Bannon's War Room - Episode 5704： RAV Continues To Take Over The Pool Feed

00:00:00.000 We have learned that the White House has removed CNN from the press pool covering President Trump's trip to Texas and Oklahoma today, escalating its ongoing dispute with that network.

00:00:10.480 A memo from the White House shared Sunday showed that CNN had been scheduled to travel with the president today, but the network was then left off the updated guidance that was published yesterday for today's Trump events.

00:00:24.360 The move comes a week after a federal judge blocked Trump's effort to ban CNN, MSNOW and Politico from the White House after the White House stopped CNN from flying on Air Force One during Trump's trip to Tennessee last weekend, despite the network having been scheduled to provide the pool coverage.

00:00:42.460 Now, earlier this week, the three outlets asked the federal court to block the White House ban until the case is resolved, saying the administration has persisted in unpredictably and inconsistently implementing its ban, despite a judge's restraining order, including selectively barring CNN from media duties.

00:01:02.580 The headline is the rule of law held. The journalists did return to the White House, as we've covered and I think our viewers know, in short order, under court supervision.

00:01:13.580 That's bad for a White House, particularly one that campaigned on ending cancel culture and supporting free speech, but actually had to be forced by another branch of government to just allow basic press access.

00:01:24.340 So they lost that first round rule of law held. That's the big headline. But the news, as you mentioned this morning, is them, the White House, trying to find other ways to perhaps uphold the letter of the most recent injunction while violating what most people might call the spirit of the First Amendment.

00:01:41.480 Now, in all fairness, is that next step lawful?

00:01:46.500 It may be under the current case law in a different case regarding the AP, which did recognize that a White House has more leeway when dealing with other sort of smaller parts of press access.

00:01:59.480 The Oval Office being mentioned, the plane being another example, where even if we forget that we're dealing with such an anti-free speech president, which he is and he admits to, you could imagine a different administration making what we might call neutral decisions to say we can't let anyone into this or that space.

00:02:17.840 And we thus narrowed it. Is that above board? Is that on the level?

00:02:22.000 you know i try to call it like i see it it seems pretty bad faith given the spirit of the ruling

00:02:28.360 but it may be technically legal and we cover this issue fairly even though as we know ms now is a

00:02:34.060 part of the litigation if it's technically legal then they can experiment with ways to do what

00:02:39.960 donald trump has admitted which is trying to target press that he doesn't like which seems

00:02:45.000 very unconstitutional un-american in spirit but they might find some narrow avenues that of course

00:02:50.800 will also be litigated. This is a president, of course, who claims he's the most transparent

00:02:56.440 in history. That's obviously not the case. I am told by a person familiar with the process,

00:03:00.440 there likely will not be a TV pool today at all because CNN is their turn. They're not being

00:03:06.100 allowed to go. So it looks like the networks are continuing to band together, as we saw last week,

00:03:10.320 which I think is a heartening development. We'll keep you posted on that.

00:03:14.460 Thursday, 1 October, Euroverlord 2026, we have Parker Sigg. Parker Sigg, Jonathan Lemire,

00:03:19.940 That's a bald-faced lie, is it not, sir?

00:03:21.880 We have full coverage today, and the president has full coverage, going to Peterbilt in Denton, Texas, and then going to the rally in Oklahoma, sir?

00:03:31.140 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:03:32.320 It is a bald-faced lie, and I keep hearing this statement over and over again, no TV coverage, no TV camera coverage.

00:03:41.500 We have been there since the beginning of this and beyond that with our cameras out there providing the feeds,

00:03:48.080 And now since this situation has happened, right, we've taken the next step forward in going and not only being there for our own coverage for our network, but putting that coverage out publicly to everybody, networks included, right?

00:04:02.920 We've been talking about this all this week and last week.

00:04:06.020 This is, it's complete and utter nonsense to say that there's no TV coverage of the president during these events at the White House.

00:04:14.940 We've been there.

00:04:15.700 We continue to put it out.

00:04:16.840 It's accessible to everybody.

00:04:18.340 We've been going through this, ravpool.org.

00:04:20.560 It's up there.

00:04:21.400 The live stream is up there.

00:04:23.000 Every single time the president is traveling and we have a camera there, that feed is going

00:04:28.780 to go live.

00:04:29.380 You're going to see that today.

00:04:31.200 As the news cycle has gone around, and you and I were talking last night, we have full

00:04:36.880 pool coverage of both in-town pool and out-of-town pool today, which I can't say for certain

00:04:44.700 has never happened before. But in my memory, I cannot see a time where there has been a network

00:04:51.560 that was both on in-town and out-of-town coverage. And if you go look at the guidance from the week

00:04:57.600 ahead versus the guidance that was for today, you can clearly see CNN was initially listed at one

00:05:03.840 point. Now it is no longer listed. RAV has stepped up to take that position and take that role.

00:05:10.040 And we're going to continue doing that whenever those opportunities are provided. And again,

00:05:14.440 we're going to give that feed out to the public.

00:05:16.800 If CNN wanted to reach out to us via the email and ask for that pool feed,

00:05:21.400 we'd be happy to oblige. They're not going to do that.

00:05:24.540 They're going to continue to be deceitful and lie about the situation as they

00:05:29.460 always have.

00:05:31.380 It's going to be, let me be blunt.

00:05:33.820 It's either going to be their way, which they do limited coverage.

00:05:36.780 They only do clips. It's going to be CNN's way,

00:05:39.260 or it's going to be an MSNBC and all these guys,

00:05:42.920 or you're not going to see it.

00:05:44.440 Right now, and I just want to go over this.

00:05:47.200 Jonathan O'Meara, that was a bald-faced lie.

00:05:48.920 We have both coverages today, and it's going to be better than what the mainstream media, the legacy media provided.

00:05:55.540 And the notes section, talk to me about ravpool.org.

00:05:59.220 People were signing up, you know, thousands and thousands of people.

