00:00:00.000of Congress's emails or text messages.
00:00:06.460We sought toll record subpoenas that did not contain the content of calls.
00:00:14.260I am also aware that we sought White House phones for individuals who are relevant to
00:00:21.360our investigation, government phones in which they had no expectation of privacy.
00:00:25.800Let me ask you this way. Did you sink the content of messages from members of Congress by other means, meaning the subpoenas you sent to the other 197 organizations asking for communications from members of Congress?
00:00:40.200Because you've said you didn't as it relates to members of Congress, but did you do it through another means, the other 197 subpoenas?
00:00:47.200I can't address every subpoena we issued.
00:00:51.600What I can say is that I am aware that in the example of Congressman Perry, prosecutors, this is before I was special counsel, did in fact seek a search warrant and receive judicial authority for a search warrant of his telephone.
00:01:08.700Thank you, Mr. Smith. In closing, I just want to say, in the famous words of the chief of the secret police under Stalin of show me the man, I'll show you the crime. You may think you're a hero in this story, but let me tell you something. You're the villain. You've done so much damage. As a former prosecutor, I can say there's so much damage the trust and faith people have in our system.0.75
00:01:31.100You have weaponized the Department of Justice against political enemies to an extent that has never happened in the history of this country.
00:03:26.160And they're trying to say this is partisanship.
00:03:28.020my records were swept up, my text messages were part of it, Karen Bass's text messages were a part
00:03:34.660of it, and dear God, one of the greatest attempts to undermine our democracy since the Confederates
00:03:41.220betrayed this nation and started the Civil War, that's what this was. When you went to Judge
00:03:47.300Boesburg, you didn't even tell him you were seeking the phone records of members of Congress,
00:03:54.340did you because you knew he wouldn't agree he he would he would say hey counselor anybody who knows
00:04:01.460a law book from a j crew catalog knows that this violates the constitution but you didn't tell him
00:04:07.380did you uh we sought non-disclosure orders from you didn't tell him did you in seeking
00:04:15.860non-disclosure orders we did not didn't tell him but you're unbiased you you you have no personal
00:04:23.300feelings you make me want to throw up in my mouth mr. chairman mr. chairman his
00:04:34.680times up I'd like to say a word this hearing is of constitutional and
00:04:40.220historic importance this witness should be allowed to answer the questions
00:04:45.420complete a sentence we have given that courtesy to witnesses from both political
00:04:50.720parties and it should be extended to Mr. Smith. Your time's up Senator Kennedy. I'd also like
00:04:56.620with respect Dick for the for the chairman to instruct the witness he's not Bambi's baby
00:05:04.080brother okay he's been around everybody knows him and he was famous or infamous even before
00:05:10.760he was hired to prosecute President Trump and I'd like you to instruct him not to not not to
00:05:16.360federal busters. Do you have any evidence whatsoever to believe that I and 20 percent of
00:05:22.900the members of the Republicans in the Senate will engage in destruction or tampering of evidence
00:05:30.280and intimidation of potential witnesses? No, we had powerful evidence that Donald Trump and his
00:05:36.360associates. Am I Donald Trump? You are not, sir. Are the members of the Senate Donald Trump?
00:05:41.100no was this order directed at donald trump
00:05:45.520no i believe that your office draft this order that judge bozberg signed and he signed them like
00:05:52.320he was signing denny's menus one at a time over and over and over again facts be damned did your
00:05:57.420office draft this uh i'd have to look but i'm assuming that's the correct order and if so we
00:06:04.400did and i'm happy to explain why we did if you'd good i want you to tell us right now are you an
00:06:09.500officer of the court? Yes. I want to tell us, did you have a shred of evidence
00:06:14.400that 20% of the Republicans in the Senate will destroy evidence and intimidate witnesses?
00:06:24.380We had a strong reason to believe that Donald Trump would destroy evidence. That was not
00:06:30.220directed at Donald Trump. It was stated disclosing it to members of the Senate.
00:06:34.680No, it was stated it disclosing it to anyone. And we do not have to wait for someone to be injured, for an investigation to be obstructed. We had strong reason to believe that Donald Trump would obstruct our investigation, given the obstruction alleged in the Florida indictment, given the attempts to intimidate witnesses in the election case, given the threats that were later made to witnesses in the election case.
