Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground 215： The Rising Threat Of China

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:20.240 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:27.200 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:33.040 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:37.760 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:42.080 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground

00:00:48.720 here's your host stephen k bannon

00:00:55.600 china is buying up our country while corrupt democrats and rhino type politicians in washington 1.00

00:01:02.720 have been spending trillions of dollars on the green new deal nonsense foolish foreign wars and 0.93

00:01:09.120 providing lavish benefits to illegal aliens from all over the planet china has been spending trillions of

00:01:15.760 dollars to take over the crown jewels of the united states economy and they are doing that china is 0.98

00:01:22.800 buying up our technology they're buying up food supplies they're buying up our farmland they're

00:01:29.680 buying up our minerals and natural resources they're buying up our ports and shipping terminals

00:01:35.840 and with the help of a corrupt influence peddlers like the biden crime family china is even trying to 0.53

00:01:42.800 buy up the pillars of the u.s energy industry because frankly biden and the group don't care about

00:01:50.640 real energy they only care about nonsense energy energy that doesn't work and it never will while some

00:01:58.880 are focused on china's purchases near power plants and military bases the fact is we should be very

00:02:06.240 concerned about all chinese communist activity in the united states as i have long said economic security

00:02:14.160 is national security china does not allow american companies to take over their critical infrastructure

00:02:21.360 and america should not allow china to take over our critical infrastructure i didn't allow it when i was 1.00

00:02:29.760 president and i won't allow it when we become president again to protect our country we need to enact

00:02:37.520 aggressive new restrictions on chinese ownership of any vital infrastructure in the united states

00:02:43.920 including energy technology telecommunications farmland natural resources medical supplies and other

00:02:51.680 strategic national assets we should stop all future chinese purchases in these essential industries 0.79

00:02:59.280 and we should begin the process of forcing the chinese to sell any current holdings that put our

00:03:05.360 national security at risk if we don't do this the united states will be owned by china which would 1.00

00:03:11.600 make them very happy when i'm president i will ensure that america's future remains firmly in american hands

00:03:20.320 just as i did when i was president before it'll happen again and our country will be stronger than ever

00:03:28.160 he has built his political career on promises of honesty hard work and a pledge that a family name means

00:03:43.760 something i give you my word as a biden i give you my word as a biden but while joe biden swears by his

00:03:49.760 name in politics his son and two brothers spent years trying to benefit from the biden name it's all now the

00:03:56.960 focus of a republican-led congressional investigation we want to know what the biden administration is

00:04:02.000 trying to hide from the american people and why they are not being transparent republican congressman

00:04:06.560 james comer now chairs the house oversight committee and has set his sights on joe biden's son hunter

00:04:13.280 a mysterious laptop now in the hands of the fbi and long-held conspiracy theories about president joe biden

00:04:20.640 and what he does or doesn't know i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone

00:04:27.680 else anything having to do with their businesses period despite his denials a cnn review of the

00:04:34.480 laptop data as well as other public material shows that joe biden did interact with some of his son's

00:04:40.560 associates while serving as vice president though it's unclear exactly what was discussed one example the

00:04:47.360 republican site miguel allemand magnani a mexican businessman and son of the former president

00:04:53.600 who hunter was trying to woo in 2014 allemand magnani and his dad were photographed at the white

00:04:59.680 house with then vice president biden in a later email hunter biden reminds allemand magnani of the

00:05:06.080 favors he's done for him we have been talking about business deals and partnerships for seven years

00:05:11.840 i have brought every single person you have ever asked me to bring to the effing white house and

00:05:16.880 the vice president's house and the inauguration hunter biden bluntly acknowledged the power of

00:05:22.480 the biden name in a memoir writing that the ukrainian energy company burisma which put him on its board

00:05:28.480 considered my last name gold i don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened

00:05:32.880 in my life that uh that if my last name wasn't biden joe biden's brothers have repeatedly

00:05:38.080 referenced him in their private dealings frank biden a developer of for-profit charter schools

00:05:43.360 has invoked his brother in trying to convince local officials to approve his projects like in

00:05:48.960 sunrise florida where he told the city in 2015 to trust his venture not because of frank

00:05:56.160 but because of the honor of being the brother of a guy i think we all know and love in 2021 at a

00:06:02.880 gathering of medical professionals he made this pledge the bully pulpit that i have as a result of

00:06:09.280 the privilege of being associated with with my brother joey and i'll do everything in my power to support

00:06:16.960 you to get the job done to get federal dollars to your research frank biden told cnn there has been

00:06:25.040 zero interaction between his brother's public office and his private business adding do i engage in any

00:06:31.680 way in quid pro quo on any level absolutely not the last name gave credibility you know initially

00:06:38.240 healthcare entrepreneur michael frey told cnn joe biden's other brother james broke financial

00:06:43.600 promises he made while referencing the biden name frey's company filed a lawsuit alleging fraud by james

00:06:50.400 biden who denied the claims frey spoke to cnn before the lawsuit settled in 2020 everything was on the

00:06:56.960 biden name and and so we took that to heart james biden was also named in a lawsuit filed in july

00:07:03.440 he allegedly received about six hundred thousand dollars in 2018 this goes on welcome it's wednesday

00:07:09.920 18 january year of our lord 2023 goes on for a couple more minutes but i think you get the drift

