Bannon's War Room - August 13, 2026


Episode 5586: Islamic Invasion Of America

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00:00:00 racism is completely absurd but it's also completely trumpian like mike lindell he
00:00:06 believes any vote against him is a rigged one but trump is the president of the united states and he
00:00:12 is already pushing the envelope during tuesday's balloting in minneapolis a city that is still
00:00:18 reeling from trump's ice raids federal election observers tried to talk their way into at least
00:00:23 at least one polling place.
00:00:27 Jacob Mollis voted inside Powderhorn Recreation Center
00:00:30 minutes before federal observers arrived.
00:00:33 Perfect, perfect.
00:00:35 An election judge came out to confirm who they were
00:00:37 and make sure they stayed 100 feet from the building.
00:00:40 Hennepin and Ramsey counties denied federal observers
00:00:43 inside polling places, which is within the county's rights,
00:00:46 so they had to be 100 feet outside.
00:00:49 Do you have signage for where 100 feet is?
00:00:52 I have it. Do you want me to go?
00:00:53 Good on her. And that could be just the beginning.
00:01:00 This week, newly confirmed attorney general and former Trump criminal defense lawyer Todd Blanche said the next federal election observers could be armed ICE agents.
00:01:10 Now, when it comes to ICE officers, you recently expressed some support to deploy them to polling locations, armed federal officers.
00:01:18 Now, how do you reconcile that with, obviously, the federal law that prohibits federal law enforcement to be armed at these locations?
00:01:24 If you're here illegally, you are not allowed to vote.
00:01:27 So I also am not sure of the uproar of the risk of having a Border Patrol or an ICE agent at a polling location or looking into whether somebody is voting that shouldn't be. 0.93
00:01:37 If you are here illegally, you cannot vote.
00:01:40 And so what's the risk?
00:01:43 The risk is voter intimidation, Tom Blanche.
00:01:46 and it is all happening because Donald Trump wants it to happen.
00:01:51 How prepared, when we talk about the federal overreach of them just showing up at places like this,
00:01:56 are other states for this?
00:01:57 Because Mr. Baxter knew what to do.
00:01:58 That polling place worker knew what to do.
00:02:00 Are you confident that election workers, administrators throughout the country understand
00:02:04 that they don't have to participate in this?
00:02:07 So, look, this is where, you know, I depart from some of the happy talk that you sometimes get.
00:02:12 You know, there there is a tendency for everyone to want to say, well, don't worry, the poll workers will take care of it.
00:02:18 Well, here's two problems for you. The first is that it's a lot to ask poll workers to stand up to the federal government.
00:02:23 It's one thing if it's a bunch of guys in polo shirts like that, you know, who are jokers looking to, you know, maybe cause a little bit of a disruption, but but otherwise fine.
00:02:31 But let's imagine it's not that let's imagine it's ICE agents with guns. Right.
00:02:35 Let's imagine it is it is people with much more aggressive tactics. Right. It's a lot to put on the poll workers.
00:02:41 But here's the second problem, and I need everyone to pay attention to this.
00:02:45 There are a lot of really good election officials, but Tina Peters was an election official.
00:02:51 Republicans have been putting in key positions in key states and counties around this country election deniers.
00:02:59 The election deniers are not just running for statewide offices.
00:03:01 They're not just running for secretary of state.
00:03:03 They're running or being placed in these local election officials as well.
00:03:07 So do I think that in Minneapolis we are in good shape?
00:03:10 Yes. But what happens when you are in a state like Texas or in a state like Florida, where, you know, the Republican Party sort of runs the state government, but also has infiltrated at a MAGA level into a lot of these local county positions?
00:03:25 And that is where I worry that it isn't going to just be election officials standing up to the federal government. Remember, I mentioned we have won 21 cases. Department of Justice sued 30 states.
00:03:37 There were 20 states that turned it over voluntarily. And those are the places I am in some ways more worried.
00:03:42 Yeah, that is terrifying. And then you have candidates like Mike Lindell, who, you know, it is it is bonkers.
00:03:48 They're coming at this, Mark, from all all directions.
00:03:51 And today, the Trump administration lawyers, they filed this request asking the Supreme Court to lift a second injunction against this executive order that was targeting vote by mail.
00:04:00 What can you explain to us what the outlook is there? What are the stakes for voters in this case?
00:04:03 Yeah. So Donald Trump put in place an executive order, tried to put in place an executive order last year to take over voting.
00:04:12 We sued. Others sued. We won. And that was blocked.
00:04:14 Then this year he put it forward in other executive order.
00:04:18 And in some ways it's much more audacious because what it seeks to do is to commandeer the U.S. Postal Service to require states to provide that voter data that we're beating them in court on when they're trying to go to the states.
00:04:29 try to get the state staff to turn it over to the Postal Service, or else the Postal Service,
00:04:34 wait for it, won't deliver you a mail-in ballot. So that has now been challenged in court.
