Bannon's War Room - November 05, 2026


Episode 5786： Stopping Texas From Becoming A Sanctuary State

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00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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00:00:12.000 at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:18.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:20.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:21.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:22.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:25.000 Mega Media.
00:00:27.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:32.760 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:36.480 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:42.880 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:46.060 it's thursday five november in the year of our lord 2026 uh morning morning mo thank you for
00:00:59.040 being here today mo most here for more than the reads going to be more than the reads which is
00:01:03.500 reading the cash register um all of our great uh sponsors and real america's voice i want to um
00:01:10.240 so the first hour today we're going to deal with emergency problem and that is the state of texas
00:01:15.140 and the state of Texas becoming a sanctuary state.
00:01:21.000 Jordan Boyd from The Federalist is going to join me,
00:01:23.900 and Todd Bensman are up, and they're going to come in.
00:01:26.480 We've got a lot to go through, including what happened in Texas, all of it.
00:01:29.700 So we're going to take the first hour and drill down on this
00:01:31.520 because people should understand that Texas is the signal.
00:01:35.880 There's a lot of noise out there. Texas is the signal.
00:01:39.080 And we've got to get to the bottom of that
00:01:41.680 and immediately work on the turnaround there
00:01:44.300 because if you don't turn around Texas, you're not going to have a country.
00:01:47.380 Brian Harrison joins us.
00:01:48.940 Brian, I hate to say for a lot of the folks down the Carl Rose of the world,
00:01:57.240 and Jordan Boyd, who's a native of Lubbock, Texas, she's going to join us.
00:02:02.600 She's done the analysis about how the political class down there sold out their voters.
00:02:07.020 But you have been hammering that for years on this very show.
00:02:10.060 I want to quickly just give a because I know you've got a bolt here in halfway through this through this first hour.
00:02:19.080 I want to your assessment of what happened the other day.
00:02:23.420 And and then I want to talk about this tweet that you put up that's gone mega viral about the action that needs to be taken by Abbott, Governor Abbott and his team today, sir.
00:02:34.420 Yeah, absolutely. Great to be with you. And look, there's no way to sugarcoat what happened on Tuesday.
00:02:39.280 It was an absolute bloodbath for Republicans broadly.
00:02:43.620 But look, I think it was especially more so than the Democrats winning.
00:02:48.040 I actually think this was a stunning rebuke of the establishment so-called Republican class
00:02:54.560 that has controlled the Austin Uniparty for far too long.
00:02:58.420 I mean, I think that's much more what happened.
00:02:59.920 It's not that the Democrat candidates were that much better.
00:03:02.240 I know all of them. I serve all of them. They're not compelling.
00:03:04.440 You know, it's not like the message of socialism was that much more attractive to Texans.
00:03:09.900 That's not what happened.
00:03:10.800 A lot of Republican voters, and I think the data is bearing this out, they simply stayed home.
00:03:14.960 And look, I heard this firsthand as I traveled all around the state of Texas.
00:03:18.600 People would ask me all the time, you know, Brian, what's the point of even voting Republican anymore
00:03:23.100 if these fake Republicans that we elect just empower the Democrats,
00:03:27.060 let them control the Texas House of Representatives,
00:03:29.400 pretend to care about things that matter to us, like affordability,
00:03:32.380 like property taxes are being taxed out of our homes,
00:03:34.920 every two years, every four years,
00:03:36.460 they say they're going to cut property taxes
00:03:38.680 or eliminate property taxes,
00:03:39.860 but every year they go up.
00:03:41.540 Brian, what's the point?
00:03:43.180 And to those Republicans that stayed home or sat it out,
00:03:45.440 I get it.
00:03:47.040 I hear you, and I understand that.
00:03:48.720 And I think here's something the Texas Republicans
00:03:50.940 got to deal with and got to cope with and got to address.
00:03:53.540 This was as much about the failure
00:03:55.880 of so-called Republican leadership in the state of Texas
00:03:59.020 than it was about any blue tsunami.
00:04:00.880 There's a lot of factors, no doubt, national factors as well.
00:04:03.740 But what we can talk about in Texas are the ones we can control.
00:04:06.700 And I tweeted this two months ago.
00:04:08.460 Imagine if we had cut property taxes 40% and started eliminating property taxes last session like we pretended to.
00:04:14.740 There would have been a conga line to reelect every Republican in the state of Texas.
00:04:19.300 So I think there's a lot of lessons learned that the establishment in the state of Texas needs to learn.
00:04:26.220 I don't know that they will.
00:04:27.540 If history is in a guide, it's not terribly likely.
00:04:30.000 but the people of texas are not blue but the reality is the government of the state of texas
00:04:36.220 has been either blue or purple for the entirety of the four or five years that i've been there in
00:04:40.580 fact i tweeted out the other day you know okay well as an actual conservative i guess i'm going
00:04:44.880 to be in the minority in the texas house next session just like i was last session okay so
00:04:49.420 in some ways not as much is changing in the texas government a lot's going to change no doubt
00:04:53.820 but in many ways the texas government was already purple and i think this was really just a stunning
00:04:58.700 rebuke to the establishment class for repeatedly failing their voters over. And people, our
00:05:03.940 governor, lieutenant governor, they were asking voters to give them 16 years in office. And what
00:05:09.800 was their record? You and I talked about this before, Steve. Greg Abbott, Greg Abbott, the
00:05:12.960 supposed Republican leader of our state, he had 100% name ID at the start of this. He spent over
00:05:18.400 $100 million against a socialist with no name ID and no money. Okay, she didn't beat him. He lost.
