Bannon's War Room - August 12, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1066: US Catholics In Shock As It’s Revealed 82% Of Catholic Bishops’ Revenue Is INVASION-Related Grants


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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.660 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.900 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.160 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.080 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.520 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.260 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.200 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.460 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.860 Mega Media.
00:00:28.760 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.640 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.400 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.720 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:47.960 wednesday 12th of august anno domini 2026 harnwell here at the helm on steve bannon's
00:01:01.160 war room that little corner of the week when you dig in to all the developments that's taken place
00:01:06.060 across the judeo-christian west frank walker i hope you had a great week since uh since we did
00:01:12.940 the show last wednesday yes sir i did nice to see you so we don't have nice to see you too so we um
00:01:19.760 we don't have um jenny holland today she's off skiving here on the italian peninsula so we don't
00:01:27.340 have the the liberal progressive conscience sitting on our shoulders whispering into our ear
00:01:34.820 so it's walker and harnwell today unmediated right um and and you know so we we get to show
00:01:44.400 we we get to to do the the full hardcore show today um and what a great story that we have
00:01:52.020 to start off with this is something a development that exploded this week on social media i found
00:01:59.140 out about this because i'm not particularly that active on x on twitter but i found out about this
00:02:05.620 particular development because every morning i check canon 212 and to see what's new what's
00:02:12.580 happened um in the united states in catholicism and now i saw it there listed amongst in bold
00:02:20.760 in the headlines things i really need to know um and this is a pickup of something that um
00:02:29.120 it's a balance sheet i think uh from the uh the united states catholic bishops conference and it
00:02:35.680 goes to confirm our worst fears right and i remember when steve bannon said something
00:02:42.940 along these lines i think when he was still in the administration 10 years ago he basically
00:02:48.700 was uh he um was criticizing cardinal dolan in um in new york saying basically this guy's just
00:02:58.040 saying these things pro-migrants because the Catholic Church,
00:03:02.940 the American Catholic Church, is dependent on taxpayer dollars. 0.91
00:03:08.640 Hosting the invaders, and of course, Steve, lone voice, prophetic,
00:03:13.820 said that, and everybody in Catholic Inc.
00:03:18.740 sort of rounded on him, calling him anti-Catholic,
00:03:22.460 and all the rest of it.
00:03:24.260 They even called him anti-Catholic, and all the rest of it. 1.00
00:03:28.040 And he was absolutely right. I think the only thing he was wrong on was even in his worst fears. 0.99
00:03:33.500 I don't think he could have realized the figures were anywhere this bad.
00:03:37.200 So 80 percent. OK, folks, 80 percent of the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference income comes from a government budget line,
00:03:50.280 space basically migrants hosting 80 um and i think right you know we have four stories that
00:03:59.880 we're going to talk about this evening because we know we've got to cram in the developments
00:04:06.160 across christianity into a one-hour show four stories one hour a week um but we could basically
00:04:13.840 do the whole show frank walker talking about this single story and we could do this show
00:04:19.020 every day of the week, Monday to Friday, talking about this story.
00:04:22.400 There is nothing more important for faithful Catholics to realise
00:04:27.680 and to see the evidence, black on white, on the balance sheet here,
00:04:32.300 just how far our so-called pastors, our so-called shepherds,
00:04:41.140 have sold out on this issue, and it has corrupted the entire witness,
00:04:47.020 of American Catholicism, not only in America,
00:04:53.440 we just have the statistics here, the figures here
00:04:56.140 for the American church, but believe me,
00:04:57.840 it's the same across the West.
00:05:01.000 Hiling shepherds have sold out to the taxpayer dollar,
00:05:07.260 basically have submitted themselves to,
00:05:10.800 I won't say to government, to the globalist powers
00:05:16.260 powers that secretly govern this world and have decreed that to rebalance the populations from
00:05:25.700 the global south the poor global south to the rich global north it's a simple case of just
00:05:32.500 shove millions of people north of the equator and that redistributes poverty somewhat that's
00:05:39.860 that's the to some totality of their thinking that's what they're doing 0.77
00:05:44.420 And the Catholic Church, the so-called Catholic Church that betrays the Catholic faith 24-7, 365 days a year, is pushing on the West an issue which is an existential threat to the Jewish Christian West, 0.73
00:06:12.980 which is the filling of historic Christendom countries 0.89
00:06:19.360 with exponents, young 20-year-old exponents of Islam. 0.88
00:06:24.680 And that's the reality.
00:06:26.300 So when you see on, for example, on July the 4th,
00:06:31.880 when you're celebrating, when you Americans are celebrating
00:06:34.400 the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence,
00:06:39.300 And you're told repeatedly, because the mainstream media, which doesn't exist to report the truth, but exists to condition you according to the ideas that benefit those powers that secretly run the world.