00:06:02.540 They're getting a better experience on this, that the legacy media was too dumb and too lazy and didn't have the technology or people that had hustle that want to really show what's going on. 0.96

00:06:14.200 And the bottom line is our pool coverage and what Rav is doing just is an order of magnitude better than the dumb, lazy, entitled legacy media. 0.90

00:06:27.000 And you see Jonathan LeMere, oh, yeah, we were told that it's no thing. 0.98

00:06:29.840 It's a bald-faced lie.

00:06:33.900 Parker Sig, thoughts?

00:06:36.380 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

00:06:40.240 We've seen this over time from the legacy media.

00:06:42.780 the level of disinterest and manipulation behind their coverage has been there forever. I mean,

00:06:48.940 this is not something new. We've seen it through this whole administration. We're going to continue

00:06:52.760 to see it. CNN being one of the most aggressive perpetrators of this. And that's where our

00:06:59.060 coverage is substantially superior to what they're doing. And not even because we're going and doing

00:07:05.420 anything necessarily crazy. We're just putting out the real stuff, the real feeds, the real

00:07:11.620 coverage not manipulated not changed and we're giving that out to everybody we're not putting

00:07:16.180 a stranglehold on that and retaining information from the public like they've done for so long

00:07:21.640 we're putting everything out that there is to put out and we're going to continue doing that we're

00:07:26.420 going to do it for free and that's and better exactly and better because look our team like

00:07:31.900 you said our team is dedicated our team cares about what they're doing they want to make sure

00:07:36.060 those shots are the best they can be the audio is as good as it could be uh the white balance

00:07:40.600 of the president is as good as possible.

00:07:43.540 I can tell you there's been numerous occasions

00:07:46.000 where I've seen these pool feed shots,

00:07:48.240 particularly from CNN and some of the other legacy media

00:07:52.340 that are even far skewed to the left,

00:07:54.880 where you wonder, it's so bad, it's so atrociously bad,

00:08:00.840 you wonder if it was intentional.

00:08:03.220 And it's just, it blows my mind.

00:08:05.080 You and I have talked about that a lot,

00:08:06.820 the non-color correction.

00:08:07.920 Parker, hang on for one second.

00:08:09.440 And I want to give back to Jonathan Lemire and this and what we're doing and what we're providing today.

00:08:14.280 But I want to go to the White House, to Pebble Beach.

00:08:19.120 David Zervis joins us, new senior counsel, over to our former contributor, the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson.

00:08:26.640 David, welcome aboard.

00:08:28.280 David, first of all, can you give a little background on yourself?

00:08:30.300 Why are you the perfect guy for this time to come in as a senior counselor to Scott Besson?

00:08:34.800 well i don't know that i'm the perfect guy steve but uh i have been in this town on and off for

00:08:42.340 the last 35 years uh i started as an economist at the federal reserve board in the early 90s

00:08:47.400 under alan greenspan and then spent uh about 32 more years of my career on wall street with a

00:08:55.840 little break back at the federal reserve as an advisor to the board uh during 2009 uh i've known

00:09:02.380 the secretary for close to two decades, mainly through financial markets and his incredible

00:09:09.060 run during that time. He's an incredible macro trader, thinker, and I'm honored to be here

00:09:17.680 serving for my third time in the Treasury Department.

00:09:22.100 Well, let me through. We spent the morning talking about the Iowa steel mill that had

00:09:26.860 Navarro on about the economy. We're going to spend more time. We've got one of the leaders

00:09:30.800 and small manufacturing coming on.

00:09:32.620 What's your assessment?

00:09:33.500 We're trying to make the point that the numbers here are actually very compelling.

00:09:38.260 The message is just not getting out,

00:09:39.840 and I'm sure that's one of the reasons you were brought on board.

00:09:42.460 Walk me through your thoughts as you step into this job

00:09:44.940 of where we are economically and financially, sir.

00:09:51.260 Steve, I think there's an enormous change underway,

00:09:55.760 and it's not just the presidents and the administrations,

00:09:59.140 changes that have led a manufacturing reboot, construction reboot.

00:10:04.460 And those are significant.

00:10:06.120 And we saw another piece of that data today with the ISM coming out nice and strong,

00:10:13.340 with particularly new orders strong.

00:10:16.660 I think there's an underlying story that we are in the middle of a generational shock,

00:10:22.580 a productivity shock, a supply-side shock that us supply-side economists get excited about once

00:10:29.940 every few decades. The last one was in the 90s. This one looks a little bit different, but we all

00:10:34.940 run our parallels to things like the railroads and other periods of time where just significant

00:10:40.380 technological change was afoot. And there's an enormous amount of investment. It's coming from

00:10:46.560 the policies that the Trump administration has put in place to be pro-business, but it's also

00:10:52.280 these drivers that are really exogenous to everything, suggesting that we're in the middle

00:10:57.560 of a major productivity boom. David, where do people go now that you're on board? And we're

00:11:05.620 going to have you on hopefully as frequently as you're available because we're very focused. We

00:11:09.640 got Terry Schilling in studio, one of the leaders, and talking about family economics and jobs and

00:11:14.720 how important jobs are for young men. Where do we go to get all your information? Where do people

00:11:19.880 go for your updates? Well, I just converted an X account that I've had out there. So David Zervos,

00:11:27.460 DC, that's where I'll try to be putting out some higher frequency information. And I think from

00:11:34.120 that and appearances like this and regular appearances in the news media to try to

00:11:40.180 continue to push the narrative, which I've been very focused on for the last few years,

00:11:47.460 that things are actually moving quite swiftly and quite aggressively on the economic growth front.

00:11:53.220 And the idea that we need to slow that down with monetary policy

00:11:57.360 because of some of these demand-side worries about inflation,

00:12:01.140 I think are just way overblown, Steve.

00:12:03.100 And they're actually dragging us down.

