Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1078： D. Michael Clary, Author “Loser Theology”; And Raise The Colours’ RYAN THE LION

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00:00:48.040 Friday, 28th of August, Anno Domini, 2026.

00:00:59.080 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:01:02.680 Well, folks, it's increasingly sort of turning out that on Wednesdays we do the show,

00:01:09.060 which is really an analysis on a lot of the developments in traditional Catholicism,

00:01:17.020 especially the traditional Catholicism that rejects either implicitly or explicitly much of what is coming out of the Vatican.

00:01:26.940 On Fridays, however, we seem to be gravitating with each passing week ever so slightly towards the Christian nationalism amongst our Protestant friends.

00:01:43.120 Specifically, I have to give a name check here to Pastor Doug Wilson and Canon Press.

00:01:50.420 And they are pushing out some blinders right now.

00:01:54.360 Absolutely fantastic books.

00:01:55.920 Let me bring on straight away D. Michael Clary, who is the author of Loser Theology.

00:02:02.340 Pastor Michael, welcome on to The War Room.

00:02:05.080 um i have to say as i was just saying to you before we um before we started rolling

00:02:11.500 i spent all afternoon reading through this book and it is absolutely remarkable really very very

00:02:20.600 good i got my pen out and i was underlining which i very rarely do with books um let's start

00:02:28.060 firstly i want to ask you about some of the insights which you mentioned in chapter one

00:02:34.780 Now, even as someone who as a commentator on Christian things, you do name names that you have certain names.

00:02:43.760 We'll get to those household names in Protestantism, household names within the Southern Baptist conventions. 0.50

00:02:52.480 They're in the crosshairs. And you do mention name names here on this.

00:02:56.860 That said, you have quite a strong endorsement of your book by Willie Rice, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention.

00:03:07.040 I want to ask you about how you got to some of these positions in a moment.

00:03:10.660 But first of all, when I saw the title Loser Theology, the first thing I thought of was Nietzsche,

00:03:17.080 who makes a very structured, like this is sort of 150 or so years ago, makes a very structured

00:03:22.200 critique of Christianity, which isn't what you're doing in the way that Nietzsche did it. 0.96

00:03:31.000 Nietzsche, of course, basically said that Christianity was a loser's religion because 0.57

00:03:37.220 it identified with the downtrodden and oppressed. Whereas, of course, Nietzsche himself, Friedrich

00:03:42.360 nature who many people and i think somewhat erroneously though i see why they do it

00:03:46.780 some people think of him as some kind of spiritual godfather to nazism and the the the uber mensch

00:03:54.420 the the over man that was very much part of the nazi ideology um i think nietzsche himself was a

00:04:01.960 far more complicated person a far more complicated thinker as well um but he make he makes the

00:04:09.660 critique of Christianity using, I suppose, some of the same, if not literally the same words,

00:04:16.020 some of the same sort of notions, but that's not what you're doing. Let's start off with this.

00:04:22.160 First of all, then in your own words, what do you mean by warning your fellow Christians 0.94

00:04:28.360 against adopting a loser theology? What does that mean in your hands?

00:04:35.200 i didn't write this as a book of political philosophy i wrote as a i am a pastor of a

00:04:42.220 church and i wrote for ordinary christians who have absorbed a kind of thinking that has been

00:04:48.400 prominent in the christian world for i mean it's got a long history as nietzsche pointed out john

00:04:53.580 jock rousseau is another but there's a version of it that's become prominent in the last 30 years or

00:04:58.960 so, that conditions Christians to accept retreat and defeat as the default state. So the norm, 0.98

00:05:06.760 the default position of a Christian is to accept defeat and to be under the thumb of tyrants as

00:05:11.900 the way things are, because when we are under the thumb of tyrants, the Bible gives us explicit

00:05:16.700 instruction about how to act faithfully in those times. So therefore, as the teaching goes,

00:05:23.200 since there is sanctification, we can grow in Christ when we are under some kind of oppression,

00:05:28.740 whenever we're suffering and going through trial. Therefore, that should be the way that we operate

00:05:33.660 generally, and we should even seek those conditions as a form of our own growth, as an

00:05:39.320 act of faith. My argument in the book is to identify and label that phenomenon, the teaching,

00:05:46.200 where it came from, and how it manifests in the lives of ordinary people, and then prescribe

00:05:50.900 the alternative, which I label that a high-agency Christianity, and that is more active, assertive,

00:05:57.480 bold and courageous in all phases of life there is to be slightly devil's advocate about this there

00:06:05.320 is something in the approach that you're critiquing a certain legitimacy in that christianity is

00:06:14.400 stronger it would appear empirically to be stronger when it is oppressed and when it sort

00:06:19.900 of absorbs the instruments of the state and is absorbed widely into the popular culture it it

00:06:26.900 there is some a certain degree of dissipation in that as a cultural force right yeah this is sort

00:06:32.740 of thing i i think to pick another lutheran um think it's a lot what um kirkegaard i think in

00:06:39.700 quite an astonishingly original way was trying to to to wake up people from um just could you

00:06:47.860 respond to that but um do you yourself think that there is a certain legitimate um angle

00:06:56.900 there that Christianity would appear to be stronger when it is an oppressed minority.

