Bannon's War Room - November 06, 2026


Episode 5791： Stephen Miller Becomes New Chief Of Staff; Dems Opening The Texas Border

Episode 5786： Stopping Texas From Becoming A Sanctuary State

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00:00:00.000 And let me tell you this, the Wall Street Journal has just reported that the White House has sent a memo to more than 3,000 conservative groups warning,
00:00:07.120 we are monitoring your statements, press releases, and media engagements from your organizations.
00:00:12.660 That does not sound like a White House ready to learn from its mistakes.
00:00:15.980 I think that you have to look to people like Susie Wild, the chief of staff, and the political consultants that are there.
00:00:22.040 And quite frankly, my strong belief is because of the results, they should be removed and removed immediately.
00:00:29.540 and this kind of nonsense on putting that out is an obscenity.
00:00:36.380 Let me just say that, an obscenity.
00:00:37.700 There are so many people that warn people about this,
00:00:40.540 and not just that, the beating heart of the MAGA base.
00:00:43.280 They don't want restrictions.
00:00:44.400 This is a time that we have to get this right.
00:00:47.540 Right now in Texas, we have a fight.
00:00:49.840 If we do not, today we have the show again named Brian Harrison,
00:00:52.820 we have it all the time, but he's a conservative from Texas.
00:00:55.460 He's gone through, he fought after Abbott won the third time,
00:00:58.120 the kind of imperial power that the governor of Texas has, and he fought it last time and lost.
00:01:04.500 He put out a tweet that's now gone mega viral to say, if we don't have a special session
00:01:09.560 of the Texas House and Senate, because remember, they lost the House, by January 3rd, the new
00:01:16.500 governor coming, who's a radical about the border, she can undo everything that's done and essentially 0.99
00:01:21.180 go to an open border, but most importantly, make Texas a sanctuary state. If Texas is a sanctuary 1.00
00:01:26.620 state like New York and California, you're seeing the end of this republic as you know it.
00:01:33.660 Let me give your audience something else. The other things you're going to have to work through,
00:01:38.180 it's going to take you a cycle or two to even come within close of getting the Senate back.
00:01:43.300 I think it's going to take at least a cycle that you can't do it all in one fell swoop. It's going
00:01:48.120 to take you at least one or two cycles to get the House back. But if you do not get the problem in
00:01:53.720 Texas solved now, now, now, now.
00:01:58.400 It is structurally impossible to win the White House in 2028
00:02:02.640 without Texas being a red state, without Texas being a MAGA state.
00:02:07.980 And they know this.
00:02:08.920 That's why they put so much effort in it.
00:02:10.280 And they were stunned.
00:02:13.280 The political elite in Texas, the Bush junta, the Bush apparatus,
00:02:18.520 were stunned that they lost by seven or eight points.
00:02:21.860 This is not about Paxton.
00:02:22.780 There's not that both friends were in the same level that they did.
00:02:25.580 Capital today.
00:02:26.280 Here's what Donald Trump just posted on his truth social page.
00:02:29.920 We're going to put it up on the screen for you.
00:02:31.800 I am pleased to announce that Mr. Stephen Miller, the current deputy chief of staff of the Trump administration,
00:02:38.460 and one of my most trusted advisors, will become the chief of staff starting Monday, November 9th, 2026.
00:02:45.180 That is next Monday.
00:02:46.640 Susie Wiles, who has done an outstanding job, will be moving over to the Trump political operation.
00:02:51.980 I want to thank her for her service as chief of staff.
00:02:55.680 She has done a great job, President Donald J. Trump.
00:03:00.040 You said as you walked onto set that this is what people had been fearing would happen.
00:03:04.980 Exactly.
00:03:05.600 I mean, I was reporting the day before the midterms that when I spoke with senior administration
00:03:09.920 officials, folks really weren't focused on how to get out those last few votes in Michigan
00:03:13.940 or Texas.
00:03:14.680 Instead, what I was hearing a lot about was what is going to happen after the midterms,
00:03:18.640 specifically with Susie Wiles.
00:03:20.560 And no one at that time could say definitively that she was going to be out.
00:03:24.020 But the concern, and again, we reported this on MS Now, was that Stephen Miller would become chief of staff.
00:03:30.500 And their concern is, well, what happens inside the White House?
00:03:33.680 We know that Stephen Miller has been at odds with some lawyers in the administration who have rejected some of his ideas because they were, in some cases, blatant violations of law or things that just would not stand up in court.
00:03:46.720 So there are a lot of concerns about what this means for some top lawyers also in the White House counsel's office.
00:03:52.680 Will he install someone who will be more amenable to his ideas?
00:03:56.860 Just a lot of concern within the administration before this happened.
00:04:00.440 But I'm especially watching those key legal offices because that's one of the many places where Stephen Miller has had a lot of a lot of tensions.
00:04:08.680 But when you have Stephen Miller as chief of staff, there are going to be very clear things that are going to get done.
00:04:14.700 And one, as we've already discussed on the show, is immigration.
00:04:18.000 But it also feels to me, if you have Stephen Miller in that role, Donald Trump was never a great legislator, right, in the style of, you know, pushing through the Great New Deal or, you know, LBJ.
00:04:30.420 So I'm not surprised that he doesn't want someone who can help him work with Democrats in Congress.
00:04:35.380 But it does feel to me of maybe flexing more of his muscle on the world stage.
00:04:41.080 You know, you could see Greenland coming up again.
00:04:44.420 I'd be curious, Stephen Miller's thoughts on Canada. So I don't think Trump is going to be
00:04:48.920 sort of a dilettante. I think they may be sort of egging one another on for both of their ids.