00:07:15.440 um today uh very unusual first hour we talked about the uh big win we got in standing up uh this audience

00:07:23.920 having the back of of the 20 and the magnificent six and now the committees are starting to be

00:07:30.240 um you know peopled with slotted with hardcore fighters particularly the key investigative

00:07:37.760 committees and then we've had the president just come out uh today and jack posobiec over at human

00:07:44.240 events and the turning point had the exclusive and put that video out which is quite frankly magnificent

00:07:49.280 so i wanted to get three people that are that are called pipe hitters we got natalie winters 1.00

00:07:53.760 our lead of course our executive editor but the lead investigator report i think the top in the city

00:07:58.560 we got dave brad who served in congress and knows exactly how these things rolls and he's got some

00:08:03.120 got some new data on china and of course dr bradley thayer lee hood and we'll play that clip from lee

00:08:08.320 hood the chinese are trying to say oh hang on hang on we we really want to be organized we really want

00:08:13.120 to be integrated back into the globalization system they're over at davos right now with a totally different

00:08:18.160 take i want to go to natalie first natalie you more than anybody have spent a time going through

00:08:24.240 the receipts going i mean digging down into the into the into the real a connective tissue of emails

00:08:31.040 and text messages bank records and and you know federal register you spend your saturday nights

00:08:36.640 i tell everybody if they if you call natalie she won't say i'm washing my hair she says i'm going to

00:08:40.960 a federal register of grants you've seen more than anything i want to connect president trump's today

00:08:47.760 about the dangers of the ccp and his point of view of how you know america has to has to unwind this 0.62

00:08:55.440 influence peddling that's going on versus the biden crime family from your perspective natalie winners

00:09:02.480 sure well everything that trump says is spot on though i disagree with his quote of america will be

00:09:08.960 owned by the chinese communist party if we don't you know turn around yesterday because i think

00:09:13.840 unfortunately the writing on the wall is that we already are um in the perfect textbook example of

00:09:20.400 that um is the case of the biden family you know years years down the road when textbooks are written

00:09:26.640 about what managed decline looks like and who sold out this country um hunter biden will be that example

00:09:33.440 will be the glowing the glaring example of how american elites have leveraged really every corner of america

00:09:40.000 as trump lists right from the pharmaceutical companies to ppe to farmland uh to our schools

00:09:46.480 to our think tanks all the way up to 1600 pennsylvania avenue really have been annexed by the chinese

00:09:53.120 communist party um through really the tactic of infiltration as opposed to invasion right the white

00:09:59.760 house doesn't have to fly the chinese flag uh for the policies that come out of that building and the

00:10:06.080 the biden regime to really be totally in line with the desires of beijing um the hunter biden you know

00:10:13.840 tale uh really i think speaks to how the chinese communist party seeks to target what i would call

00:10:20.560 kind of the achilles heel of america right the weak people within america's ruling class who can either be

00:10:26.560 bought out by money by business deals by power by greed um and in the case of the biden family we've just

00:10:33.440 been fortunate enough and thanks to cnn uh for confirming it a few years late but still nonetheless

00:10:39.920 uh we can really see kind of the inner workings the belly of the beast as to how this operation this

00:10:45.920 crime this criminal racket really works in terms of leveraging um a politically powerful name like the

00:10:52.640 biden family um and i think the point here and it dovetails perfectly with what's going on in davos right

00:10:58.640 now it's not the chinese communist party acting alone right it's the chinese communist party acting

00:11:04.880 in tandem with sort of this globalist economic model um being championed by not just big government

00:11:11.360 right remember when the the old slogan used to be big government sucks right we were so naive then

00:11:16.560 because it's not just big government it's a fusion of the private and public sectors really modeled after

00:11:22.080 what we see going on in china right whether you're talking about social credit scores state surveillance uh

00:11:28.080 these pcr tests right the weaponization of all these little bits whether it's you know if you

00:11:32.720 got a coveted vaccine if you tested positive for the virus then being leveraged and really being used

00:11:38.320 as a tool to prevent you from accessing other aspects of your day-to-day life so that's really

00:11:43.920 the model that they seek to implement um and i mean frankly people like the biden family right

00:11:50.400 someone like hunter biden they're a lot easier to compromise right it's a lot easier to get them to sell

00:11:55.760 out when they have no principles of their own i know you infamously remarked that it was like

00:12:00.720 hunter biden was raised by a pack of wild dogs but really this lack of morality this just i think

00:12:07.680 really hatred for america and not wanting to preserve this country is how the chinese communist party thrives

00:12:13.520 because it's a lot easier to get elites all the way from the white house all the way down to lower

00:12:18.400 levels of government to sell out if they have no allegiance to this country and for anyone who doubts

00:12:23.360 the salience of chinese communist party influence operations here in the united states they have

00:12:28.880 specifically curated trips to china that that chinese communist party influence groups subsidize

00:12:35.360 all the way down for low-level congressional staffers who work on the hill republican and democrats so i can

00:12:42.160 i can tell you this the chinese communist party is going after hill staffers right the people who are

00:12:46.880 running the social media accounts of the democratic and republican congressmen you know those posts that you

00:12:52.000 see the chinese communist party is trying to compromise them and successfully so and they're

00:12:56.880 going after everyone they're going after the hill staffers the members themselves academia think