00:05:26.800 And so two things can be true at the same time. I'm very unhappy that Gina Hinojosa is going to be the governor of the state of Texas. 0.98
00:05:33.200 But you know what? It's long past time that Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick move on.
00:05:39.680 We're going to have you back on. We'll drill down more on this topic. Jordan will pick it up.
00:05:43.520 But I got to go to this Texas as a sanctuary state, because that is what is right in front of us.
00:05:51.200 and Todd Benzman is going to come on, as he did yesterday,
00:05:53.620 and talk more in detail about why that could be a reality.
00:05:57.160 You've actually got a solution for that,
00:05:59.240 or the beginning of a solution for that,
00:06:01.060 and it's blowing up all over the Internet.
00:06:03.340 Talk about the logic of your tweet.
00:06:05.540 What is it? What do you say?
00:06:07.200 Why is it important we do it?
00:06:09.040 Well, to remind the governor,
00:06:10.580 and I put a letter to Governor Abbott yesterday reminding him,
00:06:13.300 hey, Governor, yeah, the Democrats won on Tuesday,
00:06:16.580 but they weren't sworn in on Tuesday.
00:06:18.980 The inauguration is not for 10 more weeks,
00:06:20.920 So guess what, Greg Abbott?
00:06:22.640 You're still the governor of Texas.
00:06:23.820 You still have the power to, on your way out, do some good and historic things for the people of Texas.
00:06:31.820 Do the right thing.
00:06:32.900 Even in hindsight of defeat here, call us back for a special session.
00:06:37.140 Let's protect the separation of powers in the Constitution.
00:06:40.520 And something I've been calling for for years.
00:06:41.560 no governor of either party should have total unchecked executive power to govern by executive
00:06:49.220 fiat or by edict. I mean, and this isn't just academic. Gina Hinojosa has said she's going to
00:06:54.240 use the governor's emergency powers on the first day she's elected in office. And people forget 0.97
00:06:59.000 that in Texas, many people are shocked to learn that in the state of Texas, the governor, anytime
00:07:03.640 there's an emergency and it's the governor who decides when there's an emergency, has all the
00:07:08.200 powers of a dictator. A governor of the state of Texas can write any law, they can edit any law,
00:07:12.560 they can ignore, they can effectively delete laws, including border security laws, including
00:07:19.000 pro-life laws, okay, including laws to protect our oil and gas industry here in the state of Texas,
00:07:25.680 all right, including our laws to keep violent, repeat criminals from ending up on the streets. 1.00
00:07:31.200 Gina Hinojosa will have the power to waive or edit almost all of those laws, and if we don't 1.00
00:07:35.940 do something to stop that and protect separation of powers over the next 10 weeks, there won't be 1.00
00:07:40.440 a thing the legislature could do about it. Because even if she wants to do something, even if somehow
00:07:44.920 the House and Senate passed a bill to stop her, guess what? She's got the veto authority. So the 0.99
00:07:50.140 Texas legislature, the governor of the state of Texas, the lieutenant governor, and the Texas
00:07:54.260 House and Senate, we have got still the constitutional prerogative and responsibility
00:08:00.140 to govern for the next 10 weeks. And we have got to do the right thing and protect separation of
00:08:05.220 powers and make sure that Gina Hinoosa does not impact all of the power of a dictator. And quite 0.97
00:08:10.520 frankly, I need to make this point too. This isn't a new thing for me. I filed this exact piece of
00:08:15.300 legislation exactly four years ago when a guy named Greg Abbott was just reelected because no
00:08:20.240 governor of either party should have these powers. But the mainstream media doesn't want to pay that
00:08:24.940 heart of attention. They want to make this some point of hypocrisy that I was happy for Abbott
00:08:29.940 to have these powers, but now that the Democrats win, I want to strip the Democrats of these powers.
00:08:33.520 No, I've been fighting for this for years, but with the Democrats now inheriting the governor's mansion, it is more imperative than ever.
00:08:41.600 And I'm sorry, as far as I'm concerned, any delay is nothing more than acquiescence to the leftists who wants to destroy freedom in the state of Texas.
00:08:51.300 Brian, also in his use of it, I mean, when he actually used this, when Abbott used it, like on the border security, it became totally performative.
00:09:00.300 Now, there are some assets down there. We're going to get Todd Benzman.
00:09:03.520 but the radical Democrat that's coming in, I mean, her plan, I think, is to turn Texas into 0.99
00:09:10.220 a sanctuary state immediately, sir. Well, and if we do not repeal, I mean, I cannot,
00:09:15.980 this isn't hyperbole. This isn't rhetoric. This isn't exaggerative, you know, speech or whatever.
