Bannon's War Room - August 07, 2026


Episode 5573: Top American General Form Backchannel With CCP


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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.
00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.000 The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:29.000 wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task
00:00:36.360 and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.220 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:00:52.680 It's Friday, 7 August, Year of Our Lord, 2026. We continue on with our interviews,
00:00:58.280 are really conversations, not even interviews, conversations with those individuals kind of
00:01:02.820 leading the race to win this primary for the governorship of the free state of Florida and
00:01:09.780 to follow Governor DeSantis. James Fishback joins us. James has been on the show, you know,
00:01:14.460 many times. In fact, Fishback, I got a question. We've had you on and you've done some of the most
00:01:19.460 sophisticated breakdown of, in fact, I still love your thing about why the Fed has always got the
00:01:25.720 interest rates wrong. You go through all the detail and mechanics of that. How does a finance
00:01:31.440 guy transform himself into be a fire-breathing, throw-down populace as you've kind of been
00:01:37.600 on the campaign trail in Florida? How's that happen?
00:01:41.660 Well, Steve, good morning. When you stare at the Bloomberg terminal long enough,
00:01:45.040 that fire builds in your belly and you just want to go out and do it for not just the state that
00:01:49.880 I love and my family is called home for four generations, but for this entire country,
00:01:54.300 We're building something incredible on the ground here.
00:01:57.160 When I first got into this race seven months ago, I was polling at nearly 2%, all the way up to 2%.
00:02:03.260 Now this is a two-man race between myself and Congressman Donald's.
00:02:07.320 It's not about him versus me.
00:02:08.900 It's about the visions that we have for not just the future of Florida, but the future of our great country. 0.98
00:02:14.840 And I'm fighting to end the H-1B scam.
00:02:17.300 I'm fighting to stop these experimental data centers from being built in our neighborhoods. 1.00
00:02:21.000 I'm fighting to stop foreign nationals from buying up our homes and contributing to the housing supply crisis. 0.99
00:02:27.520 Stop Blackstone and BlackRock from turning our neighborhoods into short-term rental communities because we are not, Steve. 1.00
00:02:33.440 We are not a nation of renters.
00:02:35.640 We are a nation of owners.
00:02:37.420 And this is really a campaign that is fighting for America first.
00:02:39.960 Hang on a second.
00:02:40.680 I want to get into your vision, not for the country, but as a governorship, because people are going to say,
00:02:46.000 hey, how can some Wall Street guy come in without elective office and actually be a governor of a free state?
00:02:53.360 And the reason it's a free state of Florida, DeSantis has done a heck of a job.
00:02:55.960 I'm DeSantis' biggest critic when he ran against President Trump, but I'm a big supporter of his of what he's done.
00:03:02.540 First off, how does a guy with a Wall Street tool set, how are you actually going to be a guy that can step in to the role and actually be governor?
00:03:11.500 Given how brutal Tallahassee is as a place to kind of manage, how are you going to do that?
00:03:18.080 It's a great question, Steve.
00:03:19.580 So I was actually the anti-Wall Street investor.
00:03:22.600 My investment firm, Azoria, which launched at Mar-a-Lago in 2024, we had an expressed
00:03:27.720 mandate to never invest in companies that pursue the anti-white racism known as DEI.
00:03:33.000 And we successfully channeled $42 million of private capital into small and medium-sized
00:03:38.360 companies all over Florida and across the country who wanted to hire people based on merit as
00:03:43.720 opposed to race or gender. And so the way you do it is not be the Wall Street guy. I'm the only guy
00:03:49.540 who has called out Wall Street for buying up our homes. I'm the only guy who has called out the
00:03:53.300 financialization of the prediction markets that turn President Trump's press conferences into a
00:03:58.640 degenerate gambling casino. We need more Main Street and less Wall Street. And so my expertise
00:04:04.200 really is breaking the mold, thinking outside the box, and getting the job done no matter what.
00:04:10.600 I was told by Wall Street, you're never going to be able to start an investment firm
00:04:14.420 anti-DEI. That's exactly what we did. We delivered superior returns for our investors.
00:04:20.460 So hang on a second. This is one of the questions I've asked all the candidates is that
00:04:23.620 so many people I know from Florida, it's almost like Texas, they had this deep abiding love for
00:04:29.220 Florida and particularly old Florida. They're there for a reason and have helped support this
00:04:33.300 state now tons of people are moving all over the country given the job that governor de santis and
00:04:38.380 others have done down to the free state but you know wall street and you know how it transforms
00:04:43.480 things i mean ken griffin all these guys are heading to south florida what are you going to
00:04:47.480 do as governor to make sure that we still got the florida that floridians love and it's not taken
00:04:54.140 over by tech bros these broligarchs it's not taken over by the lords of easy money that are
00:04:59.160 pouring in every single day into South Florida, sir?
