Bannon's War Room - September 11, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1084: German 'Catholic' Bishops Now Have Something To Worry About Other Than Their Empty Churches.....The AFD


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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:10.540 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:17.120 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:21.280 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
00:00:24.640 Where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:27.920 Mega Media.
00:00:28.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.860 War Room.
00:00:45.680 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:54.640 Good evening, 11th of September, Arnold Domini, 2026,
00:00:59.360 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:01:05.440 So there are times, you know, when we spend all week putting these shows together
00:01:10.120 and putting aside developments to go through.
00:01:15.600 And there are those days when so many things happen.
00:01:18.960 We're sort of managing right to the very end.
00:01:21.680 we've got ryan bridge from the co-founder of raise the colors to open the show today so much
00:01:30.700 going on ryan that we wanted developments from the week that we wanted to um to go through with
00:01:37.480 you and we'll try and get to them as best we can in over the next 25 minutes let's start off however
00:01:42.580 um with the story that has you at the center of it which is this this development in court just
00:01:50.880 Just to give a recap, Birmingham City Council had sought an emergency injunction with powers
00:01:59.120 of arrest specifically targeted at you guys, Ryan, and your fellow flaggers raising the
00:02:08.680 English flag, St. George's flag on lampposts, what the council in its legal papers calls
00:02:16.080 Public architecture, I think, is the word they use.
00:02:22.620 And this week you had your preliminary court hearing.
00:02:26.360 Very, very interestingly, however, is that the judge, Emma Kelly, sitting at Birmingham's High Court, adjourned the case, I think, for three weeks at the very end of September.
00:02:41.020 and she's done this in defense of you guys
00:02:43.620 because she said that the way that this is being done
00:02:45.900 and anyone watching the war room will not be surprised at this
00:02:49.440 but anyone who absorbs their news solely from the mainstream press
00:02:54.280 might be surprised
00:02:55.200 but she did this basically I think
00:02:57.300 well she said it explicitly
00:02:59.300 because she was concerned that you guys weren't going to get a fair trial as is
00:03:04.340 there are elements here to do with the European Convention on Human Rights
00:03:08.560 to do with the fair trial
00:03:10.060 And most interestingly, she's adjourned this because she says effectively that the prosecution, that is to say, the Birmingham City Council, the plaintiff, excuse me, not the prosecution, the plaintiff, hasn't particularly made its case very well.
00:03:30.000 and has made it in such a bad way that the eight named defendants in this case
00:03:38.380 don't particularly, it's not clear what the charges are based on this.
00:03:45.880 And I look at folks, I've spent six years of my life
00:03:51.000 and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of euros on cases being involved,
00:03:56.480 dragged to the court in Italy, where if only we had the judicial system in Italy, that was as
00:04:02.120 serious as the one in the UK, where the judge says basically that, you know, quite rightly,
00:04:11.460 because this is what professional judiciaries do, professional magistracies do, that courts
00:04:16.800 that are interested in balancing up, fairly balancing up charges against evidence, is that
00:04:25.580 if you don't have clear charges against you how on earth can you make the counter argument and
00:04:32.640 it's bad enough in a sense that you almost have to prove your own innocence um but but that's still
00:04:39.860 the the the uh the outer form is still necessary but if the and i've been through this folks
00:04:46.500 myself in italy if the charges are are vague and unspecific then and and they're going ahead with
00:04:54.020 the presumption of guilt. It's almost impossible to prove your innocence. That's what I found here
00:04:58.760 in Italy, where I didn't even have the benefit of jury trials. Here, however, in my beloved
00:05:05.000 homeland, I'm delighted to see that courts are sticking up for the rule of law here. Ryan,
00:05:12.580 in your own words, would you mind sharing with the Warren Posse exactly what took place in court
00:05:18.960 this week with regards to and what your lawyers are suggesting, but this might mean for the
00:05:23.900 development of the case if the case goes forward hi guys hi ben so backwards to last week when i
00:05:33.260 was on the war room and we reported live from the reform party conference i would literally got home
00:05:39.260 the day before and got the 285 page documents that was pushed through my door i found out about this
00:05:47.180 off the Birmingham Mail News.
