WarRoom Battleground EP 1054： Raise The Colours’ “RYAN THE LION” and Germany-Based US Journalist COLLIN MCMAHON
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Summary
In this episode of the War Room, we are joined by the founder of Raan's Colours, Raan the Lion, to discuss the situation with Antifa in the UK and the recent events in Sheffield and London.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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thursday 23rd of july and no domini 2026 harnwell here at the helm i love it when we
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open the show with a cracker we've got a cracker today ryan bridge co-founder of raise the colors
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increasingly known on social media in the uk as ryan the lion ryan i'm very grateful for you
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taking time out uh i know you're you're in the car on the way always working always you never
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stop thanks for for coming in um on the show there's so much to discuss since you were on
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just a few weeks ago let's go straight into this let's go um let's start up if we will with the
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sheffield story your sheffield chapter um six arrests there we've got some footage uh that
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will play in the background as you're talking and the more you guys are doing the more you're
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getting arrested and persecuted by the authorities what happened up in the north of england earlier
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on this yeah so as you can see uh how you doing guys um as you can see this is another branch of
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our raise the colors movement that's across the uk um ryan rampage and the guys up at sheffield
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so obviously I'd have been in the thick of this,
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and they see us being the right-minded side of the fence
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There's obviously, you can see disabled people there,
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you can see women, children, people with flags,
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and then you see the masks left you see them come in with their flags with their banners and the
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main thing is their faces are covered so they're covering up something from start to finish and
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i just think the left the police and the authorities need to get a grip on the left
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in this country um i want to point out what the police said in their statement this is
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Superintendent Bloxham um Charlotte Bloxham and she says we respect the rights of everyone
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to take part in lawful and peaceful protests but we will not tolerate criminality or anti-social
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behavior um interesting putting these two things on the same plane criminality and anti-social
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behavior um it's increasingly difficult to know what country the UK is anymore it seems to have
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like Iran was famous for having morality police.
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What on earth is going on in my beloved homeland
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if the police now have to arrest people for antisocial behaviour?
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And what on earth is that even supposed to mean?
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You mean you'd think you was in North Korea or China,
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but you are actually in Sheffield, the steel city,
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these are these are men you had the minor strikes up there you had all of these and these are the
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children of those people and they are out on the streets because they are not happy with people
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from a third world coming into our country illegally breaking in and being in these hotels
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and that's the bottom line of it they're showing patriotism they're showing togetherness they're
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showing unity and all they're doing is walking down the street and let me let me explain how
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it works in the uk you have liaison officers so the people that organize this under the raise the
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Colours movement. We'll have to liaise with officers for at least two weeks before, be told
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where they can go, what their marked route is, where they can stand. So these liaison officers
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know the routes. Why don't they clear the ultra far left off those routes? Why don't they go in
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aggressively with the ultra far left? Why is it seen to this us that's always targeted? Why am I
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banned from France? Why am I banned from going to Oxford to put a flag up, for example? This is
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because the ultra far left run the high positions in our country and that's why people from third
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world countries are coming through illegally because they're allowed to it's wrong it shouldn't
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be happening and we at raise the colors are all going to get together and we're going to stop this
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and we won't stop protesting and we won't stop raising our beautiful flag um and you know it
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hurts me the six got arrested but you know i'm on separate charges at the moment for for things that
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I mean, attempting to pull somebody's hair,
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putting a flag on a lamppost where you're not meant to.
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Yet people are breaking into our country on mega dinghies today.
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And this taxi boat has gone up and down the shores of France,
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people in Sheffield don't want them in the hotels.
