Bannon's War Room - October 03, 2026


Episode 5709: China Is Continually Sucking From The United States; Why Fauci Must Rot In Prison

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00:00:00.000 Communist China, to be clear, attacks us every minute of every day. They engage in what's called unrestricted warfare. It's a doctrine that goes back to a document that was put out by a couple of military personnel.
00:00:16.980 And it's basically the idea that when you engage in a war with a country like the United States,
00:00:24.880 you don't do hot war. You learn about attacking financial systems, grids. You take out their
00:00:31.460 industries. I'll give you an example right now. And this this has been an important historical
00:00:36.940 event. China has shown that it will weaponize their supply chains to gain geopolitical leverage 0.76
00:00:45.320 over the United States and everywhere else in the world. 0.83
00:00:48.580 And what they did was last year they weaponized this thing called rare earth,
00:00:53.500 rare earth magnets.
00:00:54.260 And the minerals.
00:00:55.460 Yes, and the reason why that's important is that the magnets are used
00:01:01.940 in virtually every technological product we have, both civilian and military,
00:01:07.660 whether it's an F-35 or an iPhone.
00:01:10.140 Well, that's why we made the deal with Greenland. 0.59
00:01:12.680 Everything in between.
00:01:14.020 And so what what China is doing in that and every other industry like that started decades ago when China went in and basically dumped a bunch of product on the market.
00:01:31.720 That's what they do. They build capacity and they subsidize it.
00:01:35.680 They dump the products on shirts. Well, technology.
00:01:40.180 This was magnets, right? So they put out a business and then acquired the only magnet manufacturer we had at the time.
00:01:47.540 It was in Michigan. And they gained control of that whole supply chain.
00:01:53.160 And then decades later, because that's how they planned.
00:01:56.000 And you need those minerals to build a car? What do you need them for?
00:01:59.420 Everything from an F-35, a car, an iPhone. These magnets are in just about everything.
00:02:05.440 The only factory in the United States that was using that, they control it.
00:02:10.280 Yeah. And then they put they put everybody else worldwide out of business.
00:02:13.720 The importance of the tariffs, Bill, is that they're the strongest tool we have to protect America from what is an international system of world trade that by law and rule is fundamentally skewed against Americans.
00:02:30.360 The World Trade Organization is the organization which sets the rules for all the different countries.
00:02:38.780 And it's got a set of rules, including one called Most Favored Nation, which allows every other country in the world to charge America higher tariffs than we charge them and put in these so-called non-tariff barriers.
00:02:53.440 So for years, we saw our factories and our jobs accelerate offshore, our wages go down. 0.55
00:03:03.380 It got much, much worse when China was allowed entry in 2001 into the World Trade Organization.
00:03:11.240 And we essentially gave away much of our productive capacity and prosperity.
00:03:17.080 And that's why Donald Trump came along, because what he did was campaign on protecting American workers, increasing Americans' wages.
00:03:29.540 He's the blue-collar president. 0.74
00:03:31.800 And the places that elected him were the battleground states of the Midwest, which had taken the biggest hit from Chinese predatory practices. 0.97
00:03:45.880 Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. And we got in here in 2017, immediately put on tariffs both on China, steel and aluminum, and manufacturing began to come home. 0.94
00:04:04.940 You were asking the question, how much? Why doesn't the administration ever say how much money they're raising from tariffs?
00:04:11.080 Let me answer that question for you right here. This Congressional Budget Office projects that our tariffs over a 10-year period will produce $3 trillion, $3 trillion. And what that does is it takes our budget balance and moves it basically from a deep, deep deficit, because we are spending way too much money, and moves us back towards balance.
00:04:38.140 So there's a lot of moving parts here. There's a lot of programs that were put in during the Biden years that we can't turn off.
00:04:46.980 Russ Roach right down the hall. OMB wants to turn off. Can't. And we're just we're just spending.
00:04:53.260 Bobby Kennedy hunted down Fauci's diary. Great story in and of itself.
00:04:59.600 And then I read the damn thing and compared it to my diary. 0.98
00:05:04.480 I thought, you know, there's a quick, quick, important book. And I'm I am deadly serious people about putting Fauci in jail. It's not he's not hyperbole. This is not that. 0.99
00:05:14.620 OK, this book, I am the prosecutor. You're the jury. You will render a verdict. But the last few chapters of the book go through the legality of putting him in prison.
00:05:26.720 And it goes from genocide to creating the virus that killed 15 million people to begin with, to obstruction and things under the RICO Act for covering up the fact that the virus came from the lab, not from nature, as he tried to cover up.
00:05:46.160 There's a couple of statutes, one in Texas that covers death of the unborn.
00:05:52.420 There's a I think the worst thing singly that I report in this book right out of his diary is this contrast between him saying in his diary,
00:06:03.380 there's risk for women in the first trimester getting the jab.
00:06:07.440 OK, right. 0.54
00:06:08.380 And then he goes out and not only tells women it's safe, take it.
00:06:13.260 But, hey, if you don't take it, you might lose your job.
00:06:15.600 OK, so so there's there's a testing statute and then there's a Florida statute that covers death of the elderly, senior citizens in certain circumstances. 0.77
00:06:27.500 So I build the case. People should know that I was in the White House. 0.52
00:06:35.720 I was the first guy in the White House to recognize the threat of the pandemic going back in January of 2020.
00:06:44.560 I met Fauci for the first time in the Situation Room when President Trump sent me there to argue on behalf of the China travel ban.
