00:03:01.140Frank Walker, however, is set up in the studio, his studio, his home studio,
00:03:07.640Frank Walker, editor in chief of Canon 212, the trad Catholic answer to Matt Drudge and the Drudge report.
00:03:17.880I check the website every single day to keep me abreast of what's going on in the Catholic sphere.
00:03:24.860Frank, we're going to we're waiting for Jenny just to get mic'd up.
00:03:28.420She's going to be coming on in a moment, as I say, live from Belfast.
00:03:33.400We'll, however, as far as we can, start on with the scheduled show, and that is a story I think I'm going to lead with this, really, because I think it illustrates the hypocrisy of the Novus Ordo Church.
00:03:50.720Cardinal McEvoy of Washington, D.C., has removed from ministry an exorcist who offered an opinion that, and let me quote him properly, he said he believed that most UFO sightings are in fact demons.
00:04:13.400Those were his words. I'm not sure that the Catholic Church actually has a formal position on this.
00:04:21.980I tried. I looked in my copy of the catechism. I couldn't find anything.
00:04:27.060But simply offering that opinion, this guy, Monsignor Rossetti, I think, who's been a priest of New York, strangely enough.
00:04:37.800I think he's incarnated in New York, but practicing as an exorcist in D.C.
00:04:43.100It's a bit confusing. He has been removed.
00:04:47.180And I have to say, Frank Walker, what I find most strange about this is that Cardinal McIlroy,
00:04:54.080who is a Francis Cardinal, appointed Cardinal by Francis, has, if you look, if you do the research,
00:05:04.320he has a whole list of controversial statements under his belt in the years since he's been a Cardinal,
00:05:11.060in the years since he's been a bishop i think originally appointed by benedict the 16th um
00:05:17.020and yet this is the incident that he wants to come down on i thought it was somewhat unfair frank
00:05:23.940because he was saying that the catholic church let me quote him because he says that the catholic
00:05:29.100church has um very clear position on very precise teaching on the devil demons and exorcism and i
00:05:39.000don't particularly think whatever um whatever else you can say about monsignor was it i don't
00:05:45.080think he was trying to undermine the church's teaching and he has been somewhat humiliated
00:05:50.480before handing over to you i'll just point out for our non-catholic audience here that this guy
00:05:55.400is actually a monsignor um which is a certain status of seniority in the in the catholic church
00:06:03.620It's either for years served as a priest or perhaps some clerical function in a cathedral or even indeed in the Vatican.
00:06:12.860But I thought he was slapped down in quite a humiliating fashion.
00:06:16.620What's the background here, Frank? I know you've been following this one quite closely.
00:06:22.040Well, yeah, he's a psychiatrist or psychologist as well as this.
00:06:27.780And he also helps heal priests that are dealing with difficulties.
00:06:32.320So there's more to his career than this, but he seems like a fairly straightforward Catholic media commentator.
00:06:40.640He has about 150,000 Instagram followers.
00:06:44.340So he's a media priest who is a famous exorcist.
00:06:50.340Now, there's a few famous exorcists out there in the media priest world,
00:06:54.920Father Ripperger being the most famous traditional Catholic, faithful Catholic media exorcist.
00:07:02.200But this is just one of them. And he runs sort of an operation that is, you know, it's sort of a media operation. We offer services, I suppose, psychological services, but also this, exorcisms, too. I don't think, I don't, you know, I think it's sort of a trend. And at the same time, there's a trend of aliens that's happening out there. And these trends are kind of coming together.