00:06:58.520 They tell you constantly, you have now the first American pope.
00:07:02.720 When that first American pope goes to Lampedusa on July the 4th 0.83
00:07:08.480 and hits Catholics, practicing Catholics, hard over the head 0.99
00:07:13.400 that they have to accept ever more invaders 0.97
00:07:17.240 because it's the Christian thing to do,
00:07:19.520 because invaders are made in the image and likeness of God.
00:07:22.800 Don't forget that the bottom line here, the American church,
00:07:26.920 probably the most important faction of Catholicism in the world,
00:07:38.200 not in terms of believers, not in terms of financial power,
00:07:44.600 or not solely in those terms, but in terms of this is the American church,
00:07:47.900 America being the most military, powerful, culturally powerful,
00:07:51.380 financially powerful nation ever to exist.
00:07:56.920 When the Pope comes out and says on July the 4th that you have to accept any invaders that choose to come and live your countries because human dignity, the American church, which is extremely important in the Vatican and the worldwide church,
00:08:17.660 and your first American Pope are de facto dependent
00:08:21.480 on the whole charade, Frank Walker,
00:08:26.940 the whole charade continuing, right?
00:08:29.940 This is why on this show, week after week,
00:08:32.980 Wednesday after Wednesday,
00:08:34.540 we say that these people are not owed the bishops,
00:08:39.900 the cardinals, they are not owed obedience
00:08:42.060 because they are usurpers. 0.82
00:08:44.060 the catholic church the vatican is a global human trafficking organization financed by taxpayer
00:08:53.020 dollars under the outer aspect of being a religious organization and that's why they
00:08:59.920 get away with it so much frank walker you had this story upon canon 212 tell us then the details
00:09:05.720 what exactly had broke then this week because as i say it has been ricocheting across
00:09:11.780 social media and twitter particularly well their their 2024 uh budget has been released and you
00:09:20.860 can see that they've gotten 80 percent up all the money that they spend at the usccb the conference
00:09:26.560 of catholic bishops from the government for migration purposes part of a a billion dollar
00:09:32.400 grant and they're not the only uh a church that that accepts this money all uh churches accept
00:09:40.520 this, and also Jewish people accept, Jewish churches accept it, and it really shows you
00:09:47.260 how we're all one, and we all work for the same boss. You know, Francis took away the sense,
00:09:55.900 the idea of being a vicar of Christ formally as his job description, and they're not really,
00:10:03.920 the popes are no longer vicars of Christ, they're, who are they the vicar of? They're the vicar of
00:10:08.780 the world. At this site, Effort News, that's relating this information, they call them
00:10:16.980 migrant contractors with a minor stake in the churches. And really, that is no longer their
00:10:23.660 business model. I mean, for thousands of years, they didn't get tax dollars. You see, they fight
00:10:30.300 for tax dollars, and they say, if you don't give us these tax dollars, it's not religious freedom,
00:10:34.020 it's against us religiously, but we don't. That dirty money corrupts. That means that that's who
00:10:38.620 worked for. The migrant spending has increased 10 times since Obama became president. And now it 0.84
00:10:45.820 shows that 36% of all their expenses, it covers refugee admissions, entry assistance, unaccompanied
00:10:53.600 minors, and Afghan resettlement in 2024 before Trump came back. But I mean, unaccompanied minors,
00:11:00.480 that's a whole other issue, all the minors that have been lost. But that money to go into the
00:11:07.820 UCCB, those hundreds of millions, that's only a small part. Their budget, UCCB didn't exist
00:11:16.600 before Paula VI made conferences all over the place. They don't have any real authority. It 0.56
00:11:21.760 was the bishop and the pope, and that was it. But now they're there. That money is just to cost us
00:11:26.660 less than one Catholic hospital. Think of all the hospitals and colleges and all the dirty money 0.92
00:11:32.600 that you're not seeing in this report. All over the world, like you mentioned, Ben, it's all over
00:11:37.720 the world um there's catholic charities is a local operation mainly and catholic relief services that
00:11:44.640 run that actually bring in the migrants and pay for them and settlement settle and settle them
00:11:50.420 and and lose all the children you know those are separate operations that have their own budgets
00:11:55.560 you know that they're related they have you know they are they're intermixed but legally
00:11:59.780 so what does the usccb do with a lot of their money i wonder how much of it is actually lobbying
00:12:05.320 Because as this article says, they have all sorts of campaigns against Trump all the time, constantly, no matter what.
00:12:14.560 And you can see all the different articles that they list in this piece here.
00:12:20.540 I was going to ask you to say just a bit about, to recap, why we have been calling out Trad Inc. so much on this show over the years.