00:05:49.560 And basically, I've just been in a whirlwind
00:05:53.300 for sort of six days thinking,
00:05:55.040 how am I going to plough through this paperwork?
00:05:56.880 So when it comes to this civil injunction against me
00:06:00.380 and the other seven people in the party,
00:06:03.900 we thought to ourselves,
00:06:05.560 how are we going to get a barrister and lawyers
00:06:09.280 to look at a case?
00:06:11.300 Number one, they've only got six days to do it.
00:06:13.400 Number two, it's absolutely massive.
00:06:16.680 The council, Birmingham City Council, the second biggest council in the country.
00:06:23.480 And we're fighting these.
00:06:24.620 So to get a barrister to take it on, it was absolutely a nightmare.
00:06:28.340 So what I thought I'd do is I thought, right, this is my country.
00:06:32.240 This is my flag.
00:06:33.160 I will represent myself.
00:06:34.840 So I went in there.
00:06:36.060 I represented myself.
00:06:37.540 I didn't consent to take an undertaking of the injunction
00:06:41.160 because I see the evidence that Birmingham City Council
00:06:45.780 that are bankrupt, they are really struggling
00:06:52.380 with collecting refuge and rubbish in the council.
00:06:55.240 There's strikes on all the time.
00:06:57.560 The pothole situation on the roads is just horrific.
00:07:03.420 And there's no council now that you can actually sue.
00:07:06.620 You have to take your case to some tribunal or something like that
00:07:10.220 when you have one of these accidents.
00:07:11.600 So I thought to myself, I'm going to try and represent myself.
00:07:15.780 okay zoom out stop tea time time out
00:07:22.020 this is pretty rare what the judge has done to grant an adjournment in this situation um
00:07:32.240 are you telling me folks because there are times when i'm able to uh in bringing a guest on the
00:07:38.500 war and there's time when i'm able to to go through all the material underlining preparing
00:07:43.940 myself googling certain legal minutiae that's not the case here i i'm sort of learning having
00:07:50.800 done a bit of research that i i'm learning as we go on this one right so i'm learning this for the
00:07:56.880 first time this achievement which is which is a great achievement right that the judge has said
00:08:02.020 no no no um because she could have easily have steam while steamrolled this she said no no no
00:08:07.240 the charges aren't
00:08:10.180 vague, it's not clear of the name
00:08:12.620 defendants, which charges relate to each
00:08:14.620 defendant, so I'm going to
00:08:16.480 grant an adjournment here
00:08:18.400 in the interests
00:08:19.280 of due process
00:08:21.920 are you telling me, Ryan Bridge
00:08:24.220 that this achievement
00:08:26.100 was done by you yourself
00:08:28.520 representing yourself
00:08:29.860 and not pinched by
00:08:31.460 barristers, there's no
00:08:34.060 rumble of the bailey here, that you
00:08:35.880 you did this all by yourself that is remarkable that is that really does show right that really
00:08:41.840 does show that the weakness of birmingham city council's case because they certainly will have
00:08:48.940 got very expensive lawyers um to push their side of the argument on this yeah so i mean you can
00:08:55.980 picture it now i'm in the courthouse these people have got the the wigs on that they wear in the uk
00:09:00.040 and it's it's all very formal and there's there's me stood there with some paperwork shuffling my
00:09:05.060 paperwork and uh looking them in the eye and you know it was daunting and we went through it but
00:09:11.960 at the end of the day we seen holes in this in this case in this story in this
00:09:19.040 fiasco and unfortunately for me but unfortunately for the for the country i've been in the high
00:09:26.220 court in london um within the last six months the same sort of thing so i'm sort of know how the
00:09:31.760 how the role was going to go so what i've then done then is we then got served papers within 24
00:09:39.280 hours with a usb stick posted through my door and i thought this is just so unprofessional
00:09:44.740 so i stood up i said you know my lady um i respect the course and i respect everything and
00:09:49.560 um we just want fair time we want adequate time to go through this correctly and i have got the
00:09:56.340 answers to everything i've done a pre-prepared statement handed it to her um and she's done an
