Bannon's War Room - September 16, 2026


Episode 5668: We Are Heading Towards A Cold War Moment With AI

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00:00:00.000 For example, I received a December 2019 email to FBI agent Joe Payanka, who was heavily involved in a crossfire hurricane.
00:00:14.560 That email contains information that appears to corroborate existing public evidence that President Trump was the target of a political hit and the government knew it many years that it was going on.
00:00:35.480 The email ought to be declassified for the public to draw their own conclusions.
00:00:43.560 Why wouldn't President Trump want all this information about the abuse that he took be declassified?
00:00:52.460 If you get a chance to talk to him, I wish you'd ask him that.
00:00:55.860 The changes are as follows.
00:00:57.240 We established for the first time ever the Law Enforcement Partner Council,
00:01:00.620 putting 1,000 agents back into the field,
00:01:02.600 deployed more than 200 additional intel admins permanently into the field instead of Washington, D.C.,
00:01:06.920 and bolstered our JTTFs, all 56 of them.
00:01:09.340 We added, for the first time ever, in one year, 2,750 task force officers to the FBI, putting trained men and women of law enforcement right in our offices.
00:01:20.960 Wait, I thought you weren't going to be sending people to the polls.
00:01:24.160 When did you hear that?
00:01:26.000 It's just another lie.
00:01:26.520 When you answered Mr. Blumenthal.
00:01:28.240 Nope.
00:01:29.520 So you are sending—
00:01:30.920 We have election crisis coordinators manned at all 56 field offices.
00:01:39.060 This is election integrity is of paramount importance.
00:01:42.200 This FBI is not going to shy away from that effort.
00:01:45.180 And if you want to continue lying about the men and women of the FBI so you can have your four-second campaign ad, go ahead.
00:01:51.120 But the historic results, the 20% reduction in murder rate, the 1,100 terrorist attacks stopped, the 11,000 children found, the 54,000 violent offenders are what this FBI is driving towards, the top 10 most captured, six of the most wanted fraudsters captured.
00:02:07.600 You asked where we're spending our resources.
00:02:10.940 We are spending the resources in delivering the most prolific reduction in crime in U.S. history, crushing violent crime and defending the homeland.
00:02:17.880 And that's where we're going to continue.
00:02:19.140 I ask that my time be restored, Mr. Chairman.
00:02:23.780 Please proceed.
00:02:25.660 This is existential.
00:02:28.140 You told Mr. Blumenthal you weren't sending FBI agents to election sites.
00:02:32.520 You told, and according to Mr. James, you said the FBI is on the way.
00:02:38.500 And this is about whether the United States citizens, Republicans, Democrats, independents are the deciders of this election or this election interference led by the FBI and the Trump administration.
00:02:52.040 That's what this is about.
00:02:53.140 Do you pledge that you will not in any way interfere in the will of the American people when they go to the polls in November?
00:03:02.980 I pledge unequivocally that I will not participate in your charade of lies.
00:03:07.840 By the way, it's been rigged.
00:03:09.840 I want to know how your wealth increased 4,000 percent since you became a United States senator.
00:03:14.480 That's a magic act. All Americans should be available.
00:03:17.340 You going to stop? You done?
00:03:19.460 Do you want some time to speak about it?
00:03:22.720 If you'd give it to me.
00:03:23.760 Go ahead.
00:03:24.560 Sure.
00:03:25.500 The Obama administration subpoenaed countless reporters, did 1,200 interviews of reporters in an investigation into reporters.
00:03:33.640 This administration focuses on the leakers of classified information that endangered the lives of elected officials and American citizens.
00:03:40.320 We are not targeting reporters at any point in time.
00:03:42.880 We are trying to find out who in the government with access to—
00:03:45.540 Mr. Chairman, this is still my time.
00:03:46.980 He can answer at the end of my time, but this is still my time.
00:03:49.460 No, he's not.
00:03:50.280 Your time's up.
00:03:51.220 No, sir, my time is not up. You allowed Mike Lee to go two and a half minutes over, but you had a Democratic senator? You're going to cut off?
00:03:58.960 At a previous meeting, I let you go three hearings over.
00:04:02.480 As you have other people.
00:04:03.480 Sir, he won't answer questions for a committee. He insults Democrats here, and you don't step in.
00:04:09.880 He has a little book by his side that he literally is using to try to intimidate people in the same way he intimidates reporters. 0.99
00:04:16.160 He is a disgrace, sir. And the fact that we are not asking him, in fact, demanding him to answer the most best basic oversight questions is a further testimony to what is bad is not just that we have a rogue FBI agent intimidating reporters.
00:04:31.820 What's bad is that we have Republicans in the Senate that are enabling him to go without any objective oversight or transparency or accountability.
00:04:41.260 Why do you, why do you, why do you, why do you, why do you, why do you, why do you, why do you figure you're something special?
00:04:46.800 Now we've had, I'm not special. My time has now just, my, sir, you are not being balanced in your way.
00:04:54.500 Let's, my time has just now reached what Mike Lee did.
00:04:57.820 And we as a committee have done what you've done before, which is ask him to answer basic questions.
00:05:02.880 He won't even do it in writing.
00:05:04.300 You understand, Mr. Director, why during the Kavanaugh hearings, I let people talk and talk because it takes longer to shut them up than it does to let them talk.
