WarRoom Battleground EP 102： Global Energy Crisis Crushes Europe; Putin Makes 1 Billion Dollar Free Cash Flow A Day; Grassley Looks To Nail And Crush Hunter Biden Laptop From Hell Cover Up; Has AI Reached Consciousness
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Summary
Nat Gas on track for its best month in nearly a decade and Europe's gas prices surge nearly 20% on the heels of a report that Russia is cutting supplies via Nord Stream 1 to just 20% capacity, and the price of natural gas in Europe is now six times what we are paying for natural gas there. Meanwhile, the Dow and S&P 500 hit new all-time highs in the morning.
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I mean, every day you're out there, what they're doing is blowing people off.
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If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians
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It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
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This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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War Room, Battleground, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Hey Kelly, well let's start here with Nat Gas because there are some eye-popping moves.
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The U.S. contract surged more than 11% earlier in the day to 9.75, which was the highest since
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It has since pulled way back from that level, but is holding right around the $9 level.
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Now this August contract rolls tomorrow, meaning some of the activities due to thin trading
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But on the fundamental side, we do have hot temperatures and little production growth.
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And Nat Gas now on track for its best month ever.
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And if you thought our prices were elevated, take a look at Europe.
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Nat Gas there surging nearly 20% today, crossing above the €200 per megawatt hour mark for the
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At $2.11, that's equivalent to about $63 on Henry Hub, according to Argus Media.
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The EU today agreeing to voluntarily cut gas usage by 15% between August and next March.
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And those cuts would become mandatory in the event that an emergency is declared.
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This deal, of course, comes one day before Russia is set to further cut gas deliveries via
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Nord Stream 1, beginning tomorrow, Kelly, it will be operating at just 20% capacity.
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And they're paying six times what we are paying for natural gas.
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Welcome to War Room Battleground, Tuesday, 26 July, Year of Our Lord 2022.
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Headline in this morning's Financial Times of London, fears of Europe's gas crunch mount
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We've invited in Rebecca Koffler is going to join us in a moment.
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But I got to start, I got Mike Davis going to talk about the laptop from hell and what's
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It's kind of like the 27 Yankees, we've got murderer's rope.
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Dave Walsh, you've done such a great job of really becoming kind of the tutor and the
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But brother, I got to put it in perspective today.
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I think when Trump was in office, and Dave Walsh, correct me, I remember, I think that
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I know it got over $2, and I think it was $2 a while ago.
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But it's $9.34 today, it's been banging around, it got up to $9.75.
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What's the price of the exact amount, just stay on that comparison.
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In Europe, as we mark to market today, what's the price of natural gas, sir?
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During most of the Trump administration, we averaged about $2.25 to $2.30 per MMBTU.
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And one-fourth of these levels is where we were.
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You know, we talked, you and I, about the Freeport LNG fire, terminal LNG, terminal fire.
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A few weeks ago, when that hit, prices dropped one day to $5.50.
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We've gone up 62.3% since then, as exportation has kicked in very high gear to Western Europe.
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Because I don't think, and I talked to Cortez when I booked you, I said,
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look, I don't think we're describing to the American people,
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when we talk about the Germans talking about they think they're going to have social unrest,
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when the Italian government just fell because of this.
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We used to pay average, let's say $2 or somewhere just north of $2 under Trump.
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Around $2 under Trump and full-spectrum energy dominance.
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But today, it got up under Biden, north of $9, almost $10.
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I just want to make sure that we're comparing to an American audience.
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You're going to have, first off, we've made the Biden, NATO, Davos, the EU have made the
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oligarchs in Russia and Putin and the collection of thugs and criminals around him, the richest
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This is, you're going to have a revolution in Europe.
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For $63, besides paying for either heat or air conditioning and some food, they're not
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going to have any discretionary income to do anything.
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And to point, specifically, Germany, who bragged about the wind energy, solar energy for electricity,
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have remained 95% dependent on gas and oil for home and building heating.
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So this is a complete disaster in Germany, plus the manufacturing base there, of course,
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heavily dependent on natural gas feedstock for all kinds of products from petrochemicals
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But here's a continent that also, in the last 15 years, has methodically and programmatically
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reduced its own production of oil and gas coming out of the North Sea, Norway, Sweden,
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the UK, Scotland, reducing production from what was close to 10 million barrels a day,
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down now pre-Ukraine invasion to 3.5 million barrels a day, coming out of the North Sea on
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a conscious basis to become dependent on Russia.