00:12:31.980 since we've been doing this show since Leo stepped out onto the balcony
00:12:36.060 and to draw attention to the grubby reality here.
00:12:42.700 We've lifted up the slab, as it were,
00:12:45.160 and we see all the creepy crawlies now sort of down in the dark, hidden.
00:12:49.820 And I was going to ask you to take a victory lap around that point.
00:12:55.240 I won't, because you just said something in your closing words,
00:12:58.400 which is, for anybody who's been involved with working in government
00:13:05.040 and how NGOs are financed, you've just actually really said
00:13:11.640 one of the most profound things about how the corruption works,
00:13:15.520 and that is government gives taxpayers money to these NGOs,
00:13:22.220 which are normally called under the category of civil society,
00:13:26.640 And this is definitely one of those that would certainly come into that general budget line, right?
00:13:35.120 Government gives money to NGOs masked as civil society expenditure.
00:13:42.520 And that civil society, and this includes, I repeat, the institutional Catholic Church,
00:13:47.580 then use taxpayers' money to lobby the government according to the diktat of the government through which they will then get more.
00:13:58.320 But it's basically government, you know, it would look too corrupt if government spent these sums of money in lobbying and shaping public opinion.
00:14:09.360 It does do that, right? It definitely spends public money to condition public opinion.
00:14:17.580 But what government does is it funnels that money via the NGOs to make it look as if it's independent lobbying, independent sort of consultation, when really it's just government paying outside organizations that take their cut to lobby themselves, to lobby the government itself.
00:14:38.760 And that's exactly what the International Catholic Church here is complicit in doing. Frank Walker.
00:14:45.980 Yeah, it's like in China. You have a state machine that they're calling a church, and they want us to follow it and obey it. 0.87
00:14:53.660 I mean, the things that they do with this money, they fought for birthright citizenship, and they sued, and they won in the Supreme Court.
00:15:00.020 They made a big video of the bishops, and Pope Leo out of Castle Gandolfo said that Trump was not pro-life.
00:15:06.960 And they had—the Miami bishop was just in Washington lobbying for 350,000 Haitian extensions to be able to stay in the country.
00:15:15.300 They have pilgrimages right up to the ice doors, and they hold the monstrance right up to the door.
00:15:21.740 They complain that they're inhuman treatment at Alligator Alcatraz.
00:15:25.260 They pass Holy Communion through the slats of the border fence, and they're fighting an eminent domain suit down in New Mexico so that they can't build the border wall through this park. 0.90
00:15:37.400 and they're flooding the Episcopate with Latin American liberation theology people that are not 0.57
00:15:43.480 really, you know, related to the American people. And they have a whole new level of attack that 0.53
00:15:48.100 they know that they brought up and down there. This is all the reality of this government church
00:15:52.840 that you're describing. And so, yes, to Trad Inc., we have to say, if you consider these things to be
00:15:59.320 holy, and we must have this respectful obligation that we would have normally towards the church
00:16:06.360 in the hierarchy, I would consider how it is funded and who these people work for in comparison
00:16:13.480 to Christ himself. And it's a global problem, like you said, Ben, when you look at Kuwaita,
00:16:20.100 the way they handle that in Spain, even in Tokyo, where they don't have an illegal alien problem,
00:16:24.980 that the Cardinal of Tokyo Kikuchi is lobbying for more illegal aliens. They want to destroy
00:16:31.800 But even Japan, and the Cardinal at the same time, following the diktats of the government, is pushing LGBT rights instruction training in a country where that is so foreign, where they haven't been morally as infiltrated as they have everywhere else. 0.94
00:16:50.180 What does that have to do with illegal aliens? 0.61
00:16:52.620 Well, it's just that's the head of Caritas.
00:16:55.160 That's the big umbrella group that gets all that illegal alien money all around the world. 0.72
00:17:01.300 And here he is pushing LGBTQ training in a place like Tokyo. 0.66
00:17:08.380 It's just the corrupt church is enormous, and we are all its victims. 0.89
00:17:14.580 And when you look at how the money falls out, it's incontrovertible. 0.87
00:17:21.140 It's disgusting, Frank Walker, that they're doing this.
00:17:25.940 They're doing this in the name of God.
00:17:27.860 When it comes to the faith and it comes to salvation, you know, what actually makes me angry, because, you know, I've been working in politics now for 30 years.
00:17:38.320 I'm pretty cynical about things that I see in public life, right?
00:17:43.380 And, you know, churchmen are basically politicians anyway, unelected politicians anyway.
00:17:49.020 You've got to be in order to get to the top.
00:17:52.360 That's how the Catholic Church works.
00:17:54.520 that institution that calls itself the Catholic Church works.