00:05:17.500 Now, you go ahead and say what you wanted to say.
00:05:20.740 I don't have much to say. This guy called me a thug. It's kind of ironic. He's running for president of the United States. He just got his 22nd ad campaign. Next.
00:05:29.140 Senator Graham?
00:05:31.360 I think Senator Graham's ex.
00:05:34.160 Shame on you.
00:05:35.960 Shame on this board.
00:05:37.680 Were you done?
00:05:39.020 I'm done.
00:05:39.480 Somebody behind me is yelling.
00:05:42.700 Yeah, brother, I will repeat what you said.
00:05:44.600 You're getting thrown out, but they can't throw me out.
00:05:46.720 I'm going to hold this man accountable for as long as he's in his job until he gets fired,
00:05:50.440 which he probably will because he's incompetent at his job and continues to do things that merit his removal.
00:05:56.600 Yes, shame on you, sir.
00:05:57.880 Director Patel, were you done?
00:05:59.840 By the way, violent crime arrests by the FBI in New Jersey are up 75%
00:06:03.240 on top of the historic results we've already delivered for the American people.
00:06:06.580 Yeah, thanks to the state police and local police officers.
00:06:09.080 Irrespective of the lies that he continues to tell.
00:06:10.840 Sir, nothing I have said here is a lie.
00:06:12.420 You said your time's up. Are you done or not?
00:06:14.140 No, are you done or not, sir?
00:06:14.920 You want to answer my questions?
00:06:17.120 If you want to answer my questions, go to the next person.
00:06:18.780 Go ahead. 0.98
00:06:19.040 This is ridiculous. What a mockery you are. 1.00
00:06:21.600 You are the biggest mockery in the United States Senate, 1.00
00:06:23.740 and you're sitting next to shit. 1.00
00:06:24.560 Wednesday, 16th September, in the year of our Lord, 2026. 0.99
00:06:29.960 Folks, I just want to tell you, because I've always been curious,
00:06:34.720 and obviously you guys know I read a lot of history and study history.
00:06:38.920 This is kind of United States Senate, 1858, 59,
00:06:50.200 when things started really coming loose.
00:06:52.360 not quite at that level but getting there that's supposed to be the world's greatest
00:06:58.540 deliberative body our own neil mccabe was there neil uh and and and by the way i i'm gonna take
00:07:05.160 i'm gonna take this segment with you i'm gonna ask you to stick around because i gotta go to
00:07:09.340 london for the next segment but i'm gonna come back to you neil you were there you put together
00:07:14.820 this cold open and cash being our former co-host and contributor and you know we've been as critical
00:07:21.480 of cash as anybody he gave as good as he got yesterday i mean that was standing in the breach
00:07:26.240 for hour after hour after hour relentless just personal assaults on cash patel non-stop and i
00:07:34.140 am so proud of the fact of how he stood in there and gave it right back to him he's just not going
00:07:39.000 to sit there and take it from these guys your thoughts you you were there to put us in the room
00:07:42.700 yeah i'll just say from the onset right as a capital you know going to capital as a reporter
00:07:49.980 you're never sure if you picked the right hearing, right? That was the right hearing.
00:07:55.480 I know there were other hearings going on, but that was wild. And what I walked away from it was
00:08:02.140 just the absolute contempt that the Democratic senators had for the FBI director. And in my
00:08:10.180 lifetime, an FBI director was treated with incredible deference and respect. And it was,
00:08:16.640 frankly, an apolitical or nonpolitical job. And obviously, there's some politics involved.
00:08:21.980 But for an FBI director to be treated like that was insane to me. I also thought it was very
00:08:29.280 revealing when Welsh from Vermont said that FBI agents looking into election integrity
00:08:37.340 on election day was an existential threat. It was an existential threat to the Democratic Party,
00:08:43.560 perhaps. But I thought that was revealing. And then, of course, there was so much else going on.
00:08:49.920 You know, we didn't even get into some of the other stuff. But I thought that Director Patel
00:08:55.560 was strong. He was prepared. He was articulate. And he had a complete understanding of what was
00:09:03.620 going on on the field in front of him. And he was that's how he was able to handle all comers, Steve.
00:09:08.980 I want to go to the permission structure here because the Democrats were so beyond the veil on doing this and so over the top.
00:09:22.060 He actually did have kind of permission structure from because the Republican senators got into it, too.
00:09:27.020 I mean, this was a fracas from the beginning and went on hour after hour after hour.
00:09:31.900 They were prepared. They were trying to come and destroy Cash for Tell on national TV.
00:09:35.460 The Republican, a number of Republican senators were not going to have it, including Grassley, who I thought was magnificent.
00:09:41.180 But Cash was ready, too. Talk to me about the Republican senators that essentially not simply had Cash's back, but gave a permission structure for Cash to go on offense.
00:09:53.120 Yeah, I think that Ted Cruz was incredible. Eric Schmidt was incredible.
00:09:57.820 Josh Hawley came in at the end.
00:09:59.140 Remember, even though it goes by seniority, because of floor votes and other committee hearings, senators are coming and going.
00:10:07.600 So Josh Hawley from Missouri came at the end.
00:10:10.340 But these guys were strong.