00:13:02.240 tanks k-12 classrooms everyone and unfortunately so many americans really i think at the core don't

00:13:09.600 really care about preserving america and really just see it as a financial opportunity to sell out this

00:13:14.400 country uh on the way down and that is how you get the birth of managed decline you've done uh tremendous

00:13:22.400 work where you had to go down like four and five layers and and pull things apart and connect dots and

00:13:27.200 and and and to to see what the relationships are in the connective tissue so what does it tell us about

00:13:34.400 our country's elites that some of what you a lot of what you do particularly relate to the biden's and and

00:13:40.240 others is uh it's kind of up in your grill i mean you have to do your digging because you always like

00:13:46.960 to have the the footnotes that connect all the dots but in for instance the ccp what we now call the ccp

00:13:54.160 pen biden center in in or other things related to the laptop from hell the biden's were not shy

00:14:02.240 i mean they were just brazen it was there was a definite ask but the chinese didn't try to cover their 1.00

00:14:07.920 tracks either i think i i don't know if it's that they think our elites are so craven right or they

00:14:14.640 understand what managed decline is they see they see a decline of a country and just they're just

00:14:18.960 going to go ahead and feed the elites as much as they can but but talk about the by the biden's have

00:14:23.440 been they're not in the cnn piece talked about there's pretty brazen there where they're talking

00:14:28.400 about health care things or charter schools but in regards to our greatest enemy probably the

00:14:33.520 greatest enemy this republic's ever had a true existential threat they're pretty brazen about

00:14:38.400 how they go about it is it what are your thoughts on that ma'am well i think the evidence-based answer

00:14:44.960 to that question um and it's actually what i think i talked about the first time i ever came on war room

00:14:49.760 was it all goes back to the media um in the mainstream media these trips that i was talking

00:14:54.960 about how they pay for people to go overseas to china really the number one target uh that the chinese 1.00

00:15:00.320 communist party goes after in the united states is the media is the mainstream media is these

00:15:05.360 journalists because they know if they can get the media to not report on certain issues right

00:15:10.000 whether lies of omission or purposely portray certain issues through a different light right it's very

00:15:14.960 rare that you ever hear the mainstream media really say the words chinese communist party uh let alone

00:15:20.080 refer to them as an existential threat or enemy oftentimes it's you know competitor or partner um but

00:15:25.920 they've really gone after the media because they know that that kind of provides them insulation and

00:15:30.560 insurance um from having any of their nefarious doings ever be exposed so that's why they've

00:15:36.480 really really really charmed journalists from all outlets i've done previous reporting on this from

00:15:41.600 the wall street journal to msnbc to mbc to cnn to newsweek uh you name it so that's sort of the short

00:15:48.480 answer as to why it's so in your face because they think they can get away with it and nine times out of ten

00:15:54.400 uh they can but i think the other reason why they get away with it and to go anecdotal and speaking

00:15:59.760 about the pen biden center pen which received obviously a lot of money from the chinese communist

00:16:05.520 party and by a lot i think i mean over 70 million dollars in the course of just a few years um the

00:16:11.440 university of pennsylvania was really instrumental in lobbying the biden regime to drop the trump era

00:16:18.160 quote china initiative which was a doj uh led effort to really root out this chinese communist 0.96

00:16:24.560 party influence primarily in academia but also think tanks really kind of the country writ large

00:16:30.240 so it's an example of what trump was talking about in that clip um but like i said upenn along with some

00:16:36.240 other universities like stanford which is where the infamous pamela carlin used to teach uh the person 1.00

00:16:42.080 who was going after the election audits and in arizona but these universities were instrumental

00:16:47.760 in lobbying the biden regime to drop the china initiative which they ultimately did so my point

00:16:53.040 in all that is that the chinese communist party finds these achilles heels like i said these institutions

00:16:59.120 that they can compromise to sort of annex and have them run cover just like we've learned that these

00:17:04.400 social media companies and the intelligence agencies have been playing the praetorian guard

00:17:08.880 um for the american ruling class the chinese communist party is cultivating their own praetorian guard

00:17:14.800 uh through you know multi multi multi multi-million dollar donations so they know that it's unlikely

00:17:20.560 that penn is going to come out and say hey actually the chinese communist party was giving us tons of

00:17:25.680 millions of dollars and you know a textbook quid pro quo uh silencing academic freedom getting us to push

00:17:31.520 out chinese communist party propaganda um because all the people who are getting money from them are just that

00:17:37.120 getting money from them you know it was a harvard center not too long ago that was also funded by

00:17:41.920 the chinese communist party they were dumb enough to actually disclose it and they were the ones who put 0.95

00:17:46.960 out a study that said that the chinese communist party had an approval rating of upwards of 90 percent 0.83

00:17:52.880 during the like peak covid and that the chinese communist party had actually never been stronger

00:17:58.240 um so that just shows you the chinese communist party really has constructed an alternative reality here 0.91

00:18:04.400 in the united states and unfortunately there are just people who are so willing to take their cash that

00:18:09.440 their infiltration as opposed to invasion scheme um really it works because there are people who are

00:18:16.560 eager to aid and abet them to the tunes of millions if not billions of dollars

00:18:23.040 that's when the when the books are written about managed decline you're going to have uh

