00:00:54.840I mean, in my book, it's the generosity, daily giving, the five daily prayers, and then the month of Ramadan of fasting,
00:01:05.420simply because they all three represent this sort of habitual behavior connected with the faith.
00:01:15.240And I just wondered if you could comment on what students of all faiths might be able to learn from things like that that you have in Islam.
00:01:26.340Yeah, Islam, including like other religions like Christianity, we all, you know, strive to be better, to be generous, to be kind and to be helpful to one another.
00:01:36.660So I think that's a very important and key concept that we should all like learn from one another and also preach.
00:01:42.900Okay. I just would commend Islam for having actual just habits and rituals that are connected with those values. So, thank you.
00:03:25.720Yeah, well, you know, we're getting ready to deliver the final blow against, you know, Islamic terrorist organizations like CARE and the Islamists who want pro-Islamic content in the Texas social studies curriculum.
00:03:36.640We're voting on the high school social studies standards this week at the State Board of Education, and so we have some great amendments this week that I proposed at the last meeting that teach the factual history of Islam about the conquest of Christian and Jewish lands through jihad, about the brutal military campaigns, and taking up sex slaves by Muhammad.
00:03:58.040And so obviously these Islamic groups are really upset about it, and yeah, they have really flooded the board meeting this week.0.76
00:04:02.980well holy but people everybody had chance to sign up here why is it three times more
00:04:11.200islamic witnesses than uh than christian or regular texans sir yeah i mean i think it goes
00:04:20.060back to just the motivation i think that you know sometimes these islamists are a little bit more
00:04:25.320motivated to push their ideology than unfortunately christians can be and so we've seen a lot of
00:04:30.820people come out in the past, but yeah, they probably do outnumber us here today. And I think
00:04:35.780they understand what's at stake. These social studies standards are going to reflect what
00:04:40.040we're teaching to five and a half million Texas students and generations to come. And this is a
00:04:45.640civilizational battle that we're in right now between the conquest of Islam and our traditional
00:04:51.660Christian American heritage. And they understand what's at stake. And sometimes maybe we don't0.94
00:04:56.820enough. What more motivation to Christians? This has been pretty well publicized. I think we're
00:05:05.580doing this for the third or fourth time. You did the lower grades. You did the middle schools or
00:05:10.320the grade schools. Now we've deferred the high schools. But the people in Texas know what's
00:05:16.160going on. Do they just assume that it's going to be voted down? Is there an assumption down there
00:05:20.220by Christians and by pastors? I haven't seen a lot of churches at the forefront of this. It's
00:05:25.880kind of like oh well somebody else will take care of it the islamists don't think like that they're0.97
00:05:30.520turning out people uh right there you see it's three to one right now far as witnesses go0.99
00:05:36.120yeah they never give up so i think that's part of the problem is this is our third time to come
00:05:41.780back for social studies standards we were able to and thankfully with your help and the war room
00:05:46.600posse we were able to turn out a ton of patriot to the last two meetings um but i think you know
00:05:51.260people get burned out after a while. The thing about, you know, our Islamic foes is that they1.00
00:05:56.480do not, they never give up. They keep coming back. They're playing the long game. And I think1.00
00:06:00.480we need to start thinking a lot more like them. You know, this doesn't end even this week. This
00:06:05.520is just one battlefront and we need to be hyper vigilant and hyper aware of what's taking place
00:06:10.900because they are, there's no question when you're here, you look out at the gallery, you see a sea1.00
00:06:15.660of hijabs and even full burqas and um they are out in force because uh you know part of the0.97
00:06:21.520history that we're teaching is when islam shows up on your doorstep they're not there to assimilate1.00
00:06:25.460we have 1400 years of documented history to show that they're here to take over1.00
00:06:29.560and it's not there to make your civilization better it's there to destroy your civilization0.91
00:06:35.380as historically they've destroyed the great civilizations of egypt and babylon and persia
00:06:41.440you've anywhere they've gone they've destroyed they haven't added to it because it's a uh it's a
00:06:47.620um uh the the internal inconsistencies of it uh show when they have to govern which is really
00:06:55.400just a a complete religious dictatorship as you see right now in persia one of the uh the great
00:07:02.220empires on earth that they brought to their knees and now you have a complete uh you know an economy0.94
00:07:07.140it doesn't work uh you you've got just all 47 years of a horrific uh you know a religious0.98
00:07:15.320uh dictatorship it shows you what islam brings and and to hear these things today have been quite0.80
00:07:20.640infantile on what's been brought up and i'm i'm not that impressed with the texas the texas board0.83
00:07:26.760i think is trying to it looks like they're trying to molly call them i mean you sit on this are
00:07:30.860Are enough hard questions in getting up in the grill about the lies that they're perpetrating here or putting forward?
