00:06:12.940This is why what's happening in France
00:06:14.600and what potentially is going to happen in Texas,
00:06:17.380unless you're successful, are inextricably linked.
00:06:21.080It's Monday, 19 October, in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:06:24.600We have shifted the flag down to Texas for the duration.
00:06:28.020And, of course, early voting, in-person early voting starts today in the great state of Texas.
00:06:33.880Over the weekend, you saw what did the BBC correspondent, mostly peaceful demonstrations, an opportunistic minority, as they try to cover it up.
00:06:45.360It looked like World War II in the fashion district of Milan and in Paris.
00:06:50.360And, of course, the torching of some of these amazing landmarks of Western civilization.
00:06:56.740that is what this election is about right there that you import a muslim jihadist marxist adam
00:07:05.160with marxists that are already there stir the pot and that's what you get trying to bring down
00:07:10.760the entire country and burn it down why macron and the political class it's like camp of the
00:07:17.540saints they just sit there and go oh my gosh we'll get some more pencils and erasers for the kids
00:07:23.500Yeah, the schools don't have enough resources.
00:07:29.280They became broke on, well, the socialized medicine, taking care of everybody's needs like Mamdani wants, but principally for paying for their own destruction by importing people that hate their culture and hate them.
00:09:47.620i just want to touch before i start talking about your your piece in the federalist about
00:09:53.380importing the revolution when you ran for congress five years ago and you put out the
00:09:58.980restrictionist uh our party line the restrictionist perspective on thing or angle of attack
00:10:04.880um just simply five years ago you that was considered pretty radical right people what
00:10:11.440do you what do you talk about right immigration's great we do all these fantastic things america's
00:10:16.880an idea, right? All of it. Talk to us about how you were greeted with your ideas that right now
00:10:24.740are central to the political discussion in the United States and about to become more central
00:10:29.920after these midterms, sir. That's 100% true. They will become more central. What I remind
00:10:36.200everybody, mass deportation is mainstream. The polls prove it. We're going to see moves towards
00:10:41.700major remigration across Western Europe. It's inevitable, it's necessary, and it's mainstream.
00:10:46.880Yes, Steve, when I would mention that back then, right, it was at the very beginning of understanding that what Joe Biden was not doing was opening the border, but what that Joe Biden was doing was facilitating mass importation at scale.
00:10:58.480And so what I found is when I when I would call that out, if you were somebody in the room who was wearing work pants or jeans and maybe boots, you would not along with what I was saying.
00:11:08.940And if you were the Navy blazer in the khaki pants, you were usually pretty scandalized by what I was saying.
00:11:13.940So that's about how it was breaking down then, and it's still a little bit how it breaks down these days.
00:11:18.900Talk to me about, by the way, the term remigration, just to find it because we're very big on getting nomenclature right here at the war room
00:11:26.140and making sure people get these ideas and they can think through these ideas and then embrace them.
00:11:32.180When you use this term remigration, what does that mean?
00:11:36.400So the way that we think about mass deportation, right, I use remigration interchangeably, but it's a little bit broader of a term.
00:11:43.020So the experiment that Angela Merkel and Barack Obama and the NGOs and globalist nonprofits have engaged in, they kicked it off and it's been continued across Western Europe and in the United States, was a period of mass migration.
00:12:00.260And so it wasn't just people coming illegally across the border.
00:12:03.580This was a deliberate, facilitated, state-led network of nonprofits bringing people into the country.
00:12:12.760It is not just about the officers grabbing folks and physically deporting them.
00:12:19.920It will be about a civic effort, people signing up to go home, not just in terms of the Project Homecoming that we had, but a much more broad civic effort.
00:12:29.060Right now, Steve, there are, I think, hoping to be stood up in five EU countries are working to build remigration centers in different parts of the world.
00:12:39.040So what I call re-migration is the broader civic effort of which mass deportation is a part.
00:12:45.720When you use the term restrictionist, when you say, hey, I'm part of the restrictionist movement, I'm a restrictionist, define for the audience, because I think you've got a lot of restrictionists watching you this morning.
00:13:01.100Yeah, it is to say both that, right, immigration is a important thing in the history of our country. It is part of who we are as Americans. And when we decide as a sovereign nation to limit it, we can. We recognize that this is the time and place in our history for that to happen.
00:13:19.580And so when I say restrictionist, it is about being an immigration restriction.
00:13:23.000It's not just stopping the scourge of illegal immigration, but in pausing legal immigration entirely.
00:13:31.440All these phony visa plans and programs, these student visas, the optional work visas on the H-1Bs, H-1As, all of them have to be reviewed.
