Bannon's War Room - August 11, 2026


Episode 5580： Bringing Back Made In America; Big Techs Work Around For H1-B's

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Steve Bannon
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Donald Trump George, George, George George Fishman Peter Navarro Bill Burr Jim Jordan Bill Pulte Todd Blanche Rod Rosenstein William Luther Pierce John Solomon James Baker James Comey Walter Giardino George Papadopoulos Robert Mueller Chuck Grassley Jeff Clark Natalie Steele and 39 more
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00:00:00 appease Donald Trump, but behind the scenes, maybe he'll become a Mike Pence or he'll become
00:00:06 a Bill Barr when it really matters. Have you seen evidence of people continuing to do that
00:00:13 in Arizona or the conversations you're having about the officials who are either in charge now
00:00:19 or who want to be in charge in this next election cycle, where they might go with this?
00:00:24 Sure. I mean, what I have seen evidence of is a vast number of Trump supporters and Republicans who want the administration to follow through on their promises to make people whole, J6ers whole. 1.00
00:00:40 People like Tina Peters, who was convicted of, you know, being involved in illegal activity to try to help prove that the 2020 election was inaccurate to make these people whole. 1.00
00:00:58 They have created an environment in which there is an expectation that Blanche and others will do what needs to be done and they will find the means to do it.
00:01:07 um andy biggs is running to be the governor of the state of arizona um has he backed off of any
00:01:16 of his election claims in that race what you see uh mr biggs doing in this moment is not talking
00:01:24 about 2020 at all he understands the vice that he is in he understands the tightrope that he is
00:01:30 walking he understands that he is running against a democrat governor katie hobbs an incumbent
00:01:35 who made a name for herself standing for the integrity of the 2020 election.
00:01:40 He understands that it turns off independent voters and centrist Republicans.
00:01:47 At the same time, if he acknowledges that perhaps the 2020 election was fair and accurate,
00:01:55 he risks angering the president and a third of the MAGA base.
00:02:00 And you can't win an election in a politically competitive state like Arizona
00:02:04 by anchoring these people.
00:02:08 So I think you can see him not talk a lot about it front and center.
00:02:12 We'll see if his supporters will let him get away with that.
00:02:17 My question broadly, and this is a question that we've asked multiple times,
00:02:20 is what happens come Election Day if Donald Trump or Republicans and the party lose in Arizona,
00:02:28 if they lose in Texas, if they lose in other key places, places they think they should be winning in?
00:02:33 What does Donald Trump demand of Todd Blanche?
00:02:36 And then what does Todd Blanche then try to demand of the people in those various states?
00:02:40 I think the big tell here was who did Bill Cassidy consult at the very end of this process?
00:02:46 Bill Barr.
00:02:47 Right, Bill Barr. 0.95
00:02:48 Bill Barr may have said Donald Trump's election claims were bulls**t,
00:02:52 but Bill Barr very much supports Donald Trump's vision of executive power.
00:02:56 And that's the takeaway.
00:02:57 My big takeaway from the entire Blanche saga in the Senate is,
00:03:01 this is a party divided on all kinds of different lines. Most of these people
00:03:04 in private don't really like Donald Trump. They don't like the direction he's taking them in,
00:03:09 but what are they united by? They are united by a shared faith and a powerful executive. I think
00:03:15 that's something that's hiding in plain sight that most observers of the current political
00:03:19 scene aren't really looking at. If the midterms don't go Trump's way this fall,
00:03:24 is there any world in which Todd Blunt stands up to Trump if he's asked to find some fake
00:03:29 evidence of voter fraud or are we screwed now we're screwed great that's what i suspected
00:03:35 quarter 2026 the supply management institute pmi shows that manufacturing has expanded for seven
00:03:42 consecutive months you've talked about the american manufacturing renaissance for about
00:03:46 10 years at this point given all the statistics and the investment that have come in do you feel
00:03:51 vindicated at this point so we're doing record increases in the united states in manufacturing
00:03:56 A lot of that has to do with the tariffs because companies are coming in.
00:04:00 They're not able to sell their product unless they come in because they have no tariff.
00:04:04 If they build their product, whether it's a car or something else, if they make it in the United States, there is no tariff.
00:04:09 So they're coming in. We have a record number of factories under construction, factories, plants, things as such.
00:04:18 Toyota just announced that they're building the largest the largest car plant.
00:04:24 They make cars, plant in the world, anywhere in the world.
00:04:28 They're leaving Mexico and they're coming to the United States.
00:04:31 Many, many car plants, AI, other, you know, they're opening.
00:04:36 I will say that they're leaving Canada.
00:04:39 They're leaving Mexico.
00:04:40 They're leaving Germany.
00:04:41 They're leaving Japan.
00:04:42 They're leaving South Korea.
00:04:43 They're coming into the United States because they don't want to pay a 25% tariff on a car.
00:04:48 And they don't have to pay a tariff if they make it here.
00:04:50 So we have the largest number of plants ever being built in the United States right now.
00:04:56 Hard to believe, right?
00:04:57 Because if you listen to some of our past projects, it would never be a manufacturing country again.