00:04:39 And the first of those cases to get to the Supreme Court was a case brought by Democratic
00:04:44 attorneys general. And they wanted the trial court. They wanted the Court of Appeals. And
00:04:48 the administration is asking the Supreme Court to set that aside. We are all waiting now to hear
00:04:53 what the Supreme Court says. But here is my message. If you look at what the Trump administration is
00:04:58 saying they are not saying that the Supreme Court should rule their way because Donald Trump was
00:05:02 right. They are not saying that the Supreme Court should rule their way because this was
00:05:05 constitutional. Oh, no, no. They're arguing it's not right. That, you know, like maybe the Postal
00:05:11 Service will just tell to Donald Trump, no, we're not going to do what you want. Maybe Todd Blanche
00:05:16 will say, oh, you know what, Mr. President, on this voting thing, we're not going along with you.
00:05:20 Maybe Mark Wayne Mullins at DHS will say, ah, I don't care what the executive order is. I'm going
00:05:25 to do the right thing by the American people. And so because of that possibility, the Department
00:05:30 of Justice is telling the Supreme Court, you know what, Your Honor, there's nothing to rule on yet.
00:05:34 Are no heroes. There's proud MAGA and scared MAGA. And they all are MAGA in the end. And so
00:05:39 they will all try to subvert the outcome of free and fair elections. They are all on board with
00:05:44 what Donald Trump is saying and lying about every single day. And we cannot give any of them the
00:05:50 benefit of the doubt. New Fox News poll shows the U.S. Senate race in Maine is competitive,
00:05:56 even after a major change on the Democratic side, right? Democrats are doing five points better
00:06:02 this month with Jackson. Troy Jackson. With Graham Platt. Who knew? Troy Jackson, who replaced
00:06:08 Graham Plattner in July, leads Republican Senator Susan Collins by two points within the poll's
00:06:14 margin of error. Other recent Fox News polling has shown Democrats leading in several key
00:06:20 Senate races in Georgia. Senator John Ossoff leads Republican Congressman Mike Collins
00:06:25 by 13 points. In North Carolina, former Governor Roy Cooper is ahead of Michael Watley by nine
00:06:32 points. In Ohio, former Senator Sherrod Brown leaves Senator John Husted by eight points.
00:06:39 In Iowa, State Representative Josh Turek is ahead of Congresswoman Ashley Hinson by four points.
00:06:47 And in Texas, State Representative James Tallarico leads Attorney General Ken Paxton by three points.
00:06:56 And then Troy Jackson might do, of course.
00:06:58 And you never know how things are going to go.
00:07:00 There's also another race out there in Alaska where you have a very strong Democratic candidate there
00:07:06 that may be far more competitive than Alaska usually is.
00:07:10 But again, it's early.
00:07:12 I always say it's early until after all the votes have been counted.
00:07:14 And then you can actually say, but nobody knows how this is going to break.
00:07:18 Republicans have a massive advantage financially going into the fall.
00:07:22 We'll see, though, if that makes any difference or not,
00:07:26 because right now things certainly look like they're trending democratically.
00:07:29 Some of those other races, John, what jumps out to you in that poll?
00:07:32 I mean, certainly, again, one poll, polling has been bad.
00:07:35 But those are very good numbers for Democrats right now.
00:07:38 And I think two states that just jumped out at me were ones that have sort of flown under the radar a little bit.
00:07:43 Ohio and Iowa.
00:07:45 These are two states that, you know, 12, 16 years ago were the definition of battlegrounds.
00:07:51 You know, Joe, but they've really trended red in recent cycles.
00:07:55 Trump has won them handily, particularly Ohio.
00:07:58 Some Democrats thought like, well, we can't even play there anymore.
00:08:00 But there is one Democrat who does win statewide there.
00:08:04 That's Senator Sherrod Brown. He, you know, and he's he lost. But now he's back and up eight again, all the caveats.
00:08:12 But that's that's very interesting. And in Iowa, too, when Democrats had the shot to win back the Senate and the governor's mansion in that state,
00:08:21 another one that really had been going red in recent years. To me, those are huge warning signs for the GOP.
00:08:28 Well, you're right. I mean, I don't trust any polls right now.
00:08:31 you look at these poll numbers, though, the ones that really jump out at me are the two that you
00:08:36 talked about. Ohio seems to be gone. And listen, if anybody can win that race, Democrats have the
00:08:44 candidate that can win that race there in 2026. He's a populist. And Brown, again, has built a
00:08:53 really good rapport with working class people in Ohio. But plus eight, nah, it's not plus eight.
00:09:02 I mean, I think if you look at Ohio and Iowa, if Democrats do happen to win those states because
00:09:11 it's a wave, I'd be surprised if it was outside two points. I mean, those are really those two
00:09:17 states over the past 10 years have turned really red. Thursday, 13, August in the year of your
00:09:25 Lord, 2026. Right there. It is Fox News. Their polling is not the best, but it is Fox News.