00:10:02.120 undertaking on the rest of the guys and they would not offer me an undertaking and offer person number
00:10:09.580 eight a person number eight is a really good one because person number eight of question is
00:10:14.840 persons unknown so that can mean if you come to birmingham ben and help me put flags up or come
00:10:21.640 to the uk you can be classed as birmingham unknown and that's the loophole that they're
00:10:26.480 trying to do so i thought they're just trying to completely block us out and the most hurtful
00:10:32.080 thing for me is that this is my council where my my hometown where i live the second biggest city
00:10:38.240 in the uk and they are wasting tens of thousands of legal hours pounds money on trying to stop us
00:10:46.820 putting a flag up in our country of our country it's just it blows my brains it really does
00:10:51.920 um on the one point here the council is insisting that the activity of flagging and to use the
00:11:01.120 newly coined verb that is already quite widely picked up in the mainstream media and is a public
00:11:08.960 hazard and i do hope that that you make it i would have said ordinarily that that you feed this over
00:11:15.620 to your lawyers, but seeing as you're representing yourself on this,
00:11:19.040 that you make the argument, as we've discussed before,
00:11:21.460 that they can't make that argument since the Oxfordshire Council,
00:11:26.220 Cambridgeshire Council, have said we're not going to spend
00:11:29.800 a single penny on pulling these flags down.
00:11:32.820 They've basically, line by line, refuted every single one
00:11:35.540 of the arguments that Birmingham Council has made.
00:11:38.200 So it's going to be difficult, I think, for the plaintiff in this case
00:11:44.580 to make this argument that in addition to all the reasons you've suggested
00:11:48.780 that what you're doing is a public health hazard
00:11:51.020 because other councils have policies diametrically opposed
00:11:55.080 to what Birmingham Council is maintaining,
00:11:58.580 which illustrates that the Birmingham position
00:12:00.740 is simply a personal position of preference
00:12:04.860 rather than one based on objective fact.
00:12:07.600 Now, have I read that correctly?
00:12:10.280 You have.
00:12:11.040 So they are saying that they would like to exercise
00:12:14.520 the right to arrest me, powers of arrest to be imposed.
00:12:19.720 So that would take, if I was on your great show tonight
00:12:23.440 and I said, I encourage people to,
00:12:25.960 which I'm not saying this because I don't want to get arrested,
00:12:28.160 I encourage people to put flags up in Birmingham.
00:12:30.700 That is an arrestable offence if this injunction is imposed.
00:12:33.900 If I say to people, well done, I think the flags look nice
00:12:36.780 and I do anything on my network of social media
00:12:40.300 to make the flag in Moorish, I think the term was.
00:12:45.500 And the other thing that they've done
00:12:46.940 is the damage of council infrastructure.
00:12:50.600 So that they are saying that this flag,
00:12:53.260 which weighs near on 20 grams at most,
00:12:57.980 Old English grams,
00:13:00.740 this flag is damaging council infrastructure, the lamppost.
00:13:05.200 It's a nylon flag that flows in the wind.
00:13:07.720 It looks beautiful.
00:13:08.440 You've seen loads and loads of them that we've put up over the cities across the UK.
00:13:15.860 But the most scary thing for me now, Ben, is that they will not give me an undertaking.
00:13:22.020 They will not let me off the hook.
00:13:23.860 And they are solely going for me and me only on my own because of the passion, the love, I believe, that I'm putting into this.
00:13:30.780 And they have set the bill for removals of flags that I have put up at £2.6 million sterling.
00:13:43.280 And I mean, if they got half of it, a quarter of it, it's a scary, scary figure.
00:13:50.400 And it is a scary figure.
00:13:52.140 And that's the figure that's in the newspapers.
00:13:54.280 It's in, you know, on that day we was in court, I was reported on every hour.
00:13:59.840 I sent you the headlines, they were bumper to bumper to bumper
00:14:02.580 all the way through the day.
00:14:04.320 We had people outside with drums, with Bhangra drums
00:14:07.840 from the Asian community, from the Jamaican community,
00:14:11.600 from the Indian community,
00:14:13.600 and it was just a sea of togetherness, a sea of unity.