00:06:55.400 And I met this guy, didn't know he walked on water, didn't know who he was. 0.99
00:07:01.720 All I knew that was within 90 seconds, I was in a violent argument with that SOB.
00:07:07.980 He kept saying travel bans don't work.
00:07:10.160 I'm saying, wait a minute.
00:07:11.700 Wait a minute.
00:07:12.420 There's brown clouds of dead bodies being burned in the crematoria over Wuhan, a city of 18 million people.
00:07:20.140 There's a virus loose.
00:07:21.680 The Chinese aren't letting people travel. 1.00
00:07:24.200 And you think putting 20,000 Chinese on aircraft every day into this country is smart. 1.00
00:07:30.700 So that was the beginning. 1.00
00:07:33.300 Saturday, 3 October, Year of Our Lord, 2026, Dr. Peter Navarro is, by the way, those are star turns.
00:07:40.360 I'm going to start listening to the chat.
00:07:42.180 I think if we I don't interrupt you so much, O'Reilly and your other host there, don't interrupt you, let you talk.
00:07:48.100 So the floor is yours. If I get my clock right there, go ahead.
00:07:51.320 Tell me about what we just saw. Why is it important?
00:07:55.360 The O'Reilly interview is extremely important because I talk about how China, communist China, the CCP,
00:08:03.840 attacks this country every single minute of the day across a broad spectrum of fronts.
00:08:12.180 This is war. There are fronts. There's economic, there's technological and geopolitical.
00:08:19.340 The basis of that war is, you are correct, Mr. Bannon, the unrestricted warfare manual published by two CCP colonels.
00:08:31.900 Yeah. And basically, yeah, the idea is, is they attack our economy using this predatory mercantilism, dump into our markets worldwide, push people out of industries, whether it's steel, aluminum, copper, magnets, whatever it is, then swoop in and control.
00:08:54.780 And that was like that was one set of facts up until last year where it is simply economic domination.
00:09:02.960 But they significantly escalated this, Steve, into weaponization of the supply chain.
00:09:09.400 And that's serious as a heart attack right now.
00:09:11.600 I mean, we that that that was the final declaration in the rare earths, the magnets.
00:09:17.340 But I don't mean that.
00:09:18.800 I mean, that plus, I mean, they they basically have.
00:09:22.440 But you knew this because you warned us about this in the early days of 2020 of the pandemic, about you were the first guy.
00:09:28.160 I was talking about magnets in the first term, Steve.
00:09:31.460 But the point, the big point here is that it's a formal policy now, weaponized supply chains, plural.
00:09:39.580 OK, and the next one they're coming at us with is going to be pharmaceuticals.
00:09:44.300 They've already told us that.
00:09:46.340 Well, let's talk about it's a three stage process.
00:09:51.580 It's base materials.
00:09:53.420 That's the dirty stuff to make. 1.00
00:09:55.580 It's the really nasty chemical shit. 0.99
00:09:58.140 And you've got India and China basically cornering the market on that. 0.99
00:10:03.580 That makes the API, and the API makes the finished dosage forms,
00:10:09.140 which is the pills, the tablets, the injectables, and things like that.
00:10:12.760 And right now they have a pretty strong control of that as well.
00:10:19.200 But, you know, we're taking countermeasures.
00:10:21.340 Let's let's be clear. We're clear eyed about this, no matter how many happy visits we have.
00:10:27.320 We we understand that that China has weaponized supply chains.
00:10:32.660 And that was the importance of the O'Reilly interview, the Dr. Drew interview.
00:10:36.300 I love that guy. He's cool. I talked about Fauci, why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:10:43.400 That's the book. I'm asking the war room today on a weekend.
00:10:47.140 Now that you have some time to kick back is to just get on Amazon, do it right now, multitask a little bit.
00:10:53.860 Why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:10:55.260 With everything going on right now, why you make a prosecutorial case against Fauci, why should the audience buy that?
00:11:03.300 Because if you buy that, you will put Fauci in jail.
00:11:08.220 What the book will do with the war room's health.
00:11:13.220 I think we're making news here.
00:11:14.440 Yeah, well, look, I'm not messing around here.
00:11:16.480 I am the prosecutor. You read it. You're going to be the jury. You will render a verdict. But the last part of the book is a manual. There's a few things I learned on my way to prison and in prison, which was the law.
00:11:30.080 And I go through in why Fauci must rot in prison, the various charges, whether it's genocide, homicide, manslaughter, specific kind of sniper attacks like in Texas for death of the unborn or in Florida where they have special protections for seniors.
00:11:50.640 This guy is going down.
00:11:52.900 If you buy this book, buy it for your friends.
00:11:55.560 If everybody in America read this book, there's no way you keep this guy out of prison because there will be a political groundswell.
00:12:02.560 I mean, you have attorneys general already in Florida, in Kansas, in Texas, moving towards this.
00:12:10.480 The first thing they need to do is subpoena the SOB.
00:12:13.920 No pardon in the world at the federal level will help them.
00:12:17.640 And I go through the whole thing.
00:12:19.220 And, Steve, the most heinous thing to me in the whole book is how privately in his diary he's acknowledging the risk to women in their first trimester of pregnancy
00:12:31.300 and publicly forcing them to take the jab upon penalty of losing their job and telling them there's no risk.