00:07:03.820 By stronger, I mean more authentic, more coherent.

00:07:11.400 Yes, and I address this in the book.

00:07:14.880 So the issue is, is that what are we commanded to do in Scripture?

00:07:18.880 And then what are we informed about that God may do that is outside of our control?

00:07:25.460 So what we're commanded to do is to seek to make the will of Christ supreme in all areas of life.

00:07:30.580 So I'm a Southern Baptist, and our Southern Baptist statement of faith called the Baptist

00:07:34.600 Faith and Message has a section on the social order, which says Christians should seek to make

00:07:39.820 the will of Christ supreme in our culture. So that's our goal. That's our mandate. In the Great

00:07:44.300 Commission, Matthew 28, Jesus said to make disciples of all nations. You could even understand

00:07:48.940 that as disciple of the nations. So our missional mandate as Christians is beyond, it's not limited

00:07:56.020 to the souls of individuals, but it has a public facing component to it. So that's what we're

00:08:01.780 called to pursue. Now the Bible tells us that it may be God's will for us to endure hardship and

00:08:08.400 trial, setbacks, even persecution and martyrdom while we're pursuing what we're committed to

00:08:14.500 pursue. What loser theology does is takes those instructions about what to do when bad things

00:08:20.800 happen and says, because we're instructed about what to do during those times, that must be the

00:08:26.360 way we should operate and seek those conditions. My rebuttal to that is that those things may happen

00:08:33.420 as God's judgment, or God could be testing us, or it could merely be the necessary debris of

00:08:40.220 raw effort. And so I see a man like Charlie Kirk as an exemplar of the sort of thing I'm advocating.

00:08:48.120 There are others, you know, William Wilberforce could be, you know, a historical example,

00:08:52.740 where both men were fighting vigorously for something they believed in, drawn from their

00:08:57.640 own Christian conviction. And in the midst of their struggle to make the will of Christ supreme,

00:09:03.660 they endured various hardships. Wilberforce, it took him over four decades to see the abolition

00:09:10.080 of the slave trade with Charlie Kirk. Unfortunately, he was murdered as, in my view, a Christian 1.00

00:09:15.340 martyr explicitly for his Christian testimony. And because he was doing more than just saying

00:09:21.200 things about Jesus, but he was applying the gospel and Christian truth to public. And so both men

00:09:27.540 were hated in their day for what they did. God used both men and both men faced incredible

00:09:32.620 opposition. So there are times when God will use our suffering and even persecution or martyrdom

00:09:39.020 to advance his purposes, or it may be that in God's sovereignty that he will not allow us to

00:09:45.940 see victory. In either case, the scriptures that comfort us in those losses are only meaningful

00:09:52.200 if we are pursuing victory. But if we give up that pursuit, then we are conceding defeat,

00:09:59.660 and we kind of lose the comfort that those scriptures offer.

00:10:03.040 you mentioned just now the martyrdoms of charlie kirk and william wilberforce

00:10:12.240 do you think you because you came close to suggesting this but you didn't say that right

00:10:19.540 so let me just ask you do you think part of the reason for the hate of them specifically of um

00:10:30.180 excuse me, Wilberforce wasn't martyred, excuse me,

00:10:33.300 the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk specifically,

00:10:37.980 do you think that part of the hatred there was because he made present Jesus Christ

00:10:46.540 so visibly and so unambiguously in the world?

00:10:52.000 Absolutely. Charlie Kirk was hated for a number of reasons,

00:10:55.340 but I think among the chief reasons why he was hated,

00:10:58.820 One is because he was very effective, very intelligent, articulate.

00:11:02.700 You could not defeat this man in debate.

00:11:05.400 Two, he always brought the receipts so he could not only assert something, but he could

00:11:09.620 give you, recite from memory, evidence of his case.

00:11:14.240 Three, and even most importantly, he was asserting Jesus Christ.

00:11:18.280 And so he was not merely a Christian who was a political activist.