00:14:19.560 Everybody loved their country. 0.94
00:14:21.460 Everybody said, this is absolutely ridiculous. 0.81
00:14:24.220 There was more reporters outside than clerks 0.96
00:14:27.780 and judges and jury and stuff like that.
00:14:31.360 It was an absolute farce.
00:14:33.280 And I just think that all this money could be spent
00:14:36.000 on my beautiful city, getting it back to its standard
00:14:39.140 and state that it used to be.
00:14:40.480 And I just feel that we're really concentrating in the UK
00:14:43.020 on things that aren't important.
00:14:45.500 When we are getting invaded, our security services 1.00
00:14:49.500 are getting beat by a rubber dingo every single week, 1.00
00:14:53.120 and it's just not right. 0.96
00:14:54.260 the British government is
00:14:58.640 or the succession of British governments
00:15:00.740 are focusing
00:15:02.060 you said they're not focusing on
00:15:04.780 what's really important, they are absolutely
00:15:06.500 focusing on what's important to them
00:15:08.600 which is the continuation
00:15:10.140 of the invasion
00:15:11.640 we've got some other stories
00:15:14.520 developments that we're going to go through now
00:15:16.120 I just want to say, it warms
00:15:18.140 the cockles of my cynical heart 1.00
00:15:20.440 however, to see British
00:15:21.880 justice
00:15:22.900 um speaking up for the for the for the defendants in this case when it comes to
00:15:29.360 rule of law the determination of guilt um uh the supplying of evidence of wrongdoing in order to
00:15:37.860 weigh these things up these things are elemental to a free society and everything else that is
00:15:43.360 going wrong in the uk right now at least in this instance and i have to say uh also when you were
00:15:49.040 before the Royal Courts of, which was it, the High Court?
00:15:52.380 The Courts of Justice.
00:15:54.580 The High Court.
00:15:56.160 And even there, the judge seemed as predisposed as possible
00:16:03.300 to hearing both sides fairly
00:16:06.060 and wasn't just going to push through whatever the local authorities
00:16:11.340 were insisting on.
00:16:13.780 Ryan, stay with me.
00:16:14.700 We'll come back to you in two minutes.
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00:19:36.660 Alright, okay, back now with Ryan Bridge, founder of Raise the Colors.
00:19:42.920 Ryan, let's go to this story. We're not going to have time to hit both stories today.
00:19:47.500 Let's go to this one that was covered in The Times.
00:19:51.400 where a whistleblower who was, or might still be, one of the civil servants involved in vetting the asylum seeker claims
00:20:05.680 has broken out anonymously and said basically just 1% of these asylum claims are genuine.
00:20:14.620 But more horrific than that is that he then goes through and exposes all of the officially sanctioned excuses that are used and schooled with asylum seekers, or as we call them on the show, invaders, on how to game the system.
00:20:35.160 And you hear the horrific stories here. And this is, as I repeat, this is on the other side of the system. This is from the side of the system that is vetting this. And he's saying that the Home Office, that the scrutineers of these claims are given no assistance whatsoever in refusing faulty applications. And the pressure is on to basically accept them. 0.90
00:21:01.320 So it's clearly hand in glove. Ryan, this is something that you've pointed out constantly on the show when you're there on the beach in Dover and elsewhere.
00:21:11.300 As you see, the ding is coming in. You say that this is basically done with the connivance of the British authorities.
00:21:17.300 And it's definitely that that's definitely the case when it comes to the paperwork that these invaders are filling out. 0.90
00:21:24.080 You have cases where people are coming in, hundreds of young guys from Pakistan claiming that they're in homosexual relationships and therefore fear being sent back to Pakistan. 0.94
00:21:36.180 But the evidence that they have to cite that they are homosexual is that they're providing a letter from their notional gay lover saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're in a relationship.
00:21:47.460 And it's the same letter that's being used by hundreds of different guys. 0.86
00:21:52.040 Well, it could be true. It could be true, but it's more likely to be a scam. Likewise, I think, was it Kurdistan? Kurdistan, where they're all coming in from, and they're all saying, oh, you know, we need to seek asylum in the UK because we've been having a relationship with the daughter of the prime minister of Kurdistan.