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it's making people scared feel alarmed distress um and these men these are men by the way these
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aren't women and children these are men from third world countries from different backgrounds
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to us we don't know who they are what their backgrounds are and what they've got and um
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you know i just say to the people up in sheffield keep going and we will come up there and we will
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be supporting you evermore tell me more about these um these rubber mega dinghies
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yes so it's been named by another news outlet today as an ultra mega dinghy um so these are
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the big so the dinghies that i intercepted in france would carry between 80 and 100 men
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um the dinghies that i stopped in france in november through the first wave of race to
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the colors movements then i went to ramsgate in the south of in the south of england where we
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seen that the mcs and the british border force security i mean this is laughable they were
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escorting the dinghies from the 12 mile line doing an exchange and handover from the french
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and what they do then is they escort and bring the dinghies into a place called ramsgate which
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is a little seaside village on the coast of england by dover um and i went there and exposed
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that these these dinghies are still they're still blown up and and the life fests are in one tub and
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you know the the belongings are in another and there's these this should be evidence
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it should be evidence and and what we want to do at raise the colors now we want to up the game
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and we want to we want to look at taking on um the government the the previous the next one
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the one going forward whatever the whatever the governments might be but we believe that if people
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are coming in 80 and 100 handed if we seize their phones and confiscated their their phones we
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believe that we would have a common dename in a phone number in that phone which would the person
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that says get on that dinghy at that time in the middle of the night and that's when they come to
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the UK in the early morning so why aren't their phones being seized as evidence so that's what
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we're going to look to do but getting back to the point of what you said about the mega the mega
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dinghies today these dinghies that have come are that big that they are carrying up to 165 people
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and we've had the first two hit the shores of the UK this morning so I'm absolutely devastated I'm
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devastated that i'm banned from france and we the fight goes on and we will not stop do you um you
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don't have any video footage yet of you and your associates going down to the coast to stop these
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mega dinghies not not not as yet not not as yet because what's happening to fellow um patriots
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around the country if you go to areas like dover they will say this is a restricted area and the
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government and the government body will film you and then they will come and kick your door off at
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whatever time in the morning and arrest you for interfering with government work and that's what
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i had in france when the french interior minister nunez seen that i was in france exposing this
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this invasion that's been going on for the last 20 years when i exposed this i got 10 trips out
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of it before i was then served with papers from our home office and shabana mahoud and she said
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there's the papers you're not allowed to go to france and i said well i've never been arrested
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i've never been convicted i've been detained in france but i haven't done anything wrong i'm only
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reporting citizen journalism so that's where we're at with that ben and it's just heartbreaking
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um you just made an appeal earlier on i'm going to repeat it again if you want people to get
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involved for you to to assist in whatever way is possible inverted commas in brackets legally
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possible they should reach out to your details that will um we'll give out your details as we
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always do in about 10 15 minutes uh i want to come back to something you said just before i
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giving out a shout out to our show sponsor the beaches as far as i will were public property
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um how can the government stop you going on to a public beach on on the south of england
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well let me explain how this happens because people that don't know they think that these
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dinghies are chancing it across the channel and literally drifting up and landing on the beaches
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at dover that is not the case the case is that the the illegal invader that is probably from
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south sudan eritrea somalia they will come through circumnavigate through africa through europe and
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they are guided all the way through these countries not via sat nav not via um satellite but by guided
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by people called ngos non-government organizations that the charities from the left that bring them
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across and they'll get them to calais and then they will escort them to the dinghies once those
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people are on these dinghies or these mega ultra dinghies that they're now going on once they're
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in the water the french maritime law states that they are not allowed to interfere they are only
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there to guide and assist if anyone falls off the boat and these people know this law and they know
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this loophole so they then will go forward and they are guided to the 12 mile line where the
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english channel meets from the french side to the english side and lo and behold every single time
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the 57 000 people done it last year our british border security force and the rlnai lifeboats are
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waiting there to pick them up and then we escort them through into um the dover dockyards and into
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a cordoned area where they get off and these people are screened um and took to a hotel a
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four or five star hotel in the uk um you know in some places there's some camps now there's 1200
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men in there and it's it's completely ludicrous these aren't chances that are just zipping across
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um and landing on a beach these are people that are are cleverly doing it through the left through
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NGOs and get into that 12 mile line and they are escorted in bed i i need to underline this point
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here that you're saying because i think there are some naive people still left of goodwill who
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believe that these are people who are chancing it uh and trying to come in um and as you point
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out this is it's an industry first by the um supervised by these and i would suspect government
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funded ngos one way or another i'd say they're getting money uh taxpayers money it's been
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fundled into them and then of course via the respective maritime services and you said they're
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bringing they're bringing them into specially cordoned off areas um once they get to the uk
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in in devo so you guys so this is this this is not they're just not breaking out out onto the
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beach where you can film them and you can intervene. These people are guided safely in
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where they are sort of onto effectively government property where they will stop you.
