WaRoom Battleground EP 476： False Narratives And Ideology Of Hate
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the rise of pro-Russia nationalism and its link to the pro-Ukrainian opposition to Vladimir Putin. We discuss the role of the opposition to pro-Russian foreign policy and the role that pro-Ukrainian nationalism plays in pro-Western politics.
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perhaps predictable reaction against the forces of globalization that swept through us during the
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80s and 90s but left and the orts perhaps but left people behind and so you had a conglomeration of
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people who felt that they hadn't benefited from globalization you saw this spread of inequality
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in europe and in the united states and this is a kickback against that with charismatic leaders
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who say look i'm out for you i'm out for the little guy whether you are from the left or from
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the right doesn't matter it's the little guy against the big guys the little guy against the
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establishment that is a common thread and there are three things that unite this movement you know
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across countries it is a hostility to trade a feeling that globalization has gone too far it's a
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hostility to migration and a feeling that there's too much uh mixing particularly the irregular kind
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and a fear also of the hegemonic left and what that's become it almost came after nafta here in
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the united states the reaction the the anti-globalist beginnings of that and the irony is that you
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hear from agricultural people farmers as well as big agriculture and big big business that they need
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migration they need labor we're developing a labor shortage here actually in the united states
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but the border the border issue is certainly an immigration issue has the most compelling force
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behind it it doesn't make economic sense what's so fascinating is how is it gets tied up with the
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pro-russia thing because i understand the migration thing i understand the nationalism i understand you
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know the people have got left behind but i don't really get the bit about where this gets tied in
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with well that makes us supporters of i mean putin has started to this by presenting himself as a defender
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of traditional civilization right christianity orthodox in his case but anti-lgbtq rights anti-transgenderism
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anti-decadence of the west and he's made common cause with a part of the american political system
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that otherwise in the past was very anti-russia when russia was perceived to be left as a communist nation
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now putin is doing it from the other side on the ultra-right and he is making common cause in europe with
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uh the various right-wing uh parties there through this cultural war in fact he's doing the same thing
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we hear in our own domestic politics yeah for a bit of it just seems as though only donald trump
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could have energized this pro-putin part of the republican establishment it's so counterintuitive
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i mean putin is demonized for very good reasons and maybe the navalny murder clearly
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they think is a murder came out on the stage in munich and you know galvanized
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the whole conference now today she was on his youtube channel and saying that indicating she's
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ready to take the torch and continue his work talk to me about the significance of that
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well it's obviously the thing she has to do i i saw her the day before her husband was killed in munich
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i was there with you andre when she spoke to the to the group it was electrifying you saw how strong
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she is uh she's the obvious candidate to lead this charge but if she were on this show with us right
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now you know what she'd be talking about she'd be talking about what you all just were talking about
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this aid bill to ukraine uh putin is a killer putin killed her husband and every day he is killing
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people on the ukrainian battlefield and if we want to stop that if we want to fight evil
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that's the word she would use uh you have to do something and it's hard for her she doesn't know
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what to do but members of congress have something right in front of them that they can do it's right
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there they can help stop the killing of putin's war machine um and i too met with members of congress
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in munich uh and again they are self-selected like jonathan said uh but this is a moment this is a
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historic moment if they don't pass this historians will write about them like the american firsters
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in 1940 who said oh aid to great britain won't matter uh this is not our war they look very bad
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in retrospect in that position and i think they have to take the initiative now and i have one