00:12:05.440 And they're having a particular impact on the interest rate-sensitive components of the economy,

00:12:10.660 like housing, and like things that affect the young men you were just speaking of.

00:12:15.400 You've got uncertainty about what AI is going to do to the younger generations in the job market, and you've got a significant interest rate move that's being designed to cool AI, but it's really having most all of its impact in the consumer sector and particularly those that are looking at entering the home buying market for the first time.

00:12:34.660 So it's sort of like putting a policy in place that really isn't designed to do what needs to be done.

00:12:42.220 And I think there's just a lot of miscommunication about what the risks are with inflation, what the risks are with growth, what the risks are with unemployment.

00:12:50.600 So hopefully we can try to set the record straight in many places, including here.

00:12:55.140 You know, as Scott can tell you, because the reason he was a contributor here for years, although this working class, middle class audience here in the war room of grassroots leaders, we try to make sure they understand the economy, capital markets, you know, global economics.

00:13:09.300 It seems they're up to speed on it.

00:13:11.580 The people are missing it is the business press.

00:13:13.700 Give me a minute.

00:13:14.360 Are you going to put a full on onslaught to the business media to make sure they understand this?

00:13:19.700 Because the people that should get this the most, it seems to me, have twisted the story the worse, sir.

00:13:25.140 I think that's fair. I think there's a lot of imbalance out there. I tended to be a contributor to one media outlet during my career in financial markets over the last 17 years in a public, in a role where I spoke to the public through the news media and not just the clients in the firm that I work for.

00:13:49.520 And I think there's some fair ones.

00:13:51.680 There's some unfair ones.

00:13:52.860 There's biases on all sides.

00:13:54.360 And I think everybody should just try to get some balance in the news that they're consuming.

00:14:01.040 And we've gone to a world where it's just extremities on all sides.

00:14:05.220 And that, I think, hurts everybody and doesn't allow people to really make up their minds for themselves.

00:14:12.280 We have an incredibly, to me, the most incredible thing, Steve, is just to see these young kids somehow get infatuated with a system that doesn't involve meritocracy anymore.

00:14:24.120 And I'm so saddened by that.

00:14:26.380 One of the reasons, one of the many reasons I've decided to come and serve again is I just feel it's a critical time to get the message out on just how important meritocracy and capitalism have been to the growth of this country and the success of this country.

00:14:41.480 And to see us go down a European path or even something more dangerous than that would be tragic in so many ways.

00:14:49.960 David, we've got to bounce. I know you've got to bounce. Thank you for joining us.

00:14:52.700 Look forward to having you back, brother. David Zervos, now at Treasury.

00:14:56.520 Short break. Parker and Terry next.

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00:16:17.560 I want to thank David Zervos.

00:16:19.360 We're going to have Zervos.

00:16:20.040 And real quickly, the meritocracy is one thing, but when the system is totally, this is the problem.

00:16:24.920 I think the beating heart of the problem to me is that we have a state capitalist system or quasi-capitalist system with very few capitalists.

00:16:32.920 These kids are not into the system.

00:16:35.320 They're not in the system.

00:16:36.140 They don't own real assets.

00:16:37.360 They don't own financial assets.

00:16:38.400 Remember, in the old days, family formation also made sure that you got the house.

00:16:45.320 That house is your savings account, right?

00:16:47.440 The reason I tell people about home title lock all the time is that 90% of your net worth is tied up in that.

00:16:53.160 That gave people a stake in the system, gave young men a stake in the system.

00:16:58.060 We don't have that today.

00:16:59.560 And meritocracy is great.

00:17:01.440 We believe in that.

00:17:02.380 But not when you're competing against the world.

00:17:03.960 When you bring the world in here to compete for Americans on American soil, it's not acceptable. 1.00

00:17:08.820 This is why H-1B visas, you know, too many jobs are going to foreigners. 1.00

00:17:13.200 It's your whole commercial, your whole spot. 1.00

00:17:15.360 It's not even, look, I would disagree that we have meritocracy right now.

00:17:18.720 We have certificationocracy.

00:17:20.800 You know, like you have to go to a higher education or, you know, a university, a college, get the pay.

00:17:29.620 There's 27 schools now, Steve, where they charge over one hundred thousand dollars a year for tuition.

00:17:35.300 Right. This is no longer a meritocracy.

00:17:37.380 And by the way, you're almost dumber when you graduate from college or get a master's. 0.98

00:17:41.740 It's like the further you get down the road, prairie populism. 0.99

00:17:45.000 dude you've become

00:17:47.840 William Jennings Bryan from Iowa

00:17:50.420 actually you're from Western

00:17:52.420 Illinois, correct? Western Illinois

00:17:53.720 I'm from a small town called Genesee, Illinois

00:17:56.340 my dad opened up a pizza shop

00:17:58.020 in Moline in 1996

00:18:00.000 it's still up and my brother Joe

00:18:02.460 runs it, it's awesome

00:18:03.220 best part of the country, period

00:18:05.600 Terry's going to stick with us

00:18:07.720 I want to play Jonathan Lemire and bring Parker

00:18:10.420 back in, I think the president's going to gaggle

00:18:12.400 since he's now his press secretary

00:18:14.280 too, at 1130, I think before we get on the plane. We do have Seth Keschel and John Gardner to get

00:18:20.920 in. We're going to juggle as we do here in the war room every day. Play Jonathan Lemire from

00:18:25.640 this morning's Morning Joe. And now I'm going to have Parker Sig respond.

00:18:33.200 Claims he's the most transparent in history. That's obviously not the case. I am told by a

00:18:37.160 person familiar with the process, there likely will not be a TV pool today at all because CNN

00:18:42.720 It was their turn. They're not being allowed to go. So it looks like the networks are continuing to band together, as we saw last week, which I think is a heartening development. We'll keep you posted on that.

00:18:52.540 Jonathan Lemire had insider information, but it turned out it was wrong. Parker, say, am I correct in that?