00:13:43.840And I believe 99% of them have got to be junked, at least for a 10-year period.
00:13:47.400Anyway, Jason, hang on. We're going to take a short break here.
00:13:50.560Jason Kilmeier is going to join us. We're going to keep him with us on the other side.
00:19:12.560Elon Musk now says he's going to give a share of his company,
00:19:16.920I think Starlink, to every kid in America.
00:19:18.880Hello. No, we're gonna give a lot more on that shares to American citizens, not to the US
00:19:23.780government. More about that this week. Jason Kilmeier, let's talk first about your Federalist.
00:19:30.740Let's do the reset there about what you argued in the Federalist about importing a revolution.
00:19:36.300Is this what we're seeing in France and Italy and all of Europe is what this weekend and you had
00:19:41.320Macron give all the happy talk? It's mostly peaceful. We need some more whiteboards
00:19:47.700and erasers and markers for French schools, and that'll take care of it, sir?
00:19:53.260Yeah, it was him calling for committees and different things, you know, misses the point.
00:19:59.680And what is that? The violence is the point. And we're seeing the beginning of that play out there.
00:20:05.100We used to remark upon the slow suicide of Europe, and now the question is, is it not that slow?
00:20:13.580When we recognize that the goal of the individuals who are in favor of mass migration at the scale that we've seen, the historic scale that we've seen both in Western Europe and the United States, when we hear what they call for, it is explicitly the abolition of national sovereignty.
00:20:34.240It is explicitly the abolition of borders.
00:20:37.080It is explicitly the abolition of national identity.
00:20:39.900And so this is the inevitable both consequence of this, but this is the carrying force.
00:20:46.960The people that, you know, the Paul Ryan school thought that America is an idea and they accuse us of being the blood and soil wing of the conservative movement or the Republican Party.
00:20:57.560It's actually about America is a sovereign nation with a border, a culture, a civilization and a people called American citizens.
00:21:06.080Do you still think that there's any argument to this America is an idea and we just open the borders?
00:21:12.640Because the people on the other side now don't argue that at all.
00:21:15.720They are pretty open, whether it's Omar Abdul or James Talafrico or AOC was up in Minnesota this week campaigning for the AOC-Abdul ticket in 2028.
00:22:47.680You actually have, being a chief of staff over at various of the major functions of DHS,
00:22:53.140you actually have a practical idea on mass deportations.
00:22:56.400Mike Howe and Mike will be up in the evening show. Mike Howe gave tremendous remarks Saturday at the Young Republicans of Texas.
00:23:04.380But then you follow on. You've got a very practical plan on how we actually execute this mass deportation and get people involved.
00:23:11.800Can you walk us through your idea, your plan?
00:23:14.600Yeah. And essentially what I'm pitching, Steve, is that what DHS has pulled off in two years, right,
00:23:20.900in terms of the mobilization of ICE as an agency is something we've seen very few examples of
00:23:27.820across our government in decades, right? Hiring close to 10,000 people, deploying at the scale
00:23:32.920they did. The threats that both ICE officers face and their families face on social media and many
00:23:39.160other things that are not reported, you know, in the newspapers and on TV. And my argument is that
00:23:45.240What we now need is to transition to a legitimate whole-of-government effort, and that whole-of-government effort will also require much more of the American people.
00:23:55.380And the form that that will take, the way that that will look, is in what I'm calling a civilian deportation corps,
00:24:01.920people who are willing to go door-to-door, to sit at post offices, to go to the 630 or so commercial weigh stations around our country,
00:24:09.760to engage in helping with transportation and logistics and extra shifts for nurses.
00:24:16.740We stand up a whole of country infrastructure and we ask the American people to participate in this effort with us
00:24:24.620instead of seeing them as a far off political audience to abide.
00:24:29.800The reason I think this got so much traction the other day at this convention of these young Texas firebrands
00:24:36.740brands is that this not just sounds like a practical and pragmatic way to do it.
00:24:42.840You also kind of understand the scale of what has to happen.
00:24:47.540This can't be just a whole of government.
00:24:52.200If we're going to do this, everybody has to come together to do this, correct?
00:24:56.600Because the 22 million let in under Biden is such an overwhelming number that you have
00:25:02.380to really think through not just the logistics that they've now gotten the money for and like
00:25:06.700you said, this Herculean effort to build this infrastructure. Now you have to man it and you
00:25:12.120just can't man it by hiring ICE agents. It has to be a whole of society effort on this. Is that
00:25:17.840your pitch? Yeah. And that's exactly the right way to frame it, which is whole of society. So
00:25:24.320think about what we saw for years under Biden. I mean, I remember there were illegal aliens
00:25:30.060sleeping on the linoleum floor of Logan Airport. We would see people escorted by us in line at
00:25:37.080other airports by that nonprofit member wearing a vest. By the way, that money all flowed from
00:25:42.060the federal government. The Biden administration turned the Floyd Bennett airfield in New York
00:25:48.020City or just outside of New York City. I think they had at one point 2000 illegal aliens camped
00:25:52.780out there. So what we saw is that they utilized all of the societal levers at their disposal.
