Bannon's War Room - September 30, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1096: Attack On White Men; AFD Live IN The WarRoom

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:17.700 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:23.020 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:27.280 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:28.780 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:30.360 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:32.380 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:33.320 It's going to happen.
00:00:34.600 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:37.980 MAGA Media.
00:00:39.320 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:44.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:48.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:54.820 War Room.
00:00:55.720 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:58.780 tuesday 29 september year of lor 2026 you're back in the war room we're going to continue this
00:01:07.080 conversation tomorrow i want to do a little research tonight about why this ad has not been
00:01:11.920 pulled down and it's not acceptable particularly we're talking about coalition partners the young
00:01:16.380 men in this country and particularly young white men were a major part of
00:01:20.180 look we had the house the senate the presidency the supreme court and president trump was culturally
00:01:26.720 relevant like he's never been before right in the first six or nine months of the administration we
00:01:32.740 had every day four or five executive orders things it was an urgency and agency in this because the
00:01:39.000 years in the wilderness was shocking all we had done all the executive orders etc and then and
00:01:45.860 those guys love that and they love the strength and now when i go talk and these are the guys
00:01:49.820 that would cheer when he came into the ufc arenas i've been there many times when he came in now i
00:01:54.960 go to those guys and and they they come to me up pennsylvania right and they'll say why do you fire
00:02:00.320 greg bovino why did why did greg go commander why did commander bovino get let go why did they pull
00:02:07.140 back in minneapolis why did they why did they order to stand down because it looked like they
00:02:11.700 were going hard and they were doing finally doing what we wanted to be done and then they pulled
00:02:15.500 down and now we got all this reporting coming out that you know the ice is oh they're not going
00:02:19.760 after the you know all legals now it's only going to be certain ones and there's different
00:02:23.980 your stuff gets pulled back mass deportation and suddenly and it's it's part of this idea about the
00:02:29.020 accountability like you're saying earlier with the jack smith is okay we finally have a hearing
00:02:33.100 but but what's actually to come of it is is he getting arrested is well the jack smith thing
00:02:38.780 look it concerned me today because it was very dramatic but where's it going and i see kurt
00:02:45.180 olson andrew bailey punches out yeah did genova and did genova and i heard five other guys down in
00:02:51.580 in South Florida. Andrew Bailey's
00:02:54.580 a serious guy. These are all serious guys.
00:02:56.340 And if they've changed
00:02:58.700 their direction on that, maybe they
00:03:00.480 let us know. My
00:03:02.400 understanding is that there's a ton of
00:03:04.480 evidence for this
00:03:06.320 vast conspiracy,
00:03:08.240 but we've got to press it. You've got to get on with it.
00:03:10.440 So we've got to know, and this is what motivates people.
00:03:12.500 I know you've got limited time because you've got to get back
00:03:14.500 to your voice.
00:03:16.980 Make America healthy again.
00:03:19.040 Give us your assessment
00:03:20.000 from the heart because you're one of the very first people that we knew that you know the the
00:03:26.680 the mom sat there and started seeing what was on during covid right what the schools were playing
00:03:31.660 and the schools were doing then you had this parents rights movement then you had make america
00:03:35.240 healthy again without make america healthy again we would not have the sweeping victory let me tell
00:03:40.220 you the story let me tell you story this is how i knew because i i went to charlie and this is how
00:03:43.720 the conversation so i'm sitting at home in the middle of covid and i i sit down and i see i see
00:03:50.920 her in the kitchen you know where where women should be and and she's listening to a podcast 0.96
00:03:57.320 i said what you listen to a podcast for because she's you know other than like me and of course
00:04:01.080 war room you know she's not really a big favorite shows and and i said and thought crime and loves
00:04:07.480 the thought crime religiously and and i said i said she's listening to joe rogan i said joe rogan
00:04:12.440 You know, it's not in the repertoire.
00:04:15.700 And I said, well, who are you listening to?
00:04:17.660 And which episode was it?
00:04:19.180 It was the episode about vaccines and Bobby Kennedy.
00:04:24.180 With Bobby Kennedy.
00:04:25.220 And I said, okay, so what made you want to listen to that?
00:04:28.320 Because I know that's not really in your rotation.
00:04:29.960 You said all the moms in her mom group were talking about it.
00:04:34.800 And I said, wait a minute.
