascinated by all this about the inklings
00:22:42.660 listen i'll tell you and i can come back on i'll be here all week but i'll tell you this is i love
00:22:47.920 it here my wife and i you know we love england we were here on our honeymoon 30 years ago okay
00:22:52.200 and every time there's a c.s lewis conference we come to oxford and cambridge right down the street
00:22:57.840 I mean, I could sprint there in, you know, 20 seconds.
00:23:02.380 The Eagle and Child, this is the place where Tolkien and C.S. Lewis would meet.
00:23:08.680 They would read to each other their works in progress, The Hobbit, The Chronicles of Narnia.
00:23:16.340 They would read this to each other.
00:23:17.620 They call it the Rabbit Room.
00:23:19.120 It's a back room that they would gather and they'd drink their ale, and they're reading this stuff.
00:23:23.060 You can't even imagine.
00:23:24.100 And those are just two of the most famous inklings.
00:23:26.540 but there was just a number of literary figures. So I love C.S. Lewis. He's absolutely my favorite
00:23:32.240 writer. And that's a big part of why I started Socrates in the City, just to acquaint people
00:23:37.000 with this kind of stuff that has a deeply Christian view. And I got to say, since I'm in
00:23:42.960 England, Americans always loved Lewis and Tolkien more than the British loved Lewis and Tolkien,
00:23:51.000 because Americans tend to be more overtly Christian.
00:23:54.940 Over here, you can feel it, obviously, when you're in England.
00:23:59.300 It's spiritually a little bit darker, a little bit more pagan, 0.64
00:24:02.620 but there's tons of Americans in Oxford.
00:24:05.520 I get recognized on the street.
00:24:06.920 There's so many evangelical conservative Christians in Oxford in the summer
00:24:10.620 having events, so it's just absolutely amazing.
00:24:14.140 It is amazing, and I do love it here.
00:24:17.180 We come here every year.
00:24:18.080 c.s lewis and tolkien get all the get the headlines but my favorite was charles williams
00:24:23.720 if you ever get a chance two books war in heaven and descent into hell not a lot of people know
00:24:30.620 about that stuff god bless you for knowing about that and one thing i got to say is that
00:24:33.880 near here maudlin college uh was where tolkien talked c.s lewis into accepting jesus because
00:24:44.160 As Lewis had become a demon, he believes in God, but I don't know about the Jesus thing.
00:24:48.700 Tolkien says to him, the story of Jesus, it's the one true myth.
00:24:54.100 You love myth.
00:24:55.040 Myth has power.
00:24:56.300 What if there was a myth of the dying God who's resurrected that once in history actually happened?
00:25:03.260 And they were taking a late night walk on Addison's walk.
00:25:06.440 I've been there many times.
00:25:07.540 We're going to go there in a couple of days.
00:25:08.860 and and Tolkien talks Lewis into thinking about this and that leads to the conversion
00:25:15.480 of C.S. Lewis thanks to J.R.R. Tolkien it's an amazing moment in the 20th century uh two of
00:25:22.700 the giants I think the greatest authors of the 20th century talking about this kind of stuff
00:25:28.080 it all happened here you can tell I'm excited and you remember John McCain uh John McCain in the
00:25:33.800 floor of the Senate accused MAGA of being the hobbits. Well, the hobbits from the Shire were
00:25:38.900 the backbone of society, as Tolkien knew from his youth of the Shire. Nobody knew it better than
00:25:45.580 Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, and that's why they wrote what they did. They wanted, and this gets to the
00:25:51.600 heart of it, they were not decadent. They were not cynical. They believed in heroism. They believed
00:25:56.180 in sacrifice. They believed in the little guy fighting for something beautiful and good and
00:26:01.400 true and that's why their books are beautiful and powerful and stand today and christian faith is at
00:26:06.760 the center of it uh and i really think that that's you know when i think about liberty no but that's
00:26:12.000 your book revolution talks about the sacred cause these these folks signed up for a sacred cause
00:26:19.560 that was greater than themselves that's the power revolution yeah where do we get it right now where
00:26:26.040 do we get it well i want to make sure you can go to amazon if you can find it in a barnes and noble
00:26:31.900 i would be surprised some barnes and noble carrying it but but basically uh right now the best place
00:26:37.300 to get it is amazon you can read it tomorrow i read the audiobook in case somebody wants to do
00:26:42.300 the audiobook that's my voice but i'm very excited it continues to sell well yesterday i was preaching
00:26:47.600 at a church in murfreesboro tennessee talking about this book next weekend i'm going to be in
00:26:52.100 Dallas. The weekend after that, I'm going to be in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. After that,
00:26:57.340 I'll be in San Jose, California. I've been everywhere. And everywhere I go, people say,
00:27:01.280 I saw you on War Room. So it's kind of funny. Everywhere I go, people are greeting me and
00:27:07.940 saying, say hello to Steve. So hello from everywhere. Thank you. It's great the War
00:27:12.700 Posse's turn it. They love the book. They've made the book a New York Times bestseller,
00:27:15.920 one of the biggest selling, hottest books of the summer. Before you go, how many total hits
00:27:19.940 on Newsmax and Fox News, sir?
