Bannon's War Room - September 04, 2026


Episode 5641： One On One With Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent; Reinstating America As A Manufacturing Superpower


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00:00:00.000 Want to watch percentages? Currently 52% of the hike at the next meeting, and we're hitting hold onto your seats, folks.
00:00:07.660 Non-farm payrolls for the month of August up $162K, $162,000.
00:00:16.400 That's basically three times what expectations are.
00:00:21.160 Now, here's the fly in the ointment.
00:00:23.000 The two-month net revision is minus, excuse me, it was minus $103,000 last month.
00:00:31.480 It's plus $55,000.
00:00:33.740 So $162,000 plus 55 two-month revision.
00:00:37.880 We're cooking in Greece on this report.
00:00:40.480 $162,000 would be the best level going back to March of this year, which was the high water market, $214,000.
00:00:48.620 Now, if you look at manufacturing jobs, renaissance continues.
00:00:52.560 up 16,000. Also, three times what we're expecting. We're looking for 5K. 16,000 is the new high
00:01:00.320 watermark for the year, usurping March's 15,000. And to find a higher number, you're going all
00:01:07.300 the way back to the end of 2023. Earnings, these are the month-over-month version, up three-tenths
00:01:13.980 as expected, significantly higher than the one-tenth rearview mirror, upgraded to up two-tenths.
00:01:19.460 Year over year, still a little on the stodgy side.
00:01:23.000 3.1 expected, 3.2 in the rearview mirror.
00:01:26.400 3.1 would be the lightest going back to May of 2021.
00:01:30.900 But then again, so were the last couple of months going back to that same comp.
00:01:35.540 If we look at hours worked, always important.
00:01:38.560 34.4, it moved up a bit.
00:01:40.940 We have six readings at 34.3.
00:01:43.600 34.4 would equal where we were.
00:01:47.220 Uh, wow, wow, wow. I have to go way back here. Uh, 34.4 is a solid number. It goes beyond my
00:01:54.920 list here because it's been so depressed on the unemployment rate. It remains at 4.1%.
00:02:00.780 I thought the labor force participation rate, which now I'm giving you at 61.6. I thought that
00:02:09.020 moving higher would make the unemployment rate move up, but it did not. 61.6 is the labor force
00:02:15.620 participation, that's one-tenth better than we were looking for. That's a whopping two-tenths
00:02:20.740 better than our last look, which means that on the household survey, of course, when they call
00:02:25.940 up people, they find out if they're actively looking for work. And if they are and they don't
00:02:31.360 have a job, of course, they're counted in the labor force participation. If they do have a job,
00:02:37.220 they are. But lately, when this rate goes up, usually the unemployment rate goes up. It didn't
00:02:41.880 do it in this case and finally the underemployment rate a 210 positive move from 7.9 to 7.7 that's
00:02:50.040 the best of the year you have to go all the way back to jan of 25 to find a lower u6 or the
00:02:56.780 underemployment to summarize all that that's easy look at interest rates up up up and they should
00:03:03.180 go up and this by very definition counterbalances there are some negative components to interest
00:03:09.140 rates going up. Okay, let me have it. Okay, it's Friday, 4th September, Year of the Lord,
00:03:14.220 2026, kicking off the Labor Day weekend. We're honored to have the Secretary of Treasury,
00:03:19.020 Scott Besson, join us. Mr. Secretary, you spent many years here as a contributor talking about
00:03:24.080 a MAGA-focused economic plan. You were then on the campaign with the president in 2024. You were
00:03:30.960 the transition head for the economics team. You then became Secretary of Treasury. How does this
00:03:36.720 blowout jobs number. Just walk us through how it fits in to the economic plan you and President
00:03:43.680 Trump have been hammering for a couple of years, sir. Steve, good morning and good to be with you.
00:03:50.720 And look, this number, I've been out going across the country, which is one of the favorite parts
00:03:59.060 my job, and I call it turning policy into people. And that's what we're seeing here.
00:04:06.200 This is a successful implementation of a trade, tax, energy, and deregulatory strategy.
00:04:16.580 These are the best numbers since December 24. And what's important, Steve, here is this is a
00:04:22.400 broad number. You can see that it is moving out across all the industries. This isn't just a
00:04:31.160 narrow technology building boom. And we can see it in other numbers too, Steve, just like in
00:04:38.020 President Trump's first term, which you were part of, that the bottom 25% of wage earners are getting
00:04:46.000 the biggest wage increase of 4.7% so far this year versus a median of about three and a half.
00:04:53.920 And look, we want everyone to do well, but it was the lower income cohorts who got crushed
00:05:01.600 under the Biden administration. So look, we are successfully executing the plan.
00:05:07.780 We think that we can have very high non-inflationary growth. If you go and look,
00:05:15.080 the interest rates, this is the highest correlation, highest correlation they've ever had to the oil
00:05:21.760 price. And we're going to get on the other side of this Iran conflict. And I expect that oil will
00:05:28.300 come down. I actually think we're going to be very much oversupplied in the oil market after this.
00:05:34.620 We can see $50, $40 crude maybe just because there's so much coming online.
00:05:40.400 Mr. Secretary, at the G20 finance minister's meeting in Nashville, you talked about the real economy and manufacturing.
00:05:52.920 And one of the things here I just want to reiterate, the data center part of this, I think, is under 9,000 jobs.
00:05:58.140 I mean, it's tiny.