00:10:12.660 They didn't just give these sort of softball questions to Director Patel.
00:10:17.260 They actually gave him solid questions about how he found those 11,000 missing and exploited children.
00:10:24.940 What were his plans for integrating the FBI with local law enforcement?
00:10:30.380 How is he attacking fentanyl and the fentanyl that was coming over the southern border and continues to find its way in the country?
00:10:38.720 I thought that Senator Pritt, or excuse me, Ashley Moody, was particularly strong on that issue.
00:10:46.640 And so giving Patel the opportunity to make solid, sort of move the ball forward with solid points about the job that he's doing.
00:10:55.480 And frankly, I was impressed because I wasn't always tracking what the FBI has accomplished in the last 18 months.
00:11:01.600 And I was very impressed by his just his command of the detail and the fact that he took the fight back to them, Steve.
00:11:09.300 Give me a minute or two. I want to go back to the Welsh thing, 0.94
00:11:11.580 And particularly what really triggered the meltdown was about Cash having at these election crisis coordinators in FBI field offices, I think 52 of them.
00:11:22.240 That Welch literally just lost it, as did Cory Booker.
00:11:25.060 Walk me through that exchange.
00:11:26.200 it actually started with blumenthal richard blumenthal from connecticut uh where he kind of
00:11:34.120 he was kind of getting uh trying to get uh director patel to sort of commit to not sending fbi agents
00:11:40.960 and you know what what the director was initially saying was that hey these guys are in the office
00:11:46.240 they're not necessarily going to be in the polling stations homeland security is lead on a lot of
00:11:50.660 this stuff and if something happens we'll send our guys and blumenthal said hey are you mean
00:11:56.080 you're not going to, you know, so you'll never send the guys. And Patel was like, hey, if there's
00:12:01.360 a problem, we're going to send our guys. Blumenthal kind of put words in his mouth saying it was a
00:12:06.680 done deal. The FBI is out of the polling stations. But if you listen carefully, Director Patel never
00:12:13.100 said that. And he was very direct. And he and that's why it came up with Welsh again. That's
00:12:17.980 why Welsh, Welsh was under the understanding that Blumenthal had performed some kind of Jedi mind
00:12:24.740 trick on Director Patel committing that the FBI wouldn't even look at election integrity.
00:12:30.240 And that's I think that's why well sort of went off.
00:12:34.240 The this is the Senate.
00:12:37.180 This is the the nicer of the two, correct?
00:12:39.520 So let's see the more gentlemanly or the the greatest deliberative body in the world.
00:12:43.780 When cash goes before and Director Patel goes before the House, it's going to be a burndown
00:12:49.240 session, correct?
00:12:50.200 When does that take place?
00:12:51.280 Since the House is leaving on Friday, do we know when that's scheduled?
00:12:58.060 I don't know that as I'm standing here, but I will tell you that one of the problems may be that because Director Patel was on Devin Nunes' staff at House Intel, that maybe the senators feel he's a man of the House.
00:13:12.800 That is important on Capitol Hill, that senators and Senate staff really don't respect people from the House.
00:13:18.500 So that might be part of that contempt.
00:13:20.860 But I also I walked away with it saying that the Democrats had no fear.
00:13:25.500 None of them were afraid of attacking the president or attacking the FBI or attacking Cash Patel.
00:13:33.220 And so when you when people have no fear, that's actually a signal of something else going on.
00:13:38.700 This is my point about the civil war. It's not just no fear.
00:13:41.580 I think right now no fear. And they feel they're incentivized because Cash said, hey, you got your 30 second.
00:13:46.600 You got your 20 second clip for your your campaign.
00:13:49.840 ad. Anyway, Neil, I'm asking you to hold. We're going to go to London and then come back to you
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00:16:16.400 OK, I'm going to get back to Neil in a moment. I want to I got Andy Brown now from Semaphore in London.
00:16:24.980 Andy, you put up a piece. Let's put it up on the. On the screen from Denver, guys, you can put it up.
00:16:31.800 But it struck me, particularly coming after yesterday, we had this meeting with people in different political philosophies.
00:16:39.200 Some of them are very partisan, like Senator Sanders and myself, talking about artificial intelligence.
00:16:44.080 And one of the, you know, I was trying to lay out a populist nationalist framing of this, and particularly in about the Chinese Communist Party, because everything we're told on this, we can't slow down. 0.95
00:16:56.100 there's no ability for us to get our arms around AGI or super intelligence or because the Chinese
00:17:01.900 China China China China China if you say anything about it you're a decelerationist you're you're a 0.91
00:17:08.680 treason or traitor and you're letting the CCP win and I say hey look let's look at if you make the
00:17:14.880 Cold War analogy we weren't selling uraniums to the Soviets we weren't educating 600,000 of them
00:17:21.120 as engineers here. They weren't working in our labs. We weren't, you know, with some of these
00:17:25.540 people chips, we're looking the other way in the black market. So the compute power is totally ours.