00:27:24.700 Fox News has not had me on.
00:27:27.660 Newsmax has had me on three very brief hits,
00:27:32.380 but that was just right in the beginning.
00:27:33.740 I hope they'll have me on again.
00:27:35.800 They've got to have you on again.
00:27:36.920 It's great.
00:27:37.440 Chris Reddy knows England.
00:27:38.500 He loves England.
00:27:39.380 Should have you on from London, from Oxford.
00:27:42.140 Great week.
00:27:42.820 We're going to check back in on an update
00:27:44.320 on the Inklings later in the week.
00:27:46.280 Say hi to everybody.
00:27:47.380 Socrates and the city in Oxford.
00:27:49.720 The Movable Feast of Socrates.
00:27:52.420 Eric, great job.
00:27:53.640 People love the book.
00:27:54.400 The book is revolution.
00:27:56.560 The sacred cause that is handed down to you.
00:28:00.160 Through every patriot's grave.
00:28:02.680 To the current time.
00:28:04.600 Yes, you are the same as the revolutionary generation.
00:28:09.480 Think about the responsibility you have.
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00:29:50.160 the winning this war requires boots on the ground i asked you that last time that's not very popular
00:29:56.600 with the american people um what what is what is your response to that it's not popular with me
00:30:01.820 either look i'm not a parent of a uh of an army person a marine person so i'm very sensitive to
00:30:07.420 that trust me um but look we have the army we have the marines for a reason they're not there
00:30:12.520 to shake your hand at the airport rachel okay they're there for a reason last i checked we
00:30:16.500 don't have a draft in this country so these courageous men and women know exactly what
00:30:20.540 they're signing up for this is war we don't want to see anybody die but this is war a war that
00:30:26.220 started 47 years ago that they started so yes i know the moral ground is to say i don't want our
00:30:32.180 kids to die. I feel the same way. But we got to win. Now, we can win maybe without putting boots
00:30:37.920 on the ground. Maybe we can. I don't know. I'm not Jack Keane. I don't have that type of
00:30:42.120 information. If we can do that, great. But if at some point it requires putting some boots on the
00:30:46.680 ground to win this war, that's why they signed up to fight for this country, to fight for President 0.99
00:30:52.220 Trump and to rid the world of evil animals like the Iranian regime. Economic consequences 0.99
00:30:58.460 for every historic and significant decision a president makes.
00:31:03.860 And I am confident that in the end,
00:31:07.000 President Trump will be judged as one of our greatest presidents for numerous reasons,
00:31:12.120 but especially this courageous undertaking.
00:31:15.580 And it may take time, context and perspective
00:31:20.680 to understand how extraordinary, how extraordinary the president's actions are
00:31:26.220 and how heroic they are under the circumstances,
00:31:31.180 since it seems that every element of our society,
00:31:33.720 except for you, Mr. and Mrs. America,
00:31:36.540 are objecting to him doing what he's doing,
00:31:39.260 which must be done.
