Bannon's War Room - August 25, 2026


Episode 5614: Mail In Ballots Go Back To Court On Wednesday; Continued Fight For Mass Deportations


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00:00:00.000 He posted on social media earlier today. I want to read what he said. He said the bottom line,
00:00:03.760 Trump lost the military campaign and now he's desperate. So in his humility, humiliating defeat,
00:00:09.440 he's selling this fake economic pressure to keep up the impression we're still fighting. But the
00:00:13.700 war is basically over. Tragically, Iran won. This is all window dressing. Is that how you see it? 0.99
00:00:20.240 I see it a little differently, Anderson. Certainly the United States has not won this war. But know
00:00:26.500 would I say Iran has been a great victor either. This is a country battling now 70 percent inflation,
00:00:34.400 triple digit inflation when it comes to food items. It's one of the most isolated countries
00:00:39.180 in the world, both politically and economically. Its population largely despises it. And so over
00:00:47.960 the last 47 years since the 1979 revolution, this regime has really only compromised on two
00:00:54.640 occasions. In 1988, when it ended the Iran-Iraq war and then the 2015 Obama nuclear deal. And
00:01:01.840 it's been when it's faced almost existential economic pressure, coupled with a clear diplomatic
00:01:07.080 exit. So I think what the Trump administration is trying to do now is ramp up that economic
00:01:11.960 pressure. But we don't see any signs that they have a clear diplomatic strategy in mind.
00:01:17.360 He didn't say China a single time during its address today. And folks should remember one 1.00
00:01:21.960 year ago, Donald Trump tried to do a trade war, 145 percent tariffs. China said, OK, we'll do
00:01:26.740 125 percent tariffs in return and we'll cut off your access to rare earth minerals. Donald Trump
00:01:31.240 and the Trump administration stood down. Right. Is there any teeth behind what Scott Besson today
00:01:35.380 said? Is there any country, including China, that takes your analysis is exactly the same as mine.
00:01:39.860 There's no teeth there. And the reason there's no teeth there really redounds to China. You played
00:01:44.520 Mark Carney standing up to Trump. And that's that's great for him. That's great for his politics.
00:01:49.280 It certainly makes sense in terms of the Canadian outlook, but they do have they do depend a lot more on on our economy than we on them.
00:01:57.400 China, on the other hand, Trump has not been able to bully China.
00:02:01.300 He has stepped down every time they've come back at him.
00:02:04.360 Why? Because China exports some things to us that we desperately need.
00:02:08.420 You've heard of rare earths. These are critical minerals that go into our electronics, our defense goods, our missiles.
00:02:13.480 And China is well aware of the bargaining power, the leverage they have over Donald Trump in this regard.
00:02:20.260 And what you just heard, there was Scott Besson purring like a pussycat as soon as somebody raised China,
00:02:25.240 because he knows that that's a key linchpin in going after Iran economically. 0.78
00:02:31.100 Can't do it.
00:02:32.220 This is what, can we read from Justice Jackson?
00:02:34.700 Absolutely.
00:02:35.060 She said denying this stay, this is in her dissent, denying this stay request preserves the status quo in the fraught period ahead of a national election, granting it, on the other hand, risks significant harm, including continued affronts to the plaintiff state's sovereign interests, a strain on their pocketbooks and the possibility that last minute rule changes will cause confusion on the ground, jeopardizing the public's interest in a fair and orderly election cycle.
00:02:59.900 Absolutely. And she's right, because the confusion is the point.
00:03:03.860 Donald Trump is going to lose on this. And even this Supreme Court had to say, and you read it and I have it highlighted here, that, you know, what they have done today isn't saying that what Donald Trump is trying to do is lawful.
00:03:16.780 And he has been losing in the court consistently, including before all kinds of judges on his attempt to write into the Constitution authority that is simply not there for the president.
00:03:26.140 So he's going to lose on this. But this, as Justice Jackson says, puts everything in chaos.
00:03:32.900 It causes confusion around the country. Do we get to vote by mail? You said you had a friend we were just talking earlier today that was all of a sudden confused about what this means.
00:03:42.540 And that is the point of this administration. They do not want the people's voices to be heard and they want to confuse us in advance of the election.
00:03:50.840 And the Supreme Court just let them do that. But I do want to be very clear to everyone listening tonight.
00:03:55.720 The Supreme Court, no court, has said that what Donald Trump has done here is lawful.
00:04:00.220 No, but they just said he could do it.
00:04:01.680 I mean, what's your point is right, but they didn't stop him.
00:04:04.840 So not stopping him, if I don't tell you no, I might as well have said yes.
00:04:08.440 But I want to be very clear because people are afraid and they're scared in this moment and they need accurate information.
00:04:14.700 What the Supreme Court did today was it was a timing issue.
00:04:17.300 It was in a win for the administration on a debater's point about whether the state sued too early.
00:04:22.300 I agree with Justice Jackson and I agree with the states that this is way too fragile of a system.
00:04:27.280 The right to vote is way too sacred to to have all this confusion, which is what they've created.
00:04:32.900 But to be very clear, the president will lose on that.
00:04:36.480 When when do you expect?
00:04:37.900 I believe that lawsuits will be filed the minute that the rule finally goes into effect.
00:04:42.900 We believe that's Wednesday. Yeah, I think that you will see those because all the Supreme Court said was oops, too early.