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They haven't reduced consumption, really, at all, meaningfully, in Western Europe.
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It's been a matter of becoming totally dependent on imports from Russia, as opposed to their
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And, you know, heaven forbid, this administration wants the same thing to happen in this country.
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Reduce production from where we were at 13 million barrels a day two years ago, down
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now 2 million barrels a day, and to lower levels yet, if most of their policies are enforced.
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I want to go back to Europe, because this is all inextricably linked.
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There's a, correct me if I'm wrong, you're our mentor, you're our guide.
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There's a direct correlation between price of natural gas and the price of food.
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Three quarters, three quarters of the key fertilizers in the world are derived from natural gas.
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Secondly, the transportation of everything in the cold chain, from vegetables to fruits
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to meats, the transportation and cooling of those items to keep them refrigerated to be
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is probably now 60% transportation and cold chain cost inside of typical food items.
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Not to mention what's happened to fertilizer costs that have quintupled since mid-last year,
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which is a huge input, and we're going to have a huge problem in the fall harvest.
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I'm going to bring in Rebecca Coughlin in a second, but I want to ask you this.
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If people consciously put together a plan of how to destroy a civilization based upon energy,
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they would go to this transition to these sustainable energies that are not ready yet,
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cut dramatically, cut production, hold it, then make yourself totally dependent upon a dictatorship
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Make yourself almost 100% that, and then challenge that.
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Is there anything I'm missing that, and by the way, it's $63.
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What we're paying $9 for and is breaking the backs of American consumers.
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This is why 42% of people can't sleep at night, because they're sitting there going,
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The consumers have enough to pay for energy costs and transportation energy costs,
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and the little bit of food they're getting at Walmart.
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They came out, because I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but how possibly did Davos and Brussels
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and NATO and the EU and all these geniuses with the German governments that are so smart,
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all of our betters, how did they actually set up a perfect storm that will literally destroy
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their economies, and with their economies, their people?
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No, you're exactly right, and you go right back, again, simple things.
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People will buy food first, the energy to get the food and refrigerate the food and to
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make the food second, to cool and heat themselves third, before they get to, excuse my plain
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And because of that, you're seeing now a significant recessionary signs occurring.
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The use of gas in this country is now down 8% from a year ago, same date.
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I'm going to tell you how bad that is in the harbinger of the recession we're into now.
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In the 2008 recession depression, which was severe, gas use declined about 4% year on year,
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In the 2020 catastrophe collapse we had for about three months, it dropped about 13%.
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So 4% in 2008 to 2009, 13% last year, 2020, in that four month, five month bad period,
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we're already down 8% in utilization of gasoline in the last few months.
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So yeah, there's been some price relief here of about 10, 12% in the last few weeks because
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of severe demand suppression of gas use for cars over here, which is indicative of we're
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into a significant recession caused by energy costs in everything, in food, in gasoline,
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We're going to get into cooling in the summer right now with gas across 40, 60% of the country
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And, you know, the narrative on all this, the Wall Street yesterday came out with an article
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spinning the grid stability, how summer weather can strain the grid.
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What's happened to us is the fact that we've reduced baseload continuous duty energy sources
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already by about 9% from 2015, and if you believe all the consensus forecasts of new generation
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capacity to be added by 2030, reserve margins in this country will be about halved from where
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they were in 2015, meaning the opportunity for grid disturbances, brownouts, and blackouts
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will more than triple by 2030, not because of grid instability, but because of the lack of
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continuous baseload power generation plants, coal, natural gas, and nuclear.
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Stuff that produces power all of the time is now the mix of that has drastically reduced
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in favor of wind and solar new capacity additions, causing much more exposure to brownouts and
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blackouts as reserve margins of electric power reduce and reduce and reduce.
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No, we're headed into that third world category, consciously and intentionally.
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In a world energy crisis, but the United States is heading into a third world.
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Rebecca, you're, I think, you're a former DIA officer.
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You're considered one of the world's experts on understanding Putin and the Tsar's court around
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him and they're thinking, could they've ever envisioned in a million years that the geniuses
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in Brussels and EU and in Germany and would have had a plan set up that they're now, I think
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they're generating $900 million of free cash flow a day, ma'am?