00:05:59.580 If you actually do the resets for the previous month, you talk over 200,000 jobs.
00:06:04.820 Walk me through how this fits in with what you were talking to the G20 ministers about.
00:06:10.400 Well, and look, Steve, I don't want to do any grave dancing here, but let's contrast the Canadian employment numbers today.
00:06:20.320 They lost more than 40,000 jobs, and we had a blowout jobs number.
00:06:26.480 And our message at the G20 was come and grow with us.
00:06:30.640 And whether it's Europe with their stifling regulatory regime, whether it's these other countries that have slavishly worshipped at the altar of climate to the detriment of their citizens' economic health.
00:06:49.380 And, you know, what we're seeing here is this is sequencing, Steve, that I talk about going last fall winter down to my hometown in Charleston, South Carolina, to see the Boeing plant expansion.
00:07:05.560 And they are expanding the Dreamliner facility by 50%.
00:07:11.840 And that starts out as a big burst of construction jobs, which we are seeing in the data.
00:07:17.700 And then that is going to become a thousand high paid, great, big benefit manufacturing jobs.
00:07:26.320 And we're seeing that all over the country, everywhere I go.
00:07:29.600 I just was at the Economic Club of Charlotte on Wednesday.
00:07:35.400 And Charlotte's a boom town, boom town.
00:07:38.200 And everyone there is telling me, all the business leaders, we did our expansion because of the full expensing in the tax bill.
00:07:47.200 And, Steve, I have to say that I think that this tax bill is a real gem because it's a barbell.
00:07:55.940 On one side, you have great treatment for corporate America, full expensing of equipment, full expensing of factories, which was new.
00:08:05.060 And I had a lot of these business leaders tell me how much they appreciated that.
00:08:09.100 Full expensing of ag structures.
00:08:11.440 Then on the other side, too, promises made, promises kept.
00:08:14.540 President Trump delivered no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, reduced taxes on Social Security, 85% of our seniors will no longer be paying taxes on Social Security, and interest deductibility for American-made cars.
00:08:30.260 So more jobs, people keeping more of their money.
00:08:33.900 And as I travel across the country, I will tell you what people love, both the employers and the workers, no tax on overtime.
00:08:43.100 It's the American way.
00:08:44.540 Work harder, keep more of your money.
00:08:48.640 You said from the beginning that, hey, we're going to grow our way out of this.
00:08:52.080 The big, beautiful bill will be the last chance to really get a supply side tax cut.
00:08:56.580 The tariffs, your tariff strategy with the president and Peter Navarro and the ambassador,
00:09:01.820 all focused on a forcing function here to make sure that we can grow manufacturing
00:09:07.460 and particularly high value added manufacturing to become a manufacturing hegemon again.
00:09:11.960 How do these numbers fit into that plan?
00:09:15.560 Well, there's evidence that it is a rip-roaring success.
00:09:21.460 And I think we're just getting started because, you know, I had some of these financially
00:09:26.580 illiterate senators say to me, like, during my testimony, well, where are these manufacturing
00:09:33.840 jobs you promised?
00:09:35.640 And it's just like, unlike when I used to trade the currency or the bond markets, I
00:09:41.720 can't make things happen instantaneously. But now we are seeing the ramp, construction jobs that turn
00:09:48.400 into manufacturing jobs. And we're seeing the business confidence is high. PMIs are well above
00:09:59.020 50, which shows we're in expansionary phase. And this is with this Iranian war going on.
00:10:06.920 mr secretary how is this going to play in you've spent a lot of time on on capital markets a lot
00:10:14.300 of time on the bond markets now that you can actually see uh you know besides the iranian
00:10:20.360 excursion as the president calls it uh back to the kind of the plant that was back in february
00:10:25.820 how is this going to translate we just heard norway today say hey we may take a look at
00:10:30.140 our portfolio we know you've been very involved with argentina with uh with japan with everything
00:10:35.820 is going on, how is this going to play into your management of the nation's debt, the
00:10:40.420 deficit, and really managing, helping manage the bond market?
00:10:44.480 Well, Steve, first of all, people say to me, well, gosh, like the stock market's going
00:10:51.760 up on bad news.
00:10:53.480 And I said, it's not bad news, the news coverage is bad.
00:10:57.980 And I've said to you, I've said to your viewers before, before I came to office, I was a little
00:11:03.440 queasy with the term fake news.
00:11:05.260 Now, I think it's not strong enough, because I look at this financial news, if you go underneath
00:11:12.280 the hood, away from this anti-American financial times, which is just, they are anti-American,
00:11:21.360 they are anti-business, they are anti-Western values, they're a features newspaper now,
00:11:27.920 just like the Wall Street Journal.
00:11:29.460 Wall Street Journal isn't a business paper.
00:11:33.200 The only thing I read on them is the book reviews.
00:11:37.480 But you read the story on the Norwegian Sovereign Fund, and it says two things.
00:11:43.880 One, this is a global decision.
00:11:45.680 It just happens that the U.S. bond market is the deepest.
00:11:51.860 It also says that they are looking at buying other paper, whether it's slightly higher yielding,
00:11:59.180 mortgage paper, so they're just looking to upgrade their yield with other American assets.
00:12:06.080 They want to buy Fannie, Freddie, Jenny May paper.
00:12:09.620 I am the biggest advocate for that.
00:12:13.560 Just like these other things, there was this hysterical story that the Dutch are moving
00:12:20.940 some of their gold to London, and they're moving it from New York, and that was somehow
00:12:27.060 Link to President Trump's, the trade action.