00:04:35.700 If this has gotten down to, like, the moms at that level,
00:04:39.260 that's why I went to Charlie.
00:04:40.100 I said, Charlie, I think this thing is real.
00:04:41.980 I think this thing for once Tony Lyons isn't fudging the numbers over there on the book sales
00:04:46.780 And not that he would ever do that
00:04:49.860 Unhuman socialist revolution second edition now available amazon.com on humans book.com special edition number 13 in the New York Times bestseller
00:04:57.040 Let's go and that should have been number one because I outsold Gretchen Whitmer
00:05:00.340 But they didn't give it to me because they kept me off the list that week, but I digress no because Brad Todd said you were 0.91
00:05:07.260 You're illegitimate, even though I outsold Gretchen Whitmer when her book came out. 0.63
00:05:11.060 You're an illegitimate, what, influencer or clickbait artist? 0.91
00:05:14.280 Clickbait artist, yeah.
00:05:15.200 So we'll see how that goes, Brad Tal.
00:05:17.040 Let's see how your candidates do on November 3rd, buddy, with no Gen Z votes.
00:05:21.780 So Tanya Tate pops up there, and I said, this thing is real.
00:05:25.800 Because it was, Steve, it was penetrating into areas that the normal, you know, conservatism and populism.
00:05:33.100 Beyond that, beyond that.
00:05:34.260 And politics.
00:05:34.960 And I realized this is a potential audience that's broader than MAGA.
00:05:40.460 It's beyond MAGA.
00:05:41.720 And I realized this is the train we got to get on.
00:05:45.180 And obviously, Charlie, you took that right up.
00:05:47.000 Jumped right on it.
00:05:47.980 And I think mostly it's because it's nonpolitical.
00:05:51.140 It's not a left or right issue.
00:05:53.600 We're talking about moms who are genuinely concerned about the quality of the foods
00:05:59.260 The family is consuming about all the vaccines, about all the pesticides in our products, about all the processed foods.
00:06:07.980 Tell us about the lunchboxes.
00:06:10.220 Oh, my stainless steel?
00:06:11.840 Tell them.
00:06:12.540 Well, very recently I became aware of all the microplastics.
00:06:18.040 The more I started looking into it, the wilder my realization became of how many microplastics
00:06:26.600 and how much they are embedded in everyday life.
00:06:29.000 It's all the way down the rabbit hole.
00:06:30.140 All microplastics.
00:06:31.580 All the way down.
00:06:32.320 So I gradually started cleaning my kitchen
00:06:35.340 from removing all the plastic cutting boards,
00:06:38.680 now it's solid wood,
00:06:40.000 to now I'm at the point where the lunchboxes,
00:06:45.300 the ones that I use to pack my kids' lunch,
00:06:48.040 they are stainless steel. 1.00
00:06:49.820 And I know many moms, 0.98
00:06:51.100 they're still using the plastic lunchboxes.
00:06:54.940 Please, please buy something of a better quality.
00:06:59.060 So the food that you put in, especially if you pack a warm lunch.
00:07:04.420 I know many of them are using like a thermal cookware. 0.92
00:07:09.100 But there could be some moms still putting like a little warm protein into a plastic lunchbox. 1.00
00:07:16.220 And that's microplastics getting in the food and then your children eating it.
00:07:20.560 By the way, Steve, as a couple of Slavic parents, we'll also remind you that if you are worried about bullies, the stainless steel lunchbox is a secondary purpose there.
00:07:33.520 The only head it wouldn't hurt is your brother, Kevin.
00:07:35.680 No, impossible. It's impervious.
00:07:37.400 Impervious. The head's impervious.
00:07:39.340 From the time you saw Bobby Kennedy on Joe Rogan to today as the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
00:07:46.380 What is your perception and how do you think we've platformed him enough in the Trump administration?
00:07:52.180 Have we given him enough, you know, runway to actually bring in everything that he could potentially bring in?
00:08:00.460 Because the Maha part of our coalition is absolutely essential for us retaining and driving forward on political power.
00:08:08.920 I cannot agree more that Maha platform and specifically Maha moms are driving force.
