Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1083： GUY DAMPIER, Senior Researcher Of The Prosperity Institute; And Raise The Colours’ RYAN THE LION

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10.520 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:17.100 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:21.260 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:24.620 Where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:27.900 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.800 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.680 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.720 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:54.620 Friday, 4th of September, Anno Domini, 2026.

00:00:59.580 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's war room.

00:01:03.640 Our show tonight is going to be revolving in a certain degree

00:01:07.440 around the Reform UK conference taking place this week

00:01:11.360 at the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham,

00:01:15.720 the UK's second largest city.

00:01:20.380 Let's start the show with Guy Dampier,

00:01:22.720 who's a senior researcher at the Prosperity Institute who's there at Birmingham at the NEC

00:01:29.800 who was at the conference earlier. Guy, I did want to talk to you about a great article that you have

00:01:36.160 out right now illustrating the conveyor belt between the ongoing illegal third world invasion

00:01:45.080 into the UK and the homelessness crisis,

00:01:48.840 especially visible in our large major cities.

00:01:52.720 But seeing as you are there at the Reform UK conference,

00:01:56.640 just tell me, because I've been seeing this in the UK press,

00:02:00.440 in fact, the UK press is lit up with this,

00:02:02.220 about the protesters and the disruptions that took place

00:02:05.840 on behalf of the ultralift, the Antifa,

00:02:09.540 the activists at the conference.

00:02:11.400 You were there, you've seen all of this,

00:02:15.080 unfolding. What was the view like inside the NEC as these protesters were standing on

00:02:23.100 the seats, shouting and trying to disrupt the proceedings?

00:02:30.440 Glad to be here. So as always with right-wing party conferences, there tend to be a lot of

00:02:35.480 left-wing protesters. We had a couple of banner drops yesterday. If you're outside the NEC,

00:02:40.700 There's a sort of large group from young socialists and the Socialist Workers Party

00:02:44.380 who are accusing everyone who goes inside of being a racist.

00:02:47.520 But the big one, the most disruptive one, was the one inside the main hall, the main stage.

00:02:52.520 This is where all of Reform's senior figures have been speaking.

00:02:56.160 And so this climate group, it appears to be a climate group,

00:02:58.720 have gone out and tried to make as big of a fuss as possible.

00:03:01.060 Now, in truth, security got in there pretty quickly and pulled them out.

00:03:04.220 And it doesn't seem to have done that much.

00:03:05.680 But it's achieved what they wanted, which was to just make an annoyance about the whole thing.

00:03:10.300 Is it your view that this is something that only the left could realistically get away with?

00:03:17.860 If the right on the other end of the political spectrum had tried to do this to a left-wing conference,

00:03:25.740 I think the reaction would have been pretty different, especially from our two-tier policing in the UK.

00:03:32.940 What's your view on that?

00:03:33.760 we've seen the the rise of this term to people to policing the idea being that the police and

00:03:40.720 the authorities are dealing differently with those on the right or with people from the majority

00:03:45.020 compared to other groups particularly immigrants minorities and some others uh certainly i think

00:03:50.480 if a right-wing group was doing this regularly you would expect to see them shut down more quickly

00:03:54.060 um nonetheless it's all this is also partly just something that the left do they tend to be more

00:03:58.580 focused on protests they tend to be more focused on kicking up a fuss and in many cases like this

00:04:02.880 they also benefit from having quite a deep network of foundations and supposedly charitable bodies

00:04:08.400 who funnel stuff to them so that they can do this kind of thing.

00:04:12.940 Yeah, it'd be great to find out actually who's bankrolling all of this.

00:04:17.200 All right, so let's move on then to your article that you've got out in The Critic right now.

00:04:23.540 From the sea to streets, from sea to shining streets, to put it another way,

00:04:30.180 You talk effectively quite convincingly about the conveyor belt here of the inverted commas asylum seekers coming into the UK and ending up on the streets.

00:04:45.120 And the new prime minister, Andy Burnham, has made this commitment to find shelter for everyone who is on the streets over this winter.

00:04:54.920 um tell me about this because if people you know i don't even believe that the the government's the

00:05:02.700 uk government's official statistics that this is like 200 000 people who've come in over the last

00:05:09.460 few years i think it's a lot lot more than that and we are seeing people on the streets tell me

00:05:14.220 what you think the consequences will be if the message goes out at this stage come to the uk

00:05:19.380 and by Christmas time you will be provided with accommodation.

00:05:28.480 Well, it won't be good.

00:05:30.440 And this is a large part of why asylum seekers come,

00:05:32.260 because they know that there are strong pull factors.

00:05:34.160 They know there are things here that will sort them out.

00:05:36.200 So in Britain, we have had, I think, over 200,000.