00:09:34 And it manifests something the war was talked about for months and months and months. If the
00:09:41 senate does nothing and they treat president trump as a lame duck this is what you're going to get
00:09:49 if they put that uh that graphic up for a moment look at that graphic uh we cut that as we warn
00:09:56 ossoff up 13 in georgia how's that working out for you uh how's that working out for you uh
00:10:03 kemp and the georgia establishment how's that working out for you cooper how's whatley working
00:10:08 out north carolina i think i said a couple of times no name recognition no energy and the
00:10:13 grassroots where he does have name recognition the grassroots hating he's down nine sherrod brown
00:10:19 what's the word they're populist populist vivek the governor's disastrous governor's candidate 0.92
00:10:26 um you know vivek uh heritage americans suck uh ramaswamy uh he's pulling the whole thing down 0.68
00:10:33 Sherrod Brown, a populace up eight. Iowa up four. Tallarico up three. And Texas, Troy Jackson 0.98
00:10:42 up two. Of course, everything we do in the Senate is protect. You got to protect Collins in Maine.
00:10:49 You have to protect Collins. That's why you can't do anything. So how's that working out for you,
00:10:53 Thune? Right here's the disaster. This is what I've said. If you want to save completely a
00:10:59 absolute debacle focus on these house districts because i don't care how much stephen law and
00:11:05 mitch mcconnell and how much the donors have poured money into here if you treat president
00:11:10 trump as a lame duck you don't do anything people are not going to show up there's zero enthusiasm
00:11:15 for any of these candidates except for paxton we're getting to that in a second i've got uh 0.94
00:11:20 todd bensman's going to join us also natalie is going to be with us this afternoon the five 0.73
00:11:26 o'clock hour natalie's got all kind of breaking stories including she's turned her now investigative
00:11:30 eyes and apparatus onto this situation with the out of control uh marxist jihadist and we focus
00:11:39 on the jihadist in the five o'clock hour to go through all these disastrous uh moves by uh these 0.86
00:11:46 radical muslims in this country to take political power and of course the radical left goading him 0.70
00:11:52 on in the republican party being unable to stop them daily mail it's a big story up today natalie
00:11:57 kind of broke it yesterday in research she was doing about uh i don't know foot washing in in
00:12:02 dallas fort worth airport a uh setting aside a special a little side side off a side uh deal
00:12:10 for muslims to make sure i guess their feet are clean some sort of religious ceremony before they
00:12:16 get on planes uh we're going to go into that in detail and also the radicalness of the candidate
00:12:22 in michigan but you notice michigan ain't up there i mean peter's maybe uh you know the peter's
00:12:29 replacement with mike rogers and abdul could be the race that saves it but as of now by fox news
00:12:36 by fox news down big in six senate seats and we warned about this and all the money in the world
00:12:43 They sit back and say, oh, well, we have a billion dollars.
00:12:46 We raised some donors.
00:12:47 It's the donors' policies that are turning people off.
00:12:52 Let's get back to basics.
00:12:53 Let's get back to populist nationalism.
00:12:56 Let's get back to populist economic policies, conservative social policies, and nationalistic foreign policy, national security policy, and, wait for it, economic nationalism.
00:13:08 If you do this, you're not going to have those poll numbers.
00:13:11 and guess what you don't have to spend a billion dollars trying to convince people because you
00:13:14 ain't going to convince them people are smart enough to understand this is why the uh lower
00:13:20 propensity trump voters that don't normally vote in midterms they're not going to show up
00:13:25 they're certainly not going to show up in these senate races and this is a disgrace
00:13:30 the top two put that can you put that chart back up there people don't need to see me
00:13:36 yelling and screaming can we get my chart that okay i got my chart the first two are from my
00:13:43 beloved south 13 points you wonder why they're talking about ossoff as a presidential candidate
00:13:50 to replace uh newsom he's up 13 points in a fox poll against kemp's uh this is what the uh this 0.96
00:14:00 is what the rhinos get you a 13 point ass kicking not going to end up like this but how how obscene
00:14:10 is that north carolina good on you we got a rnc chair that nobody knows the people know 0.96
00:14:18 knowing don't like him down nine to cooper another total phony okay todd bensman's with us uh tyler
00:14:25 O'Neill on the arrest yesterday of the Southern Poverty Law Center, I think CFO. We've got Dr.