00:17:58.800 Now, it wasn't always like that, but it is now.
00:18:02.220 But I could, you know, if it were just a case of the grift
00:18:05.920 and the sponsoring of the invasion,
00:18:10.680 that wouldn't sort of, that wouldn't get me here.
00:18:13.420 What gets me here is the fact that above the grift,
00:18:18.180 above the corruption,
00:18:19.740 these people that call themselves bishops and cardinals
00:18:23.100 and expect the laity to bow down and scrape whenever they walk by, right?
00:18:30.960 There are few believing Catholics in the world today,
00:18:38.460 people who actually hold the unchanging Catholic faith, very few.
00:18:43.240 What these people do, that really makes me angry, right?
00:18:46.680 Because they could just stick in their marble palaces
00:18:49.120 with all their artwork and all the rest of it and all the grift,
00:18:51.660 and that would just be one category of selling out but the thing that's really satanic is if
00:18:58.300 sponsoring the invasion and the dissolution of the the judaic christen west wasn't satanic but
00:19:04.360 what's really satanic frank walker is that they go beyond that and those few can believe in catholics
00:19:12.480 that there are they go by these people these bishops these these cardinals these so-called 0.98
00:19:19.400 pups and they kick the back of these Catholics they kick the in the back of the knees right
00:19:27.600 they make believing so much more difficult that's what I find just unpalatable you know I could you 1.00
00:19:35.940 know as I said I've been in politics I've seen the grift I could forget the grift right I could
00:19:40.200 just ignore the grift but they have they have to go and make the the difficult job of believing 0.96
00:19:47.200 in an unbelieving world more difficult for those things that pertain to the faith that we're going 0.98
00:19:53.760 to move on hey uh but ben the hispanics have dropped like crazy it's not like they're becoming 1.00
00:20:00.920 catholic they're all leaving the church they come into this country i wanted to add that on there 0.98
00:20:05.580 we hit you're right um this is why it all ties together right these things that we're talking
00:20:11.260 today emerged in the news in the last 48 hours what you're talking about there we hit that
00:20:17.020 before we knew that before we had the statistical evidence we hit this that exact point on last
00:20:22.880 wednesday's show there is a continuity week in week out why we do this show because even though
00:20:29.000 when we do we don't know what we're going to be talking about next wednesday either we're going
00:20:32.120 to see what news they furnish us between now and then but you can guarantee that it will fit this
00:20:37.880 this narrative if you know how to see it um and this is in that we've called out constantly i
00:20:43.720 will say this before we move on but these themes i'm sure they're going to be woven in right to the
00:20:48.700 rest of the stories because it's all it's all the same thing looking at it's the same thing we're
00:20:52.560 talking about from few four different angles right i'll close with this what we can do about this as
00:20:59.400 believing catholics or believing evangelicals conservative evangelicals right
00:21:07.020 don't give to your hireling shepherds a sense of obedience where it is not appropriate
00:21:18.860 and in the catholic church i'd say it's not appropriate basically anyway we need we catholics
00:21:25.200 we believe in catholics need to take the running of the church back we need to take the reins of
00:21:32.380 the church out of the hands of these corrupt highling shepherds who are driving the church 0.94
00:21:39.680 maliciously, satanically into the ground, as they have been doing for the last 65 years, 0.91
00:21:45.800 take the running of the reins of the church out of their hands and correct the trajectory.