00:04:48.160 come back. Now, I don't agree with what the majority of the Supreme Court did here because
00:04:51.540 exactly of what you're saying. And I feel the outrage and I feel it too on behalf of hundreds
00:04:56.000 of millions of people in this country. But the bottom line is this is a debater's point. This
00:05:00.600 is not any type of a substantive win for the White House. And their attempt to have the American
00:05:05.240 people believe that they're winning right now is all about trying to confuse people and get people
00:05:09.900 I have one more question. The Supreme Court comes back and says you actually can't do that.
00:05:13.600 They're going to call foul and lie. And then what happens? Well, I think it's what they've
00:05:18.000 been saying because they've not hid their intent here at all. So let's go back a couple of months
00:05:21.720 ago or earlier this year. Trump is speaking to a bunch of Republicans and he says, we're going to
00:05:26.460 mess with the mail-in ballots because it will guarantee Republicans win. He didn't say secure
00:05:31.000 the election. He used the word guarantee for a reason because it gets to this larger picture
00:05:35.000 and explains what they're saying, because we shouldn't ignore that what's happening with
00:05:39.500 this court and the mail-in ballots is part of a multi-pronged strategy to chip away at the
00:05:44.420 integrity of the election, to dissuade people from voting, to manipulate and work it, to basically
00:05:49.400 steal the vote. And so what they're saying now is not enough. What they're saying now is success
00:05:55.760 because the friction is a part of it. And they're going to ignore the ripeness claim. They don't
00:06:01.080 care about the procedural part of it. What they see is another win for Trump. And that's going
00:06:04.960 to be the narrative that comes out of this. But they're not going to think that's enough. They're
00:06:09.120 going to think it's more. Any more roadblocks, any more friction, that's going to be an issue.
00:06:12.680 And to just paint a larger picture, 25 to 30 percent of Americans are voting by mail.
00:06:17.600 I mean, it's not like a handful of people here that we're talking about.
00:06:20.220 It's a really large number of folks.
00:06:23.220 That's exactly right.
00:06:24.220 It will have a just the confusion, the disorientation will affect people's brains.
00:06:29.500 And that's the goal is to put friction into the system.
00:06:32.040 So you pick off people one in here and at the same time, get a little bit of wind behind the sails so that you can do a national emergency so that you can put more things out there.
00:06:40.360 He doesn't have to win, as everybody is new at this table.
00:06:42.680 They had a strategy that was specifically designed not to argue the merits of what they're doing, but to say it's too early to sue and then sort of run out the clock.
00:06:51.740 That thing that their final rule came out Friday night after the courts closed, run out the clock so that it's too late to even try to stop them.
00:06:58.060 And that's where Simone's point is. And they're doing it in this lane.
00:07:00.740 But we shouldn't ignore that. It's part of a larger front and they're doing it in all those fronts simultaneously.
00:07:04.820 We should be very clear again what the rule is that we're expecting on Wednesday.
00:07:08.160 And the reason the litigation was filed ahead of time was knowing that the U.S. Postal Service could try to put this rule out as close to the time in which mail ballots started going out as they possibly could, because Donald Trump and the Trump administration have been explicitly clear that they wanted to restrict mail-in voting.
00:07:23.340 And what this rule will do will require states to turn over a list of their registered voters.
00:07:30.460 And the federal government will provide a list to the U.S. Postal Service about the eligible citizen voters that are allowed to be sent mail ballots.
00:07:38.580 So that calls into question all of the potential disputes.
00:07:41.940 Is it thousands of names?
00:07:42.780 Are they going to be going to people's names?
00:07:44.220 This is not something that exists on the fringes.
00:07:46.220 So the sentiment that you're feeling is sort of the kinetic energy that these extremists now have taken over.
00:07:52.500 used Fruit of the Poison Chair. They've all eaten from the Fruit of the Poison Chair. They all
00:07:56.040 believe this. This is where they are. This is their perspective, and they're going to be willing
00:07:59.780 to push it. And while they're doing this, from their angle, it's win-win, right? Because they
00:08:04.560 either win in the courts, or if they don't win in the courts, they use the laws of the courts to say,
00:08:08.080 this is why we need to do a national emergency. This is why we need to have people outside of 0.92
00:08:12.420 voting, outside of polling stations, right? So either way, they look at it as we get here or
00:08:17.340 we escalate. And that's because the momentum right now, the thing that is driving it is the
00:08:22.160 thing that used to be on the edges a decade or more ago and is now front and center really
00:08:26.800 steering the ship and it's it is where the momentum is it's why that feeling you have is so palpable
00:08:31.800 tuesday 25 august year of our lord 2026 that at the end is angelo corazon the head of media
00:08:42.800 matters very bright guy always puts it in perspective uh i've got the viceroy with us
00:08:48.820 So, Vice Roy, a total firestorm last night and this morning on MSNBC is CNN.
00:08:57.480 They're completely, totally losing it.
00:09:00.320 I got to have the Vice Roy put this in perspective.
00:09:03.280 Just let's go.
00:09:04.080 What in the hell happened?
00:09:05.080 I tell you, here's the buried lead.
00:09:07.040 What the problem is they admit that 25 to 30 percent of their people vote by mail.
00:09:12.200 And that's a problem we should never have.
00:09:14.360 This should be absentee ballots.
00:09:16.020 this is the way they this is one of their the most perfected way they've got for stealing elections
00:09:21.800 as we saw from 2020 can you walk through exactly what the run-up to this was what the supreme court
00:09:28.160 said what the weather what the wednesday rule is going to be from the postal service sir
00:09:33.180 president trump issued an executive order he ordered the postmaster general of the united
00:09:40.680 States to work with the Attorney General of the United States to work with the Secretary of
00:09:46.260 Homeland Security to come up with a plan to ensure we have election integrity, to ensure that
00:09:54.200 non-citizens and other illegal aliens are not getting mail ballots through the U.S. Postal
00:10:02.360 Service. When you commit election fraud through mail, that is mail fraud. That's a federal crime.