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What happened was even Putin pre-calculated the potential, the impact of the potential sanctions.
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He could have never expected that the Washington geniuses were going to bite the nose to spite the face.
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The International Monetary Fund released a new outlook and predicting that the global economy is in the recession.
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But guess whose economy is not in the recession?
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The numbers for the Russian economy are actually up.
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The geniuses are completely incompetent in Washington and they need to get out.
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We need to install real people who understand warfare, who understand strategy and the economy.
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He has an MIT-educated central banker, Elvira Nabiulina.
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And I don't know who these people are, you know, that are running the White House, because it's certainly not Biden.
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And the Jake Sullivans and the Anthony Blinken's, these are the Obama 2.0 crew that screwed things up the first time.
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Not only in, you know, Afghanistan, but with Russia, right?
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Let me say, the Financial Times of London fears of Europe's gas crunch mount as Russia cuts Nord Stream 1 flows.
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Rebecca, my question is, Zelensky came out today and accused Russia of being a terrorist state because he says they're using gas as a weapon.
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I, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought it was the United States that went after to take down the central bank of Russia that crushed the ruble to cause a revolution in the streets.
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What does Zelensky mean when he says, of course, they're going to use their naturalry?
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What does Zelensky mean when he called Putin and the Russians economic terrorists, ma'am?
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It's very difficult to understand what Zelensky means, Steve.
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Zelensky is a highly trained, skilled and talented actor.
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He knows exactly what buttons to push with Americans and with the Europeans.
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So he's throwing out phrases like, you know, Putin is a war criminal.
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This is all intended to evoke emotions because he knows how we react.
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So what's been happening is Ukraine is losing the war and Zelensky is looking for scapegoats to blame somebody.
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And so all this rhetoric is not going to translate in any kind of progress and victory because the way that he identified victory is to retake the entire portion that the Russians have occupied,
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And so what's happening, President Biden has opened this spigot.
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It's U.S. taxpayers' money that are flowing into the compass of not only Putin's oligarchs, but Ukrainian oligarchs.
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The Northrop Gromans and the Arabians, and it's the American people that are funding this war.
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And Biden and his conglomerate, the corrupt conglomerate, are telling the American people that we're going to provide support to Ukraine for as long as it takes, I quote.
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We have already spent in five months more than in five years in Afghanistan.
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Eight billion during the Biden administration, plus additional 54 billion that Congress has, 62 billion.
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They're going to devastate and bankrupt our own country.
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We're going to have you back on later when we get a better connection.
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Your book is out in paperback, Putin's playbook.
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You get inside the thinking of the KGB, the FSB, the court around Putin, but particularly his plan to take down America.
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And I got to tell you, this is a very well thought through thing.
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And the thing that scares me is the Western Europe and NATO and the Biden administration is playing right into their hands.
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Joni Ernst today over at the, maybe yesterday at the America First Policy Institute conference said her objective and the objective of other hawks like her are to literally decimate the Russian media, Russian army, the Russian military and drive them out of Ukraine back into Russia, which would obviously lead to American combat troops would have to be there.
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What's your what's your what's your social media handles, Rebecca, and how do people get the book Putin's playbook?
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The book is available anywhere on Amazon and pretty much in any store Putin's playbook Russian secret plan to defeat America.
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I predicted this war and the new introduction includes the information on the crisis in Ukraine.
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It also includes information of what the DIA and the CIA were trying to hide from the American people by censoring my book, which they actually did try to kill.
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Unlike so many channels here that are basically cheering, they have become PR agents for Zelensky.
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And they're deceiving the American people about how they brought us into this war.
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That potential has a very, very serious potential to escalate in a major war in Europe and even in a war between the United States and Russia, because not only we're supplying weaponry, we are now considering supplying F-15s and F-16s.
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So Putin, they think these geniuses, Putin is just going to sit and wait.
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You know, he's going to try to accomplish as much as he can and unleash, you know, he's already unleashing for bombardment across the entire Ukraine.
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You know, he just struck a death, this whole grain, you know, export deal was just deception by Putin.
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And these geniuses, they are tricked every single time.
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By the way, Rebecca Koffler has joined us from the lobby of the of the famous Trump Tower.