00:05:39.460 I think the number is not too inaccurate,

00:05:41.100 but that's not too inaccurate because the government takes them

00:05:43.780 and then puts them up in hotels and gives them a certain amount of pocket money

00:05:46.640 and provides all their food and entertainment and everything else.

00:05:49.800 So for most asylum seekers coming in via the sea route,

00:05:52.340 there's no reason not to get picked up.

00:05:54.040 In the early days, there were more where they were trying to land on beaches

00:05:56.760 and just escape into the surrounding areas.

00:05:58.540 But now it's sort of part of the system.

00:06:01.540 On the other hand, we don't know how many people are coming in through lorries.

00:06:05.000 There are plenty of people who come in, overstay and simply never leave.

00:06:07.460 So there is a larger legal population in the country.

00:06:10.540 Now, most of the people who go into the asylum system,

00:06:12.760 they will be looked after by the government

00:06:14.600 because that's the legislation that's existed since the late 1990s. And most of those,

00:06:20.660 especially after they've gone through the appeals process, most of those will get asylum. Now,

00:06:24.420 we may not recognise them as asylum seekers, we might look at them and say they don't really have

00:06:27.700 a very strong claim. But the claim can be as simple as you can't return me to my country

00:06:32.060 because my country is too violent, at which point you will quite often be accepted. The minority who

00:06:37.380 are not accepted, some of those will be removed home. But in truth, if we look at the 200,000 or

00:06:42.900 so who've come on the small boats, the number of those who've been sent home is absolutely tiny.

00:06:47.080 And when you look at the amount of removals, most removers are voluntary, which means you pay them

00:06:50.820 a lump sum of money and you pay for their plane ticket. Among the ones who are involuntary,

00:06:54.900 the vast majority of those come from countries like Albania, where it's relatively easy to send

00:06:59.640 them back. If you look at countries like Eritrea or Afghanistan, it's almost impossible to ship

00:07:04.460 them. And so the tiny minority, the minority of those that don't get asylum received,

00:07:09.060 will and then cannot be removed, have nowhere to go. So they go on the streets. And then once

00:07:13.700 they're on the streets, at that point, it then becomes a government priority to deal with them

00:07:16.980 there. So it might be less good than the treatment they get elsewhere, but they are still going some

00:07:21.200 form of taxpayer subsidy for being in the country. Yeah, government priorities paid for by the

00:07:29.240 British taxpayer. For our largely American audience that might not be so directly familiar

00:07:35.420 with the Prosperity Institute.

00:07:37.440 Tell us a bit about your work there.

00:07:40.640 What would the Prosperity Institute's response be,

00:07:45.300 not only to the indigenous homelessness crisis,

00:07:49.120 but also in light of the ongoing illegal third world invasion

00:07:54.560 into the UK right now?

00:07:56.340 Because obviously anyone who's interested in prosperity

00:07:59.280 And failure, social failure, we'll also be looking at the consequences of incentives that affect human behaviour, that affects the destinations to some degree as to whether people succeed or whether they end up in taxpayer-funded, sheltered accommodation.

00:08:21.100 What are the proposals from the Prosperity Institute with regards to that homelessness crisis?

00:08:28.920 Do you agree with what the new prime minister is trying to do to take everyone who's on the streets off the streets by this winter?

00:08:38.520 So we don't have a formal view at the Prosperity Institute.

00:08:41.140 It's not an area that we have gone into ourselves, but I have worked in a homeless shelter myself and I've seen this up front.

00:08:46.120 when you're dealing with the homeless, you've got probably three groups you're really dealing

00:08:51.320 with. You've got people who have fallen through the cracks, who, if they are supported, will be

00:08:55.240 able to go on and live normal lives. In those cases, getting them into accommodation, giving

00:08:59.800 them assistance, moving them on, that is a fantastic way. The second group are the people

00:09:04.460 who have problems. Those people have no drink or drug problems. In those cases, simply housing

00:09:09.480 them is not going to fix the problem. The issue is the substance abuse. And in fact, there's a

00:09:14.160 fantastic recent article by by ned donovan who's now a south carolina policeman but used to be

00:09:18.560 in the metropolitan police where he discusses his experiences with the homelessness in britain

00:09:22.860 and he notes that the people who got housing before treatment it never worked out the people

00:09:27.720 who got treatment and then housing that was where it would work the third group within are groups

00:09:32.460 like the asylum seekers so these are people who are on the streets fundamentally because they've

00:09:36.640 come in usually legally they don't have a job they often don't speak the language terribly well

00:09:40.460 They don't have many skills. And so the street is where they end up. And then there they can live

00:09:44.540 on the charity of others. In Britain, you should simply be able to take these people who are

00:09:50.400 destitute and are living in an often very difficult circumstance and remove them to their

00:09:55.320 countries of origin. That is what you should do to deal with them. It should not be the situation

00:09:58.860 where they sort of fall between the cracks of where our legislation is and just end up eking