00:21:52.600 Now, there's a question, there's a legitimate question as to what the proper role is in the
00:21:56.840 laity, for the laity, in the traditionally understood in the Catholic church, and it might
00:22:01.700 not be running the church but there is necessary for a course correction we need to storm the
00:22:07.140 cockpit basically course correct clear out all the highly shepherds right and don't respect
00:22:17.220 related we need we need don't respect them don't don't give them these are the people who are
00:22:24.000 81.8 percent are funded right by taxpayer dollars in order to promote the invasion don't give these
00:22:33.420 people your obedience right and that and i'll take this moment to call out tradink who for the last
00:22:40.300 14 months or whatever it's been 15 months have been saying don't criticize the pope publicly 0.70
00:22:47.200 because it's unseemly and uncatholic we as catholics owe the papacy our docile obedience
00:22:54.120 right this is what they say give leo time right give him patience and don't forget to donate 0.65
00:23:00.280 this has been their shtick for 15 months right that's creating that's helping scandal we have
00:23:06.700 an obligation to correct scandal and the biggest scandal that you could ever imagine is having a
00:23:11.780 pope and bishops who are contemptible and we treat them with respect everybody's misled by
00:23:18.480 that and that's a sin on our part isn't that canon 212 isn't that isn't isn't that what canon
00:23:27.920 212 is about the obligation of the of the laity on that point right undoing scandal undoing the
00:23:35.040 scandal of this false church the whole part of the point of a church is to lead you to god to
00:23:40.600 lead you to heaven. And when they're leading you the opposite way in obedience to the world,
00:23:45.800 well, then somebody has to, as Catholics, our job is to step in and correct that problem. And it's
00:23:50.280 not just going to be directly with the church. It's going to be in every aspect of life. People
00:23:54.940 are taught to be respectful for contemptible things. And just that in and of itself, not even
00:24:01.720 with obedience, is always such a huge mistake. I had to go look to a Novus Ordo, and they were
00:24:07.640 giving a lesson to the kids today they taught them politeness and obedience and respect of
00:24:13.880 authority and all these sheepish qualities and really there's so much more than that you have
00:24:20.820 to have a agency and that we need agency it just says the human race needs agency we're being 1.00
00:24:25.940 walked all over and it's the same in this government church that catholics are being
00:24:30.280 like you said kicked by just by these bishops that's not what even the best bishops are are
00:24:38.220 bad on these paid for issues it's just not to do something in this situation with the world in
00:24:45.400 crisis as it is with the catholic church in crisis as it is is to mask cowardice and weakness and
00:24:52.840 apathy under the outer veneer of piety and obedience and i you know i don't think either
00:25:00.260 does frank walker have any time for it look we we haven't done the ad read i'm going to do it now
00:25:04.760 um because i think the first half of the show what frank walker was saying has been so engaging
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00:32:05.300 the movement welcome back okay frank walker let's uh we're gonna gallop through these um
00:32:12.500 remaining three stories now um let's go to this religion news service story uh suggesting that
00:32:21.160 people standing for election and getting involved in elections describing themselves as pastors
00:32:28.640 aren't real pastors i'd say look and this ties into what we're saying already and it will tie
00:32:35.600 into what we're going to say as we cover the rest of the material the consequence folks
00:32:41.060 that Christianity is so powerful in the United States at this moment in time
00:32:48.780 and is so engaged in the public square
00:32:52.800 is that it's like a moth on a porch in the middle of summer to the grifters.
00:33:02.540 And this would be the case whatever the situation was. 0.92
00:33:06.700 We're dealing with Christianity at the moment.
00:33:08.720 Christianity is particularly, it's having a moment, as it were.
00:33:14.480 I think it's even more, the role of Christianity is even more engaged right now
00:33:19.760 than, say, it was in the 80s when Ronald Reagan was president.
00:33:23.940 That would be my thesis.
00:33:25.380 But the consequence of that is that because it is important,
00:33:31.140 because voters are increasingly voting,
00:33:33.940 uh christian voters are increasingly voting on christian issues and that proportion of the
00:33:40.740 electorate is growing it's attracting the grifters um and i i i think frank walker this story
00:33:47.960 illustrates that to some degree what was your take here yeah i i agree with you that um that
00:33:54.700 they're trying to capitalize on it and you know this is this is just it's sort of like growing
00:33:59.240 like a virus you know this was something that you saw in latin america and you saw in the in the
00:34:04.100 black community you know with people that who are are religious leaders that are moving into politics 0.99
00:34:08.820 but it wasn't so much in the in the mainline uh protestants and you know catholics don't belong
00:34:13.940 to directly to politics but they all meddle in it there's in iowa there's a couple of people that
00:34:19.100 are are running and they've had success and then in texas and that's what this article discusses
00:34:24.280 And they're going to, they're like studying to be seminarians, Protestant seminarians.
00:34:30.280 And you probably heard of James Tallarico in Texas.
00:34:33.920 But my point is that they're not really addressing it correctly.
00:34:37.660 The Republicans are looking at them and they're saying, well, they're blasphemous in their policies.
00:34:42.760 And it's true, but they're fighting from the negative.
00:34:45.620 They're saying Tallarico is blasphemous.
00:34:47.700 They're saying that this one woman is a witch, which is something they tried a year ago. 0.89
00:34:52.220 They take a Protestant and they call her a witch because they really have leftist, evil
00:34:58.780 leftist policies, just like the Pope.
00:35:01.220 No different than that, except for they're open politicians.
00:35:04.340 But I think the best way to address it, negativity is important, but you need to come back with
00:35:09.140 a positive, I'm a Christian, I'm a pro-Christian person, and here's how we apply this.
00:35:14.500 I think of an example of somebody like Pete Hegseth.
00:35:16.880 Pete Hexeth is always very openly Christian about his justifications for why he does things.
00:35:25.520 And you can't really knock it because it's true. 0.98
00:35:30.120 And Ken Paxton in Texas and Dan Patrick are calling him blasphemous.