00:05:02 And these plants are going to start opening up in about six months.
00:05:06 And I can only say that the next president will get a lot of credit for what I've done.
00:05:12 Please remember, it was me, not them.
00:05:17 Tuesday, 11 August, year of early, 2026.
00:05:20 Let's go right to the White House. We've got Dr. Peter Navar. Dr. Navar, we're here for an amazing piece you've got up in the New York Post.
00:05:28 Also, I want to talk about Fauci, want to talk about the hoax, but you're the president's right hand on all things tariffs and manufacturing.
00:05:38 Can you just give us some observations about the president's comment yesterday, which I think is this.
00:05:43 when i talked to you or scott or others i said there's such amazing economic news that is really
00:05:50 signal and all the media wants to talk about is the noise but if you get to the signal it's pretty
00:05:55 powerful give me a give me a minute or two and by the way i want to make sure the audience
00:05:59 understands this and the media understands this i'm leading off with navarro today not as a proof
00:06:05 of life uh that janine piero didn't arrest him last night so dr navarro manufacturing you're the
00:06:12 manufacturing czar. The president talking about the greatest buildup of American manufacturing
00:06:18 in history. Sir, comments, observations. We had more viral yesterday on the Puro matter than
00:06:28 we did during the pandemic on COVID. So let's leave that at that. Message has been sent. 0.92
00:06:35 Look, the economics of this administration are very clear.
00:06:45 The two most important things we have in place right now is a solid, broad and deep tariff regime,
00:06:54 which is sending appropriate signals to the world that if you don't want to be tariffed, you make it here.
00:06:59 So we're seeing a flood of onshoring come in, and we're seeing that both in monetary terms, in terms of the investment flows, but also in real bricks and mortar and construction and manufacturing jobs.
00:07:14 And at the same time, the big, beautiful bill, 100 percent expensing, has allowed us basically to further stimulate factory construction here.
00:07:26 And the whole idea, Steve, is MAGA, basically the foundation of MAGA is the blue-collar workers of America who got left behind, starting with NAFTA, SHAFTA, China ended the WTO, and all the bad trade deals we did that President Trump has unwound.
00:07:47 You add to that the strategic energy dominance that we have.
00:07:56 You add to that the great job Lee Zeldin is doing at the EPA with respect to deregulation.
00:08:03 And you really have a replay of the four horsemen of prosperity during the Trump years,
00:08:12 the tax cuts, the lower regulatory burden, the strategic energy dominance, the fair trade.
00:08:17 But you have it now on steroids. And we're not seeing that talked about. The legacy media who hates us doesn't want to give us credit for anything. But it shows up in the data. One of my jobs is to make sure folks know about that, which is why we talk to the war room and others quite a bit. We do the videos, etc.
00:08:40 But that's the baseline.
00:08:43 So let's go to the good stuff because I want to get to this, okay?
00:08:50 But you go ahead.
00:08:52 Okay.
00:08:53 Real quickly, though, just for the audience, the tariffs are a forcing function.
00:08:57 What the Supreme Court kind of backed your play.
00:09:00 It just said, hey, the IEPA, the emergency measures can't do that, but you can do the 301s, 302s, everything we did in the first term.
00:09:08 That's what you're doing.
00:09:09 People should understand President Trump's still going to get his tariff regime, and that's the forcing function to continue to drive, either generate a tremendous amount of cash for the Treasury and cut the deficit, or the primary function is to force high-value-added manufacturing jobs back here to the United States, correct?
00:09:28 Yes, and we didn't get the best-case scenario with the Supreme Court, but the second best-case scenario actually, I think, is better than the first.
00:09:42 And let me explain that. What the Supreme Court did, and rightly so because we're right on the law, was say, hey, you can use all the other things you're using, 232, 301, et cetera, because that's perfectly well within the scope of the power of the president.
00:10:01 And so what we were able to do with the IEPA tariffs, the emergency tariffs at the beginning, President Trump was able to use those as a cudgel, basically, to force a whole bunch of deals that Jamison Greer took the pen on and was tip of the spear, along with Howard Ludnick, and in certain countries, Scott Besson.
00:10:25 And those three musketeers, man, they're hard to beat, brother.
00:10:29 They're doing a really good job.
00:10:31 And so what we've been able to do is essentially across the 301s, that's mostly countries.
00:10:42 The 232s are things like steel, aluminum, copper, critical minerals, chips, and so on.
00:10:51 So we get that.
00:10:52 And then the 122 is a further bridge that allows us 150 days to do the global tariffs, which we have at 10 percent.
00:11:03 And the money's flowing in and that's going to be to the benefit of taxpayers.
00:11:12 You might have noticed we had a little bit of debt going on, Steve.
00:11:15 And the investment is flowing in from abroad on shoring.