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concrete solution andrea i'm going to reveal it here on your show right now they need cover just like
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you said speaker johnson needs some cover you just can't roll over here's an idea there's something
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called the repo act that is passed out of with overwhelming majorities from both the senate and
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the houses it basically takes the frozen russian assets that we have and it gives it to the ukrainians
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uh sponsored by senator reach republican and congressman mccall republican in the house
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marry that to this bill and then speaker johnson can say to the people sitting behind jonathan where
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he is right now i know them they're not all thrilled about this there's a debate within the
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biden administration as to whether this is a good idea i think it's the right idea put them together
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and then speaker johnson and his colleagues can say we forced the biden administration to give over
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these billions of dollars of russian assets it's a win-win and it's right before them they could do it
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right now and in fact i was going to ask you about that because i was talking to senator sheldon
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whitehouse and he was suggesting that very thing so are republicans lindsey graham would go a step
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farther and i think so would whitehouse i talked to him about this designated russia as a state sponsor
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of terror due to them what we do to iran and north korea and cuba without real okay yeah let me have
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it thanks uh it is president's day uh monday 19 february year of alert 2024 thank you very much for
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the uh your second hour we do a late afternoon early evening hour edition of the war room to
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catch you up with everything that's going on through the day and prepare you for tomorrow so
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you're betters the elites in this country are sitting there and they're now on dangerous territory
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they're so obsessed obsessed with two things number one they're obsessed with the rise of the
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political right throughout the world they don't know how to handle it they don't know how to think
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about it they don't know how to address it it's um it scared them to their bone they tried to dismiss
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it they tried to dismiss brexit they tried to dismiss trump beforehand then when they won they try to
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take away brexit you know not execute on it they have um you know tried to defeat trump and nullify
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his election from the beginning they stole the second election from him now a usurper sits in uh 1600
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pentrovania avenue has brought this a nation to ruin with 10 million they've they've worked through a plan
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a perfect plan to have this country invaded in broad daylight and to have you pay for it to have you pay for
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your own destruction and i hope the african african-american community in this country and
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hispanic citizens in this country understand they're doing it it's the replacement theory is for
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you they're not replacing harvard mbas they're not replacing uh middle managers on this one they're
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not replacing uh white collar workers they're replacing you they think you're the problem your wages are too
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high remember that the federal reserve and the treasury this is why they're doing it also for
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additional consumer markets and for voters it's the trifecta they get they get all of it
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the wall street journal the evil wall street journal i can call it that because owned by the evil
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murdochs today you know what they're doing today they're so desperate to sell this money they got to
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get that money for ukraine got to get that money money money money money money money got to get that money
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that they've actually got an article about how hey sending the 60 bayon is really great for the
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american economy making all those weapons making all that ammo as a former naval officer i love weapons
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love ammo got to defend the country have to be strong of course they can't recruit into the woke
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military nobody wants to go in they've missed their targets dramatically so they're not really
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interested in a strong national offense i don't know what they're interested in doing with the
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military that's a topic for another day but it doesn't look good because it's not the military
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that we remember it's got a bunch of suboptimal people in it they're first admit they're dropping
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standards all the time but they got to get that 60 billion over there and they're prepared
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they talk about they have a fetish for the post-war international rules-based order the post-war
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international liberal uh rules-based order rules-based order rules-based order with a hyphen