00:08:14.480 unfortunately with the decades of bad policies both from the right and the left side the
00:08:23.380 republicans and democrats they make it really hard to implement very meaningful changes fast
00:08:29.640 enough so i think has there been substantial progress definitely and and i love seeing all
00:08:37.400 the changes being introduced about all the dyes getting removed about some pressure putin getting
00:08:44.440 put on the major corporations but at the same time there's so much more that needs to be done
00:08:50.220 and i don't know if two years is enough there's there's definitely a lot of more work that four 1.00
00:08:55.920 years but but luckily we we putting some pressure on and i don't think maha moms are going anywhere
00:09:02.880 to be honest so the whole purpose today was to kind of give and by the way i want to say there's 0.99
00:09:07.780 a worry here because if if there's a lack of engagement because i don't say the engagement
00:09:12.680 isn't with Bobby
00:09:14.580 or even with the president, to be honest. He had him up there
00:09:16.940 with the vaccines. The issue is with the
00:09:18.920 House GOP. Where's the Maha caucus?
00:09:21.460 Where's the House GOP? Where's the
00:09:22.900 Senate GOP on this? Where's the engagement
00:09:24.780 from... You know there's only one candidate there
00:09:26.880 today? No, that's what I wanted to talk to you about.
00:09:29.040 But have you seen AOC
00:09:30.760 actually getting...
00:09:33.100 Stole my thunder!
00:09:34.260 So AOC is now
00:09:36.900 making a play for Maha.
00:09:38.680 And she's reaching out to Maha.
00:09:40.000 So is Abdul in Michigan.
00:09:41.720 Yeah, he's making a very, I think they are reading the crowd.
00:09:47.280 And now there wasn't a lot of politics there, but there are a lot of companies and corporate interests and people talking about good things that are happening.
00:09:56.340 Does it also are the moms kind of taken back by, hey, this started as a mom's thing with, you know, food is medicine.
00:10:04.660 We want to get a strict accounting on vaccines.
00:10:08.400 there's a whole punch list you want to accomplish that when you look at the agenda there was a lot
00:10:14.420 of ai there's a lot of digital as you know namely wolf and everybody came on here we don't want any
00:10:19.540 digital health cards we don't want the digital side is is your concern or is there a concern
00:10:26.460 i should say that it's shifting more to that and going to be more corporate there's a huge concern
00:10:33.140 about that and looking how much the corporations are trying to get involved with Maha for the sole 0.86
00:10:41.880 purpose of they see the power in it and they see they realize that with if you get the Maha Moms
00:10:49.340 vote and approval you could it will cost you a lot of money so they're definitely making a play
00:10:57.000 on the Maha Moms, but Maha Moms are not that easily being pushed around, and they're very 0.95
00:11:04.820 laser-focused, I'll tell you that. So they see through all the corporate agenda. 0.68
00:11:10.360 If I could add, I would have loved to see more of a balance between, look, I understand
00:11:15.380 engaging in the corporate sector. You're going to have to do that. If you want to have change,
00:11:20.000 you're going to have to engage. I had some reporters come up, they said, well, what's
00:11:22.900 walmart doing here and i said well they're one of the biggest retailers they're a huge pharmacy
00:11:27.120 too now by the way huge so if you want the and a grocery store and pharmacy so if you want to
00:11:32.860 engage you have to talk to those people that being said i saw a lot of maha moms off the stage
00:11:39.340 i didn't see a lot of maha moms on it this is my point and particularly from the grassroots
00:11:44.060 because it is a grassroots movement we've got to make sure that they're engaged particularly in
00:11:48.880 the next five weeks and make sure they're engaged they had tony they had bobby russell brands there
00:11:54.200 they're all great mike tyson can hire mike great it's all great where's the grassroots yeah where's
00:12:01.120 the grass because the grassroots they should have had at least one panel with with maha moms
00:12:05.480 discussing what's what's concerning them and what's what's getting done and what needs to be
00:12:10.540 done it was the moms to to give credit to you it was the moms who brought maha to the political
00:12:17.760 power base that it has and if you forget about the moms it's it's gone by the way i just want
00:12:25.540 you to know that there are an awful lot of people that didn't see that ad that just saw it my phone
00:12:29.660 is blown up they're not happy with that ad see they're not no no no that's illegitimate
00:12:34.180 we're just we just want clickbait we put it up it's just clickbait it's illegitimate because
00:12:40.240 no that's the thing is if you play my comments like we were playing earlier you play the comments
00:12:45.140 And he said, like, what's Posobiec ranting about, the white man, he's going full white nationalist on us.