00:07:25.340frank we're just going to hold this a moment and we'll talk about the saint michael center
00:07:31.000for spiritual renewal we can even talk about the vice president vice president vance's
00:07:36.500intervention on the same subject offering the same view a couple of weeks ago um just we'll
00:07:42.460hold it now um we have live from belfars jenny holland joining us in what looks appear appears
00:07:50.740somewhat to either be seen depending on which photos you're looking at um scenes of civil war
00:07:57.260burning um and protesting or bare streets because of some um some degree of curfew but
00:08:07.080jenny holland you're there at the moment tell us right now what is the the present reaction
00:08:12.960today to the brutal stabbing and attempted beheading of the poor unsuspecting Stephen
00:08:22.220Ogilvie. Hi, guys. Yes, so I'm sitting in my car steps away from where the attack was on Monday
00:08:31.940night. You can even see my little dog in the background there. I've just arrived back in
00:08:35.740Belfast. And yes, it's a deserted city. It's a bit like the old wild movie set in the Wild West
00:08:44.040when the bad guy comes to town and everyone draws the shutters. But interestingly, I just drove
00:08:49.760through a loyalist stronghold and it was completely deserted. But here, very close to where this
00:08:56.440attack was, there's not, the streets aren't completely empty. There's more people on the
00:09:01.580streets. The street where the man was attacked, I see a lot of teenagers sort of milling around,
00:09:08.420and I just saw a police Land Rover pass by. So the area where this happened is a very poor,
00:09:16.300a very old working class area that has been very poor for generations. And it sits cheek by jowl
00:09:23.980with a Protestant, similarly poor, similarly working class area that's known here as an0.95
00:09:29.460interface. So these are always areas of high tension. And adding Sudanese migrant men0.55
00:09:40.220into the mix was never going to be a good idea. There's very high-density living as well.1.00
00:09:48.500A lot of young children, a lot of teenagers. The street is actually facing a sort of leisure
00:09:54.660center, community center with football pitches where my son used to go play football almost
00:10:48.760and essentially gone woke. So what we saw last night was rioting and violence in the loyalist
00:10:56.640areas, not in the Catholic areas, for the most part, that I know of. And that is, you know,
00:11:03.080back in the day, that wouldn't have been necessarily the case. Catholic areas were
00:11:07.720the scenes of a lot of rioting in the past, a lot of protesting and a lot of unrest. But Catholics
00:11:14.100are being kept, working-class Catholics, whatever they might feel on the ground about immigration.
00:11:20.820And I would bet my house that many of them have very strong negative feelings about it.0.97
00:11:25.880Their leadership, their political leadership and their community leadership is very keen
00:11:31.420to present a different view so that it's not to be tarred as right wing.
00:11:35.660jenny tell me uh this is your neighborhood this is your your your where you live you know the
00:11:44.820people you're there and amongst them um for many many years uh what's the reaction on the ground
00:11:52.120to the official comments that have been made let me just read out a couple of them you have
00:11:57.040michelle o'neill the first minister of northern ireland and describing the burning of homes that
00:12:03.800the protesters have done i think in part as disgusting cowardice um slurring the protesters
00:12:10.680saying racism intimidation and violence are wrong wherever they occur i wouldn't be so hasty to say
00:12:17.720that these are this is evidence of racism i think it's racism of anger which is bubbling over at the
00:12:23.560way the the political authorities have allowed this situation to take place and of course hillary
00:12:29.880Benn, household name in the UK, also for being the son of Tony Benn, the famous old
00:12:40.500Labour borderline communist for many decades, who's also Northern Ireland secretary in Keir
00:12:46.960Starmer's government. So there's no justification at all for this type of destruction and thuggery.
00:12:52.480I would suggest, as I was saying, that this is a response to the frustration that's bubbling
00:12:58.220over into anger because people do not feel as if their political class is listening to them
00:13:03.560or taking their concerns seriously. That's what I think. But you're there on the ground. These
00:13:08.460are your people. This is where you live. This is your neighborhood. What is the reaction on the
00:13:12.560ground to the response of the political elites to what has been taking place?
00:13:20.060Well, it's important to say that, I mean, Northern Ireland has many flaws, but its people
00:13:24.320are really very salt of the earth, very decent people.
00:13:29.980And it's not a place where there's an exceptional, rampant problem with racism.
00:13:38.180However, the consensus about the riots last night that I've heard
00:13:44.460are that they are the worst that this place has seen in decades.
00:13:49.060One person put it to me as a 7 or 8 out of 10, a 10 being the riots of 1968, 1969, which really kicked off the Troubles as we know them from back then, the worst of the violence.