00:18:59.040 Yes, you are absolutely correct in that. And let me just point out one thing as it pertains to, you know, the legality comments that continue to be made.

00:19:09.680 When you look at information and the restriction of information, that can actually pose possible security and safety issues.

00:19:19.680 And I'll give you I'll give you a real world example of that.

00:19:23.320 When Weather Nation was aggressively targeted for its association to real America's voice and we had providers threatened to take Weather Nation down.

00:19:32.720 You know, the argument that we had and we went and put forth was this is going to be a danger to society, to viewers across the country if you remove access to this information when there's hurricanes, there's tornadoes, and people need to have this information to know where they need to go to be safe.

00:19:50.920 The same can be said for information surrounding this president and this administration.

00:19:56.780 So when you look at it and you talk about the legality of CNN being able to have a stranglehold over the access to this president versus independent media outlets, part of that argument can really come down to a safety side of things.

00:20:11.040 You need to be able to have the information to make informed decisions about who you want to vote for, what you need to do in your day-to-day life to make your day-to-day life better at the end of the day.

00:20:23.140 So it comes down to it's really restriction of this information is dangerous and it'll continue to be dangerous.

00:20:31.760 And that's where I would go make the argument to say if these legacy media outlets aren't going to do the job that they're supposed to do, which is informing the American people truthfully, honestly, then they shouldn't be allowed to have access to this president.

00:20:46.720 There's a lot of other people standing in line who will do the job and do it correctly, such as Real America's Voice.

00:20:52.220 And so I think that's why it's such an important thing that this is happening now.

00:20:56.240 Again, you've got to be able to have the information.

00:21:00.380 By the way, Parker, you were there the other night.

00:21:03.140 So when they got their noses out of joint and they shut down everything, we were providing Real America's Voice.

00:21:10.760 Our channel was providing 24-7 coverage, great shots, doing everything on Xi, arriving at the airport historically at the dinner.

00:21:18.580 And finally, when the judge came in and gave the TRO and President Trump and Stephen Chung and the team decided to let him in, their coverage didn't do anything with the Chinese, didn't do anything.

00:21:30.660 It was all coverage of Caitlin Collins returning to the White House, right?

00:21:36.540 CNN superstar now gets back.

00:21:39.280 You know, you had Anderson Cooper in the team.

00:21:41.520 We got some footage from that.

00:21:42.920 Can we play the footage of Caitlin Collins returning to the White House in all her glory?

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00:22:18.580 I don't know.

00:22:48.580 I want to play that B-roll.

00:23:04.300 I bring Parker in.

00:23:05.320 Parker, can you keep that B-roll up?

00:23:07.320 Thank you very much.

00:23:08.240 Parker Sig, Caitlin Collins, this is how they, this is how they, it's all about them.

00:23:14.100 It's never about the task and purpose or the objective.

00:23:17.240 The objective is to make sure you give a non-filtered, disintermediated view of the president of the United States and what he's doing.

00:23:26.240 The president's going to do a gaggle in a few minutes.

00:23:28.080 We're going to jump right to that.

00:23:29.520 Your thoughts there, because as soon as it was all about Caitlin Collins, it was not about she.

00:23:34.320 It was not about the president.

00:23:35.400 It was not about the importance of this state visit, sir.

00:23:40.120 No, you're absolutely right.

00:23:41.740 And this video here is spot on.

00:23:44.720 it. I mean, it explains their mentality and their thought process exactly. It's never been

00:23:52.160 about the American people. It's never going to be about the American people. It's always going to 0.70

00:23:57.140 be about themselves, their self-interest, and their egos. And when they don't get what they

00:24:04.420 want, they're going to kick and scream and cry about it and hope that somehow that is going to

00:24:10.280 going to persuade the decisions that are falling on them.

00:24:14.760 But I think everybody sees through it.

00:24:17.700 Everybody's sick and tired of it.

00:24:19.160 You can see it in their ratings, in their viewership.

00:24:21.660 They have not had an upward spike in a long time.

00:24:26.120 And they would need to make some major, major, major changes

00:24:31.320 to redirect that course.

00:24:34.420 I don't know if there's a way for them to redirect that course.

00:24:37.040 They've lost the trust in everybody on the left and the right.

00:24:42.320 Not just the trust.

00:24:43.680 They've lost the trust, certainly, but also just the way they're structured.

00:24:48.540 You guys kind of came at it very early on in the streaming business.

00:24:51.860 I talked to your dad about actually picking up War Room the first week the show was up.

00:24:55.180 And the way he walked me through, streaming's changed everything.

00:24:58.440 You were years ahead of these people in streaming and the technology.

00:25:01.940 You know, our camera crews, the technology, everything is cutting edge.

00:25:05.300 but it's made for like you should call a militia they're so embedded with the capital expenditures

00:25:10.440 they made this is why they have a very tough time restructuring these companies and the people that

00:25:15.600 have been there forever and they're just lazy they're just they just don't hustle they you got

00:25:19.440 the entrepreneurial spirit which always gets you better and these guys are like it's like uh the

00:25:24.720 the soviets in the 1970s it's just too big so uh one more time before i let you bounce i want to i

00:25:31.500 I want to make sure people go to ravpool.org because there we have a series of notes in real time,

00:25:37.680 particularly if you're an independent journalist and or just a citizen.

00:25:40.720 If you're an independent journalist, it's all free content that you can use,

00:25:43.940 but I want to make sure people go and sign up.

00:25:46.800 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:48.280 So like you said, that's ravpool.org.

00:25:50.900 You can go there.

00:25:51.880 It's the one-stop shop for everything that you need regarding the Real America's Voice pool feed.

00:25:57.860 We keep that updated 24-7.

00:26:00.020 that feed stays up there live whenever there is a live feed. It gets sourced right into that page.