00:17:30.580 Also, they're free riding off our intellectual property, which is obvious. But you put out the
00:17:37.900 case of really Senator Sanders and quite frankly, I think the president in the framing of this. And
00:17:43.880 this is when she's coming and it's a super high priority. You're seeing Henry Kissinger warned
00:17:48.380 about this closest 100th year. Walk us through what was the Kissinger warning? What did he
00:17:54.840 recommend to do years ago? And how is that playing out today? Yeah, so obviously, Henry Kissinger
00:18:02.380 is best remembered as the architect of US-China, Dayton, Nixon's 72 opening to China. He was there,
00:18:11.800 he organized it. But actually, he made his name years earlier in the 1950s, writing about the
00:18:20.080 nuclear threat and arms control. And in fact, he was arguing at the time that the US should move
00:18:30.020 towards, and the Soviet Union should move towards smaller weapons, battlefield weapons,
00:18:35.020 to avoid this total annihilation. It was a controversial idea then. It's still controversial
00:18:39.720 today. In his later years, just before he died, he died in 2023 at the age of 100,
00:18:47.440 he became an AI doomer. And he became convinced that AI was far more powerful, far more destructive.
00:18:55.640 And he was incredibly prescient about this way before ChatGPT, way before Silicon Valley had
00:19:02.060 woken up to this threat. Kissinger got it. And he said, look, AI is far more powerful than nuclear.
00:19:08.280 It can destroy anything, anybody, anywhere with any form of destruction, not just nuclear, biological pestilence.
00:19:20.460 He thought it could actually destroy human thought.
00:19:22.760 He thought actually it could destroy the human mind.
00:19:25.180 It could destroy human beings as human beings.
00:19:29.000 And so he said, look, you know, we've got to get this under control.
00:19:32.000 we really do have to have the United States and China, the world's two AI superpowers,
00:19:38.120 getting together to talk about this to limit the risk. And his template was the template that he
00:19:43.700 had used in the era of the Soviet Union. And he said, you know, we've just got to put in place
00:19:51.560 something that looks like nuclear arms control for the AI era. What my piece is saying is that,
00:19:59.220 And look, Fabio, for me to disagree with Dr. Henry Kissinger, of all people, but I just don't think that today the nuclear analogy is helpful at all in understanding where we are with China and the prescription of what to do about it.
00:20:15.520 and so what do you mean by that because they are talking i mean senator sanders ended with
00:20:22.200 talking about hey we have to have essentially a rapprochement with china we have to sit down and
00:20:27.440 and he was saying he's sending over to the white house before she shows up where there would be
00:20:32.700 essentially like a test ban treaty right between the united states and in china on artificial
00:20:38.680 general intelligence super intelligence and there would be some negotiation and and both sides will
00:20:43.760 work it out. I take a much more nationalist, hey, we've got to shut these guys down because we can
00:20:48.260 shut them down. What is your thoughts? If you're saying that his framework doesn't work, what does
00:20:53.880 work? It doesn't work. So everybody says that the US and China are in a new Cold War. And in many
00:21:01.940 ways, that is true, right? I mean, they compete militarily, on the security front, technologically,
00:21:08.500 ideologically you name it in across all domains but there is this one key crucial difference
00:21:17.640 and that is in the that that is when it came to nuclear with nuclear the united states and russia
00:21:26.440 the united states and the soviet union were both at the frontier okay uh they both had a sort of
00:21:32.980 they called it a balance of terror mutually assured destruction they both had nuclear weapons that
00:21:37.720 could essentially obliterate the other. When it comes to AI, that is just not the case. The United
00:21:45.260 States is at the frontier. China is lagging the frontier. Some people say it's about six months
00:21:51.600 behind on the most advanced models. We know that China is behind because they'd have to distill 0.92
00:21:57.260 U.S. models to improve their own or to come up with their own. Anthropic the other day came up 0.89
00:22:03.540 with a report saying that Chinese models are actually bouncing queries from China through to
00:22:08.720 Claude to get the answer. And in the process, spilling all kinds of secret data into the
00:22:16.340 United States, which is a real national security risk as far as the Chinese are concerned.
00:22:21.040 So the point is that so long as China is lagging the United States on AI, there is no way that 0.95
00:22:28.480 they're going to sit around a table and negotiate a pause or negotiate even to negotiate safeguards, 0.63
00:22:35.940 they will see that as a trap, a trap which is designed to cement U.S. leadership, U.S. advantages
00:22:42.940 in AI. Chinese officials are not going to sit around a table with the United States
00:22:49.840 and negotiate the terms of their own surrender. That's the bottom line.
00:22:53.640 what about people i'm going to come back to that because it's absolutely brilliant um what about
00:23:00.720 people are saying hey that we have to unilaterally because there's a six-month gap we have to
00:23:04.960 unilaterally make the labs stop any more progress and particularly progress to agi leave aside the
00:23:12.960 fact of the dangers of that because that's what i call the our own regulatory issues but strategically
00:23:18.020 against china and that we can persuade i've had a number of people yesterday people have come on 0.69
00:23:23.540 the show, we can persuade China to also stop. You're saying that's ludicrous, right?
00:23:30.800 First of all, if we just stop, they have no incentives to stop, correct?
00:23:37.520 Just to step back for a moment, right? For a long time, the Chinese have been utterly convinced 0.98
00:23:44.880 that the United States will not accept China as a peer. They think that the U.S. doesn't just want
00:23:53.180 to outcompete China. They think that the U.S. wants to destroy China, grind it into dust.
