00:03:11.420Now, despite that, in Trump's long evidence-free campaign of targeting voting and voters in California,
00:03:19.360there is, as the journalist asked, there are no evidence of any widespread non-citizen voting or vote-by-mail fraud in California
00:03:28.980and in any other state that Trump has targeted for that matter.
00:03:32.820But it hasn't stopped Trump or his administration or the Justice Department from using those false claims as part of a national effort to obtain private voter data and undermine states constitutionally mandated rights to run their own elections.
00:03:46.420As Reuters reports, quote, the department's civil rights division has demanded non-public voter data, including voters, social security numbers or dates of birth from nearly all states as part of its hunt for non-citizens on state rolls.
00:03:59.900It has sued 30 Democratic and Republican-led states that refuse to hand over their roles,
00:04:05.040but has lost 26 of those cases without winning one.
00:04:08.140This is the most examined election ever, and he is trying to do what he did in 2020.
00:04:15.280The notion here, telling supporters the election is rigged three weeks before the election,
00:04:20.780is priming them to believe something so that you can then claim it after the fact,
00:04:25.280so that you can say, well, there are all these issues.
00:04:28.840we need to seize ballots and break the chain of custody. This is priming. This is priming the
00:04:34.800people to believe in confirmation bias, basically. Reports of National Guard members standing around
00:04:40.660Washington, D.C., drop boxes and raising multiple concerns. Here's an image. National Guard near a
00:04:48.820voting drop box. A spokesperson for the Joint Task Force overseeing Guard members issued a
00:04:54.940statement saying JTFDC is actively addressing this specific, look at this, specific instance
00:05:01.160and remains fully committed to conducting its missions professionally, lawfully, and with
00:05:05.520respect for the public's constitutional rights. You can see them right in front of an official
00:05:10.860drop box for the Board of Elections in the District of Columbia. Michael, could this just
00:05:17.080be an instance of they were standing around, they just happened to be standing around this box?
00:05:21.080Absolutely. Anything is possible, and I don't want to disparage the individual characters of National Guardsmen and women who are forced to come out here for a mission that is not really defined and with goals that are not really set and with patrols that, quite frankly, aren't needed.
00:05:42.660It is difficult to explain to people who do not live here in D.C. just how much of an occupied city this has felt like for the entirety of this administration for this very reason.
00:05:56.700You can't go anywhere, including dropping your kids off at school, without seeing armed men walking around the street haphazardly for no real reason.
00:06:07.660And while they might not be trying to disenfranchise people or to discourage mail-in voting, it's going to have that intimidating effect if they're here.
00:06:20.960So after a year and a half of seeing armed agents and guardsmen, many of the agents are masked and operating as we've seen throughout the country.
00:06:32.080You know, people are going to assume the worst and that's going to undermine confidence, which, as every other panelists have noted, that's really Donald Trump's goal here is to create confusion and paranoia about the legitimacy of this election in any way they can.
00:06:49.680They keep throwing all the spaghetti at the wall.
00:06:51.960It seems like they've had not success on the voter rolls because you're batting a thousand as well.
00:06:57.400But this is just part of this like war of attrition, it feels like.
00:07:00.280Yeah. It's the through line is cheating, right? He not being able to win in a fair game. So rigging
00:07:07.060it. And you have to look back at the moment in time that we were in. Right. We had a moment
00:07:11.740where big law firms were bailing. Everyone was folding to Donald Trump at this moment when he
00:07:17.200decided to step forward and say, I'm going to rig the maps in Texas and then beyond Texas. Right.
00:07:23.200So when you put yourself back in that moment, he really thought he was going to have no barriers
00:07:27.180to entry. He was just going to be able to fly through this, gerrymander as much as he wanted,
00:07:31.300cheat as much as he wanted, and no one was ever going to say anything. And it's so clear in
00:07:35.460retrospect, when Eric Holder decided that this was going to change, we heard from the grassroots,
00:07:40.780but we weren't going to allow, like the American people weren't going to allow Donald Trump to
00:07:44.580steamroll democracy. And I think that's the easiest way to think back and look at this moment
00:07:49.240in time. We didn't just get here. You know, we don't wake up here. We've been living this for
00:07:53.380the past year, he's been trying to cheat the electorate. And that specific moment in time
00:07:58.560was right after they passed the big, beautiful bill, whatever he called it. Right. It's like
00:08:04.680we were living in this moment where he passed a bill and it's scary to look back. They knew
00:08:08.500they knew what they were doing to the economy. Right. They knew what was. Yeah. And they said,
00:08:13.680oh, we have no better plan than cheat our way out of this. We better start now.
