00:35:00.740And now they've decided they don't have enough evidence to do that.
00:35:04.560They came up with a 1,000-page dossier last year put together by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, as they call it.
00:35:13.160It's basically the secret political police, like the Gestapo or the Stasi used to be.
00:35:18.240Now they call themselves Democrats, but what they're doing is surveilling the opposition, and they keep an eye on people like me as well, I found out.
00:35:26.460But they found out they really don't have enough evidence because they just came up with a bunch of tweets, and that was their dossier.
00:35:31.940and all the legal scholars just tore it apart and said this is ridiculous
00:35:37.180because you really need to go to the Supreme Court to ban a party.
00:35:45.060The original plan, and we did cover this on The War in quite some time,
00:35:49.240the original plan was just to prescribe totally the alternative for Deutschland,
00:35:55.340the AFD, just to ban it completely and say that it was a far-right party
00:36:00.340and a threat to the constitution the problem with that was that there was no evidence the secret
00:36:05.060police after doing all the intimidation all the surveillance they actually came up with no real
00:36:11.940evidence to back up that claim so they came up with a thousand pages of yes yes of nothing of
00:36:19.060nothing so if the strategy was to to suppress by law the afd from standing in the election
00:36:25.220that strategy was obviously going to fail so they wheeled back and said okay so we need to
00:36:29.540perhaps we'll do on a state-by-state basis but we will have these election boards and we'll let them
00:36:34.740simple vote by show of hands and as you have the the photo there um and we'll just do a simple
00:36:40.740majority vote and say this we think this person is disloyal to the constitution whatever that
00:36:47.460might mean uh and then and then they're banned and in your article you um you you the the guy
00:36:54.420that you just were mentioning martin secret he you said just for our american audience you say
00:37:01.140he's a member of the bundestag that is the lower parliament the lower the lower house in the german
00:37:06.900parliament in berlin so this is a sitting member of parliament like equivalent to the uh a member
00:37:14.260of the house of representatives who's prohibited from standing for a local office um in his home
00:37:21.220state uh by this show by this kangaroo court basically i want to go on um similar pretexts
00:37:30.380were found to block and you cover all of this in your article out today on gateway um pundit um
00:37:38.160ryan hilt goes who was standing to be the man her local town band we covered this on the show
00:37:46.380last year uh joachim powell who was standing to be mayor of his town um was blocked uh because
00:37:56.020of his you know i can't say this with a straight face but the pretext was necessary and the pretext
00:38:04.100was the evidence that he was disloyal to the constitution where they literally produced
00:38:10.940tweets that he put out supporting lord of the rings um and as i say germany is not just some
00:38:17.500peripheral country it is a key member of the the most it's the largest population largest economy
00:38:25.140in the european union the most fundamental nation of the european union and and we're looking here
00:38:32.960at the collapse in democracy in real time.
00:38:38.480And amazingly, the paladins of democracy,
00:38:43.740Ursula von der Leyen and company in Brussels,
00:38:47.980are literally, they're not saying a word.
00:38:50.160Have they made a single intervention on this, Colin McMahon?
00:38:54.320No, no, they're on the other side, of course.
00:38:56.440They're on the side of the oppressors, of course.
00:39:00.020um and it is a silence it is a silence that is particular deafening to repeat the the the
00:39:11.280blocking of several billion euros worth of funding to hungary when victor orban was prime minister
00:39:18.280for for for for their trumped up um notions that he was dissolving democracy and ironically
00:39:25.000And we're going to be hitting this again on tomorrow's show.
00:39:28.900The new prime minister, Peter Magyar, is using the same laws that Viktor Orban had to do exactly what Viktor Orban was doing.
00:39:38.640And again, silence from Brussels, silence from Ursula von der Leyen.
00:39:45.420Of course. Yeah. And the AfD will basically have to start at the bottom of the court system.
00:39:51.780They're going to first have to file an official complaint with the election authorities in each district where a candidate gets banned.
00:39:58.420And then if that is rejected, then they'll have to go to the lower district courts and then keep filing lawsuits until maybe all the way up to the Supreme Court.
00:40:09.240And, of course, the elections are coming up the 13th of September in Lower Saxony, 20th in Saxony-Anhalt, I think.
00:40:16.380and those are elections in East Germany
00:40:19.100where the AFD actually stands to win a majority
00:41:00.720as someone who knows Beatrix von Stork very well,
00:41:05.340have you guys had any response from the White House
00:41:10.960on these abuses the anti-afd uh positioning on behalf of the state following that meeting
00:41:19.800well they're certainly aware of what's going on i know sarah rogers is is uh in europe regularly
00:41:25.740on behalf of the state department uh and and beatrix told me today that she again alerted
00:41:30.660the white house uh in her conduct contacts in in congress to what's going on now in lower saxony
00:41:36.420And they'll be very interested in that. Of course, in the Republican Party, they're also very worried about the midterms. So everybody's very worried about charges of interfering in German democracy, of course. So they'll probably be using the back channels more than the public sphere. But who knows? You know, Donald Trump could go to True Social any moment now and make a fuss about this as well.