00:12:35.280 Geopolitical uncertainty, I think they called it, right?
00:12:40.340 That's fake news.
00:12:42.260 But again, the buried leaves, Steve, was they moved their gold from Ottawa, too.
00:12:48.000 Like that was in about paragraph 48.
00:12:50.520 But look, the U.S. bond market is the best performing in the world since President Trump
00:13:00.880 came in, that the Iran conflict will end, interest rates, and the spike in headline
00:13:09.960 inflation will come down.
00:13:11.960 What's important, Steve, is that because of what the president has done on the DREG front,
00:13:19.100 We can have non-inflationary growth, and indeed, we are seeing that the core inflation, which
00:13:28.060 is without the very volatile energy components, is actually flat to coming down.
00:13:34.580 We had the biggest decrease in pharmaceutical prices ever, 3.5%.
00:13:40.320 That's unheard of.
00:13:43.180 In terms of food affordability, we call it groceries.
00:13:48.560 The statistical agencies call it food and home.
00:13:51.640 It's up 2.3% this year, which is very close to the Fed's target level.
00:14:00.080 A couple things.
00:14:01.080 I know you've got to bounce, and we appreciate you spending the time.
00:14:03.180 Just a few things.
00:14:03.900 We hear now that many Europeans are signing up the economic war against the Persians to really stop the kinetic part,
00:14:11.400 and focus on what we need to do to bring this to a conclusion.
00:14:15.220 My understanding is a lot of people are signing up for you to say,
00:14:18.260 hey, look, we've got to be secondary sanctions, we're on board.
00:14:21.000 What's the reality of the economic war plan against the Persians?
00:14:25.800 Yeah, so, Steve, this is an isolation program like it has never been seen before.
00:14:33.180 And, again, some of the same papers that I just listed,
00:14:38.240 You know, oh, this doesn't work.
00:14:41.520 Sanctions don't work.
00:14:42.520 Well, see, let me tell you what does work.
00:14:44.700 Six weeks of hyperkinetic activity, destroying Iran's, the Navy, destroying their air force,
00:14:53.840 destroying a huge amount of their missile and drone capability, but more importantly,
00:14:57.300 destroying the factories that would replenish those, check.
00:15:01.480 Number two, putting in, as President Trump calls it, the iron wall blockade that everyone
00:15:07.020 Iran can, in a few minutes, go to the Treasury website, and you will see that, or the Treasury
00:15:15.780 X account, and you will see that Iran has gotten out zero barrels, zero barrels, in
00:15:22.240 the past month and a half.
00:15:23.400 And the only reason they got them out is because we gave them a chance, we signed the MOU,
00:15:29.520 And they sent oil toward China, watched the space for action on that on Tuesday.
00:15:41.080 But they are getting nothing out and nothing in.
00:15:45.200 On the other hand, their currency is collapsing.
00:15:47.280 But Steve, to your question, everyone wants this to end.
00:15:53.680 It is 47 years with this evil regime, and the world's had it with them.
00:16:01.700 The Persian people are great people.
00:16:04.460 There is this repressive regime on top.
00:16:07.860 Either the regime is going to change within, the people are going to come up, or we'll
00:16:13.540 see what happens.
00:16:14.540 We are going to economically suffocate them.
00:16:17.180 Their currency is collapsing.
00:16:19.460 They're in what I call the jaws of economic death.
00:16:23.940 The currency is collapsing, and they have zero, zero oil exports.
00:16:30.400 They will come to heel, and our Gulf allies are on board.
00:16:36.420 Our European allies are on board.
00:16:38.040 We have more and more people signing up every day.
00:16:40.760 We are going to announce probably at 10 o'clock this morning, or I guess we're announcing
00:16:46.900 it as I'm on the air now, that we have sanctioned another bank, and last week we sanctioned
00:16:53.540 an Egyptian bank.
00:16:55.300 There are five branches in Dubai that had given the regime $1.8 billion.
00:17:00.100 We will sanction another bank today, and sanction is code for you are out of business.
00:17:07.660 We will probably sanction another bank next week.
00:17:11.520 We are telling the financial system, bad actors, we know who you are, you know who you are,
00:17:19.620 it's over.
00:17:21.040 And our allies are helping with this, like our allies in the UAE, that they were very
00:17:29.160 helpful with this bank in Dubai.
00:17:31.600 Now we have formed a partnership with them to stop all this illicit finance.
00:17:36.340 Today you will see a country where this bank is sanctioned.
00:17:39.580 We are going to work with them to remedy the problem, because they have numerous banks
00:17:43.640 in their financial system, and we don't want to blow up these banks.
00:17:48.820 We will, but the countries are now all on board.
00:17:52.420 It is the end game for this regime.
00:17:55.020 They can either normalize or face the consequences.
00:17:58.980 Mr. Secretary, just two things on artificial intelligence.
00:18:03.700 One, we said about the small number of jobs that are here at the data centers, but I'll
00:18:07.700 get to that in a second.
00:18:08.700 I want to go. Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen in Axios today have literally the lead stories about we're hurtling towards artificial general intelligence.
00:18:17.880 We now know that you're quite involved in all this.
00:18:20.640 Just your sense, Reuters is reporting a story of another containment breakout that wasn't reported before.
00:18:26.640 before.