00:12:40.160 That's heinous. 0.55
00:12:41.320 But what's equally heinous is creating a paradigm, a scientific paradigm, which offshored a very dangerous technology to the Chinese Communist Party at the Wuhan lab, civilian and military. 0.56
00:12:57.760 And there's, in my view, a 99.9% chance that Tony Fauci helped create the virus that killed 15 million people worldwide through the transfer of that technology. 0.66
00:13:14.800 and he knew it the diary reveals steve the most the most revealing part of why fauci must rot in
00:13:22.880 prison go to amazon right now please is a january meeting 2020 you're sitting here in the war room
00:13:30.620 right breaking news on this whole thing changed the name of the show to pandemic yes and you know
00:13:35.740 what fauci's doing he's got 12 of the best experts in the world sitting down with him virtually and
00:13:44.240 in person. And 10 of them, 10 of them are saying that suckers from the lab. And the two that are
00:13:51.640 not telling them that are the gain of function guys who have a vested interest in not blaming
00:13:57.500 it on gain of function. And then, and then, so privately, again, privately, and he knows this.
00:14:04.460 Six weeks later, the same people, some of the same people in the room have written this
00:14:08.940 proximal origin paper at at fauci's prompting right he told him to do it saying that it's from
00:14:15.920 nature and i'm telling you this was a i can just imagine tony sitting there and these guys saying
00:14:23.440 tony it's from the lab and he's going oh crap i did that right i gotta cover it up
00:14:29.340 no doubt that's exactly he knows at that point in january 2020 i'm telling you see
00:14:36.320 My biggest regret, besides the fact he killed my 65 million tablets of hydroxychloroquine, I would have saved thousands of lives, was me not knowing he funded that lab.
00:14:48.060 If I had known that, I would have blown him right off the stage in the Brady press room.
00:14:52.220 Hang on. Short break. Navarro on the other side.
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00:16:11.800 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:16.360 Welcome back.
00:16:17.220 Okay, I want to pivot now.
00:16:18.240 By the way, Joy Pullman from the Federalist is going to join us about the boomer generation with the boomers.
00:16:23.300 I'm asking you to stick around for a little longer than you were so you can push your work out to later.
00:16:28.160 We're also going to talk about Brazil. Lara Logan is scheduled to be with us.
00:16:32.760 Chris Leonard is going to drop in at the end of the show, talk about the weapons systems, also about the lords of easy money.
00:16:39.820 Peter, I want to if Denver can put up. Far be it for me to criticize the White House, the White House staff.
00:16:49.780 But even President Trump said yesterday, hey, the problem we got is the Republicans PR is not great.
00:16:55.660 Well, we have now, I think, one of the most important pieces of content I have seen in a long time.
00:17:03.000 That hasn't come from your shop, but it's adjacent to your shop.
00:17:06.220 And that's the Council of Economic Advisors, selected by the president to work in the executive branch as advisors, have done, if Denver could put it up, have done the single most important thing we do.
00:17:18.580 Because then we can get a name we never mentioned on the show, have ever mentioned.
00:17:22.540 And this is not going to count because Fox brain. All they talk about is Hassan Piker all day. OK, that's Fox brain. We never deal with that guy. OK. But however, you just can't say run around. They're socialists. I keep saying if you really listen to what they're talking about, we're in a financial jam right now, as you know.
00:17:42.740 Then we're trying to grow our way of it. The last supply side tax cut, et cetera.
00:17:47.880 This counts on economic advisers went back very thoroughly on every element of the plan of the DSA and really the Democratic Party.
00:17:57.660 And I'm going to turn it over to you. It is shocking what the findings are on every level.
00:18:04.660 and it leads and let's let's as a pregnant start we're over a hundred percent of debt to gb gdp
00:18:12.460 right now that is in a very period that's in that that's not a great place to be the theory
00:18:17.700 the case of trump beset navarro is we're going to grow our way out of here right with other elements
00:18:23.720 there until we had the excursion in iran you guys were on the path to do that we're kind of back to
00:18:30.100 doing that now you talked yesterday about the two percent growth and the million jobs have been
00:18:34.000 created here the last you know six months so we got an we have a hard enough time of what we're
00:18:41.020 doing right now with what we inherited from biden okay with the seven trainings excess spending
00:18:45.540 what cea has done is gone to the democratic socialist i'm gonna turn it over you and walk
00:18:52.180 us through if this plan even the conception of this plan if they ever get power in the house
00:18:59.600 in the Senate, forget the White House House or the Senate, the bond market is going to go crazy.
00:19:07.140 If you think your 10-year Treasury right now that is over 5.2 percent or the 30-year,
00:19:12.660 the bond market is going to reject this outright when they fully understand what these guys intend.
00:19:17.620 The floor is yours, sir.
00:19:20.020 The debt-to-GDP ratio is not an abstraction, Steve.
00:19:23.600 The reason why it's important is because it tells you how much of your tax dollars you need to pay service on the debt, okay?
00:19:33.580 And you get to thresholds where you really don't have enough money coming in to pay for government things.
00:19:44.240 You're just giving it to the debt holder.
00:19:46.660 So here's a couple.
00:19:48.020 What the study does, and by the way, the new guy is good.
00:19:51.640 He replaced Stephen Mirren when Mirren went to the Fed.
00:19:55.580 He's got a good crew up there.
00:19:57.040 I see him all the time.
00:19:58.020 They're right above me.
00:19:58.760 They come down and we talk about stuff.
00:20:01.540 But what they did was they looked at the eight policy pillars of the Democrat Socialists of America agenda.
00:20:09.600 It's things like no student debt.
00:20:13.520 Well, hang on.
00:20:14.220 I want to put Denver, put it up.
00:20:15.880 Yeah.
00:20:16.720 Not just to cover.
00:20:17.800 Let's go to the contents page.
00:20:19.520 We're going to walk right down it.