00:22:15.140 and hundreds and hundreds of guys
00:22:16.500 all claiming to be having a relationship,
00:22:19.100 an illicit relationship with the same girl.
00:22:21.040 Well, of course, it could be true. 0.51
00:22:22.020 She could be the Middle East's most well-known slapper.
00:22:25.160 But then again, it's more likely to be a hoax, 0.99
00:22:28.720 more likely to be a hoax,
00:22:31.380 of which the British government is playing its part
00:22:36.480 because, to come back to the point we're mentioning
00:22:39.020 just before the break,
00:22:40.900 giving sustenance to the invasion
00:22:44.660 is the importance for our political elite, Ryan.
00:22:50.160 You say, again, to go back to this point,
00:22:52.100 they're not focusing on issues that are important.
00:22:54.820 Let's correct that line together.
00:22:56.480 They are not focusing on issues which are important to the British people.
00:23:01.700 They are focusing very much on the issue which is important to them, 0.99
00:23:05.340 which is furthering the illegal third world invasion. 0.97
00:23:08.700 Ryan, you've seen the story just like in the two minutes that we have left,
00:23:11.920 And we'll obviously continue this
00:23:13.440 We'll roll this forward to next Friday as well
00:23:16.260 Tell us again
00:23:17.740 Because this Home Office whistleblower
00:23:21.220 Has corroborated and confirmed
00:23:23.700 Everything that you ever said
00:23:25.660 Both on this show and elsewhere
00:23:27.480 What's the full horror of this story?
00:23:30.380 Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely disgusting
00:23:32.920 And the good thing is
00:23:34.920 Since we were doing what we were doing
00:23:36.440 Going on them beaches
00:23:37.240 Showing people the camps
00:23:38.360 Showing people how easy it was
00:23:39.800 To navigate into the UK
00:23:40.900 when the uk now decide we're going to vet some people and they vet them they all give the same
00:23:47.660 date of birth the first of january and it's 1998 so they all stay under that threshold they've all
00:23:54.600 got the same age and it's the same thing with whistleblowers now are coming out and we encourage
00:23:59.640 these whistleblowers we encourage these people that are working in government organizations and
00:24:04.340 and they believe there is corruption,
00:24:05.900 they believe there is deceit and lies,
00:24:07.760 to come out, inbox us at the Facebook
00:24:13.200 on raisethecolours.org.uk or Facebook, Instagram,
00:24:16.140 any of those channels.
00:24:18.280 And we will have your...
00:24:19.720 The independent journalism is the only way
00:24:22.880 that we can get these stories over to people like you guys
00:24:26.400 because it's absolutely shocking that these people think 1.00
00:24:30.360 that we are so stupid. 0.99
00:24:32.580 But the other thing that's shocking, and the most scary thing is, is that we, the Home Office, are just, and the Border Force, are just navigating this and letting it happen. 1.00
00:24:45.960 And this is why we must go after the NGOs.
00:24:48.520 This is contractual.
00:24:49.920 This is completely contractual.
00:24:51.820 And the government know all about it.
00:24:53.640 And I want to speak to all the fat cats that are in Serco.
00:24:56.700 I want to see how Serco tend that and win their contracts.
00:25:00.000 I want to know who does the heating, the plumbing, the gas contracts,
00:25:04.760 the food contracts on these, you know, on these hotels, HMOs. 1.00
00:25:12.240 It's absolutely disgusting.