00:04:56.500 Stephen Miller, when he was in the Senate, was not considered someone that other offices could
00:05:01.420 work with. It's not like Jeff Sessions was out there championing a bunch of bipartisan legislation.
00:05:06.020 So that's Stephen Miller's history, because he was there before he came with Trump.
00:05:09.660 Stephen Miller briefly, because we both covered him. He didn't even work. He couldn't even work
00:05:14.740 with Republicans. He couldn't even work with his own party, let alone Democrats. He's not necessarily
00:05:17.240 well-liked amongst Republicans. But when it comes to where this is headed, I just want to read some
00:05:22.500 texts that I was getting because I was texting with Republican sources close to the White House.
00:05:26.640 I said, does Miller triple down on ice? Quote, yes. What will he do? Quote, fight. And then the
00:05:33.100 other thing from a current DHS official that I've been texting with, essentially saying that what
00:05:38.860 people have to understand about miller is that he lives in the land of quote should this should
00:05:43.600 work i don't understand what's so difficult when he's trying to carry out all of these very
00:05:48.560 aggressive agenda items be it immigration or else that he's trying to push but he i mean donald trump
00:05:54.520 was here and stephen miller brought him all the way over here stephen miller was probably at the
00:05:57.820 maga a point before trump got there yeah um but when you're looking at okay who do i want to be
00:06:02.860 by my side during this lame duck period who won't abandon me who was unlikely to tell me no stephen
00:06:08.560 Miller is it, which is why this conversation was happening in the days before the midterms. It
00:06:13.540 wasn't even a response to the blue wave. It was happening prior to that in anticipation of this
00:06:18.720 lame duck period. And again, people were extremely concerned specifically about what it meant for the
00:06:24.360 lawyers in the administration who have been the only ones who are willing to say no to Stephen
00:06:27.860 Miller. Isn't it true, though, looking at that list of issues, I'd love to see the breakdown
00:06:32.300 between Republicans and Democrats to answer them, because typically in these national security
00:06:35.600 issues, and immigration is one of them, it's still tons of support in the Republican side.
00:06:41.080 Now, it's definitely dropped as the years have gone by and the extremeness of the policies
00:06:45.800 being carried out, especially with immigration. But most of the Republican side really supports
00:06:50.260 a lot of those policies. And so I think, you know, to the earlier question of, is this getting
00:06:55.100 ready for the war with the Democrats? I think it's as much of that as it is them still trying
00:06:59.320 to claim ownership of the Republican body, the Republican perspective, even if they've lost all
00:07:05.500 these races a lot of which were frankly simply because of bad candidates and that's more than
00:07:09.540 policy in some cases they've got both jobs to do and so just reclaiming their their their ability
00:07:15.880 their authority to say we own these issues and this is still what the president wants it's got
00:07:20.560 to be part of this as well but i i reject the idea that people are they they they hate how
00:07:25.140 immigration wins and so they all flip sides not necessarily they may that's not necessarily how
00:07:29.320 i read any of those national security the silly idea that this president might want to in some
00:07:34.360 way be collaborative with the people who absolutely cleaned his clock has entirely been washed away by
00:07:39.680 this announcement. And it has to be taken seriously. Robert Garcia, the head of the
00:07:43.440 Oversight Committee, potentially coming in, said Stephen Miller should lawyer up. Stephen Miller
00:07:47.960 should lawyer up. They're going to bring him before the Congress. And you better believe that
00:07:52.200 he's going to be one of the first people to be subpoenaed by this new Democratic Congress.
00:07:55.660 The main thing a Democratic base wants, I can report this to you, it's not Medicare for all. 0.82
00:08:02.820 It's not D-E-I
00:08:05.660 It's not any of that
00:08:07.960 What they want
00:08:09.500 Is to humiliate 0.76
00:08:11.580 Donald Trump
00:08:12.480 That's right
00:08:13.160 The Democratic base
00:08:14.820 More than anything
00:08:15.980 Wants to humiliate 0.99
00:08:17.880 That son of a 0.99
00:08:18.520 At every point
00:08:19.720 That we possibly can
00:08:21.100 We want to watch him
00:08:22.540 Wither in anguish
00:08:23.920 And misery
00:08:24.720 And pain
00:08:25.760 We already started
00:08:27.580 We had a good start
00:08:28.480 On November 3rd 0.97
00:08:29.980 come subpoena power drag them all up there if it moves subpoena it and follow the money 1.00
00:08:42.120 and for god's sakes follow that idiot kids that he has follow the idiots that have surrounded him 1.00
00:08:51.260 follow the people in the united states government that are engaged in treasonous behavior 1.00
00:08:57.380 i.e. dressing children as Russian soldiers.
00:09:04.280 And it's not going to be enough to fire Pete, drag him before the committee,
00:09:14.840 subpoena the generals, subpoena the admirals, 1.00
00:09:17.740 subpoena the people in the Defense Department to show what an idiot this mother f***er is. 1.00
00:09:22.580 Think about somebody like Jeff Flake. 1.00
00:09:24.700 It's been a really long decade, right?
00:09:26.620 I mean, he has been predicting the collapse of the Trump political project and the way that it would bury the Republican Party along with it for years and years and years.
00:09:36.480 And those predictions haven't always looked so prophetic, not when Trump won in 2016, not when he won again in 2024.
00:09:43.220 But this kind of Chernobyl style disaster for the Republican Party, I think, is, you know, a little bit vindicating for a lot of the never Trump conservatives.