00:25:57.600And what we need to do is recognize that putting law and order back in place, reestablishing law and order after what we saw in the Biden years will itself be a significant and at times painful national mobilization.
00:26:13.080But what our opponents did was so extreme, it is now required of us.
00:26:17.240And so when we talk to a group like the Young Republicans, what we say is, you guys are involved. You guys are the future. And what your future requires of you may at times be very uncomfortable. You might have to help drive a truck, drive illegal aliens in a van to the next airfield, to help man these different civilian functions. And all of these things will seem outrageous to people. And then within a few weeks or months of operation, they will seem very ordinary.
00:26:44.120Jason Kilmeyer, where do people go to get your content, both social media, website, everything you're working on?
00:26:51.760Because the remarks, I think you got a lot of people's attention on Saturday, but the seriousness of the situation, not simply we've imported a revolution, but what needs to take place to make sure we export it and export it with all deliberate speed.
00:30:20.460Someone's been on the show many times, Joanne Fleming from Grassroots America.
00:30:25.480Joanne, in Texas, walk us through what the stakes are down here, ma'am.
00:30:30.100This is more than just running because the socialists want to have higher marginal tax rates and the Republicans want to have lower marginal tax rates.
00:30:38.540What's at stake in the crown jewel of the union, the great state of Texas, ma'am?
00:30:43.180Well, Steve, it's whether we keep the United States of America and go forward with the America 250 that we're proud of, and if we lose the Western world.
00:31:00.920We already see what's happening in Europe, and Texas is the crown jewel, as you said.
00:31:06.920It's important for us to understand that no matter how frustrated we may be with Republicans that don't quite keep all their campaign promises, you have to forget about that because we have got to turn out every single Republican we can to vote and conservative independents to vote.
00:31:30.820We cannot sit this out because the Democrats already outvoted Republicans in the primary.
00:31:37.220And if they bring that same set back and we bring our same set back who voted in the primary, we lose.
00:31:59.180So anybody that's mad, feeling all rumpy and not feeling the love for some of our Republican candidates, look, you know, I'm not in love with all of them either.
00:32:13.720What how practically can walk through because we're going to have a number of grassroots leaders on, particularly a lot of pastors.
00:32:19.640We're going to have on someone on the afternoon show because I think a lot of the pastors are finally getting engaged.
00:32:25.560Some have been very engaged for a while, but some are new to this and coming to the understanding that what's happening in Europe could happen here tomorrow because we've got 22 million illegal aliens under Biden's watch.
00:32:37.580And we have not really started the process of mass deportations, which we must start.
00:32:43.300So walk me through from a practical perspective.
00:32:47.080You're looked at as one of the heads of grassroots organizations in Texas.
00:32:49.980What is the practical way, and particularly how do we get people to contact you, et cetera?
00:32:56.160So walk me through the practicality, how we make sure we get not just all the MAGA base, but also those low propensity voters that don't vote in primaries but are still – and some of them are very upset, but at the end of the day, they're on our side of the football, ma'am.
00:33:12.100Well, it's personal relationships, Steve.
00:33:15.360We tell people all the time, you don't need to have a lot of money to do this.
00:33:19.740Everybody has a circle of influence. And so we're telling people, you've got two weeks of early
00:33:26.120voting. Your job is to go find 10 people that you are going to persuade to vote and you're going to
00:33:33.140make sure they vote. And when you get that 10, you go get another 10 because personal relationships
00:33:40.460matter. People are more willing to go vote because someone they trust and admire are asking
00:33:49.320them to vote. And look, it's easy to put these two visions in front of people. It is either the
00:33:55.540vision of freedom and America 250 that we just celebrated, or it is the flip of that. It is
00:34:02.660what's going on in Europe. It is opening up our borders again. We're already occupied. As you said
00:34:11.200earlier, we haven't had the mass deportations. We already have the enemies here. We cannot allow
00:34:18.160the enemy to have the reins of government in texas because for all the people who are upset
00:34:23.780and frustrated about property taxes you let a democrat take the governor's seat forget about
00:34:29.860property tax reform and protecting children that's over too there's a commercial there's
00:34:37.760a commercial plane that i've seen non-stop over the weekend about talafrico and transgender and
00:34:42.940accusing parents and putting parents in jeopardy do people do you think people fully understand
00:34:47.800right now, particularly those that are saying, hey, look, I don't see the action out of the
00:34:53.380Trump administration or Abbott or any of them, and so I'm just going to stay home. Can you just
00:34:57.680highlight for people what Tala Frico as a senator from Texas would mean, ma'am?