00:18:27.640 Are you comfortable as Secretary of Treasury, particularly given the inextricably linked
00:18:31.880 nature of artificial intelligence now with these money center banks, that we're on top
00:18:36.420 of things about where things are going with as we hurdle towards artificial general intelligence,
00:18:42.560 sir?
00:18:43.560 Steve, these models, as you say, are very, very powerful.
00:18:49.480 And what I am more and more comfortable with is the largest banks, the systemically important
00:18:56.220 GSIBs have been fantastically proactive. They have been great partners with Treasury. We have
00:19:02.860 a program with them. And I am highly confident in their increasing resilience. And they are using
00:19:11.140 their crude knowledge and down the cap stack from the megabanks to the super regionals to the
00:19:19.540 regionals down to smaller and community banks.
00:19:22.700 So every day, our financial system is becoming more and more resilient.
00:19:27.460 Now, my anxiety is with many, many public utilities, small utilities that have been
00:19:36.240 patched together, their systems patched together in open source code.
00:19:41.860 And we are going to, in the coming weeks, announce an all hands on deck program to increase
00:19:48.220 their resiliency. So, Steve, the answer here, artificial intelligence isn't going back.
00:19:54.420 And like Comrade Sanders, when he says, oh, let's put a year of pause on it, great. When
00:20:02.320 he can convince his buddy Xi Jinping to do the same thing, then we can go with that.
00:20:08.180 But the Chinese are playing catch up with us. They're three or six months behind. And
00:20:14.620 I can tell you that these Chinese models where they distill from U.S. models, that's code
00:20:21.240 for steel, have no guardrails and are much more dangerous than any of the U.S. models.
00:20:28.800 So resilience here is going to be the key.
00:20:34.440 You said the other day at the G7 that, hey, it's not the president's responsibility.
00:20:39.700 It's the CEO's responsibility.
00:20:41.640 You're a son of South Carolina, and particularly the working class area around Myrtle Beach, these local communities.
00:20:48.000 What are you telling these CEOs and the data centers they have to do?
00:20:51.220 What is the pitch that they have to make if they want to continue?
00:20:56.000 As you know, we're pretty anti-data center here in the war room.
00:20:59.500 What is your signal to these CEOs that they need to do that it's not the president's responsibility, it's not your responsibility, it's not the government's responsibility to make this pitch.
00:21:08.800 It's the companies themselves.
00:21:10.620 What is your recommendation?
00:21:12.900 Well, at the Economic Club of Charlotte, I had a great interviewer there, and he was
00:21:19.180 asking me about this, and I said, you know, Michael, I used to be a college professor.
00:21:24.360 I was known for tough grading.
00:21:25.560 I would give these guys a D- for the way they have presented themselves to the public.
00:21:33.300 And Steve, you should be anti-data center for the way these guys have behaved.
00:21:37.980 And if you can change behaviors, then I think we have to win this AI challenge.
00:21:46.440 So they need to go from being D-minus students, it's pass-fail, and they're right on the line
00:21:52.980 for failing, and they've got to be A-plus for these communities, and they've got to
00:21:59.440 show the benefits of the communities.
00:22:02.420 They come in my office, and it's like, well, we're going to do a 12.5% this on the utility
00:22:09.740 and this.
00:22:12.740 Just tell everyone in the community, you're going to pay their property taxes for 20 years.
00:22:19.100 Show tangible benefits, show the jobs, and also, think about where you want to locate
00:22:25.760 these things, and that any change causes anxiety.
00:22:34.420 We have a technological change.
00:22:36.520 We have people perceive there's a threat to their jobs, and then there's the anxiety
00:22:46.080 in their communities, and they have to do a much better job communicating this.
00:22:54.260 I think they've got to win people over
00:22:57.440 because I do not want to see a moratorium on these things.
00:23:02.640 They should not be a moratorium, but they have to do better.
00:23:06.540 And yesterday, Sam Altman came out and agreed with me.
00:23:11.920 Mr. Secretary, thank you for spending time with us.
00:23:14.580 In Besant, we trust.
00:23:15.940 Where do they go to get to the Treasury site,
00:23:17.980 your social media, all of it, sir?
00:23:20.540 Yeah. Just come to my site, my ex-account at Treasury. We push out a lot of information
00:23:31.260 that I think your viewers will be interested in. And I am very, very confident that we are in a
00:23:40.720 good spot. Iranian conflict will end. The headline inflation is going to come down,
00:23:48.100 and wages are going to continue strengthening.
00:23:53.700 Mr. Secretary, good news.
00:23:56.200 The president, you and the president,
00:23:57.880 the economic plan has been extraordinary.
00:24:00.220 Keep hitting it.
00:24:01.380 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:24:03.320 Yep.
00:24:03.580 And Steve, the president never stopped.
00:24:07.260 Never stops.
00:24:08.860 Never stops.
00:24:09.400 Ever.
00:24:10.280 Ever.
00:24:10.760 Ever.
00:24:11.540 Never stops.
00:24:13.220 Ever.
00:24:13.940 The hardest working guy I know.
00:24:15.760 Ever.
00:24:16.720 Yep.