00:11:21 um and the construction work is is building the factories and and that's the plan and it's it's a
00:11:28 beautiful thing nobody's talking about it because you know what they're talking about um but but
00:11:34 they they talk about these other things uh because they hate trump and they don't want him to secede
00:11:40 they want to win that november election and they're going to try to argue uh that the economy's in
00:11:46 trouble and the tariffs cause it's all bs yeah no you you you coupled with lee zelden what what
00:11:52 what jeff what jeff clark exposed that the de-industrialization went through all the
00:11:57 environmental laws you got lee zelden doing a great job at epa reversing that coupled with
00:12:03 you and and jameson greer ambassador greer uh you know cabinet secretary ludnick best and
00:12:09 secretary jordan best and that team is driving a man don't forget russ vote too because in the
00:12:14 United States yeah yeah yeah don't forget Russ vote fantastic job he's basically holding the
00:12:20 line wherever he can and he's doing a great job at that yes the war room the war room contributors
00:12:29 punch list okay let's go to you've got an amazing piece and it's been blowing my head up why this is
00:12:34 not getting more serious analytics in back of it you've finally done it at the New York Post
00:12:40 want to thank the new york post who were every now and again critical of the new york post for
00:12:45 publishing this walk us through we got a couple minutes here i'm gonna hold you on through to the
00:12:49 other side walk me through this thing is so outrageous that an investigation was started
00:12:54 on a sitting commander-in-chief during his during his term and particularly when he was headed to
00:13:00 the middle east for the first time to try to lay hands on radical islam and and make sure that the
00:13:06 Western Europe and the United States and the Middle East was safe. 0.98
00:13:10 Sir, walk us through this.
00:13:13 Yeah, let me let me do this, because what's different here is we all know kind of anecdotally
00:13:18 about the Russia hoax and all of that.
00:13:22 What we didn't have before is these declassified documents, which show us, Steve, the formal
00:13:29 opening document, the approving officials in the chain of command.
00:13:33 And the reason why all three of those things are important, Steve, is because it tells us who gets the subpoenas as soon as possible.
00:13:41 So so we go to May. We go to the 2016 election. We know the FBI was trying to do the Carter Pages and the Papadopoulos and all of that. OK, but May 16th, May 16th, 2021, President Donald John Trump is in office barely five months.
00:14:04 and the FBI opens an investigation on a sitting president.
00:14:11 Never happened before.
00:14:12 Now, I can hear my cue there.
00:14:14 Let me do your job.
00:14:15 When we come back from the break,
00:14:17 Navarro is going to lay out the most incredible, incredible thing.
00:14:22 He's going to name names and call for subpoenas,
00:14:25 and we're going to get this done.
00:14:27 Back to you, Steve.
00:14:29 Still my Rick Santelli impression there.
00:14:31 You know, you do your, I need you back here as a co-host.
00:14:36 I think I'm going to call over to the White House and we've got to have Navarra co-host once a week.
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00:16:17 Yeah, we're going to continue naming names throughout the day.
00:16:21 Also, tomorrow, Natalie's going to be here 1030 tomorrow on the show, currently scheduled.
00:16:26 Her Substack piece, Going Viral, is trending, naming more names on the journalists and military officers kowtowing to the Chinese Communist Party in this time of people's war against us by the CCP, unrestricted warfare.
00:16:40 And, of course, we're lining up who's on the other side of this fight.
00:16:43 I want to thank, give a hat tip to Solomon and the task force for the declassification.
00:16:49 Also, Bill Pulte, maybe the greatest director of D&I we've ever had.
00:16:55 And the Warren Posse wants to know, where's Pulte going next?
00:16:59 We need men of action.
00:17:02 Why is Bill Pulte on the beach, you know, getting a better suntan when he should be deployed?
00:17:07 I got a couple of recommendations.
00:17:09 Peter Navarro, you're going to walk us through and name names here.
00:17:12 quite important. The floor is yours, sir. Subpoenas. That's what I want, Steve. And let me
00:17:20 make the case. Russia, Russia, Russia. The hoax, okay? Things start in the 2016 campaign when 0.58
00:17:30 Hillary Clinton's campaign authorizes this phony Steele dossier, and they try to wrap Russia around
00:17:37 the president's neck, but they don't go directly after him. They go after people like Carter Page
00:17:42 and George Papadopoulos, Mike Flynn, which is bogus stuff. Okay. Didn't work. The boss gets
00:17:50 elected. Now we're five months into his term and May 16th, 2021, something unprecedented,
00:17:59 remarkable, and disgusting happens. The FBI initiates an investigation of Donald John Trump
00:18:09 under the assumption that he's a tool and a pawn of Vladimir Putin's Russia, okay?
00:18:17 Now, here's what's—we know this kind of anecdotally,
00:18:22 but what we got from John Solomon's dogged efforts in Pulte and the president's direction
00:18:28 is newly declassified documents which give us the formal opening document of that investigation,
00:18:36 all of the approving officials, and importantly, Steve, the chain of command all the way up to the top,
00:18:42 down to the implementing FBI agents, the likes of Walter Giardino, on and on.
00:18:49 Now, let me show you how this works.
00:18:51 Come May 16th, there's the opening communication.
00:18:55 The bad guy here at the top is the counterintelligence division director.
00:19:00 He's a guy named Bill Priestop.
00:19:02 Bill Priestop, remember that name.