00:05:04.140 The way you stop it is by remembering what Florida is about. I respect some of these
00:05:08.900 Wall Street guys, but Florida is not intending to be a Wall Street. I haven't met a single
00:05:12.840 Floridian from Pensacola to Jacksonville who has stopped me, Steve, and said, please,
00:05:17.240 what is your plan to bring more hedge funds and private equity firms to Florida? We don't want
00:05:22.080 that. What we want is young men to be able to find a woman, marry her, and buy a home before 0.99
00:05:27.400 the age of 30. We want couples to be able to raise their family on a single income if they 0.72
00:05:32.140 so choose. And we want our parents and grandparents to be able to retire comfortably. So how do you
00:05:37.660 stand up to them? You tell them the truth. We are glad that you are here, but with all due respect,
00:05:43.120 don't transform our state into the place that you fled. And I'm not just talking about Democrat
00:05:48.080 crime and I'm not just talking about radical teachers unions. I'm talking about the financial
00:05:52.900 socialization that is destroying our country and upending the fabric of our society. My view is
00:05:58.300 clear. The future of Florida is not being New York or California or Illinois. In fact, the future of
00:06:04.540 Florida is not in the future. The future of Florida is in our past. In the 90s, it was easier to do
00:06:10.380 almost anything in our state. We have to get back to that and we're not going to be able to do that
00:06:15.560 unless we stop data centers, stop the overdevelopment, end the H-1B scam, prevent private
00:06:21.780 equity from buying homes and never let foreign nationals buy up our properties in Florida,
00:06:26.960 because that's only going to make it harder for cops, firefighters, teachers, and small business 0.52
00:06:31.060 owners to buy a place of their own and start a family. Okay. Okay. I'm going to play a clip in
00:06:36.440 a second about some, um, Harry Anton and the CNN guys has some, I think very shocking and alarming
00:06:42.000 news, uh, about the MAGA movement. They've been polling about a blue collar and non non-college
00:06:47.820 graduates dropping away but i want to go back to the office you're actually running for a governor
00:06:53.580 fishback walk me through the policies particularly for young people you have obviously galvanized
00:06:58.820 young voters down in florida these we follow very closely uh all the things you're doing at
00:07:04.200 these town halls it's it's pretty impressive for them as governor fishback walk me through the
00:07:09.360 policies because tallahassee is a tough place and the real estate interests and the you know
00:07:14.740 the special interests have had a big say-so in how Florida has developed, right?
00:07:20.240 What is Governor Fishback going to do specifically to have the backs of these young people talk
00:07:25.200 about, hey, I'm going to make sure you get a home, make sure you can have a family,
00:07:28.520 make sure the family formation is around.
00:07:30.300 How's Governor Fishback going to do that?
00:07:32.960 That's a great question.
00:07:34.060 First, quite literally, everything is unaffordable if you don't have a job.
00:07:37.580 And so I met a student from Florida State University in Tallahassee a couple months ago,
00:07:41.820 4.0 GPA top of his class computer science major didn't study gender studies and then he went on
00:07:47.700 to apply for a hundred different positions at a company and out of respect Steve I won't name the
00:07:51.700 company but it was Amazon and Amazon came back to him and said we are not hiring right now we're
00:07:57.100 only hiring H1Bs instead I would apply a dynamic fine on any of the 1900 companies in Florida 0.63
00:08:04.740 that are firing or refusing to hire Floridians and replacing them with cheap foreign labor from 0.99
00:08:10.100 India or Pakistan. You cannot put foreigners at the front of the line while qualified Floridians 1.00
00:08:15.700 struggle to get work. The H-1B program, yes, is a federal issue, but that doesn't prevent a governor,
00:08:21.520 the state, from stepping in and trying to stop it. And what I propose is that companies are doing
00:08:26.180 this because they want to save money. Great. You want to save $20,000 hiring a guy from India?
00:08:31.060 Congrats. You're going to pay a $20,000 annual fine to make up the difference and to eliminate 1.00
00:08:36.120 the labor cost arbitrage, which in itself is what fuels this program. When you stop the cost savings,
00:08:42.420 you protect Florida workers. That's the first thing we're going to do. Number two,
00:08:45.780 how do we make it easier to buy a home? Now, here's the difference between me and my opponents.
00:08:49.560 My opponents want to do affordable housing. The year is 2030. BlackRock owns everything. You own
00:08:55.740 nothing and you live in a section eight shed. That's what affordable housing is. I don't want
00:09:00.020 you living in a 500 square foot shed with 30 people in your immediate vicinity. I want you
00:09:05.440 to own a single family home, three bed, two bath, like my sister and I grew up in with our great
00:09:09.960 parents down in South Florida. To do that, you have to make housing affordable. To do that,
00:09:15.880 you have to stop Airbnb from buying up all these homes through their speculators. You have to stop
00:09:20.660 Blackstone and BlackRock and Wall Street. And yes, you have to stop foreign nationals. If you got a 1.00
00:09:26.340 guy from Brazil or Russia or Ukraine coming to Florida, as they often do, to buy up our homes 0.98
00:09:32.300 for a vacation property or a tax haven or an investment that takes the home off the market,
00:09:37.820 contributes to a shortage, which is hurting teachers and cops and firefighters and young
00:09:42.820 couples and everyone. There's two ways to address a shortage, Steve. One way is to build a bunch
00:09:49.160 more supply, Section 8-style housing. That's what my opponents want to do. The other way to address
00:09:54.160 the shortage is to prevent the greed and the excess of foreign investors, BlackRock and Blackstone,
00:10:00.700 coming into our communities and buying up every last home. Wall Street now owns 117,000 homes in
00:10:06.720 my state. That's 117,000 homes that Floridians can't buy, can't own, and can't start a family
00:10:12.920 in. So those are two ways, concrete, substantive ways at the state level, whether it's levying a
00:10:19.060 fine on these companies that abuse the H-1B program, or it is levying a dynamic fine on
00:10:25.240 companies that are buying up all of our housing. You create a disincentive, you create a deterrent,
00:10:30.700 And you will be able to deter the behavior that we want nothing to do with.
00:10:35.820 James, the president is at what's in kind of some of these Supreme Court rulings like birthright citizenship.
00:10:40.920 He signed trying to stop birth tourism.
00:10:44.160 We know that other governors are talking about this right now.
00:10:46.860 A bunch of the MAGA base in Texas trying to force Abbott to do something.
00:10:51.820 Understanding it's a lot of federal law, but what would you do as governor on illegal immigration, these asylum programs, all of it in the free state of Florida?
00:11:00.700 It's a great question, Steve. And I want to break a little bit of news here, if I will, because I'm such a big fan of what you do and such a big fan of War Room. The federal government does not issue birth certificates. The states do. And as governor, I will direct the Department of Vital Statistics when I am governor to never certify a birth certificate of anyone born to illegal aliens in my state.