00:24:00.360 It wants to bring down the CCP. It wants to, you know, dismantle the country. They keep saying
00:24:06.920 that. They're very, very clear about that. Hang on, stop, full stop, full stop,
00:24:13.080 because I could hug you right now if you were here. I want you to repeat to the audience of
00:24:17.500 what they believe, because in the United States, all you have is these people saying, oh, they're
00:24:23.320 a peer, you look at our defense, they're a peer competitor, they're a strategic competitor,
00:24:28.260 all of it. In their own mind, they do hear the war room, right, and see what we're trying to do here,
00:24:34.960 which is there, and I'm open, we want their total and complete destruction. We don't see them as a 0.96
00:24:39.360 peer. We see them as a danger to Lao Bajing and the American citizens. But you're saying, as you 0.60
00:24:44.660 see it and you study it, they actually believe that also, correct? Oh, they believe that the
00:24:50.820 United States won't be satisfied until they get China's complete surrender. And look, here's a
00:24:56.640 thing. In industry after industry, okay, China actually has taken the lead, right? So you can
00:25:01.200 look at robotics, batteries, EVs, they're just about to take over global pharma. It's all true.
00:25:06.640 This one area now, this vital area, which is AI, and of course, the United States has the
00:25:14.640 lead, and that is where the leverage is. This, from the Chinese perspective, is the final showdown, 0.92
00:25:20.960 the ultimate showdown, okay? So, you know, that this can negate China's lead in all of these 0.97
00:25:27.700 other areas. In a sense, this is kind of like the US Hail Mary. We've got AI. And look, they're not
00:25:33.840 wrong. The US, by choking, as you said earlier, the US by choking off supplies of semiconductors,
00:25:39.540 by cracking down on their access to data centers where they can do all their data learning
00:25:46.580 outside of China through all kinds of sanctions, the United States actually does have the capacity
00:25:53.200 to slow China down. And then, of course, they're utterly convinced. The Chinese are utterly 0.77
00:25:57.500 convinced that's what the Americans will do. That's exactly what China would do. I mean, 0.87
00:26:02.620 this is zero-sum competition. That's the way that they look at it.
00:26:09.540 then why is the why that is absolutely the strategic logic rent there's no doubt
00:26:16.300 why this is virtually the political class wall street silicon valley venture capitalists like
00:26:22.500 sequoia and the company's up why and jensen wong who's going to be sitting next to xi at the at
00:26:29.040 the state dinner why are the ruling class in this country of both political parties all of it why
00:26:35.320 are they still basically underwriting china in this in this uh in this uh in this twilight struggle
00:26:42.980 sir so i i think jensen huang makes a somewhat different argument his argument is that if you
00:26:51.380 try to choke off the supply of u.s tech to china that you just incentivize the chinese to double
00:26:59.140 down on self-reliance and that's that i've heard that a million times you you study them you know 0.96
00:27:06.840 them better than anybody that's ludicrous they can't go any harder you think the chinese are 0.98
00:27:12.400 going to be incentivized but they can't go anyway andy hang her for one second i i want to hold you 0.95
00:27:18.380 just for a couple of minutes on the other side andy brown read the piece in semaphore
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00:29:48.040 okay i've i've bugged andy to stay around for a couple more minutes andy uh real quickly your
00:29:54.560 background you're over at semaphore and i keep telling people ben smith's site does such an
00:29:59.960 amazing job on economics, finance, geopolitics, but I keep telling people you understand the
00:30:06.360 Chinese Communist Party at a level that I think a lot of commentators don't. What's your background?
00:30:12.340 So I lived my whole life in Asia, 50 years or more in Asia, most of my life. I was a
00:30:20.020 journalist in China for decades. I was the Wall Street Journal's bureau chief. I worked with
00:30:25.620 Bloomberg. I maintain contacts in China with people at different levels of business,
00:30:35.860 government. I try to keep my ear to the ground of what's happening there. Plus, of course,
00:30:40.180 all the China commentary here in the US. So China, in many ways, has been my life. I'm
00:30:46.120 trying to understand where they're coming from on all of these questions. Nothing is more important
00:30:51.440 right now than AI and the struggle for the future of AI. And I think the state visit coming up now
00:30:57.920 with this summit between Xi and Trump where AI is going to headline the talks, I just think this is
00:31:06.240 a defining moment in many ways in the relationship. Okay, that's perfect. How do people, this
00:31:12.840 audience, this working class, middle class audience of the MAGA right, how do they immerse
00:31:17.940 themselves. I wanted to get as much information from you that you put out, plus anything else
00:31:21.860 you can recommend, because we have to immerse ourselves. This is a defining moment. I think
00:31:26.400 this is actually a hinge of history right now. Where does our audience go, sir?
00:31:34.600 I think it's really important to listen to and read what the Chinese themselves are saying.
00:31:44.300 And fortunately, there are great resources in the English language where you can do that on Substack.
00:31:51.680 People like Julian Gewurz writes great stuff where he's looking.
00:31:54.960 This is what the China Daily is saying, OK?
00:31:57.500 This is what Chinese tech leaders are saying.
00:32:02.180 Bill Bishop, Sinocism, a lot of websites.
00:32:05.740 I think, you know, read what the Chinese are saying.