00:10:03.380 out a terrible existence on the streets. And in many cases, one of the issues that we have here

00:10:08.220 or the government will not help failed asylum seekers. They have something called no recourse

00:10:12.620 to public funds. So they're not supposed to receive any taxpayer funds. What will happen

00:10:16.520 is the government will fund services, and those services will then provide the services to the

00:10:21.700 asylum seekers who supposedly shouldn't have access. So for example, a housing association

00:10:25.740 will get money from the government to deal with vulnerable people, and they might use that to

00:10:29.660 look after asylum seekers who don't actually have any right to access taxpayer money. But because

00:10:33.840 happening at one remove that's counted as legal so that is another area where governments should

00:10:39.200 reform you know it's a it's a nice idea to help these people but in reality if you're helping

00:10:43.200 them to live a terrible life that's not helping at all do you just to synthesize what you just

00:10:51.560 said if i if i if i may guy um you said that for the third category the asylum seekers or invaders

00:10:59.020 choose whichever term you're most comfortable with and but they should be if they are on the

00:11:05.060 streets forget what the general situation is i mean there are many people who think whether

00:11:09.080 they're on the streets or not whether they have a job or not um whether you know they should be

00:11:15.420 returned to their own countries and that's a view i very much have some sympathy with but put that

00:11:21.220 aside and just talk let's talk about the asylum seekers that have ended up on the streets is it

00:11:26.960 your position then that they should be removed forcibly removed from the streets and returned

00:11:33.120 to their own country either voluntarily or otherwise have i correctly synthesized what

00:11:39.820 you just said on that point yes i i think if people are living on the streets and they have

00:11:44.840 no right to be here we should remove them and i actually think in the case of people who perhaps

00:11:49.480 do have a right to come here but are living on the street clearly they are incapable of supporting

00:11:53.560 themselves, and therefore they should be sent home. You get that with, for example, professional

00:11:58.480 gypsies from Eastern Europe who come and quite often set up homeless encampments. They're not

00:12:02.980 really homeless. It's just a way of them being able to carry on a fairly criminal lifestyle.

00:12:07.540 In those cases, the authorities should go in, they should say what they're doing is criminal,

00:12:10.700 and they should remove them back to their home country. Guy, stay with me. I want to come back

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00:15:54.280 Now back to Guy Dampier, the senior researcher at the Prosperity Institute. Guy, I'm coming back to the situation, if I may, about the fact that there are quite so many invaders, or to use the more polite term that you've been using on the show today, the asylum seekers on the streets of the UK.

00:16:18.880 Let me suggest this position to you.

00:16:22.560 This is my personal position immediately, right?

00:16:25.760 Immediately.

00:16:26.660 The government should go through the Inland Revenue tax codes, right?

00:16:33.900 And everybody who is in the country who has no claim to be so,

00:16:39.240 if they have a tax offering, this is my point,

00:16:43.100 because you say let's send back everyone who's on the streets.

00:16:46.300 and i i obviously concur to that and then some people say you know some people are contributing

00:16:52.280 to economic life of the uk and however they have jobs and my first point to that is yes but they're

00:16:59.080 probably going to be driving down the wages of indigenous brits and it's the same situation in

00:17:07.000 the united states the same situation here in italy so the first thing i i would do is get the

00:17:12.720 government to go to the Inland Revenue or the IOS here in America or the Agencia dell'Entrata

00:17:19.860 here in Italy. And everyone who's been paying taxes that would be equivalent to a salary that is

00:17:27.660 below the median level of the UK, I would make that argument prima facie that they're driving

00:17:34.900 down wages of the local population. By the way, when I say that, in case anyone wants to accuse

00:17:42.000 me being a nativist whatever background the the the the the the the the um the native

00:17:48.980 population might be so anyone who's been paying taxes at a low level even if they'd been doing

00:17:57.160 it regularly but at a lower than the median average for that country next flight out and

00:18:06.120 So then you send all the people out who've been driving down blue-collar wages,

00:18:12.220 and then that gives you time to deal with the issue of perhaps the professional classes,

00:18:20.540 the professional contributors, like doctors or what have you,

00:18:23.620 the NHS in the UK, heavily reliant on labor that's come in from overseas,

00:18:34.200 contributing to the life but still taking jobs away from native brits on that point

00:18:41.880 because i think that's i think that's the only way to handle this now you need to be done in

00:18:47.120 stages pick pick the people who are contribute not contributing at all contributing lease and

00:18:53.340 then have a conversation with people who are really substantially contributing on that point

00:18:57.340 you have put out an article with one of the best headlines i have seen this year which is the

00:19:03.040 asylum seeker will see you now for our american audience i and i don't know i guess this comes i

00:19:09.940 don't know how this is part of the the uk's popular imagination i don't know if it is in um

00:19:16.080 the america america as well but because we have socialized health care in the uk you don't uh you

00:19:21.720 don't go to see your doctor when it's convenient to you you go and queue and wait for many hours

00:19:27.180 and you see the doctor when it's convenient for the doctor.