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You mentioned Eritrea just now that people are coming. We didn't have time for this. We're going
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to do it today. There's no time. We have footage of an Eritrean illegal invader knocking a woman
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who'd outside a nightclub unconscious simply because she refused his advances and he was
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sentenced to a a few months you guys are putting more getting more risk from your what you're doing
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putting up flags from raising the colors putting up flags on what they're now calling public
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architecture um and going down to to film the invasion you guys are running a far greater risk
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than what the invaders themselves are doing when they're coming in raping and pillaging ryan the
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um all right so ryan moving on then second story i want to talk to you about is our friends over at
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oxfordshire council they're um they're coming after your money right after the when you had
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your crown court appearance a month or so ago we left it in um to be resolved over how much
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they were going to seek or what they were going to do they now said officially that officially
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that they're going to come after you to cover their legal expenses.
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or this is where Princess Diana took the newspapers to court.
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and oxfordshire county council had little old me from raise the colors in there to to put an
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injunction on me to oppose me raising the flag of our country in that in the county of oxfordshire
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um they currently banned me from the whole of oxfordshire i'm literally only allowed to go
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through there for travel purposes to commute through um so it's it really is like china or
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north korea it really really is it's it's absolutely ludicrous um but we fight on as i
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say and you know these people have thrown figures in the air like it's cost them a hundred thousand
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pound to to deliver flag removals with road closures and and all these health and safety
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type you know lefty woke things that we have in this country yet if you're from the third world
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you can just jump on a dinghy and come across and it's not a problem so it's completely two-tier
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about this um and i i will ask you now if you'd be kind enough perhaps next week to come on because
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we have so much literally since you want about three or four weeks ago after the crown court
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appearance um so much with race the colors has happened there is one development however which
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i'm absolutely astonished about and you mentioned dr chip county council whose leader um councillor
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bearder is a liberal democrat and he's the one who's saying you know we've got to recoup our
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legal expenses from ryan bridge and company i want to say what um they're gonna have they're
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gonna have a difficulty i think making these arguments now as the courts assess costs and i'll
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tell you why because over the border in neighboring buckinghamshire the leader of their councillor who's
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a liberal democrat who's a tory councillor broadbent has spoken in the clearest terms possible
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basically in your liberty to um not i say in your liberty what he's saying is we're going to wait
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and see if there is health and safety issues of people raising the flag we're very proud of the
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union the union flag colloquially known as the union jack we're very proud of the union flag
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saint george's flag um and he said we absolutely will not spend a single penny of taxpayers money
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pulling these flags down um so whilst he's not saying to you okay ryan please come in and and
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cover the place in flags he's made it absolutely clear to his electorate to his citizens to his
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voters in in neighboring buckinghamshire council that they don't have a problem with your what
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you're doing. He's even criticised neighbouring Oxford council saying that they've gone over the
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top on this and it's pretty much a discretionary reaction to what they're doing. Now if you're
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armed with this statement from Buckinghamshire you go to court you say here you are your honour
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have a look at this. I think it will actually show that what Oxford ships and even though they won
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their court case largely I think in part to your own magnanimity in sort of agreeing to the compromise
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that you would no longer raise flags within Oxfordshire itself I actually wonder now as they
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assessed costs whether the public position of neighbouring Buckinghamshire Council should come
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into play I just want to add before giving the word back over to you where you mentioned earlier
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that you're um you're no longer allowed in Oxfordshire you have done one of the biggest boss
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maneuvers I've ever seen and that is okay so fine I'm not going to go into Oxfordshire Council to
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raise the flags so all along the borders of oxfordshire county technically not in oxford
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along the border confronting them you've raised one flag after another um which i think that that's
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that really is the churchillian fighting spirit but tell me about this um because this cost thing
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they're obviously going to try and drive you into bankruptcy here um tell me about as much as you
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can what your strategy is now when you're going to go in here as costs are discussed it seems that
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the charges i'm on and the court cases and the hearings that i'm on it seems that the the system
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and me having to get lawyers and law firms and people to defend me and people to look over
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paperwork that is the real punishments because the crime is laughable and the crime is absolutely
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um you know a laughing stock really to think that it's brought to court
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And I feel that the punishment is the actual rigmarole going through it.