00:20:20.880 So you got you got the no student debt, the free tuition, open borders, mass amnesty, Green New Deal, rent control, a 32 hour work week, abolishing prisons and the cops and the well tax.
00:20:35.500 Yeah, and the big kahuna is Medicare for all.
00:20:38.460 So by the numbers, $50 trillion, Steve, $50 trillion of additional debt.
00:20:49.140 That's how you get to 254% debt-to-GDP ratio.
00:20:54.340 Now, they do say that they're going to pay for all of this.
00:20:56.660 And how many years?
00:21:01.400 2030-something, something like that.
00:21:04.020 Oh, you're talking about, like, five, ten years.
00:21:06.260 It happens quickly.
00:21:08.280 It happens quickly.
00:21:08.860 Because Medicare for All kicks in right away.
00:21:10.640 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:11.100 I mean, it happens quickly, okay, and it's ramping up quickly.
00:21:15.580 But they say they're going to pay for it all with a billionaire's tax, okay?
00:21:22.520 And, look, you and I have thought that a billionaire's tax is not a bad idea.
00:21:29.000 You know, we've had that conversation.
00:21:30.580 It depends on kind of how you do it, but, you know, we're populous.
00:21:34.020 I'd like to take a few bucks out of Mark Zuckerberg to pay back for the election.
00:21:38.340 This is not official White House.
00:21:39.760 This is not official White House.
00:21:40.940 Not official White House.
00:21:42.080 This is counter to the.
00:21:43.920 We've talked about this.
00:21:44.660 I got it.
00:21:45.140 I got it.
00:21:45.620 I got it.
00:21:45.700 But this thing.
00:21:46.540 This is the peanut gallery.
00:21:47.520 This thing is the billionaire tax.
00:21:50.360 It's 5% a year on net worth forever.
00:21:54.260 And it raises.
00:21:55.320 Well, hang on.
00:21:55.820 This is the key to this.
00:21:56.820 This is not a revenue.
00:21:58.080 This is not an income tax.
00:21:59.320 This is an asset.
00:22:00.280 It's a wealth tax.
00:22:02.280 It's what it's what.
00:22:02.980 Yeah. And it's not a it's not a windfall tax. It's not a one shot deal.
00:22:06.780 OK, which which if you creep up on him and hit him with that, then it doesn't change behavior.
00:22:11.940 But as soon as you. OK, but anyway, it only raises this may not even pass in California.
00:22:17.240 It only raises three and a half trillion dollars. Right. I mean, that's that's a lot of money.
00:22:21.880 That's how much we're going to raise with our tariffs. It's a lot of money.
00:22:25.100 But when you compare it to the 50 trillion that it's supposed to finance, it's absolutely nothing.
00:22:32.520 So you work your way through each of these policies.
00:22:36.600 They're in the platform, and you wind up pretty much with the end of the dollar empire on steroids.
00:22:46.260 And probably the only thing you're ever going to own or want to own is gold.
00:22:51.500 But hang on.
00:22:52.580 They take away the populist nationalist economic program of President Trump because they're anti-tariff.
00:23:01.280 Anti-tariff.
00:23:01.820 They're anti-tariff.
00:23:03.020 They're anti also the forcing function to drive manufacturing back here.
00:23:07.720 When you read this, what they don't want is really high-value-added manufacturing jobs.
00:23:12.260 And the reason is that creates people's own wealth and ability.
00:23:16.020 They don't want that.
00:23:16.780 They truly are the key to this thing.
00:23:18.980 There's no jobs program in here.
00:23:20.360 There's no jobs program.
00:23:20.960 Okay, to be clear, the Democrat socialists of America have no economic plan to grow the economy.
00:23:29.560 And no industrial plan.
00:23:30.360 The only thing they do is engineer a massive transfer of wealth, which is not like a zero-sum game.
00:23:38.620 It's a negative-sum game because in the process of transferring all this wealth, they create an untenable fiscal situation which collapses everything.
00:23:48.080 Okay, but I'm going to say something here, and you can take this back to the CEA.
00:23:52.300 The guys in the ivory tower, and they're great.
00:23:56.620 This math works out.
00:23:57.400 However, let me give you some real world.
00:24:00.360 it's twice as bad as this. And here's why. Really, the whole heart of it is government run
00:24:07.020 health care. That is the huge amount of expense. There's no industrial policy here. There's no
00:24:13.500 using tax and tariffs as a way to forcing function to, you know, the tax cuts and the
00:24:20.780 tariffs as a forcing function to get high value added manufacturing jobs. The reason is they're
00:24:26.120 not interested in jobs they want people to be dependent when you actually do the math of how
00:24:30.660 the economy will radically slow even with this uh the wealth tax and i have a lot of different ideas
00:24:37.340 about how you do this i'm not i don't agree with this one but you're going to have an economy
00:24:42.840 that's going to be sinking quite rapidly and not no job creation particularly no job creation of
00:24:47.780 high value-added manufacturing jobs all the construction on factories you see here now
00:24:51.660 that all stops so the 50 trillion is light i think it's 10 or i think it's 60 or 65
00:24:58.240 knock-on effects they're not knock-on effects they haven't they haven't modeled out don't i'm not
00:25:02.560 blaming the what they've done here is fantastic because you read this first order effects first
00:25:08.260 order and people this ought to be weaponized you get to 50 trillion this ought to be weaponized
00:25:13.160 by the republican party today correct i don't think we're talking enough about economics and
00:25:18.260 Trump's economic plan.