00:19:31.700 And that's the consequence of having anything which is socialized.

00:19:34.740 So we had this expression in the UK, the doctor will see you now,

00:19:38.060 just to underline your place in the hierarchy, which is right at the bottom.

00:19:44.740 But you've turned that on its head and you said the asylum seeker will see you now

00:19:48.220 because hold breath, clutch pearls.

00:19:51.700 It might be that your doctor is not even in the UK legally.

00:19:55.840 Tell us about this hypothesis, Guy, because the argument put on behalf of the immigration lobby is that people are coming in and contributing to these vital services.

00:20:11.220 But one would have assumed and hoped that people who are working in the UK's hospitals as nursing staff and or indeed doctors were at least in the UK legally rather than having come in, got off the dinghy at Dover and then headed off, put on the white coat and headed off to the nearest hospital to start treating people.

00:20:34.440 What is the full horror of the situation here as your research has been uncovering?

00:20:41.220 So, as you say, the National Health Service in Britain, which is a socialist health service and therefore not a terribly good service, has been heavily reliant on foreign labour.

00:20:50.100 Now, the majority of workers in it are still British, and a large part of the reason why they're reliant on foreign labour is because it costs money to train nurses.

00:20:58.760 So what they tend to do is they tend to say, if we bring in foreign nurses and foreign doctors, we don't have to pay for their training.

00:21:03.820 And the downside to that is that often the training is not of the same quality as you would get in Britain.

00:21:07.940 and in addition that bringing lots of foreign labour means that you often have communication

00:21:11.740 problems which obviously in a hospital setting can be deadly. We've seen that in Britain where

00:21:17.360 the number of doctors on the GMC, the General Medical Council, who have been struck off are

00:21:22.840 disproportionately foreign. Sometimes that's because the training quality is lower, sometimes

00:21:26.960 it's because actually the qualifications are fake or extremely dubious. We did have an occasion a

00:21:31.640 couple of years ago where a large cohort of Nigerian nurses, they all essentially had to

00:21:36.580 have their visas re-examined because there was just endemic cheating at the test centre back

00:21:41.400 in Nigeria, and it was no longer given that their qualifications were actually accurate.

00:21:45.780 Now, in this case, it's a new proposal that asylum seekers who have got medical qualifications

00:21:51.860 should be allowed to practice as doctors. Now, on the one hand, that sounds like a very

00:21:56.000 humanitarian thing to do. It sounds like a sensible thing to do when they have skills.

00:21:59.580 But the reason to be suspicious is because in Britain, asylum seekers are legally not allowed

00:22:04.700 to work. There's been a big campaign to let them work with the idea being that they will then earn

00:22:09.800 money which will be beneficial for the economy whereas at the moment they're just a cost. But

00:22:13.660 the reality is most of the asylum seekers are a massive net fiscal negative anyway. Most of them

00:22:19.040 are very low skilled, they often have bad language skills, they're not going to do high quality work

00:22:23.460 so all you would actually be doing is allowing a new source of cheap labour particularly if you're

00:22:27.920 not able to remove them and the doctors are just being used as a wedge issue because once you've

00:22:31.620 got those in, then it's easy to say, oh, well, we should let people who might have nursing

00:22:34.960 qualifications or people who've got all sorts of potential things that could be used in the

00:22:39.740 economy. And in reality, what you'll end up with is another pull factor where asylum seekers know

00:22:43.260 once they get to Britain, they will be legally allowed to work. And what's more, they're being

00:22:46.980 put up in hotels and they're being looked after by the government. So why not?

00:22:52.560 This is such a horror story. I don't even know where to start on this.

00:22:57.720 If a British patient presents himself in a national health service, an NHS, a state-run, communist-run health service provider in the UK, and a foreign-born worker, either at an ancillary level or a physician level, treats that person,

00:23:24.540 and their qualifications aren't what they have claimed in seeking that job and the person the

00:23:34.300 patient the british citizen has been negligently treated what recourse is there for the citizen

00:23:42.460 in that situation for damages uh gross damages of negligence because that person in the nhs

00:23:50.540 should not have been there this is over and above questions you know to do to do with health injury

00:23:57.580 that one might get even um that goodwill for example and in a hospital specifically because

00:24:05.660 someone should not have been working on from frontline healthcare in hospital what what's

00:24:11.660 the recourse there well it's not really different to what you'd have for the rest so you can go after

00:24:18.300 to the NHS if the medical healthcare has been negligent, but I don't think there would be any

00:24:21.960 aggravating factor if the person should not have been working there. It would almost certainly come

00:24:26.900 up in the case, but it wouldn't be considered especially egregious beyond that. We have a