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00:17:26 so so if you lose i just go back it's fox news folks fox news polls they're not the best pollsters
00:17:35 but these are outside margin if you lose maine north carolina and ohio right as states we have
00:17:42 then you're down to the that if you just lose those you hold everything else uh the vice
00:17:47 president breaks the tie but that makes iowa kansas alaska nebraska and texas all important
00:17:56 uh bensman you've got a great piece up in uh and it people have to connect dots here but this is
00:18:04 what we do at the war room and thank god there's the federalists and people like todd bensman and
00:18:08 heritage all that todd you spent years you've dedicated your professional life either at texas
00:18:13 with law enforcement the federal government or as an independent analyst and uh and and uh
00:18:19 expert subject matter expert about the southern border about the invasion about migrants asylum
00:18:27 policy uh you wrote you wrote the definitive book on jihadists coming across the border
00:18:32 uh you've written uh that amazing book with that awesome cover about biden's policy you really
00:18:38 changed the direction of the nation of getting people awakened to this uh and i think this is
00:18:42 a brilliant piece and nobody's talking about it and we have to talk about it they talk about
00:18:47 Tallarico is kind of a twerp and, you know, he's weird and he's like from another planet and all
00:18:52 that. Yes, that's all true. And that's going to play big in Texas. But most importantly, 0.72
00:18:58 he is an absolute radical. People have to understand what he's going to be pushing and
00:19:03 voting for. And your piece in the Sean Davis's Federalist Today lays it out. Talk to me about
00:19:09 the invasion of our southern border, the 20 million illegal aliens we have here on Biden's
00:19:15 watch and how Tallarico is really an apostle of that, sir. Under the Biden administration,
00:19:22 we had 10 plus million people hit that border because they allowed them in. They were just 0.98
00:19:32 allowing them in to make asylum claims. Trump shut the whole thing down in one day by denying
00:19:39 them the opportunity to abuse the asylum system. That's the basic thing. And then expelling
00:19:45 everybody. So the border is quieter than it's ever been in recorded history, because no asylum
00:19:54 and everybody gets expelled that we can lay hands on. Tallarico comes in with this weird idea. I
00:20:03 call it weird because it's so contradictory on its face. He says, we're going to put a welcome mat
00:20:09 out, and we're going to lock the door. Welcome, Matt, lock door. So I decided to dig into what
00:20:17 does he mean by that, and there's plenty of material out there that he provides the public
00:20:22 with what he means. He wants to bring back asylum claims at the border. That is an absolute
00:20:30 guaranteed mad rush on the border. The second you start doing that, you invite the entire world
00:20:38 over that border. That's what the Biden administration did. So he says the locked
00:20:45 door, if you dig down, you drill in, but his locked door, what he means by that is we're going to very
00:20:51 quickly do a fast track asylum determination on everybody that we let in. But there's no mention
00:21:01 at all glaring gap about deporting them if they're denied. And in fact, his policy calls
00:21:10 for pretty much letting everybody in and never deporting anybody, leaving alone anybody who's
00:21:19 not a hardened convicted criminal or something, which is like most of the people that are coming
00:21:24 across, which is basically an open border. It's Biden's open border. And I found that
00:21:31 in his speeches, he's using the same terminology that the Mayorkas, DHS used to use, that Biden
00:21:39 used to use, safe, orderly asylum processes, the safe, orderly, and humane. I don't know how many
00:21:46 times I brought that up on the war room to the posse during those four years, but it was nonstop.
00:21:54 That was their stock and trade. We're going to have safe, orderly processing at the border, which basically means everybody gets in. We're going to have more border patrol to just process everybody in.
00:22:07 And so when you really dig down into what he means by locked door, he doesn't provide for any deportation about people who were denied asylum, and that's an open border.
00:22:20 And that's my whole point here is that Tallarico and people like him on the far left are using tough sounding terminology in order to lure in maybe Trump defectors, Trump voter defectors and independents that might swing the election here in Texas.
00:22:42 I'm in Austin. Just enough. He's looking for independence. Look, it's a midterm election.
00:22:48 These are lower propensity voters.
00:22:50 They're lower information. 0.99
00:22:51 Doesn't mean they're dumber. 0.98
00:22:52 It's just that politics is not a part of their life, right? 0.76
00:22:55 So this is the type of propaganda he's trying to sound just like Mayorkas, safe or at least humane. 0.58
00:23:02 It's open borders. 0.99
00:23:04 He's got to welcome that out.
00:23:05 And this is what, you know, Senator, Lieutenant General Paxton, the attorney general, has got to start ripping on this.
00:23:14 They got to expose Tallarico for what he really is.
00:23:17 he goes back to what's helped destroy texas this open borders policy todd and i think that there's
00:23:22 and there's others the situation michigan is the exact same you notice michigan's not on that chart
00:23:27 they're just starting to pull it now uh i'm hearing pretty good news out of it not great news but
00:23:32 pretty good news but people got to start putting like the jihadist up in michigan on notice they
00:23:38 we have to field strip these people in front of of the nation and particularly for other states
00:23:43 You've got to start telling exactly how they are because they've got all the happy talk to kind of divert, particularly people that just don't follow politics that closely, Todd Bensman.
00:23:53 Right. And, you know, he's running for Senate, U.S. Senate.
00:23:57 He's not the president. He won't have charge for two years of that policy.
00:24:03 But here's why it matters.
00:24:05 If he wins, he's the polls are showing him a little bit ahead of Paxton at the moment.
00:24:10 We saw what happened, what polls actually mean in Wisconsin in the governor's race with Han just recently.
00:24:19 But he is promising that because he's from Texas, his family's from Laredo.
00:24:27 He's saying, I should lead the charge on border policy.
00:24:33 I should be the one because I'm from Texas.
00:24:36 I should be the guy.
00:24:37 And so if that's the case, raising the question about what does he really mean by locked door welcome mat is a completely fair question to deconstruct.
00:24:50 It's absurd.