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You see right there in the background, Rebecca Koffler wouldn't happen to be positioning herself to be to be national security adviser in the second Trump administration.
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Steve, Steve, I'm going to have some Trump campaign to celebrate my book.
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It's out in paperback today from Regnery everywhere.
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Dave, are we inadvertently, by the way, the $63 is not an apples to apples comparison because the contracts are done differently.
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They're paying out of six or seven times what America, five times what Americans are paying.
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And this is why these governments, Orbán called it in Hungary, they're going to start to fall like dominoes.
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You say the United States is heading to be a third world country as far as energy production goes, where we should be full spectrum energy dominance like we're in a Trump.
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Do you believe right now, sir, that we are on the precipice of causing a global energy crisis that will be very tough to unwind, sir?
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And I'm going to say Zelensky's commentary is so disingenuous.
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Modern warfare for the last hundred years has been totally dependent on oil and gas.
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The Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbor was about the United States oil and gas boycott after they had taken two-thirds of Southeast Asia.
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Japan attacked Pearl Harbor as a direct result.
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The Germans negotiated in 1939 a treaty with Russia to augment their three-day supply of oil and gas.
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Germany to get the war machine moving into Poland, Yugoslavia, Hungary, with Russian gas and oil that they contracted for for about two years, happily being delivered to them.
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When the Russians ceased that agreement was about the time that Germany decided to invade, to go and get those oil fields, because they're essentially important to the conduct of any conflict.
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It's about the modern age warfare is dependent on the supply of oil and gas.
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No, we're in a – these kinds of prices are hideous.
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And again, I go back to the German case of home heating is a big deal.
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And factory capacity, you know, the car industry, the chemical industry, the steel industry in Germany, the machine tool industry, all based on energy, oil and gas at the heart of it.
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But this issue of having no supply with the pipeline shutdown for maintenance that are probably, you know, a lot of concern, not going to be reopened.
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Again, 95% of building heating is still oil and gas, despite all these media proclamations about Germany being green and wind and solar.
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Wind and solar have nothing to do with most of the energy consumed in Germany, frankly.
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When you take into account heating, cooling, and transportation, all in.
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I know you're up on Getter, putting up great material all the time.
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Dave, you've done such a good job of being a mentor to the MAGA movement to understand this.
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I think our show does a better job of giving the average American a real snapshot of what's going on in the world.
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The Italian government's falling exactly because of this issue.
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And this is why Giorgio Maloney's going to be there.
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In the country, only you really providing the forum to do this.
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And I had to bring the one in over to Mike Davis.
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Mike Davis is very focused on this tech bill that they're trying to get forced to break the tech oligarchs.
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Mike, I've had you do other duty, given you know Grassley.
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Blockbuster story overnight from CBS News, Catherine Herridge.
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The whistleblowers, official real whistleblowers from the FBI and DOJ have come to Grassley.
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He sent a letter now, DOJ, about the laptop from hell.
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We've got a couple minutes to lay the case out.
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Then I'm going to bring you back and talk about Grassley as a man and how serious he is.
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What did CBS tell us last night and this morning, sir?
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So what happened is that Senator Chuck Grassley from Iowa is the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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And he has been a longtime champion for federal whistleblowers, people who want to expose waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government.
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And he has been investigating serious corruption at the FBI, where whistleblowers from the FBI have come to him with very credible evidence, according to his letter.
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And according to Catherine Heritage's reporting, that the FBI, not only did the FBI try to influence the election on Trump to make sure he wasn't elected and not reelected.
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There was an active investigation into Hunter Biden's corruption.
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James Biden, President Biden's brother, Hunter the Sun, and maybe even President Biden himself.
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There was corruption with their foreign dealings with Ukraine and China and elsewhere.
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Tax evasion, failure to report these foreign dealings, other potential crimes.
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The FBI had serious leads on this, and there were senior officials in the FBI and the Washington field office who shut down this investigation, number one.
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Number two, they actually set up this, they set up this hoax.
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They had a supervisory intel agent at the FBI say that this derogatory information about Hunter, James, and maybe President Biden was part of a misinformation or a disinformation campaign from a foreign government.
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And that's how they were able to shut down this criminal investigation.
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This is as bad as it gets for corruption inside of the FBI.
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And my former boss, Chuck Grassley, is trying to get to the bottom of it.