00:19:04 And he consults with the FBI's general counsel, James Baker.
00:19:10 And in this opening communication, they say, we're investigating Trump.
00:19:16 And what happens then is you've got you've got the acting FBI director, the next name, Andrew McCabe,
00:19:26 notifying the deputy general, attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, that they're opening the matter.
00:19:34 So you've got Baker, Priestop, McCabe, and Rosenstein.
00:19:39 Okay, so the very next day, Steve, Rosenstein appoints Robert Mueller the special counsel, and the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax takes flight.
00:19:49 Now, James Comey's in this hoax as well, because the investigation is open in part because they use Comey's firing to argue that somehow that was Donald Trump trying to suppress the Russia probe.
00:20:07 So he's clearly one. We got a subpoena. So that's five so far.
00:20:13 And then the pre-STAP communication is based on a predicate that's been established by the Crossfire Hurricane team.
00:20:24 And two very familiar names there is Strzok and Page, the star-crossed lovers at the FBI who were just viruling anti-Trump.
00:20:37 So we've got Page, Druck, Rosenstein. We've got Mueller, McCabe, Baker, and Pre-Stop identified.
00:20:47 And then you go down to the agent level, and you've got these guys. You've got Case Agent 1.
00:20:55 This was the guy who screwed up the Carter Page FISA warrant. His name is Stephen Soma.
00:21:03 You have another guy, Pientka, and then the guy I call LaForest Gump of the Russia hoax and the anti-Trump activity, the guy who arrested me, Walter Giardina.
00:21:17 And what's important about Giardina is he was one of the initial recipients, Steve, of that phony Steele dossier.
00:21:25 He vetted it, and allegedly Giardina said, oh, that's genuine.
00:21:29 Let's go.
00:21:30 And then later on, whistleblowers allege that he had his laptop erased and things like that.
00:21:36 So the point is that we have an opportunity now.
00:21:40 We know exactly what that investigation said in terms of its opening communications.
00:21:48 We know what the chain of command looks like.
00:21:50 And it's time, and what I call for in the piece is for, at a minimum, subpoenas issued by Grassley's committee, Chuck Grassley on the Senate side, and Jim Jordan on the House.
00:22:03 And Chuck Grassley has been absolutely nailed.
00:22:06 He's been a beast pursuing these kinds of things.
00:22:10 And I fully expect that with the release of these new documents, thanks again, John Solomon, President Trump, we will get moving on this.
00:22:18 And we've got to get moving before. Full stop. Full stop. One last thing. Jordan. Full stop. Got to step up. Jordan. He has not. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. Full stop. Full stop. Full stop. This is like when you got weakest on on Fauci the other day that you thought Fauci should have a civil thing. We've gotten your mind right on that. And there'll be a future announcement about Dr. Dr. Navarro's back on the team.
00:22:42 why are we screwing around with some congressional hearing why are we not going right to main justice
00:22:48 and say give us a special prosecutor special this was a commander in chief this is not something
00:22:54 about bad enough bad as it is about some campaign this is a sitting president they this is a coup
00:23:00 d'etat this is a coup d'etat i don't need jim jordan calling witnesses i'm not interested in
00:23:05 grassy's done a great job i love his staff i'm not interested in it what i'm interested in is
00:23:10 main justice to get up a series of subpoenas let's perp walk these guys into a federal court
00:23:15 and let's start rolling what are we missing here we can't no more no more congressional hearings
00:23:20 on this this was a coup d'etat they've got seven you know all these things from the 1960s seven
00:23:25 days in may and you know the parallax all the conspiracy theory things this is where we actually
00:23:32 have it and poldy through being a hero and solomon in the team through being a hero and trump for
00:23:38 We're pointing them and having their back.
00:23:40 We now have the goods.
00:23:42 No more congressional hearings.
00:23:44 No more talk.
00:23:45 Where is main justice in this?
00:23:47 I want to see some perp walks, subpoenas.
00:23:50 Where are we, Navarro?
00:23:54 Steve, I'm right with you, brother.
00:23:58 Look, it's in DOJ's hands.
00:24:01 They have all the documents.
00:24:03 The FBI has all the documents.
00:24:05 It's not my place sitting here on the White House lawn to tell DOJ what to do.
00:24:12 But you and I, neither one of us, are going to be very surprised if exactly what Steve Bannon is calling for happens very quickly.
00:24:20 Because, look, it's right here.
00:24:22 It's all here.
00:24:24 I understand.
00:24:25 But you go ahead.
00:24:26 You make the pitch, OK?
00:24:28 You make the pitch.
00:24:30 Hang on.
00:24:30 And I'm all for it.
00:24:31 I want to just say, hang on, stop.
00:24:33 I just want to ask you a question, though.