00:42:00.340all right let's come back and hit the hit the elections just first of all quick shout out
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00:42:46.440to 989898 all right back with colin mcmahon colin um today i notice the um a poll out in germany
00:42:58.620which for the first time today puts the afd at the top of the polls in um in um in berlin i think
00:43:09.600uh on 29 or something like that um and that's also sort of pretty much pegging the national
00:43:17.580average of the afd right now tell me something then as we move towards um the election season
00:43:23.440in germany uh state by state if you if you wouldn't mind um what you're looking at and
00:43:30.120what you would suggest americans should be looking at uh in terms of some specific key afd
00:43:37.240victories up in in in september well the key one is going to be in in east germany east germany has
00:43:43.620always been a bastion of the afd it was a bastion of covid resistance people just know uh how to
00:43:49.940resist there since uh they brought the wall berlin wall down in 1989 uh they have they have revolution
00:43:55.560in their bones and they're just used to marching on mondays you know that's what they did 1989 and
00:44:00.580they just like to go out and march on mondays that's part of their part of their heritage now
00:44:04.780So during COVID, they were all marching on Mondays through Leipzig and towns like that, and now it's against migration.
00:44:12.880We remember the Pegida rallies in East Germany, in Dresden, and now it's really become the bastion of the AFD.
00:44:20.280They're up at 40% and over 40% in states like Saxony-Anhalt, which will be voting in September.
00:44:26.300And they have a really, really strong candidate, a young guy named Ulrich Siegmund, I think who really combines a lot of really good qualities.
00:44:34.480He's charismatic as well as thoughtful. He could go a long way.
00:44:38.440The AFD right now is kind of struggling with their their double leadership.
00:44:42.040They have this this double party chair with Alice Vidal and Tina Kupala.
00:44:47.600And they're kind of yin and yang. You know, they kind of they kind of complement each other.
00:44:51.280But but that leads to a lot of friction as well.
00:44:53.580She's she's, you know, a lawyer, a blonde lesbian with a business background, kind of Hayek Vienna School economist.
00:45:02.920And he's a down-home East German bricklayer, I think, who ran a company and is hands-on, is always in touch with the party and the party base.
00:45:14.240So they kind of complement each other and they kind of trip each other up sometimes too, it seems.
00:45:18.540So at some point, the AFD will have to figure out whether they're going left or right, who their leader is going to be.
00:46:17.540Do you have anything to urge to the AFD?0.96
00:46:20.680The AFD has always been a gang of 50,000 crazy people.
00:46:26.700And to live in a country where Antifa rolls the streets and risk losing your job, having your car torched is, you know, takes a special kind of person.0.90
00:46:35.500It takes a special kind of crazy sometimes.
00:46:37.980And so there's always been this dynamic of pushing, pulling to the left or pulling to the right that's served the party fairly well at the moment.
00:46:49.860They were all just at war with each other.
00:46:51.660And Alice Weidel and Tina Kupala have really kind of put a lid on that.
00:46:55.080There's really no more infighting. At the last party convention you mentioned in Erfurt, they were highly organized, highly disciplined.
00:47:03.080They carried through their party. These grassroots Democratic Party meetings they used to have used to just be a shambles, just chaos often.
00:47:13.320And now they conducted a really disciplined party convention.
00:47:16.480They even got up so early that Antifa couldn't block the convention.0.86
00:47:20.760They had thousands and thousands of black mass militants out on the street, but they don't get up so early.0.66
00:47:28.000So the AFD people were all there in the convention center by the time the Antifa people even woke up to their alarm clocks.0.97
00:47:34.740So that went off really well. That was a really good sign for the cohesion in the party.
00:47:38.980And I don't think there's much danger of a real split right now.
00:47:43.460But on the point of Malone-ification itself, where are you on that suggestion?
00:47:51.560Well, the AFD has always had these kind of internal splits.
00:47:54.660Like a lot of the East Germans, you know, they were born in socialism.
00:47:58.160And they kind of, like Marine Le Pen, a lot of these European right-wingers are actually kind of socialist, you know.
00:48:06.140So there's that especially East German kind of socialist wing.
00:48:10.200And then there's the Vienna School, Hayek economic people who are more free market oriented.
00:48:16.780And that's something the party will have to work out in the watch when they finally get into power.
00:48:21.420They'll have to kind of figure out whether they're socialists or whether they're free market capitalists.
00:48:26.720You're absolutely correct that Marine Le Pen is on the left.
00:48:31.740On every metric, apart from the invasion, Marine Le Pen is on the left of the political spectrum.