00:09:22.460 This is true. And the governor of the state of Texas needs to hear me. He has not responded to
00:09:27.460 my letter, but listen to me. If we do not act, Governor Gina Hinojosa will have all the power
00:09:34.260 she needs to undo effectively every single border security law, okay, that we have here in the state
00:09:41.100 of Texas and make it very easy for not just our state as a whole, but liberal, you know, blue 1.00
00:09:47.840 cities within our state to, with impunity, pursue sanctuary city policies within our borders. We
00:09:55.440 have got to take away gina hinojosa's unchecked executive emergency because think about this all 0.91
00:10:01.960 she would have to do is say you know what i'm going to declare an emergency you know you say
00:10:05.120 the border is a problem i agree i'm going to declare an emergency for the border but what 0.97
00:10:08.380 am i going to do with it this is gina hinojosa talking she's going to strike down by fiat by
00:10:13.420 executive action all of the the actual things that we did we didn't do enough on border security in
00:10:18.020 our legislation but we did some things nothing would stop her from undoing it nothing uh all
00:10:22.540 of our pro-life laws. No, our laws to protect the oil and gas industry. She could undo those. She 0.99
00:10:27.660 could waive them by executive fiat. But Republicans, Greg Abbott, Dan Patrick, the leadership of the
00:10:33.100 House and Senate, we have 10 weeks where we could stop her. Quite frankly, it's outrageous that this
00:10:37.460 wasn't ended many, many years ago. And people forget, we've seen this happen during COVID
00:10:42.060 under Greg Abbott. People went to jail in Texas, in COVID, for violating laws that no member of
00:10:48.140 legislature ever voted on. We cannot give Gina Hinojosa and the radical Democrats that kind of
00:10:55.300 power. We have 10 weeks to stop it. It's imperative that we act and we need to act now.
00:11:00.100 To some of your critics, particularly on the left, I just want to reemphasize or have you
00:11:03.780 reemphasize at one point. This is Brian Harrison, just didn't think this up the other day and write
00:11:07.980 this letter. You, when Greg Abbott won his third term, walk me through it. You came out as a,
00:11:14.460 It's one of the reasons we said, whoa, this guy used to be in the Trump administration.
00:11:19.180 He's on fire because he's going after the political class of the Republican Party, the Bush political order down there.
00:11:26.940 Walk me through what you did four years ago on this very topic.
00:11:30.420 Now, it's hilarious.
00:11:31.320 I mean, CNN personality and Keith Olbermann.
00:11:33.680 I mean, my demands here was effectively my demands to adhere to the Constitution.
00:11:40.300 Last I checked, we all took an oath of the Constitution.
00:11:42.360 Well, the Constitution requires separation of powers.
00:11:45.320 But my post that we do this has made low IQ leftists all across the country absolutely apoplectic because they're trying to lie to people and say, oh, this is some point of hypocrisy.
00:11:58.500 The Democrats win and, you know, Brian wants to take away the power that he's enjoyed. 0.79
00:12:02.400 This is nonsense.
00:12:03.620 I didn't have CNN attacking me.
00:12:05.820 I didn't have Keith Olbermann attacking me.
00:12:07.560 I didn't have editor of The Atlantic.
00:12:09.000 I didn't have all the mainstream media outlets attacking me when I made the exact same demands
00:12:14.580 exactly four years ago when a guy named Greg Abbott was reelected to the governor's position
00:12:20.420 in the state of Texas. I have been 100% consistent on this. The only people, they're trying to say
00:12:25.780 I'm a hypocrite. Let me be super clear. The only people who are hypocritical on this are the 0.95
00:12:30.320 mainstream media, but we're about to find out somebody else who might be a total hypocrite on 0.95
00:12:34.640 this, and that's somebody who was my colleague in the Texas House, still is, but a couple years ago
00:12:40.080 told me repeatedly she wanted to work with me to rein in governor's executive powers. You know who
00:12:45.960 that was? Representative Gina Hinojosa. I was looking through text messages with her from years
00:12:51.660 ago on this exact topic. You know who else committed to me to want to work to rein in
00:12:55.520 governor's executive unchecked powers? Democrat Attorney General-elect Nathan Johnson. So we're
00:13:02.020 about to find out who the real hypocrites are. Was it me who wanted to limit the powers of
00:13:06.540 Republican governors, you know, and Democrat governors? Or is it Democrat politicians like
00:13:12.180 Gina Hinojosa and our Democrat Attorney General, Nathan Johnson, who for years screamed bloody
00:13:17.420 murder when Greg Abbott used his executive authorities? By the way, sometimes they were
00:13:21.620 right. Greg Abbott did use these authorities in ways that I think were unconstitutional.
00:13:26.640 But are they going to be consistent now that they've got the reins of power in Texas?
00:13:29.840 or are they going to be proven as hypocrites for opposing the legislation that I've been carrying and pushing for for years
00:13:37.580 that they have for years told me they want to support and pass into law in the state of Texas?
00:13:43.760 But the absolute apoplectic response by the mainstream media is hilarious to me.
00:13:50.340 Mo, Grace, Elizabeth, let's push this letter out hard.
00:13:53.440 It's caused a firestorm or controversy, as Brian Harrison is wont to do.
00:13:57.580 So, Brian, where do people go to your Twitter feed, your show you put up all over the way?
00:14:02.560 If you're watching, you can make a difference.
00:14:04.160 We have successfully forced Greg Abbott to have special sessions before.
00:14:07.500 Go to my Twitter feed right now.
00:14:08.840 There's a pinned tweet at the top, at Brian E. Harrison on X, at Brian E. Harrison on X.
00:14:13.540 Sign the petition at the top of at Brian E. Harrison on X.
00:14:16.640 Tell the governor he's still the governor, and he's got the power to do the right thing before we leave office here,
00:14:21.140 before he leaves office in two weeks.
00:14:23.300 Let's get this petition signed.
00:14:24.780 And Brian Harrison, thank you for starting off the War Room on 5 November in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:14:30.180 Talk to you after the show, brother.
00:14:31.740 Always great to be here. God bless you all and God bless Texas.
00:14:34.540 Godspeed.