00:24:52 Not just a fair question. 1.00
00:24:53 You've got to go rip this guy's face off. 0.99
00:24:55 We're not looking for fair questions. 0.99
00:24:57 Fair questions.
00:24:58 This is partisan politics, baby.
00:25:00 You've got to get into it because this guy's an open borders guy.
00:25:02 we got listen you didn't get 10 to 12 to 13 to 20 million uh asylum seekers migrants illegal aliens
00:25:09 in the country that's going to tear the country apart once we start doing what has to be done
00:25:15 mass deportations nobody wants to talk about that oh because they're going to say something bad on
00:25:20 msmc they're going to put a camera in somebody's face and somebody's going to say wow why are we
00:25:24 doing that it's got to be done or you're not having you don't have a nation you do not have
00:25:29 a nation if we don't do this and that's why it starts the border what president trump has done
00:25:33 i want to go back for allusion this is what todd todd blanche was saying he says i don't understand
00:25:39 why people are upset of course we're going to have ice agents because people that are non-citizens
00:25:44 can't vote and of course nbc comes back and says well that's intimidation why isn't it it's
00:25:49 intimidation it should be intimidating to non-citizens yes we want it to be intimidating
00:25:54 to non-citizens you should not go to a polling place the democratic model todd as you know 1.00
00:25:59 is to flood the zone with people that are not eligible to vote to vote and this is why they 1.00
00:26:06 can scream all they want and cry they want throw their toys out of the pram but this is going to
00:26:10 happen uh todd your thoughts on ice agents at polling places i think ice agents belong at
00:26:18 polling places. They can go anywhere they want. That's their job. Their job is to find illegal
00:26:24 aliens wherever they are. That's their job. We hired them to do that, and the law says that they 1.00
00:26:30 have to do that. But you're right. Listen, if 278,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in
00:26:41 just four states that we know of, that means, I mean, there's millions probably who are at least
00:26:47 registered to vote. That is not just a problem. That is a catastrophe because elections in this
00:26:58 country these days are decided by a few thousand votes. I mean, look what happened in Michigan. I
00:27:05 mean, the guy won the primary by like 1% or something. Who knows how many non-citizens 0.99
00:27:11 voted in that thing. It might have been enough. And all of our elections are that close. So 0.97
00:27:18 there needs to be a big crackdown on people who are registered. First of all, just to register, 0.99
00:27:27 get rid of the automatic license, driver's license application registration function
00:27:34 in all these blue states. All be done. Right. Todd, we got to bounce. Where do people go to
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00:29:44 A case against the former chief financial officer of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:29:50 Can you please speak a little bit about what you've learned as part of that investigation?
00:29:53 and if we should expect more charges?
00:29:57 So I'm not, so yes, today, my understanding is today there was an arrest made
00:30:01 and there is a new indictment that includes the former CFO of SPLC.
00:30:08 I don't have any comments about whether, we said from the beginning,
00:30:11 everybody, not just me, but anybody who's talked about this case,
00:30:14 like virtually every criminal case, the fact that an indictment is returned doesn't end the investigation.
00:30:21 It's just part of the investigation in most cases, which is certainly true in this case.
00:30:25 I think as alleged in the indictment, this individual participated in the scheme as alleged.
00:30:32 I believe she was part of the effort to open bank accounts and completely fictitious companies' names
00:30:37 and make payments to individuals for reasons that were not accurate as described.
00:30:46 But I don't have, I think the indictment was unsealed this morning.
00:30:51 I don't have, or I believe it was unsealed this morning.
00:30:52 I think the arrest was this morning.
00:30:54 I don't have anything to say beyond that,
00:30:56 except to say that this is exactly what we said would happen in a case like this,
00:30:59 which is that our investigators and the U.S. attorneys
00:31:02 and the agents working the case can keep on working it
00:31:05 even after the initial indictment.
00:31:09 Okay, Tyler O'Neill joins us.
00:31:11 He wrote the definitive book on Southern Poverty Law Center a couple of years ago.
00:31:14 He's in the process of updating it.
00:31:16 He's also read The Daily Signal.
00:31:18 Rob Blewey's great site.
00:31:19 remember we had rob on last week from the uh steelers training camp um tyler the reason i
00:31:25 wanted to have you on this morning we'd love you good on you you this was a called shot you said
00:31:30 this was going to happen you also said hey look they're probably going to start rolling up initially
00:31:35 i guess people at a more at mid-level or junior level looking for big fish later walk us through
00:31:41 what exactly happened yesterday your understanding of it sir yes so yesterday federal officials 0.61
00:31:48 arrested Heidi Bayrick. She is the former CFO of the Southern Poverty Law Center. She is alleged 0.95
00:31:57 in the indictment to have not only been part of the conspiracy to set up this alleged wire fraud
00:32:04 scheme and the bank fraud scheme to lie to banks setting up these shell companies to hide payments
00:32:12 to extremists, to members of groups like the Ku Klux Klan. And Barrick herself allegedly was
00:32:20 involved in a years-long romantic relationship with a neo-Nazi, a member of a neo-Nazi organization
00:32:27 who is clandestinely receiving money from the Southern Poverty Law Center to the tune of $140,000.