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Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
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He was, he knows Chuck Grassley, worked for Chuck Grassley, was a clerk for Gorsuch, all of it.
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I got two things I want to talk to him briefly, too.
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He's committed to do an hour on these Axios members.
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Also, his campaign to take down the tech oligarchs.
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Mike, I got to tell you, because look, you know, on War Room, we're the guys that work
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with the New York Post to get it up in print at the Murdoch newspaper and we broke it.
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And when the New York Post went up that morning, we're the guys that the first people in media
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to kind of put it up and were relentless on this thing to the fact that they took us down
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But this is what my strong belief had to be that something like this went on.
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So it's different when you see CBS News report it, which you have real whistleblowers at
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They've been interviewed and Grassley's now sent a letter.
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And I think what's shocking is people are going to come to the conclusion that the Darren
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Beatys of the world and the Raheem Ghassams of the world and the Steve Bannon's of the world,
00:32:12.520
we've been saying for a long time, we need another like church committee or church commission
00:32:16.460
that the FBI and the CIA are so out of control and so off their original mission that we need
00:32:22.600
to collectively come together and review all of this.
00:32:26.060
Where do you think, you know Grassley better than anybody, you know how determined he is.
00:32:30.280
Where do you think Grassley's investigation is going to go in this, sir?
00:32:35.100
Well, I think it's going to expose corruption at every level, that there's corruption at the
00:32:43.260
There's corruption, there was corruption in the Obama White House when they unleashed
00:32:48.400
the Russian collusion probe on incoming President Donald Trump, when they spied on his presidential
00:32:55.900
campaign, when they even used an intel contractor to spy on President Trump when he was the President
00:33:03.180
And then when there's this, and then when there's this investigation into Hunter Biden,
00:33:08.480
who's the bag man for James and probably President Biden, if you look at the communications,
00:33:15.180
if you look at the emails, President Biden knows full well what his son and brother James
00:33:20.740
And, you know, when there's derogatory information that's coming in to the FBI, the FBI is trying
00:33:29.040
And then the senior leaders of the FBI cook up this fake intelligence that this derogatory
00:33:36.960
information is from a foreign disinformation campaign to shut down this investigation into
00:33:46.700
And Chuck Grassley, my former boss, he's determined, he works like a dog and he's dog
00:33:57.980
It's absolutely shocking, but everything we said has come true.
00:34:02.620
The FBI now has been exposed by whistleblowers.
00:34:04.800
Chuck Grassley, the Judiciary Committee's on it.
00:34:14.880
I've got you committed now on national TV that you're committed.
00:34:19.400
The reason is, is that Mike Davis, as you know, we spent two hours in a special a month
00:34:23.160
ago and people are still raving about it, talked about the legal aspect of the deconstruction
00:34:27.960
of the administrative state with really Gorsuch as the intellectual leader, I would say, of
00:34:33.620
And this is why I said, and I'm not a Supreme Court guy, but I have mentors like Mike Davis.
00:34:38.120
I said in the last session, as important as Roe v. Wade is, the one that will be remembered
00:34:42.920
historically was the EPA versus West Virginia, because that begins, I think, this process
00:34:49.440
In addition, Axios has reported this amazing program that's put together with all these
00:34:53.320
different groups to really have the 4,000 political appointees be ready to hit the beach
00:34:58.700
day one, what they call landing teams, beachhead teams, to get into the government and start
00:35:03.080
the actual process of deconstructing the administrative state.
00:35:08.380
We're going to take an hour or so, maybe a two-hour special, walk through that memo and
00:35:15.180
I do have to ask you, if you're in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area, and remember, we have,
00:35:19.880
I think, five of the seven richest counties in the country because of the imperial cities
00:35:23.360
here and so many of the federal employees from the administrative state, you are constantly,
00:35:28.380
if you watch MSNBC and CNN, which we do nonstop, we have teams that monitor them.
00:35:33.360
If you think the big pharma ad used to be big, it's nothing compared to what they're doing
00:35:39.540
to stop Mike Davis in Article 3 and S, was it 2992?
00:35:45.840
And every ad is like the end of the world or mom and apple pie.
00:35:50.420
So give me two minutes on what are you trying to do and why is big tech take the best filmmakers
00:35:56.780
And I either have a tear in my eye or I want to get under the desk because I'm afraid the
00:36:00.960
Chinese are going to take me over if we pass Mike Davis's bill.