00:24:17.000 good to see you guys like scott besant always good to see you mr secretary thank you
00:24:23.080 if you're an audience member been here for a few years absolutely nothing has changed
00:24:32.020 with scott besant he's laid this out years ago the exact plan so it's safe pair of hands keep
00:24:39.240 steady keep your eye on the price let's get uh we got jim rick's got a lot of people navarro's
00:24:43.680 going to join us. Jim Rickards, Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson on the plan, right? Even
00:24:50.640 with the Iranian excursion, this is something they've worked on supply side growth, manufacturing,
00:24:56.740 return America to be a manufacturing hegemon. Jim Rickards, your thoughts on the Secretary
00:25:02.640 of Treasury's comments today and your thoughts on the numbers, sir. Well, I like that part about
00:25:08.820 paying my property taxes for 20 years. I've got a lot of land in New England. Sam Altman can have
00:25:14.600 some if he pays my taxes, so we'll start there. Yeah, look, I can't think of anyone better,
00:25:20.740 more seasoned, and more hands-on, knowledgeable to conduct a financial war against Iran than
00:25:27.180 Secretary Bessent, his plan for the American economy. We, I guess, recently passed $40
00:25:35.440 trillion in national debt. That was headlines for a week. You would think we're having a national
00:25:40.740 heart attack or something. You cannot think intelligently about the $40 trillion in debt,
00:25:47.140 which is true, that is the number, unless you put it in the context of GDP. I've said this before,
00:25:53.480 but you look at the debt to GDP ratio. How much do we owe, but how much capacity do we have?
00:26:00.500 GDP is a good proxy for that, to pay the debt. By the way, you don't have to pay it up. We're
00:26:05.300 never going to pay it off. What you do have to do is roll it over. As treasury securities mature,
00:26:11.520 you do need to sell new ones, take the money, pay off the old one, and then go forward with
00:26:16.340 the new one. So it's that rollover aspect that's critical. And that's a question of market
00:26:21.620 confidence and market trust. So what does the market actually look at when they're making
00:26:26.140 those decisions? Well, the answer I just gave is the debt to GDP ratio. Right now, it's at an
00:26:32.840 all-time highs. I'm not saying that's good. It's at about 124%, give or take, which is an all-time
00:26:38.600 high, higher than the end of World War II. But the market asks themselves the following question,
00:26:44.060 is it going up or coming down? Even though it's high, and that does slow growth, and it's way
00:26:49.280 high, if it's coming down, that's a good thing. In 1945, at the end of World War II, it was about
00:26:56.140 120%, a little bit lower than it is today, but that was the all-time high. In 1980, when Ronald
00:27:01.440 Reagan was sworn in, that number was 30%. So how did we get it from 100? Now, by the way,
00:27:07.040 the debt tripled, the deficits tripled, but the economy grew by 10 times. And so the ratio went
00:27:14.780 down, not because the debt was going away. It didn't. It got a lot bigger, but the economy
00:27:18.820 grew even faster. So Besson has got it exactly right. I mean, of course, he understands this,
00:27:23.720 but it's fifth grade math. As long as the economy is growing faster than the debt,
00:27:27.960 then the ratio is going down and the market will have confidence. That's what matters,
00:27:32.220 not the $40 trillion. But Besant left one thing out. When you say growth for this purpose,
00:27:38.060 when you're doing the analysis I just outlined, you're talking about nominal growth. Nominal
00:27:43.460 growth is real growth plus inflation. And Besant talked about real growth, which is real. I mean,
00:27:50.340 we're getting foreign investment. We're the data centers. You may like them, you may hate them,
00:27:55.120 but they're it's the real jobs you know cement and concrete and steel and and uh processors but
00:28:01.080 only but hang on but in this job of the 100 hang on the 162 000 plus the reset of the other 50
00:28:07.440 there's only about i think 10 000 jobs related data this thing about data centers creating all
00:28:12.680 these jobs it's just not accurate there's under 10 ej antonium i try to get him on this afternoon
00:28:18.420 we went through the math quickly before the show data centers are not a big part of this these are
00:28:23.520 actual manufacturing jobs the the 16 or 20 000 are manufacturing jobs well well you're right that
00:28:29.820 data centers were not a big part of this month's increase but there were a lot of data center jobs
00:28:34.200 already created over the past year that are still there members this report shows the change over
00:28:39.900 the prior month it shows new job crash it was very strong and you're right steve sometimes sometimes
00:28:45.040 the headline number is strong and you look at the subcategories there's a lot of weakness there
00:28:49.100 that was not true this time the headline was strong and all the subcategories were strong
00:28:53.980 And, you know, some government jobs and service sector jobs, and that's important.
00:28:57.580 There were not a lot of new data center jobs, but there are a lot of existing data center jobs that are still there.
00:29:03.400 And it's part of it.
00:29:04.580 But there's more to it.
00:29:06.000 I mean, I agree with that.
00:29:07.540 But my point is a little bit different, which is when, you know, these data centers, there is real stuff.
00:29:14.840 I mean, like steel, glass, concrete, electronics, et cetera, that's helping the economy.
00:29:20.640 But, you know, data centers.
00:29:22.000 Hey, Jim, Jim, hang on one second.
00:29:24.400 We've got to go to a break because we blew the last one.
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00:29:50.580 Well, thanks, Secretary Besson.
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00:32:43.020 Okay.
00:32:44.800 This is very important.
00:32:45.880 We're very honored to have Scott Besson join us.
00:32:47.640 Peter Navarro is with us now.
00:32:48.800 Peter Navarro, the manufacturing trade.
00:32:51.440 I saw her over at the White House.
00:32:53.600 And this is for the court jester over at CNBC, Jim Cramer.
00:32:58.140 It's for all the, you know, the faux business and economic reporters.
00:33:04.060 This is a plan.