00:32:09.020 immerse yourself in that before you start listening to the spin that politicians put on it. I think
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00:33:47.040 the White House after Wayne. I want to get this up here. Wayne, you know, we had in the first block
00:33:52.380 cash just getting the tar knocked out of him yesterday of course he gave as good as he got
00:33:56.840 but the thing that really triggered him was the fbi crisis coordination centers at the fbi field
00:34:02.680 offices 52 and welch and blumenthal and cory booker went off on him the audience is concerned
00:34:08.700 and you took you brought down the house at the coalition summit uh last week the coalition
00:34:14.480 members the people that are the intellectual integrity save america is not going to get done
00:34:19.420 And you've come up with another alternative, the NEED Act.
00:34:23.400 Tell me about this national emergency, because, brother, the hour is late.
00:34:26.960 And what are we going to do on this, Wayne Allen Root?
00:34:29.720 Well, you know, I thought I thought it opened up with something kind of interesting.
00:34:33.520 And by the way, let your staff know I'm getting reverb.
00:34:35.960 So every word I say is coming back to me.
00:34:38.180 Not easy to talk when every word comes back to you.
00:34:41.080 But I wanted to read.
00:34:42.980 It's just it's literally like three sentences.
00:34:44.980 But this is a note that I got just this morning from someone who follows my show who hates us.
00:34:52.880 And I want you to hear the hate of the Democrats for people like us, Steve.
00:34:57.740 It's important to know how our enemy feels. 0.55
00:35:01.580 Wayne, I don't approve of the death penalty, but I wouldn't shed one tear if Trump and everybody working under him were hanged. 0.96
00:35:09.980 hanged, not the quick and merciful ways which kills instantly, but the kind which strangles 0.96
00:35:17.460 people in a slow, agonizing way, including you, Wayne. I hope Trump dies as soon as possible 1.00
00:35:26.200 and will be tortured for eternity the way that he richly deserves to be. Signed, Robert. 1.00
00:35:33.580 This is the hate that the left has for us, that you saw in Charlie Kirk's last moments and their response to Charlie Kirk's assassination and their desire to see Trump and you and me dead. 0.99
00:35:49.300 These are horrible people. 0.86
00:35:51.500 The ends justify the means.
00:35:54.120 Solinsky said that.
00:35:55.440 They believe it.
00:35:56.500 They've been trained by Solinsky, Steve. 0.95
00:35:58.700 They'd like us dead.
00:35:59.980 If they get power, don't think that there won't be a chance that we wind up dead.
00:36:05.140 So we can't give them power.
00:36:08.080 We have to stop the steal.
00:36:10.880 Trump, I hope, understands that the $5,000 dividend is meaningless.
00:36:17.120 Nothing will work if they're able to rig and steal an election again.
00:36:23.120 They stole 20.
00:36:24.740 They've stolen untold numbers of House seats and Senate seats.
00:36:29.140 They keep counting for days after the election. No judge is on our side. The Supreme Court is not
00:36:36.360 on our side. There's only one way to secure the election and get it done before the midterms.
00:36:42.720 And that's my idea. National Security Emergency for Elections. But I gave it a cute name because
00:36:48.960 Trump likes acronyms and he likes names that are branded and memorable. So it's the NEED Act,
00:36:55.120 National Emergency Election Declaration, the NEED Act. He's got to get it done. He has the right
00:37:03.340 to get it done. The Supreme Court ruled, as I've said on your show so many times in 1983,
00:37:10.420 Chada versus INS, that you can't overturn a presidential national security emergency
00:37:17.460 with a legal challenge. So they can't challenge it. They could only beat them with a two-thirds
00:37:23.400 vote of both houses of Congress. And Mike Johnson just said, we're going home tonight.
00:37:28.620 So the House won't be there. They'd have to come back for an emergency session to try and get a
00:37:34.560 two-thirds vote to overturn Trump's national security election. They're not going to get it
00:37:39.680 in a Republican-controlled House, and they're not going to get two-thirds in the Senate either.
00:37:44.560 So Trump will have security in place for the midterms. I'm not sure if he can get
00:37:50.720 everything in place, but he'll certainly have voter ID, proof of citizenship, and some sort of
00:37:57.060 limits to mail-in ballots. And that's what I want to happen. And I hope he's listening.
00:38:03.820 Do you think that for every reason, because President Trump made this his legislative
00:38:08.940 priority, but is there any reason that people around the White House, around him, don't
00:38:13.560 understand the hour is late and this is an emergency? Because we need this done, like,
00:38:18.000 because it's going to be challenged immediately in the courts, as you know.
00:38:21.640 And since the House is gone, there's no way to do this legislative.
00:38:24.540 It's got to be done.
00:38:25.260 The only method we have is the method that you lay out.
00:38:27.540 And we have many people saying, hey, we love what Wayne's doing,
00:38:30.540 but that's going to get challenged and it'll never hold up in the courts.
00:38:32.980 But that's a fight for another day.
00:38:34.520 It's just the initiating contact.
00:38:36.940 We have to have the initiating contact.
00:38:38.980 Do you see this happening, Wayne Allen Root?
00:38:42.640 Look, it's up to Trump.
00:38:44.260 It's up to the president of the United States.
00:38:46.180 I don't know what his staff thinks of it. I have no idea how many of them around him are cautious and won't allow him to do this.