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between rules and based you got mcfall and he's a guy's thinking big thoughts all the time in ms
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let me say he's a guy with stavridis the rest of that crowd that had been 100 percent wrong on
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everything they've said about this war from the beginning and we have been 100 percent right on
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everything we said about the war since the beginning and that's why folks listen to us
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and look at our analysis and this is why you're hung up in the house of representatives and quite
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frankly you're hung up in the senate where the majority of republican senators voted against it
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with all the pressure coming on them from the arms industry and from mcconnell and the donor class
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so now the post-war the rules-based order crowd the ones that say trump is anarchy and chaos
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you're anarchy and chaos you're xenophobe you're nativists you're the worst people on earth
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just heard it right there the american history will not think right of you
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here's what they're going to do the lawless not the rule of law the rule of lawlessness
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they want to take the russians who bought the trade why they buy the bonds treasury bills because
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that's what used on international trade to make sure you can back up trades make sure you have
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currency there and reserves called your reserves your dollar reserves what do you do you keep them
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money center banks around the world and you keep them in a dollar denominated a dollar denominated
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instrument that would be called a treasury bond or bill a note whatever term that whatever um
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length or duration they bought it and it sits there everybody's got it because guess what the dollar
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is the prime reserve currency so everything's got to be converted into dollars to be transacted
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that's a huge benefit for us one of the benefits is in bad times you can run a deficit
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because people got to buy your bonds and that's how you get that's how you keep the dollars in
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circulation uh of course they didn't realize you and get to 35 trillion and two trillion dollars a
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year and they're sitting there looking at purchasing power and going man oh man these elites in this
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country are crazy and poor maga and poor deplorables they got to suck on it because they're citizens of
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the united states but we ain't we got our own resources so why don't we get those harvard mbas
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that we sent over to harvard and stanford and chicago and sloan and all of them get those hp 12c's and
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let's do some discounted cash flow hello maybe we ought to be buying gold that's where they come to do you
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think it's a coincidence that in 22 23 and now in 24 two years in a row in a third year that the
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central banks of the brics nations which essentially the global south which is uh if you look at it kind
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of also the guys that are fighting the beginning stages of the kinetic part of the third world war
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around the eurasian landmass they're all kind of the same guys oh including some of our allies like
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you allies quote unquote uae in saudi arabia we're all trying to get off the dollar as quickly as
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possible and trying to figure out any basket of assets or resource currencies they can do that
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or resources to back it up and they're going to try to figure out some gold back thing have they got a
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solution not yet are they getting off the dollar altogether not yet are they uh are they going to
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make this move and the dollar is not going to be the prime reserve currency tomorrow morning not yet
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but they got plenty of smart people that are working on it uh yeah and you're going to get a punch in
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the face one day and you're going to be like argentina because you're not going to be able to sell the
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bonds right now we can't sell the bonds we're monetizing the debt we're just printing money
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it's a sick joke so uh i just saw a poll we're under 34 number one is the economy sucks their debt
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got don't have great jobs they're they're on the wheel they got credit card problems all of it
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this all comes from what you vote quote unquote supposedly voted for in 2020 if you wanted baby if
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you're african-american and you want an invasion to take your job destroy your school vote for it
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if you're a hispanic citizen and want your health care destroyed and your community destroyed
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with criminals these these uh central uh asian central american gangs and uh and uh and mexican
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gangs in your neighborhood with lawless crime that you can't stop and your family's being destroyed