00:07:02.320I'd write about what the current state of affairs is, but it seems to me it'll be really hard for anybody to take action against Eileen Cannon except the 11th Circuit.
00:07:13.600So it almost doesn't matter whether or not it's the time of the midterms and do the Republicans keep hold of the House, do the Democrats take it back?
00:07:24.540It's really about that judicial decision.
00:07:26.960Jake, how long are we going to be continuing to talk about 2020, continuing to entertain this idea that Donald Trump lost an election or won an election that he lost?
00:07:38.460I don't know. I've stopped talking about it. We don't we don't really pay much attention to this stuff, to be honest with you.
00:07:44.580I don't know why I just there's a million things that are happening up here and I can't be bothered by this nonsense, to be to be frank with you.
00:07:51.820But let's just say one thing. If if Republicans lose the majority in a couple of weeks, as as people expect, there's going to be a wave of people who don't want to put up with this Trump stuff anymore.
00:08:03.220There's just going to be a wave of people, of Republicans who are not interested and who have now.
00:08:09.040You know, Trump will be the only president to lose the House twice, Katie, 2018, if they lose in 2026, the only president to lose the House twice.
00:08:17.320um it's not a recipe for success clearly if he loses the majority what he has done has not been
00:08:23.720a recipe for success there are going to be people who want to move on remember when biden took office
00:08:28.280in 2021 there was a rash of bipartisan legislating people the the people who are the loudest are
00:08:35.800still talking about this katie but there's a big majority of people who just want to do normal
00:08:40.340legislative things and not be involved in this kind of stuff well that's going to be my other
00:08:45.440question is, how do they work? I mean, just watching that hearing today, it seems like
00:08:49.080there's such animosity. How do they work together? You're saying that this is a minority of even the
00:08:53.820Senate? I mean, this is a hearing, right? So like this, they are incentivized to perform.
00:08:58.880But it's, but the sad thing is with a lot of people, it's not only hearings. There's a lot,
00:09:02.540some people are still talking about, you know, 2020, a half a dozen years ago on a regular basis.
00:09:08.100But there are people who like, there's a massive permitting reform bill that's coming through.
00:09:12.560there's efforts or not efforts on AI. I mean, we're at like this massive inflection point
00:09:18.060and it's the goofiest thing on earth to be talking about an election that was six years ago. The
00:09:23.120dude's back in the White House. Like they got to move. Everyone has to move on from this.
00:09:27.000Is it that they feel like they have to, they just have to do the bidding of the president
00:09:30.640or is it that they genuinely believe that they were wronged and they're owed money by the
00:09:37.540government? Isn't it two things? They want to please the current president. It's what he wants
00:09:41.980nonstop on television all day long is that the Democrats targeted him and that he rightfully won
00:09:49.140all these elections, even the ones that he didn't. And isn't the other part of it that
00:09:54.360Republicans don't mind trying to say Democrats are bad, evil, politically motivated people
00:10:00.180right before midterm. But is it also that they want money from the government for having their
00:10:05.420toll records subpoenaed? I mean, there was that push for a while. There was. And I noticed Lindsey
00:10:10.920Graham, may he rest in peace, kind of gave up on that ghost, on the idea that he knew that legally
00:10:17.040that was super dubious. Tuesday, 29th September, Year of Our Lord, 2026. So much went on today.
00:10:25.800We're going to get it all for you in the next two hours right here in the war room. Let's start with
00:10:30.020Jack Smith, Mike Davis, the vice-rory, is on the phone. We got Jeff Clark, the Jeff Clark by Zoom.
00:10:37.400Let's go to Mike Davis first. Mike, what did this accomplish today, sir, in your mind, sir?
00:10:45.300Well, Chairman Chuck Grassley on the Senate Judiciary Committee had a very good hearing to lay out the facts that Jack Smith unquestionably politicized and weaponized the Justice Department to go after hundreds of his political enemies, Biden's political enemies.
00:11:05.460And it wasn't just members of Congress. It was hundreds of Republicans. They were subpoenaing their donation records, their phone records. They were illegally spying on members of Congress.
00:11:18.240It helps prove what we've discussed on your show since the Mar-a-Lago raid over four years ago, that this was a partisan hit on President Trump, his top aides, his allies, and many, many others, hundreds of others.