00:38:52.920 I don't know if they can overrule him. He's the president. I don't know if he's willing to overrule them.
00:38:58.140 I don't know if he has to overrule them. I just know I've been hammering away and hammering away, trying the best we can.
00:39:05.140 It was an article today at the Gateway Pundit. Sorry about my voice. I do so much talking, Steve. It's wearing out.
00:39:11.460 But there was an article at the Gateway Pundit today by Peter Tickton and Jerome Corsi.
00:39:17.280 Both of them are friends with the president, just as I am.
00:39:20.380 Both of them election integrity people, just as I am.
00:39:23.880 And they're urging the president to support Wayne Root's Need Act.
00:39:28.220 They literally said that in their article.
00:39:31.320 So I've got some cavalry.
00:39:33.280 I've got some reinforcements.
00:39:37.460 Let me ask you before I let you go.
00:39:40.080 Do you believe if this is not signed and not executed like you say it must be, that we have a chance of having a free and fair election on November 3rd, sir?
00:39:50.940 No, impossible.
00:39:52.900 Democrats know that this is the whole enchilada, the whole ball of wax, the whole kitten, what is it, kitten caboodle.
00:39:59.120 I'm coming up with every phrase I come up with.
00:40:01.160 This is it.
00:40:02.420 They stop the Trump presidency right here. 0.99
00:40:05.240 If they win the midterm, Trump is the ultimate lame duck.
00:40:10.140 He gets nothing passed for the last two years. 0.61
00:40:12.920 He sits at the White House and, you know, plays with his fingers.
00:40:16.940 Hey, hey, hey, hey, I don't know what he does.
00:40:19.160 He plays golf.
00:40:20.360 I don't know what he's going to do.
00:40:21.260 He's going to give out pardons.
00:40:22.900 It's going to be first.
00:40:24.020 No, this is going to be Fort Apache.
00:40:26.160 They're going to come.
00:40:26.880 They're trying to impeach Pete Hexeth today.
00:40:31.520 They're going to impeach Bobby Kennedy.
00:40:33.280 They're going to impeach Pete Hexeth.
00:40:35.240 They're coming after Trump with impeachment. Not just that.
00:40:38.240 Investigations, subpoenas.
00:40:39.960 It's going to be every day is going to be like Watergate back thing with headlines in The Washington Post, headlines in New York Times.
00:40:44.620 That's what I'm saying. The presidency is over if you lose the midterms.
00:40:48.880 And then because you accomplished nothing for the last two years, nothing at all, then we have a big disadvantage going into 28.
00:40:56.100 Plus, Trump is never going to run again.
00:40:58.420 So is Rubio or J.D. Vance the type of campaigner that Trump is? No.
00:41:03.880 Do they have the charisma that Trump does? No.
00:41:06.080 Do they have the celebrity that Trump does? No.
00:41:08.540 Name a Republican that won last time without Trump at the top of the ticket.
00:41:12.640 No one's won since George W. Bush.
00:41:15.200 20 years since a Republican has won the presidency other than name Trump.
00:41:19.140 So my question to you is, how do we win in 28?
00:41:21.840 We probably don't.
00:41:22.780 So if you don't win in 26, you don't win in 28.
00:41:24.840 If you don't win in 28, we're not in control of the census, 0.97
00:41:28.140 which means they'll allow illegal aliens to be counted in the census. 0.98
00:41:31.620 And then it's all over. America's finished. So everything is about the midterm. If we don't win it, it's doubtful we're ever going to win again. We have to win the midterm. If they're allowed to rig it and cheat and steal, we're not going to win the midterm. We need the NEED Act. We need to make elections secure. We need President Trump to ride in with the cavalry. We need President Trump to make America great again. 0.87
00:41:57.200 Hence the word need, the NEED Act, National Emergency for Elections Declaration.
00:42:03.220 If he does it and he has a right to do it as a president, we can win the midterm still.
00:42:08.240 George H.W. Bush was down 18 points in early September when he ran for president.
00:42:15.920 And guess what happened?
00:42:16.720 He won by six.
00:42:18.220 OK, the biggest turnaround in the history of presidency.
00:42:20.660 It can be done.
00:42:22.440 He had Lee Atwater running his campaign.
00:42:24.280 It was the Willie Horton commercials.
00:42:25.880 they turned everything around.
00:42:27.720 I believe my NEED Act could turn everything around.
00:42:31.700 Wayne, we got 30 seconds.
00:42:33.740 Social media, where do they go to get everything related to Wayne Allen Root, sir?
00:42:38.540 Sure.
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00:43:15.320 Wayne, very powerful.
00:43:16.780 We'll make sure everybody reads the Gateway Pundit story,
00:43:18.760 and we will do whatever is in our powers
00:43:20.940 to make sure the correct people see this.
00:43:22.920 Thank you, brother.
00:43:24.280 Powerful.
00:43:25.000 You heard it from the man. You heard it from the man.
00:43:31.600 I don't know if you disagree. I agree with Wayne Allen Ruth.