00:31:42.360 You, Mr. and Mrs. America,
00:31:44.800 that have raised your kids upright
00:31:46.760 so they want to defend this country, 0.89
00:31:49.440 and Sid, was it Rosenberg, right there,
00:31:53.120 saying they know they signed up for another war
00:31:55.600 in the middle east not so sure about that um being one of the people that signed up and of course
00:32:02.440 my kid brother and daughter and many many people in the family but all served in the middle east
00:32:07.620 uh nick cleveland stout from quincy you've got a report that i want to make sure we go through
00:32:15.720 in detail so people can see and read for themselves and look at your backup data so
00:32:19.900 they come to their own conclusion. But it's pretty jaw-dropping. You basically assert from
00:32:26.560 your research that since October 7th, the Hamas attack, terrorist attack, surprise attack on
00:32:39.120 Israel, that since roughly that time, is it a billion dollars or close to a billion dollars
00:32:46.020 has been spent by Israel for influencers and radio,
00:32:50.720 and I'm not saying Sid or Mark Levin took that money.
00:32:53.060 I just want to use that as an example of some of the over-the-top pitches
00:32:56.500 you're hearing on Fox News right now.
00:32:58.720 But that a billion dollars has gone in an influence operation,
00:33:03.800 very sophisticated, very systematic, not just onesies, twosies,
00:33:07.580 but to basically change opinion or to influence opinion
00:33:11.780 and then political action in the United States, sir?
00:33:16.020 Yeah, first of all, thanks so much for having me. But that's exactly right, that about a billion dollars has been allocated for public diplomacy, Hasbara efforts abroad, not just in the U.S., but you can, I tracked about 100 million of those dollars has been spent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which is, as your viewers are probably well aware,
00:33:40.080 this law that requires contractors, lobbyists of foreign governments to disclose what they're
00:33:47.400 doing on behalf of foreign governments. So yeah, it's a lot of money and it's being used for a lot
00:33:52.720 of things, influencing chatbots, paying influencers, reaching out to evangelical
00:33:59.260 Christians, all kinds of things that we can get into. Now, this is separate. I just want to make
00:34:04.840 Sure. This is separate from AIPAC and money they put in either for lobbying or for giving money to political campaigns or for lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill, correct?
00:34:14.680 This is a totally – and the reason people are kind of shocked by it, they've had that – Israel has done that for years or people that are affiliated and support Israel have done that for years.
00:34:25.680 But this is a totally different bucket, correct?
00:34:29.860 That's exactly right.
00:34:30.940 This is a totally new strategy that was largely in response to, I think, them realizing that
00:34:37.040 they needed to put their thumb on the scale in a more meaningful way, like after just
00:34:41.580 the precipitous collapse of American public support for the U.S.-Israel relationship.
00:34:47.920 You know, whereas before they could rely on those organizations that you're describing,
00:34:51.620 like AIPAC, like Christians United for Israel, that are American-led, American-funded, you
00:34:58.840 Now they have to actually – the Israeli government is actually having to hire a lot of people under Farah, which they didn't do before.
00:35:06.100 But walk me through – well, in Farah, because I think there's more tension to these Farah laws today, people are realizing you could be prosecutor for this.
00:35:13.880 I think people for years did this without doing it, that you could be prosecutor for this, and so now they're much more.
00:35:20.140 But isn't this in response to – in fairness, isn't this in response to all of a sudden they were kind of overwhelmed by TikTok and Instagram?
00:35:28.840 of all these other influencers,
00:35:32.040 some of which money may have come from the Gulf Emirates.
00:35:35.540 Because remember, the theory of the war room,
00:35:37.620 we ain't got any friends over there. 0.94
00:35:39.620 The Gulf Emirates that we're defending, 0.88
00:35:41.340 and you got all these bases over there,
00:35:42.800 and kids are dying on these bases, 0.85
00:35:44.040 they're the same guys funding radical Islam 0.68
00:35:46.400 here in the United States.
00:35:47.620 They're not our allies.
00:35:48.940 And we can't keep kidding ourselves, they're our allies.