00:35:03.740He is such a radical. And not only that, a win in that Senate seat is going to bring even more
00:35:12.760money. We're expecting over $500 million to be spent by the Democrats in this election. If he
00:35:20.220wins, we will drown in money from the Democrats from the hard left. And they are going to be in
00:35:27.820the streets just like they are in France. People need to understand that every seat up down the
00:35:35.600ballot from the top to the bottom, you need to go vote for the Republican because they can wreak
00:35:42.680all sorts of chaos in your local government. You just think about your schools. If you have a sane
00:35:48.420school board and they're replaced with a bunch of radicals, guess what? You're going to have a lot
00:35:53.980of headaches in your school. And you can forget about the gains that we've made down at the State
00:35:59.180Board of Education with getting the curriculum back to America 250 values. And look, the battle
00:36:06.460over fighting sharia in texas you talk about a crown jewel they have already told us that they
00:36:12.600want to take texas we must have republicans in office to be able to do this friends it is about
00:36:20.560losing the united states of america we cannot have another republican president after president
00:36:27.140trump if we lose texas we just cannot do it so whatever you are whatever frustration you have
00:36:35.100You have to put that aside and you have to go out and you have to vote for American liberty, the kind of liberty that our founding fathers gave us, the kind of liberty that the Texas freedom fighters fought and died for to give us the Republic of Texas.
00:36:56.540Look, there's no one that's more frustrated and has worked, well, about 30 years to try to get Republicans to be limited government Republicans.
00:37:05.860But I'm telling you this, even the ones that I just don't like, I am going to go vote for every single Republican because I love Texas more.
00:37:16.840And I'm asking people today to please love Texas more than you can't stand politics today.
00:37:25.220I get it and I know that our grassroots leaders are tired but if you'll go to our website we've
00:37:32.300already had a lot of requests for this we've got two visions or on one ballot it's on the home
00:37:37.820home page it will give you the list of practical differences between the America 250 vision and
00:37:45.420that of the hard left the socialist the communist and the unconstitutional and inhumane sharia
00:37:52.400pushers that is the contrast here we've got it ready for you you don't have to you don't have
00:37:59.440to pay anything you don't have to be a member it won't cost you anything to print this out
00:38:03.800print a ton of them out and go get hand them out to people and get them to vote persuade them
00:38:09.900listen to people don't just do a drive-by text you've got to go get in front of people go up
00:38:16.780and down your neighborhood streets visit with people listen to them ask them if they plan to
00:38:23.420vote and if they say no you got to stand there and try to persuade them and you got to get 10
00:38:29.380and the next week you get 10 more that is how we save texas it's not going to cost you a lot of
00:38:35.760money it's going to take you some time and you need to pray and ask god for mercy that we hold
00:38:41.660the Republic of Texas. Joanne, where do people go for this in your social media? Where do they go
00:38:47.080to get that list right now and everything on your site? It's grassrootsamerica, g-a-w-t-p.com. You
00:38:54.580got it up right there. And right there where you see the 2026 general election, if you click on
00:39:00.620that graphic, it's going to bring you to the two visions that are on the ballot. The contrast
00:39:06.420couldn't be clearer it's you got the tools you just got to go out and sell america 250 and saving
00:39:14.920texas we've got to do this guys we got to do it you got to get up off the couch get your head out
00:39:22.480of your phone get it out of social media and go talk to people and get them to the polls hey take
00:39:29.260them to the polls to vote and then go i don't know bomb an ice cream come i don't know but just do
00:39:34.880something to have that human connection. That is what it's going to say. Or a drink. Or a drink,
00:39:41.820Steve. Anyway, it will get people to vote. You've got to have that human connection now. That's
00:39:49.260what people need. You use a term I haven't heard in a long time. Visit with folks. Get your list
00:39:54.920of 10. Go visit with folks. Go to poll. Joanne, your message resonates throughout the entire
00:40:00.820country, not simply Texas, but Texas, obviously, early voting starts today. Ma'am, thank you so
00:40:04.740much for firing us up here on our first Monday back in Texas. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you.