00:24:31.880 running problem with this generally in immigration. If you think about something like airplane crashes,

00:24:36.220 there's a very sophisticated system so that every time there's an airplane crash, they look at what

00:24:39.820 happened and they work out how they can fix the problems that led to that crash. We don't really

00:24:44.460 see that with the immigration system so faults occur people die and the system basically carries

00:24:49.920 on pretty much as normal unless politicians and civil servants decide to do something about it

00:24:55.060 i think that's a perfect case there um for primary legislate primary legislation to protect the

00:25:02.800 british citizen if someone is treated negligently in hospital by health care service staff that

00:25:08.700 should not have been there in the first place then that should be an additional factor in terms of

00:25:13.980 redress and compensation. I quite readily believe your explanation that's not considered to be an

00:25:22.480 additional factor over and above the general situation for compensation. Guy Dampier, very

00:25:30.160 grateful that you've come on to the show today live from Birmingham. Where do people go to find

00:25:38.440 out more about the Prosperity Institute and or to follow your own research and analysis

00:25:45.040 on social media? So you can go to prosperity.com and then you can download all of the reports

00:25:51.300 that we've published over the last few years. We also have a Twitter account, prosperity underscore

00:25:55.860 inst. And if you search for Guy Dampier, it's a pretty unusual name. So you can find me quite

00:26:00.400 easily on twitter.com. That's absolutely superb. Guy, very grateful for you, as I say, that you've

00:26:07.940 come on especially with all the excitement that's taken place at the National Exhibition Centre in

00:26:14.440 Birmingham today and please do come on again and keep us abreast with your research and I'd like

00:26:20.500 to know more about the Prosperity Institute as well because to come back to what I was saying

00:26:24.080 just a few moments ago the incentive aspect is so crucially appreciated I think more on the right

00:26:31.920 than on the left but it explains i think quite well of how people make bad decisions and are

00:26:37.900 saved from the the consequences of those bad decisions by other taxpayers folks that's all

00:26:44.540 we've got time for with guy dampier right now stay tuned because we're staying in birmingham

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00:31:36.120 welcome back let's bring on ryan bridge straight away ryan welcome um as ever to the start of the

00:31:46.800 the weekend here in in the show um got many things to talk to you about because you have

00:31:54.340 as always been in the news all week and this is one of the reasons we have to get you on the

00:31:59.420 war room to explain to us firsthand of exactly what the news cycles you've been generating in

00:32:05.700 the UK. But right now, there's something else taking place at the NEC, the National Exhibition

00:32:12.580 Centre in your beloved hometown of Birmingham right now. And the UK press is lighting up

00:32:20.740 with the fact that protesters have invaded and attempted to disrupt the conference taking place

00:32:28.100 by reform uk as we speak so seeing as you're there on the spot uh tell us exactly what you saw

00:32:36.980 so obviously we're here we've been invited to the um conference today the um reform uk pro british

00:32:45.560 pro british um party zeer youssef spoke about stopping the boats they spoke about raising the

00:32:51.780 flag raising the colors absolutely excellent with what i'm saying and what we're saying that raised

00:32:56.820 the colors and we're just over the moon that this has happened so we're there for the final speech

00:33:02.200 today and and nigel has delivered his speech effortlessly and it was brilliant and then all

00:33:09.840 of a sudden what happens the ultra far left lunatics lunatics the ultra far left as where

00:33:16.040 they're filming you can see they've stood up they're throwing um trying to throw things there's

00:33:21.340 been a security risk and another one jumped up another one jumped up it's absolutely mayhem the

00:33:28.300 ultra far left have infiltrated this and i just want to say the british security services have

00:33:32.680 done a tremendous job for the security services to clear these lunatics and it just proves and

00:33:39.860 this does us a favor so don't think they've ruined anything with what we're doing in the uk in the

00:33:45.080 right mind of of um of politics here but what they have done is showed themselves what they are

00:33:51.980 they are brain dead people that think that they can try and disrupt something by being uh violent

00:33:57.880 criminals and it's just absolutely terrible to see what they was doing today they was pushing

00:34:02.660 old people out the way they was um you know moving moving elderly pensioners were thrown there was

00:34:08.560 chairs had been disrupted and thrown and we was on the ground there at raise the colors and as we

00:34:13.460 on the ground, we'd seen what was going on

00:34:15.320 and we sort of infiltrated the one and then the next thing

00:34:17.380 another one stood up and they started

00:34:19.080 and they tried to ruin

00:34:21.420 what has been an absolutely

00:34:22.980 pro-British flag

00:34:25.140 raising, boat

00:34:27.460 stopping day and to see

00:34:29.280 what they've tried to do to disrupt it was

00:34:31.280 absolutely heartbreaking and I hope the media

00:34:33.420 don't take this on board for the whole

00:34:35.500 of the day but

00:34:36.740 it was, you know, it was

00:34:39.340 counter-terror police responded

00:34:41.400 there was a security threat to come off the stage

00:34:45.220 and then come back on.