00:09:54.900 I will say I have been texting with some of them just in the past hour with this news coming out of the White House.
00:10:01.540 And and maybe a little bit of the the exuberance is is muted now.
00:10:06.320 And maybe that was part of the the thinking.
00:10:08.900 But from the White House. But I had one Republican strategist who's worked on the Hill who texted me.
00:10:15.440 I'll just read it. He said, I actually think this is the scariest thing Trump has done.
00:10:21.020 It shows us how the next two years are going to be scorched earth.
00:10:24.260 And so I think that those who have found themselves in one way or another on the president's enemies list are bracing for what Stephen Miller as chief of staff will mean for them.
00:10:35.220 I'll ask you the question I've asked Scott and Jake.
00:10:37.780 What do you think Republicans do in Congress now that Donald Trump has put Stephen Miller in charge?
00:10:43.900 It's a good question. And I don't know.
00:10:47.400 I mean, that's maybe the biggest X factor. Right.
00:10:50.140 Because, you know, this is obvious. This is a wartime appointment. Right.
00:10:53.860 You don't appoint Stephen Miller as chief of staff unless you're girding for war.
00:10:57.460 And I've spent time with Stephen Miller in the first Trump administration.
00:11:00.940 I profiled him for The Atlantic.
00:11:02.380 His whole M.O. all the way back to his teenage years was was provocation above all else.
00:11:08.660 Right. He actually told me that he believed in creating controversy for the sake of enlightenment.
00:11:14.100 That was his his term.
00:11:16.140 And I think that we're going to see in the next couple of years a lot of efforts by Stephen Miller in this White House to try to bait Democrats.
00:11:23.700 into overreaching, creating scandals and provocations to, you know, somehow tilt the
00:11:31.340 field in their favor. What will Republicans in Congress who are desperately willing to move on
00:11:37.600 from this era do in response? It's possible that Stephen Miller will overreach. It's possible that
00:11:43.260 the Trump White House will overreach in respect to their relationship with Republicans on the
00:11:49.040 hell. I think that they have taken for granted this abject loyalty from their Congress.
00:11:54.240 Who aren't Stephen Miller?
00:11:56.380 Friday, 6th November, Year of Our Lord, 2026. Finally, change is made. And that was the
00:12:02.860 interview I gave where they said they sent out 3,000 emails and text messages to conservative
00:12:09.980 groups and MAGA groups about, we're monitoring what you say about the defeat. This came from
00:12:15.760 susie wiles and that was i think the straw that and the leaks on pete hegseth i think where the
00:12:20.300 straws have broke the camel's back a lot of controversy about how this came down but it's
00:12:24.820 it's done and stephen miller who's ideologically um has been with president trump he was on
00:12:31.860 session staff and we got him the job in 20 late 2015 i think he started work the first week of
00:12:37.720 16 officially under cory lewandowski uh in the campaign um and uh was uh has been with president
00:12:45.300 trump virtually every day since then 11 years uh a maggot warrior uh and uh someone in particularly
00:12:53.420 look at the alternatives of some of the other guys which were all kind of kowtowing to the
00:12:58.800 republican establishment as suzy wilds wanted to that that's a that's a breach that has been made
00:13:04.760 this was this is an fu to the republican establishment i think it shows president
00:13:09.960 Trump understands is going to be Fort Apache. Why does he understand that? Garcia, that the incoming
00:13:16.840 oversight committee chair that Natalie has done such a brilliant job of saying they're going to
00:13:23.080 form a select committee with Jamie Raskin, he went absolutely nuts. Said Stephen, basically Stephen
00:13:28.280 Miller's a criminal. And this is a guy that's going to chair. This is how friendly they are.
00:13:32.840 They said specifically Stephen Miller should lawyer up. They're going to drag him before
00:13:36.960 the committee in the first couple of days there. These people mean full on political warfare for
00:13:42.360 President Trump, full on. And anybody doesn't get that. Anybody doesn't understand where at war
00:13:47.360 is missing the plot point. I'm going to go to the White House after a short break. And then
00:13:51.720 Todd Benzman, Todd Benzman and Brian Harrison. Brian told you about the powers that the governor
00:13:58.480 is going to have. Todd Benzman came on and said, hey, it's going to be bad enough when she takes
00:14:03.240 but right now you've got a bunch of these big cities that could reverse the anti-sanctuary 0.79
00:14:08.760 charters they have. What happened today in Houston, Texas? Houston, Texas declared themselves
00:14:16.860 a sanctuary city. Let me repeat that. Houston, Texas has declared themselves a sanctuary city.
00:14:24.120 We told you this is coming, and this is Republican. The fight for Texas just ramped up.
00:14:32.020 don't listen to the happy talk that they want to work with you.
00:14:35.380 Don't listen to the happy talk that all they care about is affordability. 0.94
00:14:39.360 These are Bolsheviks, and they tend to destroy our country. 0.94
00:14:44.380 And now Stephen Miller stepping into the breach, 1.00
00:14:46.860 and my God, I hope the White House starts to fire back,
00:14:51.720 as I know Stephen Miller can.
00:14:53.180 Short commercial break.
00:14:54.340 Benzman, McCabe in the war room.
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00:16:22.680 uh let's go to mccabe at the uh at the white house neil we talked about how sleepy it was
00:16:30.180 over there how it didn't seem like decisive action is one of the reasons the stock market
00:16:35.380 melted down uh yesterday it's look ai obviously is going to have a different relationship since
00:16:40.540 they got pummeled they got pummeled the oligarchs got pummeled and pulled by both maga and the
00:16:45.740 democrats but there was this indecision and not like coming out decisively miller will solve that
00:16:52.260 But with Susie Wiles, this got to be like the departure land.