00:07:40.040I just don't see enough pushback even from the Texas school board itself.
00:07:47.060Yeah, I think what you said is exactly right.
00:07:49.760It will bring down our civilization.0.60
00:07:51.520America is the greatest, freest, and most prosperous nation in the history of the world because of our Christian culture and our free enterprise system.0.72
00:07:59.000not in spite of it, our constitutional republic. When it comes to the state board, we have some
00:08:04.340conservatives that have been pushing back and we have a limited amount of time to do that. Each one
00:08:09.000of us gets 10 minutes for the entire day of all of these testifiers to be able to push back. And so
00:08:14.060myself and member Julie Pickren have been using our time to do that, but we definitely need some
00:08:19.220reinforcements. Well, it also shows you that the Democrats, the Democrats are essentially glazing
00:08:26.740these people when they come up. Now, what's the process from here? When do we actually start to
00:08:32.880vote? Is it another day of testimony? Or I think this will go another hour or so. What happens
00:08:38.400after you've had the testimony? So today's the public hearing, and then we're going to vote on
00:08:43.500amendments throughout the week this week. And then Friday, we'll take the final vote on the set of
00:08:48.500social studies standards. And so I think that the end product is going to be really good. Like you
00:08:53.420said, you know, we just have to be really careful. The Democrats are going to introduce
00:08:57.000dozens, if not hundreds of amendments to try to water these things down and try to get the0.97
00:09:01.160influence of Islam in. At our last meeting, I asked the representative for foreign terrorist1.00
00:09:06.100organization, CARE, if they had submitted amendments to the Democrats and if they were
00:09:10.700working with the Democrat members. And they said yes, under oath in the public hearing. So we know
00:09:15.540that's happening. So we have to fight those Democrat amendments. And we'll get that final
00:09:19.020vote on friday what why are why is care even there why is care organizing the testimony why
00:09:27.240care walking the halls trying to intimidate you and julie pickering how how can that happen they've
00:09:33.180been designated a terrorist group is abbott or the attorney general anybody take or even a local
00:09:37.820prosecutor or sheriff is anybody taking responsibility down there to keep the terrorist
00:09:43.380organization away from citizens and officials, and particularly Christians?1.00
00:09:52.220I mean, you're asking the question that member Julie Pickren and I have been asking all along,
00:09:56.560trying to figure out if they've been designated as a foreign terrorist organization, how are
00:09:59.920we allowing them to come and speak out in the open, out in public?
00:10:02.760They should be in handcuffs, not influencing our Texas social studies curriculum.
00:10:08.180So we're asking the same exact question.
00:10:09.640I hope that we'll get a federal designation of CARE as a foreign terrorist organization soon.
00:10:14.160And I hope that we'll get some of our leaders, our governor and our attorney general, really push back on CARE.
00:10:19.820But hang on. We shouldn't have. OK, but a designation of foreign terrorist groups means President Trump's got to do it.
00:10:24.300Who knows? He's done it, I think, in Turkey and in Qatar or a couple of regions and part of Jordan or Kurdistan.
00:10:32.120But you have the state of Texas has already done this.