00:11:23.580 The Supreme Court can keep playing its games and refusing to actually study the Fourth Amendment, but it's very clear what the 14th Amendment rather represents.
00:11:33.860 And as governor, I will not, under any circumstances, allow the Department of Vital Statistics to certify and stamp birth certificates for the children of illegal aliens.
00:11:43.480 Hang on, because this is what the MAGA leaders have been trying to get Governor Abbott to do.
00:11:48.180 Brian Harris and this team down there are trying to get Governor Abbott to do in Texas.
00:11:51.560 I just want to make sure people understand something. What did you just say about this?
00:11:55.660 What you would do as governor of Florida would do what? Let's back up. Birthright citizenship,
00:12:01.640 big lofty idea. 14th amendment. The Supreme court says we're not going to do anything about it.
00:12:07.880 The people who are born here illegally are actually citizens. Well, actually the Supreme 1.00
00:12:11.520 court and Amy Commie Barrett, she's not the one certifying the birth certificates. I'm the one
00:12:16.820 certifying the birth certificates. It would be my department of vital health statistics
00:12:21.180 that certifies and stamps birth certificates. And what I will direct that department to do
00:12:26.160 when I am governor is I will direct them to never issue stamp or certify a birth certificate
00:12:31.840 for the children of illegal aliens in my state. Then, then we take real control back. And that's 0.66
00:12:40.120 how we solve this issue. Remember the States, the States were not created by the federal government.
00:12:45.200 The states created the federal government.
00:12:47.380 And if the Supreme Court does not have the courage to act here, I'm asking Florida voters to vote for me, James Fishback, on August 18th to put the nail in the birthright citizenship coffin once and for all. 0.92
00:13:00.200 The temporary, the TPS has been overruled for the Haitians. 0.99
00:13:04.140 They've been here for 16 years.
00:13:06.320 In Ohio, Governor DeWine came out and said, oh, no, they've done such a great job.
00:13:10.180 They've built Ohio.
00:13:11.120 They need to stay.
00:13:12.500 You've had Mark Wayne Mullen that actually gave him a heads up.
00:13:15.220 Hey, why don't you go for permanent status under a governor fishback?
00:13:19.600 What would be what would be the status of temporary protective status in the free state of Florida, sir?
00:13:25.600 Well, it turns out, Steve, there's nothing more permanent in Washington, D.C. than temporary protected status.
00:13:31.300 I remember the Hershey, the Haitian earthquake vividly in 2010. 0.94
00:13:34.420 Barack Hussein Obama allowed hundreds of thousands of Haitians to come to my state and actually bankrupt my father's business. 0.99
00:13:40.880 He was in a landscaping and tree cutting business. 1.00
00:13:43.480 And all of a sudden, when you unleash third world foreign labor on his business line, 0.99
00:13:47.940 guess what? 1.00
00:13:48.700 He gets undercut and he lost his business just less than a year after that earthquake
00:13:52.960 and TPS was approved.
00:13:54.140 And so I know the effects personally.
00:13:55.960 Here's what I would do.
00:13:57.100 First and foremost, if you are on TPS, you are not going to have work authorization in
00:14:02.200 the state of Florida.
00:14:03.560 Any company in Florida that employs someone with TPS will not be able to do so because
00:14:09.600 we are going to change the law and we are going to enforce the law that we now change we cannot let
00:14:16.320 you fire qualified citizens employ cheap foreign labor even if it's under the guise of a so-called 0.73
00:14:23.440 legal tps program and displace so many hard workers and their families and their futures
00:14:30.160 and so guess what you'll find out steve is that when you tell tps and employers that they cannot
00:14:35.440 work, that they cannot be employed, that they cannot have access to work authorization,
00:14:40.700 they then lose all the incentive to be here, and they will re-migrate back to Haiti. We are going 1.00
00:14:46.020 to make sure of that. No government benefits for anybody on TPS. It is still the case that TPS
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00:16:15.960 going on here? What is going on, Mr. Berman? What's going on is simple, is the MAGA movement was built
00:16:20.960 among the working class, non-college Americans. And take a look at this trend line that we're
00:16:26.340 looking at the data. Here we go. Okay, net favorability rating, the MAGA movement,
00:16:30.300 non-college adults. Back in October of 2024, look at that, on the plus side of the ledger,
00:16:35.060 positive, plus six points. Down we go into the Atlantic Ocean. Now, look at this movement,
00:16:40.640 now minus 22 points. That is a shift, Johnny B, of 28 points away from the MAGA movement,
00:16:50.300 away with non-college Americans. So the bottom line is, is the group at which the Trump movement
00:16:55.760 was built upon, they are shifting away and saying, we don't like MAGA anymore.
00:17:00.180 Same question, same poll here.
00:17:01.520 This is really interesting to see these numbers move like that.
00:17:03.980 Yes, exactly right.
00:17:04.840 So same question, same poll.
00:17:06.740 All right.
00:17:07.100 So how about what the same group is saying about Donald Trump specifically?
00:17:11.620 Yeah, OK.
00:17:12.080 So you know what?
00:17:12.680 The idea being, OK, maybe they've soured on MAGA, but they haven't saved, soured on MAGA,
00:17:18.500 but maybe they haven't soured on me, Donald Trump might be saying.
00:17:21.420 Ain't the truth.
00:17:22.040 Take a look here.
00:17:22.760 OK.
00:17:23.240 Non-college voters on Trump.
00:17:24.800 Hello.
00:17:25.340 OK.