00:36:07.440
My former boss, Chuck Grassley, is the champion of this bill in the Senate with Amy Klobuchar
00:36:12.320
and then Congressman Ken Buck, conservative all-star from Colorado in the House, along with,
00:36:20.940
This bill has wide bipartisan support with the progressive left and the Trump conservatives.
00:36:26.360
And what it does is it finally breaks up big tech's gatekeeping power over information
00:36:33.400
So the trillion dollar big tech monopolist, Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple, they have
00:36:39.600
They're too influenced by China and they use their power to crush competition, shutter small
00:36:45.500
businesses, cancel conservatives and others with whom they disagree.
00:36:49.600
They need, they can't have this gatekeeping power.
00:36:52.220
We've heard that, oh, if you don't like Twitter, build your own.
00:37:01.220
They blamed Parler for the January 6th protest, even though they were organized on Facebook.
00:37:07.280
Google and Apple kicked Parler out of the App Store duopoly and Amazon kicked Parler
00:37:14.960
We need to update and enforce our century old antitrust laws and break up big tech's gatekeeping
00:37:24.160
I'm hearing that you don't get a vote before recess, the August recess, it's over.
00:37:28.380
But you're saying you think there's going to be a vote immediately.
00:37:31.900
You say there's going to be a vote immediately upon the return before they leave for the campaign
00:37:36.940
There's going to be all kinds of pressure on Schumer.
00:37:49.560
He needs to decide whether he wants to be with his populist base or his big tech billionaire
00:37:57.220
And, you know, the closer we get to the midterm election, it makes it harder to pass this with
00:38:05.560
Mike Davis, how do people follow you on social media and how they get to Article 3 and find
00:38:14.360
It's Article3Project.org, Article3Project.org, at Article3Project, at Article3Project on Twitter
00:38:28.480
So make sure everybody goes there and check it out.
00:38:33.360
And now Mike's going to be on top of, because of his relationships, on top of this Hunter
00:38:43.760
It's about the corruption of the Chinese Communist Party, the influence peddling, the
00:38:53.200
Let's hit Joe Allen's cold open and we'll get Joe Allen in.
00:38:55.620
So the potential for superintelligence kind of lies dormant in matter, much like the power
00:39:03.340
of the atom lied dormant throughout human history, patiently waiting there until 1945.
00:39:11.260
In this century, scientists may learn to awaken the power of artificial intelligence.
00:39:17.160
And I think we might then see an intelligence explosion.
00:39:22.220
Let's say that we decide to have a chat with China on some kind of treaty around AI surprises.
00:39:29.080
In the 50s and 60s, we eventually worked out a world where there was a no surprise rule
00:39:40.360
When somebody launches a missile for testing or whatever, they notify everyone.
00:39:46.960
And everyone then uses their missile defense systems to watch, to target, to train the
00:39:52.720
It's an example of a balance of trust or lack of trust.
00:39:59.120
I'm very, very concerned that the U.S. view of China as corrupt or communist or whatever,
00:40:06.640
and the Chinese view of America as failing, which has been well documented, will allow people
00:40:12.460
to say, oh, my God, they're up to something, and then begin some kind of conundrum, begin
00:40:18.280
some kind of thing where because you're arming or you're getting ready, you then trigger the
00:40:28.760
I think we need something like a Manhattan Project on the topic of artificial intelligence.
00:40:34.460
Not to build it, because I think we'll inevitably do that, but to understand how to avoid an
00:40:39.260
arms race and to build it in a way that is aligned with our interests.
00:40:43.920
But the moment we admit that information processing is the source of intelligence, that some appropriate
00:40:51.220
computational system is what the basis of intelligence is, and we admit that we will
00:40:56.040
improve these systems continuously, and we admit that the horizon of cognition very likely
00:41:02.960
far exceeds what we currently know, then we have to admit that we're in the process of
00:41:12.100
Now would be a good time to make sure it's a God we can live with.
00:41:23.620
And that is a, this is probably, of everything we have to deal with on these shows, this
00:41:31.800
underpins, I think it's the most important topic, and it underpins so much that's going
00:41:37.420
on in the Great Reset and this authoritarian rule of the administrative state, all of it.