00:26:05.540 You can also catch it on the Real America's Voice YouTube page. For the media outlets and the

00:26:10.960 independent journalists out there who are looking for a professional ingest of that feed, which

00:26:15.560 they can go redistribute however they like, obviously the only request I think that we would

00:26:21.460 have from our side is for those feeds not to be manipulated. But again, at the end of the day,

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00:30:00.260 You've got something to say about gold and wages.

00:30:02.740 What is it?

00:30:03.400 So I went back and I looked at my grandfather's salary.

00:30:07.900 He made around $5,900 a year in 1970.

00:30:11.340 And at that time, gold was $35 an ounce.

00:30:15.140 So that's like 170 ounces of gold.

00:30:16.940 That would be $680,000 today.

00:30:20.140 And you look at the salaries today, we're making 10 times that much in dollars, but

00:30:25.580 you're only getting 15 ounces of gold for $60,000.

00:30:29.640 It is absolutely insane.

00:30:31.640 That's why my grandfather could afford a home and a vacation every year and an extra car

00:30:36.460 and to put his kids through good schools.

00:30:38.500 And it's just so tragic what they stole.

00:30:41.340 Like, see, the deceit here is they gave us more dollars,

00:30:46.480 so it seemed like we were making more money,

00:30:48.140 and then they took away the value of it.

00:30:49.720 It was so deceptive.

00:30:50.900 This is all the, like, the over-the-top valuations in these leagues.

00:30:54.460 A franchise in the NBA in Las Vegas is going to go between, not a team,

00:30:59.700 the right for a franchise is going to go between $12 and $15 billion here

00:31:03.260 as they auction it.

00:31:04.380 My dad was a blue-collar guy, eventually got into, not, you know,

00:31:07.940 just a high school graduate, a family of five. Mom was a full-time homemaker to, you know,

00:31:14.480 to wrangle us. And all five kids went to Catholic schools, grade school, elementary, grammar school,

00:31:21.300 as we called it, all the way up to through high school on his salary, right, as a blue-collar guy.

00:31:26.700 Well, think about this. Now for an average family, if you want to actually get ahead or

00:31:31.140 for many people just to stay afloat, you have to send mom into the workforce too, right? Mom used 1.00

00:31:36.660 to be able to stay home and actually look women are actually great workers that that's the hidden 1.00

00:31:41.500 secret and they don't really beg and demand pay increases that's why corporations love employing 0.98

00:31:46.520 them they're great workers and that's why they make great moms like we trusted moms and women

00:31:51.920 with raising the next generation the ceo of the american family yes exactly and they controlled

00:31:58.360 the future they controlled what people thought and how they interact with them they controlled

00:32:02.320 the morality for our country and now they went to go work for jeff bezos as if that was a better

00:32:08.060 deal for them it's not terrible um let's bring in john gardner we're gonna go as soon as the

00:32:12.300 president comes live to this gag or we'll jump back to that but uh gardner you're the you're

00:32:19.680 like the guru of small manufacturing you keep saying hey the shops under 25 people under 10

00:32:25.200 people under 50 people are the future of the country what does that mean for young men because

00:32:30.320 we've got to get back to family formation. We got to get back to people. You know, women are 0.79

00:32:35.420 sitting there saying, hey, is this guy got an economic future or not? How are you and your

00:32:40.180 small manufacturing crusade going to solve that? Well, you know, the manufacturing industry

00:32:46.780 traditionally was where you created a middle class family like my uncle's dad. He got a job

00:32:53.500 at a steel mill when World War II started. And because of his job at the steel mill,

00:33:00.300 he got married. His wife never worked. He was able to build a middle-class life.

00:33:04.480 And so we have a real shortage of workers in the manufacturing industry. The Deloitte Institute

00:33:08.540 predicts that we'll need 3.8 million manufacturing workers by 2033. And we need to enlighten the

00:33:16.820 young men of America that this is the next area for them to get into. And we need to show them

00:33:23.420 that the manufacturing industry is hold it slow down slow down slow down slow down you and you

00:33:28.880 and shilling are hitting me with math i gotta i'm supposed to be the math guy shilling's coming out

00:33:34.780 with the gold and you know i just went long gold again um talk to me what do you mean 3.8 million

00:33:41.720 jobs manufacturing jobs i take it these are good paying jobs by 2033 back that up where does that

00:33:48.320 come from? How do we know that's going to be real? Well, 65% of manufacturers say that finding

00:33:55.060 employees that know the skill sets that will work in the industry is their number one problem,

00:34:00.900 number one problem, 65% of them. President Trump is growing US manufacturing, even Biden with his

00:34:11.860 CHIPS Act. And it's becoming a hot topic again for both sides of the political aisle. And so we

00:34:19.560 see how much we've lost by China growing their manufacturing sector so much. And

00:34:25.000 we're not really enlightening our youth as to the opportunities to build a family and to have a

00:34:32.060 secure job in the manufacturing industry. I think we need some national marketing around that,

00:34:37.320 to be honest with you. And just to give you an idea of a sense how China is beating us on this

00:34:44.460 and drawing in the next generation of workers there, they pay workers to get certified. If you

00:34:50.200 get certified in a certain manufacturing skill, you get a bonus. Up to three certifications a

00:34:55.520 year, you get paid to do that by the state. They actually gave huge rebates on unemployment

00:35:02.340 insurance to small manufacturers in China to allow them to actually almost hire more people

00:35:08.720 is basically like, hey, we're going to almost pay you or not punish you with unemployment

00:35:12.540 insurance to hire people.

00:35:14.580 They're doing a lot of state subsidies.

00:35:16.500 And that's something that we have to battle.

00:35:18.480 And that is in conflict with the free trade and capitalist mentality that we have in America

00:35:25.240 where no state intervention, but we intervene in so many other areas in American society,

00:35:31.720 you know, universities, healthcare, get all kinds of state subsidies. And the manufacturing is if

00:35:35.660 you want to supercharge it, and we're far behind, and President Trump has started the turn to catch

00:35:42.340 up, but we are very much far behind. And we need to accelerate this. And my opinion, move a little

00:35:48.620 bit away, like, from this idea that the state should not have any involvement in industrial

00:35:54.020 development, because that's what won World War II. You know, we created the Defense Plant

00:35:58.740 Corporation, and a GoCo model, government-owned, I think, privately operated.