00:08:18.120You know, Steve Bannon was interviewed by Ted Koppel, I think, on CBS Sunday morning.
00:08:24.100And he said that, you know, the basic core tenant, that one of the things that has built the MAGA movement is that Donald Trump won the 2020 election.
00:08:34.180I thought it was actually quite revealing that Steve Bannon sometimes, like, will tell the truth about something.
00:08:39.500That the thing that holds their movement together is election denialism.
00:08:43.260It's not tariffs. It's not it's not a belief in, you know, reforming this or that.
00:08:48.580It's it's fundamentally built on grievance around elections.
00:08:52.280And as John said, who gets to vote, who gets to participate, you know, what what that what what that what those results are.
00:08:59.040And so we're we're seeing these lies in California in the same way we saw the lies in Nevada, in the same way that we saw the lies in New Jersey, in the same way we saw the lies in Utah.
00:09:08.180I mean, I could go on and on. And but all of these are are are laddering up to something.
00:09:15.020And it's and it's the reason why we need to not only worry about what we win in court, but also how we explain it, because at the end of the day, what I think we did well in 2020 was winning in court.
00:09:27.300What I'm not sure we did as well in 2020 was explaining that what was being told to people was a lie.
00:09:34.740And I think Donald Trump focused on the reverse.
00:09:38.180Thursday, 15 October, Year of Our Lord, 2026.
00:09:40.860Mark Elias, please watch and listen to the interview.
00:09:50.400Of course, in God's wisdom, those years in the wilderness,
00:09:58.120it was providential because we came back bigger and stronger
00:10:00.900and tougher and more resilient than ever.1.00
00:10:04.260Not prepared to put up with this crap and this nonsense.0.99
00:10:06.560Okay. We've got California and Arizona. Shelby Bush is going to join me in a moment. I want to go to Joe Hoff. Joe, first off, you're bona fides. Of course, I can't figure out if you're the handsome twin or the smart twin between you and Jim, but I'll leave that for another day.1.00
00:10:25.580However, you did write a three-volume of books in three volumes about the Stone Election of 2020 that I thought was quite brilliant.
00:11:21.920I've done them in communist China, Japan, you know, across Asia, across Europe, South Africa, South America, U.S., Canada.
00:11:31.120I've done hundreds of audits, led them.
00:11:33.680I've been in audit committees, risk committee meetings, all this background of decades in the finance world where I had to sign off on the financials for a multi-billion block of business.
00:11:45.780And we did rigorous work to make sure every single penny was accurate.
00:11:50.000It was unbelievable the amount of work that we did, and we worked with the auditors, who they then had to sign off on the numbers, too.
00:11:57.860It's a rigorous process, and I've been on the auditing side and the finance side.
00:12:01.900Our election of 2020, in no way in any area that I looked at, could have been signed off on or met that same rigorous approach that we have in the corporate world.
00:12:11.700It's infathomable when I listen to Nicole Wallace there talking about the election.
00:13:13.300Here's the list of names we've come up with that are in your voter rolls.
00:13:16.520You tell us if those people are legitimate or not.
00:13:19.320And I can't imagine how many names they have on there.
00:13:23.780We've done, there's actually, I mentioned earlier, there's like three separate different activities that have happened in California since 2024.
00:13:33.420One was I received some information from some engineers in California.
00:13:37.200They looked at this thing called Motor Voter, where they throw basically everybody who signs up for a license into the voter roll.
00:13:45.340The only people they don't, there's a box you check where you say whether you're a citizen or not.
00:13:50.160If you say no, presumably you're not added to the voter roll.