00:16:55.560 Tell me tell me what the feeling at the White House was.
00:17:00.060 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's, you know, like they say, right, the land and the king are one.
00:17:05.340 And when the king is well, the land is well. And when the land is tired, right, the king is tired, the land is tired.
00:17:11.400 And now you're seeing decisive action as the president president left here this afternoon.
00:17:15.960 He'll be giving us remarks at Cape Canaveral, and then he'll be spending the weekend down in Florida, and then coming back Monday.
00:17:25.000 Stephen Smith, the new chief of staff, the 33rd chief of staff, has traveled with the president.
00:17:31.760 Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller, not Stephen Smith.
00:17:35.940 Stephen Miller. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Excuse me.
00:17:38.340 Stephen Miller, the 33rd chief of staff, was chosen today.
00:17:43.120 But really, things went down last night in the Oval Office when the president became frustrated and began shouting and, in essence, shouted then Chief of Staff Susie Wiles out of the Oval.
00:18:00.740 And then she was followed by one of her close allies and subordinates who's in charge of personnel, Morgan DeWitt.
00:18:06.880 and from that point it became untenable for her to remain as the chief of staff it's my understanding
00:18:14.020 that the resignation came last night and then it was just a process of resolving who was going to
00:18:19.320 be the next chief of staff and that's where it stands now and of course over the weekend like
00:18:24.820 I was saying this morning you know things have to be things have to settle down and we have to
00:18:30.100 figure out you know where are Miller's people going to come into new positions look for some
00:18:35.840 of his staffers like Caleb Orr and Dan Wasserman to come into more prominent positions on the
00:18:43.120 White House staff and then look for Morgan DeWitt, maybe Danielle Alvarez out.
00:18:48.600 But here's the point is that, yes, these lobbyists around Susie Wiles will be gone,
00:18:55.460 but Miller's been with him for 11 years. They speak in shorthand. If they brought in Kevin
00:19:01.220 McCarthy or one of these other ones, Mike Needham or other people they were talking about,
00:19:05.340 there would have been a can I get my clock the there would have been a long learning curve
00:19:11.060 there's no learning we don't have time for a learning curve you're in Fort Apache right now
00:19:15.540 they're coming with not just the selection of leadership next week they're coming with these
00:19:20.480 massive massive massive issues in legislation regarding the biggest thing in the lame duck and
00:19:28.300 everybody wants to get paid all the lobbyists want to get paid because they don't think they're gonna
00:19:31.540 to pay it again this is going to be horrible and a lot of it's going to focus on amnesty
00:19:35.860 and the funding of ice and all of that that's why miller this is his portfolio that's why he's
00:19:42.100 perfect the president this is also a big fu to the establishment republican party there's nobody
00:19:47.440 they hate dealing with more than stephen miller why stephen miller came out came off the staff of
00:19:52.720 of um uh michelle uh bachman and then went right to jeff sessions you couldn't have more people
00:20:00.120 two individuals more on the outside fighting against illegal immigration than those two.
00:20:06.720 And Stephen has no bedside manner.
00:20:09.640 To say he's a cold fish is to, you know, insult cold fish.
00:20:13.320 He's a tough, hard guy, and he doesn't burk any nonsense.
00:20:16.620 And so finally, and maybe everybody wasn't totally ecstatic with the performance in the last couple of years,
00:20:22.440 but that's because he was under Susie Wiles' thumb and the lobbyist around him.
00:20:27.640 Now he's kind of unchained. 0.97
00:20:28.660 Hang her for one second. 0.99
00:20:29.500 Benzman, you know the inside workings here, particularly when they're going to jam an amnesty with H-1Bs and everything. 0.99
00:20:37.260 They're coming to jam. This thing's written. It's drafted. 0.98
00:20:40.420 There's not some theoretical exercise. They're coming.
00:20:43.320 The president has made a huge statement already by saying, hey, Miller's going to be my guy here.
00:20:49.080 Before we talk about Texas and your in your brilliant called shot about Texas is a sanctuary state as of now.
00:20:57.740 Okay, as soon as the president's coming down, if he goes to the sticks or if he goes to Gagor and cut right to it.
00:21:05.400 Benzman, give me your thoughts on Stephen Miller first.
00:21:07.460 You work closely with the folks over there.
00:21:10.560 You know how close he is to DHS and ICE, sir?
00:21:14.660 Well, I'll tell you what.
00:21:16.540 ICE and DHS are going to the mattresses, obviously. 0.78
00:21:20.040 So he'll make a great wartime consigliari for sure. 0.66
00:21:24.500 I don't think that the legislation that you're talking about is going to make it far past the veto.
00:21:34.960 But as far as Stephen Miller goes, you're going to need somebody who has his kind of battle-hardened savvy on these issues.
00:21:43.000 I really don't know anybody who, in uniform or out of uniform, who knows more about immigration policy, border security than that guy.
00:21:54.240 He actually, you know, probably should have written the book.
00:21:58.100 But everybody in DHS and in the White House and on the staff over there understands that they can't get anything past that guy, that nobody can BS that guy.
00:22:10.780 And he is not only a good trooper, but he's a field commander kind of guy who knows how to herd a bunch of cats, policy cats, in a way that you have to kind of see to believe.
00:22:27.320 So he is – and I didn't work closely with him or directly with him, but I felt Stephen Miller the whole time I was over there.