00:14:02.580So this is being taken very seriously.0.76
00:14:05.020And I think if you went into a shop or went up to a grandmother at a bus stop in one of these Loyalist areas, she would say something like, we don't hate people of other races, but we cannot support these people being housed in our communities because they are bringing social, antisocial crime problems with them.0.87
00:14:29.720and our elected representatives are not listening. Last year, in a town called Ballymena,0.85
00:14:35.860which is a very staunch, loyalist, unionist, Protestant town, a family of Roma gypsies
00:14:41.580had their house burnt out because two boys associated with the family were charged with0.94
00:14:47.460raping a local girl. So locals took matters into their own hands, and they kicked the door in,
00:14:53.080and I think they set the house alight. And I remember going down the following day
00:14:56.980to look at it. And I spoke to a man on the corner. This is something that he said to me directly. He
00:15:01.720said, I am not a racist. I don't mind people coming here and living here if they live peacefully
00:15:07.520and if they respect the rules and if they contribute. But my teenage daughter is afraid
00:15:13.000to go out at night because of the crime that these people are bringing with them. As Trump said,
00:15:18.440they are not sending their best. So this Sudanese man who stands accused, and as you saw, you played
00:15:25.220that video, according to local reports, he moved in two days ago. And again, according to local
00:15:30.700reports, including a video that was widely shared on X of a woman off camera who lives probably
00:15:36.000on one of these streets where I am right now, said that man who was disabled, he was hard of
00:15:44.900hearing, and he required sort of care because he couldn't fully live on his own. He had helped those
00:15:51.820Sudanese men move into their flat. And this is how he was repaid. OK, so this is not a happy1.00
00:15:58.580melting pot story. This is a story of extremely undesirable elements being dropped in to the
00:16:06.980most deprived communities where there's already crime problems. There's already social housing
00:16:14.000problems. There's already problems to access to resources and, you know, just general cultural
00:16:20.100problems with addiction and so forth. And you're bringing in people who bring with them further
00:16:25.380crime, further drugs, further dysfunction. And it's an absolute disaster. The people
00:16:31.640who run the Northern Irish establishment should absolutely know better. And they seem to not. I
00:16:38.760mean, the politicians, the centrist and left-wing and sort of liberal politicians are falling over0.97
00:16:45.180themselves to chastise the plebs for being angry that someone was almost beheaded on the streets0.59
00:16:54.140of Belfast. Again, Belfast has seen a lot of violence. It has even seen a serial killer gang0.83
00:17:00.920that used knives, yes, absolutely, back in the 70s. But we have never seen a man who's arrived
00:17:06.660here moments ago, practically speaking, for absolutely no reason, try and saw the head off
00:17:13.480a vulnerable man who lives in the community.
00:17:39.640Because our political elites are sociopathic overlords.
00:17:43.480And Jenny, very grateful for you to drive out there into the very heart of where this is placed.0.54
00:17:50.460And that's where you've parked. And I want to thank the Northern Ireland police.
00:17:53.140I know that they're sort of there in the area and they're very kindly, kindly let you just pull in and give us this report.
00:17:58.980Right. They're live from the heart of it all.
00:18:01.820In addition to having spent large portions of your life in Italy and Northern Ireland, you've also lived in the United States.
00:18:09.360And you have the American outlook within you as well. Just before you go, what would you tell Americans about what you've seen here over the last 24 hours? What would you flag up for them as being important from your perspective there on the ground?
00:18:29.940I'm really glad you asked me that question, Ben.
00:18:32.380The one thing I would caution against is holding out too much hope that loyalist paramilitary and loyalist communities and Republican paramilitaries and Republican communities are going to come together.
00:18:45.160There were two reports, one of the night of the stabbing, where men from the Shankle, who were only about five minutes' walk away from the Shankle Road, came down to support locals here.
00:18:56.020This is called Duncairn. This is, like I said, a Catholic area. And another report from last night, before the worst of the rioting started, Ardoin, which, again, is an interface area. North Belfast is full of sort of neighborhoods that are very contiguous to each other, Catholic and Protestant.
00:19:14.680And Ardoin residents, which are Catholic Republican, and Woodvale and Twiddell residents, which are loyalist Protestant, sort of came out and shook hands, I heard in some reports.
00:19:29.980That is unprecedented. That is cause for great optimism. However, be very cautious against it, because we have generations and generations of mistrust, even hatred.
00:19:44.560We have a legacy of sectarian murder, sectarian violence here.0.84
00:19:50.860And I don't I would caution Americans against getting too caught up in the idea that maybe the sort of working class elements are going to rise up and come together.
00:20:02.960That would be interesting if it did. It would be significant. It would be a total game changer.
00:20:07.680But I don't know the pain and the anger here runs deep from the troubles.
00:20:13.900The mistrust runs very deep from the troubles. And I think that the political reality is that the Republican leadership will keep their working class communities in lockstep with their left wing socialist agenda. I would be very happy to be proven wrong.