00:13:54.540All yeses if you're a citizen, you check that, you're added.
00:13:58.080And all people that leave the box blank are added as well.
00:14:02.160That's why we see this huge influx starting in about 2018 or so or maybe more recently
00:14:08.200of people that were born overseas that is way greater than the number of people that were born
00:14:17.160overseas and became naturalized citizens. So where is this millions of people and how did they get on
00:14:23.220the voter rolls? They didn't all come from other states. Hey Joe, Joe, just hang on for one second.
00:14:29.900We're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna come back. We got Joe Hoft and we got
00:14:34.540shelby bush from arizona president trump's trying to clean it up make sure we have free and fair
00:14:40.860elections mark alias and of course the same folks who stole it in 2020 they ain't happy
00:14:47.460short commercial break back in the warm in just a moment
00:14:50.740we're a couple of months out but the midterms are fast approaching
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00:16:04.580The midterms will be here before you know it.
00:16:26.160I'm going to get Joe Hoff in a second.
00:16:28.500But breaking news, this has nothing to do with that magnificent, actually for the last week or so, but particularly this morning about Michigan, Ron Armstrong from Stand Up Michigan and Ashley Hayek, Sheen on the road to serfdom, she's fighting back, really doing a great job of the Christians up there.
00:16:51.440They're both in the field working like Trojans to deliver the grassroots.
00:17:26.940I'll get to that tomorrow because he's now trying to, you know, he's trying to get the black male vote in Wayne County, particularly in Detroit.
00:18:46.860uh paxton up by point just saying gravitational report come on come on give me the give me the
00:18:55.820give me the uh i want to hear the tsunami i want to hear the blue wave that this is a scam and
00:19:01.240msnbc's guys on tv it's exactly like in 24 in the ramps of 24 it's exactly like um 22 and 20 it's
00:19:10.320always the same pure trump hatred all these polls that he's going to get buried it's the same
00:19:14.700it's it's groundhog day it's groundhog day at msnbc groundhog day
00:19:20.920you need a metanoia msnbc you need a change of being that's what it's about you need a change
00:19:28.940of being it's not about the information you get the bill murray character shows you that
00:19:33.360metanoia change of being just follow along the war room we'll help you out here after you get
00:19:39.380stomped in this midterm election joe hoft u.s attorney in los angeles this guy's a fire breather
00:19:47.340dumped on i guess knew some of these guys of course they'll go to court this thing will be
00:19:52.660i think rapidly work through this i think they say 20 000 illegal alien voters or foreign
00:19:59.440national not supposed to vote you're implying sir since you did the work of three volumes and
00:20:03.980you're a fiduciary you've been doing audits all over the planet you're saying that it there's a
00:20:10.500lot more than 20 000 maybe even millions is that what you're telling me sir well well i'm not even
00:20:16.620saying it's just not me it's chuck schumer chuck schumer said there's 25 million people that won't
00:20:21.980be able to vote if we pass the save act i mean what what's he saying he's saying he didn't say
00:20:27.820they're legitimate they're legal voters 25 million voters that's what he said he said it himself
00:20:33.860And if that's true, then I think the number in California is probably around four million and probably probably about one out of five.
00:20:42.100We did a study after the twenty twenty four election.
00:20:45.060We were able to get a hold of all the data on every single person who voted in the election in Orange County, six largest county in America.
00:20:53.700It's huge. Had about two million voters.
00:20:56.420and we determined that roughly around, based on a statistical analysis,
00:21:01.760but a very thorough statistical analysis, same thing we would do in audit.
00:21:06.480I've done them around the world where you don't have the resources, you have to sample.
00:21:12.020And we came up with a little less than 20% of the people that voted in Orange County
00:21:17.020were not legitimate voters based on the databases that we had.
00:21:21.680The state has better, the government has better information.
00:33:30.240And, you know, obviously that didn't go over real well with the American public and the citizens of Maricopa County.
00:33:37.420So another statement was issued that they were updating software in the tabulators.
00:33:45.960So that we knew wasn't true, because if you look at our tweet, we reference the adjudication area.