00:22:35.580 i want to make sure the president right there we pick him up on audio if we pick him on audio
00:22:42.180 we're going to go right to it because i know he just turned around i think he's got isaac man
00:22:45.080 right there from uh from from nice from nasa and his byron donalds you just mentioned the veto
00:22:51.440 in this people should be a i believe ben's minute and you and i can have disagreement on this but
00:22:58.220 this is my point about a lame duck ain't a regular session you've got a ton of guys that got fired
00:23:02.900 are going home and they're going to look to get paid by lobbyists.
00:23:05.560 They're going to look to become lobbyists.
00:23:06.960 They're going to look to become to live off the swamp because they don't want to go home
00:23:11.040 and work as a country lawyer anymore.
00:23:12.740 They've tasted the life of the Paris on the Potomac, right? 0.98
00:23:17.300 So I think when you say veto, I'm not so sure in the House, in the Senate, with rhino Republicans 0.98
00:23:23.680 plus guys that got fired by the voters, I think you can overcome a veto. 1.00
00:23:28.360 I wouldn't just say I wouldn't just automatically say, oh, he's going to be able to veto it.
00:23:34.400 President Trump's inclination will be to do that.
00:23:37.520 But I think there's certain things because the business community wants this amnesty bill.
00:23:43.480 This amnesty bill is not just going to be for illegal aliens.
00:23:46.240 It's going to be my understanding.
00:23:48.080 There's a president right there.
00:23:49.200 Look like he's not going to have a gaggle.
00:23:51.420 They're going to get into the into the beast.
00:23:54.200 And he's going to go out to Cape Canaveral.
00:23:55.620 He's going to give remarks there.
00:23:56.660 Of course, we'll follow all that.
00:23:57.840 But, Benzman, your thoughts, sir, this is what concerns me that this amnesty program they're coming up with, I think, already has huge buy in from the swamp and the swamp wants this done, sir.
00:24:12.400 Well, I've never been that great with math, but the arithmetic that I'm doing, I'm not I'm not I hear you.
00:24:20.480 I just am hoping that they're not going to have the two thirds they need to overcome a veto.
00:24:26.720 I don't I can't count that high. I'm not counting that high for them to be able to do that.
00:24:33.900 However, I hear what you're saying. Lobbyists are going to be out there with long knives, etc.
00:24:39.920 So, you know, it's quite possible they could muster.
00:24:43.160 Talk, talk, talk to me. But talk to me about you many of the fact that he's just not some policy wonk because he is the head of the domestic policy council as a side gig, side hustle from his deputy chief of staff.
00:24:54.020 You say he's a field commander. He knows how to bring all the forces together from the different agencies, which is like herding cats.
00:25:00.080 Because remember, a lot of these people in institutions have their own way of doing things.
00:25:04.060 They think, screw Trump. We're going to we're going to do it our way and just wait him out.
00:25:08.040 Talk to talk to me about your understanding of his as a field commander to make things happen.
00:25:13.620 Right. Well, so, you know, he has his 10 a.m. morning meetings.
00:25:19.080 Those have been those are sort of almost notorious.
00:25:23.360 But, you know, he's he's known as somebody who's really tough, who can be really harsh, who can is not afraid to cajole and or threaten, you know, to whatever he has to in order to get things done.
00:25:40.080 And you can complain about that if you want.
00:25:42.680 But from what I saw, it was really effective.
00:25:45.080 It worked. Because in government, you have people that aren't always very motivated to work.
00:25:51.460 It's just the truth. I mean, there are bureaucrats that don't want to do things.
00:25:56.500 And Miller understood that. I think he has always understood what he was dealing with.
00:26:02.340 And so, you know, he's a guy who had a kind of a baton at his side all the time, you know, from what I understand.
00:26:09.380 And and he wasn't afraid to use it. But the fact is, is that he got things pushed through and he got things done and he had demands on people and he expected accountability.
00:26:20.640 He was always the next day. What did you do on the promise that you made yesterday? I want to hear what you did and why didn't you do that?
00:26:30.100 So these kind of conversations were notorious in the 10 a.m., which I was sort of glad that I wasn't a part of those because, you know, that's a tough guy in there.
00:26:41.700 And I think that he was always kind of a chief of staff in training.
00:26:46.220 He probably should have been the first chief of staff, but whatever, that's an opinion.
00:26:51.260 He's probably right where he needs to be, especially now the waters are rough.
00:26:56.200 You're going to have Congress going after everybody with congressional investigations and subpoenas.
00:27:01.340 And you've got to have somebody who's got a head on their shoulder, who's smart, who is able to cut back, who can fire back, to whom offense, a good defense is an offense.
00:27:14.320 So we'll see what happens with all of that.
00:27:16.940 But there's definitely going to be spears flying.
00:27:19.860 Spears are going to be flying.
00:27:21.000 Yeah, spears flying.
00:27:22.540 I like that. 0.67
00:27:23.520 Okay, hang on.
00:27:24.140 You had an amazing called shot on the war room.
00:27:29.160 And as we warned, Houston is a sanctuary city.
00:27:36.440 They're going to turn Texas to a sanctuary state.
00:27:39.360 As soon as they get it to a sanctuary state like New York and California and Illinois, game, set, match.
00:27:46.840 Unbelievable.
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00:29:47.820 Years from now, if there's no Trump in office and no Republican in office, and there very well
00:29:53.860 might not be if Texas doesn't flip back to red, because you've got to have those electoral college
00:29:59.980 votes to win. There's going to be a Democrat in office, and then you'd have Democrats running
00:30:06.280 Texas who want zero razor wire, zero water barriers, really just no enforcement down there 0.97
00:30:16.320 whatsoever. It'd be like California during the Biden administration. There was nothing down there.