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vote for it if you're a kid under 34 years old and you like where you are where you don't anything
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you're nothing but a russia surf then keep voting for it it's a free country and you're free men and
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women vote for it i'm not gonna sit there and beg you for you vote vote for it vote for it hey you
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vote for it i want you no you don't want you to vote for america i don't want you to vote for trump
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we don't want your vote vote for that keep voting for it keep voting for you gonna rub your nose in
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it like a dog and it's crap you keep voting for your own destruction and it's out in the open how
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they're trying to destroy you all you have to do is open your eyes they're destroying you every day
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in every possible way and they they don't hide it there's not conspiracy theory you got to head
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the federal reserve the treasury they talk about it all the time look at my yorkas lindsey graham
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sitting there the thing they're all accusing lindsey graham of being a traitor because lindsey
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graham didn't go to didn't go to munich made a big deal i'm going to the border they're all accusing
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lindsey graham's down the border he says you know i knew that bill would langford negotiate for five
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months for five months for five months you know what lindsey graham said he says i knew it wasn't
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going to kind of work when they didn't have remain in mexico think about this think about all the
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lies everything everybody went through and all weekend and listened to four-hour speeches everything
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like that it didn't even have remain in mexico no come on in baby come on in let's get you on a bus
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let's get you on a plane let's get you as far you want to go to minnesota minneapolis you're going
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want to go to topeka kansas you're going want to go to new york city you're going so if you like
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your life being destroyed please continue to vote for it but if you want to actually change your
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position in life and not have a apparatus an administrative state that has a boot on your
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neck and is destroying you with an invasion of 10 million people to drive wages down or the printing
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of money of two trillion dollar deficits in perpetuity to destroy the currency that you
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work for all the time and drive its purchasing power down and inflation up so that you've got to
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scramble and run and just keep just scramble to keep up and what you don't own any assets you have
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no piece of the action then continue on but i believe you're awakening i see the tectonic plate shift
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and once you awaken the roar of the lion of that of those different demographics is going to be a
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political change like 1932 and back of trump and that's why he's the modern he's going to be the
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modern fdr not his policies and that bringing the country together to take it in a different direction
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a populist nationalist direction and that's why they hate him and hence this is why he must go to prison
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this is why he must be stripped of all his wealth this is why he must be taken off the ballot
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and this ladies and gentlemen is why along with general washington and abraham lincoln
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he is the third individual in the history of this republic whose personal destiny and fate is
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inextricably linked to the fate and destiny of this republic
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and all you've got is your betters who mock and ridicule you every day and who detest the african
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american community and the hispanic citizens in this country because they work against them every day
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and and and to completely detest people under 34 because they don't care at all about what all the
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elites in this country have cared for up until this last generation which is to always look down range
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and always do what's better for future generations and in honor of the people that bequeath this great
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republic to us no totally different now lawless lawless and they're proud about it don't look at
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me it's cut cut msnbc on cnn every night read the new york times read the washington post read it
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the economist read it wall street journal read it don't take it from me they'll put they'll put it
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right up in your grill this is the dilemma we have on president's day in the year of our lord 2024
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now we're going to sort this thing out that's what i want everybody can come to cpac we're gonna have
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a partner's discussion hopefully a lunch and a couple of the contributors we're gonna talk about
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how to you know essentially how to weaponize yourself how's that we'll try to do it with some