00:17:25.600 in the 2024 election. He won them by 13 points, right? That was the reason he won. He won among
00:17:30.720 non-college voters, a very strong performance amongst them. And that, of course, was the
00:17:35.440 reason he was able to win because college voters were against him. But look at this now. Minus 19
00:17:40.240 points. Minus 19 points. We're talking about an even bigger shift here. We're talking about,
00:17:44.300 what is this? This is a 32-point shift away from the president of the United States when it comes
00:17:50.520 to his key core political group.
00:17:52.740 This is why he's in so much trouble.
00:17:54.400 It's not just that college voters are against Trump now.
00:17:57.200 It turns out that non-college voters,
00:17:59.060 the ones that he built his presidential bid on,
00:18:01.000 have waved adios, goodbye, see you later, Mr. Trump.
00:18:04.020 Let me have it.
00:18:05.280 Okay, Fishback.
00:18:06.600 I'm not looking for a theoretical answer to this,
00:18:09.760 and I'm not looking for you to be a pundit.
00:18:11.740 So I don't need advice to President Trump,
00:18:13.380 and I don't want to talk about the nation overall.
00:18:15.480 One thing is very obvious about your campaign.
00:18:17.880 And you have galvanized young people and working class people in the free state of Florida.
00:18:22.800 How have you done it?
00:18:24.000 What is the response?
00:18:24.960 Why does it seem like in your campaign it's quite different than maybe some of the national numbers we're seeing?
00:18:30.400 What have you done and what have you talked to these folks about to have such an enthusiasm among it looks like the very demographic that on a national level it may be drifting away from us, sir?
00:18:42.880 i've told them the truth that things are not getting better it is getting harder to get a job
00:18:50.680 to buy a home and to start a family when my dad was growing up in south florida in the 1960s half
00:18:55.780 half of 30 year old men were married and owned their home today that's less than 15 percent and
00:19:01.580 so i haven't just addressed their issues i've actually advanced a substantive plan to make
00:19:07.260 homeownership more accessible to protect American jobs right here in Florida. And I've also think
00:19:13.200 that we've been very clever by how we've shown up. We've gone a Waffle House tour. We showed up and
00:19:18.020 had 300 people at multiple Waffle Houses. I've done a state college tour. We went to Taco Bell.
00:19:24.080 We've done late nights at diners, early sunrise events. Next week, Steve, I'll make history to
00:19:29.520 be the first candidate in Florida to campaign for 24 hours straight from midnight to midnight,
00:19:36.320 12 different events all around the clock. And so one, you got to hear them. Two, you got to have
00:19:42.440 a plan for them. And three, you have to actually show up, not the Lincoln day dinners, not the
00:19:48.360 Madison day dinners, but show up and meet them where they are. And that's what our campaign has
00:19:53.280 done. The latest polls have us winning under 35 Republicans by North of 60 points. Steve,
00:19:59.720 that is a third world dictator margin. Some would say that is Kim Jong unbelievable.
00:20:07.020 James, Donald's is a sitting congressman. Renner has been the former Speaker of the House.
00:20:12.980 Collins is the current Lieutenant Governor. You're a fire-breathing populist from Wall Street. Make
00:20:18.480 the case for a couple of minutes as we close out with you. Why should people risk a vote
00:20:23.660 that you can actually not just win an election, but actually govern the free state of Florida,
00:20:29.160 sir? I respect my opponents. I won't come on here and slander them. I believe
00:20:34.020 President Reagan's 11th commandment to never speak ill of your fellow Republican.
00:20:38.420 Here's what I'll say. My opponents collectively have 34 years of political experience. If they
00:20:43.680 had a plan to address the H-1B crisis, to bring down property taxes, to lower insurance, and to
00:20:49.580 protect Florida, they would have done it already. They've been in office for 34 years. I, for the
00:20:55.360 last decade, have been building a business, investing capital in businesses all over my state,
00:21:00.420 and fighting for the values that we care about.
00:21:03.000 You're right.
00:21:03.820 I don't have any political experience, and I am proud of it.
00:21:07.660 Neither did President Trump.
00:21:09.180 Really, neither did Governor DeSantis.
00:21:11.400 Neither did a guy by the name of Ronald Reagan.
00:21:13.460 And sure as heck, neither did the 35-year-old named James Madison,
00:21:18.200 the 28-year-old named Thomas Jefferson,
00:21:21.740 and the 21-year-old named Alexander Hamilton.
00:21:24.840 I believe that young men built this country,
00:21:27.700 and young men will save this country.
00:21:30.040 I am the only candidate who has ever held town halls in all 67 of the Florida counties.
00:21:36.440 I have shown up.
00:21:37.320 I have taken tough questions.
00:21:38.880 And most importantly, I don't believe in this era of trust-me-bro politics.
00:21:42.980 I believe politicians in both parties.
00:21:45.400 The Democrats, sure, but even the rhino neocon Republicans have lied to us.
00:21:50.420 That's why I'm the only candidate in this race who signed a legally binding contract, Steve,
00:21:55.220 that if I break a single one of my promises to Florida voters, I legally irrevocably forfeit my
00:22:01.880 run to reelection in 2030. You can see that full contract at fishbackcontract.com. And I'll leave
00:22:08.940 you with this. I believe that to make good policy, you need to be able to hear directly from the
00:22:15.340 voters. I'm asking any voter who is undecided, who has any questions for me to personally email me
00:22:22.620 at james at fishback2026.com. I've been working through hundreds of emails in just the last
00:22:30.360 couple of days. I want to hear directly from Florida voters. What is the number one issue
00:22:35.560 for you and your family? And I want to give you the opportunity to hear directly from me,
00:22:40.840 because I hope I can earn your vote in the Republican primary on August 18th.