00:40:13.060Got Ben Harnwell. I think I finally tracked down Ben Harnwell by phone. Ben, as you warned,
00:40:19.460as you have warned for years, Italy is not, Italy is not, does not escape this. Oh, we got Ben with
00:40:26.660Ben with his background. Thank you, sir. Ben Harnwell, give me a couple of minutes. I know
00:40:31.320you've got a bulk. Give me a couple of minutes on what is coming to America that you saw in France
00:40:36.520and Italy over the weekend. France, Italy, Portugal, Belgium, the list goes on and on,
00:40:44.540Steve. This is really, I would suggest, since I've been on this show, literally in October,
00:40:49.800I've done five years on the show. This is the story, I think, that I've been here waiting for.
00:40:55.280Now, it doesn't mean I want to impose my interpretation on top of the events, but it does mean that everything that we've been warning around about the level of anger that is bubbling up across the West, not just in continental Europe, against out-of-touch remote government that is ignoring the needs of the people is what we can see here.
00:41:15.300And that anger is manifesting itself in different ways from country to country.
00:41:19.760now here's what i want to say because i've been watching this over the weekend i've been looking
00:41:24.200at the other commentators i think a point is being missed here right this is but now i know a lot i've
00:41:30.240seen this the engagement on twitter i know people are saying these are all race rights and all the
00:41:35.500rest of it and it's all down to immigration that is a part of it but it is not the root cause
00:41:40.780what we are seeing here the reason there are elements of that is because society is starting
00:41:45.720to break down the fabric of society starting to break down at the stress points and this is one
00:41:52.360of the stress points okay but fundamentally people are broke they are broke and they are overtaxed
00:41:59.140now when people on fox and this is what i i'm saying i think people are misunderstanding what's
00:42:04.120happening here in continental europe when people commentators on fox news are saying oh this these
00:42:08.760are race rights immigration this can come to europe i would want i want to make the correction
00:42:13.480what this could come to america what i want to say is what can come to america is the same level
00:42:19.780of disturbance arising out of the anger that people are feeling again these are to do with
00:42:26.460this is fundamentally a cost of living crisis i close steve i know we have an ad break but let
00:42:32.020me hand over with this fact which i came up and came across over the weekend if i were to say to
00:42:37.200you see how much do you think washington says all the income tax it collects how much of every
00:42:44.200dollar in income tax that washington takes goes to paying off the 40 trillion national debt i'm
00:42:51.080going to tell you it's 43 cents steve of every dollar that you and every american is paying in
00:42:57.460tax is going to service the national debt not to pay it off simply to service the interest right
00:43:05.640If interest rates rise, that is going to rise as well, and people can't afford it.
00:43:10.480And when that anger bubbles over, right, this is the anger.
00:45:35.000They kicked that can down for over a year.
00:45:37.460It's really brought Le Pen back into being competitive here and maybe even take the next presidential election.
00:45:43.540You add that with open borders and all this migration, it's a volatile mix.
00:45:48.400Walk me through how that mix builds on itself, because once you get people in there saying, hey, the cost of living is too much.
00:45:55.160I can't afford anything. The government's supposed to give me so much, but they can't do it anymore.
00:45:59.940Macron's talking about cuts, not talking about any money because he can't.
00:46:03.200They're essentially broke with a massive budget deficit that's already brought down, I think, a couple of prime ministers underneath him.
00:46:09.600Walk through how the convergence of this is so combustible.
00:46:13.140And that is my fear for the United States because we've got the same thing, although we can continue to print money.
00:46:18.640But that day is going to come to an end, I think, relatively shortly, sir.
00:46:23.380Much paper of these protests, Steve, is the popular anger, the anger that exists within the people.
00:46:30.940That is why, because these protests have been going on for like a month now.
00:46:36.140We've started to see on the Western media over the last couple of weeks, but it's actually been bubbling on.
00:46:41.260It started off as education protests and was being pushed by the far left, not radicals, just the far left political forces, the front unbowed of Melanchon, who's going to come second to Le Pen, presumably in the first round in April of next year.
00:46:59.580It has already metastasized from being an education and an education funding protest, Steve. It's already metastasized into being a general protest against the cost of living. And that is on that basis, you're seeing copycat protests around the European Union.
00:47:19.900So the metastasization is there. And the thing that I come back to this, these protests would not be growing, Steve, if they didn't have a latent popular anger of people that have been ignored for too long.
00:47:34.620That's why they're growing. And you're quite right to say that into this mix, this combustible mix, you have different elements.
00:47:41.940So you have the original protesters, right? They're the ones who are still organizing the speeches at the rallies, which are now on education and on cost of living, right? You see the Palestinian flags being waved amongst the protesters, but they're not there speaking at the events. But they are adding into it. They're pouring into this as a small river pours into a large river.
00:48:07.560Another thing you see coming into this are the invaders, right?
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