00:36:07.820 And there was one aluminum manufacturer at the beginning of World War II.

00:36:12.600 And so the US government, the federal government, built aluminum plants and sold them to private

00:36:16.680 contractors.

00:36:17.740 But they took the initiative so that capital did not feel, hey, is our bet going to pay

00:36:23.820 off if we put our own money in?

00:36:25.120 And that's what I think is holding Wall Street back right now from going all in on manufacturing

00:36:29.320 is, you know, are the tariffs going to stay?

00:36:32.380 Will what I invest in be protected in the years down the road?

00:36:36.640 You know, will that be taken away by Congress because they're all free traders?

00:36:40.620 And so we need to give them a little certainty.

00:36:43.560 And we're trying to move quickly.

00:36:45.620 So how do you do that?

00:36:46.580 And, you know, you look at South Korea, Taiwan, tiny nations, manufacturing superpowers,

00:36:52.880 they had state subsidies to get them started and now they're not state subsidized and i'm not

00:36:58.040 talking full subsidies you know and this we really have to focus on shifting the mentality in congress

00:37:03.840 because we really need congress to act on president trump's tariffs and i think there needs to be a

00:37:08.820 big dialogue about how embracing free trade is exactly what carl marx and engels wanted you know

00:37:15.200 I can tell you that they said in Karl Marx's speech on free trade in 1848, he said, free

00:37:22.760 trade breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the

00:37:27.460 bourgeois to the extreme point.

00:37:28.800 They wanted us to embrace free trade.

00:37:31.140 And they also said under free trade, the whole class of small manufacturers is ruined and

00:37:36.940 thrown into the ranks of the working class.

00:37:38.580 So when we embraced absolute free trade, we did exactly what the communists want.

00:37:43.160 And it shows who's winning the war on manufacturing.

00:37:46.020 And 73% of the Pentagon's suppliers, the defense industrial base, are small businesses.

00:37:53.140 And that is a healthy manufacturing base, Steve.

00:37:55.860 That's a healthy manufacturing base because the missile, the ship, they all get made one part at a time.

00:38:02.360 What's that?

00:38:03.700 The idea of 3.8 million young men being able to go right into these manufacturing plants right out of high school is so beautiful to me.

00:38:13.160 We got to get to these kids in high school.

00:38:15.640 We got to bring back the trades in high school.

00:38:17.260 We have to get to the one of the tricks that they're doing and that they've been doing doing for decades is forcing and telling our kids.

00:38:23.920 The only way you're going to get a good job is if you go to college and rack up a mortgage level worth of debt in student loans.

00:38:30.520 And now we have these opportunities where we can send our boys back into the workforce.

00:38:34.580 They can start building capital, start buying those homes.

00:38:37.760 I think this is absolutely beautiful.

00:38:39.200 We need to do everything we can to get to these kids in high school.

00:38:41.920 But how do you get this? So the Germans have this system of teaching tradecraft. 0.95

00:38:45.380 In fact, the Germans say when you're just entering high school, who wants to be in manufacturing in blue collar? 0.66

00:38:52.040 Because you're going to make you have a great life if you do that.

00:38:54.860 Who wants to kind of go to college otherwise? And they have a whole system of training apprentices.

00:39:00.880 It's kind of a crash thing. Where are we on that, Gardner?

00:39:04.460 Do we actually have an act? I know President Trump has tried to start a few things.

00:39:08.280 I think the deal we were going to have with Harvard originally to make sure that Harvard was not woke and full of DEI, they were going to actually brand something on the working class side to actually oversee these school, these trade schools.

00:39:24.420 To get up to – to get 3.8 million young men ready for the work environment they're going to need to join manufacturing, what do we have to do?

00:39:33.000 Have we even started that process?

00:39:36.000 I don't think we've even started it, Steve.

00:39:38.280 um i i'm not a big believer in trade schools i think if you're an adult and you want to switch

00:39:43.680 careers a technical school is a good place to go to you know hvac school electrician school

00:39:49.280 plumbing school those are all different than manufacturing skill sets precision machining

00:39:53.520 has to be almost taught under the mentorship of a a machine tool maker that's been doing it for

00:40:00.320 30 years because he knows all the tips and tricks and in a trade school or in a manufacturing trade

00:40:05.240 school, you stand around, you learn how to make one part very slowly. Well, machine shops are

00:40:10.440 production oriented. You have, and it's a different world when you're doing a thousand

00:40:15.000 parts versus one part, you can sit there and study it. And, you know, you really learn by

00:40:21.300 hands-on mentorship. And I think we need to incentive, but that takes money and time from

00:40:26.440 a shop. You have to take an employee away and have them use their energy to teach somebody instead

00:40:31.200 doing what they're supposed to do.

00:40:32.780 So I think we need to incentivize manufacturing companies to hire kids.

00:40:36.600 I also think we need to hire the kids themselves.

00:40:38.600 Like I talk about in my book, a signing bonus, like we have a military signing bonus.

00:40:42.920 But if you go in and you complete a year W-2 at a machine shop, you get a signing bonus

00:40:47.640 for that to incentivize these people to get into it, these young men to get into it, and

00:40:51.320 women too.

