00:01:22.140And so we're going to go back in the France with the harm on a moment.
00:01:26.700But I got to go to a ray of light, particularly given hemispheric defense, how important Latin America and South America is to the United States.
00:01:36.480Alan dos Santos joins us. Alan, just give us a snapshot on tomorrow, a massive election.
00:01:42.860Second only to the midterm elections here is the election tomorrow in Brazil.
00:01:48.620Lula, the Marxist CCP puppet, up against Bolsonaro, the great paratrooper Jair Bolsonaro's son, eldest son, Flavio.
00:03:02.420Well, Lula was elected in November 2002.
00:03:07.560In 2003, Lula was already connecting China to Brazil.
00:03:15.320Dilma Rousseff, his former secretary, also managed to take off the United States as the first partner that we used to have for more than 100 years.
00:03:29.020So China became the first principal partnership to Brazil, Brazil's trade, due to Lula.
00:03:39.860And we are calling this Lula 3 because this is the third time he's president of Brazil.
00:03:45.500He is making a lot of contract with every China business or China company, state company or free personal company in China.
00:04:03.000They are having contract with every single part of the executive power in Brazil right now.
00:04:11.460So you can see the infrastructure is controlled by them. Oil, controlled by them. Seeds, controlled by them. Meat, controlled by them. Every single port in Brazil right now is controlled by China. And politicians, too.
00:04:30.040Yeah. And if I may, this is a huge problem. Brazil, for example, when we put the tariffs on, Steve, we had a big problem with Brazil.
00:04:40.480We have one. What they did immediately was shift meat around in a way in global markets because JBS is a Brazilian company right here, part of the beef cartel.
00:04:53.480And the next thing we know, beef prices are soaring, and Brazil is threatening us to keep making beef prices go up unless we put the tariffs down.
00:05:04.980And the way they're doing it is by shipping the beef off to China instead of here.
00:08:28.660But they tried to put the Catholic bishops from the National Conference of Bishops in Brazil against Flávio Bolsonaro in the last week of the election.0.97
00:08:40.280And it's quite ridiculous because Lula is a voodoo guy.0.95
00:09:12.080Okay, walk us through the structure of the race.
00:09:13.940Tomorrow is round one. If somebody gets 50 percent plus one vote, they win. Right.
00:09:19.980If you don't get that, what happens? And tell us where the polling is right now.
00:09:25.420And then go to the second term. But I do believe that a lot of voters that would vote for Lula or would vote for candidates that would have less than three or four percent of the results,
00:09:42.180They will change and they will vote for Flavio. Flavio is very excited.
00:09:47.080You can see every single post on his account on Internet that where he's going.
00:09:53.520He's getting a crowd of Brazilians supporting him and supporting his father, who was illegally arrested by Alexandre de Moraes,
00:10:02.980who is very, very sad with this situation
00:10:07.620because a lot of corruption scandals involving Daniel Vorcaro,
00:10:13.700the Bank of Master owner, and Alexandre de Moraes.
00:10:18.120So we have right now a lot of scandals being disclosed
00:10:23.380by the federal police in Brazil, and that goes direct straight to Lula.
00:10:30.580and so and so if if nobody gets to 50 percent three weeks from now we have a runoff so you
00:10:37.920basically start monday morning and you have three weeks to run off is that how it works
00:10:41.920yeah the second term is in 15 days after tomorrow
00:10:45.880hey um how big a problem is um election theft uh in brazil um it's the worst they stole it from
00:10:57.580Yeah, I hear. And the question is, put him in prison. What they want to do to Trump, the Lula's done in Brazil.
00:11:02.600Give me give me give me the mic just for one second here, because we had a major primetime address several weeks ago by President Trump, who released previously classified intel on how China has built up, has built up enormous capabilities to influence our presidential elections.
00:11:26.040I've got to assume that you've got that problem in Brazil.
00:11:31.360Can you describe kind of what you know about that problem and what Bolsonaro's people are doing to try to counter that?