00:10:08.620 So President Trump is telling his key officials to work together, come up with the plan, and the plan includes working with DHS, coming up with a list of citizens, non-citizens, comparing that list against these state voter rolls, and then telling the Postal Service that you can't mail ballots to non-citizens.
00:10:33.600 That's a violation of federal law for non-citizens to vote in federal elections.
00:10:38.680 Of course, these Democrat governors, 23 Democrat governors in the D.C. mayor's office ran to this Obama judge in Boston, this left-wing whack job Obama judge in Boston who issued an injunction against this executive order.
00:10:57.800 The First Circuit Court of Appeals, another left-wing court, went along with this Obama judge.
00:11:04.520 The Supreme Court, in this 6-3 ruling on the emergency docket, lifted the injunction, said that the president can move forward with his executive branch officials and come up with a plan because these Democrat governors, these 23 Democrat governors and the D.C. Democrat mayor, don't have standing.
00:11:26.820 They're not injured by the president telling his executive branch officials to come up with a plan.
00:11:33.480 So what the plan looks like is going to happen, you're going to see final rules out of the Postal Service.
00:11:39.220 Tomorrow, it looks like, and other agencies where they're going to put barcodes on these envelopes and these ballots for election integrity.
00:11:49.980 So when these ballots go through, we can actually see if these federal elections are being flooded with illegal voters.
00:11:59.000 Well, we know that they are because the Democrats are fighting so hard not only to stop the Save America Act with proof of citizenship and voter ID that has the support of 80 percent of Americans, including a super majority of Democrats, minorities, black Americans who Democrats pretend aren't smart enough to figure out how to get a voter ID like everyone else. 0.73
00:12:19.680 When in reality, they want their illegal aliens to vote. But now they are ferociously fighting President Trump when he's just trying to have his postal service make sure that these postal workers are not carrying out mail fraud on behalf of the Democrat Party.
00:12:36.860 So we'll see what happens. As the Supreme Court said, there's not injury now for these governors. There could be a plaintiff who claims injury after the final rule comes out, but it's kind of interesting. What exactly is their injury?
00:12:52.020 If you are a non-citizen, you can't vote in federal elections, and the states can send out these ballots if they want to do their mass voter fraud, if they want to keep doing these mass ballots, send it out via UPS, send it out via FedEx, send it out via carrier pigeon.
00:13:10.820 But you just can't use the Postal Service to commit voter fraud for your mail fraud, with mail fraud for your voter fraud.
00:13:20.720 So this is a big win for President Trump.
00:13:24.560 This is a big win for election integrity.
00:13:27.700 But this is certainly not the last court's action on this matter.
00:13:34.700 A couple things, and I'd like you to stick to the break.
00:13:38.000 the emergency docket most people say hey the supreme court gives all the big cases at the
00:13:43.540 end of june and gets takes off out of town and they're not back to the what the first monday
00:13:48.200 in october i think it is this emergency docket why do we have rulings by the supreme court in
00:13:53.640 the interim well because the these these democrat judges like this obama judge in boston issued this
00:14:00.860 clearly illegal injunction she didn't resolve the case on the merits she issued this illegal 0.98
00:14:06.280 injunction on behalf of these 23 Democrat governors and the Democrat mayor of D.C. when 1.00
00:14:12.320 they didn't have the standing to sue. They didn't have injury, right? You have to have injury and
00:14:16.320 facts to have Article III standing under our U.S. Constitution. If you don't have standing,
00:14:21.900 if you don't have injured plaintiffs, the courts don't have the jurisdiction to hear the case.
00:14:26.020 That's what the Supreme Court just told this Obama judge in Boston. You had to do this on
00:14:31.480 the emergency docket because this whack job judge put an injunction on the president of the United
00:14:37.440 States that he couldn't order executive branch officials to come up with a plan. That is a
00:14:42.460 serious violation of the separation of powers. It's clearly unconstitutional.
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00:16:17.820 uh folks we're absolutely uh packed today uh every second so um i'm gonna have to
00:16:24.900 rip through some of these things mike to go back to you this is i consider this the equivalent of
00:16:30.140 like ice at polling booths if you're an american citizen you got nothing to worry about if you're
00:16:35.120 not an american say if you're foreign national it's here in one of these bogus visa or um
00:16:40.420 immigration plans and or your illegal alien you should worry big league um and people should
00:16:46.140 we're here, but I kind of get a feeling this is temporary. Walk me through what's your view,
00:16:50.640 the vice versa's view of what's going to happen here. Well, first of all, it's pretty telling
00:16:55.180 that the Democrat party is so worked up over the fact that we want to make sure that the people who
00:17:02.120 are voting in these elections matches up with a citizenship database, and we're not mailing
00:17:08.460 ballots to people who are not on that citizenship database. These people can still vote, right? If
00:17:15.320 If you're if even if you don't get a ballot mailed to you, you can go to a polling place.
00:17:20.280 You can do early voting. You can show up the old fashioned way on Election Day.
00:17:24.460 But as you said, Steve, it's when the Democrats are saying that 25 to 30 percent of their voters are voting by mail and they're fighting tooth and nail to make sure that we do not have any accountability for noncitizens voting. 0.69
00:17:38.780 It's very obvious that Democrats, their whole game plan, their whole Democrat base now is noncitizens. 0.66
00:17:44.900 Right. They're relying on non-citizens to rig and steal elections. 0.89
00:17:49.220 Amen. 0.99
00:17:49.480 Mendami in New York City.