00:12:51.820 He said, well, hold on, no, no, no, play the ad, all right, play the ad, and then listen to what I say.
00:12:56.440 Before I let you go, Fulton J. Sheen.
00:12:59.260 Yes, sir.
00:13:00.000 We had Sheen here at the same time.
00:13:01.580 I thought it was an amazing juxtaposition that Fulton Sheen gave us such a lesson for standing up against.
00:13:07.580 I got the JMJ right there.
00:13:08.920 It's just incredible that it was so moving, the scale of it was so big,
00:13:13.180 but it was pretty intimate given the scale of it.
00:13:15.700 It was just, it was all old school.
00:13:17.860 Because they had a thousand priests there,
00:13:20.260 they were able to decentralize it
00:13:21.840 so that each priest took a,
00:13:23.140 when we did communion for the Holy Eucharist,
00:13:25.100 each priest took a separate section.
00:13:27.100 And so it was actually very quick.
00:13:28.040 It was like performing muster on an aircraft carrier, right?
00:13:30.680 It's, you know, in minutes,
00:13:32.220 you have the entire thing done.
00:13:33.600 And of course we had the Holy Relic
00:13:36.520 carried by James Fulton Engleton,
00:13:40.180 who was the young man who was born as an infant, 61 minutes, no heartbeat.
00:13:45.660 His parents prayed for the intercession of Fulton Sheen.
00:13:48.240 His heart started beating 61 minutes later.
00:13:50.180 And today, or Friday or Thursday, Holy Thursday, by the way,
00:13:54.000 on the day that Christ instituted the Last Supper for us,
00:13:58.680 that was the day that Fulton Sheen was beatified, raised up, by the way,
00:14:01.600 not as an anti-communist hero, but as an American hero,
00:14:04.560 an American icon, a role model to us all.
00:14:07.060 And Steve, so do me a favor.
00:14:08.220 This is the rosary.
00:14:09.840 Everybody, you know, Mark Levin loves this rosary very, very much.
00:14:13.340 What's his problem with your rosary?
00:14:14.880 I don't know.
00:14:15.180 He doesn't like it.
00:14:15.820 He said he didn't like it.
00:14:17.240 I put it up at the memorial.
00:14:19.120 He got really upset.
00:14:20.160 Do me a favor, Steve.
00:14:21.000 I don't know if it's ever done before.
00:14:22.440 Can you take this rosary, and can you touch this rosary to the mantle there behind me?
00:14:27.920 Oh, yeah.
00:14:28.320 Behind you.
00:14:29.100 This will make it official.
00:14:30.140 Can I just take the rosary?
00:14:32.200 No.
00:14:32.840 I need it back.
00:14:33.520 There you go.
00:14:33.980 So check this out.
00:14:35.080 That rosary in Catholic tradition.
00:14:38.560 you're passing on the good vibe of so so this rosary did that touch the relic touch the tomb
00:14:44.080 touch the tomb of fulton sheen that was you you went to tell that tell the difference so i went
00:14:48.880 to illinois so we went out to illinois went out to peoria central illinois touched it to the tomb
00:14:54.080 of fulton sheen which is a first class relic which now makes this a third class relic of fulton sheen
00:15:00.080 and if i have my theology correct that means that the war room mantelpiece i think it's become a
00:15:06.160 a fourth-class relic? Well, it depends on how you count it. A third or a fourth-class relic of Fulton Sheen, the entire war room mantle. This is old-school Catholic tradition. The idea being, and this is an ancient belief, it predates Christianity, that the veil between the physical world and the spiritual world is thin, it's leaky. It's this idea that the spirit can permeate through. It's obviously, as a Christian, it's what we believe, that there is a connection between the physical world and the spiritual world.
00:15:36.160 and that when something becomes sanctified,
00:15:39.100 that includes the physical form,
00:15:40.660 and it's the end of the Nicene Creed,
00:15:41.800 we believe in the resurrection of the body.
00:15:43.760 The timing of this couldn't have been better
00:15:46.780 for the simple reason is that we're in another war
00:15:48.900 against communist Marxism right now,
00:15:52.040 and that's why it is, ever since the French Revolution,
00:15:56.080 it has been sometimes above ground, sometimes underground.