00:10:35.160Why has the attorney general and the governor not stepped up and say, hey, you're we designate a terrorist organization among the things you can't do as a terrorist organization is like be in the state of Texas or you can't be in the Texas statehouse or you can't be in official meetings of the Texas school board.
00:10:55.440They're wandering around and they're trying to intimidate people.
00:10:57.300They got a war room set up there and they're trying to intimidate you guys by putting these putting the phones up in your face all the time.
00:19:36.600James Comey subverted the Trump presidency for a long time.
00:19:42.560Right. And he got fired by President Trump and he continued to try to subvert President Trump and his presidency after President Trump fired him.
00:19:53.420But I would say this. I know people, the War Room Posse and others, are waiting for pork walks, as you said, Steve.
00:20:01.540I think the main attraction is down in the Southern District of Florida, as we've been talking about on your show for four years, over four years since the Mar-a-Lago raid.
00:20:11.920That's where we have Jason Redding Quinones as the U.S. attorney.
00:20:16.100That's where we have Joe DiGenova as the lead, as the counsel to the attorney general, taking the lead on that investigation.
00:20:24.120And if you believe the news reports that are out there, they are actively issuing subpoenas and interviewing witnesses.
00:20:33.280And so I would say to the war room posse that they are certainly cooking down in the Southern District of Florida.
00:20:41.920is this issue of grand jury and jury nullification up in washington dc how does this hinder because
00:20:50.720we have to face facts that the democrats are so crazed that they look at these uh you could bring
00:20:57.400in a guy and have eyewitnesses etc and you would have one or two jurors that are just so left-wing
00:21:03.000uh that they will politicize this is having dc in the jury pool in the district so tainted
00:21:10.580particularly with anti-MAGA and specifically with Trump derangement syndrome.
00:33:11.920This is why I said the Bolsheviks were always, you know, they were never more than 10 or 15 percent,0.78
00:33:16.420but they were always in fact when the communists try to take over the unions in the united states0.84
00:33:22.200it was come early vote late because most people have to go home right there that's a grind
00:33:26.540you saw the detail the witness beforehand had every paragraph he wanted change and how he
00:33:33.060wanted to change it's a lot of work and they're showing up the pro-islamist faction is three to
00:33:40.100one today in the testimony and they've done their homework that's what i say people got to take it
00:33:46.300seriously you're going to have to roll your sleeves up and do the work sometimes it's leadership and
00:33:50.660they're not doing this and not legislating here is an open forum because in the texas school system
00:33:57.100this is the way that the texas school school board has public comment and it's tough and it's hard
00:34:04.000work and understand this is the third time we've gone through it and brandon said and that was
00:34:08.460brandon's comments there there at the end and talking to one of the witnesses but it's they
00:34:13.860have three times more because they understand they can see how this has an impact and i think
00:34:21.940people are going to particularly people in texas i mean you're in a fight for it down there and
00:34:25.940and right there you see the the uh the level of detail and the level of sophistication when they
00:34:32.680testify is uh is it's just impressive and we're going to have to show up and you're going to have
00:34:37.400to do the same kind of work. You have to do the work. Come early and vote late. I'm going to go
00:34:44.140to the White House in a minute with McCabe, but I want to go to Paul Glacierus, who joined us last
00:34:50.200year. Paul, at the Washington Monthly. Now, U.S. News and World Report puts out a list of like
00:34:56.780the top colleges and the hot colleges and the colleges you want to get into. You guys put out
00:35:02.840a list but you do and i noticed your list is quite different than their list if we can put
00:35:09.240paul's list up and but it's also changed from last year from when you you first came on our show and
00:35:15.040walked us through it i i consider this more of a populist working man's how you get the best bang
00:35:22.620for your buck list is what i think enticed us last year and this year walk us through the message
00:35:28.340walk us through the difference in methodology why do you guys do this u.s news and world report
00:35:32.600already puts all this work in why did you think there was a need for another list and why did
00:35:38.580you guys then spend all the time and effort to go through all the data to put it together
00:35:42.020well steve thanks for having me on again this year uh look let's say you want to go to dinner
00:35:48.220right and you look at the local uh listings of best restaurants what if all the top 30
00:35:55.480were membership only country clubs you'd say well i don't know maybe it's possible the food's
00:36:02.560better there, but what good does that do me? I can't get into those places. That's U.S. News.