00:18:27.040 years from now you're going to have hunter biden's mugshot right on the cover of it natalie how do people

00:18:32.240 get to you in social media how they get to you over at this the war room site natalie g winters on all

00:18:37.760 platforms and make sure you go to war room.org to read our latest story about some coincidences with

00:18:43.440 numbers and hunter biden's finances and joe biden's house uh at war room.org we're going to get to that

00:18:51.200 in detail uh tomorrow that that is a shocker we have to take our time and savor that people's

00:18:57.680 heads are going to blow up thank you very much ma'am honor to have you on here

00:19:02.240 uh i want to go to dave bratt now dave first off you know the investigations just in your

00:19:07.440 time in congress by the way dave is here in his personal capacity this is his personal thoughts

00:19:11.600 he's dean down at uh the great business school at liberty university but just i want to make sure

00:19:17.200 people understand because they're they're they're melting down now about the investigative committees

00:19:22.640 in the house you've been there as a congressman um and you see what i call target rich environment

00:19:29.120 you know you got the impeachment maybe of my york is all this but right now they're particularly uh

00:19:34.000 they're particularly freaking out uh and cnn's actually doing lots of stories about the different

00:19:39.200 investigative uh groups oversight judiciary etc that are going to be looking at the biden's uh number

00:19:45.840 one this security clearance uh the the intelligence issue we got with the top secret documents and in

00:19:51.120 addition the uh the uh their their whole finances of the entire family put us inside the room how

00:19:57.360 do these investigative committees work yeah well first of all congratulations to natalie for uh just

00:20:04.000 being smart and honest and courageous and and this show always has the signal right that was just pure

00:20:10.320 signal and you've been covering uh a lot of the heavy lifting right mike gallagher congressman

00:20:15.600 gallagher is going to head up probably china piece uh but then the other oversight right the church

00:20:20.560 committees the fbi the cia's uh the justice department it's it's all one big mess right now

00:20:28.000 so one piece is going to feed right into the other uh the question is will leadership sustain uh these

00:20:34.960 initiatives once it starts blowing up it it is a little strange out there there's weird signals

00:20:39.600 coming out rubini uh just wrote a piece this afternoon and they had it's a perfect storm of mega

00:20:45.760 threats right it's like he's been following the war room and he's got larry summers from harvard

00:20:50.320 reporting on this as well shocking you know all the the consensus the new york times this afternoon

00:20:55.200 just came out with the china falling apart piece which i haven't seen uh their strategy uh is is

00:21:01.600 problematic and so uh it's it's just going to be what natalie just said i want to say one thing i want

00:21:07.840 to say one he's breaking news and we're going to have rubini's piece tomorrow rubini uh and i have

00:21:14.000 tremendous respect for rubini i know uh dean bratt does because he's one of the guys that has been

00:21:19.440 warning about this debt massive debt as a major national security problem he makes the case and

00:21:25.040 we're going to actually open the show tomorrow we're gonna have philip patrick on we're gonna have

00:21:28.560 russ vote on i hope to get uh cortez and maybe even bratt again if i can talk him into because tomorrow's

00:21:33.840 the debt ceiling rubini says hey this is worse than the 70s and this is even maybe worse than the

00:21:41.040 dark valley of the 1930s which the war room has been preaching now for a couple of years it's very

00:21:46.320 powerful what in in in given this uh obviously financial crisis and geopolitical crisis how does

00:21:54.480 congress i want you to because you were there what do you mean leadership has to have the back

00:21:59.040 of judiciary of the of the yeah of the uh the the weaponization of government of of uh of what they're

00:22:06.000 doing on homeland security of what gallagher is going to do in the china select committee what do you

00:22:10.000 mean by leadership has to have their back yeah well right now it looks like they're all working

00:22:15.520 it's coordinated the the news is coming out with the headlines from uh comer and all these guys

00:22:22.240 going across the committees and jordan's in the background and massey might do the church committee

00:22:27.200 and boy would that be a great thing uh but in dc it's just what natalie just uh overviewed right it's

00:22:34.240 this confluence between the public sector and the private sector now it's not just you know government's too

00:22:39.600 big that's the old thesis the new thesis is this is going to end up having you know trillion dollar

00:22:46.160 implications and once it does once the private sector gets whacked uh and you know all these davos

00:22:52.080 folks are over there i got a couple comments on that uh later on uh but then the donor class gets upset

00:22:58.240 they call in and say all right call off these committees right you've gone far enough right everybody

00:23:02.960 gets it everything's corrupt we all know that uh you get it you get a few hands slapped in the past

00:23:09.520 none of this has happened that that group of 20 uh is heroic and uh we owe all this oversight initiative

00:23:15.920 to them and to the folks who have worked in the trenches for the past you know 20 years to bring this

00:23:21.360 up the tea party uh was there was the early impulse uh but in congress itself you got the house doing it

00:23:27.920 the senate is silent so uh you know we need to pay attention to that if the senate is silent that's

00:23:34.160 how the game is played right uh you get to do some messaging stuff it looks good the senate doesn't do

00:23:39.520 anything no one puts any heat uh on using the mainstream media on the uh on the senators who have

00:23:46.400 you know you know kind of moderate districts who can be reasoned with you know a mansion or whatever i

00:23:53.040 don't know anymore so we'll see uh but that's uh that's how the action is going to go and then you