00:11:40.400Because if Lula can put his thumb on the scale and even move three to five percent of the vote, that's probably enough.
00:11:48.480So tell us there's going to be at least some countermeasures there.
00:11:52.760well three things the only one video that trump uh tweeted my videos was about uh
00:12:02.880electronic vote electronic vote in brazil uh and second thing is we need to remember
00:12:11.100secretary of state uh exposed how chequevada sorry chequevada is not the name but ugo chavez
00:14:49.960I've got Doc here with me, Chris Leonard, on deck next in the war room.
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00:16:46.320Okay, we're going to clear your seat up for Chris Leonard, a real celebrity. Just kidding.
00:16:50.460Lord Seasen Money is going to be here in a minute. Yeah, he's coming in. And you've
00:16:55.940You have to go finish your workout and then go to the White House because Navarro, we'll never brag about this, but Navarro works seven days a week.
00:17:13.180And that's one of the reasons we're so proud of you.
00:17:16.560France, Brazil, the United States, your thoughts and why we need to take down the medical deep state by starting with Fauci, sir.0.97
00:17:25.940Well, the end of France began with illegal immigration flooding, and it's a Muslim takeover of what once was a Christian nation.0.98
00:17:39.400I mean, if you want to look what the future might look like here, and it's moving that way, just look to France.0.98
00:17:45.900And look, the folks who are turning stuff over in the streets, the young folks, I mean, they have very, very legitimate uncertainties about how the world's going because their leaders, such as they are, have not really done a very good job.
00:18:03.220But but memo to folks heading to the polls who are like under 30, under 25.
00:18:10.160It's like. You just got to do your history here, you know, whether it's Huey Long in Louisiana or Hugo Chavez in Venezuela or Mondami in New York.
00:18:20.940Don't be messing with LCI. Don't be messing with Huey Long, man.
00:18:25.420Do not go there. The message is like I'm giving you free stuff.
00:18:55.700Steve told me The War Room is the best audience to buy books.
00:18:59.300I'm not sure how many Americans are buying books anymore.
00:19:02.900If you buy this book, we get this around enough, he will go to prison because the whole idea is to make people aware of the crimes he has committed that he needs to be responsible for.
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00:24:43.220Yeah, it is. Look, these protests remind me of the protests again in France in 2023 when Macron extended the retirement age, extended the retirement age from 62 to 64.
00:25:00.320And then, of course, you know, they were all the French. That was absolutely ridiculous that they're going to have to work until they're 64.0.71
00:25:35.520It's similar on the left. You saw this in America with the George Floyd protests. Again, vastly exceeded, I think, the principal cause, but it tapped into an anger that's there on the left.
00:25:49.000So my takeaway on this, Steve, is, you know, it's like the poem by Yeats, the second coming, the centre isn't holding.
00:25:57.020That's what the West, that's what our sociopathic overlords should be thinking about each night when they go to bed.
00:26:04.440This is what they've created a world. The centre is no longer holding.
00:26:08.340And the reason for that is very simple, and that is the global elites that have hedged this system for the benefit of the plutocrats and the billionaires have basically left everyone absolutely shafted with no chance of moving on.
00:26:24.520And they know it. People know it. They're not stupid.
00:26:27.360They might not be able to precisely academically align cause and effect, but they have a very strong sense that they are excluded from the possibility of moving forward and that their political class could not care less. They do not care less.0.96
00:26:44.060Tej Gill was saying, you know, that legislators in America need to see what's going on in France so that they don't let the same thing happen to America.
00:26:52.400They don't care. They don't care. Our political leadership simply doesn't care.
00:26:57.960The only thing, Steve, to come back to a point that you say time and again, this only changes when we change it.
00:27:05.580Country by country, this only changes when we change it. How do we change it?
00:27:09.580We select the right candidates and then we elect them. And that's it.
00:27:13.520But the underlying point here, that anger that exists in France is symptomatic of the anger that exists right across the European Union and again, again, in the United States as well.