00:33:53.420And then they came back and said, no, they were just uploading files for duplication.
00:34:00.460And then we had another board of supervisors do a tour yesterday who did a demonstration and said, no, what they were doing is they were fixing a bug.
00:34:09.700The bottom line is what we have determined is the system they were accessing is a system called Novus, and it's a run-back system.
00:34:19.200RunVec owns the patent to the NOVA system, and it allows damaged ballots, UACAVA ballots, and ballots that can't be read by the tabulator to be scanned.
00:34:33.120And then this NOVA system digitally recreates the ballots so that the tabulator can read them.
00:34:41.060This is the system they were updating.
00:34:42.940They are claiming that there was a hash mark or a backslash in the program.
00:34:49.920And Runbeck admitted that they hadn't tested any of this system.
00:34:54.220So there's a lot to be concerned about here.
00:34:57.340Number one, the claim is that it is its own secure network and it's not connected to the tabulators or the EMS.
00:35:06.480I think there are still big questions about that.
00:37:27.020And again, Steve, it goes back to dealing with these third-party corporations that are handling outsourced work for the county where there is no accountability.
00:39:06.020And we're tired of looking away in Maricopa County.
00:39:08.780There has to be system logs that they can produce to show that these work orders were cleared, that the systems they are using are certified and tested.
00:39:19.680And until they produce that, the American people need to demand more.
00:39:23.300And I am really, really praying, Steve, that the DOJ does come into Maricopa County and take a closer look at this for sure.
00:39:31.240I just want to make sure before I let you go. Are you saying the local media, the TVs are reporting that Chris Mays, that's a beauty, has already contacted the FBI and the FBI has closed the case or her office has closed the case after contacting the FBI?
00:39:48.080So what they have reported is that Justin Heath, the county recorder, reported it to the FBI.
00:39:58.220The FBI went to Chris Mays' office in the county and looked at the case, and they have dismissed and closed the case after speaking to Mays' office.
00:40:10.720Okay, we'll make sure we get on top of that, because there's been a lot of...
00:40:14.520fbi where are our ballots in fulton county what's happening can we get a count what are we doing
00:40:20.820here they're government gangsters i think i've heard that before oh yeah that's right there was
00:40:25.420a best-selling book by a guy named cash patel and then a film by produced by the war room starring
00:40:33.060wait for it cash patel before his fbi director i don't know we'll figure it all out shelby you're
00:40:40.740on the case where do people go to continue to follow this because this is a long way from over
00:40:45.480and i think you're right dhs doj main justice u.s attorneys people got to get involved in here
00:40:51.520because folks are tired of hearing maricopa run back uh you know ballots ballot problem machine
00:40:57.720problems the people should be sick of it and you got to get to the bottom i think didn't run back
00:41:02.040it was like 2 000 extra they mailed 2 000 extra ballots somewhere the other day oops sorry not
00:41:08.520sorry i don't know how they they should have audited that contract they gotta get joe hoff
00:41:13.340out there and let audit it shelby where do people get your man absolutely so they can follow us on
00:41:18.760twitter at we the people a z one a that's our twitter twitter handle if they want to reach
00:41:26.920me directly they can email me at shelby r at w t p u s a a dot org
00:51:40.240go to the americafirstwarehouse.com slash events get the tickets now that is going to be we're
00:51:47.780going to work to try to live stream that on saturday night make sure you're there in person
00:51:52.120you will have absolutely a blast i mean laura lunga she's got a team of experts on wait for
00:51:57.420it voter integrity the state of elections all of that as you know she's a hammer the america
00:52:02.700first warehouse is the gathering spot for maga out on long island uh brother ballard takes us
00:52:09.760out. Jason Ballard. Incredible. May God bless America. What a piece of music and a video.
00:52:16.240We're going to turn to that. Ben Harner was next. We're back here at 10 a.m.
00:52:18.940Eastern time tomorrow morning. See you then.
00:52:39.760perfect day. We should weep for our country. Seek God on his behalf. We may not have made a golden
00:52:50.060calf, but our idols have been clear. And it ends here.
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