00:20:33.280um well i tell you this with my hand on my heart there's nobody i would rather trust giving a
00:20:41.180written on the ground reading the new jenny holland um where do people go and of course
00:20:46.800we do hope we do hope that catholics and protestants despite the troubles troubles
00:20:52.020in the over over the last well going back to the 1920s frankly but especially over over recent
00:20:57.880decades and what have you. We, I mean, as a non Northern
00:21:01.880Islander, I have a naive hope that this existential threat of
00:21:05.920the invasion might actually bring, you know, let's argue
00:21:09.940over theological and political differences later. Let's come
00:21:12.520together now, because there's a more important existential
00:21:15.280enemy. You're there on the ground, Jenny. Where do people
00:21:18.800go on social media? I know, you're very popular now and
00:21:22.600quoted by quite substantial people in popular
00:21:26.640culture on on your twitter and on your um on your x excuse me and on sub stack but where
00:21:33.280where do people go if they're interested specifically perhaps to follow your insights
00:21:38.420on what's taking place right now in northern ireland seeing as you are de facto now the
00:21:42.520warrens northern ireland correspondent yes well we'll check in tomorrow see how tonight goes
00:21:48.540because they are anticipating some more unrest um i can be found on x at semper femina 21 and
00:21:56.300And for all of my long, at Substack, JennyEHolland.substack.com,
00:22:03.200and also on YouTube at Saving Culture From Itself.
00:22:06.920Jenny, we've lost you from your insights on the revival.
00:23:20.600And I wish we had Second Amendment rights as well in the UK
00:23:27.000because it's tragic watching bystanders to this stabbing.
00:23:33.500And, of course, they just had to wait for someone
00:23:35.200to get some kind of sports equipment, I think it was,
00:23:37.580and beat this guy who, to this moment, hasn't been named.
00:23:42.640To get him off the victim, we are unarmed, effectively, by law.
00:23:49.720And even when we catch when even when the person is caught and goes through a fair jury, a trial before a jury of his peers, there's still not going to be, I think, sufficient punishment.
00:24:04.720Thank God Stephen Ogilvie wasn't killed.
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00:32:11.500Just to pick up where we were left off,
00:32:13.020We were talking about Cardinal McElroy's removal from ministry of the diocesan exorcist, Father Rosetti.
00:32:26.380Tell me something, or at least tell, because, you know, when we do this show every week,
00:32:32.120we're trying to, we have a, obviously, we have a substantial traditional Catholic following here,
00:32:39.580But we also have a huge number of evangelicals, which is primarily the, obviously, the war room audience.
00:32:47.480And one thing I would like to, and I don't know how to do this,
00:32:52.880because I don't want to scandalise people from taking the Catholic Church seriously.
00:32:57.680But on the other hand, these things do need to be aired.
00:33:02.000What is your take on this fact specifically?
00:33:07.420that this priest of 20 years standing has been removed from ministry for expressing a point of view
00:33:14.120which has nothing to do, substantial, with the deposit of the faith.
00:33:21.840Is there any freedom of thought allowed in the Catholic Church,
00:33:29.120or is it simply a cult where every idea is micromanaged from the top?
00:33:33.700Because ironically, cutting against that, and if you look at some of Cardinal McElroy's own statements like on LGBT, on giving communion to pro-abortion politicians, which actually is against the Catholic Church's teaching, on those things, it's absolute liberty of thought.
00:33:56.140On the things which are actually formally taught by the church, no, no, no, we're not a cult.
00:34:04.220You have your own ideas to think on that.
00:34:06.900But on the things that aren't necessarily, you know, can you express an opinion whether you think demons are behind UFO phenomena?
00:34:18.760The churches are perfectly clear on that.
00:34:21.020we're going to strip you of your of your ministry and suppress the diocesan recognition of this
00:34:27.200saint michael's retreat center so it's freedom of thought for the things where the catholic teach
00:34:35.460catholic church teaches formally but absolute wide discretion um have i got that wrong the
00:34:42.440wrong way around freedom of thought on the issues that the catholic church does teach
00:34:47.140But no leeway at all on things that really aren't so formally declared.
00:34:56.300And I repeat, I could be wrong, but I'm not aware that the Catholic Church has any teaching whatsoever on the origin of the UFO phenomenon.
00:35:08.760No. In Leo's church, in Cardinal McElroy's, it's the same church.
00:35:14.480it doesn't matter what the church teaches. In fact, what the church teaches is usually
00:35:20.780out of compliance. What matters is what they want. It's like a Nazi church. It's like they
00:35:27.440would treat you in Nazi Germany. On EWT Raymond Arroyo's show, the posse, the powerful posse,
00:35:35.660I think it's called now, Father Jerry Murray said, there's no charge here. And he didn't
00:35:41.480break Catholic teaching, and he's being treated a way that you would need to have some sort of
00:35:46.180process with. So there's no due process. There's no Catholic teaching really referenced at all.