00:30:21.560 They were just pouring in. Or Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, at least, there was some kind of
00:30:28.300 membrane they had to go through. There was still opposition. And if you were a drug trafficker,
00:30:34.220 you could very well get caught by Texas or smuggling. You could very well get caught or
00:30:39.600 other crimes. So imagine nothing down there, just wide open. And remember, I told you the Texas
00:30:47.320 border is totally unique. It is way easier to sneak in over the Texas border sight unseen than
00:30:54.820 any of the other border areas along the southern border. The feds have taken over
00:31:02.100 the Texas border, DOW, CBP, and they've got it under control. But the Texas-Mexico border is
00:31:11.980 really sophisticated, complex terrain with a winding river that's twisting and lots of brush
00:31:19.860 and a lot of urban area where people can run and hide and disappear.
00:31:25.240 And it's a very complicated place.
00:31:27.540 So the more the merrier, the more people the merrier.
00:31:30.840 And the way they use Texas DPS and Texas forces, military forces,
00:31:35.800 is they're behind the line.
00:31:37.980 They're the second line behind the first line at the frontier there.
00:31:44.480 And when you need helicopters, you call the helicopters in.
00:31:48.040 And when you need a DPS SWAT team to go do something, they can get their drones up.
00:31:52.900 They can get troopers running after people that flee the scene, that break through the checkpoint.
00:32:00.520 They have investigators.
00:32:02.840 Really, they have boats, air, marine, and land, and they are using those.
00:32:07.880 And they're very, somebody told me at CBP in a high ranking position that, you know, we have direct tactical collaboration with the Texas forces and we need them.
00:32:20.700 So if Hinojosa comes in there and Goodwin come in there and they already, we already know that they hate this whole thing.
00:32:28.520 They say it over and over again.
00:32:30.920 They're going to, they have the power to withdraw from the operations.
00:32:37.460 So, you know, I already had one high ranking CBP person tell me that they are worried about this in Texas and have ordered up a worst case scenario plan for when it happens or if it happens, how are they going to compensate?
00:32:53.780 So they're already worried about losing Texas as a partner down there.
00:32:58.380 This morning, I have directed the chief and HPD through an executive order that we will change our policy in regarding contact with ICE.
00:33:15.320 I do this to begin a healing process, reduce fear and anxiety across our community.
00:33:25.680 todd benson you warned us about this tell explain to the audience what the houston mayor did what
00:33:33.460 this executive order is what he signed this morning and what the implication is
00:33:37.500 what you just saw there is the very first domino to fall of many more that will very shortly fall
00:33:45.920 uh the city of houston by the way has probably got more illegal aliens living in it than anywhere
00:33:53.040 else in texas that place is a cartel haven you have got to have heavy police heavy ice heavy
00:34:00.920 everything there uh lots and lots of illegal i mean remember texas is the has the second highest
00:34:06.480 population of illegal aliens uh in the country um i want to just explain a little bit you know
00:34:13.600 So in 2017, the state legislature here in Austin passed SB 4, which is an anti-sanctuary law, which basically says every city police sheriff's office, constable's office, whatever, must contact ICE and work with ICE to pick up criminal aliens in the jails, to pick them up out of the state prisons, etc.
00:34:42.340 right, a call to ICE, bat phone to ICE. If you don't do it, the attorney general, who at that
00:34:48.900 time was a Republican too, Ken Paxton, was empowered to enforce that law. You could fine a city $25,000
00:34:59.960 a day. You could charge a police chief with a misdemeanor and also charge that police chief
00:35:08.360 fines as well and have them removed from office if they didn't play ball, they didn't play in the
00:35:14.500 sandbox. So what you just saw right there in Houston with that mayor, that blue mayor, that 0.72
00:35:20.800 blue city, is them knowing that new Democrats are coming into office who are not going to enforce
00:35:29.000 that law. They're going to just ignore it. And I told you that that was a possibility when we
00:35:35.160 talked yesterday, that that was one of the things that I was keeping an eye on. I didn't think it
00:35:40.000 would happen this fast. But that means that people in Houston should be very afraid. Not that ICE is
00:35:50.180 going to come pick them up, but that the Houston PD is now going to release criminal aliens onto
00:35:55.980 the streets instead of calling ICE. This is absolutely a catastrophe, especially for a city
00:36:02.400 like Houston, where the crime rates had been falling and falling, but they're still kind
00:36:07.180 of up there.
00:36:07.700 Big murder rate.
00:36:09.200 Lots of Tren de Aragua, lots of gangs there, lots of cartel guys there.
00:36:13.920 That is the last place in the world you want to not call ICE to come get your crooks out
00:36:19.320 of jail.
00:36:20.840 One last thing is, if Houston did it, you can probably expect Dallas to do it, which
00:36:28.020 has got another big population, San Antonio, Austin.
00:36:31.440 And all the cities in Texas are blue.
00:36:33.920 So that law was the only thing that was keeping them in the sandbox playing with the feds.
00:36:40.560 They will become, by the way, can I tee that up again?
00:36:42.720 Tell me when it's ready.
00:36:43.420 I want to play it again.
00:36:44.340 Just the mayor.
00:36:49.480 I want to play this again because it's got this empathetic, this is the Democrat, you know, big empathy language.
00:36:56.000 Let's play it.
00:36:56.480 This morning, I have directed the chief and HPD through an executive order that we will change our policy in regarding contact with ICE.