00:33:05.400 the war on posse knows it's been very well developed now joining us peter navarro who's
00:33:10.380 our co-host for many many years scott besson was a contributor this plan was laid out week after
00:33:16.420 week after week it then became part of they both joined the trump campaign and then the transition
00:33:21.800 and now uh peter's over at the white house scott is at treasury so peter walk me through you get
00:33:28.480 a piece up on real clear markets right now i want to thank john tamney and the team over real clear
00:33:33.140 Mark's getting up so quickly. But this is the whole function, the whole purpose of Trumponomics
00:33:40.020 is to return the United States of America to a high-value-added manufacturing hegemon,
00:33:47.920 okay, a renaissance in manufacturing that brings in high-value-added jobs. This is about tariffs,
00:33:53.360 it's about supply-side tax cut, it's about blowing up the administrative state on deregulation,
00:33:58.520 it's about trade and to all of it and it all is converging and that's these numbers so people
00:34:03.280 running oh these numbers these numbers this is a plan of course we've had a diversion right as
00:34:08.780 president trump says excursion uh to the middle east now uh scott is now the economic warlord to
00:34:15.340 bring that to a close after the kinetic part you got people signing up you had the g20 which was
00:34:20.940 not just about artificial intelligence the g20 that that for the finance ministers was about all
00:34:26.200 these manufacturing jobs are being built and how we can have better trade partners.
00:34:30.420 So walk me through these numbers in context of a plan that we've not only talked about
00:34:37.300 for years, analyzed for years, but now we've implemented and we're executing on the plan.
00:34:42.720 Dr.
00:34:43.320 Peter Navarro.
00:34:46.460 Literally years.
00:34:48.100 This goes back to when you and I were at Trump Tower on the 2016 campaign.
00:34:55.080 It was the four horsemen of Trumpnomics and prosperity, right?
00:35:00.360 We had the tax cuts, the deregulation.
00:35:02.680 We had the strategic energy dominance.
00:35:04.920 Oh, and by the way, the fair trade.
00:35:07.900 And so fast forward now, as we implement this literally on steroids, we've got the terrorists
00:35:15.580 defending the industrial base.
00:35:17.840 We've got the tax cuts, particularly for factory investment, fueling investment.
00:35:22.320 deregulation is letting our builders build the secure borders are completely changing
00:35:29.060 the labor market math in a way which favors both employment and wage growth and reshoring is
00:35:37.520 beginning to show up where it matters most in factories construction sites payrolls and paychecks
00:35:44.020 And if you look at this report, Kevin Warsh, it's not a recession report. It's not a stagnation
00:35:52.880 report. It's not a report that justifies another Federal Reserve rate hike. What we've got is a
00:36:01.080 report showing a resilient economy, a rising labor force, steady wage gains, and an industrial base
00:36:09.540 beginning to respond to the combined voice of tariffs, tax cuts, deregulation, and reshoring.
00:36:16.520 And if you dig down into the numbers, there's certainly things that warm my heart as the head
00:36:22.840 of the Office of Trade Manufacturing in the White House. Manufacturing in this month's report rose
00:36:30.460 by 16,000 jobs, and 15,000 were in the durable goods manufacturing. And this, Steve, is consistent
00:36:39.500 now with seven straight months of the ISM manufacturing index above 50 and trending
00:36:47.420 upward, which signals very clearly that manufacturing is prospering. And by the way,
00:36:54.980 the leading indicator of factories returning to America is construction employment,
00:37:01.640 which rose by another 22,000 in August, factory construction jobs up by 7,800 in the month
00:37:10.040 and up nearly 100,000 since President Trump took office. That's the receipts, my friend. That's
00:37:18.360 what we do here on the war room. We deliver the receipts and Trumpnomics is working. And next
00:37:27.480 question sir well and also in the end i want to go back to the construction and manufacturing
00:37:34.780 because i don't think this gets reported enough i mean scott was pretty tough in the financial
00:37:38.940 times walsh journal others he says hey look i used to call it fake news but now it's even worse
00:37:44.300 than that the data centers the data centers are a very small part of this this is actually and you
00:37:49.360 can see this the big beautiful bills supply side tax cut on manufacturing plus wait for it the
00:37:57.020 centerpiece of trumponomics tariffs the forcing function that are forcing companies to make a
00:38:03.720 decision and manufacture people don't understand this and this is why they they talk about these
00:38:07.940 congressmen and senators i said hey look to get to get an endorsement the first thing they got to
00:38:12.640 sit down is they got to walk through how they believe in tariffs not just happy talk tariffs
00:38:18.400 work they're non-inflationary and part of the part of the reason we've got these magnificent jobs
00:38:25.140 numbers is that tariffs work with they are we are forcing both with a tax cut focused on it
00:38:31.520 and a tariff policy manufacturing and monetary policy and tax policy coming together you see
00:38:38.480 that we're building the foundational element for a manufacturing renaissance in this country
00:38:44.200 of high value added manufacturing jobs dr peter navarro thoughts back to construction jobs not
00:38:53.180 merely today's payroll gains. They're tomorrow's manufacturing jobs, tomorrow's productivity,
00:39:00.000 tomorrow's output, tomorrow's GDP growth. Steve, it's a clear trajectory. The first
00:39:06.800 six months of the administration, it's like, oh, where are the manufacturing jobs? You're