00:24:34 you're you're a phd in harvard and economics you focused on macro you've been in the government
00:24:41 you've been around trump and the government now i don't know 10 or 12 years you're a student of
00:24:46 the federal government and how it works and you're a student of history have you you know all the
00:24:51 stuff the kennedy conspiracies all the things we've been dealing with everything you know wants
00:24:55 to go back in time forget going back in time and seven days of may the kennedy and i we got to get
00:25:00 to the bomb mechanic conspiracy all that put a pin in it we have before us evidence of a coup
00:25:08 against a sitting president and i don't care if that president's bernie sanders or aoc or ossoff
00:25:14 or whoever it could be right they the deep state organized to have a coup against the sitting
00:25:22 president we must hold this accountable and we must do it today and we must do it in public
00:25:28 That's what I'm calling upon, not the Senate committees, not a House committee.
00:25:32 We're beyond that.
00:25:33 The hour is late and we're burning daylight.
00:25:36 Right now, we need action, action, action at the highest level.
00:25:41 And President Trump, I think, has been great to kind of step back from this.
00:25:43 And I can't understand why he's not banging on the table, right?
00:25:47 This is the most certain.
00:25:49 When you told me you were going to do this, I said, amazing.
00:25:51 Somebody needs to do this.
00:25:52 And I appreciate the New York Post for putting this up.
00:25:55 Will you actually name names, sir?
00:25:58 I name names and the case is clear.
00:26:02 I mean, and Steve, the reason why we're a good team, whether I'm in the White House or not, when we go, whatever, I'm telling you all the names.
00:26:12 I'm telling you one of the steps that can be taken.
00:26:14 You're saying exactly what you think needs to be done.
00:26:18 And people are going to listen to that.
00:26:19 I don't see.
00:26:20 Look, one of the biggest disappointments I've had is, what are we, I don't know, 16, 17 months into this administration, and we still haven't perp-walked any of these people that I was talking about.
00:26:34 Yeah, I had my litany going back five, six years, you know, Comey, Clapper, Page, Brennan, Strzok.
00:26:40 Now we got Rosenstein, Priestap, Soma, Pietka, Giardina.
00:26:44 They're all there.
00:26:46 They did crimes against this country. 0.98
00:26:49 Serious friggin' crimes. 0.97
00:26:51 They did treasonous things. 0.98
00:26:52 They need to be held accountable.
00:26:54 You and I are on the same page.
00:26:56 You can tell justice what to do.
00:26:58 I can tell Congress what to do.
00:27:00 That's the separation of powers we've got here, brother.
00:27:03 This is not about Donald Trump.
00:27:06 You understand?
00:27:07 This is about the office.
00:27:09 This is about the office of the president.
00:27:11 Peter, you've got to bounce.
00:27:12 Where do people go?
00:27:13 What's the one holding place where we go to get all your content?
00:27:18 PeterNavarro.com
00:27:21 PeterNavarro.com
00:27:23 You can go to Substack, X, Getter
00:27:26 Truth Social, of course
00:27:30 Instagram, it's all there
00:27:32 And my podcast, Navarro Express
00:27:34 Get it all
00:27:35 And Steve, it's just the beginning of the week
00:27:38 I'm just getting started
00:27:39 Dr. Peter Navarro, thank you
00:27:45 Live from the White House
00:27:46 Appreciate you, sir
00:27:46 Hold me to that
00:27:47 Appreciate that, sir. Will do. Man, oh man, what a way to start. And we still got Lara Logan and Naomi Wolf to go. Hello. That's why I had to break it up. Got to put Natalie tomorrow with the CCP. Short break. Are we seeing some positive movement in all this students in the United States, foreign students? Go to CIS.
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00:29:41 um we're gonna give a lot more play and a lot more push on dr and virus piece also
00:29:51 larry logan's going to join us we're getting the fauci naomi wolf uh the whole fauci thing
00:29:55 um on uh the vaccines the pregnancies all that the miscarriages we're gonna get to all this today
00:30:01 Also on the vaccines, the movement that Bobby has headed up, the huge development.
00:30:07 Yesterday, we're going to get Mary Holland on in the afternoon show.
00:30:10 We're absolutely packed in the afternoon show already.
00:30:13 I want to play, can I play the cut from Mehdi Hassan?
00:30:17 Let's go and play this.
00:30:19 If the midterms don't go Trump's way this fall, is there any world in which Todd Blunt
00:30:25 stands up to Trump if he's asked to find some fake evidence of voter fraud?
00:30:28 Or are we screwed now? 0.99
00:30:30 We're screwed. 0.97
00:30:31 great that's what i suspected it's short and to the point yes 0.95
00:30:38 i love it ty cod and ty cobb what a disaster um let's go okay cis uh george fishman joins us
00:30:52 george does this do a quick reset i want to get into this study um cis what's your area
00:30:59 specialty. CIS is an institution focused on what do you guys do. Obviously, Kerkorian and Todd
00:31:08 Benzman for years have been guests and others on the show. But what your specialty and what is the
00:31:14 institution currently working on? Well, sure. Well, thanks so much for having me. The Center
00:31:20 for Immigration Studies has been the think tank advocating for immigration in America's national
00:31:29 interest, especially lower levels of immigration, legal and illegal, for decades. And I say that
00:31:39 not just because I work at CIS, but for two decades, I was chief counsel of the House
00:31:47 Judiciary Committee's Immigration Subcommittee. And there is no group we had testified more often
00:31:54 when I was chief counsel than the Center for Immigration Studies. So it's really the gold
00:31:59 standard in my view of think tanks pursuing immigration in the national interest. After I
00:32:09 left Congress, I served for a few years in President Trump's first term in the Department
00:32:17 of Homeland Security. And after that ended, I've been with the Center for Immigration Studies
00:32:23 pursuing. I'm a senior legal fellow. I'd certainly love to drop the term senior,
00:32:30 but I guess I'm stuck with it. And I pursue the legal aspects of immigration reform.