00:17:50.880 He didn't win New York from citizens. 0.65
00:17:52.840 He won New York from non-citizens. 0.85
00:17:54.120 So here's what I think will happen. 1.00
00:17:56.160 Amen.
00:17:56.540 Is the Postal Service, DHS, maybe the DOJ issues final rules this week, maybe tomorrow.
00:18:04.620 And then a Democrat plaintiff will pretend like they're going to be injured and they're going to run to a Democrat judge and maybe get another Democrat injunction.
00:18:11.680 And then we'll see if the Supreme Court can get that fixed quickly so the president can move forward with election integrity to make sure that Democrats are not rigging and stealing our elections again by having their illegal aliens, non-citizens illegally vote in our elections.
00:18:33.480 American elections are for Americans. And I would just say this as a final note to this, Steve.
00:18:39.260 Remember that when you intentionally commit voter fraud through our postal service, that is mail fraud.
00:18:49.140 And every U.S. attorney around the country needs to work with the postal inspectors, with the FBI, the other federal law enforcement,
00:18:58.520 and start investigating and charging these democrat officials and operatives with mail
00:19:05.100 fraud for abusing our postal service to commit election fraud should we um go to sleep and say
00:19:15.920 hey it was six three so we got six during the court to sort this thing out or is that the six
00:19:21.240 three just on procedure and process not on the substance of these mail-in ballots and the
00:19:27.860 citizens? Should we lull ourselves to sleep that we got this no matter what? Or is this still in
00:19:33.520 play? This is very much still in play. It's still going to be very difficult for the president to
00:19:42.740 get this system in place before the midterm elections because new Democrat plaintiffs are
00:19:49.220 going to run to new Democrat judges and get injunctions and try to run out the clock.
00:19:54.280 Democrats know their whole business model is illegal aliens mass voting for Democrat politicians. 0.60
00:20:03.120 That is the Democrat Party's business model.
00:20:06.920 That's how they make their money.
00:20:08.000 That's how they earn and use their power is through mass voter fraud.
00:20:13.340 And they know that if we have a postal service that is not going to participate in that mass voter fraud, the Democrat Party is not going to win elections.
00:20:22.960 last thing they've already started on the left the the they've got to redo the supreme court
00:20:30.520 restructure the supreme but this is another example they're using is they got to pack the
00:20:34.000 court your thoughts on that uh they they well that's that should wake up the war room posse
00:20:40.380 because if the democrats take back the house and the senate uh this year because the war room
00:20:47.100 posse wants to sit at home, we need to get out and vote, then the Democrats will block any
00:20:53.300 Supreme Court, lower federal court slots, replacements for the next two years. If they
00:20:59.660 win the trifecta in 2028, the White House, the House and the Senate, they've already said this
00:21:04.860 publicly. Believe them for what they say. They will pack the Supreme Court. They will pack it
00:21:10.020 with left-wing radicals. They will add D.C., Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands as Democrat states
00:21:16.460 with two, four, six new Democrat voters.
00:21:20.060 They will open up our border.
00:21:21.500 They will end ICE. 0.81
00:21:23.660 They will give amnesty and citizenship
00:21:26.300 to 50 million, maybe more, illegal aliens. 0.69
00:21:30.300 They will give out welfare. 0.98
00:21:32.260 We will be American slaves to illegal aliens 0.99
00:21:36.720 because those are going to be the Democrats' 1.00
00:21:39.140 new constituency.
00:21:40.480 Americans are toast. 0.93
00:21:41.960 Our God-given rights to speak, to worship, 0.97
00:21:45.460 to associate, to protect ourselves, are going to be out the door. They're going to take away
00:21:50.080 our Second Amendment rights, and then we are toast as American citizens when we are conquered 1.00
00:21:56.300 by the Democrats, Islamists, and other third worlders who the Democrats want to use to replace 1.00
00:22:02.740 American voters. Mike, where do people go for Article III to get up to speed on all this 0.95
00:22:09.020 and start taking action sir article three projects.org article number three project.org
00:22:16.120 donates but only what you can afford follow us on social media and as steve says the war room
00:22:21.540 posse superpower is action action action so uh thank you very much we need to get engaged for
00:22:29.640 this midterm election we need to show up and vote because if we don't we are going to be
00:22:35.220 cooked as a country. Canvas, all of it. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate you. Thank you. As always,
00:22:43.340 the Vice-Royer. Matt and Mac, the coalition is one of the largest groups in the country dealing
00:22:48.460 with voter integrity of these issues. You look at the mail-in ballot and say, hey, look, this is
00:22:52.020 great. It's the first step. I don't see a national security executive memo yet, but give me the
00:22:57.220 punch list of what the mantra is for the coalition of what needs to happen, what we need.
00:23:01.920 So first off, I think folks look at what Trump is doing in deconstructing the election fraud machine.
00:23:10.060 And this ruling or this effort in the Supreme Court, it's necessary but insufficient because the election ecosystem is a system comprised of registration, validation, checking out the polls, tabulation and reporting.
00:23:23.320 This really hits just one aspect of it. If you do only that, the cheating will metastasize like it has in other parts of our election system.
00:23:33.000 So it's very critical that I think the president, in our opinion, eventually he's going to have to take executive action to finally deconstruct this rigging of elections.
00:23:46.220 And I commend folks to look at the book Vote Scam in the 1990s and the words and interviews that these authors had presented.
00:23:54.760 Vote rigging, election rigging is big business.
00:24:01.240 Matt, the storm summit is going to take place.