00:32:35 Now, this money was paid to this informant, and this informant allegedly was in a relationship
00:32:43 with Byrick. Byrick then goes on to take the money. She shares bank accounts with this alleged
00:32:51 informant and used about, it was about 66% of the couple's finances were received directly from the
00:33:00 Southern Poverty Law Center in the way of this clandestine funding. So it was through one of
00:33:08 these fictitious accounts that Bayrick herself is accused of taking money and using it for her
00:33:15 own purposes in this romantic relationship with a neo-Nazi member. And also the overall scheme
00:33:25 was to essentially fund kkk neo-nazi groups like this to act racist when they're kind of
00:33:34 withering on the vine but to give them fuel so the southern poverty law center can continue to
00:33:39 go out and point to and put it on a danger list charlie kirk and the turning point usa the war
00:33:45 room everything everybody associated with charlie kirk or ourselves as these uh demons uh and uh
00:33:52 and kind of kick up false or phony racism or hate groups, correct?
00:33:59 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
00:34:00 So the main reason why I've been focusing on the SPLC for a long time,
00:34:05 long before I knew that they had been clandestinely funding
00:34:08 these members of the Klan and such,
00:34:11 I had known because they constantly exaggerated hate in America.
00:34:16 And it's exactly as you said, what you had with the SPLC,
00:34:20 you had this system that was set up where they benefited from any sort of extremism they could
00:34:28 point out to that would make them relevant. So when you are establishing yourself as an
00:34:33 organization that monitors hate and America slowly becomes less hateful on your watch,
00:34:40 that is negative for your fundraising. So what the SPLC had to do, they had to find new hate
00:34:47 to go after. And they decided to create a one-two punch. I mean, this was a really brilliant
00:34:53 strategy on their part where they put organizations that disagree with them. These are peaceful
00:34:59 organizations that advocate for policies in the federal government that highlight problems that
00:35:05 they see in the society. Organizations like the Center for Immigration Studies, organizations
00:35:10 like Focus on the Family, like Turning Point USA, as you mentioned, like PragerU. And the SPLC
00:35:17 decided that they would put these groups on a map with chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:35:23 And they say that this map reveals the infrastructure upholding white supremacy
00:35:28 in America. What they do by doing this, it's a very brilliant and very nefarious strategy,
00:35:35 because what they're doing is they're smearing these conservative organizations,
00:35:39 suggesting that they're driven by a hatred that's similar to the Klan, and then by weaponizing
00:35:45 their own history of going after the Klan, which of course, for the record, the Klan is one of the
00:35:50 worst terrorist organizations in American history. And I'm glad that the SPLC was able to sue many of
00:35:57 them into bankruptcy. But now the Klan barely exists. And the main thing here is, and what
00:36:03 this indictment is showing, is that the SPLC is alleged to have propped up the Klan by sending
00:36:10 money for things like buying clan hoods, buying clan robes, reimbursing someone for cross burning
00:36:19 expenses. So this is hate that is allegedly being funded directly by the SPLC in order to keep the
00:36:26 SPLC relevant and shoveled through these shell companies in order to hide the purpose of this
00:36:33 funding so that it doesn't look like the SPLC is propping up the very hate that it claims it
00:36:40 exists to oppose and and to have this list of war room and charlie kirk and turning point all
00:36:47 these groups saying these are hate groups you gotta you know you gotta try to tar them real
00:36:51 america's voice all of it um your theory of the case also this is the cfo and obviously she looks
00:36:58 like she had it's kind of i guess it's bizarre that the informant of i guess one of the hate
00:37:03 groups or whatever is living with the cfo of the southern poverty law center that's for another day
00:37:08 but uh your theory of the case also is that there's really the the big fish board members
00:37:14 others there's a lot of very prominent people in this entire uh far left movement uh do you
00:37:21 believe they targeted kind of mid-level below that they're looking to uh tell her hey lady
00:37:27 you're looking at 20 years in a federal prison so maybe we should have a chat sir yeah i mean
00:37:33 my theory of the case, as you mentioned, they are working on, so this is now the third
00:37:40 indictment. We've had two superseding indictments. And I believe this one is the first one to
00:37:47 directly name an individual by name. And then, of course, she is now arrested. That means that
00:37:53 the fire is on her. If she decides to rat out more people in this alleged scheme, this alleged
00:38:01 fraud scheme and conspiracy, then that means we're going to have more charges. I expect
00:38:07 more arrests, more charges, more to come, because even in these indictments, you have clear statements
00:38:14 from the SPLC CEO at the time, who is later acknowledging to the banks that these accounts
00:38:21 were opened under fraudulent purposes. And when you have a statement like that, I expect at some
00:38:29 point that Margaret Wong is going to have to answer for this. And so what they're doing,
00:38:35 they're starting. And I would say Heidi Bayrick is right in the middle of the organization.
00:38:40 She was middle management and she was the one, let's not forget, who managed the whole hate map 0.99
00:38:47 for years. She's the one who decided to put the radical traditional Catholic groups on the map 0.94
00:38:54 that were then cited by the FBI.