00:25:20.400 Yes, you go to the Fox News filter, and all you do is see them build up, and they don't 1.00
00:25:26.600 even realize they're doing it, they're so friggin' stupid, build up the Mondamis of 1.00
00:25:32.400 this world and the El Saeeds in Michigan. 1.00
00:25:34.300 It's like, why did they give these guys free commercials because they're idiots? 1.00
00:25:40.460 No, no, they're not. 1.00
00:25:41.700 Okay.
00:25:42.280 They're very smart.
00:25:43.140 The Murdochs want to get past Trump as quickly as possible, and Trumpism.
00:25:46.960 They are neoliberal neocons.
00:25:48.840 Do you think the blow-dried talent understands that?
00:25:52.820 The blow-dried talent is just doing what they're told.
00:25:55.020 Right.
00:25:55.240 There's no – even though it's like Ailes ran the place.
00:25:58.240 There's no individual decision-making over there.
00:26:00.140 My point is that this report –
00:26:01.460 They set up in the morning, we're running this through the A-blocks, and you guys are going to run through the A-blocks.
00:26:05.760 It's the editorial page.
00:26:08.060 It's Paul G. Joe's –
00:26:10.020 This thing comes out, like yesterday, and I hear it through the grapevine.
00:26:17.060 It's like, wait a minute.
00:26:18.000 Let me see this thing.
00:26:18.960 So I do my thing.
00:26:20.580 If all goes well, there'll be a piece up in the Washington Times Monday or Tuesday on this.
00:26:25.680 You're doing the analysis.
00:26:26.080 I'm going to push it.
00:26:27.040 I've done the analysis.
00:26:28.900 It's written.
00:26:29.800 I'm sending it in to Kelly Sadler today.
00:26:32.340 And they got the open borders.
00:26:34.000 They got all that.
00:26:34.720 And it's like but but this is what the people going into an election, which arguably we keep saying this, Steve, but it's all always true because the stakes get higher and higher.
00:26:46.640 It's like the most important election we're going to face in our lifetime, because if we lose the House and the Senate, it's it's over.
00:26:57.000 I mean, give me one more.
00:26:58.440 You're sticking around.
00:26:59.900 Joy Pullman from the Federalists.
00:27:02.260 Sean Davis is a great fellow.
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00:28:07.520 Joy Pullman from The Federalist next.
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00:29:47.380 folks from france to brazil to lara logan we're going to be talking about the h1b problem
00:29:55.100 all of it uh chris leonard's going to be here we are absolutely packed today dr navarre is with
00:30:00.500 he's going to ride shotgun for a while uh joy pullman joins us from the great federalist joy
00:30:07.780 thank you for changing your saturday saturday around to join us the story the uh article you
00:30:13.980 wrote, and you've got it, Navarra, if you check your phone, how boomers can save what's left of
00:30:20.100 America for younger generations. It's kind of a bombshell. I want you to take a moment and just
00:30:26.560 walk through your theory of the case, and we can get that headline up there so everybody on
00:30:31.080 television and streaming can watch it. Joy, the floor is yours, ma'am. Well, thanks for having me
00:30:37.920 on. This is something I've been thinking about for really a long time, so I had the opportunity to
00:30:42.320 but work into a really big piece here. And so there's a lot. So I'll try to just do a couple
00:30:47.280 of bullet points. The first thing I thought it was important to establish is that the young people,
00:30:52.080 well, the first thing I think I start with is asking people whether they think
00:30:55.600 that younger generations, so I'm a millennial and younger Zoomers, have a better world today
00:31:01.620 than the boomers did to grow up in. And the other thing that I point out is a lot of the good things
00:31:07.900 that boomers had were gifts given to them that they didn't earn. So for example, growing up in 0.57
00:31:12.860 a society where you have more married parents available to be taking care of kids, that's 0.88
00:31:18.960 something that the boomers didn't earn, right? It's a gift given to them. Growing up in a post-World 0.86
00:31:23.520 World War II kind of society, obviously World War II, difficult time there, but the boomers are
00:31:28.900 after that. So they were given a lot of the global growth that obviously is over. They also grew up
00:31:35.900 in a time in which, you know, their classrooms had better instruction and were not full of people
00:31:40.920 speaking 147 different languages, right? So that's something not earned that is a gift to them that
00:31:46.700 enabled their success. I really think, and you can, there's the data that bears this out,
00:31:52.040 you know, that the boomers had a better education than younger folks, even though younger folks have
00:31:55.880 a lot more credentials, right? Because our college degrees are really worthless nowadays
00:31:59.560 from most institutions. So then the next thing I talk about is how, you know, the federal government,
00:32:05.820 So, you know, so the boomers have this inheritance, both financial and cultural, that was given to them that we young people really do not have anymore.
00:32:13.820 And I do think that the older generations are starting to realize this, but there still is a lot of really not understanding the struggles and the culture that the younger race in. 0.65
00:32:22.220 Because, frankly, you know, the wealthier boomers can price them out of our deteriorating culture, right?
00:32:27.320 I can't take my kids to the library without them seeing disgusting essential pornography, right, my kids?
00:32:32.420 So that's, you know, public resources spent on a place that should be nice for me.
00:32:36.580 And it's not nice for me. It was nice for the boomers. Right. 1.00
00:32:39.700 You know, so we have to compete to try to find housing with tons of immigrants from all over the world with people who have inflated incomes because they're living off of retirement funds, often funded by taxpayers. 0.94
00:32:51.220 You know, so young people are trying to find a place to live and they have to compete and buy a home in a worse neighborhood or pay out the nose to live in circumstances that the boomers are living in. 0.87
00:33:00.900 So the people with wealth, which at this point, you know, I think it's obviously the boomers are the wealthiest generation in American history.