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And I feel that they do it to put certain people off,
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that are just worried that they don't want to be under the court
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that my partner and my children know that this is my life
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and this is my passion and know that I won't stop.
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And I'm very fortunate that I'm in a position within my business
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where I'm the boss and I get a million emails off lefties every day
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So they're attacking my work left, right and centre.
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But the issue of what they do, because they're in such high places,
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these these people from the left um it's i feel it's a scare tactic and i feel that somebody i
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would like to know the bill of who has funded the case in oxford to take it to the high court
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because the council will not disclose how much it's actually cost now i heard that when i was
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in court there was a few multi-millionaires in that courtroom as well so maybe one of those
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has it's it's me presuming but if they're going to try and slap the the removals bill on me as
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well, I think that would be most unfair for the amount of times that we were physically there
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and for the amount of flags we've put up. Regarding Buckinghamshire and other areas
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like this, I just think it's excellent. And we have asked this week, and I'm literally
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ending a family break, to go back and I'll be in my office tomorrow with other people
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from Raise the Colours. And we are going to be sending 25 union flags and 25 St George's
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in a bundle um to 38 people all around the country that have asked for flags and we're going to be
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sending there so we do need donations to come back in to replenish and we are going to be making this
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a bigger and bigger and bigger stage um and we don't want to do it in areas to intimidate people
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this is nothing to do with race color creed religion it's to do with raising the colors
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of our flag in our country to show that we are together i've just spent five days down at the
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coast in the uk and all the seaside towns i've been to has got bunting red white and blue union
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jack bunting the flag of our countries everywhere um and nobody is saying that any of those people
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are fascists nazis far right or anything like that this should be how it is in the inner cities
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and for some reason it's not um well we know we know that yeah for some reason for some mysterious
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unknown reason um yeah all right so once again tell us about where people on social media can go
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they might want to help on the other stopping the boats the mega dingus aspect of things they might
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want to help putting the flags up in their county they might want to organize something like your
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your team were doing up in sheffield in another area that perhaps isn't quite so visible at the
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moment they want to take a leadership role how do they reach out to you to to pledge their support
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in whatever means they are able to do so i just need to make i mean to make quite clear i cannot
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encourage anybody to flag in oxford it's part of my conditions so do not put a flag up in oxford
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um even the rainbow flag or the palestinian or any other person but you can find us at
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I've been trying to get him on the show for quite some time.
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Probably the most well-connected American I know in German politics, Colin McMahon.
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You've got this article out right now, came out today in Gateway Pundit,
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and I'll flag that up now so people can go out, get it, read it, study it for themselves.
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It's a litany of horror stories here that you've described quite well.
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And if I didn't know you, I would think, oh, come on, this guy's exaggerating slightly here.
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Basically, what the situation is in Germany, and there's no exaggeration whatsoever.