00:24:05.020 A lot of patriots are gathering. We've only got 100 tickets left, I think, or maybe under 100 tickets.
00:24:09.660 Where do people go? I think today is also the last day you can lock in a cheap or cheaper hotel room.
00:24:15.660 I want to give a hat tip to the Ahern people. They're just spectacular in support of the MAGA cause and President Trump. Where do they go for all of it, Matt?
00:24:24.820 Yes, sir. Then go to stormsummit.us, stormsummit.us, get your ticket, get your registrations at the hotels.
00:24:30.960 And again, this is the last day for the Sahara, for the Stratosphere, for the discounted group rates.
00:24:40.820 This day only is the last day to make those reservations and get locked in those reduced rates, Steve.
00:24:46.760 And we're looking forward to you and the whole posse coming out here.
00:24:51.460 We're having a big turnout.
00:24:52.580 Thank you, Matt and Mick.
00:24:53.800 once again national security emergency memorandum needs to happen because you ain't going to pass
00:25:02.920 the save america act and it's obvious now this fight in the court they're going to drag this
00:25:06.580 one out i think the viceroy gave us good advice there good counsel talking about elections uh
00:25:13.140 brother ben harnwell uh we've shipped bay hundreds of billions of dollars there's going
00:25:20.120 me report out tomorrow by the way how the ukrainians in this new business line they've got
00:25:24.040 uh of advanced drones are dealing right now with the enemies of the united states
00:25:29.740 and supplying drones them i'm gonna have one of the top experts in the country come on and
00:25:34.900 address that but but haven't been lectured to by our betters in the european union being lectured
00:25:41.420 by the folks on msnbc and rachel meta and that entire crowd uh their poster boy for all things
00:25:48.320 good zelinski you know we're sitting over here fighting trying to get a fair election and not
00:25:52.740 having foreigners uh or illegal aliens vote in our elections is zelinski how why is this guy so
00:25:59.960 bulletproof on having to face the voters when there's clearly a large majority in ukraine that
00:26:07.400 want to turf him out sir why is he so bulletproof um is an answer i can't give you and i probably
00:26:18.300 probably goes some way into that. If we want to find out, then we'll have to wait for the regime
00:26:23.940 in Ukraine to forego in, open the filing cabinets and have a look and see what's hidden in there.
00:26:31.020 How he's able to avoid elections is simply a constitutional thing. There is some misinformation
00:26:35.400 going around suggesting that it was Zelensky himself who changed the constitution to stop
00:26:42.280 there being elections during wartime. That's not true. That predates Zelensky. But the war
00:26:49.920 isn't in any obvious sense of petering out. There's still plenty of Ukrainians to be pushed up to the 0.97
00:26:59.220 front line to die. The UK, the new Prime Minister Andy Burnham went over and kissed the ring, one 1.00
00:27:07.120 of his first formal acts as prime minister normally and traditionally steve in the uk the
00:27:12.560 new prime minister would obviously go and see the king of england these days they know where
00:27:16.680 the real power is and they get the first plane out to kiev interestingly i know we're heading
00:27:22.760 into a break interestingly there's a lot taking place in ukraine right now specifically to do
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00:30:20.920 is the mentor of scott besant for many years at a hedge fund he's got a brutal
00:30:26.500 wall street journal editorial op-ed today and a ton of news stories saying that scott besant's
00:30:33.320 doing the wrong thing about trying to uh buy uh bonds or try to somehow work the ropes or work
00:30:41.360 the refs on uh the long-term interest rates and long-term treasuries he's saying hey that's the
00:30:46.200 that's the basic guiding guiding light of uh of the capital markets and really the conscious
00:30:53.280 the conscience of the capital markets for the u.s treasury and the u.s government
00:30:59.020 but when you cut to the heart of it i'll do more of this tonight in the five o'clock when you cut
00:31:03.980 to the heart of it what stanley's talking about or stan's talking about is his thing is hey it's
00:31:09.680 too much federal spending these deficits are too big and we're having a problem financing the
00:31:13.320 deficits as we've said on the war room for years now starting with the illegitimate biden regime
00:31:19.520 and it's correct but that's i mean what scott's trying to do is another tool in the toolbox
00:31:27.660 clearly we have to cut federal spending but it's the radical democrats that want to have
00:31:33.160 the uh to open the spigots ben harnwell we're gonna we're gonna have another fight and there's
00:31:39.380 going to be another couple of you watch they're going to try to sneak in a couple of hundred
00:31:42.900 billion dollars to fund this fiasco over in uh over in ukraine so more people get killed in this
00:31:50.100 fight that's going on in the eastern speaking russian border i think now for what six years
00:31:54.640 or so mike pence is over the judas pence over there over the weekend lecturing us about how
00:32:00.900 we had to do that we're going to have such painful recommended cuts that this should be one that's so
00:32:07.380 easy not another penny nothing should go to ukraine if they want to buy weapons and arms
00:32:13.560 with british money and french money and italian money let those citizens step up to the plate and
00:32:20.100 do it americans don't get six weeks off in august and you know for vacation they don't get free
00:32:26.420 medical they don't have free college all the benefits they ain't working a 40-hour week
00:32:31.200 like uh the europeans uh if the european citizens want to do it then get the money
00:32:37.040 to ukraine and him but i will buy the weapons for us but no more charity to the ukrainians sir
00:32:41.840 yeah i'm just sort of seeing how that's going to play out in congress that argument which is 0.84
00:32:48.520 of course absolutely right but there are a bunch of psychopaths um sociopathic overlords i think
00:32:54.420 we used the term um and they're simply going to say well you know however right steve bannon that
00:33:00.580 argument is now simply not the right time because if we if if ukraine falls that might sort of
00:33:06.880 increase the momentum and then um and then iran might sort of uh we might lose in iran you know
00:33:13.520 you might as well just dust off robert mcnamara's sort of domino theory sort of resurrect that
00:33:20.660 and justify it for continued military industrial
00:33:25.060 military industrial complex expenditure.