00:35:52.380 The Israelis, wasn't the fact they got caught by surprise,
00:35:55.760 particularly on TikTok and Instagram,
00:35:57.260 of this kind of flood of particularly of the early days of the Gaza war that all of a sudden
00:36:02.160 you can see, particularly among young people, they started to shift dramatically on their
00:36:06.420 support for Israel, which traditionally the country's just kind of had a, I don't want
00:36:10.260 to say knee jerk, but it was just always Israel's our greatest ally, right?
00:36:14.080 And all of a sudden they realized that with TikTok and Instagram, there was a very different
00:36:18.420 message getting out there and they were late to the party.
00:36:20.780 yeah to be clear a lot of different countries engage in in different kinds of foreign influence
00:36:27.420 and you know if you you know look at the the top spenders they're pretty much all gulf countries
00:36:31.700 you know so i've written about saudi arabia the united arab emirates uh cutter you know those
00:36:36.660 those countries in particular are very invested in in influencing um you know elite opinion american
00:36:42.420 public opinion um you know i think that a lot of the i will say hold on i want to make sure hang
00:36:48.180 Hang on, I want to make sure I get this clear, because this is why you're such an important guy.
00:36:51.580 You're covering it all.
00:36:53.040 They're doing that so that we support them, but they're also trying to under,
00:36:59.880 particularly with, you can see it in Texas and throughout the country, 0.99
00:37:03.240 with this kind of what I call this Islamic invasion. 1.00
00:37:05.200 The money's all coming from Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Qatar, particularly Qatar. 0.87
00:37:10.480 But they're very active in the social media to influence American, not just opinion,
00:37:16.020 but to turn it into political power, correct?
00:37:18.180 political power from the United States that supports them in the Gulf, correct?
00:37:23.980 All of these countries are very invested in winning over, yeah, exactly like you said,
00:37:29.720 American public opinion, elite opinion. I mean, a lot of, I think a lot of the response though,
00:37:35.700 to, you know, this precipitous collapse in American public support, I don't think you can
00:37:41.940 just chalk up to foreign influence. Like a lot of it is very organic, you know, seeing the images
00:37:47.100 coming out of Gaza, seeing churches being bombed.
00:37:50.220 I know a lot of evangelical Christians have been very upset seeing what's coming out of
00:37:53.820 Gaza.
00:37:55.420 And then there are plenty of like America first, like very, you know, genuine America 0.63
00:37:58.640 first concerns over, you know, the fact that Israel has played a role in getting the U.S.
00:38:04.960 into this war with Iran.
00:38:06.460 So, you know, I think a lot of those countries have, you mentioned, have been active in this
00:38:11.320 space.
00:38:12.120 I haven't seen that they've directly paid influencers.
00:38:15.360 That seems relatively new.
00:38:17.100 But these countries definitely sponsor delegations of influencers to come over.
00:38:21.900 Qatar has done that. Saudi Arabia has done that.
00:38:24.500 So they're all very, very active in trying to win over these important stakeholders.
00:38:30.960 Do we have enough to make it visible?
00:38:34.480 First off, I think it should be banned.
00:38:36.200 But to make it visible, is the foreign – because you said right now from the Gulf Emirates in your research, I don't think any of the influence – the money that's going to people.
00:38:45.680 and there is money going to people is not fully reported.
00:38:49.960 Do we have laws in the book so that the American people can say,
00:38:52.820 hey, if it's the Israelis or if it's Qatar,
00:38:55.460 I can fully understand that they're feeding me stuff that they want us,
00:38:59.460 that they want me to react to and to support them.
00:39:02.420 Is there enough regulation of this that the American people would be able to say,
00:39:08.020 hey, because we don't want to limit what people see,
00:39:10.500 but when you see it, you know that, hey, somebody's giving me their point of view
00:39:14.800 because they want me to respond to what they want to have happen.
00:39:21.620 We do.
00:39:22.740 In the Foreign Agents Registration Act,
00:39:24.640 if you register as a foreign agent,
00:39:26.340 you're given a packet full of instructions
00:39:28.380 about how to comply with the law.