00:11:21.640 He was an evangelist who would go onto college campuses and elsewhere, and he would proclaim

00:11:26.640 the good news of the gospel, that Christ died for our sins, and we can have hope and eternal life

00:11:31.140 through faith in Christ. And I would say, fourthly, is that he was politically involved,

00:11:38.000 so it wasn't limited to his Christian testimony. Lots of people do that. Ray Comfort and others

00:11:44.100 are very effective at proclaiming the gospel. But Charlie Kirk explicitly applied it in areas

00:11:49.700 where Christians typically want to be quiet, which is, this is the implications for public

00:11:55.860 policy for our christian faith and he was he was an incredible organizer and so he not only said it

00:12:03.980 he believed it he applied it and then he organized to get out the vote and you know through his

00:12:10.060 influence i mean he certainly was a major factor in helping donald trump get elected for all of

00:12:14.760 those reasons he is hated and not least among which is his explicit christian testimony

00:12:19.160 so there's like a first chapter of john there about the doctrine the darkness not recognizing

00:12:26.760 not grasping um the light stand by one moment past i'll be back with you to to dig into some

00:12:34.200 things that you mentioned in the in the book you have quite um an astounding insight um from luke

00:12:44.000 15 the the parable of the um the prodigal son i'm going to ask you about that in just

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00:16:10.940 So, Pastor Michael, just tell me then, you're talking about the parable of the prodigal son, or as some people call it, the parable of the forgiving father.

00:16:24.220 You make this argument in there that in some senses the conventional interpretation of that parable sets us up for defeat.

00:16:32.460 I think the Catholic interpretation somewhat is to suggest that all of us at some time can be cast either as the prodigal son or as the elder brother or with the grace of God as God the Father in bestowing forgiveness.

00:16:50.340 But the rather more conventional day-to-day interpretation that one hears on this is that the repentant son has a greater access into the gospel, and the orthodox observant son, the elder son, is, say, more of a conservative disposition by inclination.

00:17:18.260 And you make this quite amazing argument that in doing that, you're basically framing it to suggest that the prodigal son, you can imagine him with the piercings and the tattoos and what have you.

00:17:29.860 And that's, you know, to move forward as you do in your analogy, saying that's the kind of poster boy that churches will use for their converts.

00:17:37.940 So I'll say that that guy's sort of the progressive, even left wing son, the conservative son, the elder son, who basically never did a step wrong.

00:17:51.840 That's the conservative, right?

00:17:54.400 So in a way, the conventional framing of that sets those people who haven't seen standing.

00:18:01.800 Look, we're all in need of, I mean, that's pretty crucial.

00:18:05.080 We are all in need of the mercy and the forgiveness of God.

00:18:10.140 But the conventional framing, which is just a little bit too superficial,

00:18:15.520 does somewhat suggest that the elder son, who just basically got on, tried to do his thing, didn't sin,

00:18:22.320 didn't waste his inheritance on prostitutes

00:18:26.340 as he himself accuses the younger son of having done.

00:18:36.740 The eldest son is somewhat, as the conservative,

00:18:39.660 is set to defeat as it is.

00:18:42.120 And that's quite an interesting way

00:18:43.720 that I'd never really sort of seen it pitched before.

00:18:46.080 In your own words, recast that in an authentic way,

00:18:50.780 if you wouldn't mind, as you do in your book.

00:18:56.360 Evangelical Christians, there is sort of this fascination and strong desire to reach the lost.

00:19:04.860 And so if you think about, you know, what is the holy grail of reaching a lost person? 0.99

00:19:09.600 It is reaching somebody who is perceivably so far away from God, and they're into sex,

00:19:15.920 drugs, rock and roll, the biker gang guy, the hardened lifestyle, doing drugs and prostitutes 0.62

00:19:22.060 and that sort of thing. And the prodigal son story is a big reason why we desire that. And so in the

00:19:28.480 traditional telling of the story, you have the father with two sons. The younger son takes the

00:19:34.320 inheritance of the father and he goes off and squanders it with prostitutes and wild living. 0.60

00:19:38.280 And then he reaches the end of himself. He returns home to the father and he says, I have sinned and

00:19:44.720 I'm not worthy to be called your son. Give me a place to stay and some food to eat and I'll be a

00:19:49.780 slave. And the father says, no, of course not. You're my son. And he welcomes him back, puts a

00:19:54.640 robe on him, a ring on his finger, slaughters the fattened calf to celebrate. And so that's a

00:19:59.600 wonderful story of conversion. And it gives Christians hope that God will save anyone who

00:20:05.560 comes to faith in Jesus Christ. And so that's the encouraging part of the story. And that is often

00:20:10.380 the way the story is told. In the last 30 years or so, there's been another way of telling the

00:20:16.460 story, which I don't, I don't say that, I don't think that that's wrong. I think the way it's

00:20:20.940 applied is the error. And so the way that it has often been recast is more of focus on the elder

00:20:26.120 brother. And so the story is told by Jesus against the Pharisees to say, you begrudge the father for

00:20:33.080 his mercy towards these prodigal types. And so the Pharisees are the ones who are the elder brothers 0.76

00:20:38.420 who are legalistic and rigid and kind of hard-hearted towards the father.