00:27:25.480In the West. Yep, you're seeing it. Ben, where do people go for your social media? Your shows are on fire. Where do people go to get more of your content, sir?
00:27:34.300i'm on the unmentionable platform ben underscore harnwell um and my direct uh unique posts you'll
00:27:44.180find us on getter simply at harnwell which is my surname thanks steve god bless oh and by the way
00:27:49.600let me fight back on what you just said if i may when you were finishing with dr navarro the lord
00:32:29.780Why did you decide on the military-industrial complex?
00:32:32.840Why have you gone back to the beginning, particularly before World War II?
00:32:36.180and has it changed you and your perspective of america as a constitutional republic wow huge
00:32:44.060question i mean okay at the beginning you know my my primary concern and obsession as an author
00:32:51.140is the united states love this country born and raised of course and i'm obsessed with how things
00:32:58.260work in the united states i'm obsessed with power who has it how do they wield it who makes the
00:33:03.300decisions. And, you know, we talked a little bit about this. I'm not too sophisticated as a guy.
00:33:09.440I like to write about areas in our political economic system where you see a lot of concentrated
00:33:15.420power. That's why I wrote the book about the Fed. My eyes kind of opened through interviewing people
00:33:20.400out there in the real world that, oh, my God, this institution is incredibly important. What it does
00:33:25.340affects us all. And the military industrial complex, to me, seemed like just a key part
00:33:33.000of the engine room of U.S. power. You know, you look at our connections with other countries,
00:33:39.280our role in the world as the supreme armed country, effectively policing and enforcing
00:33:46.740a global system of trade and capitalism. This military system is the sort of foundational
00:33:52.560power of that. And in the United States, we have made a decision, and this is why I write about
00:33:58.040the history, we made a decision basically in about 1939 or 1940, that the way we were going to do this
00:34:04.760was that the state would partner with these private sector corporations. They would harness
00:34:10.180the power of private sector industrial power in the United States, and that we would have this
00:34:15.260hybrid public-private system to support our military and then support our allies. So I wanted
00:34:21.200to write about this to get right to the heart of it. I really want to explain to people how
00:34:25.260the system came to be. I want to explain to people how this system really works because
00:34:29.120a lot of it, it sounds like a cliche, but it is behind closed doors. It's in parts of our world
00:34:35.060that most people can't access. It's been really difficult for me to access even things like our
00:34:39.720own embassies overseas, let alone the Pentagon, let alone the offices of these private contractors.
00:34:45.420And I really do see my job as a servant of the public to go deep, get the best facts I can get, go as deep as I can and give the people a report of how things work and how they came to be, really.
00:34:59.860So your piece in the Atlantic, because you had about the missile systems, but you spent time in the Middle East.
00:35:06.040Obviously, among the Trump base, there's a lot of discontent about this war.
00:35:11.280And under 40, they want out and they want out now.0.97
00:35:15.440But even guys like Mike Rogers, people running for the Senate, I think Marshall and Kansas, they're all stepping up to the microphone and go, this war has got to end.
00:35:58.360For example, in the United Arab Emirates, that's a country with its own agenda.
00:36:04.520We've talked about MBZ, as you call him.
00:36:08.040That dude's on a nation-building project, has been for decades.
00:36:13.760And by selling these expensive, very complicated weapon systems to a country like the UAE, we bind them to us in terms of security.
00:36:23.420And I've interviewed the folks who sell the weapons in the UAE, and they say that's the goal of doing this.
00:36:29.760So when you look at this system globally, the way I put it is you kind of see a very unsentimental picture, kind of an X-ray image of U.S. power, U.S. alliances overseas.
00:36:41.000And does in that sale, though, does that inextricably bind you, and the American people don't quite understand it, that we have an implicit compact that's more than –
00:36:51.380Because remember, we don't really have treaties with these countries.