00:35:38.920 I think it's also good to come back and be positive.
00:35:42.080 And take, you know, we can have people who are pastors that are actually Catholic or actually Christian, actually Bible believing, and then show how that policy works.
00:35:52.260 And that will address what you said there, Ben, about this new Christian, you know, that's the only way really to come at this.
00:35:58.560 um yeah i'm trying to go back i i'm intrigued by what you said about pete hegseth there because i
00:36:08.900 had i had the same intuition uh about the guy um but i like the way how you framed it
00:36:15.740 where you said you know basically if you want to be negative but come back with a positive
00:36:22.000 and then you say that pete hegseth is i don't i don't want to put words into your mouth you
00:36:27.580 didn't quite say role model but i guess he is in a way i i think he is as to how to be a christian
00:36:35.080 in public life because i i actually think he does very very well at showing how his faith is
00:36:41.280 in a non-preachy way he does very well i think showing how his faith is the positive
00:36:47.000 um a very sincere way of showing how his faith his faith gives him the impetus of what he's
00:36:53.400 trying to do in public service. Trump is like that, too, more than in previous presidents.
00:36:59.200 He's like that in many ways, too. It's just that, you know, we have so many evangelicals and
00:37:04.980 Protestants that support things like gay marriage and the trans movement and Catholics, too, that
00:37:11.240 we need to have a clear voice. We have to enunciate what our message is and how it goes back to
00:37:17.660 biblical values and to traditional Christian and Catholic values. And I think that's the best way
00:37:25.180 to respond to this, because this kind of thing can be successful. But in the end, I don't think
00:37:29.520 it works out. Does anybody remember that Jesse Jackson was a reverend? You know, it didn't work
00:37:34.660 out because when they got into politics and you got to know them better enough, you can see they
00:37:37.920 had nothing to do with the Christian faith. You know, it was just a label designed to reel in
00:37:42.720 voters but uh yeah that that's what i think about this new movement but it is they say it's
00:37:47.380 successful in this rns piece they say the republicans that are trying to come from a clearly
00:37:52.260 a faithful perspective as reverends as official pastors as being trained in these they haven't
00:38:00.480 had as much success but they kind of have had you know about the same success it's just this
00:38:05.220 article is lean to the left so i think it can be done and i think we have a duty to
00:38:10.540 um isn't al sharpton a reverend yeah that's right al sharpton's a reverend they're bringing
00:38:18.660 back that tradition all right um i get your i get your point about jesse jackson as well
00:38:24.860 um all right look quickly then moving on to um that really basically it's another subject for
00:38:32.420 another day but you really only get this in the united states these these uh these these reverends
00:38:37.760 in politics, in public life.
00:38:40.440 We don't get that in the UK.
00:38:42.780 All right, OK, let's move on to Germany now.
00:38:45.400 There's a confirmation here of something that we've said,
00:38:47.960 Jenny often points it out on the show,
00:38:50.040 in terms of the increases, the slight incremental increases
00:38:53.700 in adult baptisms, perhaps down on infant,
00:38:57.660 on baptisms of babies, the cultural Catholics. 0.85
00:39:01.020 This is a general indication.
00:39:02.200 I don't see a specific Generation Z dynamic in this, in what we're going to talk about now, the latest figures, but it's certainly consonant with what we're saying.
00:39:12.300 So you're getting an increase, a year-by-year increase in adult – I'd like to know what the age categories are of this, actually.
00:39:21.880 getting a year-by-year increase in Catholic baptisms of adults in Germany,
00:39:30.260 of course, in America, in France, in Austria,
00:39:34.380 this article indicates so on and so forth,
00:39:38.020 and an increase in adults who are leaving the church in Germany,
00:39:43.860 huge catastrophic numbers, and decreases in infant baptisms.
00:39:50.160 That is, I think, confirmation of the general thing that we talk about here on the show of the dynamics of what's going on. The cultural Catholicism, see, the tide is going out on that because after two or three generations post-cancel, it's just not worth it anymore. The post-conciliar faith isn't worth passing on.
00:40:12.820 What you do get, though, what you are getting are adults coming forward.
00:40:17.820 They see the valuelessness of contemporary secular life, 0.90
00:40:24.580 and they're responding to the Christian call. 0.77
00:40:27.220 Frank Walker. 0.94
00:40:28.440 Right, because the faith is like sprouts, little shoots out of the cracks in the sidewalk.
00:40:34.800 No matter how much the world tries to crush it, they can't really kill it.
00:40:38.300 They couldn't kill Jesus for more than a couple of days.