00:20:44.940 Now, the way this is told in churches, oftentimes evangelical churches,

00:20:48.600 under the influence of Pastor Tim Keller in particular, who popularized this,

00:20:53.600 is the idea that it kind of maps these two brothers onto political orientations.

00:21:00.640 So the prodigal son types are the left of center, progressive type people,

00:21:05.780 and the elder brother, they're more of the conservative, straight-laced type of people.

00:21:11.940 And so the heart of God is for, you know, the prodigal son. And so the church should orient

00:21:17.720 its ministry and outreach towards the prodigal son types. We really need to reach these leftist, 0.72

00:21:22.620 progressive, hard to reach type of people. But the people that are getting in the way of that effort

00:21:27.300 are these rigid, legalistic elder brother types that are more worried about keeping the rules,

00:21:32.700 but their hearts are far from God. And so conservative Christians have been blasted 0.79

00:21:37.760 in churches and sort of told that they are, you are impeding the mission of God through your

00:21:44.180 desire to obey God and keep the rules and follow scripture. And so our very desire to honor God

00:21:50.340 with all of our lives is pathologized as an obstacle to the mission of the church. And the

00:21:57.260 target of our mission is these leftist sort of progressive type people. And in so doing,

00:22:03.320 so the conservatives, they get beat up on, they get made fun of and put down, you guys are in the

00:22:08.320 way. And church leaders say, let us focus on these really hard to reach types that we're after.

00:22:14.160 And it's a lot of Christians think like, well, I guess I need to stop being concerned about

00:22:18.500 mission and evangelism and obeying God and that kind of thing. And just kind of keep my head down

00:22:22.520 to be quiet because i've been shamed into into compliance and being silent let me take then um

00:22:31.320 in in the final couple of minutes that we have allotted in the show because i think it's in the

00:22:37.840 back of the book you you quote the um a leading evangelical and you don't name the guy until the

00:22:46.320 book itself until the first chapter itself but you um you quote um someone is saying as an example

00:22:53.060 of loser theology a prime example you say the bible you quote this this guy the bible belt is

00:22:59.700 teetering towards collapse i say let it fall we find out in the book itself in chapter one 0.78

00:23:05.300 that that's um russell moore himself of all people who says that um are you able to to tie

00:23:12.640 For example, what you're saying here about the misapplication of the parable of the prodigal son into the fight for the Christian basis of the West, which is, I think, what you're trying to do here.

00:23:31.080 That's the point of combating loser theology, isn't it?

00:23:35.900 Because what you're doing is very self-consciously part of,

00:23:40.780 hence the reference to Pastor Wilson earlier

00:23:43.220 and at his publishing house of Canon Press.

00:23:45.760 This is self-consciously part of the Christian nationalist tradition

00:23:50.400 that let's not retreat and give up and say that retreat,

00:23:57.020 paint that retreat and giving up with the veneer of piety.

00:24:00.820 Let's fight. Let's stay here where we are and fight for this and fight for the Christian nation of our countries, of America, of Italy, where I'm based, of the UK.

00:24:11.940 Can you look in the final 90 seconds? So can you do that?

00:24:15.980 Can you draw that from the prodigal son and the misapplication to how you get to the loser theology there?

00:24:23.800 And then, look, we'll obviously continue this because it's too profound what you said here to limit it to a single show.

00:24:30.000 we'll come back and pick this up at a future point yeah so what russell moore is speaking

00:24:36.660 about when he says the bible belt is teething toward collapse and i say let it fall he's

00:24:41.340 talking about what he perceives to be elder brother christianity and the and the elder

00:24:45.660 brother is the one in the in the prodigal son story so russell moore wants that to collapse

00:24:51.140 because he sees it as hypocritical and rigid and fundamentalist and so he wants that to go away

00:24:57.920 and in its place for this more left-leaning brand of Christianity to be ascendant.

00:25:04.860 And so, Pastor Doug Wilson, he has, you know, a project of Christian nationalism and whatever,

00:25:11.940 however one would define that, which is very difficult to define, at the very least, what I

00:25:16.640 would advocate for is a Christianity that is assertive and public and courageous and wants to

00:25:22.740 make the will of God applicable in society. There are those that don't want that to happen.

00:25:28.820 Russell Moore types would say, well, that's legalism and we shouldn't do that. Whereas

00:25:33.640 Pastor Doug Wilson, myself, we would both say, no, we have a duty before God. We're commanded by God

00:25:39.400 to assert the will of God and culture. And that's not being legalistic. That's not trying to convert

00:25:45.400 people by law. Rather, it is creating the conditions that orient people towards the good.

00:25:50.960 So that way, whenever they hear about Christ, they can know what the good is that they're aspiring to.