00:11:35.460so is this part of because this thing got very very very heated is this part of a process i mean
00:11:44.880is there a next step because in the motivation of the mega base a lot of people are saying hey
00:11:50.720i thought jack smith would be one of the first guys that we rounded up here for prosecutorial
00:11:56.480abuse do you see this as part of a process or is this just a cya exercise for the senate or was it
00:12:04.040just those guys going off on him because he took he took their toll records sir this is a methodical
00:12:12.480plan by senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley the best oversight member of congress ever this
00:12:20.780is part of a series of hearings hearings that have already happened hearings that are ongoing and i
00:12:28.340would just say to the war room posse you're probably not going to see indictments before
00:12:32.580the midterm election but you will certainly see accountability after the midterm election
00:12:37.900we had um we had uh it was kurt olson i think was announced that he stepped down from the case
00:12:48.600in in florida joe de genova uh the deputy uh fbi director uh andrew bailey announced i think on
00:12:56.840October 2nd, he's going to head back to Missouri. Do you get a sense, Viceroy, that we still have
00:13:02.760the urgency and the agency in pushing these things forward? Because some of the bigger names, you
00:13:08.460know, DeGeneva, Olson, I heard there's five other people that are peeling off of the Florida case,
00:13:15.140and maybe it's a change in strategic direction. But also, you know, also Andrew Bailey, deputy
00:13:20.860head of the FBI. I tell you what, Mike, if you could hold that just through the commercial
00:13:24.480break or give you plenty of runway because obviously the MAGA base and the MAGA movement
00:13:31.640and the war room audience just wants to make sure that accountability, they're held responsible,
00:13:37.540they're held accountable so this can never happen again.
00:13:40.900And it seemed like today this thing turned into a fracas for a while.
00:13:46.140And Jack Smith was as arrogant as he could possibly be.0.78
00:13:48.780I mean, Jack Smith was sitting there calling President Trump a criminal, criminal conspiracy,0.97
00:16:46.660I mean, we could have played a 45 minute, you know, cold open with just a highlight reel.
00:16:52.340But was it just theatrics or is there a methodical process here behind this that in somehow also linked to what's happening in South Florida that's going to hold these deep state people that tried to destroy the country accountable?
00:17:05.280sir senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley my former boss is a workhorse he's not a show horse
00:17:14.020he he doesn't do theater right he does real oversight he's been doing real oversight for
00:17:21.380five decades in the house and then in the senate and he is the most effective at oversight uh you're
00:17:27.960seeing the fruits of his oversight, labor. Now, this is part of a plan to expose what Biden and
00:17:36.200Obama did to politicize and weaponize our intel agencies and law enforcement to go after Trump,
00:17:42.520his top aides like you, Bannon, Navarro, Jeff Clark, who's coming on, his allies.
00:17:49.220Many people were wrapped up into this, whether it was crossfire hurricane,
00:17:53.500whether it was Arctic frost. And the Judiciary Committee is exposing this evidence
00:17:57.600They're working hand in glove with the Justice Department, including Todd Blanche, the attorney general, Cash Patel, the FBI director, Jason Redding-Quinones, my friend, who's the U.S. attorney in Florida.
00:18:10.480I get that justice is slow. Justice is bumpy. And this is not going as fast as we'd like. But justice is definitely coming.
00:18:23.700Remember, it took many, many, many months for Biden to bring indictments against President Trump for bogus charges.
00:18:32.300Jason Redding-Quinones got confirmed by the Senate just over a year ago.
00:18:37.880He immediately moved to open the special grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida.
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00:30:06.400So, Jeff, you think this moved the ball forward, particularly on speech and debate?
00:30:11.900Do you believe it moves the ball forward on ultimately holding Jack Smith and his cohorts accountable for their crimes?