00:40:52.240 And so I really think that the trade school has some value, but I think that

00:41:00.000 you know these these curriculums are written by academics who have never worked in the

00:41:05.080 manufacturing industry and i think are you saying the skill set people need is just a sense of hey

00:41:10.660 i want to do this i can show up on time and have a certain i have a certain uh understanding of

00:41:16.240 responsibility and accountability is that it a hundred percent if you you have a job and you're

00:41:21.260 going to make you know you're going to make money even if you're sweeping the shop floor and so many

00:41:25.000 people i've known in the industry came up starting off sweeping the shop floor then you learn one

00:41:29.740 machine and how to do one operation on one machine, and you do that for a while, and then you learn how

00:41:34.920 to do more operations on the machine. Then you learn a second type of machine. That's how you

00:41:39.800 learn precision manufacturing. It's such a niche thing, but really everything in America is built

00:41:45.760 on it, especially in our defense industrial base. The technical schools are good to learn a general

00:41:56.540 foundation, but you get into a general job shop, and you have different jobs from aerospace,

00:42:03.160 automotive, and all these things, and it's a different world, and you feel completely out

00:42:06.760 of place. I think if we teach this stuff in high schools, which it should have never left high

00:42:10.340 school, you're coming in right away into a job earning money, you're much more likely to feel

00:42:15.060 like you want to keep going in if you're earning a buck. It's hard enough when you're 19, 20,

00:42:19.440 to get by. Hang on a second, Joe. We're going to go to break. We're going to talk about ISM

00:42:25.300 when we get back for a couple of minutes, your reports out, your thoughts.

00:42:28.780 I love it.

00:42:29.780 And one thing that he, John, you're hitting on that is incredible and so truthful

00:42:35.480 is these corporations, these big companies like General Motors,

00:42:39.640 they train their employees.

00:42:41.520 It wasn't MIT that built General Motors.

00:42:43.620 It was General Motors University.

00:42:45.260 And these corporations used to train their employees on the spot

00:42:49.000 because they needed the workers.

00:42:50.140 They didn't have four years to wait for them to get their degree.

00:42:52.580 But they shelved that off to the university systems through laws that our government passed and mandates that we passed and Supreme Court rulings.

00:42:59.520 We've got to get back to that.

00:43:00.840 Corporations should be responsible for training their employees, not us.

00:43:04.200 The universities turned them into Marxists.

00:43:05.960 OK, we're going to go to a break.

00:43:08.220 Some of the engine room is asking me, is Terry Schilling like one of the guys in Handmaid's Tale, right? 0.99

00:43:15.140 Your thoughts of, oh, women are great beasts of burdens, and that's what they make.

00:43:20.580 that's what they make first of all handmaid's tale is about surrogacy uh and how evil that is 0.74

00:43:25.400 taking advantage of women and it's also about radical islam i have nothing to do with it i

00:43:29.400 just think moms are better than press secretaries for amazon or hr directors at amazon and terry

00:43:36.420 shilling is prepared to throw down with you anytime that's what the prairie populace terry

00:43:40.780 shilling john gardner our small manufacturing guru john gardner got uh got some thoughts on

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00:45:24.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:45:29.220 John, we've got a couple of minutes.

00:45:30.600 The president is going to come out and do a gaggle with the media, now that he's his own press secretary.

00:45:35.980 We're going to go to that, and we'll blow through commercial breaks.

00:45:39.040 Charlie Kirk shows next.

00:45:40.460 Real quickly, you've got a report out.

00:45:42.260 We're going to push out to everybody.

00:45:43.620 We've had Cortez, we had Navarro, and we had David Zervos, now the senior advisor to the Treasury Secretary.

00:45:51.220 All three of them came on today, and they talked about the ISM numbers, how they're looking better.

00:45:56.040 You've got an issue with that entire thing, and you're one of our gang.

00:46:00.620 Talk to me.

00:46:01.040 Give me a minute or two about ISM.

00:46:03.620 What is it?

00:46:04.300 Why do you think it misleads us on manufacturing data, sir?

00:46:08.440 Well, it's quite an honor to be part of the gang, and I appreciate that.

00:46:12.520 And you have to give me permission to speak freely here because I don't want to get myself in trouble.

00:46:19.200 You know, but the ISM index that they're quoting as showing manufacturing booming is a sympathy index.

00:46:26.160 And it technically works.

00:46:27.960 They asked 400 purchasing managers within the manufacturing industry in the different sectors, aerospace, agricultural manufacturing.

00:46:37.180 Literally, are things getting better, worse, or are they the same?

00:46:42.520 Uh, so it's kind of a vote, uh, an opinion, uh, purchasing managers only see one aspect

00:46:48.400 of running a business, um, uh, the buying and what's left out, uh, of that is what they're

00:46:58.080 paying.

00:46:58.500 Uh, and they're, they're hollering about their costs going through the roof, uh, but that's

00:47:03.580 left out of the ISM index.

00:47:05.480 And so when we promote the ISM index as the standard for whether manufacturing is booming

00:47:13.160 in this country, it is really not true.

00:47:18.720 To give you an example, the ISM is made up of five components, new orders, production.

00:47:25.180 One of them is supplier deliveries.

00:47:27.760 And when you are behind on your shipments and no manufacturer thinks that sending shipments

00:47:34.680 late is good. That actually pushes the ISM index up and makes it look better. President Trump was

00:47:41.580 very upset that he couldn't get military equipment made faster in January. He called out,

00:47:47.600 I think, even Raytheon and said, hey, we need to get military equipment made faster.

00:47:50.840 But then we celebrate the ISM index, which shows that being behind on those deliveries

00:47:58.960 makes manufacturing look better okay so that causes a lot of cost hang hang hang we we need

00:48:05.780 to we need to we need to spend more time and get you on it for a longer segment to get to the base

00:48:11.280 of it because it's quite important and i think we need to hear your opinion this because i think it's

00:48:15.780 actually got a lot of truth to it but it's something we just can't jam in my brain's already

00:48:19.660 hurting where do people go to get to all your content and particularly this analysis this data

00:48:24.900 in this report that you just put out.

00:48:27.780 I think it's on RealClearMarkets or RealClearPolitics.

00:48:30.280 Yes, sir.

00:48:30.560 Where do people go right now to read it,

00:48:32.460 where they get all your books, everything right now, sir?

00:48:34.980 John Gardner, our small manufacturing guru.