00:16:01.500 That's the power of your book.
00:16:02.860 The power of your book, you lay it all out
00:16:05.320 Well, and the Pope himself, which, and Leo is a guy that I've certainly been critical when inappropriate,
00:16:11.520 but to have Pope Leo go and perform Mass at the Place de Concorde, which is the exact spot.
00:16:19.560 I hope people understand where he did, and one million people, right?
00:16:23.440 At the end of Champs-Élysées.
00:16:24.680 Right there.
00:16:25.240 Right past the Arc de Triomphe.
00:16:26.380 With Arc de Triomphe, right up there.
00:16:28.300 The exact spot where, and he pointed out, he declared this, where King Louis and Marie Antoinette were martyred during the French Revolution because of their Christian faith. 0.63
00:16:41.120 So the French Revolution was an anti-Christian revolution.
00:16:45.620 And you would know that if you had read on humans. 0.65
00:16:48.120 I'm sitting there watching as he's going through all this.
00:16:50.800 And then he goes to the sisters of the Carmelite Monastery and he prays for them as martyrs of the French Revolution.
00:16:57.940 And I said, did this, did somebody get the Pope a copy of Unhumans?
00:17:01.420 You know, that being said, I did meet his brother, you know, not long ago.
00:17:04.540 One of the greatest offers you'll ever hear is Polonk's Dialogues of the Carmelites,
00:17:09.560 which is about that group of nuns and the young nun that was there, that was a novice, novitiate,
00:17:16.020 all slaughtered in the French Revolution.
00:17:18.440 This story, which we tell in Unhumans, and if you get Socialist Revolution to be able to see this,
00:17:23.060 that they, because they were told, renounce your vows to the church,
00:17:27.940 and accept the new oath of loyalty to the state right right where have we heard that before by
00:17:33.140 the way right and not a single one of them steve no even the mother superior she said take me let
00:17:38.180 them go take me but they said no they said it has to be every single one not a single one of them
00:17:43.140 would renounce their vows they led them into paris they led them up to the guillotine and it is said
00:17:48.900 that they walked up singing the salve regina as they were led to the guillotine they were all
00:17:53.540 beheaded that's the end of the opera it's incredibly powerful um so we they don't want us
00:17:58.740 to that's that's what we do in this book steve is it's not just talking about how evil the other
00:18:02.980 side is and how blood thirsty and look we all saw the response to charlie's murder yes we said they
00:18:08.980 they got they had the blood lust the blood lust which which inflamed them they wanted more
00:18:17.140 but it also shows about the heroes and how that's what's so great but also how they think this was
00:18:21.140 That famous meeting when they first got off the plane of Nixon and Kissinger going to see Mao Zedong over at the pool house where he lived.
00:18:27.680 And Zhou Enlai.
00:18:28.160 And Zhou Enlai.
00:18:29.080 And then they had, you know, they got some quiet moments there.
00:18:31.940 Had to make some conversation.
00:18:33.140 And Kissinger asked, well, you know, what are your thoughts of Zhou Enlai, the intellectual?
00:18:37.540 I said, what are your thoughts about the French Revolution?
00:18:40.140 This is in 1972.
00:18:42.100 Zhou Enlai looks at him for a minute and goes, too early to tell.
00:18:45.480 Too soon to tell.
00:18:46.140 That's what, 200 years later.
00:18:47.380 That's how they think.
00:18:48.480 When they had just held their own for it.
00:18:49.880 because remember steve the cultural revolution there's a reason so the chinese we were talking 0.97
00:18:54.360 about this last uh last week of course when xi jinping was here just lying lying through his
00:18:59.320 teeth at in america's house and i haven't even begun to process how upsetting it was to see that
00:19:04.840 communist flag up in the people's house in the united states of america and he's he's talking
00:19:09.400 about how the the red army beat the japanese in world war ii and the reason they call it the um
00:19:16.120 so that's the people's liberation army
00:19:19.500 is because they teach
00:19:21.660 that it was their
00:19:23.520 army that liberated
00:19:25.800 the Chinese people from the Japanese 1.00
00:19:27.840 and from the
00:19:29.160 Qing dynasty. None of which is
00:19:31.760 true. It's completely
00:19:33.580 a bald-faced lie. They know they've got a problem with
00:19:35.520 legitimacy. Anyway, I know you guys got to go
00:19:37.680 the book and your
00:19:39.420 social media is the Associated
00:19:41.600 Press of the MAGA movement. Thank you very much.