00:22:45.840 James, also social media. People want to find out where they go, where they see you,
00:22:50.220 the 24 hours where they go to get all the details all the details james fishback if you just search
00:22:56.680 that on social media you'll be able to find me and what we just started a new site this morning
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00:23:39.100 James Fisk back. Good on you, sir. Glad you could make it this morning. Thank you very much for
00:23:43.340 being in the war room. Thank you, Steve.
00:23:47.900 James Fishback.
00:23:48.880 We had him on a bunch as a financier, and now he is a fire-breathing.
00:23:56.560 Particularly with young people.
00:23:57.640 It's pretty extraordinary.
00:23:58.400 You ought to see some of the videos.
00:23:59.520 Watch it.
00:24:01.060 Natalie G. Winters. 0.95
00:24:03.560 Girl, what in the hell have you done?
00:24:07.320 In all the years that you've been putting up great research and amazing stories 0.94
00:24:11.540 and breaking down things and having you investigated to start all of it,
00:24:14.720 I have never had a firestorm from official Washington like we've had after your exosé of, guess what they call the false flags now.
00:24:25.200 Let's go back.
00:24:25.960 I want to hit rewind because I want to go back over this.
00:24:28.100 People are saying, you know, please don't just have that as a passing news story.
00:24:32.740 What's going to be done about it?
00:24:33.740 It's bad enough that journalists, I know you're going to break out the story of the journalists,
00:24:36.660 but what you hit the other day was to the heart, I think, of what people have the problem with who governs us.
00:24:44.720 Can you just go back and tell us what your expose was about and what you found out?
00:24:49.700 Well, I know you're a very busy man, so I'm sorry for blowing up your phone, but I guess
00:24:54.580 for good reason.
00:24:56.640 This story, I think, is sort of the convergence of all of my many years of reporting on PRC
00:25:03.440 influence campaigns.
00:25:04.660 But in this case, it's not people, it's not random journalists, so important, useful 1.00
00:25:09.160 idiots, the propagandist types. 0.99
00:25:11.420 But this is, I think, more nefarious and actually gets to the heart of just straight up selling out the country. 1.00
00:25:17.820 If there's ever been a more proper time to use the word traitor and treason, this is probably it.
00:25:22.920 But a cohort of nearly two dozen former generals, military leaders, including and up to the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and people who are basically just, you know, one or two rungs below him,
00:25:36.720 established a secret back channel with basically the foremost PRC spy front that exists within the
00:25:45.400 United States, not just to get documents, to steal information, to do IP theft, except it's not theft
00:25:53.200 when you have people like this giving it to them, but also the tip of the spear of the sort of
00:25:57.960 propaganda information campaign. That's, of course, the United Front Work Department. That's these
00:26:02.880 pay-for-play China trips that I've been exposing. But this is the fusing, the fusion of that
00:26:08.920 apparatus with straight up the political warfare department of the PLA, flying these generals
00:26:16.980 over to China to participate in these dialogues where they make them feel super special.
00:26:23.520 And what they are hoping for is to basically curate and cultivate these people on their dime,
00:26:28.840 I'll be blunt, to give them access to information that they want so they can better understand
00:26:33.280 United States military plans.
00:26:34.880 It's no coincidence that most of these people are coming from the exact theater of war that
00:26:40.680 the Chinese Communist Party is most interested in, right?
00:26:43.800 That's what would go down in the South China Sea.
00:26:46.460 I also think, Steve, the key point here to emphasize for what I'm sure the defense would
00:26:50.680 be from these total losers is that, oh, it's, you know, cultural exchange.
00:26:55.080 Well, then I would say, you know what, Steve? 0.96
00:26:56.120 we have a serious problem in our military. If these people, after decades of going up against
00:27:01.500 the Chinese Communist Party, think that their political warfare department is something that
00:27:05.880 you can just engage with amicably and like friends, then maybe I understand why we're in
00:27:10.240 such a poor footing against the Chinese Communist Party. But just to set the stage,
00:27:14.100 we can read the names after the break. On one side of the table, you have the most elite expert PRC
00:27:20.800 spies people seeking and historically have turned Americans to sell them documents to give them
00:27:27.020 classified information like out of a spy movie take your pick and on the American side of the
00:27:32.040 table you have a bunch of former people who used to feel important because they used to have high
00:27:37.080 ranking titles and the taxpayer dollar and trust basically showing up like I said I would compare
00:27:43.400 them to prostitutes saying just tell me what the price is and I'll give you what you want whether
00:27:49.060 that's documents and honestly steve it's an affront to begin with you don't sit down with 0.84
00:27:53.740 the chinese communist party let alone their political warfare department ever uh natalie
00:28:00.740 g winters stick to the break you're on the other side
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00:29:37.660 so natalie i just want to make sure i want to be clear to the audience i know this audience
00:29:45.660 has been with us for years to know this but in this political warfare given the um
00:29:52.540 understanding inside the pentagon let me say people are always focused on the chinese communist
00:29:59.080 party the three island chain what we say about the pacific and the defense of taiwan
00:30:04.460 And CENTCOM, as I said, is like the Federal Reserve, CIA, and CENTCOM are the three gravitational forces in D.C.
00:30:14.120 But make no mistake about it.
00:30:16.200 When you're talking to insider, talking to people, they understand the Chinese Communist Party as it is in Iran. 0.98
00:30:22.140 You wouldn't have Iran with the resilience it has and has shown tremendous resilience if it wasn't for the Chinese Communist Party and their junior partners in Pakistan. 0.87
00:30:31.620 please take your number two pencil on that so knowing what the reality is inside the building 0.64
00:30:38.500 natalie g winners understanding how brazen the political warfare because remember an unrestricted
00:30:46.520 warfare what the chinese communist party came to the conclusion is that we never want to fight the
00:30:51.440 foreign devils in kinetic war because the foreign devils know how to line up and just give it and 0.74
00:30:59.200 We don't want to do that. We're not going to do that. 0.99
00:31:00.960 We're going to defeat them in unrestricted warfare and at the top of
00:31:04.020 unrestricted economic warfare, psychological warfare, political warfare.