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social media we'll have some of the people on our team to do this some other people that work with
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us will come posto is going to be there he's committed to come vish burr is committed to come
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some other people that are very up on social media and can can make sure that if you're a force
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multiplier that you get the most leverage possible grace will be there with bill blast we're going to
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do the whole thing you and plus we're going to go through day by day segment by segment cpac so you
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can get the best from it and of course if you can't make that we'd love for you to make it go to
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come for the wednesday pre-session things are going to be packed all the days we're going to have a group
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uh get together on saturday after it's all over a watch party for south carolina so
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the president's going to speak every all the vice presidents candidates you get to weigh and measure
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and you get to participate in the polls so it's going to be incredible
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also for my whole opening diatribe there make sure you go to birch gold like we've worked a long time
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on the end of the dollar empire it's quite important for you working class people and middle class folks
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it's just not for your betters you have to understand currency you have to understand the
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politics of currency you have to understand the geopolitics of currency putin gave it to now he gave his
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perspective on it but he gave a warning he gave a warning it's a warning that we should
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take to heart i've always said you can weaponize the dollar but baby you got one bullet in the chamber
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and maybe we save that bullet for the chinese congress party and maybe we use it to take them
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down and the free lao bai jing and that would change the direction of the uh of the earth maybe we
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just don't kowtow to the worthless european elites and the elites in europe are totally and completely
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worthless worthless worthless been bumming off and leeching off the good folks in europe for
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everything remember we got kicked out of every decent country over there as bill murray used to
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say right you're the your stock is the dregs that not not everybody i realized some people came from
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some some awfully awfullys but most of them came over in a boat and steerage okay or came over in boats
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not in steerage as slaves that's the united states of america that's the united states of america and
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hey we've made a pretty good go of it so far it's the most powerful country not in the world today but
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the history of the earth now power there's some besides all the politics and geopolitics there's some
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quite dark things happening that are not in the ukraine not simply in the ukraine but on this thing
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called the singularity and what's happening under your your name with your private equity and your tax
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dollars we got a cold open here for d joe allen let's go ahead and let it rip mike benz is we can
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say with some confidence the expert in the world on how this happens it's called natural language
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processing it is a artificial intelligence machine learning ability to create meaning out of words in
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order to map everything that everyone says on the internet and create this vast topography topography
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of how communities are organized online who the major influences are what they're talking about
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what narratives are emerging or trending and to be able to create this sort of network graph
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in order to know who to target and and uh and how information moves through an ecosystem so this
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gave me i call these weapons of mass deletion these are essentially the ability to censor tens of
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millions of posts there's over 60 universities now who get federal government grants to do this
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censorship uh the censorship work and the censorship preparation work where what they do is they create
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these code books of the language that people use the same way they did for isis they did this for
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example with covid they created these these covid lexicons of what dissident groups were saying about
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mandates about masks about vaccines about high profile individuals like tony fauci they broke things down
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into narratives the atlanta council for example was a part of this this government funded consortium
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something called the virality project which which mapped 66 different narratives that dissidents were
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talking about around covid everything from covid origins to vaccine efficacy and then they plugged
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these into these essentially machine learning models to be able to have a constant world heat map