00:19:43.780 Of course, it's at Jack Posobiec
00:19:45.940 on Twitter, on Getter, on Truth Social, on Instagram.
00:19:49.720 The book is Unhuman Socialist Revolution,
00:19:52.640 the second edition, 14 new chapters full of tactics
00:19:55.960 to help you defeat and survive a communist uprising.
00:20:00.720 And, sweetheart.
00:20:01.900 At Real Tanya Tay on Instagram and Twitter.
00:20:05.960 Tanya, we need to get your show.
00:20:07.180 Hardcore Maha.
00:20:08.400 Hardcore Maha.
00:20:10.380 Hardcore Maha, too.
00:20:11.300 We got to get our show here on Real America's Voice. 0.99
00:20:13.100 She won't even let me drink soda.
00:20:15.000 She's like, you're going to drink a soda?
00:20:16.980 I said, if you guys did a show in Mandarin, it'd be the biggest show.
00:20:19.460 You need to drink more water.
00:20:21.340 See, I keep talking about every time he's here.
00:20:23.500 I just drink a lot of water.
00:20:25.680 Why?
00:20:27.320 You can drink a lot of water.
00:20:30.160 You can talk.
00:20:31.440 You can talk.
00:20:32.320 It's really good.
00:20:34.740 Guys, thank you so much.
00:20:35.960 I appreciate you always.
00:20:37.000 God bless you.
00:20:37.680 Thank you, Steve.
00:20:38.880 Eric Metaxas.
00:20:40.860 Talk to me about compare the American Revolution to the French Revolution.
00:20:44.460 They happened at about the same time. Why did they not take on the same character, sir?
00:20:50.300 That is the question, Steve. And Jack teased this up because what I keep saying, and I can't wait to tell you about where I was this morning, but the French Revolution was a false revolution. Why? Because they say we want to get rid of the king and the queen. What are we going to replace the king and the queen with? Nothing. 0.71
00:21:12.000 They kill the king and the queen, and then they kill the priests and the nuns. 0.86
00:21:18.140 They wanted to push God out.
00:21:20.120 The American Revolution says we reject the king, we get rid of the king, but we will
00:21:26.100 bow to God as our king.
00:21:28.400 They knew that the God of the Bible had to be central in this idea of government and
00:21:34.980 liberty.
00:21:35.620 Our liberties come from God.
00:21:37.060 Our rights come from God.
00:21:38.060 It was a fundamental difference.
00:21:40.920 And I have to say, it's made all the difference. The French Revolution was a proto-Bolshevik 0.96
00:21:47.920 revolution. Our revolution was the only true revolution in the history of the world that 0.82
00:21:52.860 delivered on what it said it was going to do. It actually gave the power to the people. But
00:21:59.200 that's only because the people knew that their power and their liberty and their rights came
00:22:04.180 from God. I'm always horrified when people kind of mention the French Revolution in the same breath
00:22:10.160 as the American Revolution, they could not have been more different. They claim to want the same
00:22:14.840 thing, just as AOC and Mamdani claim to want to help the people. But whether they do that or don't,
00:22:21.880 that's the big difference. I can't hear you. You mentioned. There you go. Sorry. Am I up now?
00:22:32.760 Yeah. Thanks. I know we've got a couple of minutes to break and I'm going to hold you
00:22:38.760 through that um you mentioned something in one of the very early times you were here on the show
00:22:44.900 and it was about how the the religious and spiritual nature of our revolution some of it
00:22:51.760 was ground the fact that england had become really not spiritual or not religious and i think a lot
00:22:58.360 of people think well hang on you had all those religious wars and then you had the church of
00:23:01.840 england and every time they expanded the empire you had these anglican uh you know missionaries
00:23:08.320 And, you know, they spread the word of God. Just give us a couple of minutes.
00:23:12.520 What had happened to England that they were not a religious people?
00:23:16.420 I think you said this a couple of times at the time of our revolution.
00:23:20.180 Well, I mean, first of all, it's complicated. But I will say this.
00:23:25.520 The British elites of the time of our revolution are kind of like the cultural elites in Manhattan, in Hollywood, in D.C.