00:36:53.500We don't have a treaty with Israel because they couldn't get it passed by two-thirds of the Senate
00:36:57.660because the founders were smart enough to know if you're going to have a treaty,
00:37:00.580you've got to bring the country together to support it.
00:37:03.000Have we implicitly set ourselves up for essentially military treaties
00:37:08.640and alliances with these people that are hard to break
00:37:12.240because we've got these defense systems or missile systems
00:37:17.560that are inextricably linked with their own security?
00:37:20.680You know, first of all, that is the idea without question. That is the goal of the U.S. Department of State, again, to kind of avoid having to actually have formal alliances that would have to be voted on.
00:37:32.020The American people get a say so because you would get thumbs down on all of it.
00:37:35.700We wouldn't want to have this network of alliances, but it's to do it this way and to really bind it.
00:37:40.480Yes. Let's talk about let's talk about the F-16.
00:37:43.340And so the NDAA, which must pass, they always say, we've got to pay the troops, but really the subtext of it is that you also have to make all the weapons systems, et cetera, that gets to these alliances we never really had a vote on, right?
00:37:55.800Yes, because the idea is you sell a major weapons system like the F-16 to the Emiratis.
00:38:01.380You're now signing a contract for 10, 15, 20 years of spare parts, upgrades, new munitions, and so it ties the countries that close together.
00:38:11.180But, you know, if I could, one thing I saw over there is the fragility of some of these relationships.
00:38:17.800One of the places I got to go is called Aldafra Air Base, just outside of Abu Dhabi.
00:38:56.760And but this this major U.S. air base outside Abu Dhabi, the United States military was almost like a tenant, a renter over there, constantly kind of on edge that they were, you know, that the lease would be terminated.
00:39:13.560And we work really hard to keep a good relationship.0.73
00:39:16.320We do joint training by that, because without us, really, because of the pressure they would get by having the great Satan there, if the Persians got too aggressive or their population would turn on the Americans and buy the jihadists, because you think if anybody were locked in with, it'd be MBZ in his capital.0.84
00:39:35.740And that's why I'm talking about this because it struck me.0.85
00:39:38.260You look at the State Department cables.
00:39:40.780The concept of having a foreign power based on soil in the Middle East is extremely controversial with the people.
00:39:48.640Long memory of British colonization and so forth.
00:39:51.740And it is a very sensitive, borderline dangerous decision for a leader in a Gulf country to say, okay, we're going to host the United States Air Force military and Marines right here on our soil.
00:40:06.020And to me, the relationship never seemed easy.
00:40:09.420I mean, a lot of those buildings on Al-Dafra are still temporary buildings.
00:40:13.360You had Marines sleeping in tents like we never really could set up permanent shop there.
00:40:17.560This is because Osama bin Laden, the whole thing of the attack on 9-11 was to get back at the—they're trying to overthrow the Saudi royal family because of the basing of American troops, the Christians during the Gulf War, which they thought was a sacrilege to the people that oversee the two holy sites of Mecca and Medina, right?