00:39:30.840 And if you look at that,
00:39:32.480 it says that if you post online, for instance,
00:39:35.460 then you have to always disclose
00:39:37.940 that you are a paid agent of a foreign government.
00:39:40.720 It's called a conspicuous statement.
00:39:42.640 And if you look, you know, some foreign agents actually do abide by this. You know, if you look at like Rod Blagojevich, for instance, he's a registered foreign agent for Republika Srpska, and he's very transparent. Like whenever he posts on Twitter, he always says, you know, I'm doing this because I'm a paid foreign agent.
00:39:59.780 And that's part of the problem is like, you know, something that Marjorie Taylor Greene has pointed out is it's so difficult to know who is paid and who's not in the foreign influence space.
00:40:09.500 The problem is it's not enforced, right?
00:40:11.360 There are a lot of influencers who are being paid, but we just don't know who they are.
00:40:15.500 You know, the same way when you're scrolling your timeline and you see an ad for, you know, a pair of Nike shoes and it says, you know, this is an ad.
00:40:23.280 But hang on.
00:40:23.900 But hang on.
00:40:24.600 You're seeing $100 million.
00:40:25.560 they'll start with what we do know and if that's being enforced then we start what we don't know
00:40:29.620 it's not being the 100 million dollars in fact i think and i was kind of shocked at this because
00:40:35.240 i know brad pretty well but parscale brad parscale who was our head of digital uh in the uh in the
00:40:41.440 first trump campaign i think even the second trump campaign there was some perturbation i think he's
00:40:45.020 still running he's an expert brad's one of the smartest guys in the world of this that's why
00:40:49.000 he's always been part of the the trump movement um brad he and his partner bought salem radio
00:40:54.940 and Salem Radio, and people should understand this,
00:40:57.700 they bought Salem Radio.
00:40:59.500 I don't think they paid anything for the equity.
00:41:00.920 They bought the debt at a huge discount.
00:41:02.660 Why was that?
00:41:03.780 Because the hosts at Salem Radio
00:41:06.020 were not generating a big enough audience
00:41:08.220 to really get the ad revenues to pay for it.
00:41:11.460 So Brad Parscale, did they take,
00:41:14.140 was it 50 or $60 million directly from Israel
00:41:16.700 and Brad actually registered as a foreign agent?
00:41:20.120 Yeah, so he registered as a foreign agent of Israel
00:41:22.920 in September of last year.
00:41:24.940 And his contract has been upped many times by the Israeli government.
00:41:28.960 So initially it was for $1.5 million a month.
00:41:32.060 Then it was $3 million a month.
00:41:33.780 Now he's getting $4.5 million a month.
00:41:36.880 And yeah, he's doing a number of things for the Israeli government.
00:41:40.420 He's been the largest recipient of these funds that are trickling down to American contractors working for the Israeli government.
00:41:47.860 So over the course of a year, he's set to get just shy of $50 million.
00:41:53.160 Okay, 50 million.
00:41:54.100 So let's – I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:41:56.660 But if I'm listening to Salem Radio, do they have a disclosure that says that they are funded by a foreign agent of the Israeli government?
00:42:05.780 I mean you talk about there's regulations that they have to post.
00:42:08.860 If you have AM Radio, which is still kind of from the Rush Limbaugh school of getting the word out, very powerful, particularly in the MAGA movement, particularly in rural areas.
00:42:17.860 or do they have disclosures now on all their scoters including scott jennings and all these
00:42:22.260 guys hugh hewitt that they are financed and basically kept alive by a foreign agent of
00:42:29.360 money coming directly from israel sir they do not um and to clarify though so so parscale has a firm
00:42:36.720 called clock tower x which is the the llc that this 50 million dollars is coming through um and
00:42:43.240 Parscale is doing a lot of things on behalf of the Israeli government. One of the things is that
00:42:49.500 he's carrying out a mass texting campaign. He's texting, you know, what appears to be millions
00:42:53.900 and millions of Americans, asking them about their views on Israel, lightly pushing, you know,
00:42:58.960 pro-Israeli narratives. He's also creating a number of websites on behalf of the Israeli
00:43:03.320 government. They talk about, you know, how great of an ally Israel is, you know, why it's important
00:43:08.640 for the US to support Israel in the war in Iran, all these different things. So those are two of
00:43:13.740 the main things that he's doing. But there is this other element of, you know, in the initial
00:43:18.420 contract, he said that part of his work would be to integrate pro-Israel messaging into Salem
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00:46:45.440 Do I have the trailer?