00:36:07.940That's the Wall Street Journal. That's Forbes. The top schools on those rankings are ones that
00:36:14.000almost nobody can get into, right? You have to be in the top 1% of SAT scores. You have to
00:36:19.580have played squash in high school. They're very small. They don't serve very many.
00:36:26.760So this is a ranking that doesn't take snob appeal into account. We just don't factor that in. Instead, it's a ranking for the masses, for the average person, for the average working stiff or their kids who are looking for a school that they can get into, that they can afford, that's going to provide them an economic return that lets them enter or stay in the middle class or better.
00:36:54.280And also that rewards schools that encourage their students to be good members of their democracy, to serve in the military, to serve in AmeriCorps, to vote, to be good citizens.
00:37:14.380And when you measure against that, it's not a completely different ranking.
00:37:21.420But just to give you an example, all the top 20 or 30 colleges in U.S. News and World Report, the Wall Street Journal, the others, they're all elite schools.
00:37:32.780They're all Harvard, Yale, Stanford, maybe University of Michigan, maybe, you know, Berkeley.
00:37:40.080Less than half the top 30 in the Washington Monthly Best Colleges for Your Tuition and Tax Dollars are that.
00:37:47.380The rest are, you know, regional public universities that most people outside those regions have never heard about.
00:37:54.800Schools like, you know, Cal State Fresno or University of Texas Rio Grande Valley.
00:38:03.760And those schools outrank schools like Yale and Harvard and Princeton.
00:38:10.440Not because Yale, Harvard and Princeton aren't great universities.
00:38:13.420If you can get in there, go, but they're just not that important to the grand scheme of things in the United States.
00:38:22.460So if you're an average family, kids going to high school, done good, done well, this is a list to show where they can get into, how they can have a tuition, pay a tuition that's reasonable.
00:38:37.980and most importantly, how they get a job, how they get a practical job on the other side of that
00:38:44.180so they can become a good household or a good member of society and eventually pay back if
00:38:49.100they had to take loans out? Is that essentially what the list is? Yeah, I think that's a fair
00:38:54.020description of what it is. The number one school on our list, by the way, is Berea College in
00:38:59.720Berea, Kentucky. And I'll bet 90% of your listeners, your audience, doesn't know anything
00:39:06.920about Borea, but it's a fine school. It's in Borea, Kentucky. It's in rural Kentucky.
00:39:13.500They charge almost zero tuition for their undergrads. They do that because the undergrads
00:39:20.000work. They work jobs on campus, starting as janitors and going on up to data work that
00:39:27.500gives them practical experience that they need to get good jobs, and they get great jobs, and they
00:39:32.860earn, you know, thousands of dollars more than they would have had they gone to a typical other
00:39:38.360college. And that's kind of the way that we rank them. Are you walking out without too much debt
00:39:46.760and walking into a career that advances you? You know, I first came upon Victor Davis Hanson,
00:39:57.020who's kind of handsome is kind of icon on the right back in the 1990s i think it was early
00:40:02.2802000s in the financial times of london he wrote a column at the time he was a professor of classics
00:40:08.360at uh cal state fresno and he wrote that hey classics are an important thing to teach because
00:40:15.180all of his students were either agriculture majors engineering memory all practical all the
00:40:20.400practical arts but he said they really got he was teaching i think the peloponnesian war
00:40:25.160uh because of their background and history and either families have been in the military
00:40:29.760or uh you know these guys a lot of these guys were in the in the local fight club they really
00:40:35.040understood the classics and got down to it he says hey it was a rewarding thing but we've got
00:40:39.200to continue to teach the classics but i noticed that his speaking about cal state fresno it was
00:40:46.900a real labor of love because he was from there and a farmer from there and he's at stanford today
00:40:51.860And, of course, I don't agree with everything he has to put out, but it was just at Fresno State or Cal State Fresno, he absolutely loved it.