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00:16:16.840 About ICE, because clearly listening to voters as they came out of the polls the other night,
00:16:21.080 this was a really important issue. Three quarters of voters said that this was critical,
00:16:25.760 that the conduct of ICE and the deportation regime of this administration influenced their
00:16:31.460 vote. How are you managing that here in New York City? Because for the most part, while they're
00:16:35.980 here. We haven't seen those ugly scenes in the streets of New York City. What's the balance
00:16:40.640 you've struck with ICE, with the NYPD, with this administration around that? Well, I think it
00:16:45.600 continues to be a tension with federal policy because we've made clear to them that we are
00:16:50.100 never going to assist them in civil immigration enforcement. We are not going to be a part of a
00:16:55.100 deportation agenda in the way that they've built this administration. And what that means is we
00:17:00.060 don't allow city property. We don't allow city agencies to be used in that fashion. We have
00:17:04.360 executive orders we've put forward to that end. And we were also letting businesses know who own
00:17:09.160 parking lots that we want them to stop letting those parking lots be the site of where ICE
00:17:13.780 is staging their locations and staging their enforcement. Because again, what we're talking
00:17:18.700 about is a federal agency that is willing to open fire on a moving car in broad daylight right after
00:17:25.260 school's let out. They're willing to shoot at somebody despite the fact that there's a five-year-old
00:17:30.440 child in that same car. And what you're seeing from Americans across the country is that the
00:17:35.360 very politics we were told could only succeed in New York City is actually succeeding from
00:17:40.700 Astoria to Albuquerque to Allentown across this country. And what we're seeing is that
00:17:47.160 working class Americans are tired of a corruption of their politics and a corruption of their 0.98
00:17:52.440 prices. So you were talking about that shooting in the Bronx. At that moment, you called for
00:17:56.840 President Trump to cease ICE operations in the city. He has not. So speak to us, though, about
00:18:02.740 what is the next step of your relationship with President Trump, who now is, of course, yesterday,
00:18:07.680 in some ways, should be humbled because his party was dealt a significant rebuke in the House and
00:18:12.500 the Senate. Do you feel like you and your fellow Democrats, is there an opportunity there? I think
00:18:16.420 there's always an opportunity and you always have to make the ask because our job is to exhaust
00:18:21.080 every single option, right? We have Americans who are unable to afford their rent, their groceries,
00:18:29.040 their childcare. Our responsibility is to try everything to deliver change that they can feel
00:18:34.700 in their wallets. And that means taking every possible avenue. The president and I still
00:18:39.420 disagree about ICE operations in New York City, but I will still call the president if there's
00:18:44.060 something else that could help New Yorkers. Also, both Governor DeSantis and what Bill
00:18:50.540 malugan over at fox and talking about texas as a sanctuary state you talk about ice so todd
00:18:56.060 bensman uh first i want the broader picture with ice and ice enforcement um the uh you know we've
00:19:03.060 got these sanctuary states sanctuary cities they're going to try to spread that uh essentially
00:19:08.020 you have people that are um as much uh you know like john c calhoun on being uh separatist uh in
00:19:17.940 this country and want to have two countries, one that lets illegal aliens stay and make sure they
00:19:24.260 can vote, and another that wants law and order and only wants American citizens in this country. 0.97
00:19:30.040 Right now, I know you spent a lot of time, you were in the government, you just got out 0.98
00:19:34.120 your overt heritage. I want to thank you for joining us. The whole situation with ICE as we
00:19:38.600 talk about this, as we talk about this, we talk about this situation.
00:19:42.660 well first of all the administration is going to proceed with mass deportations no matter what
00:19:51.660 the last two years wherever and however they can they always prefer to have local states and local
00:19:59.680 police help them guard them help in pursuit to arrest and apprehend and turn people over to them
00:20:08.220 It always helps that way. In Texas, that is happening with Texas Department of Public Safety.
00:20:16.440 Some of them are signed on to the 287G program. Lots of different individual, you know,
00:20:23.240 hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Explain what that is. A lot of we have a huge
00:20:28.040 new audience coming in and may not be familiar with your reporting over the years. When you say
00:20:33.700 287g. What do you mean? That's the deputization program. The feds can deputize any local cop.
00:20:42.460 It's in the Immigration and Nationality Act, very clear cut. And you can deputize them to pick up
00:20:49.100 immigrants for you to detain them and bring them to ICE, turn them over to ICE. And it's a big
00:20:55.360 force multiplier. People have been using this for years and years. Democrats hate this thing
00:21:00.760 because it's so effective. Of course, the Trump administration has really supercharged 287G.
00:21:08.500 There are thousands of agreements now expanding across the country with police departments,
00:21:14.520 constables, offices, anybody who's a commissioned police officer, and they're getting paid to do it
00:21:20.040 as well. Texas is 287G. The state police have some people that I would have liked to have seen a lot
00:21:30.380 more texas uh state troopers in 287g uh dps didn't want to do that but dps is helping ice in a lot of
00:21:40.080 other ways uh pulling over but hang on i just want people to understand this not so fast
00:21:45.900 you're saying that with all the 287gs which are absolutely essential these are working
00:21:51.440 relationships with local law enforcement because ice does not have the resources and they also need
00:21:57.620 not just additional resources, but also the intelligence and savvy of local police.
00:22:02.740 The Department of Public Safety, which is the state police and, I guess, Texas Rangers,
00:22:07.600 are not part of a 287G. How could that be?
00:22:12.140 Well, the troopers are, but not all of them, just some of them.
00:22:18.200 I would have liked all of them.
00:22:19.900 In Florida, you have all the troopers are 287G.
00:22:23.400 In Oklahoma, you have all the troopers 287G.