00:25:57.820 So a couple of weeks ago, we had the editor of Canon 212 as one of the leading traditional Catholic commentators on the show.

00:26:06.440 And when I asked him to name the public figure that most to him most authentically represented confident Christianity in the public square, he said Pete Hegseth.

00:26:17.140 and i think this is the opportunity that christian nationalism holds forget for now

00:26:23.780 the theological differences but this is the opportunity i think for sincere and holy spirit

00:26:30.180 filled protestants to work together with sincere and holy spirit filled traditional catholics to

00:26:37.200 save the basis of the christian west pastor michael clary very very grateful for you to come on the

00:26:43.580 show and i do hope you come back in 10 seconds where do people go to buy your book and to learn

00:26:49.300 more on you on social media easiest thing to do is go losertheology.com and then dmichaelclary.com

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00:31:39.220 Well, as we said last Friday, talking to Ryan the Lion Bridge,

00:31:44.340 who was out, I think, in a dinghy somewhere off the Greek archipelago,

00:31:50.680 he did say that he's going to be in Crete this week on a field mission,

00:31:58.540 effectively doing first-hand old gumshoe-style reporting,

00:32:05.100 actual photography and footage filmed with his own hands

00:32:10.780 of how the illegal third world invasion is taking place

00:32:17.060 with the blind eye of the authorities.

00:32:23.100 Ryan the Lion, thanks for calling in.

00:32:25.100 I know you're out there, as I say, in Crete right now.

00:32:28.060 Beautiful backdrop.

00:32:30.160 We'll hear the horror stories when you file your report

00:32:33.140 of exactly what you've been able to ascertain.

00:32:37.020 But in the meantime, there are a couple of things

00:32:38.800 that I do want to hit with you.

00:32:41.120 The first, and for folks who follow the warm show

00:32:45.320 that we do on Friday every week, these are updates.

00:32:49.040 These two stories that we're going to discuss now

00:32:51.400 have dominated the British press.

00:32:55.120 So it's great that we've got you here

00:32:56.420 because you're inside in the middle of this particular vortex

00:33:00.060 to tell us exactly what's taking place.

00:33:01.860 Firstly, then, news this week, a couple of days ago, out of Birmingham,

00:33:07.020 second largest city in the UK, Birmingham Council's putting up an injunction again

00:33:12.900 to ban, raise the colours from putting flags up.

00:33:18.360 There is a positive development out of this that we'll cover in just a couple of moments' time.

00:33:23.100 But first of all, tell us about this injunction specifically as it pertains to you guys.

00:33:28.500 hi ben obviously i can't um comment too much because we haven't actually been served any

00:33:35.720 papers whatsoever but what we have had is um speculation newspaper speculation national

00:33:42.400 also meet uh local media um speculation so it is they are they are aiming at us but they've told

00:33:48.960 my legal team told me um not to say too much but what i can say is it looks like they're following

00:33:54.640 in suit to what happened in oxford when oxfordshire county council um it you know effectively put an

00:34:02.420 injunction on us to stop putting the flag of our country up um within our country and now they've

00:34:08.460 banned me from oxford but the problem with birmingham is my it's my own local hometown

00:34:12.660 so they are going to have a struggle banning me from my own hometown and i just think that this

00:34:18.520 is yet again absolutely crazy that a council like birmingham which is government funded we are

00:34:25.100 spending government money on um on things of of you know instead of collecting the rubbish

00:34:32.440 the litter um and all sorts of things like that we are spending um the the the taxpayers money

00:34:39.940 on taking a group like us to the high court again to get an injunction to stop us putting flags up

00:34:45.660 when our country has got more serious issues at hand.

00:35:00.720 I think we lost him at 17-14.

00:35:05.100 This is a lot.

00:35:05.960 Sorry, Ben.

00:35:07.220 Oh, Ryan, you're back.

00:35:11.200 Can you hear me?

00:35:12.880 Yeah, yeah, I can hear everybody.

00:35:14.240 okay uh we lost you um will can you reset the clock to 17 14 and we'll just pick up from there

00:35:21.840 it's going to be easy because we've got this we've got the screen up at the moment

00:35:25.360 and also can you put the uh the case board um link up as well on the screen will uh which um

00:35:32.400 which is the second link for this for this hit for this segment

00:35:38.220 i can hear everybody great okay

00:35:45.740 great okay um what shall i do uh because ryan's not going to know where he was speaking when the

00:35:57.140 when he lost time shall i just pick up from here i'm back okay you're here ryan we can hear you

00:36:05.440 we can hear you now no i'm not the video um okay well should we just pick up from oh great you've

00:36:13.940 reset the thing we'll just pick up from here right okay i'll count myself in uh do you want

00:36:21.400 to start recording i'll count myself in from five can you put that can you put that screen back up

00:36:28.300 just to mask the edit the one that you had up yeah that one i'll count myself in and then fade

00:36:34.740 fade back to me and Ryan after I've started talking. Okay, five, four, three, two, one.