00:34:46.400 And what Mr Farage then done is he came on the stage,

00:34:49.580 got into the crowd with us and sang Sweet Caroline

00:34:52.980 and it ended up being a bit of a party

00:34:55.740 and it made the left look like the idiots they are.

00:34:59.620 Well, I'm always going to vote for a little bit of Neil Diamond,

00:35:03.980 but tell me, how did these protesters get,

00:35:07.440 how did they get into the NEC?

00:35:10.900 It must be pretty well guarded right now.

00:35:14.820 Yeah, it's a strict, strict security.

00:35:17.780 It's ID.

00:35:19.020 You're ID in, out.

00:35:20.920 You go through many, many barriers,

00:35:23.640 many security metal detecting things.

00:35:27.520 So these people must have given their real names.

00:35:29.640 We had to have passports, driving license, two forms of ID.

00:35:33.880 It was really, really strict.

00:35:35.980 And for these people to do this,

00:35:37.820 it shows them for what they are.

00:35:39.100 and it was just, we'll get some more footage over to you guys

00:35:42.980 exclusively as normal on the war room.

00:35:45.800 And I have got, like, hands-on footage

00:35:48.260 where we helped drag one of these protesters out.

00:35:50.980 But they were just shouting and screaming, stood on chairs.

00:35:54.220 But the security services were straight on it.

00:35:56.100 And I suppose it's freedom of speech,

00:35:58.200 and these people come in and they voice their opinion.

00:36:01.520 And I think these people should get the treatment

00:36:04.900 that us at Raise the Colours get

00:36:06.880 when we have walked into places like France and said,

00:36:10.520 we don't believe that you should be coming across on small boat dinghies.

00:36:13.900 I think that we should be able to raise the flag in our country

00:36:16.340 without being threatened, like Birmingham City Council are to us, Ben, on Tuesday,

00:36:20.380 and they're threatening us that we will have to face jail

00:36:24.120 for putting the flag up of our country, in our country.

00:36:26.720 And so many pro-British people behind me have backed us today,

00:36:30.540 have really got behind us,

00:36:32.720 and I'm so, so proud of what me and my team have done

00:36:36.220 and the way that we've conducted ourselves over the last year,

00:36:39.540 and it's really made me feel, it's made me feel warm in my heart

00:36:44.100 that there's people behind us, and you guys I know are behind us

00:36:46.840 in the war room, but raising the flag of your country in your country

00:36:49.880 and trying to just say we want closed borders and legal immigration

00:36:53.040 shouldn't be a crime.

00:36:55.360 I'm going to come to RTC in just a moment, Ryan.

00:37:00.120 But before I do, before we move off the subject,

00:37:02.900 seeing as you are there in Birmingham right now,

00:37:05.180 and you were a personal witness to the Antifa protesters disrupting the events.

00:37:13.720 Just tell me what was the reaction inside the National Exhibition Centre

00:37:18.180 whilst these protests were going on on behalf of the people that were there

00:37:22.980 to hear Nigel Farage and Richard Tice and the rest of the Reform UK luminaries speak.

00:37:31.000 What was the reaction on behalf of the ordinary Brits who were there

00:37:35.140 in the face of these protests of disruption?

00:37:39.960 Yes, so when they stood on the chairs,

00:37:42.920 the ultra far left liberal lunatics

00:37:46.180 that go out in the middle of the night

00:37:47.580 and rip flags down and et cetera

00:37:49.180 and report people like me from being a patriot,

00:37:51.540 what they done is they got on the chair

00:37:53.640 and they were screaming and shouting

00:37:54.940 and trying to disrupt it.

00:37:56.560 And Mr Farage, the leader of Reform UK,

00:37:59.900 led like a true leader

00:38:00.980 and sort of starts to chanting,

00:38:03.320 boring boring and making light of it and making a joke of it while the the british security services

00:38:08.860 um went into full swing and really done a great job in in stopping the disruption nigel kept the

00:38:16.840 flow going but on the ground and on the floor where we was it was sure despair people were worried

00:38:24.260 um and it put fear into people's um fun day really and there was there was elderly people

00:38:30.380 I had to pick chairs up that had been flung around then,

00:38:32.720 where the security agencies went in, heavy-handed, and rightly so.

00:38:37.360 And I helped some elderly people get to their seats.

00:38:41.420 We ended up doing a selfie because they agreed

00:38:43.540 with what we were doing, stopping the boats,

00:38:45.300 but that's another story.

00:38:46.900 But we ended up helping those people,

00:38:49.280 and it ended up just being a bit of a laugh and a joke

00:38:51.520 when each one would stand up.