00:22:26.180 Texas Department of Public Safety when all that was coming up was less enthusiastic I'll just say
00:22:33.420 we put pressure on them they did they did sign some up but what I what I want to say about DPS
00:22:41.860 is that they are pulling traffic stops for ICE left and right and they're very active in pulling
00:22:50.040 The traffic stops, and then ICE can run ID checks and database checks and then pick them up.
00:22:57.520 I've been on those operations many times.
00:23:01.500 I've seen how effective it is all over the state.
00:23:04.540 I've watched it happen.
00:23:06.240 They do it up in Oklahoma and some other places, too.
00:23:08.680 My concern is when I listen to Hinojosa and Vicki Goodwin, who is going to be the lieutenant governor of Texas, they hate 287G.
00:23:23.640 They don't want to assist ICE in any way.
00:23:28.960 They constantly badmouth ICE.
00:23:32.540 So I think it's fair to conclude that when they get into office, they're going to issue orders that even what I was watching them do here in Texas, I'm in Austin, that they'll stop even that, which is effectively making Texas a sanctuary jurisdiction.
00:23:54.680 I mean, if you're not allowing that to happen, ICE is going to be out there operating just like it does in other sanctuary jurisdictions like New York, California.
00:24:05.860 They're not stopping.
00:24:07.020 They're going to keep on going for the next two years.
00:24:09.740 But the force multiplying effect of having the state police involved can't be understated.
00:24:17.060 It's huge because the state police can go anywhere.
00:24:20.860 They can go into remote areas.
00:24:22.620 They can go into blue jurisdictions whose police departments are not into this and they can they have, you know, broad reach and they're smart.
00:24:32.800 They understand how to spot them and how to how to, you know, collaborate with ICE in a way that produces a lot of arrests.
00:24:44.220 When you say this, I want to go back to something and I want you to stay through the break.
00:24:48.640 We've got a lot more to drill down on this on Texas as a potential sanctuary state that could happen very quickly.
00:24:55.580 When you said mass deportations, you know, we've had Mike Howell and others, these great warriors on the immigration front,
00:25:03.000 have formed this thing called the Mass Deportation Coalition.
00:25:06.620 And I was fortunate enough to speak at the Young Republicans of Texas convention they had a couple of weeks ago,
00:25:16.080 which had all these young folks there and they were fired up about mass
00:25:20.700 deportations. And, uh, and Mike Howell gave a barn burner speech.
00:25:24.760 Are there really mass deportations? Have there been mass deportations?
00:25:29.340 The operant word there mass deportations going on in Texas to date,
00:25:33.300 or is it just a series of onesies Tuesdays?
00:25:36.720 I mean, first of all, I'm involved in that. I'm, I know all those guys,
00:25:40.760 mike and appreciate what they're doing uh i am down with their goals uh mass deportation is a
00:25:49.040 very subjective term uh i will say that uh the numbers of arrests are ramping up hugely right
00:25:58.180 now 50 60 000 a month uh that is not as many as we're coming over the border but remember the
00:26:05.040 people coming over the border were all turning themselves in. They were give ups. These guys are
00:26:11.280 all on the run. So you got to just hunt them down. They're going to be less that you're catching than
00:26:16.420 were coming in initially. My understanding is that there's maybe 50,000 to 60,000 arrests a month
00:26:25.420 and about 10,000 a month less deportations,
00:26:29.740 actual asses in airplane seats flying out to other countries.
00:26:35.880 So figure 40,000 a month. 0.95
00:26:38.000 That's my understanding.
00:26:39.660 I'm calling on the administration to release the data.
00:26:44.040 That's not a new thing.
00:26:45.760 We all want that data released.
00:26:47.620 I don't know if they're going to do it.
00:26:49.040 I don't know why they're not going to do it, probably for political reasons.
00:26:51.980 they're not going to please the mass deportation quote-unquote people and they're not going to
00:26:58.040 they're definitely not going to please the democrats on that but the numbers are climbing
00:27:03.340 i know that for a fact the numbers are climbing the big beautiful uh budget money uh is is being
00:27:12.940 spent the ice officers are being hired uh eight ten twelve thousand hired and detention space
00:27:22.640 is being built out and we needed to have that infrastructure paid for and built before we
00:27:28.540 could really get to good numbers it took a long time i mean there was an opposition in congress
00:27:34.280 remember all the big fight about the big beautiful budget bill ice had to have that money before it
00:27:39.840 get it underway i'm not so sure they're going to get it all because there's going to be another
00:27:43.420 fight anyway todd stick with us texas is a sanctuary state things that have to happen
00:27:47.680 we're going to ask todd to draft off of what brian harrison is saying we need this petition
00:27:54.280 can we make sure mo and grace we get it out there um jordan boyd's going to join us about what
00:28:00.200 happened and why in the great state of texas todd benson of heritage is going to stick with us
00:28:04.420 Jordan's from the Federalist. Stick around. It's about Texas in the first hour.
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00:30:35.260 ben's been back in here in a moment because don't think they're just gonna sit here even with the
00:30:39.260 reconciliation supposedly got this funding all the way to january 2029 democrat senators these
00:30:44.540 new elect senators are coming up all day long to the microphone and saying i'm not going to approve
00:30:48.780 any any trump nominee any trump nominee they think they've limited his presidency to two years
00:30:55.600 okay they think they've limited anything for this republican administration to for two years
00:31:00.680 uh and that's what we gotta we gotta have a work run and they're going to try to jam down so much
00:31:05.320 unpleasant stuff the republican establishment that got purged is going to try to jam down so
00:31:11.120 many unpleasant things in this um uh lame duck session uh that's going to make your head swim
00:31:17.640 So we're going to get all over top of that also.