00:39:11.920 failing this, that, and the other thing. We were having a massive construction boom. That
00:39:16.240 construction boom is continuing. And they're tomorrow's manufacturing jobs. You start with
00:39:24.660 the sites, the steel, the cranes, the electricians, the welders, the pipe fitters, the machinery
00:39:29.880 installers. Then you get the production lines and factories. Then you get the payrolls and
00:39:35.320 the rising wages. And I'm telling you, Steve, I can't say this enough. If that Federal Reserve
00:39:41.100 raises rates right now a careless rate hike it would hit precisely the sectors
00:39:47.060 america needs most to prosper factory construction capital investment machinery housing manufacturing
00:39:54.760 and i just hope that those clowns over there that kevin warsh is trying to
00:40:02.560 gather together and do the right thing get get the picture because i i am just not confident
00:40:09.340 and they're just egged on by the financial news press because every time things come out it's
00:40:16.540 like oh they're gonna raise rates yeah yeah go ahead you know we know kevin so hang on let's
00:40:21.640 let me just pull the camera back for a second from the time you came on the campaign in 16
00:40:26.300 and and president trump was and jared had gotten him familiar with your writings back in 15
00:40:30.620 if you just look at the if you look at the 10 years let's take this decade
00:40:34.260 focus on 2019 the fall of 2019 the trump economic plan which is a coordinated effort
00:40:42.380 to return america to be a manufacturing superpower clicked in in 2019 it all converged with you know
00:40:50.600 blue collar wages rising higher than white collar non-college graduates higher than college
00:40:54.520 graduates low inflation uh low interest rates all of it that was a conversion going to lead to a
00:41:00.420 blowout election in 2020 what happened chinese communist party you know released a a dirty bomb
00:41:07.040 uh on us and fauci gave horrible information and now we know we'll get to the book in a second
00:41:12.340 uh all his lies and misrepresentations so and then a 2020 election was stolen and we know now
00:41:18.500 from maria bartiroma getting fired by fox how much people wanted to suppress that information
00:41:23.220 they had to get rid of trump why did they have to get rid of trump they had to get rid of trump
00:41:28.100 because he was putting America first
00:41:30.220 and the American economy first.
00:41:32.020 And the world was saying,
00:41:33.060 hey, these globalists are saying,
00:41:34.220 wow, this guy's real and these policies work.
00:41:37.040 We got to get him out of there.
00:41:38.300 We spent four fricking years in the wilderness
00:41:40.920 and two of us went to prison for this,
00:41:42.800 Navarro and Bannon.
00:41:44.100 We spent four years in the wilderness
00:41:45.700 with Besson and Navarro on this show,
00:41:48.780 hammering, hammering, hammering.
00:41:51.080 This is the way you get it back.
00:41:52.360 This is the way you get it back
00:41:53.500 from the disaster of Biden, these globalists.
00:41:55.700 President Trump won in a fricking landslide on an economic plan that he had conceived 10 years before in the first term.
00:42:03.900 This plan is working.
00:42:06.240 This is why the phony business press or a bunch of English majors don't understand basic economics, run around, skip around.
00:42:13.460 There is a deep change happening in this country.
00:42:16.620 And it's an America first economic policy of President Donald Trump, of the convergence of these forces that are coming back to make America great again.
00:42:28.740 Dr. Peter Navarro, the 10 year arc is very in things.
00:42:33.200 This is like an aircraft carrier.
00:42:35.140 The 10 year arc of this story is obvious to anybody that can see the math.
00:42:40.000 Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:42:41.240 In these 10 years, Steve, you and I, 2016, Trump Tower, we were talking exactly this plan, and now it's just moving.
00:42:52.860 You know I'm working hard with this Fauci book, Why Fauci Should Rot in Prison.
00:42:59.940 And one of the big things in the book is the lockdown.
00:43:03.960 I don't know if you know this, Steve, but I was the sole voice in the West Wing fighting Fauci on that lockdown.
00:43:12.200 It was like crazy stuff. It's like more people are going to die from being locked down than from that virus, Tony.
00:43:20.320 And he never got the message. But the reason why I mention it in the context of this jobs report is that it really had a tremendous negative impact on the labor force participation rate.
00:43:31.840 And among all the other things we're paying for with Fauci and long COVID and people suffering from that, that labor force participation rate still has a little bit of Fauci hangover.
00:43:45.580 So what I thought you must write on prison, you know, on Amazon, I'm trying to get that out.
00:43:52.880 I think it's going to be an important story for the election as well, because it's a contrast between the authoritarian Democrat woke state where one size fits all.
00:44:06.740 They take your passport, they take your job versus the kind of America you and I want to live in.
00:44:14.140 And the America of Trump is America of prosperity.
00:44:18.780 I mean, the contrast between Biden and Donald Trump on the economy and anybody they put going forward.
00:44:28.020 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:44:34.000 Not just Biden.
00:44:35.320 All these neoliberal, neocon Republican rhinos.
00:44:38.840 Look, they fought Trump.
00:44:40.120 They fought Trump actually harder than the they fought Trump harder than the Democrats.
00:44:44.140 It's the reason that the socialists can even have an argument to working class people, not that they got a lot of them listening, right?
00:44:50.860 Because the neoliberal neocon Republicans abandoning working class people.