00:40:40.920 you know so it's going to keep coming out but then they turn to the catholic church and what
00:40:44.680 do they get you know they have um the 28 percent increase in adult baptisms that sounds like huge
00:40:52.460 great news but it's really only 700 people in germany i think there's 84 million people in
00:40:58.000 germany and uh or i don't know if that many catholics i forget what the statistic is but um
00:41:03.840 the actual like you mentioned the number of people that are and you have to fill out a form you have
00:41:10.000 to go to an office to quit the German church because you don't make donations there. They
00:41:14.800 take them from you in your taxes. And if you're making a hundred thousand euros, it amounts to
00:41:19.360 like a hundred euros a month in your family. That's what they take from you. You don't give
00:41:26.480 it. So if you have to go through all the trouble to go in there and sign up for that, still a half
00:41:32.180 a million people are leaving every, yeah, there's 20 million Catholics in Germany and a half a
00:41:36.500 million are leaving every year. And so, you know, it's not going to be long, and the babies are
00:41:43.400 7,000 less every year. So that's the reality. The fact that new people are coming to the Catholic,
00:41:48.800 to the church, you know, I hope that they find the traditional movements, because the traditional
00:41:54.340 movements will have a completely different effect on them than they will going to this German church.
00:41:58.460 But I do notice that in Leo's story, in Leo's church right now, the head of the Council for
00:42:05.780 the economy has been held over. Cardinal Marx from Germany from way back in 2014. He's still
00:42:12.120 there now. And that must be a very important council because there are people from boards
00:42:18.200 and insurance, European insurance companies, European finance and banking, all sorts of very
00:42:24.460 powerful people are on the board of the Vatican Bank. And he's the one in charge. And now they
00:42:30.300 have the synodal movement that they've you know been just blown over the top even past leo's
00:42:36.200 heresies but they appointed somebody from the head of that movement to be like the co the co-chair of
00:42:42.680 the vatican bank from germany too so the where they get all of that those billions into that
00:42:47.640 church that really that really has an effect on france on leo's church so let's let's do some
00:42:53.880 number crunching then frank walker um 2650 is the number of adults and young adults baptized
00:43:01.620 in germany in 2025 that's a 28 increase from the previous year um i my take on that is not
00:43:11.580 so so much that people are flocking towards leo it's the fact that bergoglio was so bad and so
00:43:17.960 off-putting um it's some somewhat of a dead cat bounce in terms of infant baptisms they're coming
00:43:26.480 down 109,002 baptism christenings basically of kids in 2025 that's down from 116,274 in the year
00:43:43.640 before um 300 000 adults formally left the church in germany according to the procedure that frank
00:43:55.880 walker was just talking about um though good news that is down from 321 000 the year before
00:44:03.580 um just like back in it's sort of decreasing that the stampede for the door is decreasing year on
00:44:11.180 year in 2022 it was over half a million um yeah in terms of the actual cash the the um because
00:44:20.740 that's what it's all about the german bishops conference said that the uh the catholic church
00:44:26.700 in germany received 6.75 billion euros that's about 7.7 billion dollars via the official church
00:44:37.360 tax system um if i were if i were german catholic i would go through the i think they excommunicate
00:44:44.480 you don't don't they they say you can't receive the sacraments if you do it obviously it's all
00:44:49.800 it's it's all about the money right there's no pretense it's all about the money they they won't
00:44:55.660 give you the sacraments out of spite if you say you don't what if you don't you don't want your
00:45:00.400 portion of your tax taxes taxes which is already high in germany going towards the institutional
00:45:06.200 or Catholic Church. I would do that. I would 0.93
00:45:08.120 actually say, you know what, I'll take my look with the
00:45:09.960 SSPX. I'll take my look with
00:45:11.660 the Lefebvre's. You're not taking
00:45:14.100 a single dollar or euro
00:45:16.240 of my tax income
00:45:17.980 because you're a modernist.
00:45:19.460 They don't get government money either. They don't get government
00:45:21.880 money in the trad world. They also
00:45:23.940 have half as many priests that they ordained.
00:45:26.080 25 and 10 years
00:45:28.100 ago it was 50. I mean,
00:45:29.900 the Catholic Church is a priestly religion.
00:45:32.380 Priests are essential and necessary.
00:45:34.960 So, you know,
00:45:35.760 people are trying to find the faith but all around them is is this collapse
00:45:40.740 people people are trying frank walker people are trying to yes they are searching the faith but i
00:45:47.560 tell you where they're not going to find faith it's in the very people that drove people out
00:45:53.860 that drove the folks out of the church over the last 65 years right these the the the the priests
00:45:59.900 bishops and cardinals have had a concerted effort to empty the churches of the last 65 years because
00:46:07.360 they don't want anyone in who actually holds the traditional catholic faith so if you're if you're
00:46:12.280 waking up to the to to just how valueless the modern system is you're not going to why go to
00:46:20.460 the very people who've driven the catholic church the institutional catholic church into the ground
00:46:25.660 You need to go elsewhere. You need to go into the traditional movements that are only tenuously or explicitly not in communion with Rome at all, because that's where they go.