00:32:37 Yeah. Okay. And CIS is the gold standard, right? And of course, we're populist nationalists here
00:32:43 at the war room in the MAGA movement. This report, so I've been for years, but particularly
00:32:51 since taking on elon musk uh even before inauguration day about h1b visas and the
00:32:57 scam of h1b visa because it's a total scam and it's got a subset the opt the practical training
00:33:03 but it all stems a lot of this railhead this railhead of this is another big beef i've got 1.00
00:33:09 that we have too many foreign students foreign nationals in american universities particularly
00:33:13 great american universities to to the detriment of uh of kids in the united states whether you're
00:33:19 white hispanic asian american uh black etc we're prioritizing foreigners over american citizens
00:33:28 and american citizens have to come first full stop the the first glimmer of like because i've 0.93
00:33:34 been banging it all got to be shut down it's got to be shut down today now you've just come out
00:33:39 with a report and let me just tell the audience i want to put the report up it's a little dense
00:33:43 right which is fine because it's a report that people are going to predicate policy discussions
00:33:48 over. So it should be dense. What I want to do in this segment is make it a little more accessible.
00:33:54 Your analysis of this situation actually, I think, shows us that there is beginning to be a shaft of
00:34:03 light on this and that President Trump and his team are actually starting to make moves that
00:34:07 maybe are not what the war room is calling for, but at least directionally, they're trying to
00:34:12 get there. Is that correct? And you can back that up with some of your analysis?
00:34:15 I think that is definitely correct. I took a look at the latest student visa data the State
00:34:24 Department publishes on its website and discovered that in 2025, basically last summer, last fall,
00:34:34 the number of student visas for nationals of India and the People's Republic of China, and I
00:34:41 focus on those two countries because the large majority of students coming to U.S. universities
00:34:49 come from India and the People's Republic of China. The number of visas issued, student visas
00:34:55 issued, has fallen dramatically compared to what the trend was, say, over the last decade.
00:35:04 The number of student visas issued to Indians fell by well more than 50 percent.
00:35:10 The number of student visas issued to students from the People's Republic of China fallen not as much, but close to 50 percent.
00:35:20 So dramatic decreases.
00:35:22 And that's even before the regulatory changes the Trump administration has since then instituted, essentially providing that student visas aren't indefinite. You don't get to stay in the U.S. indefinitely on a student visa.
00:35:38 And I think the most important benefits of this dramatic decline, and hopefully it will sustain itself, is first, American national security.
00:35:50 security. You can take it as a given that foreign students, especially graduate students from the 0.98
00:36:00 People's Republic of China who come to the U.S. to study, especially in STEM fields, science,
00:36:06 technology, engineering, math, basically you should add another E into STEM, espionage. 0.85
00:36:12 They're all tasked either voluntarily or involuntarily with committing, with gathering all the sensitive data they can to send back to the Chinese Communist Party, to the People's Liberation Army, whose professed goal is to achieve military supremacy over the United States in anticipation of a future war with the United States.
00:36:39 And it's crazy that we're facilitating their military advances in part through all these students who, again, voluntarily or because of threats to their families, whatever, are committing or gathering sensitive information, whether through espionage, intellectual property theft, etc.
00:37:02 And so it'll be a boon to American national security if those numbers should drop. 0.95
00:37:09 Now, I have advocated that maybe it's time to completely prohibit students from the People's Republic of China, especially in STEM fields, from coming to U.S. universities. 0.97
00:37:20 But putting that aside, a dramatic decline. 0.80
00:37:23 George, George, George, George, hang on. Hang on one second. What will we do? Because obviously the logic is that has to happen and it should like happen this afternoon. So when you advocate for that and you're absolutely a thousand percent correct and we get tons of guys from the intelligence services or the over at the DIA to back you up in D.C.
00:37:44 that's an open secret known as a fact it's one of the reasons natalie winters expose of military 0.94
00:37:49 officials being in bed with the ccp is so shocking what change would we need to do in your mind to
00:37:57 this afternoon ban all particularly chinese nationals from and by the way i'm not saying 0.96
00:38:04 all these kids and george is not either these kids are spied but they're forced by the system
00:38:08 to become espionage quasi-assets, what would it take for us to do today, this afternoon,
00:38:16 to ban 100% any Chinese national from getting into an American university in a STEM field
00:38:24 in a graduate program, sir?