00:30:20.640well steve i'll give the uh the war of posse a teaser then i think he committed uh perjury
00:30:27.680today in several respects and since he has a a week to uh correct his remarks uh for the record
00:30:36.120i don't want to give him hints of what he should do the fix-up job on but stay tuned you believe
00:30:41.120you believe he perjured himself today multiple times in front of the senate judiciary committee
00:30:46.820Is that what I'm hearing? I do. Okay, Clark, you stuck the landing for the hit. Let's talk about
00:30:55.500you've got big news and people are very excited about this. Talk to us about it. Sure. So we are
00:31:02.860launching at the Oversight Project, a new law firm. I had just put out a feeler, Steve, about
00:31:09.700that last week, a little bit before that, maybe to try to get resumes to come in so that when we
00:31:15.480open the doors, which is occurring tomorrow after our big kickoff event, that we would have resumes
00:31:22.480in the pipeline. And instead, I got an overwhelming response, which I did not fully anticipate. That
00:31:28.780tweet got 1.3 million views, 16,000 likes. We've been flooded with resumes and potential requests
00:31:35.740for help. What are we doing? Our project is to run a law firm that's going to run on the public
00:31:42.880interest model, like a lot of the less, you know, efforts do on NGOs. We think that, you know, when
00:31:51.120Republicans are targeted and they're come after, whether they're in an administration or whether
00:31:55.780they're congressional staffers, that a lot of them wind up like, you know, they just don't have the
00:32:00.920money to pay fancy law firms, and they would have to pay higher rates, believe me, than Democrats,
00:32:05.720because, you know, as Mike Davis was explaining, they really rally around their own. So our idea
00:32:11.580is we want to provide either pro bono or low-cost representation to people to help them so that
00:32:21.060when they're targeted again, and I don't pray for this result, God forbid, but if the Republicans
00:32:27.320lose the House or lose the Senate or lose both, if we lose the presidency starting in January 20th,
00:32:34.6002029, they're going to try all the same Jack Smith stuff again, and they're going to have
00:32:39.440learned lessons. They're going to go hammer and tongs after anyone who's associated with President
00:32:44.160Trump to try to make them pay and to try to make sure that no MAGA movement ever gets off the
00:32:49.840ground again. And our idea is that we want to be the law firm to help people resist all of that,
00:32:56.920to be there for them so that we can fight back. And we want to not just do defensive efforts,
00:33:03.320Steve. We also want to undertake significant offensive actions. All of this barfare, right,
00:33:08.740What is barfare? It's the form of lawfare where they try to strip people of their bar licenses.
00:33:14.280And believe me, you know, I know about that. John Eastman knows about that. Rudy Giuliani knows about that.
00:33:19.380I feel like I've almost invented a different playbook about that.
00:33:23.100So the idea is to bring that to help administration lawyers or lawyers, you know, for Republicans on the on the Hill to help them defend against the onslaught that we see coming.
00:33:34.160So tomorrow we're having a big kickoff event.
00:33:36.160And, you know, Tom Klingenstein, who is one of the major supporters of the Claremont folks
00:33:43.340who do excellent, you know, intellectual work, who employ John Eastman as their constitutional
00:33:48.980scholar, he has decided to be the donor to really help kick that off.
00:33:54.300But, you know, as he has put out on his website today, he wants to see other donors come forward.
00:34:00.300You know, like he's like, look, I can't do this alone.
00:34:04.000Other, you know, well-heeled donors who are conservatives, MAGA conservatives, Republicans should come forward and help support our efforts, Steve.
00:34:14.680Tomorrow is like an all-day conference where we're kicking it off.
00:34:17.600And then I'm going to be doing interviews of the new young lawyers who we want to have not just go into private practice to make coin, but who want to serve the public in an NGO on our side of the football for once.
00:34:38.720You're saying up, you're going to get these resumes, all these lawyers, getting great1.00
00:34:41.640young lawyers, some old dogs like you, and it's going to offer up pro bono legal defense1.00
00:34:49.280for all these people that are going to get subpoenaed and criminal charges filed against0.73
00:34:53.980them and everybody that's there that's tried to destroy them like the millions of dollars
00:34:57.220in fees people ran up last time and went bankrupt.
00:35:00.180Yes. So, you know, however many people we can represent, Steve, within our budget constraint, right? And that's why I'm calling for more donations. We need to get bigger. You know, Tom Klingenstein's seed money is going to help us get significantly bigger, but we need to probably get even bigger than that. Because I think, you know, if Jack Smith's operation was huge, if the January 6th operation was huge and went after hundreds of people, this time it's going to be even bigger.