00:37:14.580 I do this to begin a healing process, reduce fear and anxiety across our community.
00:37:26.480 Reduce fear and anxiety and begin a healing process.
00:37:30.040 What in the hell does that mean, Todd Bensman?
00:37:32.300 A healing process for the cartels? 0.97
00:37:34.920 A healing process for these bad hombres?
00:37:38.960 Yeah, I hear what you said, but people are going to die because of this.
00:37:43.600 This is going to lead to death and mayhem absolutely for sure.
00:37:49.180 because almost every day you hear about one of these blue cities, Chicago, Boston,
00:37:56.540 release somebody who is a criminal alien instead of calling ICE to come get them. 0.98
00:38:01.960 And they went right out and raped somebody or molested a kid or murdered somebody. 0.97
00:38:07.960 I mean, almost every day you hear stories about this. 0.89
00:38:11.540 Go to the ICE website.
00:38:12.800 ICE has got a website up there where they post these stories, these horrible stories every single day.
00:38:19.180 so Houston is about to join
00:38:22.140 I mean it's so preventable
00:38:23.640 I'll never really understand
00:38:26.020 as long as I live
00:38:27.080 why police
00:38:29.660 departments and mayors
00:38:31.520 inflict criminal aliens
00:38:33.980 on their own people 0.91
00:38:35.500 I don't get it
00:38:37.940 I wish somebody would just ask him
00:38:39.760 it's easy 1.00
00:38:42.060 it's what the Bolsheviks do 0.99
00:38:43.240 they want the chaos 0.96
00:38:44.120 they want the population to be terrorized
00:38:46.860 that's why they're doing this
00:38:48.600 And by the way, this is why they're doing it with the worst of the bad hombres.
00:38:52.340 But being a sanctuary city, walk us out.
00:38:55.780 You've called this shot.
00:38:57.180 Tell us what else is going to happen, because you don't need to be a sanctuary state.
00:39:01.300 If you have Houston and Dallas and San Antonio and Austin and McAllen and Laredo and El Paso, right, and Lubbock and Tyler, if they're all sanctuary cities, hell, it's better than me.
00:39:13.220 You know, the sanctuary state's just another handle.
00:39:17.800 You've actually got these concentrated populations of illegal aliens, and now they know they can go there and nobody can touch them and they can live off city services, sir.
00:39:29.480 Well, the other thing I'm watching, yeah, is, look, Houston has an activist crowd. 0.92
00:39:35.800 They are anti-ice.
00:39:36.880 We saw what happens in cities where the police departments are not allowed to protect ice while they're doing their operations.
00:39:47.060 Houston, as far as I'm concerned, and Houston PD had been allowed to accompany ICE.
00:39:52.420 They were participating in, you know, protection operations and, you know, crowd control.
00:39:59.260 They were doing their part.
00:40:03.640 Now, granted, they may not have wanted to do it, but it doesn't matter.
00:40:06.780 Cops help cops.
00:40:08.480 That's just a thing.
00:40:09.680 But we saw what happened in Minnesota and Chicago and other places where the cops didn't help cops.
00:40:15.380 So the thing that I'm watching for is whether this will embolden the activists to go attack ICE now in Houston, knowing that they're not going to have anybody having their backs and that they'll have to come in and protect themselves or stop operations, which I think would probably be their goal.
00:40:36.260 So I'll be watching that most of all. 0.97
00:40:39.260 Can't the governor, this is the whole issue we've had with the governor calling an emergency session of the legislature to take away some of the tyrannical emergency powers of the governor, which we know the new governor, she's a radical when it comes to this.
00:40:53.440 Isn't there anything about Houston that Governor Abbott can do immediately?
00:40:56.960 if there is i'm not aware of it because uh look the it's actually the lieutenant governor has
00:41:04.940 more power has has a lot of power uh here in texas even maybe more than the uh the governor
00:41:12.280 constitutionally uh and the lieutenant governor that's coming in is really just this open borders
00:41:20.620 wide open borders anti-ice i mean these are people that are that were attending rallies and
00:41:26.240 And they were the main speakers at anti-ice rallies in around the state.
00:41:31.420 They have said that the governor and the lieutenant governor said not on my watch.
00:41:36.680 There will be no ice operations, no cooperation anywhere for ice operations.
00:41:42.320 That Houston mayor, by the way, heard that loud and clear and understood what it meant for him.
00:41:48.340 So he's he's going to be out of that as fast as he can and and probably will see more follow.
00:41:53.860 But you're right. Houston is a particularly problematic crime issue because you have a lot of people speaking Spanish coming in from Mexico and Central America living there who are illegal, who are going to be relying on the state to leave them alone in lots of different ways. 0.55
00:42:21.140 driver's licenses uh lots of different ways okay uh todd hangar for one second i'm gonna hold you
00:42:30.340 we're talking about stephen miller more mccabe's gonna join us monster events today huge events
00:42:36.740 suzy wiles is out stephen miller are hardcore uh idy log uh somebody's been with president
00:42:43.460 trump for a long time not simply maga but the immigration with jeff sessions for years was
00:42:49.460 It was the mastermind of so much of the so much of the legislation that stopped open borders, that stopped amnesty.
00:42:57.040 And now that we're going to be jammed up by an amnesty bill in they're coming in the lame duck, just a perfect pick.
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00:45:22.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:29.320 Todd Benzman, you're just out with a new piece, quite prescient.
00:45:33.500 It's about Texas and Texas going blue with some people who are pretty smart to have thought this through.
00:45:38.860 Give it to me.