00:33:08.500 They really have priced themselves out of living in the hellhole that a lot of younger people are encountering.
00:33:14.100 And so this isn't just an economic situation.
00:33:16.100 So I look at the economics.
00:33:17.780 That's also a cultural situation where we young people, again, you know, discriminated against for our skin color, for our sex.
00:33:24.280 Obviously not me because I'm one of the, you know, blessed sex.
00:33:27.800 I'm a female.
00:33:28.460 But, you know, young men.
00:33:29.380 You know, really, the competition has been tilted against them in the entire pipeline of getting to a place where they can make a family wage earning job. 0.52
00:33:36.980 And then, of course, we have all of these jobs that used to be available to boomers without a college degree getting shipped overseas and or given to imported basically a servant class of foreign wage earners.
00:33:47.540 So we have this just really rough situation in which the young of America have a lot of unrest.
00:33:52.100 I do think that there is a lot of envy and a lot of lack of understanding of the historical difficulties.
00:33:59.380 America's young are very poorly educated, haven't heard much actual history, you know, haven't thought about, you know, pioneers, right, what they had to go through to just try to stay alive in previous situations and how great that we still have it, even though boomers get all their health care paid for and the retirement funds are creating inflation for us.
00:34:18.000 Our life is pretty dang good, but young people don't know that because of their lack of education. Right. 0.62
00:34:22.800 So I do think there is there's some unjust kind of criticism of the boomer generation that I try to go through.
00:34:27.940 But there actually is a lot of just criticism. And I raise that not because, look, I love boomers.
00:34:33.240 You know, my parents are boomers. Aunts and uncles are boomers. My adopted grandparents at church are boomers.
00:34:38.020 They are wonderful people. You know, so this isn't about generational warfare, but really helping the generations to come together.
00:34:44.860 And I think that starts with the older generation understanding the different circumstances that the younger folks are facing and then deciding to leave a legacy that addresses those issues with the resources that they do have that honestly many of them really were given and, you know, didn't earn because they were the best generation in entire world history.
00:35:05.560 the issue is i made this film uh called generation zero back in 2009 and 2010 it was about the
00:35:15.640 financial crisis and what was going to happen and one of the constructs we used was this thing
00:35:19.740 called turnings and the the the four turnings that america's cyclical history goes through
00:35:24.840 we had a guy on there one of the subject matter experts a guy named john zanakis a greek american
00:35:30.340 very brilliant guy kind of an odd duck but very brilliant he was a specialist in generational
00:35:34.960 dynamics. This happens in every turning. We've had, you know, the Revolution, the Civil War,
00:35:41.620 Great Depression, World War II, and now today with the financial crash and the rise of President
00:35:46.560 Trump. It happens about every 80 to 100 years. His theory, though, is quite different than your
00:35:51.980 ending. He says, hey, generational dynamics and the different needs of generations and their
00:35:57.320 different worldviews, particularly of how they're raised and how they're educated, leaves gaps that
00:36:03.760 are almost unbridgeable uh joy pullman you're you're i i think your analysis is correct but
00:36:10.580 aren't you a little pollyannish at the end about we're all just going to have a group hug because
00:36:15.160 you're not you can see right now in the dynamics of people under 40 that you know don't have family
00:36:20.340 formations don't you know that you can't get men can't get jobs to support my dad was a lineman
00:36:25.080 for a family of five kids my mom was a housemaker of course her job is the hardest of all but he
00:36:33.500 did it on essentially a blue collar and maybe later lower white collar salary and sent them 0.96
00:36:39.620 all to Catholic school. That's that's just not doable. And it's not going to be you listen to 0.83
00:36:43.080 Navarro's his best case. Forget the Democratic Socialists, the best case on the economic side.
00:36:48.980 You're not going to come close to that. So how are you going to have the group hug that you're
00:36:52.400 you're you're you're asking for the boomers to understand that, hey, we had it great because 0.94
00:36:57.700 that was the beginning of the cycle. Post-war America, we were undamaged. The greatest generation 0.79
00:37:02.780 where our parents uh you know it's you're living in a golden age the 1950s all the way i would say
00:37:08.540 up to kennedy's assassination so how do you have what how do you are you simply proposing we have
00:37:14.000 a group hug well absolutely not and if you you know uh throughout the article i say things like
00:37:19.540 right we are basically have a situation right for revolutionary politics right with the ignorance
00:37:24.580 and the lack of stake in the current economy of the young people right that we as as you probably 0.54
00:37:30.400 know better than I do, that is a situation set up to essentially erase the American history of
00:37:35.920 self-government, right? And I also, you know, have done a fair amount of work at, you know,
00:37:39.940 my latest book about the decrease in family formation and how that affects people really
00:37:45.540 does not provide people the resources to be self-governing when they grew up in broken homes.
00:37:50.640 You know, we have approximately half broken homes in this society, right? So we do have a different
00:37:55.960 people that does require a different system of government. But what my goal here is, is to
00:38:01.200 persuade the persuadable and to help the people who are willing to have their eyes open to see
00:38:06.220 the situation and to move, move, move, and to maybe give them some strategic ideas about to
00:38:12.420 deploy the resources that they have in the time that we have before things get a lot worse. And
00:38:18.300 so I do think I'm not trying to be Pollyannish. I know things are dangerous, but I also think
00:38:23.140 No, no, hang on, hang on, hang on. But, but, but, you know, fear is a, is a great motivator. Just take a second and go through your revolutionary politics. Cause I keep telling it, like I tell people all the time, particularly these donors, when you're talking to them and trying to understand, I said, if you don't wake up here of what's happening, you're going to have Mamdani or Mangione. You're going to have the bullet or you're going to have the, you're going to have the commies. So you take your pick, they're going to put you up against the wall.