00:23:57.920 know once it gets up to the white house uh they're going to be probably countering a lot of this china 1.00

00:24:03.200 stuff uh but now there's a split right there's this the politics on the left is getting getting

00:24:09.360 pretty interesting too so maybe you get some uh unrest on the uh on the left and there's some

00:24:14.080 internal swarmages over power and money connect connect what you've seen because we're on bradley

00:24:20.080 theron here lee he uh gave this uh talk uh in davos they said hey look we're going to come back

00:24:25.520 china wants to be reintegrated globalization's got to work we're going to be good citizens

00:24:30.320 how does what's happening in davos this week inform your uh your thoughts about what's actually going

00:24:36.640 on in washington with the setup of these investigative committees yeah i've got a graphic guy if denver

00:24:42.880 wants to slap up the graph there's a purple line on the top uh but there's uh some news articles

00:24:48.560 coming out of europe and the davos on the green energy the green energy economy right there up on

00:24:55.440 the top is growing faster it is bigger than the than the real economy so europe's lost their marbles

00:25:02.480 right and then i i have a 30 second uh graphic called gap minder if you want to start that thing i'll just

00:25:09.520 hit play on it economic growth starts in 1800 keep your eye on those two uh pink circles that's one's india

00:25:16.560 and one's china as this thing unfolds you're going to understand that keep your eye on the ball

00:25:22.480 that red ball china is the signal this thing shows the signal you haven't seen anything yet all human 0.99

00:25:28.960 history people made a thousand dollars a year uh up until you're seeing the beginning of growth take

00:25:34.640 place the us is the green ball moving to the right people are living longer we're getting richer

00:25:40.320 gdp per capita is on the uh as you move to the right now watch right now watch that big red ball

00:25:47.280 on your left watch what happens here comes china right this is signal not knowing that is china moving

00:25:54.640 in that's their trajectory trajectory they can own the world of one more decade of that movement the

00:26:01.520 size of the ball is their 1.4 billion people versus our 300 million that that gap minder go out and 0.99

00:26:08.240 fiddle with it it also shows the uh industrialization of china is much higher than ours you can plug that

00:26:14.800 in on the horizontal axis and change variables and their capital investment is much higher than ours

00:26:20.400 and that's why they're growing hey hey yeah we're going to take a we're going to take a short commercial

00:26:25.760 break of course the the uh financial times the lens says it falls in china's population mark turning

00:26:30.960 point of global economy i'm going to ask dave brett he's down at liberty is the 450 million

00:26:37.360 forced abortions that's caused the the the drop in population how big is the lack of morals of the

00:26:43.280 chinese communist party the gangster the gangsters are on beijing short commercial break i got dave

00:26:48.240 bratt we've got dr bradley thayer joe allen all next in the war room

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00:30:04.000 in 2023 we will continue to work to make progress while maintaining stability and follow a proactive

00:30:17.600 fiscal policy and a prudent monetary policy we will strive to maintain reasonable economic growth

00:30:24.480 growth and keep prices and jobs stable our focus will be placed on expanding domestic demand

00:30:43.120 keeping industrial and supply chains smooth

00:30:48.000 supporting the healthy development of private sector deepening state-owned enterprises reform

00:31:01.360 attracting foreign investment

00:31:05.120 and preventing

00:31:07.520 and diffusing economic and financial risks

00:31:10.320 risks

00:31:12.960 if we work hard enough we are confident

00:31:17.120 that in 2023 china's growth will most likely return to its normal trend

00:31:25.440 and the chinese economy will see a significant improvement

00:31:28.080 a noticeable increase of import

00:31:41.600 more investment by companies

00:31:45.520 and residential consumption returning back to normal can be expected

00:31:53.440 okay that is uh welcome back that is vice chairman lee he

00:31:56.720 uh and he's the guy they roll out that uh that is um uh the nice guy he's the guy that interacts with the

00:32:04.640 west he's a the individual that cut the deal uh with lightheiser and navarro president trump's uh

00:32:10.960 not the first big deal the lightheiser deal that took that took away the seven deadly sins

00:32:16.000 or seven original sins of china but he's the one that made the the uh the uh what they call the mini deal

00:32:22.160 that president trump got signed um

00:32:24.160 um but he's sitting there and saying hey china is really going to reintegrate into the globalization

00:32:29.760 system and we've had an off year but we're coming back and we're going to essentially lead the

00:32:34.720 lead the world

00:32:36.800 economy back uh and we're going to play by the rules

00:32:40.240 uh dave brett i've got bradley thayer in here bradley thayer is laid out with the gallagher

00:32:44.400 the the odds against the gallagher committee actually working okay

00:32:49.040 uh but i i also put in front of him this lee he um a document the pressure reports and that

00:32:56.560 where do you stand first of them dropping population is directly correlated to the one

00:33:00.640 china policy and people say when we say one china policy there's blood all over that they had you know 0.97

00:33:06.160 uh miles guo who i think is the best informed guy about the ccp until he says hey there's about 450 0.81

00:33:12.160 million to 500 million of abortions right and he says it's 80 20 girls the boys and he says

00:33:18.800 that's caused these massive social problems in china today and i know that from spending so much

00:33:23.280 time in china that you have you know these young men going around and there's just no it's one of the