00:46:39.380 There's 10 times as many babies that aren't being baptized as there are new Catholics that are adults. 0.89
00:46:45.900 Compare that to the new mosque in the city that's going with it in Texas right now. 1.00
00:46:49.980 You know, they in Islam, they grow like crazy. And Islam, their politicians are already like like official religious figures because everybody is a religious figure in Islam. You wear it on your sleeve. 1.00
00:47:04.040 Only the difference is these people, the religious versions of the Jesse Jacksons and the Al Sharpton in Islam, right, they actually do believe the substance of their faith.
00:47:24.240 That's the difference, right? To say nothing of the Catholic Church's version of Highly Shepherds.
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00:48:55.080 All right, Frank Walker, time running out. I've got about just a couple of minutes left.
00:48:59.440 Now, let's quickly talk about this rather bizarre clarification that the Vatican made going back to the year 2000 when Pope John Paul II had apparently said, God bless Islam in a prayer for, I think, Jordan.
00:49:19.740 That was what was carried on the official Vatican website.
00:49:24.280 the clarification was made secretly no statement was made so we don't quite know what it was made
00:49:29.860 but the apparently it was a dodgy um audio uh coupled with john paul ii's polish accented
00:49:39.240 english he was actually saying god bless this land rather than god as in jordan rather than
00:49:45.160 god bless islam the reason i mention this now frank walker is that trad inc our old friends
00:49:51.760 at Trad Inc. are cock-a-hoop about this clarification
00:49:55.160 because they're saying, oh, look,
00:49:56.940 just how orthodox JP2 really was.
00:50:00.100 He never said, God bless Islam.
00:50:01.740 He said, God bless this land.
00:50:04.580 Frank Walker, as you are talking about Trad Inc.'s response to this,
00:50:09.960 we're just going to gently put up a photo from the year before,
00:50:12.900 the year 1999, May the 14th,
00:50:17.000 the day after Our Lady of Fatima, May the 14th, 1999.
00:50:21.760 when John Paul II was kissing a Koran. 0.87
00:50:27.460 And he's having a good snog with that Koran. 0.90
00:50:30.660 So that photo is going to go up of JP2 kissing the Koran 0.57
00:50:36.460 as you tell us Trad Inc.'s reaction to just how orthodox JP2 really was
00:50:41.920 with regards to Islam.
00:50:44.060 Take it away, Frank Walker.
00:50:45.800 Yes, Trad Inc. likes to make sure that everybody knows that JP2 is good,
00:50:50.680 that every pope must be obeyed and followed and considered to be, you know, in many cases today,
00:50:56.580 especially in Leo's case, godlike. You know, Leo has a sidekick, a little Edgar, that he's known
00:51:02.980 since he was 15 years old. He was in Peru yesterday, and he said, I'm like John the Baptist, and Leo's
00:51:08.480 like Jesus. So they make too much out of these popes. But I, you know, I think it's clear from
00:51:15.560 the audio, like you just mentioned, that he was saying, bless this land. But he did kiss the
00:51:20.660 Quran. I don't think that was a mistake or a misrepresentation. And, you know, they have a
00:51:25.660 lot of things to knock against them. I think what this teaches, this event, is that, like Benedict
00:51:31.680 said, my authority ends at that door of the office. I don't feel like I have any power over
00:51:36.900 anything in this church because there are so many wolves in the Vatican that, I mean, my life is at
00:51:43.540 stake. And then he ended up running away anyway. So it wasn't any different when JP II was there.
00:51:48.880 Those guys were there at the permission, at the permission of whatever the powers that be were.
00:51:54.820 Paul VI and John XXIII, yeah, it might be okay.
00:51:57.840 Leo and Francis, completely different.
00:52:00.640 When Leo and Francis, when they put the wrong thing in the Vatican News somewhere, it's because Leo and Francis wanted that way.
00:52:08.000 Talking about Vatican News, 10 seconds, Frank Walker, where do people go to stay abreast like I did this week about everything important?
00:52:18.000 That's worth knowing taking place.
00:52:19.700 What website do they go to?
00:52:21.880 NN212 at 1N.
00:52:23.980 Take a look.
00:52:24.700 You can see the daily update on the right column.
00:52:26.940 There's a video update about 10, 15 minutes at Gloria TV and at Rumble.
00:52:31.340 That's where you can find it.
00:52:32.320 God bless you.
00:52:32.880 See you next week.
00:52:33.540 Thanks to Rob at Real America's Voice this week.
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