00:44:56.400 Trump's turned the Republican Party back into a party of the working class, but it's based upon a set of economics, obviously family values, but a set of economics that you can actually have a family unit, that you can actually enjoy the prosperity that, quite frankly,
00:45:12.440 the little platoons that that knit together social society the full faith and credit of the
00:45:18.300 united states which is the american people and the american working man and woman they finally
00:45:22.900 get a little taste they get they get their beaks wet they get a piece of the action that's what
00:45:28.100 these jobs numbers show and my point is this is just not something that came out of nowhere
00:45:32.060 this is a 10-year plan that the globalists have intervened in in 2020 2019 and 2020 to stop at
00:45:39.980 The Chinese Communist Party and The Globalist.
00:45:42.620 Peter, hang on for a second.
00:45:43.620 I know you've got to bounce.
00:45:44.820 I just want to take a few minutes on the other side, talk about the book.
00:45:48.860 Also, Jim Rickards is with us, going to get commentary.
00:45:52.040 We've got a special guest from Semaphore.
00:45:55.060 We're going to talk about the Chinese Communist Party and an alliance of manufacturing nations against them,
00:46:00.600 whether we onshore and focus here or whether we do it in coordination with people.
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00:49:44.600 do we do this why don't we just chase a lot of these random news which is great people do that
00:49:49.280 and that's what they do and that's fine it's great it's entertaining it can get you some insights
00:49:53.560 it's not the main thing this is one of the key main things you must get the american economy
00:50:01.320 turned around the right way not a service economy and all this happy talk you heard from goldman
00:50:07.060 sacks and gary cohen and all these people we can be a service economy no you can't because that's
00:50:12.460 the road to serfdom what donald trump saw and the vision he saw and the reason that he ran for
00:50:19.300 president of the united states and if you didn't have trump besides all of his shortcoming and all
00:50:25.940 the bitching and moaning is if you didn't have trump you wouldn't have a country right now
00:50:32.220 and that's why he's in the category of washington general washington and lincoln as the greatest
00:50:37.760 president united states to save this country and turn it around when it was on a point of a
00:50:43.600 precipice of collapse not simply the globalist clintons you saw what happened during the biden
00:50:49.520 criminal organization and now you got these marxist jihadist at the gate you way you do it
00:50:57.060 the one of the most important things you have to do is do what alexander hamilton had the vision
00:51:03.320 for this nation from the revolutionary generation when he's aide-de-camp to washington and put
00:51:09.380 himself in harm's way we must be a manufacturing superpower full stop and one of the guys that's
00:51:18.040 labored in the vineyard for a decade dr peter navarro your thoughts today before you punch on
00:51:23.220 us uh in your in your book on fauci but talk to me about becoming a manufacturing superpower sir
00:51:28.620 you've dedicated 10 years of your life for this more than that going back to the first book the
00:51:38.280 2006, 10 years before the victory in 2016, the coming China wars, my epiphany that Wall Street
00:51:47.880 and Main Street were not coexisting in the Americas that we know, right? The rhinos,
00:51:55.500 they make their money offshore. And we have fought very hard, Steve, now. It's 10 years from
00:52:01.500 Donald Trump winning that election with the four horsemen of Trumpnomics prosperity. It's the tax
00:52:08.140 cuts. It's the strategic energy dominance. It's the fair trade, certainly the deregulation. And
00:52:16.740 by the way, the fifth thing that binds it all together is the secure borders. So I'm fighting
00:52:23.260 that. And this book I'm working on, Steve, it's up on Amazon to buy right now on October 13th.
00:52:31.600 We're going to have a massive all-day show on Real America's Voice discussion. I need everybody now
00:52:37.300 to buy this book, Why Fauci Should Rot in Prison, because it reminds us, Steve, that they locked us
00:52:44.680 down. They ruined our economy. That's who those people are, the Tallaricos of this world,
00:52:52.180 the Mamdames of this world. We have to remember what they did to us. They locked us down,
00:52:58.580 and then when they let us out, they wanted us to have vaccinations as a way of participating
00:53:05.340 participating in our society. And this is their mindset, Steve. Fauci should rot in prison,
00:53:12.820 Steve. He's got more blood on his hands than anybody I know in this country. And what's the
00:53:19.620 beauty of this book, Steve, is I've got him. I've got him nailed. I've got a way to prosecute him,
00:53:25.700 a way to hold him accountable. And it's a tale of two diaries. His private diary
00:53:30.980 and my public diary shows what he did to America, and it was harm to the maximum degree. Why Fauci
00:53:40.880 must rob prison. See, but today, let us celebrate what has happened with the jobs report going into
00:53:47.780 Labor Day. Let's not bury the lead, okay? This was a Labor Day jobs report for labor. I haven't
00:53:54.780 heard anybody put those two things together, but that's the title of my article in Real Clear
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00:54:17.160 vouching must rot in prison the guy who wrote the forward is pretty good too i think his name's
00:54:23.800 bannon i'm gonna let you go back to work get back to work and let's get another great more great
00:54:31.120 jobs reports manufacturing renaissance from the the head of manufacturing and trade at the white
00:54:39.020 house dr peter navarro jim rickerts i'm so proud this is one of the reasons that you come on this
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00:55:41.140 Okay, Jim Rickards is going to stick with us.
00:55:42.900 We're also going to get Andy Brown from Semaphore talking about a coalition of countries on the trading side against the Chinese Communist Party.
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00:55:54.960 He'll join us from London.
00:55:55.880 Jim Rickards is going to stick with us.
00:55:57.140 Chris Kobach, who testified the other day, one of the smartest guys in the country on all things immigration.
00:56:04.000 The Attorney General of the great state of Kansas will talk to us about birthright citizenship.
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