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of what everybody was saying about covid and whenever something started to trend that was bad for what the
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pentagon wanted or was bad for what tony fauci wanted they were able to take down tens of millions of posts
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they did this in the 2020 election with mail-in ballots so you're saying the pentagon our pentagon
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the u.s department of defense censored americans during the 2020 election cycle yes they did the two
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most censored events in human history i would argue to date are the 2020 election and the covid 19 pandemic
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you had this group within the atlanta council and the foreign policy establishment which began arguing in
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2017 for the need for a permanent domestic censorship government office to serve as a quarterback for
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what they called a whole of society counter misinformation counter disinformation alliance
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that just means censorship then they contemplated parking at the cia and they said well actually
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there's two reasons we can't do that cia is foreign facing we can't really establish a
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counterintelligence threat to bring it home domestically also we're going to need essentially tens of thousands
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of people involved in this operation spanning this whole society model you can't really run a clandestine
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operation that way so they said okay well what about the fbi they said well the fbi would be great it's
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domestic but the problem is is the fbi is supposed to be the intelligence arm of the justice department
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and what we're dealing with here are not acts of law breaking and so essentially what they said is
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well the only other domestic intelligence equity we have in the u.s besides the fbi is the dhs
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so we are going to essentially take the cia's power to rig and bribe foreign media organizations
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which is a power they've had since the day they were born in 1947 and we're going to combine that
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with the power with the domestic jurisdiction of the fbi by by putting it at dhs we are looking at
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how we can harness ai to advance our mission to your first question ina and then also defending
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against the adverse use of ai whether that's in the context of disinformation aren't a huge portion
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of the threats facing us people that are no longer guided by facts within our own borders i mean it
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seems to me that domestic terrorism fueled by people who have a different understanding of facts
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to put it mildly is one of the major threats facing the country well one element of it is false
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narratives i was going to say don't they think an election was stolen false narratives but the
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most of the predominant source of that violence is actually ideologies of hate thank you so much
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for coming so at the very top of your twitter feed it says sam altman is a hero of mine we're moving
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very very quickly into these new uncharted areas and there's genuine concerns and i think we can talk
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about them but and the sam altman emerge from this empowered of course much more so so he has much
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more power than from them before how so well his the 49 owner is microsoft they taken the 51 owner
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i believe at some point some sort of global system for what happens with the most powerful of these
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two years away that article's up on the guardian and breitbart's in a great amalgamation of it joe allen's
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you got breitbart the guardian and breitbart are talking about your your guy out there at berkeley
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who i know is a transhumanist but he wants to he's one of the leaders of the luddites i think i'm
00:32:54.300
throwing in with him but what i just saw right there is scaring me more and more and more open ai
00:32:59.900
what the hell's going on here brother and by the way joe allen's going to be there to explain it all
00:33:03.500
to you to make your day you think you got enough problems with the 2020 election of course ben's we
00:33:09.980
had him on this morning he's talking about how they're using all these superpowers to essentially
00:33:15.020
exert mass control of the american people am i incorrect in that joe allen
00:33:21.580
absolutely not steve you know mike ben's uh his interview on tucker carlson was inspirational
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without a doubt so succinct and straight off the top of his head very impressive i also should be
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horrific to anybody who really takes freedom seriously or free speech or any sort of human
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existence whatsoever what i did with that cold open i really wanted the audience anyone who hasn't already
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seen ben's interview or anyone who has seen it and maybe missed those elements to show how
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his uh his expertise in that field of cyber security and the misuses of cyber security to suppress american
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free speech is being tied up with other big tech endeavors uh you know ben's was very clear on
00:34:17.740