00:38:50.040 So just give me the revolution. If we continue to go down the path that we're currently going down and don't make the changes, Joy Pullman says, or minimum changes that have to happen, what is the outcome, ma'am?
00:39:01.760 Well, anyone who maybe wants a little bit of historical heft for this could look at the Peasants' Revolt, you know, the French Revolution.
00:39:09.580 Anytime there is, you know, the people notice that there's a huge amount of inequality.
00:39:13.260 And it's not that, you know, normal people necessarily have a problem with some people having wealth.
00:39:19.400 But the problem is when the people with wealth seem to not give a flying fig about the people who don't have any.
00:39:25.520 And the conditions among the poor, you know, the people who don't have a stake in the system grow just like impossible for them to really live and creates a system of despair when they don't think that they can get ahead by their own efforts.
00:39:38.660 And so we are already, you're right, we're seeing the start of this in, you know, the places that are kind of the beginning that show us the future of America.
00:39:46.060 But one potential future, I don't think this is baked in stone, but places like Chicago, New York City, California, you know, places where we kind of see the leading edge of what could be happening.
00:39:57.620 You're right. We already have Mondamis, right?
00:39:59.240 Because what they do is they basically tell people that, you know, the little bit of socialism that we have now actually is capitalism and it's to blame for all the evil.
00:40:08.300 So we have to erase capitalism. Right.
00:40:10.260 And so they seize on the people's grievances and basically create a situation in which more of those grievances are going to be created, which is why we can't let them have power and need to treat this very seriously.
00:40:22.040 But anyone who, I really would encourage anyone who cannot get their head out of the sand, look, buy a cheap house, you know, in a middle, lower class, middle America neighborhood, live in it for three months. 0.95
00:40:34.580 The encounters that you will have there ought to shock you and ought to change you and make you think about the way that the other half lives. 0.72
00:40:41.680 And as Peter Thiel points out, you know, when people do not have a stake in what they're told is a capitalist system, they turn against that system. 0.99
00:40:48.660 When people cannot obtain a home, cannot obtain a job, a means of providing for themselves, they turn a revolution.
00:40:54.960 Let me just compliment you on the best sentences. Boomers are the richest generation in world history, but their children are the most bankrupt, both financially and culturally. 0.86
00:41:11.260 I think that's the thesis of your whole thing. 1.00
00:41:14.940 The one thing I'd ask you to reflect on is, first of all, there's a lot of boomers who are on on the cusp now in their in their in their sunset years.
00:41:28.220 So it's not clear to me they can afford to pay for their kids.
00:41:31.920 And number two, there's nothing you acknowledge in terms of the illegal immigration, particularly as it affects the blue cities. 0.99
00:41:41.440 I mean, we're in a world where immigrants come here illegally with their handout, and that's become part of the culture that's drained our ability to have prosperity. 0.84
00:41:51.940 So could you just kind of reflect on those two things, like the boomers not being as flush as you say they are? 1.00
00:42:02.680 Well, obviously, you know, boomers are the largest generation in American history, right?
00:42:08.080 So there's going to be some variation between, you know, people who are really living on the edge just off their Social Security and it's all they have versus people who have, you know, a couple of millions stored away and they're going to be able to give the bulk of that away when they die, right?
00:42:21.820 So obviously, I would not encourage the people, you know, who are living off of $1,000 a month, you know, that's where they are, right?
00:42:30.180 But we're talking to in terms of, you know, generational wealth, the boomers have more than any generation in American history. 0.63
00:42:38.300 And so the people who are at the end of the spectrum at which they could give, you know, maybe there's I think that they actually have a duty to do so if they care about their kids and if they care about their country.
00:42:48.940 Joy, hang on. I'm just holding for a second. We're going to go to break.
00:42:52.000 I would say this in the chat. There's not unanimity.
00:42:55.700 Boomers, they're not totally agreeing with all this. They need more data.
00:42:59.260 Also, Joe, I want to ask you about one of the reasons maybe you haven't had the wealth transfer.
00:43:05.020 You're going to have, I think, the largest wealth transfer in history as the boomers as we exit this veil of tears.
00:43:11.260 But we'll get to all that. 0.74
00:43:13.040 I'm going to go to France next because I think you're seeing in the streets of France right now the manifestation of what Joy Pullman is talking about.
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00:46:16.860 I've had Navarro walk through what the Democrat socialists are prepared to do that will put us in bankruptcy so quickly that it'll make people's head swims.
00:46:28.880 Joy Pullman has given us the reality check of what's going on between this generational dynamics.
00:46:35.660 Let me call it that.
00:46:37.020 In France, over the last 72 hours, it's been manifested in the streets of France.
00:46:42.800 Ben Harnwell, what do you got for us, sir?
00:46:46.140 Steve, good morning. Dr. Navarro, great to see you back in the War Room studios. Look, I'm going to follow off from what Joy Pullman was saying because it's pretty much perfect and has set me up for this.
00:46:58.500 the protests in France are not what one may have anticipated to be. Let's put it like that.
00:47:07.400 The French political class, the French commentariat are slightly bemused, in fact,
00:47:13.740 because they can't quite pin the source of the anger which is driving these protests on the
00:47:19.660 proclaimed reasons from the students themselves. Let's break it down figures, right, facts and
00:47:26.120 figures, how big these protests are in France, because it's absolutely incredible. Of the 3,700
00:47:32.120 or so schools, about a third now have been closed down in one way or another, about 1,200 schools.