00:31:09.080 So this is not something people don't know about.
00:31:12.480 They don't talk about a lot on media.
00:31:14.700 They don't want to push it out to the hinterlands,
00:31:16.340 but among the military industrial complex state of Washington,
00:31:22.420 DC and the intelligence community and the surveillance community and the
00:31:26.120 acquisitions community and all the money this is a known thing therefore how possibly what what is
00:31:34.780 the motive of the list of names you're about to give us because these are among this current
00:31:39.640 generation's top flag officers is the motivation power is the motivation money is the motivation
00:31:48.320 hatred of donald trump and maga what is it because do you agree with me this is not a hidden thing
00:31:53.880 the first the you are the first person to have the guts and the courage to call them out by name
00:32:00.100 and that's why they hate it they hate being exposed but still the question gets to be
00:32:04.980 why have they done it man well remember these are the same people who like wouldn't even sit
00:32:12.860 at a table with president trump a lot of these types you know resigned in protest won't even
00:32:17.220 give maga a seat at the table but they'll meet with the chinese communist party for some euphemistic
00:32:22.440 reason that I still don't I still don't even know what the spin would be Steve and I think too
00:32:26.620 political warfare is sure maybe materially distinct from kinetic warfare but it's kind of
00:32:32.360 the prerequisite right they just would prefer to not go kinetic but the point is that you can still
00:32:37.980 going not going kinetic as a means to an end you can still achieve that same end if you literally
00:32:42.880 are able to compromise the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and this is something that
00:32:48.280 goes past President Trump, right? This started way before, and there's been a lot of interesting
00:32:53.840 rebrands of this particular program. It started out as the SONIA initiative, but it really is
00:32:59.520 a systemic calculus that these various united front groups follow here in the United States.
00:33:04.800 And I would caveat all this, Steve, with, yes, none of these names that I'm rattling off for
00:33:09.220 you or this institution or this program, or take the journalists, for example, they were never
00:33:14.140 public by design, right? I like sleuthed these names out, you know, deep in the documents,
00:33:19.900 translating stuff. But this is still quasi registered under FERA, right? Like some of
00:33:26.520 these lobbying groups, the formula there being that various Chinese United Front group that's
00:33:32.620 maybe like three shell iterations away from the Ministry of State Security, probably slap a Hong
00:33:37.880 Kong label on it. So it's a little more palatable. We'll retain some form of DC-based lobbyist,
00:33:44.400 BLJ Worldwide, Wilson Global. Those are some of the top ones, at least for QSEF.
00:33:49.480 And they'll pay them tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. One of the top
00:33:53.780 lobbyists, you want to go full conspiracy here, for QSEF was actually the Podesta Group. They
00:33:58.960 were paying them nearly a million dollars a year. The buried lead there, obviously getting
00:34:04.600 influence over the Center for American Progress, which was the think tank that is basically the
00:34:08.520 ideological underpinning of both the Biden and Obama administrations. But once they get these
00:34:13.900 lobbying firms on the payroll, they kind of short circuit and fast track access into the Washington
00:34:19.180 insider class. And in this case, this one started back, I think the lobbying contract started around
00:34:23.920 2007. The first dialogue was in 2008. And it's really interesting because you can see this
00:34:30.740 dialogue evolve and morph into not just the generals, but sort of this vertical and horizontal
00:34:37.020 integration where you see them then bringing in active generals. At that point, they had the
00:34:43.920 current chairman of the Joint Chiefs meeting with, I believe, the CMC commission leader. They also
00:34:50.300 were meeting with Hillary Clinton, bringing them into the State Department in 2009. But to answer
00:34:55.720 your question about the motivations, which I would say I've heard deafening silence from these people
00:35:01.580 on this story. And it's not like, I don't know, no one other than the literal Secretary of War,
00:35:06.280 Pete Hegseth, literally quote tweeted my story and shared it. So I know all these people have
00:35:10.060 seen it. I'm sure they're getting hounded in the comments. But I think the best example of why
00:35:15.040 these people do these things is none other than someone who I hope when this audience thinks of
00:35:20.100 what a trader is, you think of Admiral William Bill Owens, someone who basically was the U.S.