00:38:26 President Trump has the power which he has used for the travel ban in the first term,
00:38:33 which the Supreme Court has basically said he has almost unlimited discretion to use
00:38:40 to ban the entry into the United States of any group of aliens which would
00:38:47 harm the national interest. President Trump could do it with signing what's called a 212F
00:38:57 proclamation and that in and of itself uh would do it in one fell swoop well i think the 212f by
00:39:07 the way which under so i think the 212f is how we start the whole asylum it's one of the tools he
00:39:12 used i believe on the first afternoon of his administration to stop the with combination
00:39:18 with the army and other material means to stop the flow of the invasion under biden so hang on
00:39:24 for one second i want to play this clip that came up this morning uh from one of the smartest
00:39:29 reporters over the new york times about the article two powers of the president let's go
00:39:33 and play it i think the big tell here was who did bill cassidy consult at the very end of this
00:39:39 process bill right bill bar bill bar may have said donald trump's election claims were but bill
00:39:45 bar very much supports donald trump's vision of executive power and that's the takeaway my big
00:39:51 takeaway from the entire Blanche saga in the Senate is, this is a party divided on all kinds
00:39:56 of different lines. Most of these people in private don't really like Donald Trump. They
00:40:00 don't like the direction he's taking them in, but what are they united by? They are united by
00:40:05 a shared faith and a powerful executive. I think that's something that's hiding in plain sight
00:40:10 that most observers of the current political scene aren't really looking at.
00:40:14 okay not here the war room it's something we have worked on for all those years in the wilderness
00:40:22 this is the article 3 project and and project 2025 of the really the true powers of the office
00:40:29 of the president both chief executive of the u.s government he's commander-in-chief of the armed
00:40:33 forces uh he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the u.s government and
00:40:38 And as his role as CEO, he can hire anybody, fire anybody who's got the ability to use
00:40:44 to basically with the stroke of the pen, change national policy.
00:40:48 So that's what you're calling.
00:40:49 You're saying, hey, if he did a 212F and he did this afternoon, we could 100% ban all 0.53
00:40:55 Chinese nationals from being in graduate STEM programs in universities in the United 0.86
00:41:01 States, George?
00:41:03 He could.
00:41:04 So Congress has given him that power, and the Supreme Court, in my view, would uphold it.
00:41:10 Maybe not the Ninth Circuit.
00:41:12 When it gets to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court would uphold that power, just as it upheld his ability to use 212F very vigorously in the past.
00:41:26 George, I want to go back, and I'm going to hold you through this break.
00:41:28 We're going to be a little jammed today because breaking news on some pharmaceutical things we want to get into.
00:41:34 Larry Logan and Amy Wolfe are going to join us also.
00:41:37 George, I want to go back to make sure the audience understands this.
00:41:41 The drop in Indian students, 50 percent, in CCP students, almost 50 percent.
00:41:47 What actions were actually taken, do you believe, that actually caused that?
00:41:51 What has been the cause of this?
00:41:55 You know, that's a great question.
00:41:57 It could be concerns about, you know, coming to the United States and their rights as foreign students and immigrants under the Trump administration.
00:42:12 It could be because instructions were given to consular officers overseas to be much more particular about vetting aliens seeking student visas.
00:42:27 It's probably a combination of those two, I would surmise.
00:42:31 so you think it was it's just general concern you can't point to any you can't point to any
00:42:39 direct action you think it's just kind of the was it the zeitgeist uh the zeitgeist that did this
00:42:44 it's it's not any specific action you can point to uh well i mean there have been executive actions
00:42:51 uh on foreign students but the biggest one of those took place basically after um after these
00:42:59 numbers came out these are numbers from the summer and fall of 2025 so it'll be very interesting to
00:43:06 see what happens in the summer and fall of this year when the numbers come out because that's
00:43:12 when most pieces are issued yeah hang on one second we're gonna take a short commercial break
00:43:18 positive news from the gold standard the center for immigration study on the situation with
00:43:25 foreign students taking the place
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00:44:48 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:44:53 George Fishman from CIS is with us.
00:44:56 So, George, and I want to make sure if Moe and Elizabeth and Grace can push this out,
00:45:03 the War Room Posse would dive into this, immerse yourself, and then let's push it out.
00:45:07 Let's be a force multiplier today. 0.92
00:45:09 Is the drop in the Indian students, and particularly the CCP students, 0.99
00:45:14 are we seeing that now is that is it manifesting itself in this opt because this is where they are 0.99
00:45:22 stealing jobs first off the opt system that takes these students and floods them into american
00:45:29 back door so the h1b problem is is magnified there should be zero zero foreign students allowed to
00:45:39 and underwrite this with your tax dollar, this whole program should be shut down.
00:45:43 It should go zero.
00:45:44 It's unacceptable you got one taking a job from an American kid. 0.88
00:45:49 Unacceptable. 1.00
00:45:50 I totally agree.
00:45:51 Are we seeing that all?
00:45:52 You agree with that, George Fishman?
00:45:55 I do agree 100%. 1.00
00:45:59 And the biggest travesty is the modern OPT program, supposedly for foreign students, 0.96
00:46:07 who, by the way, have already graduated.