00:23:36.680 they're very secular. They don't take God seriously, and they look upon those who take
00:23:42.040 God very seriously, like the evangelist George Whitefield or like Billy Graham in our time or
00:23:48.700 anybody who takes God and the Bible seriously. They look on them as kind of rubes. The sophisticated
00:23:54.720 people, they were too sophisticated for that. Now, this is not always the case. King George III was
00:24:02.240 to some extent serious about faith. But generally speaking, the culture of the British elites
00:24:07.620 sneered at the concept of, you know, the God of the Bible and really sneered at the Bible-based
00:24:16.460 religion of the New Englanders. I mean, they just looked down on it. They mocked it, actually. And
00:24:23.420 when they came, when they occupied Boston, the troops mocked it. They really, they were at odds
00:24:30.420 with it. And I just find it strikingly similar to where we are now. Our elites are uniformly
00:24:36.300 secular. They do not understand the language of faith. They don't understand the language of,
00:24:42.500 I love my country. They think that's for suckers and rubes. They're too sophisticated for that. 0.99
00:24:47.660 They want to be globalists or they want to believe in nothing. That really struck me as I did the
00:24:52.760 research in my revolution book is that how true that was during the time of our revolution,
00:24:57.260 How deeply religious the people of the 13 colonies were, especially New England, profoundly
00:25:04.480 religious.
00:25:05.040 These are sons, descendants of the Puritans, Reformation-based, reading the Bible.
00:25:11.200 They were a Bible-saturated culture.
00:25:14.160 The British elites were not. 0.92
00:25:15.220 They were very secular, dissolute culture.
00:25:18.720 And I have to say that that tracks all through my book, the way the British conducted the
00:25:24.640 war.
00:25:24.960 They were sadistic. 0.97
00:25:25.740 They were like the Japanese or the Nazis in World War II. 0.75
00:25:29.340 They didn't treat their enemies kindly or with grace. 0.83
00:25:32.460 They treated their enemies like animals, worse than animals.
00:25:35.400 The Americans had a biblical view of how we treat our enemies, and Washington took that
00:25:40.240 extremely seriously, and John Adams took it extremely seriously. 0.53
00:25:43.880 They refused to stoop to the barbarity of the British.
00:25:47.000 They were determined to honor God, even in how they fought the war.
00:25:52.540 That's how much they trusted God.
00:25:55.740 um where do people go before we go to break where do people go get the book now because
00:26:00.940 you spent 12 weeks on the new york times bestseller list we want to make sure that
00:26:04.580 want to make sure that people uh get access to it absolutely amazon do not go to barnes and noble
00:26:11.120 if you could please boycott barnes and noble they have been horrible they don't carry the book they
00:26:15.560 hide it they still charge top price for it amazon.com is the cheapest price the best place
00:26:22.100 A book that sold this much, it should be on a table right in front
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00:26:30.140 Come on in, Beatrice, right here. 0.93
00:26:32.160 Beatrice Van Storch is going to join us from Alternative for Deutschland.
00:26:36.040 Eric Metaxas is with us, going to hold through the break.
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00:32:47.140 Metaxas, we're going to have you back on Thursday because something happened very important with you in Staten Island.
00:32:51.500 We're going to talk about it on Thursday morning.
00:32:53.700 Until then, where do people go?
00:32:55.960 I've got people, and I'm trying to pass them off to you that want to do more signings with you,
00:33:01.600 more where you come and talk.
00:33:03.220 Where do people go?
00:33:05.060 Well, first of all, I am right now in Grand Rapids, Cornerstone University,
00:33:10.420 which is one of the tiny handful of good, great universities, solid Christian universities in America.
00:33:17.300 I'm speaking at their chapel tomorrow morning.
00:33:19.420 I'm signing books after the chapel.
00:33:22.220 I'm doing stuff with the students.
00:33:24.660 I'm doing an event Thursday night here, a big event.
00:33:28.860 People can come if you,
00:33:31.360 there'll probably be a book signing after that event.
00:33:33.400 Next week, I'll be in Lynchburg at Liberty University.
00:33:37.520 I've just got a pretty full schedule,
00:33:39.240 but people need to go to ericmetaxas.com.
00:33:42.360 You can see the events there.
00:33:45.220 Definitely, I would say, get the book from Amazon.