00:35:26.800 originator of this dialogue since, like I said, 2008. And after helping to set this up, really
00:35:32.860 spearhead that vertical and horizontal integration of this whole program, became a consultant and
00:35:39.620 advisor for Huawei. Talk about infiltrating this country in a non-kinetic way. Okay, I guess it's
00:35:46.600 technical infiltration that of course is the ccp telecom company that is both a spy front also a
00:35:51.960 national security threat that was of course later blacklisted by the trump administration but he was
00:35:56.700 actively lobbying for them trying to get sprint to use their products and embed them in the united
00:36:03.200 states then went on to literally complain in like congressional testimony writing op-eds saying and i
00:36:09.500 quote i object to the way huawei was treated in the united states because it's unfair but later he
00:36:15.400 went on to write an op-ed titled, quote, America must start treating China as a friend. And now he
00:36:21.040 and one other participant in this dialogue, a woman who was just sort of a supporting role,
00:36:26.560 they have an advisory group called Red Bison Advisory, where they help Chinese companies get
00:36:31.800 a foothold in the United States. So when you really start pulling the threads to this, and by
00:36:36.940 the way, that's only public because he had to register with Bera for that. And he literally
00:36:41.340 is dumb enough to write op-eds that are so glaringly, I mean, basically coming from the 0.99
00:36:46.300 PRC internal or international department. But all of these other people, I think, warrant 0.99
00:36:51.420 investigation into. This is why I've been beating the drum for the DOJ, not just to go after these
00:36:57.020 individuals, but to investigate all of the journalists, particularly the lobbyists who
00:37:01.480 worked with QSEF. But Steve, this goes so much deeper too. Concurrently, you have the same groups
00:37:07.380 that make up the backbone. So here you have QCEF working in conjunction with the actual political
00:37:12.400 worker department of the PLA, but you also have QCEF working with a similar organization, which
00:37:17.740 is CPA, FFC, and Bill Gates, because of course, but they have the farmland spinoff of this. So
00:37:25.700 they're going after the mayors, the local agriculture officials, getting them to write
00:37:29.480 the op-eds, push the papers, and push the collaboration, saying that China should own
00:37:33.500 farmland in the United States. And Steve, I would also add one other layer to this. I'm aware this
00:37:38.440 is all over the place, but there's so much to distill here. Part of it is the actual like boots
00:37:43.040 on the ground compromise. I mean, as someone who follows PRC infiltration, it is very often that
00:37:48.460 you see a new DOJ indictment about someone who used to have some position at some government
00:37:53.160 agency. Sometimes it's literally just because they were DMed on LinkedIn, giving over classified
00:37:57.860 documents to the Chinese. In some cases, it's for like $10,000. There's like a ton of active cases 0.74
00:38:04.020 ongoing right now. There was one just a few months ago at the highest levels of the Pentagon,
00:38:08.520 selling and turning over documents. But it's also symbolic for the Chinese, right? Even President 0.59
00:38:14.580 Trump going over to China, that is such a symbolic win for them. I forget the exact year because it
00:38:19.360 was slightly distinct from this program, but Tung Chi Hua, who is the chairman of QCEF, the group
00:38:25.160 that is responsible for all of this pay for play stuff. And it's just a front for the Chinese 0.98
00:38:29.300 communist party. Like there's no way around it. I'm not being anything other than truthful here. 0.96
00:38:33.540 This guy, it's basically like inviting Xi Jinping's, you know, global international propaganda
00:38:37.660 spokesperson. They actually invited him, believe it or not, to West Point. And he gave a speech
00:38:43.060 there. And you can see pictures of him talking there. A lot of professors at the NDU and even
00:38:50.940 some at West Point have co-sponsored and co-authored papers with QSEF. And part of it is a symbolic
00:38:58.360 victory for the Chinese. But I think you also have to understand, and frankly, Steve, I think it's
00:39:02.640 why we get so maligned as crazy China hawks here on this program. Yeah, if you drink the Kool-Aid
00:39:08.520 that the PRC, International Propaganda Department, is giving you that collaboration with China is
00:39:13.700 great, then yeah, you're probably going to think I'm crazy. But if you actually see China for what
00:39:18.140 it is, which you gave me that worldview, it's true, read the Chinese Communist Party's own
00:39:22.640 writings, you understand that collaboration is not mutually beneficial. And by the way,
00:39:27.200 collaboration is a pipe dream. You can't collaborate with your existential threat.
00:39:31.340 And case in point, Steve, here's the other thing too. If you want to make the argument that
00:39:37.240 dialogues like these are essential for preserving peace between the United States and China,
00:39:43.280 um look at the footing of the chinese communist party right now what was it just about a month
00:39:48.840 ago they're publishing their first white paper ever where they're literally declaring that they 0.76
00:39:53.080 are in charge of the new world order look at how aggressive they've become in taiwan have you seen
00:39:58.500 any of these generals any of these people go on mainstream television sign some letter saying hey
00:40:03.900 maybe what the chinese communist party's doing here because of this inside information that i
00:40:07.520 have because i'm so close with them maybe let's use that for good for the national security of
00:40:12.120 the United States of America. No, they're buying their silence. That's the point. So there's so
00:40:18.440 many layers to all of this. I would encourage the Pentagon to investigate these people. I'd
00:40:23.300 encourage DOJ to look at what materials were handed over. I would truly bet my journalistic
00:40:28.060 career that if you really go after these people, you will get a lot of indictments. Same with the
00:40:33.520 journalists, though I don't know exactly what that charge would be. This is probably more clear
00:40:37.600 espionage i i want everybody to go to the substack and over the week we're having back next week to
00:40:43.900 go through names why did the secretary of war given everything he's got going on why did pete
00:40:49.680 hexeth retweet you couldn't have been more blistering in naming names why did pete hexeth
00:40:56.180 the secretary of war retweet your hit here on the show the other day and your substack
00:41:00.480 i think this story confirms everything that this audience and this movement has known for a very
00:41:07.580 long time. It's just not so often that you see it in your face. And most importantly, Steve,
00:41:13.600 which I think is with this audience and maybe why the Harry Enten polling is going the way it's
00:41:17.900 going. We want action. We want names from the administration, vague pronouns and modify. You
00:41:24.660 know, I just says I have an issue with they them pronouns. I have an issue with President Trump
00:41:28.860 and John Solomon, all them using they them to describe people where their identities are there.