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00:46:35.600 Neil McCabe at the White House did you just hear Wayne Allen Root I want your thoughts on that and
00:46:42.160 particularly is there any sense of urgency at the White House because if we lose the midterms
00:46:47.340 and particularly you lose the house you saw yesterday that was the senate that's supposed
00:46:50.460 to be the nice guys the gentlemen if you lose the house that the the White House are going to become
00:46:56.560 Fort Apache, sir. Yeah, I don't sense some urgency because they're focusing on, you know,
00:47:06.280 the war and other things. And the legis, the judge, the guy who's in charge of Capitol Hill,
00:47:11.540 James Brate, he left, he hasn't been replaced yet. And so, you know, I just wonder, you know,
00:47:17.140 when you look at the War Powers Act vote in the House, you know, who's whipping this? How do you
00:47:21.960 have seven republicans vote against the president on and i understand it's symbolic but it's symbolic
00:47:28.580 the wrong way when seven republicans two from iowa are voting against the president on the third
00:47:34.900 gulf war and so you know you just have to say you know somebody should pay attention to these things
00:47:40.440 because because you don't want to build momentum you don't want to have develop some consistency
00:47:45.160 going the wrong way you want to stop that momentum and get it back going your way
00:47:50.380 and i want you to repeat what you felt yesterday being in the room there's not only no fear by the
00:47:57.460 democrats they believe and i believe they know this is what their folks want so they're doubling
00:48:03.640 and tripling down in these senate hearings imagine what the house is going to be and this is where we
00:48:08.740 still control the gavel and still control the chamber sir right so you heard senator booker
00:48:15.960 who, frankly, I've been in enough hearings with him. He has very severe anger issues and, you know,
00:48:22.400 just ranting and ranting through Chairman Grassley's gavel. This is the Senate Judiciary Committee.
00:48:30.940 Grassley is the Senate. He's a president pro tempore of the United States of America, right?
00:48:37.420 He's like third in line or he's right behind the Speaker of the House. It's like this is Grassley
00:48:43.960 is a dean a lion of the senate and booker just plows right through his gavel it was not it was
00:48:51.300 not only was it no fear it was also that tinge of contempt and confidence just extreme confidence
00:48:59.040 as they were running up the score or at least thought they were running up the score but cash
00:49:03.500 patel you know he can catch arrows and he can fire him back i think he really stood up for uh the
00:49:09.220 senate and for the president's programs and for himself and i think a lot of people can learn
00:49:13.760 from what Kash Patel did at the Senate Judiciary Committee. One more thing. As we talked about
00:49:20.060 earlier today, this report that, of course, it's from the Saudis, but report that the Houthis sent
00:49:26.920 a drone, at least one drone near Mecca, and now they're making a huge deal.
00:49:33.520 This situation in the Middle East appears like it's spinning more and more out of control. 0.67
00:49:38.700 Would you concur with that? 0.93
00:49:42.760 Well, I think it was significant that the Houthis could take five islands and two ports, virtually uncontested.
00:49:50.760 Now we're seeing that the Saudi Air Force is pounding Houthi targets as we speak.
00:49:56.780 And obviously we have huge base at Djibouti right across the water from Yemen.
00:50:03.640 So we'll see how that happens, how that plays out.
00:50:06.180 But when you talk about no fear, you know, the Iranian foreign minister met with the foreign minister of China in Beijing.
00:50:14.140 So I guess they're cool, too. So they don't have any worries about the United States, apparently.
00:50:21.940 Neil, where do people go for your columns, where they go for all your everything you're putting up between your hits here on the Real America's Voice Network, sir?
00:50:31.320 you can find me on all the socials at reporter mccabe and check out my groundbreaking journalism
00:50:39.400 at the south shore press sir thank you neil appreciate you appreciate you sticking around
00:50:46.320 today the most important issues not just facing the country but facing mankind
00:50:55.300 people come here or they invite us to conferences to speak why they it's not about me they want to
00:51:05.680 know about you they want to know what you think they want to know where you are because when
00:51:13.460 in the tradition of patriots in this country back to the 250th anniversary of the beginning
00:51:21.620 of this republic, the long fight to win it. It's the common sense of the American people,
00:51:26.640 the grit and determination of the American people, no matter what the odds are.
00:51:30.560 At the revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War II,
00:51:33.900 the odds were long in all of those. And guess what? We fought our way through all three of them.
00:51:40.600 We're going to have to fight our way through this one too, folks, and it's on your shoulders.
00:51:45.980 On your shoulders. We're going to leave you with Never Forget by Chayat Prather. I think
00:51:51.340 it's a very good anthem for our time, not just about 9-11, but everything that 9-11
00:51:56.880 is emblematic in our country. Ben Harnwell's next. I'm back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
00:52:07.320 We're trying to get the Matt Gaetz. I think Matt's in town. We're going to try to get Matt
00:52:11.700 here in the world like the old days. Maybe have a strategy session with one of the most brilliant
00:52:16.100 young minds in all politics. We're going to leave you with Chad. Ben's next. Stick around.
00:52:22.680 We'll see you back here tomorrow morning when you'll be back in the world.
00:52:46.100 Remember the planes, remember the phone calls, remember the names, remember the widows, the daughters and sons, remember the day we remembered we were one.
00:52:58.940 So never forget, don't just say the words, never forget, remember all freedom's really worth, raise up the flag, get down and pray.
00:53:14.640 Tell your kids what happened that day
00:53:18.000 Never forget
00:53:19.660 Never forget
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