00:38:58 So this person is very central.
00:39:01 And she's an interesting choice
00:39:02 because now she no longer works at the SPLC. 0.99
00:39:06 She has her own organization 1.00
00:39:07 that is pushing things in its own right.
00:39:11 So we're going to have to see.
00:39:13 I think this is only the beginning.
00:39:16 This is the first arrest in this case.
00:39:18 We have other employees who are not mentioned by name
00:39:21 who are in the indictment
00:39:23 who are likely to be indicted directly as the case continues. So more to come. I think we can expect
00:39:31 a lot more fireworks in this case. And there's a real question as to whether the trial actually
00:39:38 happens when it is currently scheduled for October 5th. Watch, she's going to be cutting a deal. 1.00
00:39:46 She doesn't want to go to federal prison. Tyler, where did they get the book? I know you're
00:39:50 updating it. Tell us about the timing of that is. And Daily Signal, where do we get your pieces,
00:39:57 social media coordinates, all of it, sir? Thanks. Yeah, I am glad to announce that I was able to
00:40:03 update the book by my May 20th testimony before Congress. So if you buy Making Hate Pay,
00:40:12 The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center on Amazon today, you will be getting an updated
00:40:16 edition that includes a short recap of everything that happened since I originally published the
00:40:23 book in 2020 and that mentions this indictment and how it ties in to the overall story. But the key
00:40:30 fact here, and this is the main point of the book, is that the SPLC is a morally bankrupt smear
00:40:37 factory that routinely demonizes and defames conservative Christian organizations, putting
00:40:44 them on a map with the Klan. They should not be trusted. I think it is very important that 0.53
00:40:48 corporate America, big tech, government, even Democrats take seriously the fact that this is a
00:40:56 really horrible organization that should not be cited as the authority on anything. You can follow
00:41:01 my work at dailysignal.com and on Axe at Tyler2O'Neal. And I also have a sub stack called the
00:41:09 woke to bus uh tyler thank you so much great reporting look forward to having you back on
00:41:16 you've been all over this case and nailing it as it goes or actually before it goes which is even
00:41:21 better thank you sir appreciate you thanks again for having me and appreciate rob bluey and the
00:41:27 whole team over daily signal great job uh dr jeffrey tucker brownstone so dr tucker i got
00:41:32 two things i want to get this covet thing can we get the tweet up and do a split screen with dr
00:41:37 tucker walk me through this when this published yesterday and then i i actually last night late
00:41:42 last night i watched your your your interview uh walk me through this is this you're telling me
00:41:48 that there's evidence now they slowed down everything uh because um this wild conspiracy
00:41:56 theory the real reason for all this is to delay the onset of natural immunity during the covet
00:42:01 Christ. We've got a minute here. We'll continue on. But is that, should I put my tinfoil hat on?
00:42:07 Or brother, you usually come with the facts. Are you just messing with me on a Thursday?
00:42:13 Steve, you actually know this. You know this if you think about it. You remember the hysteria
00:42:17 that was met with Jay Bhattacharya's study in April and May of 2020 when he showed that
00:42:24 sewer prevalence levels were 10 times what they were saying? So why was there such panic?
00:42:30 The reason for the panic is that they did not want intimacy to arrive before the shot was here.
00:42:37 So the whole purpose was to delay and delay and delay and prolong the pandemic, prolong the suffering, so that the vaccine would get all the credit.
00:42:49 I find this to be shocking and scandals.
00:42:52 And when I've confronted officials who were there at the time, the FDA and NIH and HHS, they've all confirmed it.
00:42:59 They said, yeah, of course, that was the whole point of flattening the curve, was to delay, to keep seroprevalence levels down.
00:43:08 And even now, we have lots of evidence that by the end of 2020, the virus was entirely manageable.
00:43:18 The pandemic conditions were over already.
00:43:22 But they couldn't tell anybody that because they had a product to sell.
00:43:26 Hang on one second.
00:43:28 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:43:30 Your head is about to blow up as Dr. Jeffrey Tucker walks us through it.
00:43:35 Wow.