00:41:33.640 you just got to reveal him. And you know what? You got to indict him too, because there's a lot
00:41:38.000 there, or at least put him through discovery. You can read this article. I found yet another
00:41:43.080 pay-for-play junket about 54 more names of journalists who are getting briefed by
00:41:48.260 the CCP's International Propaganda Department, which you'll have to read. I will put it out on
00:41:53.440 Monday if I'm still alive. But in the meantime, it really means a lot if you can subscribe. It's
00:41:58.640 free you can go to nataliegwinters.substack.com i'm beating hunter biden on the charts of popular
00:42:04.160 sub stacks and i would like to keep it that way so if you can subscribe it helps me with that
00:42:08.740 crusade and to keep calling out these people so thank you steve for having me on and these people
00:42:13.640 should be indicted i want everybody if we can put it i want everybody it's free the sub stack and
00:42:19.800 there's not a better investigative reporter in all the country and this latest one the journalists
00:42:25.660 are are bad enough but we've understood that they're the enemy of the people what is shocking
00:42:31.260 is that some of the highest levels of the um uniformed services people we never thought
00:42:38.900 would turn their back on the country are actually uh in business with the chinese communist party
00:42:44.720 natalie g wonders it took you to do it thank you very much ma'am thank you
00:42:49.780 i'm trying to get uh captain finnell captain finnell he and brad thayer wrote a book a couple
00:42:58.020 years ago there was an indictment you know frank gaffney wrote the book the indictment then they
00:43:01.700 came out about how the elites in this country had turned on the people about the chinese
00:43:06.960 communist party it is the existential threat that faces us on one level the other is artificial
00:43:16.340 intelligence the much of the saturday show is going to be on ai hurtling towards the singularity
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00:47:16.920 has happened to me many times in my career right i write something and i'm kind of naive i just think
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00:47:46.940 pushing that for decades and getting away with it for decades. And then I kind of stumble into it
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00:48:01.860 And I think that that's what happened with the Bonhoeffer book.
00:48:05.320 And it's what happened with the book on the revolution.
00:48:06.720 There has been an industry, a secular industry, mostly the academy and, you know, not just
00:48:14.900 universities, but also the media that they have put forward a lie.
00:48:19.340 They put forward a secular view of reality.
00:48:23.260 They say, okay, God doesn't exist.
00:48:25.360 And so, you know, life evolves out of nothing by accident.
00:48:29.600 You don't need a God to create life.
00:48:31.560 You're not made in the image of God.
00:48:33.880 Forget about God.
00:48:35.000 We're just going to pretend that God doesn't exist.
00:48:36.960 And we're going to create this reality that every good thing that you like can come without
00:48:40.960 God, including liberty, the United States of America, our founding, the idea of self-government.
00:48:47.980 All that stuff just happens.
00:48:49.340 you get it from French atheist philosophy, you don't need God. Well, that's not true. And
00:48:56.760 when I said I want to write a book on the American Revolution, I wasn't setting out to write a book
00:49:01.820 about God and the founding. I wanted to just, as you know, because you read the book, just tell
00:49:06.780 the story, the beautiful stories of the larger epic story of the birth of America. And in the
00:49:14.440 course of doing my research, I was over and over and over astonished at the centrality not just of
00:49:21.880 God, but of people consciously, explicitly trying to do the will of God, trying to create a government
00:49:27.860 that really is a biblical form of government. How does that work? Well, it's like going back
00:49:34.660 to the Sinai Covenant. We come out from under Pharaoh and out of Egypt, and we look directly
00:49:39.760 to God as our king. All of that stuff amazed me. And so my book, as you know, is not about that,
00:49:46.640 but it's all through the stories. If you read the stories accurately and you don't hide this
00:49:52.480 kind of stuff, like PBS and Ken Burns hides it, and like a lot of these academics hide it,
00:49:57.620 it's everywhere. And I think for about 200 years, most Americans knew this. They knew that the
00:50:02.900 Great Awakening led to, you know, preparing the ground for people to govern themselves,
00:50:09.120 prepared the ground for the Declaration of Independence. People knew this for about 200
00:50:12.640 years, but in our lifetime, people have been secularizing everything, have been just trying
00:50:17.540 to shove it away. And I kind of stumbled into that. And so I think there's a lot of anger on
00:50:24.720 the left. I'm guessing this is why Barnes & Noble will not put these books in the front of the
00:50:29.740 stores or hiding them in the religion section or something like that. This is not a religion book.
00:50:34.160 It's an American history book, but I really think that part of the larger story is that we're at a moment in our history where we have to rediscover these truths, that most Americans have to learn or have to be reminded, listen, you do not get liberty and equality and flourishing without God.
00:50:53.500 The idea of the free market, all of this stuff, the idea of respecting people with whom you disagree, all of this stuff comes out of the Bible.
00:51:01.480 It doesn't come out of the Koran.
00:51:02.880 It doesn't come out of French philosophy and atheistic philosophy.
00:51:06.240 You don't get it from Marxism or socialism.
00:51:09.020 And I think that, you know, that is honestly, in this day and age, this is big news.
00:51:15.400 It didn't used to be big news.
00:51:16.840 You know, we put in God, in God we trust on our coinage during under Eisenhower.
00:51:21.820 Most of America still got this memo, but something happened, as we know, from the 60s and onward, where we tried to shove God out and tradition and all these values just pushed away.
00:51:31.820 So suddenly it becomes big news.
00:51:33.840 We got about 45 seconds.
00:51:36.360 Where do they get the book and where do they find out where you're next so they can meet you in person and ask you a few questions?
00:51:43.880 Well, if my flight takes off, I'll be in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina tomorrow and on Sunday.
00:51:51.820 I would order the book from Amazon at this point.
00:51:53.680 The price is pretty low and you can get it tomorrow
00:51:55.660 or you can start reading the Kindle version today.
00:51:58.040 But usually Amazon is the best.
00:52:00.280 My website is ericmetaxas.com.
00:52:03.520 I ask people to sign up
00:52:04.620 because we've got all kinds of updates, ericmetaxas.com.
00:52:07.280 And obviously I'm on Instagram and on X.
00:52:11.020 And I hope people will order the book
00:52:13.240 and start reading it as soon as possible
00:52:14.760 because we're way behind in terms of knowing
00:52:16.980 what we need to know to save the world.
00:52:18.640 Amen.
00:52:18.860 Metaxas, we're going to see you tomorrow
00:52:22.400 Good trip to South Carolina
00:52:24.540 Myrtle Beach doesn't get any better than that
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00:52:28.000 Eric Metaxas, the book is Revolution
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