00:25:13.980 And this week, we have not only seen that these people are lying
00:25:18.280 about their age, but now that they're all doing what you've just spoken 0.99
00:25:25.260 about there Ben with it blows my brains that we are so stupid to to to go with this farce 0.98
00:25:32.820 yeah I mean it's it's clear the level now of institution-wide gaslighting um the the bit 0.97
00:25:40.580 so many takeaways from the interview but the guy basically says here that the attitude inside the
00:25:45.660 home office is that you're actually there to provide a service to the asylum seekers not a
00:25:50.700 service to the country and that i think that's in a in a single phrase that's it look 30 seconds
00:25:56.220 ryan give us an update i know there's um that abdul has been um in the tribunal all day just
00:26:03.520 give us 30 seconds 30 seconds rac abdul we're gonna see rac abdul next week hopefully and
00:26:11.040 hopefully rac are gonna give him his job back but if not we're gonna help him um and hopefully
00:26:16.820 we'll see what they've got to say follow us at raise the colors dot uk but that's it bring it
00:26:23.200 on the screen thanks very much denver um go to raise the colors there um and get some merch
00:26:31.800 and give ryan um some help ryan i just wanted to say with regards to abdul whatever happens
00:26:37.900 rac must know that the british public are watching their every move on this they they can do what
00:26:44.340 they like but if they if they think they're going to sack someone for simply shaking your hand on a
00:26:49.420 public street and get away with that without a fight back they've got another thing coming
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00:31:56.500 Well, a couple of weeks ago, we had Colin McMahon on the show.
00:31:59.800 And one of the things he mentioned in passing there is this new cultivation, if that's the correct word, of laboratory prepared meat.
00:32:10.780 And he'd mentioned this practice that's taking place in the Netherlands.
00:32:14.380 but also in America of using, if I've got this right, spinal fluid extracted from calf embryos
00:32:25.860 as used in the preparation of this abomination.
00:32:33.440 To help navigate this, we've got Joes Ubels, the vice president of the Farmers Defence Force
00:32:42.560 um in the Netherlands joining us Joss thanks for coming on the show what can you tell us
00:32:47.380 about this practice is that out is that actually what's taking place right now
00:32:52.360 yeah well it shouldn't be true but it's actually true and they are taking spinal fluid they are
00:32:59.860 taking fetal bovine serum from unborn calf so um yeah it's horrific to hear they use this for the
00:33:07.180 production of they call this lab-grown meat in my uh conception this is industrial cell culture
00:33:15.740 biomass because it's not meat meat is fleshed on animals used as food um and this is not healthy
00:33:22.760 for humans it's unethical and it's uh yeah it benefits nobody actually so tell me what's the
00:33:32.440 view what what's what's the view of the european union behind this obviously there is a push now
00:33:38.920 towards lab laboratory confected meat for variety of reasons but how is this
00:33:46.560 legal in the european union and how would how is this legal in the united states
00:33:51.420 yeah well they lobbied a lot for this um because they are seeing that um vegan food um where they
00:34:00.100 can first of all make a lot of money but second of all can feed their population very cheaply
00:34:05.380 they want to control this and they are seeing now that people don't eat it the majority of
00:34:12.740 the population still wants meat so they now try a different route by making yeah different kind of
00:34:19.120 in their words meat and this is actually they just try to control the food supplies and do this on
00:34:27.700 mass scale and I think it's wrong what they're doing I think it's against nature and it shouldn't
00:34:34.240 be done you say that it's against nature have you had any support from the various christian
00:34:43.800 communities in the netherlands on this has the catholic church been speaking out on this for
00:34:50.460 example no at the moment not because we're seeing now that they take this very seriously on the
00:34:58.300 media they just try to explain everybody that this is just in the beginning it's still not
00:35:04.180 up and running it's just a pilot it's just a project but they are actually doing it and it's
00:35:10.160 wrong and they shouldn't be doing it but they're doing it and for example it's not only morally
00:35:17.180 and ethically very wrong but it's also very ineffective because to produce the meat from
00:35:23.880 one cow for example one cow can produce 250 kilograms of edible meat to produce this lab
00:35:31.540 grown meat how they call it the industrial cell-based biomass they need 40 to 70 or 50 to
00:35:39.040 75 liters of fetal bovine serum but one fetus can only give 500 milliliters so if you calculate
00:35:46.360 this true they need 100 to 150 fetuses to only make the same uh yield as one beef production
00:35:54.020 animal so it's it's it's very wrong in my opinion has there been any concerns regarding the health
00:36:04.240 aspects of this tell me something about that yeah first of all um uh it's the health issue is uh
00:36:13.200 is a little bit wider because, um, people always think if you do something perfect,
00:36:17.600 it's the best you can do. But in this, uh, case, it's very wrong because if you make something so
00:36:23.620 sterile, sterile as they're doing now in the laboratory, um, it's not human food anymore.