who is actually behind the censorship operations the atlantic council uh and then the use of the
00:34:24.460
the department of homeland security because it was a a convenient vehicle for operations that typically
00:34:31.420
would be used for uh you know outward facing organizations like the cia so when we hear my orcas
00:34:39.740
talking about using the power of dhs to suppress disinformation and especially ai generated disinformation
00:34:49.180
i think it's directly related it's especially uh very important as we move into the election cycle
00:34:56.460
there is going to be a flood of deep fakes or other sorts of ai generated material that is going to be
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just like a constant spew of garbage into the public psyche and there are two ways to respond to that the
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one is for voters or for american citizens or for any free citizen to make their own decisions and sift
00:35:20.460
through it as best they can themselves the other is to empower the state to take on that responsibility
00:35:27.020
and that's what my orcas is talking about using the power of the state to suppress ai generated
00:35:33.260
misinformation now we also know that any sort of valid use of state power in that fashion is going to be
00:35:42.620
used for political purposes at this point meaning that all of these power grabs uh around the use
00:35:49.820
of ai generated uh information or just ai in general is going to be used to consolidate state power
00:35:56.540
and as we see big tech working closer and closer with the united states government and governments abroad
00:36:02.380
it appears that it's also going to be a consolidation of power a partnership between the two
00:36:08.540
and so you know in january steve as we were speaking about this morning in january open ai announced
00:36:15.980
that they would be working with the department of defense they announced this at the world economic
00:36:21.180
forum this was right after the intercept had caught a change in their uh their terms and services they
00:36:28.860
had previously said that their products could not be used in warfare or for the military
00:36:34.300
they removed that language announced that they would be partnering with the dod and then uh just
00:36:41.340
under two weeks ago jane's magazine reported that that is going forward that the uh the crata or the
00:36:49.020
cooperative research and development agreement uh would most likely be inked within the next few months
00:36:56.860
they were not sure what the use cases would be but i would speculate on three different realms
00:37:01.980
systems the first the you know the cia and various other intelligence organizations are using large
00:37:07.580
language models to they train them on their classified documents in order to have an expert system that you
00:37:14.460
could go to a sort of assistant and ask it for specific pieces of information and the ai ostensibly
00:37:21.340
would be able to bring it up immediately that may seem innocuous if it's used against you it may not be
00:37:27.900
innocuous the second use case though uh would be for the dissemination of propaganda we know that our
00:37:36.300
intelligence agencies do this regularly uh in foreign countries and that being legal it's also pretty clear
00:37:44.380
that a number of organizations the intelligence agencies and beyond use that on the american populace
00:37:51.100
now open ai is famous for chat gpt chat gpt basically is a bot that will spew out any sort of narrative
00:37:59.980
that it can be cajoled into spewing out the second is dolly dolly 2 dolly 3 image generation the third
00:38:08.540
which we've been reporting on the last week sora text to video ai generation so what that means at least in
00:38:17.420
my own speculation is that at least one possible use case for the the open ai department of defense
00:38:27.180
partnership one use case for their systems would be the creation and dissemination of fake videos uh they
00:38:35.420
would never of course own up to this uh but clandestine uh operations uh are obviously uh they they
00:38:42.940
traffic in this sort of uh behavior on the regular so i just in short steve i think that it's really
00:38:49.180
important to remember the open ai is not just a company it's not just a company that's creating
00:38:54.540
a small assistant to help you write your emails or organize your calendar or create graphics and video
00:39:00.380
for your your your upcoming pta meeting open ai is now becoming part of that military industrial
00:39:08.220
complex which exerted its power during covid which exerted its power uh after the 2020 election
00:39:15.420
and i think that it should be viewed as such it is no longer simply a tech company like all the other
00:39:21.660
big tech companies is companies it is now a partner to our military industrial complex
00:39:28.540
unbelievable uh you're gonna be there on wednesday with us everybody get to meet joe but joe's gonna hang
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out also throughout cpac do book signings talk to you about dark aeon and all the updates joe social
00:39:38.540
media where do people get you you can find me at joe b-o-t-x-y-z find my work war room.org under
00:39:45.500
the transhumanism tab you can find my book dark eon transhumanism and the war against humanity
00:39:50.940
anywhere books are sold i recommend bookshop.org thank you very much steve fantastic report great cold
00:39:58.140
open let's go to james ragusky james has been has done this amazing job of reminding us about our
00:40:05.020
sovereignty and the who and this treaty and the amendments and all that it gets a little confusing
00:40:09.260
james give us an update because you're saying that you're seeing the dark hand we've got the
00:40:13.660
military industrial complex on one side we have the biopharma medical uh complex on the other
00:40:20.300
just as powerful what's going on with who in this treaty and the amendment sir
00:40:24.940
well you know for the last two years i've been reporting on this and what has apparently been
00:40:31.420
happening is the two different documents have served to confuse the minds of the people who
00:40:39.020
are talking about it and quite often when people are talking about the details that are in the
00:40:45.260
amendments to the existing international health regulations they've been attributing that to what
00:40:51.180
most people call the treaty well i want to um give you a little test on on your constitution uh you know
00:40:57.820
article one section eight clause three gives congress uh the the power to regulate commerce with foreign
00:41:07.260