00:33:30.960 It seems to me, and I do want to talk about Ukraine, right?
00:33:34.800 But it does seem to me like only this time last year,
00:33:37.780 we were talking very seriously and solemnly about the fact two years ago,
00:33:42.940 perhaps it was, it was when Biden was still president.
00:33:46.200 We were saying, oh my God, this year,
00:33:50.220 the US national debt is actually going to hit 36 trillion.
00:33:55.060 and and there's no end in sight it's just going to keep going we're two years into this second
00:34:00.860 administration it's now up to 40 trillion it's going on and on and on it's your america is
00:34:06.040 playing what's that game with with the wooden with the wooden bricks that you put in and you've
00:34:10.720 got to build a higher higher and higher and then it just collapses that's what america's doing with
00:34:15.080 its economy right now sure put on a few extra trillion dollar bricks in the end of it's just
00:34:19.940 We're all going to collapse. Look, let's talk about Ukraine. 0.58
00:34:24.940 There's something very interesting that's coming out of this to do with the recently sacked defense minister,
00:34:32.040 Mikhail Fedorov is his name, the young guy, 35 years old.
00:34:37.600 And that is this. He has said this guy has been President Zelensky's number one political defender for the last seven years since when he entered government.
00:34:46.960 He's now said that Ukraine, there's too much corruption taking place in Ukraine.
00:34:54.160 There needs to be elections. 0.98
00:34:56.140 This is an argument, and there are huge numbers of Ukrainians, Steve, that are lining up behind him and saying this is absolutely the case.
00:35:04.760 We need elections. There's too much corruption. 1.00
00:35:07.200 This is an argument we have been making on the war room since this war started three or four years ago.
00:35:12.980 And it is an argument which has been dismissed as a right wing talking point. Right. It's been dismissed. The mainstream media have not engaged with this issue. It's as though this is Bannon. This is sort of the this is MAGA at their most isolationist.
00:35:31.980 Well, of course, now that you see that this argument is being made right at the heart and centre of Ukraine's political class, and Zelensky himself just had to sack a former defence minister last week for the largest graft allegations in his presidency, this thing is not going to go away.
00:35:50.620 And when you see this being reported in the Western media, the mainstream media, and this is, Steve, how badly they lied to you, the MSM, how badly it deceives you.
00:36:00.740 And they say, oh, well, look, OK, so Fedorov has just passed his 35th birthday and now he's constitutionally eligible to stand for president.
00:36:09.800 This is this is purely his his political ambitions, grandstanding.
00:36:15.500 That is how bad they are. There's a huge appetite now in Ukraine.
00:36:19.800 You know, one of the reasons is because the very factor that caused the Zelensky phenomenon years ago was because he stood as the anti-corruption candidate.
00:36:31.420 He was he was going to revolutionize it. He was going to change it.
00:36:34.840 And now there's more corruption taking place in Ukraine now than there was under the previous regime.
00:36:42.160 So when you say to me, Steve, are we going to is America going to cough up another billion, 100 billion or what have you?
00:36:49.800 to zelinski america now more than ever before needs a full audit of where the money it has
00:36:57.000 given has gone right before it costs a single cent more amen mtg got that past years ago the first
00:37:06.240 never even attempt at an audit look not our border not our fight uh and we need an audit and not
00:37:12.820 another penny over there when you see the cuts that have to be made and the screaming the democrats
00:37:17.000 going to do low-hanging fruit is any money whatsoever for ukraine any money for israel
00:37:22.980 i think any money for the gulf emirates pay as you go guys and you know show us show us your cash
00:37:29.860 we're out of that business right now particularly with uae let me go let me pivot real quickly to
00:37:35.120 are we getting support for project outcast in europe the japanese i think signed up overnight
00:37:41.140 uh thayer's going to be here in a moment we're going to talk about that uh one of the big issues
00:37:46.180 is uae our ally quote-unquote they're stiffing us because their banks in dubai have been doing
00:37:52.360 the money laundering so is anybody signing up in europe is there any because the ccp is the number 0.65
00:37:58.820 one target uae is the gulf arm is number two but the europeans and particularly european companies 0.82
00:38:04.300 working with the iranians and the european banks is a huge problem what's the temperature of our
00:38:10.240 great allies in nato about scott besson's economic warfare sir your great allies america's great
00:38:18.800 loyal dependable faithful allies in europe are waiting to see japan signing up is neither here
00:38:24.580 um the the countries that you need to look at
00:38:29.140 did he freeze can we yeah can we get can we get him on frozen dr thayer let's go right to you
00:38:40.500 go back to ben when getting back up um project outcast the chinese communist party you've got
00:38:46.780 a great piece today i think it's an is in the washington times that you've got the piece on
00:38:51.260 the defense of taiwan the importance of it and i want everybody to read this it's another great
00:38:55.780 piece from dr thayer uh and you've got the book out now the hundred year war but the mainstream
00:39:01.300 media you saw the coal open they're beating up scott besan by saying hey look you may have put
00:39:06.420 you may have put a warning shot but you didn't have the stone scott besan to use the phrase
00:39:12.680 chinese communist party you kind of alluded to it uh your sense of uh of project outcast as you see
00:39:21.540 it right now and i haven't seen a wave overnight of uh of folks signing up for this so i see japan
00:39:27.960 but i like i think ben's going to tell you hey the europeans are always doing what they always
00:39:32.420 do they're going to sit on the sideline and see how this plays out sir right sure uh steve there's
00:39:38.260 a lot to like about operation economic outcast uh it's it's a targeted strategy uh employing of
00:39:46.040 course, economic coercion against the regime, the key question is, is it going to be enough?