00:36:29.260 It's not alive. It's, it's a dead product. It's, um, they make it from, uh, they infect the cells,
00:36:36.040 the stem cells that they take from the embryo and they grow these stem cells and infect them
00:36:44.340 with cancer because cancer cells grow faster than normal cells. They duplicate rapidly with no
00:36:50.720 ending. So this is a health issue, of course, because we don't know what's affecting long term.
00:36:57.260 But a second problem is that nobody takes into consideration is that humans are not capable of
00:37:03.880 eating sterile food we need microbes we need bacteria we need those things to have healthy
00:37:10.460 gut to have healthy bodies i need to make sure that i've got that correct right
00:37:19.800 you said that they're extracting stems stem cells from these calf embryos
00:37:28.980 and infecting them with cancer cells
00:37:37.340 to make these stem cells grow faster.
00:37:43.700 I must have misheard you on that.
00:37:47.760 That can't be literally what they're doing.
00:37:51.260 Yes, it's true.
00:37:53.400 I couldn't believe it at first,
00:37:55.840 So I searched some reviews and some peer reports so I could check up on this.
00:38:02.820 But they're actually doing it and they're doing something way worse, if you can call it worse, because this is the worst thing you can do, in my opinion.
00:38:10.000 But they are also altering the DNA of those cancer cells because after cancer cells doubles into two cells, the mother cell dies in normal cancer situation.
00:38:21.760 But they block this one out because they want the meat to grow as fast as possible, so they are blocking out the DNA of the cell so that it won't die and the cell stays alive.
00:38:35.840 So this is also they're altering cancer cells, putting them into stem cells of bovine embryos, and this is very wrong, very sickening if you hear it.
00:38:49.060 And they are selling this as it's just the beginning and we need to find some different routes. If you tell this to those people that are working on those projects, they are saying, okay, but we are trying to go off the fetal bovine serum and we are going into different kinds of production.
00:39:11.880 we are trying this so we can scale it up because with the numbers I told before it's not possible
00:39:17.560 to scale this up but if they want to scale this up they will use a milk protein because this
00:39:26.100 is needed for the cells to grow they need to feed the cells and this milk protein is very
00:39:32.800 stupidly actually because if you want milk protein you need milk and with milk production
00:39:38.320 comes a pregnant cow and a pregnant cow gets a female calf but also a male calf and in 0.99
00:39:44.640 common agricultural practice this male calf is very suitable for meat production. So if you
00:39:50.720 use laboratory meat production or this culture biomass and you need the proteins of milk for that
00:39:59.780 to grow them you also have the by-product of a male calf for from every milk giving cow so
00:40:08.220 it's the circle was already perfect and round as it is intended intended but they are trying to
00:40:15.840 break this with their they think they are better than than than than nature better than god i don't
00:40:22.720 know what they're thinking but it's it's it's horrific we it sounds slightly um diabolic uh
00:40:30.740 i have to tell you the truth let me just ask i need i need a further clarification here
00:40:36.280 when you're talking about the altering the dna is that of the basic elemental
00:40:42.780 um um calf embryos or is it the altering the dna dna of the the cancer cells that makes the whole
00:40:52.960 thing grow exponentially faster which is the dna here that they're altering the cancerous cells
00:40:59.860 the tumor cells or the or the calf serum no they're answer they're altering the the cancer
00:41:06.720 cells because the cancer cells have their natural yeah they are dying normally after
00:41:14.280 multiplying and they're blocking this because they want quicker growth and they tried a lot
00:41:23.120 of different things to grow meat as fast as possible but you can see on the numbers that
00:41:29.200 it's still way worse than any kind of meat production in the world we can discuss about
00:41:35.800 animal welfare and whatever but um we also must take in consideration that it's not only uh the
00:41:42.700 ethical part or or it's also the the the part that only two-thirds of agricultural uh land in the
00:41:51.800 world is not arable land you can't grow crops that humans can eat you must grow grass there and for
00:41:58.040 grass to be um changed into a product that humans can uh digest or use um you must use ruminants
00:42:06.720 uh this is the trick that we are doing for decades and this is what humanity brought to the
00:42:11.920 the moment where we are now that we are strong and healthy and we use uh ruminants and bovine
00:42:18.560 uh yeah cattle to to to do this and we need this actually without that we wouldn't be
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00:47:49.640 All right, back now to Joss Ubels, the vice president of Farmers Defence Force in the Netherlands, Joss.