00:47:39.740 About 300 or so police and firemen have been injured. But most alarmingly, Steve,
00:47:45.940 they've had over 5,000 arrests of kids, right? That's a phenomenal number over the last few days.
00:47:55.340 And what are the kids talking about?
00:47:56.640 They say they want more spending, basically, on schools.
00:47:59.340 Now, when I say France is watching this, open-mouthed, but slightly bemused at this,
00:48:05.920 France is in the top third of EU countries in terms of education expenditure per student.
00:48:12.160 It's by no means at the bottom rank.
00:48:14.960 Obviously, because of the financial crisis across the world, there are budgetary pressures, right?
00:48:23.620 I would say, if you're asking me what this is about, what's really driving this, if you go beyond what the kids themselves are saying, it's this.
00:48:31.200 And this, I think, ties in to what's been on the show already, what Joy Pullman was saying, right?
00:48:36.700 It's that kids today, and Steve, you've basically been pointing, saying this for five years on this show, kids today have no future.
00:48:45.920 They have been shafted by their respective political classes, country by country, and they know it.
00:48:52.740 They might not be able to pin the tail on the donkey and get it absolutely right as to how they've been shifted, but they have a very strong sense of it. They see social media, they see the news, they see the rise of AI, what's that going to do to jobs moving forward.
00:49:09.620 they see the sort of austerity that the european union is moving towards whilst at the same time
00:49:15.420 saying they need to find more money to be able to fight uh a war a hot war with russia they see
00:49:23.380 these things going and they realize as these are school kids that in two or three years they are
00:49:28.880 going to be thrown out onto a barren employment market and they're and they have absolutely
00:49:35.180 nothing so they're not they might not be expressing it like that they might not be
00:49:39.060 citing the invasion that's going on and there's always money found for invaders
00:49:43.440 right they might not be citing these things sort of textually because they're just kids
00:49:51.220 but they have a very strong sense of how they have no hope and I think if you understand it
00:49:58.100 from that perspective you see where the anger is coming from because this is lighting up now
00:50:03.460 Now, this whole strata, as I say, one third of French schools have been closed over recent days.
00:50:11.080 It's the violence, and by the way, France has got a budget crisis because they don't have – like we have a reserve currency.
00:50:18.100 They don't have the dollar.
00:50:19.760 They've got, I think, a $50 billion gap.
00:50:22.220 They can't figure out how to thing, and one of the reasons they're talking about it is they may have to cut education.
00:50:26.700 Joy, I know you've got to bounce.
00:50:28.160 You've got kids.
00:50:28.760 Is this what the future of the United States has unless we get organized on this and understand that we've got to start addressing these problems while we still have the time, while control is still in our hands, ma'am?
00:50:41.420 That's absolutely my argument. 0.81
00:50:43.060 And I also argue that boomers need to not wait until the end of their lives to start giving things to young people.
00:50:48.420 And it should not just be money, but it also needs to be their experience, their relationships, and their apprenticeship. 0.68
00:50:53.460 You know, boomers have so much knowledge about how the world works and how to run things that really needs to be passed on to the young people.
00:51:01.800 And the other thing that I just really want people to remember is that looking at these images from France really illustrates what the founders really believe, true historically always, a middle class creates stability for a society.
00:51:13.940 They wanted to have a broadly middle-class society.
00:51:16.880 When young people are priced out of the things that you have to have to live, housing, health care, education, job market,
00:51:24.160 all the core costs are being killed by inflation, which is driven by our old age entitlements,
00:51:29.640 people lose stake in that system and they become revolutionary.
00:51:33.060 They can succumb to despair.
00:51:35.580 I also argue that despair is the antithesis.
00:51:38.700 It's also a symptom of us losing our faith in Christianity.
00:51:41.800 And so the number one thing that anybody who cares about the situation can do is get young people to church and in Christian education, because the number one driver of secularism and the loss of children, marriage and family among a society is people losing their faith.
00:51:56.720 And that comes, research shows, from putting kids in secular public schools. 0.64
00:52:00.680 So with the Trump funding for private schools, for tax credit scholarships coming up, huge generational opportunity to really address these issues quickly before France comes here. 0.67
00:52:12.620 Joy, real quickly, where do they go on social media to get you? 0.76
00:52:15.320 And the great Sean Davis's great Federalist, where do they get your writings?
00:52:19.300 You can just get me on X at Joy Pullman, two L's, two N's, and thefederalist.com.
00:52:25.340 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you.
00:52:27.500 Back to your kids. Fantastic.
00:52:29.900 Not unanimity there in the war room posse, but we're going to talk about...
00:52:33.340 Harnwell, you're going to stick around.
00:52:34.480 We're going to go... Navarro's going to stick.
00:52:37.160 We're going to Brazil next.
00:52:39.480 Liberation Day is tomorrow in Brazil against the Marxist CCP puppet Lula.
00:52:47.380 Alan Dos Santos joins us in the war room.
00:52:50.740 Lara Logan, Ben Harnwell, Dr. Peter Navarro, Chris Leonard.
00:52:55.020 It's All-Star Saturday in the war room.
00:52:59.100 Never forget, it's going to take you out one of the top songs in country music.
00:53:03.340 Back in a moment.
00:53:08.680 Never love freedom free in the world.
00:53:11.360 Raise up the flag, get down and pray.
00:53:14.720 Tell your kids what happened that day.
00:53:18.060 Never forget.
00:53:23.820 Never forget.
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