00:46:46.940 Not yet.
00:46:47.580 just tell me when. I'm going to talk to you about one of my favorite films. He talked about this
00:46:51.400 thing about being influencing and how controversial. So how much money has Salem actually gotten
00:46:59.440 from this, I guess you're saying now, up to $50 million that Parscale's taken as an agent of
00:47:06.100 influence for Israel? And he's signed government documents saying, hey, I'm doing it. I'm taking
00:47:12.240 the money. So I want to make sure that I report accurately. Uh, he's doing, uh, influencer
00:47:17.760 campaigns or is he disclosing who he's given the money to on the texting side, on the influencing
00:47:22.680 side, on the, on whatever they're doing on Twitter, or is it just disclosing what he's doing at Salem?
00:47:30.880 Parscale has disclosed quite a bit about what he's doing. Um, so the company that's carrying
00:47:34.620 out the mass texting campaign is called spark fire technologies. Um, he's given them upwards
00:47:39.540 of five million dollars to carry out this campaign i know a lot of people that have gotten these
00:47:43.560 texts um you know they'll reach out they'll say something like hey do they disclose hang on do
00:47:48.640 they disclose that they're agents of the israeli government in the text they do not and that's a
00:47:53.780 very important point they'll reach out initially they'll say something whoa whoa whoa whoa isn't
00:47:58.200 that a violation of federal law so it's it appears as though so basically they at some point in the
00:48:05.500 conversation, they will send a link to one of these pro-Israel websites that are created by
00:48:11.540 Parscale. And if you click that website and go to the very, very bottom, and then you see a
00:48:18.240 statement that says this is a paid campaign from the Israeli government. I don't know about you,
00:48:23.580 but I typically don't click links from random chatbots that reach out.
00:48:28.140 But whose responsibility? It's not a self-reporting thing. Whose responsibility? When you're a foreign
00:48:32.640 agent who is supposed to be checking that and going to parscale and say hey look at the bottom
00:48:36.560 of the fifth page is not good enough you need it in block letters up at the top just like if qatar
00:48:42.560 is doing it or the ccp is doing it it should be in block letters right up there so the american
00:48:46.960 people you shouldn't block the content so the american people can't say you should see it you
00:48:50.960 can weigh and measure it but you should know if it's coming from a government that's paying the
00:48:56.240 guy to do it this is not just a group of americans saying hey look we support israel is it let's put
00:49:01.120 put on a play, right? No. So whose responsibility is to enforce this?
00:49:06.580 It's the Department of Justice. And I think it's a very important point, though, that this is like
00:49:11.200 not just an Israel-specific thing. This is like if anyone is carrying out this campaign,
00:49:15.440 they need to disclose that they are funded on behalf of a foreign government, that they're
00:49:20.240 carrying this out on behalf of a foreign government. So yeah, it's the Department of
00:49:23.460 Justice's responsibility to ensure that different foreign agents are disclosing everything that
00:49:29.920 they need to be. And, you know, it appears to me as though Parscale in these texts is not meeting
00:49:36.760 that threshold. What would they do? They've taken $500,000 on Salem Radio. You said he's even
00:49:44.260 disclosed that. Do they put up any disclaimer at all on their website? They put up any disclaimer
00:49:48.420 during their shows that we are partially funded or we are taking money from a registered foreign
00:49:55.140 agent of the Israeli government, sir? I haven't seen anything along those lines. But, you know,
00:50:01.920 Parscale is clearly in a position to be able to integrate these pro-Israel messaging into
00:50:08.340 Salem Media properties. You know, he's the chief strategy officer over there. And, you know, he said
00:50:15.500 that he hasn't really done anything related to Salem Media. But in his initial filing, you know,
00:50:20.020 he made very clear that that was one of his top priorities. And one of his closest allies just
00:50:24.940 played a large role in the buyout of sale and media about a month and a half ago.