00:33:28.080 reasons that sex trafficking is so bad but they're going around and it's like east germany after the

00:33:32.720 fall of the berlin wall they're anti-social because there's no women they're not married 1.00

00:33:37.280 they're still playing video games when they're 40 years old uh how much of um of of this because

00:33:43.600 this was the big picture davos to say hey we understand the economy's in terrible shape

00:33:47.840 but we're coming roaring back dave bratt uh you've looked at this uh you know as closely as anybody

00:33:53.360 do you buy that no i don't if you read the newspapers there's a new verb or some word out

00:33:59.440 there and the question is is china investable that's the new hot term so folks can go google that term and

00:34:06.480 you'll see a whole you know literature on that uh but you know in my view you know god's set up but

00:34:12.480 there's common grace for all to see the glory of the heavens above and the miraculous nature of the

00:34:18.400 universe etc and there's also natural law right and if you violate the natural law to the degree that china 0.62

00:34:24.000 has there are consequences and so they're living that out now and no one wants that for the chinese 1.00

00:34:29.120 people you know they're they're suffering under the ccp uh but uh they they they have all the uh 0.62

00:34:35.520 the the bubbles we have our debts 125 percent of gdp theirs is 300 percent uh they got a real estate

00:34:42.800 crisis uh they have a productivity crisis right you can only build so many bullet trains uh and make

00:34:48.400 the the basic capital infrastructure investment so they're on diminishing returns across the board

00:34:53.360 and uh they will decline uh they still have a a powerful uh engine available to them uh but you

00:35:01.280 saw at the 20th uh ccp congress right they made three moves right they went full-on marxist leninist

00:35:07.520 two they got rid of all economic reforms that graph i just showed you at gapminder.org uh economic growth

00:35:16.240 began uh when societies choose the free market system there's always been markets but a society has to

00:35:23.200 choose uh to have a free market system we are rejecting ours as well but china is just rejected

00:35:29.840 theirs and of course on top of that they got rid of all the china language on peace of harmony and uh 0.85

00:35:35.360 the third point was they went to a war footing language on struggle sessions uh intentions coming

00:35:40.800 up with the rest of the world so you know you put those three together and uh xi jipeng that's that's

00:35:45.840 his new thesis and that is not compatible with economic growth so the the second and third guys say all

00:35:52.800 they want it ain't gonna happen let me bring in well lee who's got the strategist dr thayer before

00:35:59.440 we get to the mike gallagher tough time he's gonna have do you buy what uh dave brad's selling or do you

00:36:06.880 do you believe lee ho dr bradley thayer i don't believe lee ho remember you're steve you're old enough

00:36:14.080 to remember the dick cavett show i remember when mary mccarthy dismissed lillian hellman saying that every

00:36:19.920 word that she writes is a lie including and and the every word that this guy said was a lie 0.90

00:36:27.520 so you can dismiss the totality of it it should hold it hold it hold it hold it hold it i got i

00:36:32.560 want to hear that because this is important davos is like sitting there going oh the chinese have come

00:36:37.840 and lee ho is such a brilliant strategist and statesman and he's told us it's all going to be

00:36:42.080 good and they're going to re they're going to they're going to reintegrate into the rules-based

00:36:46.000 uh the international rules-based order dr bradley thayer well no they're not this is just a smoke

00:36:53.040 screen i mean what he's attempting to do is state brad uh really is is a saying is that they're trying

00:36:59.680 to lure investors they face profound economic difficulties they're trying to keep people from

00:37:06.000 leaving china investment from leaving china because they face just a in some respects a perfect storm of

00:37:13.760 problem the demographic issues of course that dave brad mentioned but obviously covid uh is working

00:37:19.920 its way through and this is why we're seeing one of the reasons why we're seeing this low growth which

00:37:24.880 is going to be sustained xi jinping is never going to give up his ideology his i he sees himself as 0.60

00:37:31.920 mao zedong and even greater than mao and ideology is at the core of his identity at the core of his belief

00:37:40.960 so he can send individuals out from time to time to talk about china reintegrating itself uh into a

00:37:48.880 liberal international order uh but it's uh it's simply deception uh it's an information operation uh

00:37:57.280 designed to um uh help address their profound problems they have tremendous vulnerabilities and

00:38:05.280 now's the time to act against them because they are so vulnerable so it's a question of whether we'll

00:38:11.200 do that or not in conjunction with others but that's the key issue okay hang on for a second

00:38:17.920 because brett's got to bounce dave i want to tie that back to uh uh clearly dr thayer thinks you're

00:38:24.400 right on this but i want to tie it back to the to the video we play today that jack was so big put up

00:38:29.520 is uh he had an exclusive on it from president trump president trump really and i think it's the

00:38:35.200 first time he's really done it at that level of depth talked about essentially the influence

00:38:39.760 operation going on the ccp the money they're spreading here and that the not just in the

00:38:44.880 straits of taiwan not just in the defense of taiwan or uh you know talking about our allies in japan or

00:38:50.640 south korea right the kinetic part of this or even the the unrestricted warfare in asia but really

00:38:57.280 talked about it here uh do you do you think president trump's that's a clarion call or do

00:39:02.400 you think that's uh an overstatement sir no i i agreed with every plank that was the policy case

00:39:10.560 that's why i kind of skipped over it he laid that out and thayer just said uh rightly uh that's the