00:48:39.780 JohnGardnerAuthor.com.

00:48:41.560 On the media page, you can find the RealClearMarkets article

00:48:44.780 about the, it's called A Loyal Dissent on the Manufacturing Boom,

00:48:49.840 talking that the president's not getting the data that is true,

00:48:52.440 from my opinion and my books on there as well it's amazing gardner i'm gonna get you on here

00:48:57.860 maybe on saturday we'll break it all down john gardner thank you closing thoughts prairie populace

00:49:02.960 as you need both the cultural but you can't avoid the economics particularly about young people

00:49:08.220 families etc terry showing yeah i know i want to re-emphasize that the the culture war is actually

00:49:13.440 the strongest ground that the republican party has right now and they must they must continue

00:49:18.360 to contrast themselves with the democrats culture war agenda and it's you know we are seeing good

00:49:22.880 movement we ran a hundred thousand dollars in ads against tallarico in the corpus christi market

00:49:28.060 attacking him on transgender procedures for minors and we shifted the electorate down there by five

00:49:34.380 and a half points amongst a lean democrat swing universe so you have to explain how important

00:49:39.760 that is okay so what's really cool about targeting lean democrat swing universes is

00:49:45.460 every vote you shift is net two for the good guys, right?

00:49:49.840 So when you win a Democrat over,

00:49:51.220 even if you get them to stay home, right?

00:49:52.780 Get them to stay home, get them to, you know,

00:49:54.360 they're doing everything they can,

00:49:55.920 the Democratic Party, to get our people to stay home.

00:49:58.960 Let's demoralize their base. 0.98

00:50:00.240 Let's remind them of what their agenda is for our kids. 0.76

00:50:03.600 But yeah, every Democrat you get to stay home is a net one,

00:50:07.020 and everyone you get to switch over to our side is a net two.

00:50:09.660 And we have to get Paxton on the finish line.

00:50:11.440 I'm still bullish on him.

00:50:12.700 I think he's going to pull it off.

00:50:13.820 And here's where it gets interesting, Steve,

00:50:15.240 for the Democrats, they're going to have to reconcile with the fact that not only did they

00:50:19.300 lose the last presidential election, they now lost the U.S. Senate race in Texas, the crown jewel

00:50:25.220 for the Democrats because of James Tallarico's radical agenda on giving sex change procedures

00:50:31.700 to minors. But if we fix the economy, which is what we have to do for working families and young

00:50:36.400 people, that's the missing piece, Steve. And we have to figure this out. And I think it starts

00:50:40.080 with the dollar. I got to poke you up with Gardner. You and Gardner would be perfect. I'm

00:50:44.580 get your where to get your touch points beau french love him period no excuses no equivocations

00:50:52.560 bo's the man i've known beau for over 10 i'm not i'm sorry over six years now and he's been a

00:50:57.800 fighter he is who he is and he's not lying he's being direct and unfortunately in our society

00:51:02.940 you kind of get punished he's not going to get punished so he's going to win and he spoke truth

00:51:07.720 to power why are we recruiting foreigners to our public universities that our ancestors built for 0.96

00:51:14.000 us to attend we subsidize these universities heavily and we're bringing in foreigners to 0.70

00:51:18.860 replace us it's not that hard to understand i love everyone i want everyone to get to heaven

00:51:23.720 but i also love america and i want it to remain america and that doesn't mean you know different

00:51:28.820 races it just means that we should prioritize americans before we prioritize foreigners the

00:51:33.460 truckers are going to be here in studio this afternoon to talk about the same issue natalie

00:51:37.180 winners has got another big hit coming this afternoon with us on the situation i doubled

00:51:41.360 down when the situation in rochester which went viral last night we got to face these facts uh

00:51:47.280 real quickly where do people go to get your content if they want to donate well we got

00:51:51.280 several races that we got to get fully funded so rural room has always been with us the posse's

00:51:55.840 always been there americanprinciplesproject.org give us some support please because these midterms

00:52:01.120 are so important for us to win uh but shilling 1776 across all social platforms i'm mostly on x

00:52:07.680 Schilling, 1776.

00:52:09.140 The Federalist, I think their lead story has also got something that backs up your situation on Tallarico.

00:52:13.340 He's been lying about what he's been saying about these transgender surgeries.

00:52:16.420 They finally caught him in a bald-faced lie. 0.85

00:52:18.260 Yeah, no, we all know this.

00:52:19.640 This is what Democrats do.

00:52:21.020 They lie and they pacify us and the media does the cover for them.

00:52:25.320 But yeah, there was a secret video recording of him saying, I'm going to vote the right way on giving kids sex changes.

00:52:32.440 And, you know, this is sex rejection procedures.

00:52:34.760 I can't think.

00:52:35.220 You're telling kids they were born in the wrong body,

00:52:37.720 that God made a mistake when he made them.

00:52:39.580 I can't think of anything more disparaging to tell a little human being.

00:52:42.620 The Charlie Kirk Show is next.

00:52:44.040 We're going to be back here at 5 o'clock.

00:52:46.140 The show is already packed.

00:52:47.560 Make sure you don't miss it one more time.

00:52:49.140 Social media, where do they get you?

00:52:50.400 Schilling, 1776.

00:52:52.460 You come in a little hot on that sometimes.

00:52:54.720 I do.

00:52:55.300 I like to.

00:52:55.820 We've got to keep it real.

00:52:56.440 You know, I'm Beau French light.

00:52:59.700 You're a fire-breathing prairie populace now from Moline, Illinois.

00:53:04.320 Let's go.

00:53:04.800 Geneseo, Geneseo, please.

00:53:07.020 Those big city folks in Moline.

00:53:09.380 Okay, Andrew Covet and the team next on Real America's Voice.

00:53:13.200 Presidents getting ready to go to Texas.

00:53:15.540 We're going to do a gaggle beforehand.

00:53:17.040 We'll see you back there at 5.

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