00:41:42.260
The underpinning is that there's something there, what we call transhumanism.
00:41:46.060
But one of the biggest aspects, remember that's the convergence of many different kind of
00:41:49.660
disciplines, four or five on 12 point, what we call the singularity.
00:41:53.620
One of the ones that's gotten a lot of attention here recently over the last couple of weeks
00:41:58.920
Joe, tell me what I just saw and how worried should I be when Schmidt essentially saying
00:42:05.520
that, which they had the link on Drudge, artificial intelligence, and Miles Groh has said this
00:42:11.260
He said social media and artificial intelligence are more powerful, more lethal, and more deadly
00:42:22.680
Yes, Steve, the three men that we just heard for the listeners, the radio audience, that
00:42:27.960
was Nick Bostrom of Oxford University, Eric Schmidt, ex-Google, and of course, Sam Harris, one
00:42:36.420
of the most prominent new atheism evangelists talking about artificial intelligence becoming a new
00:42:42.840
That sort of language is really not uncommon in certain tech circles, and it's pretty much
00:42:53.920
What you see there is a real concern by men who are pushing for the development of advanced
00:43:01.080
artificial intelligence, including artificial general intelligence, talking about their worries.
00:43:06.800
I think Nick Bostrom is probably the most articulate on this.
00:43:11.080
His 2014 book, you can see here, Super Intelligence, really lays out all of the different possible
00:43:18.200
pathways that an artificial super intelligence could develop.
00:43:22.460
And what he talks about is the possibility of self-improving artificial intelligence software
00:43:34.760
And so his idea is that once an artificial intelligence system moves from artificial narrow
00:43:42.120
intelligence, in which it just does simply one task, to artificial general intelligence,
00:43:47.060
in which it's something like a human intelligence, to artificial super intelligence, it will be
00:43:56.140
And I think a lot of people, both laymen and experts in the tech industry, argue a lot about
00:44:02.180
whether that's even possible or how likely it is, but you could say that about half or, you know,
00:44:08.140
whatever it is, about half, I really do believe that the possibility of a hard takeoff,
00:44:13.940
of an intelligence explosion, of an artificial intelligence system that would be, in essence,
00:44:19.120
a god because it's superhuman, is not only possible but likely.
00:44:22.640
And I think when you hear someone like Eric Schmidt, who was the chairman of the National Security
00:44:28.060
Commission on Artificial Intelligence, in which he argued that we have to embrace artificial
00:44:33.740
intelligence, we have to keep pushing for its advancement, because we are, in essence,
00:44:40.720
And if we don't develop it, and if we don't inculcate our Western values into those systems,
00:44:46.380
then China will do so, and the artificial intelligence systems and all the other technologies that
00:44:52.140
are going to be controlled underneath that will be then wielded by China, or if it were
00:44:57.900
to take off out of human control, it would be an artificial intelligence system that would
00:45:02.760
bear the marks of communism and authoritarianism, as opposed to consensus and liberty on the West.
00:45:11.280
Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hang on, hang on.
00:45:16.380
That is, at the general level, artificial intelligence, and they're afraid of it, there are experiments
00:45:22.020
going on, but let's go back, I want to go now back to what happened in Moscow, because
00:45:27.440
we've been promised, these guys have sworn that this can't possibly happen.
00:45:32.200
Go back to, and this incident's very important, the robot with the artificial intelligence playing
00:45:37.660
against the young child, or the young boy, in the chess match, and reached across when the
00:45:42.960
boy kind of put his hand out there because there was a false move.
00:45:49.180
So how can any of their promises or any of the discussion they're having be taken seriously
00:45:54.880
when you've seen, really, at a very small level that there's a problem here?
00:46:00.160
I mean, why would a robot break a child's finger?