00:35:51.640He said, you violated Catholic teaching, but where? You didn't name the teaching. What are
00:35:55.960you in trouble for? So he's just being made an example. This is sort of a racket right now of
00:36:02.680exorcisms and also illegal, I mean, aliens from outer space. They go together in this sort of
00:36:11.220way of generating media attention. But what Cardinal McElroy is doing is he's saying,
00:36:17.620if you are not in line with me, you will not have any kind of voice in media from now on.
00:36:24.240I will pull it back. And I'm making an example out of you as a Catholic in the faithful Catholic
00:36:29.680media voice. I think that's what's happening here because there's no aliens in outer space,
00:36:38.660but they, but they want, I mean, coming, visiting here, but they keep bringing up,
00:36:43.200even Father Rossetti, who was canceled, said good Catholics can believe that there's life
00:36:47.440on other planets. I don't believe it, but they can still do it. But, and Steven Spielberg's1.00
00:36:52.920coming out with a new movie and his movie said, this can really change. And he's a cultural
00:36:57.040leader. He says something very interesting in promoting this movie. This will really change
00:37:02.760the way religions, way people think and have thought about religions and the way the church
00:37:07.700teaches because if there are aliens in outer space that are alive well then who is their god
00:37:14.240and how is it so this is something that the the machine is pushing aliens and cardinal mcelroy
00:37:20.640has said this will not be stopped this is what the machine is pushing aliens catholic aliens this0.64
00:37:26.480kind of a concept's been floated ever since francis why do we have to hear about it it's silly
00:37:31.440but it's not silly to the people who rule things so it in one thing it's a swing at all of these0.63
00:37:37.320Catholic exorcist. You see, exorcism is not really that big of a deal. What's a common everyday thing
00:37:43.640are the demons that harass people every day, day in and day out in their lives. They don't make
00:37:48.360big stinks about it. The big stink from demons happens after you die. But you have to get your
00:37:53.640life right. You have to go to the sacraments and have the graces that the church can give you
00:37:58.500in order to really push off demons. It's your own demons that are the problem. What are you
00:38:03.660worrying about these demons that have these great superpowers and could be aliens. That's all just
00:38:08.440TV media stuff. You know, that's, it's all not very Catholic, but he's hit something. He's hit
00:38:14.700sort of a, a sort of a, you know, a little franchise Cardinal McElroy. He's taken a swing
00:38:21.840at this franchise and he's made himself an example. You will, you will only have media
00:38:25.900franchises. You know, they just put a lady in, an EW teen lady in charge of Leo's apparatus for1.00
00:38:31.980propaganda for media she's a woman she's not even a nun so she that's never been never happened1.00
00:38:38.580before and she's also divorced and she's not a faithful catholic at all she just makes a lot of0.65
00:38:45.120so they're consolidating the media in leo's church to make sure that this nazi church media is only
00:38:52.300giving the message exactly what that they want and they don't care whether it's catholic or not
00:38:56.280they're gonna they're gonna take you out because they decide what's catholic they're not gonna
00:39:01.240make a charge. They're not going to use any kind of legal process. And you have no freedom, like
00:39:05.880you said, Ben, you have no, the gospel has freedom. You know, if you follow the church teaching the
00:39:11.840truth, then you have freedom at everything else. But if you don't believe in any of the gospel,
00:39:16.940well, there's no freedom. And like, like Father Rossetti said, after he was canceled,
00:39:21.040I want to be obedient. I want to be obedient. I want to be obedient. Well, obedience is all you
00:39:26.160get obedience is all you get because faithfulness doesn't matter at all what matters is obedience
00:39:32.540to cardinal mcelroy and pope leo yeah um i think a lot of these senior bishops and senior cardinals
00:39:41.420are sociopaths i have said it before um i i've said on air before i thought pope francis of
00:39:49.720unhappy memory was a sociopath absolutely convinced of it um and a lot of these cardinals are i think
00:39:55.560It's just all you get from them is passive aggressive, the passive aggressive response.
00:40:02.560And I think I feel sorry for these guys who, you know, who have the call to serve Jesus Christ, have the vocation to serve Jesus Christ in the Catholic priesthood.