00:39:52.860 It's going to inflict pain on Iran, but that pain is going to be shared principally by
00:39:58.760 the Iranian people and perhaps less so by the Iranian government. And so the key question is,
00:40:07.840 are economic sanctions going to be, however well crafted and targeted as these are,
00:40:14.820 are they going to be enough to bring the Iranian regime to the bargaining table? Are they going to
00:40:21.240 be enough pain for the regime to cause them to be willing to end the war? And the 1,600-pound
00:40:29.580 guerrilla in the room, as you've mentioned, is going to be the Chinese Communist Party, which
00:40:35.120 is flying top cover for the Iranian regime. So the Iranian people are going to suffer from this.
00:40:41.400 There's no doubt about that. But China's, the Chinese Communist Party's activity is going to
00:40:47.780 ensure that the Iranian regime has an out, that it's still going to be able to have, if you will,
00:40:54.660 not the economic asphyxiation, as Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said, but in fact,
00:41:02.860 they have a lifeline. They're still going to be able to breathe, and perhaps breathe quite
00:41:10.100 effectively as China ensures that they have that support, the support that's going to be necessary.
00:41:18.900 The fact that Japan has signed up is wonderful, as you said, and of course, as Ben said, and the
00:41:24.880 fact that so many other states have not shows that there's a tepid, at best, there's a tepid
00:41:32.940 support for this. But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:41:40.100 I get it about the Iranian people in Iran, but they're in media. 0.80
00:41:43.420 If they cut off the oil, and they said they're cutting off the oil,
00:41:46.080 there's not going to be any ability to monetize the oil for the regime purposes.
00:41:50.160 That means the CCP is cut off from a major oil, their most major oil provider.
00:41:58.780 They said the first questions he got was about Chinese banks.
00:42:02.420 Are you going after Chinese banks?
00:42:03.560 And his implication, if Chinese banks are involved in this, I'm going after Chinese banks.
00:42:07.180 If you isolate the Chinese financial system, they're huge banks that are money-centered banks.
00:42:14.140 If you stop them from oil, if you do everything you can do on secondary sanctions for their companies, their arms companies, how does the Chinese Communist Party, how do they handle? 0.83
00:42:26.020 That's not a death blow, but it's the strongest blow we've ever given to them, isn't it? 0.70
00:42:31.760 It is if it comes to pass, Steve.
00:42:34.260 Certainly, it would be. 1.00
00:42:36.440 First of all, Chinese banks are a fraud, right? And if you push them or stress them in any way along these lines, you're going to find out that they may implode. And that's music to our ears, obviously, here. But are we going to do this? 0.91
00:42:53.480 So the Wall Street Journal has got great coverage today on a variety of stories looking at this issue, including, as you referenced, the Rory Jones story on China and whether this would actually push.
00:43:06.860 So Besson hasn't come out and explicitly talked about this.
00:43:12.320 Hang on for one second. Hang on for one second.
00:43:16.980 Dr. Thayer on the other side, the author of The Hundred Year War Against Communism. 0.63
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00:44:54.720 even even as we speak a senior member of the administration just sent me the just texted over
00:45:08.380 the story uh ben horn was back with us and they are burnham likely to visit u.s in september to
00:45:14.620 lobby for ukraine defense support suck on that it's coming folks with uh with you got to cut a
00:45:22.840 two trillion dollar deficit but burnham here's a story from my tv i'll get it up in a second
00:45:28.280 burnham likely to visit u.s in september to lobby for ukraine defense support so it's not going away
00:45:34.460 trust me it's not going away and we got to make sure now we're down to the hard choices
00:45:38.360 uh stanley drunken mill lecturing the mentor of scott bessett lecturing scott bessett that wall
00:45:44.100 street's losing confidence in you and but stanley goes right back to the heart of the article is
00:45:49.260 that the key here is you've got to you've got to decrease the deficits either through revenue
00:45:54.420 enhancements or spending cuts and the reality is we've got a much higher probability of getting
00:45:58.960 there either through growth or spending cuts and spending cuts have got to be part of it scott's
00:46:04.440 coming out with a fiscal consolidation in two weeks with Russ Vogt.
00:46:07.980 Obviously, we're going to cover that and talk about it every day.
00:46:13.180 There.
00:46:14.940 Assume for purposes of this discussion.
00:46:17.640 We can get into, are they going to do it?
00:46:19.940 Are they not going to do it?
00:46:20.860 We understand 60 individuals, institutions already hit overnight,
00:46:24.600 supposedly some big announcements on Friday.
00:46:26.460 But let's give Scott a little runway here.
00:46:29.280 Assume he does do the secondary sanctions.
00:46:32.140 Assume everything he said yesterday, you're either with us or against us, and we're going to turf you out of the dollar-based system.
00:46:40.440 With the Chinese banks and not allowing them to monetize Iranian oil and also Chinese weapons and defense companies and tech companies and surveillance companies, what type of impact will this have, sir?
00:46:55.200 And assume that Besant goes all in.