00:35:26.860no this is what i talked about on the morning show uh pasovic do you have a question
00:35:31.880observation well yeah no my question is jeff like just just sign me up now i want to make
00:35:37.000sure i'm on the list already i want the early uh you know i want the early bird special there on
00:35:41.620that i don't know about that you make it too much money you make it too much money as a matinee idol0.82
00:35:46.660over here no no no put it in she told him to do that she says getting no no wives can't testify
00:35:54.120guys can't testify against husbands jack where that's old that's british law british common law
00:35:59.660jeff here's another with that point steve here's another news breaking thing here's one of the
00:36:05.420things that jack smith did he violated my marital privilege we told him my emails with my wife were
00:36:12.120privileged he refused to respect that so jack don't count on that marital privilege if you're
00:36:17.080talking about another maniac partisan like jack smith believe me that's okay she doesn't her
00:36:21.880English isn't that good. She doesn't write email.
00:36:48.580I've got to tell you, throughout the MAGA movement
00:36:50.320in the trump administration this is really going to be welcomed because the left does it but we
00:36:54.560don't do it and now you guys are finally stepping up where do people go to find out more about it
00:36:59.520sure well thanks steve uh i am jeff clark us on x and getter and at real jeff clark on
00:37:06.640true social and the oversight project is uh it's your gov.org
00:37:12.720i-t-s-y-o-u-r-g-o-v dot o-r-g and we are at it's your gov on x
00:37:19.380my calendar team over at oversight just incredible i want to thank you
00:37:24.360jeff for announcing this here today really excited and look forward to getting more of
00:37:29.180you guys on to talk about it appreciate you excellent
00:37:32.240i was going to do i was going to do make america healthy again first but i think i'll get let's
00:37:39.960to your cold open we got we got i mean this is we've got this is so much fun we've got a clip
00:37:44.760we've got a clip we've got a clip from jack posobic and cnn let's go and play it we know
00:37:50.920that we've seen the gen z numbers with the gop we know the numbers are down all the gop had to do
00:37:55.000was not attack young white men between now and election day the only group in america that
00:38:01.720there's no taboo to attack whatsoever is white men and look that's what the gop is now doing it
00:38:07.640It is tone-deaf, it is disgraceful, and honestly, it should be apologized for.
00:38:13.580This should be taken down, and there should be an apology to the young white men in this country.
00:38:20.280I think I have a pretty good grasp of where the Republican base is since I spend my entire living trying to help Republicans unite to win elections.
00:38:27.460And I have seen no one legitimate who is upset by this.
00:38:31.260These are only clickbait profiteers online.
00:39:20.620It's political malpractice to be at 35 days out from an election, as we are, to be releasing
00:39:26.300it at any political forum whatsoever as Republican attacking young white men when we know that
00:39:33.080This is the group that propelled President Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Bobby Kennedy, all the rest to victory in the 2024 historic coalition.
00:39:40.680The same group, by the way, that Charlie Kirk put his sweat and tears into dragging them across the finish line.
00:46:08.900but you you actually work hard you pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like brad who just choose
00:46:15.700not to work that's why i launched a welfare to work requirement almost there now more arkansans
00:46:24.180are working than ever before even brad we know that we've seen the gen z numbers with the gop
00:46:32.820We know the numbers are down. All the GOP had to do was not attack young white men between now
00:46:39.360and election day. The only group in America that there's no taboo to attack whatsoever is white0.71
00:46:44.540men. And look, that's what the GOP is now doing. It is tone deaf. It is disgraceful. And honestly,
00:46:51.260it should be apologized for. This should be taken down and there should be an apology
00:46:56.920to the young white men in this country. I think I have a pretty good grasp of where0.88
00:47:02.200the Republican base is since I spend my entire living trying to help Republicans unite to win
00:47:06.700elections, and I have seen no one legitimate who is upset by this. These are only clickbait
00:47:13.000profiteers online. Let me raise my hand. I'm upset. I'm upset. I'm upset. I'm offended. There are 10 million people who have seen that ad online who agree with me, Brad, so I know you think you know the GOP base, but you might want to check yourself. Let me ask you this. Being a self-styled MAGA influencer who sells clickbait
00:47:29.900Do you know what percentage of welfare recipients in the United States are white men under the age of 25?
00:47:35.940I don't know that I don't look at people's race when I decide what the policy is.
00:47:40.700What percentage of welfare recipients are white men under the age of 25?0.91
00:47:45.120Again, I told you, I don't look at people.