00:40:12.340They put themselves, as they're obliged to do, under vows of obedience to these men.0.99
00:40:19.720And it's soul-destroying to see how that obedience is misused because of the petty vanities and jealousies of these inadequate, incompetent parasites.0.99
00:40:30.740um and just listening to you talk because sadly you know we've uh we'll move on to the the the0.98
00:40:38.320the fbi the cash patel fbi sackings in just a moment which is something that i know we both
00:40:44.400want to get our teeth into but hearing you talk about this um about the suppression of the saint
00:40:50.120michael uh spiritual center are you know what i thought of it was like a rerun of card was it what
00:40:55.500was Fulton Sheen's Cardinal in New York, Spellman, Cardinal Spellman. He was a piece of work as well
00:41:02.060with a very large cupboard for skeletons. And I don't mean, when I say a large cupboard,
00:41:11.460I don't mean of the Narnia variety. But he was a guy who absolutely beat upon Fulton Sheen,
00:41:17.520who was a genuinely holy man. And it was just jealousy that Fulton Sheen had a huge popular
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00:46:08.240All right, Frank Walker, five minutes of the show left,
00:46:12.480and we're going to talk now about these, I think,
00:46:16.600according to some press reports, five or so FBI agents
00:46:23.300based up in Virginia have been fired for their part
00:46:29.840in writing this famous anti-trad Catholic memo
00:46:35.180of a couple of years ago, deliberately targeting traditional Catholics,
00:46:40.020suggesting that they are subversive and seditious
00:46:43.360and warranting the full force of the American government's surveillance system.
00:46:54.080As far as I'm aware, Frank Walker, these five agents haven't been named,
00:46:58.380but I certainly think they should be named and they should be shamed for what they did writing this memo.
00:47:05.060And of course, the moment that the memo, not the moment it was passed up the line,
00:47:11.480but the moment it became public, the then FBI director Christopher Wray immediately ordered it withdrawn.
00:47:19.640um little too little too late as far as i'm concerned but anyway uh three or four years on
00:47:25.940three years on uh justice has been served and they've been sacked what's your take on this
00:47:30.840i know our our colleague uh who's currently away on legal work liz yore has been covering
00:47:36.220and indeed reporting on this show uh quite substantially about the the these goings on
00:47:42.240what's your take on the news that these five have been dismissed beyond an applause and
00:47:48.840heartfelt thank you to fbi director cash patel it's a good reminder to how and how different
00:47:56.260things are when you have a different government it's not like it the suffering that they're
00:48:00.000they're having in ireland and northern ireland and the uk in europe here it really has made a
00:48:05.520difference this was like the next step you know they were calling uh sspx traditional catholics
00:48:12.600dangerous and violent extremists. But when Biden was in power, they did almost nothing about it.
00:48:22.380The Department of Justice, they just said, well, this isn't our policy to act like this.
00:48:25.920And we're not against Catholics, not in any way. They wouldn't admit to that real problem,
00:48:30.220is that they were targeting actual faithful Catholics to try to put pressure on them.
00:48:34.980This is so much what we would have had if we didn't have Trump in office.
00:48:42.600But to now, they've thrown out five of them as part of a bunch of other ones in this purge.
00:48:49.640A lot of the people were purged for leaning on Trump and the things that he did to Trump.
00:48:54.100And also, we've seen pressure on the Southern Poverty Law Center, who was sort of the precursor of this.
00:49:02.860Whenever the Southern Poverty Law Center would flag somebody, it seemed like the FBI would follow up.
00:49:07.620And there was a lot of traditional Catholics that were flagged by them.0.90
00:49:09.720And now we find that they were just sort of a funded operation, a phony operation with way too much money.0.66
00:49:17.160It was interesting that there's been that they didn't mention in this in this first article, but more than a thousand FBI employees actually did receive this memo and that Abigail Spanberger has tapped Stanley Mayador, who is the leader of the Richmond office where this originate.
00:49:34.420And so they're still going to end up in good places.
00:49:37.140You know, nevertheless, I think that one of the more hopeful things is still what's going on in the Trump administration, to see the reaction to having Bill Pulte put up, you know, this is a change of the subject, but Bill Pulte put up ahead of where Tulsi Gabbard just was, will probably have a positive effect because they're just having fits about it in Congress.
00:49:58.100What happens in the government is so important to protecting our rights
00:50:02.620In the UK, you don't even have police rights in that country
00:50:06.280As you discussed on your show last weekend1.00
00:50:08.420If you come to the police with a crime, a Muslim crime1.00
00:50:11.640You're going to get in trouble for reporting it1.00