00:48:00.900 We've got just a couple of moments left now.
00:48:04.380 Does this horror story, now you look to me to be too young.
00:48:08.160 I remember in the late 80s, early 90s in the UK, we had this thing called mad cow disease. 0.78
00:48:16.200 And it was a particularly British phenomenon.
00:48:18.880 And in fact, our British beef was then banned, unexported right across the world for many years.
00:48:24.940 And what British farmers had been doing is at some point in the agricultural process,
00:48:34.140 they'd been grinding up old cows and feeding them, brain included, into the meal that went to young cows.
00:48:42.900 And it was like sort of this cycle was going on and on and on.
00:48:45.380 And it created this thing in the brain called this neurodegenerative disease called Kreutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
00:48:54.580 I would have thought, you know, in the lessons we're learned, not only in the UK, but right across the world, I would have thought that our governments would have learned the lesson there when it comes to preparing food for human consumption.
00:49:15.380 Let's just do a quick recap. What you were saying just now in the first part of this interview is that for the laboratory prepared meat, they are extracting stem cells from calf spines, mixing them, infecting them.
00:49:37.420 I don't know what the correct word would be, with tumour cells, with cancerous tumour cells in order to make the whole culture multiply more quickly.
00:49:51.260 After those cancer cells have then had their DNA itself altered, and this is being put out in food preparation in the Netherlands, and I gather as well also in the United States.
00:50:02.860 It's just a couple of minutes. That's a horrific, grotesque, nightmare story.
00:50:09.660 And I hear you saying it. I find it difficult to believe.
00:50:14.740 Just tell me a little bit, if you wouldn't mind, about the farmers' defense force in the final 60 seconds.
00:50:21.640 What are you guys doing, especially perhaps reaching over the Atlantic to your colleagues in the United States to try and put a global block on this grotesque new procedure?
00:50:36.220 Yeah, I can, of course. Our name already says it. We're a farmer's defense force.
00:50:41.080 We're trying to defend our farmers in the Netherlands and not only in the Netherlands, inside all of Europe.
00:50:47.680 And I also want to give a shout out to the farmers across the sea in the USA,
00:50:53.100 because together we have to stay strong.
00:50:56.220 We have to protect our rights to farm.
00:50:58.340 They're trying whole different things, like this horrific story I told you,
00:51:02.680 to go without farmers because they want, for example, in the Netherlands,
00:51:07.640 they just want our soil.
00:51:09.320 They want our hectares.
00:51:10.480 They want our space because the Netherlands is a very tiny country.
00:51:13.340 they want control over food because they want power
00:51:17.100 and there's the only thing that you can do
00:51:19.940 you can stock up as much as you want
00:51:21.860 but at the end of the story you need to buy new food
00:51:25.400 so the strongest thing is protect yourself and protect your farmers
00:51:29.200 so you can buy local good food
00:51:30.840 that is a rallying cry that will have a huge amount of support here
00:51:36.680 for the war room posse
00:51:39.140 okay jos ubel's vice president of the farmers defense force in the netherlands quickly 30
00:51:45.380 seconds left where do people go on social media to find out more about you your campaigns
00:51:50.340 perhaps give you some support yeah first of all you can of course go to our website
00:51:56.340 you can donate there to make us grow stronger inside of europe but also outside of europe
00:52:05.720 We are always reaching out for fellow protectors of farming.
00:52:10.540 At the same time, you can go to our Facebook and other socials.
00:52:14.320 We are everywhere.
00:52:15.640 We're trying to do it as wide as we can, as strong as we can.
00:52:22.040 Yes, that's it.
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