00:36:44.420 Ryan, on that point, when you say that Birmingham Council is wasting taxpayers' money on pursuing

00:36:51.500 these legal charges against you rather than performing its statutory civic responsibilities

00:36:59.480 It's like picking up rubbish and what have you.

00:37:01.700 Do we know yet what the legal fees are

00:37:09.840 that Oxfordshire County Council is trying to get from you?

00:37:13.040 Because I think when you came on the show before,

00:37:15.020 you indicated that they're actually going to be trying

00:37:17.300 to recoup their victorious legal case against you,

00:37:21.560 recoup the legal expenses to that case.

00:37:23.500 Do we know yet what the figure is for that?

00:37:25.900 Yes, Ben.

00:37:26.600 They've put a figure together of £80,000 for flag removal,

00:37:32.300 and they've put a figure of £40,000 for their legal fees

00:37:35.780 for a one-day trial in court.

00:37:38.620 So £120,000.

00:37:41.680 So it is quite worrying times for us at Raise the Colours,

00:37:44.320 and now it looks like Birmingham City Council have followed suit.

00:37:47.620 It is quite scary.

00:37:49.120 So we're just carrying on.

00:37:50.740 We're still doing our flag missions.

00:37:52.100 We've got people out flagging today, tonight.

00:37:54.100 We are sending flags all around the country.

00:37:56.600 as part of donations that have come in,

00:37:59.160 we're spending the money wisely on flags

00:38:00.920 and we're sending them all around the country.

00:38:03.520 And I'm obviously on a mission

00:38:04.940 that I've been doing of the Greek islands

00:38:07.180 where I'm shocked to see what's going on here in Europe.

00:38:11.200 We are being completely invaded.

00:38:13.900 There's 200 avenues for these people 1.00

00:38:17.300 to come from West Africa to Libya and across.

00:38:22.420 I've been in the islands of Eos.

00:38:24.160 I've been in Santorini, in Herodiki, I've been, and this week I'm in Crete,

00:38:29.320 where 150 small boat migrants come in this morning.

00:38:35.960 And, you know, it's shocking to see what goes on. 0.81

00:38:39.600 But what they do here, Ben, in Greece and in Crete,

00:38:43.160 is they move these people from the south of the island up to the north

00:38:49.140 and then they move them into northern Greece.

00:38:51.060 So then the borders are free and open to Rome into Europe. 0.82

00:38:54.160 So that's how they deal with the invasion that the Greeks get.

00:38:58.720 And we're just covering things like that and getting flags up.

00:39:01.420 And, you know, we'll deal with the £120,000 when that bill comes,

00:39:05.320 just like we'll deal with Birmingham City Council

00:39:07.220 when they try and do what they're doing.

00:39:10.500 But we still want to put the flags up.

00:39:13.780 Ryan, on those two points, firstly, the £120,000 in legal expenses,

00:39:20.920 that's simply what oxfordshire county council are seeking um that's not that's not been approved by

00:39:27.000 court yet no that's correct that's correct that's correct locally for us at the moment yes

00:39:32.000 and um and i think when you were this was this was the high courts the high courts of justice right

00:39:39.340 in um that case that you did uh for the royal courts of justice in in london and um my impression

00:39:46.140 of that was that the court actually tried to be incredibly fair towards you and give you guys as

00:39:51.220 much leeway as possible. So we'll stay, we'll keep observing that one. Regarding what you just said,

00:39:59.960 I repeat, you are live in Crete, Greece right now. You just said that according to your, and I want

00:40:07.480 to get this right, because I will quote you on this. You said that according to your research,

00:40:11.940 there live in the field uh there are you have ascertained that there are around 200 separate

00:40:18.480 individual avenues for invaders to enter europe is that correct is that is that the result the

00:40:26.360 correct um synthesis of your research there yeah that's quite right there's there's um over 200

00:40:34.380 routes that they that these uh people from libya can come into um the greek islands on and then

00:40:40.320 they will seek refuge on a greek island um and they're they're out of the continent of africa

00:40:45.820 and that's how that the journey starts from the people that are coming from libya this way in

00:40:50.940 tunisia um so that's that's their journey they will they will pay the smugglers to get on the

00:40:55.880 small boats and the greek guys that we've been speaking to have told me it's massive massive

00:41:01.060 business for the smugglers from greece over to um over to mainland europe and and greece so so 1.00

00:41:08.640 that's how they do it um you know they don't want them these these people on the streets of

00:41:13.880 crete and all the other islands that i've been on um and what they do is they they move them

00:41:19.280 into the mainland and then i suppose they just disappear into europe and and they're you know

00:41:24.240 end up on shores near us right standby um i'll be back to you in just 30 seconds quick shout out to

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00:42:46.560 All right, back with Ryan the Lion. So Ryan, when you were just talking now, you mentioned that even with all the injunctions taking place. And by the way, Denver, if you wouldn't mind, would you put the screen up?