00:45:41.040 Yeah, it's up on the Daily Signal. Is Texas next sanctuary state? I'm going to go ahead and call it that it probably is the next sanctuary state.
00:45:53.100 And what's at stake, and I write this up in my piece, is Operation Lone Star, $6.5 billion Texas DPS and National Guard at the border working closely with CBP, with DOW down there to sew up that really complicated border, geographically difficult border.
00:46:16.380 They're needed down there. The piece has, you know, former Border Patrol, Chief Border Patrol, Mike Banks quoted in it.
00:46:25.560 I've got people really talking to people for the last few days that are in and out of government about how important the Texas DPS part of this is.
00:46:36.120 And I think that it's very likely that the new governor and the lieutenant governor are going to pull all of DPS resources or most of it or a good chunk of it off that border.
00:46:47.740 They spent their careers, their political careers in the state legislature condemning Operation Lone Star, trying to defund it, trying to reduce funding, complaining about it.
00:46:59.260 They hate Operation Lone Star.
00:47:02.000 CBP loves it, of course, because they've got helicopters, they've got resources, troopers, guys that are well-trained, they've got SWAT teams.
00:47:11.000 They are very involved in sewing up that longest state border of all the states, 1,254 miles.
00:47:19.340 And they're probably going to pull that resource.
00:47:23.560 And one thing that I was told by a high-ranking person in DHS is that they're so freaked out about losing these Texas resources that they have ordered up a plan to deal with a worst-case scenario when they do lose Texas resources.
00:47:42.720 They're going to have to come up.
00:47:43.500 They're going to have to pivot.
00:47:45.220 And I also argue that – yeah.
00:47:48.300 Go ahead.
00:47:49.000 No, go ahead.
00:47:49.520 I also argue that the feds are probably going to hold the line pretty well in Texas like they do in California and Arizona, but because Texas is such a complicated border and such a long one, no doubt far more drug smugglers, far more people are going to get in, get through and pass them and into the interior.
00:48:11.380 And what happens in Texas happens to the United States because they're going to go to all 50 states.
00:48:17.280 so we allowed california illinois new york and others minnesota to become sanctuary states with
00:48:28.700 sanctuary cities it can't happen in texas or you're not going to have a republic so this is
00:48:33.300 where the battle line is drawn that's why miller's such an important hire right now you can't allow
00:48:39.520 it to happen just can't if you do you're not going to have a country i don't care about the electoral
00:48:44.460 college and just winning the 2020 election and presidential elections, you're not going to have
00:48:48.820 a country. You're not going to have a country. That is what this means. And we've talked about
00:48:58.720 it. And Todd Benzman said, he says, hey, wait, wait till they start doing it. The mayor of Houston
00:49:04.320 today began the process of basically telling the cops, the police, no more ice. We're going to
00:49:10.540 begin the healing. No more ice. The beginning of Houston, as big a mess as that is, particularly
00:49:17.420 post-Katrina, as big a mess as that is, in a cartel center, now a sanctuary city.
00:49:25.380 Just embrace that. Benzman, where do they get this piece? Where do they get your social media?
00:49:28.940 I'll talk to you after the show. Love to get you back on tomorrow. We'll figure it. You've been
00:49:32.560 the tip of the spear on this, sir. Where do people go? Yeah, thanks for having me. That's up at the
00:49:38.660 Daily Signal, I work for Heritage Foundation.
00:49:43.260 They've got a page over there where all my stuff is.
00:49:46.400 You can find me at BenzmanTodd on X.
00:49:49.920 I'm putting stuff up there all the time.
00:49:51.860 ToddBenzman.com is my historic body of work all there.
00:50:00.020 Thank you, sir.
00:50:00.920 Neil McKay, you've got some reports now of something going on from the White House.
00:50:08.660 Yeah. Well, I just want to make the point that that Stephen Miller was fantastic when he joined the Trump campaign.
00:50:17.220 You could feel it in the speeches. You could feel in the campaign.
00:50:20.920 And so the White House, you know, Monday, we're going to figure out how this thing settles.
00:50:26.060 And remember, Tuesday, John Thune is going up to be to remain the leader in the Senate for Republicans.
00:50:33.060 Stephen Miller has been highly critical of John Thune,
00:50:36.580 especially with the Save America Act and the failure of Senate Republicans to get that done.
00:50:41.180 And also, the Republican Republicans are electing their new leader on Tuesday.
00:50:46.380 I suspect that Stephen Miller will be involved in that.
00:50:50.820 It's a big F you to Republican establishment.
00:50:52.920 McCabe, your social media, so people can follow you overnight if anything happens before tomorrow's show.
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00:51:05.180 outstanding columns and some news about bruce blakeman and his attacks on elise stefanik
00:51:11.980 interesting fascinating thank you sir talk to you tonight see you tomorrow
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00:52:20.620 tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
00:52:22.440 And trust me, with Miller coming in, everything
00:52:24.200 going on, the sanctuary cities, the fight for
00:52:26.260 Texas, everything, including
00:52:28.520 there is supposedly
00:52:30.520 rumor has it there's going to be
00:52:32.320 some announcement about Iran
00:52:34.300 about 8.30 a.m.
00:52:36.340 tomorrow morning. Tentatively, I'm passing
00:52:38.360 on just what I'm hearing.
00:52:40.180 Sources will have more on that, and I'll be up
00:52:42.360 in the getter tonight with any
00:52:44.100 new announcements.
00:52:46.720 We're going to let you listen to the
00:52:48.140 Acoustic Version, and may God bless America.
00:52:49.940 Hunter, we'll see you tomorrow morning at 10.
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