00:31:19.820 Todd will be back in a second.
00:31:20.940 So I would not assume we're going to have unlimited money to make sure that we can continue mass deportations.
00:31:27.920 And we've got to get the data.
00:31:30.080 No more games.
00:31:31.380 Got to get the data.
00:31:32.420 Didn't want to put the data out for political reasons.
00:31:34.200 Hey, how did that work out for you? 0.98
00:31:36.520 Let's get people fired up. 0.99
00:31:37.880 Let's get people focused that want this.
00:31:39.460 What they voted for in 2024, they didn't see it.
00:31:41.620 jordan boyd um you know we're pretty sensitive here to when narratives are trying to be in was
00:31:48.460 all of a sudden i started hearing candidate quality candidate quality candidate quality
00:31:53.620 that's consultant speak uh for it's not our policies or the way the consulting class stole
00:32:00.300 the money that was supposed to go into these campaigns particularly the grassroots uh they're
00:32:04.980 looking for a scapegoat and the facts are just not there there is a brilliant piece in this morning's
00:32:10.980 the Federalist, Sean Davis, the Federalist, and the team over there always have multiple
00:32:16.660 brilliant pieces a day. Jordan Boyd joins us. And Jordan, you're a native of Texas. Are you from
00:32:22.620 Lubbock, I think? Yes. Yeah. I've been in Texas for almost all 27 years of my life. So I'm very
00:32:29.980 familiar with the ins and outs of our state and what the people want. Well, walk us through this
00:32:35.440 because, you know, they're pointing the finger at people like Beau French and pointing the finger
00:32:39.880 at General Paxton, but the big story, the signal down there is that there is a repudiation
00:32:47.640 of the business-as-usual Republican-slash-Democrat political class of the Bushes, because it was
00:32:57.580 Abbott that got smoked.
00:32:58.880 In fact, I think Beau French ran even better than Abbott and his ticket.
00:33:02.420 So walk through your analysis today, which I think is a great counterpunch to how Karl
00:33:07.980 Rove and that team are trying to spin it in Texas. Because Texas, I'm telling people, unless you get
00:33:13.240 on top of this thing like now, and we turn this Texas situation around, you lose Texas, you're
00:33:18.400 going to lose this country. Ma'am, the floor is yours. Yeah, things look really dire after Tuesday,
00:33:24.300 right? But the idea that this had something to do with candidate quality is ludicrous. And all it
00:33:29.520 takes is one look at the data to suggest that that's insane. Beau French at one point was
00:33:34.780 outperforming Abbott. And there were people out there, political analysts or people in the press,
00:33:39.820 the corporate media, finger wagging Texans saying, oh, you know, Beau French's Twitter is the reason
00:33:45.780 that you guys lost the entire state. And that couldn't be further from the truth. This didn't
00:33:49.800 have anything to do with Paxton's history, personal history or allegations or the impeachment
00:33:55.540 shenanigans that happened. This had everything to do with Texans are frustrated with elitism.
00:34:01.400 They're frustrated with the administrations and the people that they elect to go to Washington immediately turning their backs on them and betraying them.
00:34:10.400 And that's why we saw Cornyn lose so badly in the primary runoff.
00:34:15.080 And here he is this morning in The Wall Street Journal, finger wagging his state and finger wagging his party, the party that he is exiting, because he got voted out and saying, well, you guys just need to be more likable and you lost an opportunity at progress.
00:34:28.780 This man is still sitting in the Senate and has an opportunity to do something before the new Democrats are sworn in.
00:34:35.660 And he's telling Texans, well, you betrayed me by, you know, voting me out of office.
00:34:41.000 And it couldn't be further from the truth. It's the complete opposite.
00:34:45.300 Why did the Bush, Junta, why did the Bush, Abbott and these guys, plus running for a fourth term, I think a lot of people are just saying, hey, maybe you've been there too long.
00:34:52.800 But they govern. We have Brian Harrison and all these grassroots leaders on all the time saying how they essentially are partnered with the Democrats.
00:35:03.740 This is how you have a guy like Tallarico in the Texas House can say he co-sponsored 60 bills because they've given him a position of authority where it should be totally run by conservatives and MAGA and Texas Republicans.
00:35:18.880 to walk us through how is the political class down there not served their voters i mean it's
00:35:24.920 pretty obvious if you spend time down there you realize the the republican political class in the
00:35:30.400 great state of texas has contempt for their voter base this is why avid and these guys were always
00:35:36.480 so late to the most basic issues like border security deportations except everything that
00:35:42.500 everything that they do there it's a really the tip of a political bayonet to force them to do
00:35:48.120 But where did this contempt for the great citizens of Texas? Because, you know, it's a second largest state. It's got an amazing economy, amazing people.
00:35:57.640 And the base down there is the most powerful base, even more so than Florida and Ohio. It is the railhead of the MAGA movement.
00:36:05.460 What is where is the contempt come from? Yeah, I always tell people Texans are conservatives.
00:36:11.380 The people they elect, they're not. And it's true. I mean, we've seen a lot of shenanigans in the Texas ledge, even where Republicans partner with Democrats, and we now have seen it on a national level with John Cornyn and other people. 1.00
00:36:23.060 So this contempt is not unique to Texas, right? We see this throughout the Republican Party on a national level.
00:36:29.920 I mean, just look at the GOP-controlled Senate right now. They had a Republican trifecta, an opportunity to pass key legislation that Americans wanted, like the Save America Act.