00:40:39.720Exactly. Is it Qatar, is the relationship at Doha, is it Qatar, so they're so small and they were such in trouble, they've just totally sold out to the Americans, and so you don't have that problem in Qatar, whereas you've still got it, even with supposedly our strongest ally in the region, MBZ?0.64
00:40:55.760ed you know the theory the working theory as i've seen it is always among the the leadership class
00:41:03.340in the gulf you get a big u.s base here it is it can be an anchor of safety it invests the u.s in
00:41:08.980your country it ties your interests with them it's this form of cooperation and it's seen it was seen
00:41:15.520now we got you know before the war in iran really changed the calculations and kind of changed the
00:41:20.680game table. It was seen as an anchor of stability making a deal with the U.S. But it can it can also
00:41:28.360cut the other way, particularly right now, where all of a sudden they start questioning it and
00:41:32.300and and the political pressure here in the United States that we just want to get out of there. We
00:41:38.160want to come home. Right. Is that going to is that going to upend the apple cart there? Not to state
00:41:43.480the obvious. We are in a deeply contingent moment. You know, these bases that were seen as a shield
00:41:50.220have now become a target that that base al-Dafra i just had a friend over there who said many of
00:41:55.820the buildings i visited have have been uh ruined they were bombed and and the iranians haven't
00:42:01.080exactly gotten all those reports have we we have not tell us about how bad it's really been
00:42:07.320in saudi arabia i was told told and i'm still working on this but i mean there were soldiers
00:42:17.300who when the air raids began had to run out into the desert away from the base they didn't feel
00:42:22.980that there was enough security in the bunkers on the base i have talked to multiple um u.s service
00:42:29.060personnel who talk about uh the the air raids the constant bombardment in countries like kuwait
00:42:35.900and when we talk about uh over isn't it over 800 injured at this point yes some of those some of
00:42:43.020those people have lost legs i mean we're not talking injured like you're talking real casualties
00:42:46.840We're talking real injuries. We're talking extensive damage. I toured a building called
00:42:51.720the Air Warfare Center in the UAE. There was a sort of a regional joint command where they would
00:42:57.580train all these Gulf partners. From my understanding, that's gone. And the Iranians
00:43:03.140have been very strategic in their targeting of hitting these U.S. assets and proving to these0.56
00:43:10.180Gulf allies of the United States, these assets are not safe.0.99
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00:45:59.160War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:46:03.600Okay, Chris, you're the master of understatement, and you kind of got that Jimmy Stewart, you know, the great Midwest innocence about you.
00:46:13.180When you say that we're in a contingent moment or a hinge of history, what do you mean, given your research, and you're going throughout the world?
00:46:21.220Over the last 40 years, the United States has been engaged in a project with a very single-minded focus, which is to build a network of alliances with Gulf nations that keeps Iran on the outside and basically controls Iran in that region from our point of view.
00:46:39.340And so we've built relationships with Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates.0.54
00:46:45.220This includes military bases, major multi-decade weapons sales.
00:46:49.340And so we had this structure of alliances and power in the region.
00:46:53.320The war in Iran has shattered the thinking and the consensus around whether that system can survive.
00:47:01.320Our allies took real, real hits during this war.
00:47:05.840I think the most effective strategy Iran enacted was to say we're not going to just hit U.S. bases.0.97
00:47:12.880We are going to hit all of their allies.0.97
00:47:14.640We are going to hit the major international airports in the United Arab Emirates.
00:47:19.340We're going to hit oil fields in Saudi Arabia.0.73
00:47:21.620They have undermined this series of alliances, and they have hit our bases with missiles, drones.0.50
00:47:29.740They've destroyed billions of dollars in infrastructure,
00:47:32.780and they've raised the questions as to whether even we, the United States, can protect those bases,
00:47:39.120let alone the cities and skyscrapers of our allies near those bases.
00:47:44.440Of the modern Las Vegas, Disneyland, Wall Street, Dubai.
00:48:06.500And it was always thought of as an asset.
00:48:08.480Never ever thought about the downside, the risk mitigation.
00:48:11.780And so what these leaders are having to think right now,
00:48:14.160Now, is being in the United States a security benefit or is it a liability?
00:48:19.480What happens when MBS makes five phone calls and panic and say, hey, the Houthis, they're now trying to surround me and take the peninsula?
00:48:26.340And President Trump says, hey, tough break for a swell guy.
00:48:29.420Well, do you remember the strike that Iran did on the Saudi oil refineries in 2019?
00:48:34.200And from the Saudi point of view, we did not come to their defense.
00:48:37.500And that started changing calculations throughout the region.
00:48:40.480That's happening again on a massive scale right now.
00:48:43.020And there is a real open question as to whether the United States and its allies will rebuild these bases that were destroyed or whether the United States retreats from this region.
00:48:53.660This week's, the cover of this week's Economist has, and we can put it up, Denver, has a silhouette of an American soldier taking his bags like he's going to an airport leaving Iraq.
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