00:43:01.020 um that does have you say you haven't yet heard anything that's the one perfect thank you you say

00:43:07.020 you haven't yet heard anything um from your lawyers there is officially the the details

00:43:13.960 um circulating that they haven't submitted them to yet of this court case so the public can find out

00:43:21.620 about this before yeah the defendants themselves that that is that is britain's

00:43:27.900 two-tier inverted commas justice system for you right what i wanted to ask you more specifically

00:43:33.420 is you mentioned earlier on that whilst this is taking place you and your team are going to

00:43:40.380 continue flagging um and that's great okay because you when you use the verb the flagging um

00:43:48.780 that is entering the popular culture.

00:43:55.500 And I think this just goes as an illustration

00:43:58.220 to the amount of penetration you're having now

00:44:02.320 in the national psychology.

00:44:04.760 Denver, if you wouldn't mind putting up

00:44:06.080 the Birmingham Mail headline.

00:44:08.480 Now, this is like the establishment newspaper

00:44:11.420 of Britain's second largest city.

00:44:16.280 No, that's the wrong one.

00:44:18.160 That's the wrong one. 0.76

00:44:19.280 The Birmingham male one or the purple one. 0.84

00:44:21.360 Birmingham. 0.86

00:44:22.600 Okay, you'll get it.

00:44:24.600 It's the third article on your list, I think.

00:44:27.680 Reform and conservatives back flagging

00:44:30.880 as Birmingham council pursue court bid to stop it.

00:44:34.880 That's it. Perfect.

00:44:36.000 Thanks, guys.

00:44:37.700 But the verb there, flagging,

00:44:40.020 has entered the mainstream media's popular discourse,

00:44:43.740 and that's down to Raise the Colors, I think.

00:44:47.320 uniquely, you guys have pushed this activity onto the national agenda

00:44:53.420 and you've given it the verb as well, flagging, which is superb.

00:44:59.960 When I say, however, that this is how Raise the Colors,

00:45:04.860 in just like a few months of national notoriety,

00:45:09.460 how you're driving the news agenda, and you are, I'll just say this

00:45:13.800 for our largely American audience,

00:45:15.480 that Ryan Bridge is all over the UK media,

00:45:20.000 both being written about and appearing and speaking.

00:45:26.980 Another indication of that,

00:45:28.980 of the impact that you guys are having,

00:45:30.740 and folks, if you want to support what Ryan is doing

00:45:34.100 and his team is doing in America,

00:45:36.460 you can donate, but better than donating

00:45:38.940 is to go on to the Raise the Colours website,

00:45:42.440 which we had up on the screen earlier and just get some merch that is a beautiful way to support

00:45:48.680 what what these guys are doing here's back to the headline reform and conservatives back

00:45:54.280 flagging as birmingham council pursues court bid to stop it let's break that down so as you said

00:46:00.920 yourself ryan the birmingham council is now basically trying to imitate replicate the legal

00:46:06.680 strategy of oxfordshire county council as birmingham city council start down that road

00:46:15.880 you and your presence ryan bridge have basically forced both reform and the british conservative

00:46:22.920 party into publicly supporting you um and that i think there is more than the success of the

00:46:29.960 flagging in and of itself you have now moved these two parties first reform clearly and then that

00:46:36.120 that sort of shamed somewhat the conservatives into being visible on this issue as well i don't

00:46:43.040 think that there's a um a clear indication of the success that you guys having and this ryan bridge

00:46:49.740 is exactly why the british establishment is trying to stop you is it not 100 you've hit the nail on

00:46:57.540 the head for us as a movement um and as you know this time last year i was literally putting some

00:47:04.280 flags up in my local village um i'm a father i'm a business owner i'm a you know an uncle a brother

00:47:10.540 um and whatnot i'm a normal family guy with a normal a normal couple of small businesses

00:47:15.540 um and i'm just i'm just your everyday guy but from from how it's took off now to being um you

00:47:22.820 know i walk down the street um and you know and people are saying thanks for what you're doing

00:47:27.420 keep keep going keep going and that spurs me on and every time we go out flagging the verb

00:47:33.160 we go out flagging and we we bring joy we bring happiness and we have a we have a good time and a

00:47:38.660 good laugh because we're not sat at home watching the news about the next invasion or about the next

00:47:44.160 the next migrant um attempting attempting to sexually assault uh you know a man a woman or

00:47:50.600 a child the next you know rape or murder the next we're we're out doing something that brings 0.97

00:47:56.920 communities together ryan bridge you're joining us live from crete the island of crete in greece