00:36:40.500 And they turned their backs on these people. So this is just a reflection of that. Unfortunately, in Texas, there's like a specific group of people that continue to fund this elitism, that continue to fund this contempt.
00:36:51.520 And a lot of that has to do with how Cornyn got in office, the Bush family, you know, kind of siding with Tallarico in this election, going against Trump the last 10 years.
00:37:02.620 It's horrible. It's horrific. It's horrific for Texans who are living here to now see that their state has turned blue under their very eyes.
00:37:10.860 And like you said, the time to act is now. This is a dire situation. This is not something that we can sit on our hands about.
00:37:16.900 People need to recognize the moment. And this doesn't happen just, you know, overnight. Democrats have been working for a long time to turn Texas blue. And they were helped by Abbott importing hundreds of thousands of foreigners or, you know, building incentives for people to move from Democrat states like California to move their corporations for tax breaks here and then import all of these, you know, completely ideologically different people into our state.
00:37:42.220 this was not, this did not happen in a vacuum. This was something that was happening years after
00:37:46.960 years. People were canary in the coal mine about it and, uh, our elected leaders ignored it.
00:37:53.020 No, I mean, Abbott was the biggest sponsor of, uh, not simply data centers, but data centers paid
00:37:58.480 for, paid for by working people by the property taxes to give these huge tax breaks. And only
00:38:04.000 after it became evident that data centers were going to become a, or a manifestation of people's
00:38:09.400 contempt for the tech oligarchs that did he shift but it was way too late jordan you say this a dire
00:38:15.080 moment you've got to recognize this situation what do you think being a native texan and a
00:38:19.740 conservative describe the moment and what do you think has to happen because before anything else
00:38:25.800 needs to be dealt with i think the mega movement and conservatives need to deal with texas
00:38:31.060 immediately they have all kinds of plans this is what harrison harrison on here about about this
00:38:36.520 emergency powers of the government which he has fought uh from a few years ago when abbott won
00:38:41.780 his fourth term because they're going to very rapidly try to turn texas into a sanctuary state
00:38:46.600 once you turn texas into sanctuary state it's katie bar the door so ma'am the moment we're in
00:38:52.140 the recognition of that moment and how do you see a path forward well like you said at the top of
00:38:58.320 this segment you have to identify what went wrong before you can fix it and blaming it on candidate
00:39:03.800 quality isn't going to cut it. We've got the Iran war. We've got affordability. I mean, I went to
00:39:08.680 the Trump rally in Lubbock one week before Election Day. Lubbock is a Republican stronghold. There was
00:39:13.340 no reason Trump should have been there unless they knew things were going to be bad. And the people
00:39:17.740 I talk to, especially the young people, are so concerned about their ability to afford a home
00:39:22.420 or find a job when they're competing with people coming in on H-1B visas. These are the real issues
00:39:27.760 that are facing Americans on a daily basis. And what we've seen over and over and over and what
00:39:32.380 we're seeing now, even in this election postmortem, is that people don't want to deal with those
00:39:36.920 issues. You know, they want to avoid saying the Iran war played a big role in this. They want to
00:39:40.620 avoid saying affordability and gas prices was one of the reasons that some people flipped or just
00:39:44.640 didn't show up at all. So identifying that J.D. Vance's tweet yesterday was a great start of
00:39:50.420 saying, hey, yeah, you know, the war did play a big role here. Not blaming candidate quality. It's
00:39:54.880 not candidate quality if the ballot up and down goes Democrat, you know, and speaking of candidate
00:39:59.400 quality. Democrats didn't exactly have the most quality candidates in terms of what their party
00:40:03.760 wants. Right. So it wasn't candidate quality. It had everything to do with the war, with
00:40:08.200 affordability, with people being fed up with elitism. They wanted America first. That's why
00:40:13.240 they voted for Trump in 2024. And they need to see that out of more people than Trump. And they
00:40:17.660 need to see that out of him, too, with this war. Jordan, where do we get you over the Federalist
00:40:24.140 and what's your social media, ma'am?
00:40:26.940 Yeah, you can find me at Jordan Boyd TX on X and Truth,
00:40:31.120 all of those good things, and then over at the Federalist.
00:40:34.680 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you.
00:40:36.880 Thank you.
00:40:39.020 Todd Bensman, your thoughts and observations
00:40:42.380 about what Jordan had to say in Harrison this morning,
00:40:45.640 and then after the break,
00:40:46.540 and we get more into these specific policies
00:40:49.240 that will avoid us having Texas as a sanctuary state.
00:40:52.600 Texas becomes a sanctuary state. You've got even a bigger mountain to climb. Todd Benzman.
00:40:59.580 Well, first of all, as a Texas resident, I know exactly what she's talking about with the
00:41:05.460 Californians being imported in here. I think that that whole thing needs to be deconstructed here 1.00
00:41:11.500 as well, because I live in Austin and, you know, I've watched Austin just get congested and crowded
00:41:20.360 with Californians. Every other guy around here is a Californian and also an H-1B visa holder.
00:41:26.820 We've got lots of H-1Bs where I live. Now, they're not supposed to be voting, 1.00
00:41:32.500 Wink, but the Californians certainly are. And Elon Musk is here. And I don't know how many he
00:41:38.660 brought in from where, but the point is, is I'm not even sure you can control that, right? I mean,
00:41:43.880 that's growth. So there's an argument on the other side, but certainly politically,
00:41:50.360 uh republicans could be working on that issue maybe you can flip them maybe you can you know
00:41:56.120 build a counter movement against that sort of importation a lot of people um as for harrison
00:42:03.960 this morning i gotta admit i had not heard about that i'd been covering i'd not covered the
00:42:09.320 legislature as a reporter uh before so i was not aware that that existed and it's pretty shocking
00:42:16.680 If that's the case, I would agree that something has to be done in an emergency, immediate way to fix that because these people that are coming in now are very, very ideologically progressive left, and they are going to take a scythe.