00:40:58.760And that's essentially a lot of the Cal State system.
00:41:05.320I think it went to Northridge and did a fantastic job and would never gotten access to kind of come into Hollywood and be an accountant if they hadn't gone and gotten a degree at Cal State Northridge.
00:41:16.780There are a lot of Cal State in the top 10 or 20.
00:41:20.920Is that one of the reasons they're there, because of the practical nature of the education?
00:41:25.340It's the practical nature of the education.
00:41:27.860And, you know, the kids going to these Cal States, they don't have the same preparation as the young people going to the University of California, the sort of more elite system.
00:41:40.360They don't come from as wealthy as families, but they have the same hunger to learn, right?
00:41:44.660The hunger to learn doesn't know economic differences.
00:41:49.240And they get both the practical and the humanities. And, you know, the humanities are important. We've got another story in the issue that's out now by a guy who is one of my heroes, Paul LeBlanc.
00:42:07.320He turned Southern New Hampshire University into one of the great colleges, online colleges for working class students.
00:42:16.800And he's got an essay about how to pick a college in the age of AI.
00:42:21.740And, you know, one of the things he's saying is, you know, these colleges that that take personal interest in the lives of the students and are teaching the classics, teaching the humanities.
00:42:35.120That's what jobs in the AI are going to demand.
00:42:42.540And there's nothing wrong with the University of California system, but, you know, they don't educate anywhere near as many students as the Cal State students, colleges do.
00:42:53.860And the Cal States do it for less money per student.
00:48:57.980So we pulled those out, and we got 244 colleges that do a heck of a job of providing upward mobility for students from small towns and rural areas.
00:49:15.120And upward mobility where you're not going to go to the big city.
00:49:19.320I mean, how do you adjust for not running off to New York City right after you graduate and trying to make it there?
00:49:27.340Did you did you factor that in? Yeah, we sure did. That's where this Upjohn Institute data comes in. It distinguishes between students who moved out of state for their careers. Right. It finds them, you know, some years after they graduate. Where do they where do they make their living? Where do they build their lives?
00:49:47.180If they're in state, they get points on our ranking. If they're out of state, they lose points on our ranking. Not that that's bad. I mean, I grew up in Missouri and moved to Washington, D.C., broke my parents' heart.
00:49:59.240But for, you know, for this exercise, we said schools that educate students who stay in state get extra points.
00:50:23.360And it's in a small town in the Black Belt near the Mississippi border.
00:50:27.700I'd never heard of the university, but the students who go there earn 24 years after they graduate, they earn $24,000 more a year than they would have had they gone to a typical college.
00:50:44.520Because they train a lot of teachers and teachers make decent money compared to a lot of people in small towns.
00:50:52.740And, you know, small towns have been taking it on the chin.
00:50:55.340Rural areas have been taking it on the chin for years.
00:50:57.700right? They've lost banks, they've lost jobs, they've lost population, but they're still jobs
00:51:03.060they can't fill. And we give extra points to the universities that fill the jobs that are in demand
00:51:10.160in rural areas. And teachers are one of them. Engineers are one of them. Nurses are one of them.
00:51:18.160These are the jobs that rural areas need to compete financially and to serve their communities.
00:51:25.920And a lot of these colleges, Steve, they're the civic and economic load-bearing pillars of these communities.
00:51:35.900Some of them provide the local police force.
00:51:38.960Some of them are the only source of a public radio station, the only source of affordable medical care.
00:51:51.940I mean, they're very, very important. And they have contracts with local providers. And, you know, those are also the schools, by the way, that are likely to disappear as we hit this demographic cliff where there are fewer and fewer high school students.
00:52:10.000So a great resource for America. And I think your audience would love looking at this ranking.
00:52:17.580Yeah. Paul, hang over a second. I'm going to hold you through.
00:52:21.940We also got from the culturalist about the SAT.