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As we approach the elections in September, the certain German states, for example, Lower Saxony,
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have passed laws at the local state level allowing the state election boards
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to prohibit from standing for election anybody, but we're talking AFD here,
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anybody on whatever grounds they want to cite as long as they say
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we think this person is disloyal to the constitution.
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from what i have sort of studied on my research there appears to be no due process in this
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no serious appeal worthy of the same of the name and this is happening in not just any old country
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but one of arguably arguably the most important country of the european union which if you see
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how it's been bashing Hungary over the head constantly
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for what it said were democratic norms, abuses.
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The silence coming from Brussels is literally deafening.
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Colin, tell the war of impossible in your own words
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And we'll talk about the polls in the second half of this interview.
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because the momentum is clearly behind the afd you can see that the political establishment is
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melting down tell us in your words exactly what these election boards are entitled
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empowered and what they are doing right now well you can see from that photo i included on the
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gateway pundit article that's an actual photo from the board meeting of the election board
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in Lower Saxony, in Friesland, is the county, where they're voting.
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They're just taking a show of hands to say, oh, we think this guy can't run because we
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And this is Martin Siegert, who took the photo, who's an actual member of the Bundestag, an
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So these teachers and whatever school moms are deciding that this member of parliament
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is somehow not loyal to the Constitution and doesn't deserve to run for office.
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And of course, they're all representatives of the established parties.
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So what's going on here is basically what they call it is a ban on the party through
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That is, for years, they've been talking about banning the AFD because it's just becoming
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And now they've decided they don't have enough evidence to do that.
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They came up with a 1,000-page dossier last year put together by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, as they call it.
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It's basically the secret political police, like the Gestapo or the Stasi used to be.
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Now they call themselves Democrats, but what they're doing is surveilling the opposition, and they keep an eye on people like me as well, I found out.
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But they found out they really don't have enough evidence because they just came up with a bunch of tweets, and that was their dossier.
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and all the legal scholars just tore it apart and said this is ridiculous
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because you really need to go to the Supreme Court to ban a party.
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The original plan, and we did cover this on The War in quite some time,
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the original plan was just to prescribe totally the alternative for Deutschland,
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the AFD, just to ban it completely and say that it was a far-right party
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and a threat to the constitution the problem with that was that there was no evidence the secret
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police after doing all the intimidation all the surveillance they actually came up with no real
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evidence to back up that claim so they came up with a thousand pages of yes yes of nothing of
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nothing so if the strategy was to to suppress by law the afd from standing in the election
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that strategy was obviously going to fail so they wheeled back and said okay so we need to
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perhaps we'll do on a state-by-state basis but we will have these election boards and we'll let them
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simple vote by show of hands and as you have the the photo there um and we'll just do a simple
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majority vote and say this we think this person is disloyal to the constitution whatever that
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might mean uh and then and then they're banned and in your article you um you you the the guy
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that you just were mentioning martin secret he you said just for our american audience you say
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he's a member of the bundestag that is the lower parliament the lower the lower house in the german
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parliament in berlin so this is a sitting member of parliament like equivalent to the uh a member
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of the house of representatives who's prohibited from standing for a local office um in his home
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state uh by this show by this kangaroo court basically i want to go on um similar pretexts
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were found to block and you cover all of this in your article out today on gateway um pundit um
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ryan hilt goes who was standing to be the man her local town band we covered this on the show
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last year uh joachim powell who was standing to be mayor of his town um was blocked uh because
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of his you know i can't say this with a straight face but the pretext was necessary and the pretext
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was the evidence that he was disloyal to the constitution where they literally produced
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tweets that he put out supporting lord of the rings um and as i say germany is not just some
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peripheral country it is a key member of the the most it's the largest population largest economy
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in the european union the most fundamental nation of the european union and and we're looking here
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Have they made a single intervention on this, Colin McMahon?
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They're on the side of the oppressors, of course.
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um and it is a silence it is a silence that is particular deafening to repeat the the the
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blocking of several billion euros worth of funding to hungary when victor orban was prime minister
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for for for for their trumped up um notions that he was dissolving democracy and ironically
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And we're going to be hitting this again on tomorrow's show.