00:39:16.800 point right china's going to come at us uh like uh the previous reports on all they do even with the

00:39:24.080 house uh interns uh to sway them much less members of congress with millions and millions of dollars 0.82

00:39:30.080 in the private sector the fortune 500 esg and all this stuff right so you know thayer said the the

00:39:36.880 thesis statement they're going to do their best uh to convince us to come back there trump just went

00:39:42.400 point by point by point down about 20 policy points that said we got to do this this and this

00:39:47.600 to prevent that from happening so now it's incumbent on the house and the senate and the american people

00:39:52.640 uh to wake up and uh quit doing the easy thing always right i'm i'm subject to the same uh issues

00:40:01.120 that the average american is it's just it's easier to just you know making your purchases the easy way

00:40:06.880 not thinking through really the implications of our consumption investment decisions and uh we got to do better

00:40:15.600 dave how do people uh get you how they get you down at uh at the the business court liberty and how

00:40:21.200 they follow all the content you're putting up on bratt economics yeah bratt economics at getter and uh

00:40:27.600 i've been lighting it up the last few days i've added a lot of new content you'll see all the stuff i just

00:40:33.120 mentioned uh today and uh it'll it'll keep you share it with the young people you know and have

00:40:38.720 them go fiddle around on their computers with that gap minder gap minder dot org you can learn a ton

00:40:46.000 of economics uh just sitting down with that simple little app

00:40:51.760 dave bratt thank you for joining us stephanie appreciate you pulling yourself away thanks

00:40:55.840 thanks for all you do god bless

00:40:59.200 okay uh dr fay you wrote this amazing piece and that's what we started off the hour by uh by um

00:41:06.640 discussing um discussing the the investigations we led him with president trump and then talked

00:41:13.280 the last couple hours about these investigations you had a special warning for gallagher and i want to make

00:41:17.760 sure we we put that up and i want you to walk through it particularly the fact you're saying hey

00:41:21.520 don't buy the li ho thing that that's that's ridiculous i mean li ho is over there davos he's 0.98

00:41:26.160 he's telling them what they want to hear uh and that's why they're all saying oh this is amazing this

00:41:31.040 is great china's coming roaring back they're going to be integrated back into the international rules 0.98

00:41:36.240 based order bad orange man bad did not chase him away tell our audience specifically what is the

00:41:43.600 issues with um what's the issues with uh with mike gallagher and what does he face sir this this

00:41:49.120 select committee on china we might note that gallagher did not go to davos he was scheduled to go to

00:41:54.560 davos uh he waved off uh i would like to hope that this show and uh and our contributors had a little

00:42:01.600 bit to do with that uh it might have been other reasons but i think this is at least part of it

00:42:06.080 walk us through we got a couple minutes here walk us through what gallagher the challenges facing mike

00:42:10.560 gallagher on the select committee for the investigation into china absolutely steve uh what he's attempting to

00:42:17.840 do is heroic and he deserves tremendous support but he has really the augian stables he's got to clean

00:42:23.920 out first we've been here before remember the cox commission report fred thompson in the senate

00:42:30.080 christopher cox in the house uh generated an incredible report in 1999 saying that china has been trying to

00:42:37.840 steal our technology for 20 years that is since diplomatic relations and were established in 1979

00:42:44.880 uh and the the document that was generated the cox commission report uh essentially uh is notable

00:42:55.760 because so little was done uh so little was done because the american political elite and others did

00:43:03.040 not want to make any changes so caught the cox commission serves as a warning uh to gallagher in terms of

00:43:10.880 um the amount of investigation he's going to be able to do is absolutely important to document uh what's

00:43:17.680 occurring but then those suggestions those recommendations have to be put in that's going

00:43:24.080 to require leadership that's going to require mccarthy and that's going to require the senate and

00:43:28.800 that's going to require a president uh to do so i often say the china threat should be non-partisan

00:43:35.920 uh sadly it's not holy but it indeed should be non-partisan as all of us democrats independence

00:43:42.480 republicans are going to be affected but are affected by it and are only going to be but how

00:43:47.600 is it because you're going to have you're going to have the convergence and the conflation of two

00:43:51.440 things you've got a select committee on on the ccp right and and gallagher has a little bit and this

00:43:58.240 is my concern with it a little too much neocon kinetic our military and them as a competitor in business

00:44:04.880 which is not the point the point is they're an existential threat that is already at war with us

00:44:10.720 right already at war this economically uh psychological warfare cyber warfare information

00:44:16.160 warfare fifth generation warfare but also you're going to have the convergence because on the other

00:44:21.200 side and this is one of the reasons we put up at the top of the five o'clock show the freak out that

00:44:25.680 they're having with the um the freak out they're having with uh you know mega people from the 20

00:44:32.800 being put into these committees particularly the investigative committees you're going to have

00:44:36.320 very quickly the convergence of the biden crime family with uh aspects of the ccp the laptop from

00:44:45.120 hell is going to be comer's already said hey now we're going to get into the laptop from hell and oh by

00:44:49.440 the way we're making the biden family's finances article number one we want to get to the bottom of all

00:44:55.280 their finances so how you're going to have the convergence of these two what would you recommend what what

00:45:00.880 if you were on gallagher's staff what would you how would you tell him uh what direction should he