00:46:02.700
At the same time, in the same couple of weeks, we've had this Google engineer saying, hey,
00:46:07.100
I know when I'm talking to a human, and the program I was working on was a seven- or eight-year-old
00:46:15.960
Yeah, the situation in Moscow, I think, is really illustrative of the kinds of problems
00:46:24.220
that all of these complex AI systems will probably inevitably show, and it shows the kind of
00:46:31.760
There should be no reason, really, for the mechanics of the system to be capable of breaking
00:46:39.600
But just its behavior itself, which is controlled by the artificial intelligence systems, makes
00:46:46.520
And I think that whether or not the Russians have identified why it would do that or not,
00:46:51.300
those unexpected consequences are the sorts of things we're going to see over and over
00:46:56.980
And the more trust that people put in these systems to determine finances, to determine
00:47:02.620
social structure and human decision-making, and maybe most importantly, to determine the
00:47:07.840
action on battlefields, the more trust people give these systems, and therefore, the more
00:47:12.880
power that they wield over the various systems that exist in our technological civilization,
00:47:23.560
But one last thing, and they fired the engineer that came forward back, I think it was on the
00:47:29.920
They fired him a couple of days ago, and they reported the buried lead in the article said
00:47:34.060
they had done 11 internal investigations, not reviews, 11 internal investigations.
00:47:40.800
Do you believe that Google should put forward all those investigations should be public immediately,
00:47:48.380
I think that everything that's happening at Google, by and large, should be made public.
00:47:52.460
I think the secrecy in these major corporations from Google to Microsoft to Facebook to Amazon,
00:48:02.700
And I look at the sort of legislation, the sort of antitrust legislation that's coming
00:48:06.500
through, and whether or not that will lead to greater transparency, hopefully it will.
00:48:10.640
It will certainly work towards pulling these guys down off their pedestal and making them
00:48:18.760
Yes, I think they should disclose everything that they know about that system.
00:48:22.900
I don't really think that the system is necessarily conscious, but what you have there is the potential
00:48:29.700
And if those unpredictable systems are determining our lives, we need to know about it.
00:48:40.700
And how do they get to all your great writings?
00:48:42.100
You can find, actually, a review up on Eric Schmidt's book, The Age of AI, right now at the top of my
00:48:57.240
And of course, WarRoom.org under the Transhumanism tab.
00:49:04.100
By the way, today we've had Dave Walsh, the great energy expert.
00:49:06.880
We've had Mike Davis, the great expert of everything dealing with the Supreme Court.
00:49:11.180
We've had Rebecca Koffer, an expert on the KGB and Putin.
00:49:14.860
We've had Joe Allen, our expert in transhumanism.
00:49:24.540
But every day, every week, I think they're putting up a new essay.
00:49:32.460
And the way you did it, Walsh, was to go out and get 18 of the top thinkers in America
00:49:42.620
Well, I'll explain it in one sentence, which is part of the book, which is The Great Reset,
00:49:47.360
Steve, which some people think doesn't even exist or is a right-wing conspiracy theory.
00:49:52.360
And yet, the World Economic Forum, which is sponsoring it, is open about it.
00:49:57.460
And they have videos about it on their website.
00:49:59.740
So The Great Reset is a repackaging of totalitarianism in the service of a ruthless and insatiable
00:50:07.320
elite who use new crises and fresh rhetoric to keep the citizenry pacified, divided, alienated,
00:50:15.360
and grateful for their circumscribed standard of living.
00:50:18.700
We are being herded, Steve, herded into high-rise apartments, eating bugs, owning nothing, and
00:50:26.880
All of these things are being sold to us as a positive good.
00:50:31.620
And so what we decided to do in this book, with 18 essays against this Great Reset, against
00:50:37.920
the New World Order, is to nail them from every angle that we could think of.
00:50:43.800
And I was very, very proud and pleased that we got the kind of writers that we did.
00:50:48.600
David Goldman, Conrad Black, Michael Anton, former National Security Advisor to President
00:50:55.800
Trump, Angelo Cotavilla, the late Angelo, this is his last essay, Richard Fernandez, Victor
00:51:06.240
I contributed the introduction and the final essay myself.
00:51:10.320
But I know this is a subject of great interest to you, Steve, and I'm grateful that we can have
00:51:16.240
This book is going to be a massive book of the fall.
00:51:24.380
Yes, we have an essay up by James Polos of the Claremont Institute.
00:51:29.220
It's up right now at the, T-H-E, hyphen, pipeline, dot O-R-G, the pipeline, dot O-R-G.
00:51:40.860
The book is Against the Great Reset, 18 Theses Contrary to the New World Order.
00:51:48.720
It's going to be a blockbuster from the top thinkers in the world.
00:51:51.380
Michael Walsh, thank you for joining us here on War Room Battleground.
00:51:54.760
We'll be back tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, and we're going to be on fire.