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The new prime minister, Peter Magyar, is using the same laws that Viktor Orban had to do exactly what Viktor Orban was doing.
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And again, silence from Brussels, silence from Ursula von der Leyen.
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Of course. Yeah. And the AfD will basically have to start at the bottom of the court system.
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They're going to first have to file an official complaint with the election authorities in each district where a candidate gets banned.
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And then if that is rejected, then they'll have to go to the lower district courts and then keep filing lawsuits until maybe all the way up to the Supreme Court.
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And, of course, the elections are coming up the 13th of September in Lower Saxony, 20th in Saxony-Anhalt, I think.
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where the AFD actually stands to win a majority
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do everything they can to stop it before that happens
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and spoke about precisely the collapse in democracy
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and her anger was on the part of a key NATO ally.
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as someone who knows Beatrix von Stork very well,
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have you guys had any response from the White House
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on these abuses the anti-afd uh positioning on behalf of the state following that meeting
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well they're certainly aware of what's going on i know sarah rogers is is uh in europe regularly
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on behalf of the state department uh and and beatrix told me today that she again alerted
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the white house uh in her conduct contacts in in congress to what's going on now in lower saxony
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And they'll be very interested in that. Of course, in the Republican Party, they're also very worried about the midterms. So everybody's very worried about charges of interfering in German democracy, of course. So they'll probably be using the back channels more than the public sphere. But who knows? You know, Donald Trump could go to True Social any moment now and make a fuss about this as well.
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to 989898 all right back with colin mcmahon colin um today i notice the um a poll out in germany
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which for the first time today puts the afd at the top of the polls in um in um in berlin i think
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uh on 29 or something like that um and that's also sort of pretty much pegging the national
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average of the afd right now tell me something then as we move towards um the election season
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in germany uh state by state if you if you wouldn't mind um what you're looking at and
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what you would suggest americans should be looking at uh in terms of some specific key afd
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victories up in in in september well the key one is going to be in in east germany east germany has
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always been a bastion of the afd it was a bastion of covid resistance people just know uh how to
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resist there since uh they brought the wall berlin wall down in 1989 uh they have they have revolution
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in their bones and they're just used to marching on mondays you know that's what they did 1989 and
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they just like to go out and march on mondays that's part of their part of their heritage now
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So during COVID, they were all marching on Mondays through Leipzig and towns like that, and now it's against migration.
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We remember the Pegida rallies in East Germany, in Dresden, and now it's really become the bastion of the AFD.
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They're up at 40% and over 40% in states like Saxony-Anhalt, which will be voting in September.
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And they have a really, really strong candidate, a young guy named Ulrich Siegmund, I think who really combines a lot of really good qualities.
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He's charismatic as well as thoughtful. He could go a long way.
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The AFD right now is kind of struggling with their their double leadership.
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They have this this double party chair with Alice Vidal and Tina Kupala.
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And they're kind of yin and yang. You know, they kind of they kind of complement each other.
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But but that leads to a lot of friction as well.
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She's she's, you know, a lawyer, a blonde lesbian with a business background, kind of Hayek Vienna School economist.
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And he's a down-home East German bricklayer, I think, who ran a company and is hands-on, is always in touch with the party and the party base.
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So they kind of complement each other and they kind of trip each other up sometimes too, it seems.
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So at some point, the AFD will have to figure out whether they're going left or right, who their leader is going to be.
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But right now in September, we're probably going to see a landslide in Saxony, Anahalt, and maybe in Mecklenburg, Fort Pomerang as well.
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Just on that point about the future direction of the AFD, we covered this on the show last week.
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I don't know how present this is within the AFD movement itself,
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but there was some talk, especially I think following the convention in Erfurt a couple of weeks ago,
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that the AFD might follow a line of what's being called in the press Maloneyfication,
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which is following Georgia Maloney's rush to the centre after winning election
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and just moderating across the board the party platform.