00:45:06.800 go in driving the select committee on the investigation into the ccp there are three elements

00:45:13.520 there that gallagher can advance um again keeping in mind the cox commission history matters uh and

00:45:20.960 that's the lessons that um should have been learned in the past need to be applied here first china is

00:45:27.680 the enemy it is an existential threat it is involving everything it's ubiquitous in every aspect of our

00:45:35.520 elite from silicon valley to wall street media obviously universities are political our politics at

00:45:43.200 the state local government uh uh levels uh it's everywhere again it is ubiquitous they are our enemy

00:45:51.360 and if gallagher can come away uh with after his uh essentially uh all of the testimonies the evidence

00:45:58.960 acquired to advance the explanation why china is the enemy of the united states that's incredibly valuable

00:46:07.040 secondly building on that we have to begin to take the battle to the ccp that is they have tremendous 1.00

00:46:15.760 vulnerabilities dave bratt natalie winters has touched on this day bratt did and so many others

00:46:22.000 on your show have touched on the vulnerabilities that they have but gallagher has to advance the offense

00:46:29.120 against the ccp how do we exploit their vulnerabilities that's absolutely essential 1.00

00:46:35.520 and then thirdly um to go uh leave no stone unturned uh steven you appreciate of course how difficult

00:46:43.920 that's going to be uh given that it is an augie and stable and it's going to have to be mucked out

00:46:50.480 and when you muck that out you're going to find that senate house uh it's a bipartisan problem and there

00:46:57.360 are a lot of folks who are very powerful uh biden administration uh obviously uh are uh are culpable

00:47:05.760 um in terms of what they have done in the past and what they're

00:47:11.840 let's just set aside the the the the family for a second and put that aside because you've got it to

00:47:18.320 do this investigation right you have to as the committee on the present danger i mean the the

00:47:23.120 the the economic warfare part and the capital markets part on the on the on the committee

00:47:28.240 on the present danger has been you know brilliant but you're going to have to name names you're

00:47:34.640 going to have to show how wall street with the pension fund money the people of the united states

00:47:38.240 have financed the chinese communist party you're going to have to talk about uh silicon valley i think

00:47:43.760 you have to bring up and i'll pick up for example sequoia capital uh in which sequoia is uh one of

00:47:50.880 the financiers of elon musk twitter acquisition sequoia capital is i say a front and i know they're

00:47:57.440 being investigated by uh by and i know exactly why it was stopped at one time it will be restarted uh in

00:48:03.600 the house intelligence committee on there being a front for the chinese communist party you have to get

00:48:09.280 into and start naming those type of names in that level of detail on the technology side on the 0.63

00:48:14.480 corporate side on the finance side do you think gallagher uh we we have to go black black black

00:48:21.280 rock the blacks to all of it all of it it's gonna it would get first of all it would be riveting 0.99

00:48:26.000 television but remember they're also the biggest donors to the political party the pressure on this 0.90

00:48:32.640 committee will will be enormous if it's to do it the right thing so how would you what would you tell

00:48:38.400 gallagher how would he go about this well in in addition to those points it's going to require

00:48:46.880 obviously air cover uh from uh leadership but uh mike gallagher is the type of guy who's going to go

00:48:54.560 he's going to advance and he's going to explore uh what needs to be explored and that's wall street as

00:49:00.880 you said uh steve certainly um larry fink essentially the corrupt aspect of our thrift

00:49:07.840 savings plan that frank gaffney and brian kennedy have such a done and roger robinson have done such

00:49:13.440 an exceptional job of identifying the fact that the u.s government employees in their retirement fund

00:49:18.800 are funding the ccp and the pla that's how bad the rot is uh so gallagher can do an exceptional job

00:49:28.960 of obviously not only exposing the rot but ensuring that as you said names are going to be named here

00:49:36.560 in terms of those who have been driving this uh and that's the first thing uh you know that's

00:49:43.200 obviously a key element in addressing um the problems that we face uh and ensuring that we're

00:49:50.000 no longer funding the ccp yeah dr thayer we got to bounce uh your book with uh lin chow han which is

00:49:58.080 amazing understanding the china threat is i think the definitive book for right now it's out in a

00:50:04.160 paperback by rutledge you can get it on amazon it's absolutely extraordinary uh how do people get to

00:50:10.080 your rights particularly your your warning uh to mike gallagher where where do you i know you're on

00:50:14.560 american greatness real clear politics the hill where do people go to get all of your writings

00:50:18.640 but the center for security policy dot org so center for security policy dot org but also at

00:50:25.760 bradley thayer at um on uh getter of course and truth uh are great places to go thank you steve thanks

00:50:32.400 very much dr uh they are very uh powerful a piece we're going to make sure everybody gets it'll be

00:50:38.640 pushed out everywhere thank you very much okay tomorrow at 10 it is uh the debt we hit the debt ceiling

00:50:44.320 philip patrick uh steve cortez we got ross vote i'm gonna talk right into it right after the show

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00:50:56.000 battles they'll be enjoying tomorrow secretary of treasury is wandering around the world she's not 1.00

00:51:00.480 even here but we'll get into it all tomorrow morning at 10 a.m see you back here in the war room

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Bannon's War Room - January 19, 2023

WarRoom Battleground 215： The Rising Threat Of China

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