nations what i've been saying since november of 2022 is that this is a grand and glorious trade dispute
00:41:17.100
and the federal government is pushing to have these agreements go through and it's started when the
00:41:27.020
relatively poor nations of the world said well wait a minute we're not getting as many jabs as the wealthy
00:41:34.940
nation they called for a special session of the world health assembly all the way back in december of
00:41:42.540
2021 and what these negotiations are is to settle a trade dispute to ensure equitable access to pandemic
00:41:54.220
related products the nations who didn't get as many jabs want investment they want intellectual property
00:42:02.620
they want manufacturing know-how and they want to set up what they call pabs p-a-b-s it's a pathogen access
00:42:12.460
and benefit sharing system now a lot of words that get a lot of people confused but what that means
00:42:20.140
is that in today's world genomic sequences from pathogens are a very valuable commodity if you can
00:42:29.980
remember back to when south africa and botswana identified the omicron variant they did what they felt they
00:42:38.300
were obligated to do according to the international health regulations and they shared that genetic
00:42:43.420
information with the world but what happened was they were greeted with travel restrictions which hurt
00:42:50.300
their economy and is in violation of the international health regulations but then pfizer and moderna took that
00:42:56.460
information turned it into the boosters and made a couple of more billion dollars so what we're dealing
00:43:03.020
with here is a lot of confusion because there's a lot of language in one track the amendments to the
00:43:10.700
international health regulations i'll talk about that in a minute but that information has unfortunately
00:43:17.580
been attributed to what most people call the treaty which is really just a big trade dispute now i've
00:43:25.340
put out a dozen different things that are going on with what they want to set up
00:43:31.020
most importantly is that it's not really a treaty it's a framework convention now if you recall in 92
00:43:39.980
the senate did give two-thirds consent to the framework convention for climate change the danger with the
00:43:49.100
framework convention is they don't have to settle on all of the details when they sign on to it like
00:43:55.020
congress did in 92 they could pretty much sign a blank agreement and then there would
00:43:59.980
be meeting year after year they would have a conference of the parties set up a whole new
00:44:05.100
bureaucracy they've got at least 10 committees that they want to set up to meet on a yearly basis to
00:44:11.820
essentially distribute tens of billions of dollars into what i call the pharmaceutical hospital emergency
00:44:19.500
industrial complex to build out big pharma in low and middle income nations because they missed out on
00:44:28.140
the jabs the first time around so it's not necessarily the case that they're coming
00:44:33.180
for us because three quarters of americans in the western world got jabbed they're just coming for our
00:44:39.100
money they want investment but what about what but hang but but but what what about this we got to
00:44:45.100
bounce in a second i want to get a couple of minutes but what about everybody saying that they're setting
00:44:48.620
up for the the glide path for what they call disease x so next time we don't have the the sovereignty even to try to
00:44:55.980
fight it you're answering to geneva is that off track is this you're making this sound more like this
00:45:00.540
is tpp which we can defeat and less like a grab for our nation sovereignty and our individual citizen
00:45:07.580
sovereignty people have gotten the information that came out of the amendments confused with what's in
00:45:16.620
the framework convention slash treaty and you are absolutely right steve we talked about this a little bit
00:45:22.780
before you know we're on air here this is very similar to the trans-pacific partnership which as you
00:45:29.500
recall when people found out about it and realized what it was it was you know just a universal oh hell
00:45:37.580
no now it you know the the final nail in the coffin was essentially when trump got into office and unsigned
00:45:44.780
it but it was political poison to even talk about you know trying to support it after the
00:45:52.380
people learned what it really was and all i'm really advocating i i got access to uh the latest document
00:46:00.860
over the weekend i've published it and i encourage people i i have every faith that every single one of
00:46:07.580
your viewers has the capacity to read these documents and see them for the corruption that they have in
00:46:15.660
them this is just a big ploy to get a lot of money to build out the industry that was used to fear
00:46:24.140
everybody last four years we stopped tpp we can stop the pandemic treaty i have no doubt we took we
00:46:31.820
stopped tpp really in the 16 campaign and then immediately after president trump won james people
00:46:37.580
got to get up to speed on all this where do they go to look at all your analysis all your breakdown between the
00:46:42.620
the underlying treaty and the amendments where do they go it's all on jamesrogusky.substack.com
00:46:49.260
that's j-a-m-e-s-r-o-g-u-s-k-i.substack.com um don'tyoudare.info is an old link so don't go there
00:46:57.980
um but my phone number is available to everybody you can call me at 310-619-3055 go to jamesrogusky.substack.com
00:47:08.460
call james he'll take the call and he'll walk you through it we gotta we want to make sure that
00:47:14.220
we're on top of this they get back together is it uh i gotta bounce but they get back together in may
00:47:18.460
is that when they come back for this thing uh i gave your producer a calendar they're meeting right now
00:47:24.780
for negotiations and all through the end of february to the end of march and then they have
00:47:31.200
another meetings in april and they hope to have their final meeting uh at the end of may so you know
00:47:36.720
it's crunch time right now they've got six solid weeks of negotiations in front of us
00:47:40.320
yeah which i'm sure the americans will be over there bowing down to big pharma and to uh geneva
00:47:46.860
if i know the abiding american delegation james thank you so much fantastic work you're on top
00:47:52.800
of this one like nobody else thanks brother take care let's get everybody go over there and take a
00:47:57.640
look tonight we got to get on top of this because this is crunch time and i'm sure i know the biden
00:48:02.200
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