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00:45:32 dr jeffrey tucker from the brownstone institute joins us i want to put get this tweet back up
00:45:40 so dr tucker take a moment because to get resolution for this and make sure it never
00:45:47 happens again we have to have either indictments and trials or a commission we have to do an
00:45:55 organized effort to put all this out there so people can see exactly what happened and who's
00:46:00 accountable because i know people are coming up to you now and saying of course that's of course
00:46:04 i would just walk through once again the 12 all the efforts by fauci and collins and the entire
00:46:11 deep state apparatus of the health you know the health department of the government all of it
00:46:18 which is just as deep state as the cia and the fbi and uh and and all the intelligence apparatus
00:46:25 in fact maybe actually worse you could argue they conspired understanding they had the crisis that
00:46:33 they wanted uh and they wanted to go back to the to the parlor trick of a vaccine and everything
00:46:40 they told us was to prolong the actual event the pandemic stretch as long as possible so that
00:46:48 eventually you could get the vaccine out there and disseminate it and not just have a traditional
00:46:53 herd immunity is that basically your theory yeah flatten the curve always meant prolong the pain
00:47:00 until the until the inoculation could arrive that's why you couldn't stand six feet uh next
00:47:07 to any closer than six feet next to anybody that's why you couldn't go to concerts that's
00:47:11 why you couldn't go to church that's why they canceled the religious holidays and that's that's
00:47:15 why they kept the the kids out of the school it was to it was it was it was to preserve what's
00:47:21 called the immunological naivety of the population because if if seroprevalence levels had had risen
00:47:27 above 50 or 60 as they probably did by the end of 2020 anyway then there would have been no reason
00:47:34 for the shot, there would have been no demand for the shot, and no purpose for it in the first
00:47:39 place. Whereas they wanted universal injections of everybody, even though the gradient of risk
00:47:45 of this particular virus was overwhelmingly towards the aged and infirm, and everybody else
00:47:50 could experience mild levels of exposure and have an immune upgrade from it. That's what they did
00:47:57 not want to have happen. They wanted to try out their pharmaceutical product. So when I fully
00:48:04 realized this, and also what incredible explanatory power this model has, I mean,
00:48:11 it's actually really obvious once you say it. I began to confront administration officials in
00:48:17 private over this, practically screaming in anger, steam coming out of my ears,
00:48:23 You destroyed the whole of society and economic life and stole half the dollars purchasing power so you could get a product in people's arms?
00:48:32 They said, yeah, of course.
00:48:33 Yeah, everybody knew that at the time.
00:48:35 That was the entire purpose of the pandemic plan was to prevent people from developing protection, natural protection against the virus.
00:48:45 so that we could have the experiment of the artificial protection
00:48:49 through this tryout, this new gene therapy on the population,
00:48:53 which we know now killed probably millions of kids in the womb
00:48:57 on a global basis.
00:49:02 How do you, what is the action item here?
00:49:06 Because we have, as brilliant as this is,
00:49:09 this has to somehow get into some apparatus
00:49:13 that can help us correct this, hold people accountable, put people in jail if necessary,
00:49:19 but make sure it can never happen again.
00:49:21 What is your recommendation for how we go forward in a plan of action to now present
00:49:27 this and bring people in and have them testify?
00:49:31 I don't know if it's Congress, the Senate, if we just go right to the criminal process.
00:49:36 I'm looking for your thoughts on this.
00:49:39 Steve, there has to be a reckoning and it has to be a sweepinging kind of reckoning.
00:49:43 And there has to be absolute transparency and honesty and no more of this weird thing that we have going where everybody is somehow running and hiding or pretending as if they did the best they could with the knowledge they had at the time.
00:49:57 This whole thing needs to stop.
00:49:58 We need to drop everything, I think, drop everything and focus exclusively on this and get a full reckoning for how it is that we abolished the Bill of Rights for two or three years in this country and destroyed so many lives to protect pharmaceutical industries, its profits, and to try out new tricks at censorship.
00:50:20 This is a grotesque period.
00:50:23 And hearings, yes, of course, law enforcement needs to be involved.
00:50:28 Every last document needs to be distributed.
00:50:31 Rand Paul is doing fantastic work.
00:50:33 Now Senator Johnson has Fauci's cell phones, but this is just the beginning.
00:50:37 There is so much more to be known.
00:50:40 We need maximum transparency, and it needs to happen now, and people need to demand it, and the representatives need to get involved.
00:50:49 I sense that we're taking steps in this direction, but we're not there yet.
00:50:55 Baby steps, baby steps.
00:50:57 We've got Dr. Tucker.
00:51:00 If we don't do your remedy to the fullest extent that we can possibly do it, and that means all the way in.
00:51:09 Well, this will clearly with that same apparatus in place and with big pharma as powerful they are, this will happen again, correct?
00:51:16 well steve moderna is already developing a vaccine and testing a vaccine for what's called h5n1 or
00:51:25 the avian bird flu which so far as we know doesn't really reliably move from animals to to humans
00:51:33 why would they be doing that what is going on this is one of something like 13 products they're in
00:51:39 development of why are they developing an avian bird flu vaccine why are they in trials for this
00:51:44 thing? And how do you even conduct a trial for this thing? So my thinking is, how do you make
00:51:50 avian bird flu more transmissible to humans? Gain a function of research, right? So the scam,
00:51:57 we know the way the racket works, and it's still ongoing. Moderna is still getting contracts from
00:52:03 the federal government and still engaged in this research. It definitely will happen again with a
00:52:09 man-made virus, and more mRNA gene-altering shots pushed on the population by force.
00:52:19 It's coming.
00:52:22 Dr. Tucker, if I can impose upon you, I want to hold you to the break.
00:52:26 We are going to go to the White House, but Dr. Tucker's going to come with us.
00:52:30 He had a brilliant analysis off of some research that was done about a month ago
00:52:34 about the purchasing power of the dollar.
00:52:36 Dr. Tucker is an economist.
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