00:38:52.720 It was four counts in total, I believe,

00:38:56.660 of trying to make disruption to the events

00:38:59.620 and Nigel Farage obviously carried on speaking

00:39:03.360 and then everyone was heckling them back

00:39:05.480 and booing them back and saying, boring, boring.

00:39:08.280 So it went quite well in the end.

00:39:10.020 It made them look like the fools that they actually are.

00:39:14.120 All right, Ryan.

00:39:16.600 By the way, folks, just so you know,

00:39:19.460 when I phoned up Ryan about a quarter of an hour

00:39:23.340 before we started recording this programme,

00:39:25.940 just to run through the bullet points

00:39:29.080 of what we were going to discuss on the show he couldn't talk to me he couldn't hear me and i could

00:39:33.920 hear this in the background because everybody was coming up to him and i could literally i literally

00:39:39.040 it was difficult for me to get a word in everyone saying shaking his hand saying ryan we love what

00:39:43.920 you're doing um so that's that that's my testimony right my second hand testimony via the via the uh

00:39:51.260 via the phone i could hear this it was ongoing um this is one person after another coming up ryan

00:39:56.860 shaking your hand and i'm i am particularly happy to see that um because if there is no greater

00:40:04.320 i don't think in today's i mean obviously raise the colors is is a non-political movement and

00:40:10.920 embraces everyone who wants to support your aims um but to see how i mean there is no greater

00:40:17.220 alliance i think latent alliance between the rtc movement and reform uk so to see you there

00:40:24.300 at the conference um it's the joining i think of two very natural forces ryan i'm going to pivot

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00:43:22.300 All right, Ryan, two things I very quickly want to ask you about in the last five or so minutes of the show.

00:43:33.560 Firstly, a couple of days ago, Birmingham City Council, where you are right now, your beloved home city, is seeking a high court injunction.

00:43:44.240 I presume this is ahead of the trial itself, where they're demanding from the court.

00:43:50.120 So it's quite unusual, this, I think. They want the ability to the interim power of arrest relating to, and I quote, the unauthorized attachment of flags to street furniture.

00:44:06.580 Their argument, Ryan, seems a little bit strange to me

00:44:09.460 because they're saying that the activities of, to use the new verb,

00:44:14.320 the activities of flagging, can create highway safety risks,

00:44:19.640 obstruct visibility, interfere with highway assets,

00:44:23.940 that's basically lampposts, folks,

00:44:26.740 and contribute to tensions and disorder.

00:44:30.780 I don't know, Ryan Bridge, how they're going to make this argument

00:44:35.160 as if this is objective fact when over the border at oxfordshire county council and we discussed this

00:44:42.220 on the show recently correct me if i'm wrong and it's not oxfordshire but i think it is oxfordshire

00:44:47.280 they said the leader of their council came out and said we're not going to be spending any

00:44:50.980 of taxpayers money stopping this because we don't think it's value for money and we don't think that

00:44:56.760 there are any risks um involved at all that if it wasn't oxfordshire it was cambridgeshire i don't

00:45:02.360 remember. However, the point is, one of your neighbouring councils has a totally different

00:45:09.040 policy. Same set of facts, different municipal policy. So I don't understand, therefore,

00:45:16.200 perhaps you can explain this to me, seeing as you're right at the centre of this, and you're

00:45:20.540 going to be opposing these arguments quite forcefully. How can Birmingham City Council

00:45:25.920 make these arguments as if they are established objective facts when other councils in the UK

00:45:31.820 neighbouring councils are taking the exact opposite line this is really their private it might be

00:45:39.060 their municipal opinion but it's their it's their it's their particular opinion it's a subjective

00:45:44.320 opinion it's not objective at all that the fact that you're creating highway safety risks or

00:45:49.560 obstructing visibility or interfering with highway assets and contributing to tensions and disorder

00:45:55.580 that's just their effectively municipal opinion how can they seek i don't understand how they

00:46:01.680 can seek an interim injunction on the back of what is simply a municipal opinion that changes

00:46:10.660 from one council to the other ryan bridge thank you so this is obviously like you say it's one

00:46:18.760 council to the other and they got an interim injunction which we believe was funded by

00:46:23.580 um oxfordshire which is a very affluent area we believe it was privately funded whereas we know

00:46:29.320 for a fact that Birmingham City Council, which is government-owned council, the government

00:46:35.400 of the UK are funding the ability for them to put this into the High Court, and they

00:46:43.780 want to not only ban myself personally as number one in need name, but they want to

00:46:50.060 ban anybody from putting flags up in the UK of the UK, and we believe that it's completely

00:46:56.100 unlawful and the way that they have approached us is that i came back from my adventures where

00:47:02.300 we spoke last week and i came back on tuesday and on wednesday morning i've been served with

00:47:09.120 documents and i have had to give a response by um today at 4 p.m and then i'm in court on tuesday