00:48:03.940 today where you're currently um on a on a field mission fact finding about the invasion in the

00:48:12.260 couple of two minutes that we have that will take us to the end of the show we gave quite a bit of

00:48:17.620 space last week to um the story of the rac the the the breakdown service repair guy who was

00:48:24.920 summarily dismissed by one obviously one of the two largest breakdown companies in the uk

00:48:30.880 summarily dismissed because it appeared on social media ryan bridge in some uh sort of i think sort

00:48:38.140 of sparsely involved with you speaking to you um that was enough to get the guy

00:48:42.980 dismissed i think when we carried that we were one of the as we as we broke that down last week

00:48:49.700 we were one of the first networks through that it is now in the week that has passed that is

00:48:54.700 absolutely everywhere in uk media about this guy um denver if you wouldn't mind putting up on the

00:49:01.360 screen now the very last article which you have on on the list today uh that's the one perfectly

00:49:06.700 from the sentinel rc hero sacked after showing support for raise the colors founder ryan bridge

00:49:14.340 ryan look in the in two minutes that you've got left just give us an update on what the situation

00:49:18.540 is with abdul he's a married guy with kids he has a mortgage to pay uh what has put the level of

00:49:25.860 public support since you came onto the war room last week and i spoke about this what what is the

00:49:31.880 level of support in the uk uh what's it been like over the past seven days right now well it's it's

00:49:38.500 yet again another success for us this week with the left um that can't say it's anything to do

00:49:45.440 with race, colour, creed, religion,

00:49:46.960 this guy got out of his vehicle,

00:49:48.940 come over, shook my hand and said,

00:49:51.100 Ryan, thank you, keep putting the flags up.

00:49:54.480 We all feel the same.

00:49:55.900 We're all British taxpayers.

00:49:57.720 He's a father of three.

00:49:59.160 He's also just a newly found grandfather.

00:50:01.360 He's got, you know, wife, children, mortgage,

00:50:03.360 and they have sacked him for merely getting out of his vehicle

00:50:08.280 and shaking hands whilst in his RAC uniform.

00:50:10.740 it is an absolute disgrace that the liberals of this country in the uk believe that they can

00:50:19.660 sack somebody for saying hello to ryan from raise the colors and for my views on um you know illegal

00:50:26.720 immigration and putting a flag up in my country it's also a disgrace that you know that they think

00:50:32.400 that they can um that this will go under the carpet and it won't we are standing together

00:50:37.100 and the country's standing together.

00:50:38.640 And you did get the story first

00:50:40.760 and it has gone absolutely viral.

00:50:42.800 And Abdul's now a household name.

00:50:44.540 And we've got a hashtag stand with Abdul.

00:50:50.680 Hashtag stand with Abdul.

00:50:53.000 Folks, go on to Twitter, please.

00:50:54.920 X on that and push that hashtag.

00:50:58.260 Great British patriot.

00:50:59.900 Ordinary, regular, working guy.

00:51:02.920 Let's support, do what we can for Abdul.

00:51:05.400 Okay.

00:51:05.660 Ryan Bridge

00:51:06.740 grateful for you

00:51:07.840 joining us

00:51:08.400 in the middle

00:51:09.000 of your

00:51:09.380 field mission

00:51:10.780 this week

00:51:12.000 I myself

00:51:13.760 will mention

00:51:14.360 folks

00:51:14.800 to go to

00:51:15.620 raisethecolors.org.uk

00:51:18.000 go onto that

00:51:18.780 website

00:51:19.240 raisethecolors

00:51:20.340 raisethecolors

00:51:22.100 all one word

00:51:22.900 .org.uk

00:51:23.780 and get some

00:51:24.640 merch

00:51:24.960 and help out

00:51:25.880 Ryan Bridge

00:51:26.660 and his colleagues

00:51:27.180 where else

00:51:27.920 on social media

00:51:28.720 do Ryan go

00:51:29.860 to give you guys

00:51:31.400 support

00:51:31.860 okay so we've got

00:51:33.500 a big Facebook

00:51:34.320 platform

00:51:34.900 we've got

00:51:35.340 um instagram uh we've just started tiktok and we're just going for everything so we really

00:51:40.900 appreciate everyone's support um our motto is to stop the boats go unity and uh support us where

00:51:47.860 you can thank you ever so much ryan bridge god bless you and we'll join you as ever friday friday

00:51:55.140 next week for the update that's all we've got time for today folks steve back in the chair 10 a.m

00:51:59.580 tomorrow my thanks to will at real america's voice in denver for the technical support of the show

00:52:04.640 and Vittorio Santifranco.

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Bannon's War Room - August 28, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 1078： D. Michael Clary, Author “Loser Theology”; And Raise The Colours’ RYAN THE LION

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