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The AFD has always been a gang of 50,000 crazy people.
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And to live in a country where Antifa rolls the streets and risk losing your job, having your car torched is, you know, takes a special kind of person.
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And so there's always been this dynamic of pushing, pulling to the left or pulling to the right that's served the party fairly well at the moment.
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And Alice Weidel and Tina Kupala have really kind of put a lid on that.
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There's really no more infighting. At the last party convention you mentioned in Erfurt, they were highly organized, highly disciplined.
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They carried through their party. These grassroots Democratic Party meetings they used to have used to just be a shambles, just chaos often.
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And now they conducted a really disciplined party convention.
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They even got up so early that Antifa couldn't block the convention.
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They had thousands and thousands of black mass militants out on the street, but they don't get up so early.
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So the AFD people were all there in the convention center by the time the Antifa people even woke up to their alarm clocks.
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So that went off really well. That was a really good sign for the cohesion in the party.
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And I don't think there's much danger of a real split right now.
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But on the point of Malone-ification itself, where are you on that suggestion?
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Well, the AFD has always had these kind of internal splits.
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Like a lot of the East Germans, you know, they were born in socialism.
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And they kind of, like Marine Le Pen, a lot of these European right-wingers are actually kind of socialist, you know.
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So there's that especially East German kind of socialist wing.
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And then there's the Vienna School, Hayek economic people who are more free market oriented.
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And that's something the party will have to work out in the watch when they finally get into power.
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They'll have to kind of figure out whether they're socialists or whether they're free market capitalists.
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You're absolutely correct that Marine Le Pen is on the left.
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On every metric, apart from the invasion, Marine Le Pen is on the left of the political spectrum.
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um i'm not a socialist myself um but it is the invasion which is the litmus test i think uh
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right now in politics and it's important to be on on the right side of that in the debate
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uh the other things can sort themselves out later if you still have a country
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just on this issue because we've got like about a minute and a half left
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tell me something about sarah wagen connect um who's on the left
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but she's a bit of a sovereign sovereignist um anti-immigration as well how does that how do you
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how does like the the social democratic party uh respond to her brand of she's a bit i mean
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you know seeing as we're talking about marine le pen i think there's a sort of a sort of overlap
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is that would that be fair do i have a is my reading just polluted too much on that from
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being a foreigner not living in germany or would you say that she's she'd be a good analog
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sarah wagen connector of of marine le pen's um policy platform yeah she has a lot of overlap
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with the east german afd for instance they they have been talking about forming coalitions i think
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she's a communist you know um i try to stay away from people like that and her party has failed
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really they haven't really uh gained any traction it's the the left the original former uh east
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german communist party which is called the left party which has gained traction because they have
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an appealing social media influencer kind of lady who's making the young kids go crazy um i don't
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think sarah bagenknecht is really going to be an issue much longer uh the next big elections roll
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roll along and and she'll probably be the history okay i think she'll know yeah um i think she's
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below the threshold isn't she um about three and a half percent or or something nationally in east
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germany she may score some points but not in not in the west right uh and the left wing party that
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you just mentioned would be die linker right die linker yes exactly they're the actual heirs of
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the actual east german communist party right right right okay um colin mcmahon as i say i've been
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wanting to get you on the show for quite some time um it's very fortuitous that we've got you on
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today uh the day this article came out um and i very strongly recommend we'll see if we get that
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out on social media so people can see it where do people go more generally on social media to keep
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up with your analysis and uh observations i'm on xander colin with two l's fr mcmahon
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there you go there you go uh and what's what's the um what's the handle
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colin fr mcmahon there you go fantastic colin very grateful come back um keep us abreast i
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think you will be coming back as we head ever so more closely to these september elections we've
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got to be watching them um you know get the voice out as well in the united states to to take in
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the White House to take serious attention to what's going on in Germany right now. My thanks,
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