00:47:17.720 and we think that there's not adequate time it's completely unlawful the case has got 500 or so

00:47:24.720 um points on it which i've sent you and it's absolutely ridiculous that anybody could get

00:47:31.400 a legal team of barrister to go through 500 odd um and let's call them um you know these are

00:47:38.700 they're surmising they're surmising that i've done this surmising that i've done that they've

00:47:42.900 said that i've put 200 000 flags up now if i put 200 000 flags up i think that i should be knighted

00:47:48.820 and i hope that you'd be voting for me to put 200 000 flags up but 200 000 flags at a cost of

00:47:56.480 2.6 million to take them down so i'm going to do a deal with the council don't spend 2.6 million of

00:48:04.040 the british taxpayers money i'm i'm taking the flags down give us designated areas where we can

00:48:09.460 have the uk flag flying in the uk and it will cost it will cost nothing because you and me on the

00:48:14.620 we're able to fund it ourselves a thousand percent um that's a great strategy by the way

00:48:22.200 um there's nothing like courts in ambiguous situations like this there's nothing that

00:48:27.080 courts like more than a than a than a non-litigation compromise scenario when they flag up 2.6 million

00:48:35.120 pounds sterling which is what this is less than three um three million dollars in in u.s terms

00:48:43.000 are they preparing to is is that their um am i being cynical here are they citing that figure

00:48:51.140 now because they're going to hit you for this figure for further for their um to recuperate

00:48:55.520 their damages and expenses oh this is so in accordance to costs and customs obviously we

00:49:04.140 got the 72 hours ago i got this notice that i have to attend court on tuesday um and then when

00:49:09.440 we got when we got that um we then thought we need a barrister and a legal team for this civil action

00:49:13.460 and when we when we got the paperwork we looked at it and it was it was that intense there was

00:49:17.860 that many statements from that many councillors governing bodies police sergeants opinions from

00:49:23.300 so many different people and we thought this is so so unfair so we've got a legal team to look at

00:49:28.640 it and even to look at it they wanted 8 000 um uk pounds 25 000 pounds to run the case so we're

00:49:36.340 going to have to do what we're doing in Oxford and go fight this one ourselves at the moment

00:49:39.840 because we haven't got the funds for that but the way that they are acquainted to the amounts per

00:49:45.580 of 2.6 million for the 200,000 flags that I'm meant to have put up which is also uh not true

00:49:52.320 um we believe that someone else is saying hello that's all we believe that they have acquainted

00:49:57.060 of this, it works out to £132 per flag. And we pay £1.40 per flag. We pay £1.40 per

00:50:06.660 flag. And then we obviously volunteer to put the flags up ourselves. So I don't know where

00:50:11.800 they've got another £129 from to take it down. It's just ludicrous. The whole case

00:50:19.200 is ludicrous. But the worrying thing for us, Ben, is that this is going to court. It

00:50:23.440 is going to the high court it is going to the high court in the land i've been there now twice

00:50:27.680 within six months i don't know anybody but princess diana that's been there uh god rest

00:50:32.920 her soul 29 years this week um and this high court is for like superstars and they are bringing

00:50:38.720 raise the colors there now it seems on a on a month to month basis um to stop us raising the

00:50:45.060 flags of our country in our country and it's just a real sad shame then that they they can't feel

00:50:52.120 the pain and hurt that we're feeling with what's going on with the illegal invasion and with us

00:50:56.340 being patriots um ryan the lion bridge founder of raise the colors live from birmingham's national

00:51:06.640 exhibition center at the party conference of reform uk which you can see in the background

00:51:12.260 ryan very grateful for you joining us today very very quickly where do people go on social media

00:51:17.240 to follow you or to buy the merch give you a hand that way thank you very much so that would help us

00:51:23.560 out if you could come over to raisethecolors.org.uk that's raisethecolors.org.uk um and you know

00:51:31.020 anything will help us at the moment we're in dire straits you can buy merchandise at raisethecolors

00:51:35.940 official.com um and yeah we just we thank you guys on the war room and hello to everybody

00:51:41.620 in the U.S. and around the world

00:51:43.480 that are patriots of their country,

00:51:45.600 love their flags,

00:51:47.280 raise the colours and stop the boats.

00:51:50.620 I have to say,

00:51:51.700 of all the things that you said today

00:51:53.740 that I agree with Ryan Bridge,

00:51:55.600 it's a knighthood for Ryan.

00:51:57.080 So Ryan, folks, let's make it happen.

00:51:59.280 So we've got time for Steve back in the chair,

00:52:01.560 10 a.m. tomorrow.

00:52:02.580 My thanks to Vittorio Santifranco

00:52:04.380 for putting this show together and Rob.

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WarRoom Battleground EP 1083： GUY DAMPIER, Senior Researcher Of The Prosperity Institute; And Raise The Colours’ RYAN THE LION

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