00:42:37.820 If they have that power, they're going to use that like a scythe to just cut through everything that is near and dear to conservative voters in Texas.
00:42:50.200 And it's going to happen fast.
00:42:52.100 Now, the House fell to the – it fell blue, but the Senate, the state Senate, is still red.
00:42:59.400 So it is going to be gridlock.
00:43:01.460 That is why what he's saying is really important because it's a workaround.
00:43:07.820 It's emergency power. Todd, hang on for one second. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to return to the war room in just a moment.
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00:47:15.420 I don't want to say anything in competition.
00:47:17.320 Todd Bensman.
00:47:20.480 I want to go back and tie Harrison.
00:47:22.500 Harrison's saying to what you walked us through yesterday,
00:47:25.680 you said, hey, look, the reason we have the borders that's secured
00:47:29.120 to the degree it's been secured,
00:47:31.160 part of that is because Texas under Abbott has come forward.
00:47:34.240 And remember, he wasn't that aggressive.
00:47:36.620 Years ago, you would be down there.
00:47:38.200 We talk about the performative nature of much of what he was doing.
00:47:40.780 But when President Trump came in, they did they did allocate assets and quite a bit of assets up to billions of dollars a year.
00:47:48.620 This is what I'm saying. I wouldn't on the money side.
00:47:51.900 I wouldn't take anything for granted what these Democrats are going to do.
00:47:54.780 I understand. And the reconciliation last time is supposed to be fully funded through January twenty twenty nine.
00:48:00.020 But you're talking about you're talking about you're talking about radicals.
00:48:03.800 How does that fit with what you just became aware of with Brian Harrison?
00:48:07.780 You should understand, Brian Harrison did the exact same thing when Abbott won the third term because he thought it was just, first off, he says Abbott and these guys basically govern like Democrats.
00:48:18.580 He just thought it was too much power.
00:48:19.940 But given what you heard from Harrison this morning and what you told us yesterday about the assets they're doing, what kind of situation are we in Texas?
00:48:28.380 Because we must do everything now immediately to make sure Texas cannot become a sanctuary state.
00:48:34.840 If it's a sanctuary state like California, Illinois, New York and New York City in Minnesota, we're going to have problems that may be insurmountable, sir.
00:48:45.860 Make no mistake that this is a federal operation.
00:48:50.680 The feds have taken over the Texas border, DOW, CBP, and they've got it under control.
00:48:58.200 But Texas, the Texas-Mexico border is really sophisticated, complex terrain with a winding river that's twisting and lots of brush and a lot of urban area where people can run and hide and disappear.
00:49:15.180 And it's a very complicated place.
00:49:17.460 So the more the merrier, the more people the merrier.
00:49:20.760 And the way they use Texas DPS and Texas forces, military forces, is they're behind the line.
00:49:27.800 They're the second line behind the first line at the frontier there.
00:49:34.400 And when you need helicopters, you call the helicopters in.
00:49:38.020 When you need a DPS SWAT team to go do something, they can get their drones up.
00:49:42.800 They can get troopers running after people that flee the scene, that break through the checkpoint.
00:49:50.440 They have investigators.
00:49:52.740 Really, they have boats, air, marine, and land.
00:49:55.960 And they are using those. And they're very, somebody told me at CBP in a high ranking position that, you know, we have direct tactical collaboration with the Texas forces and we need them.
00:50:10.620 So if Hinojosa comes in there and Goodwin come in there and they already we already know that they hate this whole thing.
00:50:18.440 They say it over and over again.
00:50:20.860 They're going to they have the power to withdraw from the operations.
00:50:27.380 So, you know, I already had one high ranking CBP person tell me that they are worried about this in Texas and have ordered up a worst case scenario plan for when it happens or if it happens, how are they going to compensate?
00:50:43.700 So they're already worried about losing Texas as a partner down there.
00:50:49.360 Now, Texas also has some unique authorities.
00:50:52.320 For example, they use Texas all the time for unaccompanied minors who are smugglers.
00:50:58.700 There's a lot of the cartels use underage smugglers because they know the feds can't arrest them and prosecute them for age.
00:51:06.900 But the Texans can. So they turn them over to Texas and they're busting those underage, you know, child smugglers.
00:51:15.480 I've met them. I mean, these are tough kids. Don't feel too sorry for them.
00:51:19.060 um but uh anyway that's just one of the many things that they rely on yeah texas also has a
00:51:26.580 law they passed laws we can bust people for illegal entry uh that's a unique authority
00:51:34.900 that texas have and harrison if he's right they could just scythe that thing down cut that thing
00:51:41.200 down uh as well as a bunch of other laws hey todd just hang on one second i just want to keep you
00:51:47.280 just for a few minutes on the other side uh there's a couple more questions i think have
00:51:51.720 for the answer the audience needs to understand todd bensman from heritage was in the trump
00:51:56.440 administration has been a contributor to the show for i don't know five or six years just
00:52:01.180 incredible has put his life on the line many times very dangerous locations on the border
00:52:07.680 and south of the border um a dire situation the state of texas can't say anything else about it
00:52:14.600 Also, what's happening in Washington, D.C., even as we speak.
00:52:20.180 Short commercial break.
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