00:46:58.800 Massive impact on China, right? 1.00
00:47:00.540 this is exactly what we want, Steve, in terms of, you know, we need to recognize first Chinese 0.90
00:47:06.920 banks are built on sand. Everything about them is a lie. In terms of the holdings, 1.00
00:47:12.620 they're completely corrupted by the Chinese Communist Party. So if that's the case,
00:47:17.560 if this is the case, then those banks are going to be stressed in a way that they've never been
00:47:21.380 stressed. And that means the Chinese Communist Party is going to be. And that is a very positive 0.71
00:47:28.480 development okay well hang on hang on hang on when scott when scott was asked the question
00:47:33.040 specifically it was the second question out they said hey look you didn't actually talk about
00:47:37.400 chinese banks and why are you not sanctioning today everybody's calling me why is scott not
00:47:41.780 sanctioned today you know all the mainstream media trying to get trump derangement syndrome
00:47:45.700 and scott's answer was hey we've given a little bit of of room here to put them on notice and
00:47:51.980 here's what you have to do because quote i don't want to blow up the global financial system
00:47:58.160 end quote, Scott Besson. Do we have the option of going after these phony Chinese banks that are 0.52
00:48:04.480 just another form of state power of the Chinese Communist Party? Or if we actually did that
00:48:10.260 in the way that it should be done, would we melt down the global financial system, sir?
00:48:16.660 Well, I think that markets always adjust and there's always going to be obviously costs with
00:48:22.420 any issue here, Steve, but the fundamental point is that Besant is employing economic warfare
00:48:29.140 against Iran, but a direct consequence of that is that he's hitting the Chinese Communist Party
00:48:35.860 in the solar plexus. This is exactly what we want to happen. The consequences of that, of course, 0.99
00:48:42.340 are going to be significant for the global economy, but it's a time that we have this fight.
00:48:49.760 this is the issue now. Xi Jinping, of course, and the Chinese Communist Party have to be held to
00:48:57.360 account for COVID, for the massive human rights abuses, their aggression against Taiwan, the 0.85
00:49:03.700 South China Sea, all of us. Fentanyl, so many other issues. Fentanyl, fentanyl. Okay, hang on,
00:49:10.900 hang on, hang on, hang on. Let's talk about your piece. You got a great piece in the Washington
00:49:16.660 times in the defense of Taiwan. Let's leave aside the moral case that could be made for the
00:49:21.760 obligation to democracy or the first island chain, all the things that are not hard. I guess first
00:49:28.880 island chains would be hard politics. But let's just talk about chips, the ability to run the
00:49:33.840 American economy as the global leader in advanced chip design production, overseeing it. Do we have
00:49:40.320 an option, as you see it, not to defend Taiwan, sir? Not today. President Trump is onshoring,
00:49:47.200 as you know, Steve, and as the audience knows, chip production in the United States. And that's
00:49:54.120 clearly an ongoing project that's going to take years to realize. So today, that is late August
00:50:00.500 2026, no, we don't have an alternative. The loss of- Can we defend- Hang on. As you see it
00:50:10.300 right now as you see it right now and if we pursue the economic warfare really against the chinese 0.95
00:50:15.240 communist party with the intermediary being the persians do you see that will the ccp as a as an 0.95
00:50:23.200 alternative because the persians have threatened military action against us will they advance on
00:50:28.240 taiwan and of what 24 25 august new york or 2026 can the american navy and military defend taiwan
00:50:38.600 from a takeover by the Chinese Communist Party, sir? Yes, they can, right? When we wed that to
00:50:43.920 our nuclear deterrent, Steve. But if we're hitting the Chinese banks, then I think we need to prepare 0.77
00:50:48.900 that the CCP- Hold it, hold it, hold it. Stop, stop, full stop, full stop, full stop. You just 0.77
00:50:53.560 said nuclear deterrent. You're saying the way we defend it was nuclear weapons? Taiwan, absolutely.
00:51:02.540 It's going to obviously be- You just told me we're not going to defend it. You just told me
00:51:06.460 we're not going to defend it. I find it quite hard to believe we would go up the escalatory
00:51:11.620 ladder to nuclear weapons. Maybe. If you're saying that's the defense, then I think people
00:51:17.260 got to rethink what we're doing in the Western Pacific, sir. We've got major conventional
00:51:22.580 problems, Steve, as you know, with our force posture in that part of the world. So U.S. Navy,
00:51:30.680 Army, Air Force, our armed forces have broad shoulders. They can carry a lot of missions on
00:51:35.540 them but uh this is a you know this is a very significant have you been you you you've been
00:51:42.240 you've been talking to gaff even you're from the jack keen school jack keen's pitching nuclear
00:51:47.580 tactical nuclear weapons in persia not not hang on for a second that's
00:51:53.220 i just got i oh man if you're telling me you should just say hey look we're the taiwan's
00:52:00.260 not defensible through conventional military means we deteriorate that quickly where do
00:52:04.900 people go to get the book, Dr. Thayer? Folks can go to Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and you can go to
00:52:11.060 the AmericanFreedomAlliance.org website for our event. The book launch is going to be September
00:52:18.100 17th in the Washington, D.C. area. So folks can go again to AmericanFreedomAlliance.org
00:52:26.080 to sign up for that event. And there'll be other speaking engagements too, Steve,
00:52:31.700 on the book that I'll have posted
00:52:33.940 either there or elsewhere.
00:52:36.180 Thanks so much for writing the forward, Steve.
00:52:38.260 The books
00:52:40.260 must read.
00:52:42.340 Our collapse will move in. Short commercial
00:52:44.540 break. Ben Harnwell's still with us.
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00:53:34.260 why it matters, and what Americans should be watching right now.
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