00:46:08 So they're really not students anymore. There's no basis for it in the immigration law. And the Bush and Obama administrations essentially did it because Microsoft asked them to do it to get around the H-1B numerical cap.
00:46:26 Congress put a cap.
00:46:28 As bad as the H-1B program is, at least there's a numerical cap.
00:46:33 Microsoft said, well, we can't get all the H-1Bs we want because of Congress. 0.57
00:46:38 Let us do an end run around Congress through the OPT. 0.89
00:46:44 And Michael Schurtoff agreed.
00:46:47 Basically, if you read the regulation, it's out in the open.
00:46:52 It's not a secret.
00:46:52 But OPT, in its modern form, was created to let corporations, let big users of foreign students evade the H-1B cap on supposedly skilled foreign workers.
00:47:12 It has to go. All of it. Are we seeing any numbers come through since we've had almost a 50 percent drop in CCP?
00:47:20 Are you seeing drops in OPT?
00:47:23 Is it too early to tell that?
00:47:25 There are no numbers publicly released yet that we can look at.
00:47:29 But given that 70% of the foreign college students, you know, post-graduation, post-finishing their course of studies, who are working for companies under OPT, 70% come from India and the People's Republic of China.
00:47:46 So undoubtedly, it's going to have a big impact.
00:47:49 We just don't have the numbers yet. The one thing I would urge DHS is please release immigration data as quickly as possible so everyone can see and judge what's going on and what's been successful and what has not been successful.
00:48:08 there's been a lot there's a drudge link to a story about the immigrant about the immigration
00:48:13 numbers now this deals i think with a democrat and it's you know they're trying to spin it
00:48:17 against president trump but do you feel as a guy that deals with this every day are we getting
00:48:23 uh the information we need particularly on deportations mass deportations uh you know
00:48:30 raids on uh on these employers that don't have america's best interests in mind do you think
00:48:36 we're getting the OPT are we getting a steady leave aside the articles that are slanted to
00:48:41 Democrats has taken hits on President Trump do you believe as someone that's got a track record
00:48:46 of being pretty uh even-handed do you think that you're getting access to these numbers that we
00:48:52 should be able to get access to to do analytics like you've been doing I think the numbers it
00:48:59 would be great if they could come out much more quickly and for instance on on removals on
00:49:06 deportations there's a huge difference between someone who's apprehended at the border and you
00:49:12 know sent sent out and someone who's you know come here illegally okay okay let me let me just
00:49:19 the war is position on this hang on hang on full stop apprehended at the border but the coast guard
00:49:24 everything and the fabulous job of doing the border to seal the border and stop the border
00:49:28 that ain't a deportation that cannot count in a stat that is that's at the border and you
00:49:33 you don't that's not into okay deport mass deportations deal with internal
00:49:39 enforcement interior enforcement okay and you agree with me that they're they're they're
00:49:44 confusing these numbers now and okay what dhs has to understand and the people and look and people
00:49:51 always criticize let me cut to the chase this movement was founded on this very issue the
00:49:57 people in this audience, blue collar, middle class that have full time jobs, understand this
00:50:02 at a level of sophistication and they're not going to be fooled by it. We want mass deportations and 0.87
00:50:08 we want them now. You want to have a sweeping victory in the midterms? Don't do what Blair 0.72
00:50:13 and that crowd wants to do with the phony polling they've showed you that you can't talk about mass
00:50:17 deportations. The exact opposite. If you want your base to turn out, if you want to get lower
00:50:23 information voters, lower propensity voters who don't show up unless Donald Trump's on the top of
00:50:29 the ticket they can actually see. You hammer this and hammer this and hammer this. And please do not
00:50:36 insult the intelligence of the MAGA movement by putting out phony stats. Brother Fishman,
00:50:42 would you agree with me on that? I totally agree that what is important is removals of people 1.00
00:50:51 from the interior of the united states and we need a lot more clarity and this is going back
00:50:58 decades uh on of the removals which are the real removals meaning the removals of persons from the
00:51:06 interior of the united states totally agree on that because that's george i want everybody to
00:51:13 read this report that is what is crucial that's it's a it's a foundational element and people
00:51:19 are very sophisticated particularly people that don't our audience and others in the mega movement
00:51:24 that don't have full time to spend on this this is why we rely upon cis and honest brokers like
00:51:29 yourself where do people go for you to cis where they go to your social media i want everybody to
00:51:34 read this report and get acquainted with all of your other work brother fishman well i i periodically
00:51:42 have snarky posts on X, but putting that aside, Center for Immigration Studies website,
00:51:50 cis.org, you know, everything I and all the other, all the other others at CIS, you can go and look
00:52:01 at everything they've ever written. It's all there. And, you know, for better or worse, it's all
00:52:08 there. George, thank you so much. Thank you for doing the work, the hard work of this report and
00:52:15 staying on top of it and putting your country first. And most importantly, George Fishman,
00:52:21 you're putting young Americans first. Got to sort this mess out. We cannot be giving breaks 0.98
00:52:27 to the young people around the world when we've got to prioritize American citizens.
00:52:34 young american citizens let's make sure they feel they're getting a deal okay not the shaft a deal
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