00:50:30.660 Yeah. No, they bought it out. He and his partner bought it out. Qatar, whether it's New York City,
00:50:36.780 the public education, I can tell you down in Texas, between Pakistan, Saudis, Turks, but really Qatar,
00:50:43.620 we're getting flooded with propaganda about Islam and about the benefits of Islam.
00:50:50.620 Is anybody in the Justice Department, if they're not self-disclosing, at least Pascal disclosed so he's in public thing.
00:50:55.980 I'm an agent of the Israeli government.
00:50:58.540 There are tons of – there's tons of cash coming in from the Gulf Emirates, as you know.
00:51:03.180 Is anybody enforced that?
00:51:04.560 And do we need somebody at the Justice Department to say, hey, look, you've got to get on top of this.
00:51:07.960 They've got people in the United States acting as their agents.
00:51:11.680 They're not disclosing it, sir.
00:51:14.500 Definitely.
00:51:15.760 There needs to be far more disclosure.
00:51:17.960 I think we've seen just a lack of enforcement in this Justice Department, unfortunately, when it comes to foreign influence.
00:51:27.940 You know, we have laws on the books, but unfortunately, you know, it seems like—
00:51:33.320 But hang on.
00:51:33.620 But Biden didn't do it any better.
00:51:35.660 My point is it's kind of the apparatus.
00:51:38.200 The apparatus is just not interesting.
00:51:39.780 We see this in the disclosures of Palti.
00:51:41.660 Anyway, we've got to bounce.
00:51:43.060 I'm going to have you back on tomorrow.
00:51:44.060 I've got so many more questions.
00:51:45.120 But I want everybody to read this report, and if Moe and Elizabeth and Grace can act as force multiply, send it out to the posse, I need everybody to read it.
00:51:53.420 Nick, you're going to be back on this tomorrow.
00:51:55.060 Until that time, your social media, where do they go to get your research, sir?
00:52:00.040 Yeah, the Quincy Institute, quincyinst.org, plenty of good stuff there.
00:52:05.700 You can read the entire report for yourself, The Eighth Front.
00:52:09.420 You can also follow me on Twitter, Nick Cleveland Stout.
00:52:13.000 I think my username is Nick underscore Cleveland S.
00:52:18.360 The Eighth Front.
00:52:19.440 In fact, tomorrow, I will start off by asking Nick,
00:52:22.700 what is the Eighth Front?
00:52:24.460 Nick, thank you so much for coming on today.
00:52:25.920 I appreciate you.
00:52:26.700 Thanks for having me.
00:52:28.900 On our first show back without the great Sam Faddis.
00:52:33.160 Unbelievable.
00:52:34.200 Tomorrow, 5 to 7, Natalie and Jack are going to be co-hosting.
00:52:39.580 We're going to do a special Sam Faddis for two hours,
00:52:41.840 and we're going to tie it to current events
00:52:43.320 because Sam would have been all over the show
00:52:46.540 with both Zelensky and Netanyahu in town
00:52:49.620 for meetings about Lindsey Graham's funeral,
00:52:52.440 attending Lindsey Graham's funeral.
00:52:53.740 Sam Faddis, I think, would have
00:52:55.380 one or two observations about that,
00:52:58.380 and we'll tie it all together.
00:53:00.580 The Charlie Kirk Show is next.
00:53:02.380 Andrew Colvette in the team.
00:53:04.080 Poso will be up, fully operational in his studio
00:53:07.600 after his trip overseas at 2 o'clock.
00:53:10.700 You've got Steve Gruber's going to be in Michigan.
00:53:12.480 President's leaving.
00:53:13.360 In fact, we had it in the box.
00:53:14.460 Leaving for Michigan.
00:53:15.920 Gruber's going to be there live and then bowling and then back to the war room at 5 o'clock.
00:53:21.160 We'll be here at 5 to 7 at night.
00:53:23.340 Until then, you've been in the war room.
00:53:27.500 We'll see you back there at 5.
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