00:33:47.920 That's the best price.
00:33:49.420 But I have to tell you, it has been amazing.
00:33:51.800 Wherever I go, people come up to me and say, we've seen you on War Room.
00:33:57.040 So it's really, it's very gratifying.
00:33:59.920 I'm grateful that your listeners come out because I've been all over this country.
00:34:04.180 Our audience loves your book on the revolution and want to continue to make sure it's a bestseller.
00:34:11.940 Just for details, if they want to go to the, is it possible that people that are watching the show tonight
00:34:17.420 could actually go to the chapel and go to the book signing?
00:34:20.700 Is there, where do they go right now in Grand Rapids
00:34:24.720 to find out where you're going to be?
00:34:25.980 Because I'm sure that we got some great Michiganders
00:34:29.020 that want to see them.
00:34:30.540 Yeah, well, it's Cornerstone University
00:34:33.660 right here in Grand Rapids, wherever the chapel is.
00:34:36.940 There's a big chapel.
00:34:38.880 I've spoken there before.
00:34:40.340 I'll be there tomorrow morning.
00:34:41.240 I guess it's 9.30.
00:34:42.180 After that, I will be signing books.
00:34:46.060 So that's tomorrow.
00:34:47.420 Thursday, they have this wonderful thing.
00:34:49.400 It's called the Wisdom Conversation.
00:34:51.360 Guess what it's about?
00:34:52.500 It's against communism.
00:34:54.100 It's talking about the evils of communism.
00:34:57.740 A lot of great speakers will be there.
00:35:00.420 I will be there.
00:35:01.240 I hope I'll be signing books after that.
00:35:03.200 Certainly be there to meet people.
00:35:05.540 That's Cornerstone University.
00:35:07.480 That is this Thursday night.
00:35:10.060 So really excited to be here.
00:35:11.420 And in Liberty, Lynchburg, Liberty University next week.
00:35:16.320 Perfect.
00:35:17.420 Eric, one more time, social media, where they go for your social media and to get all your content, including the book.
00:35:23.320 If you can spell my name, ericmetaxas.com.
00:35:27.440 Eric Metaxas is my X account.
00:35:29.800 Eric Metaxas is my Instagram.
00:35:31.400 I posted on Instagram about Staten Island.
00:35:34.020 And I'll tell you the whole crazy story Thursday morning on this program.
00:35:39.740 On the forum.
00:35:40.500 See you then, brother.
00:35:41.180 Thank you.
00:35:42.220 Let's get some folks out tomorrow to Grand Rapids.
00:35:44.620 to the cornerstone university to the chapel see eric metaxas in the flesh
00:35:49.760 we're so fortunate one of my favorite people has dropped by the war room beatrice how you doing
00:35:55.520 you you and your husband just two of the best ever alternative for deutschland has been in the
00:36:01.900 news everywhere just give us get the audience up to date of what's happened over the last
00:36:06.140 month or two that has made you the front page of the guardian and bbc they're not happy what have
00:36:14.140 you guys accomplished
00:36:17.120 we're pulling number one
00:36:19.300 in all of germany we're leading by a ten points in all of jimmy we're
00:36:23.180 leading by fifteen or twenty points in the eastern parts of germany
00:36:26.480 but we're not only pulling number one
00:36:28.720 uh... but we know i had the huge uh... major in and elections where we want
00:36:34.140 into regions in germany
00:36:36.200 and in one region uh... we came in
00:36:39.340 almost with an absolute majority of the seats and we will
00:36:43.300 likely have our first governor in office who is running one region, Saxony-Anhalt.
00:36:52.980 And the other region is even more interesting.
00:36:55.980 We came in first as well, and the chancellor's party didn't meet the 5% threshold,
00:37:02.720 so it dropped out of the parliament.
00:37:04.400 Merch's party in that region did not reach the 5%?
00:37:07.600 Yes, that really didn't come to a surprise.
00:37:12.720 I mean, there were about 6% or something in the polls,
00:37:15.740 but then they dropped below 5%,
00:37:17.880 and that's the first time the Chancellor's party has to leave the Parliament.
00:37:22.140 So, of course, this gives a huge pressure now on the coalition,
00:37:27.040 which is running our country on a federal level,
00:37:31.040 and they start realizing that they have got two problems.
00:37:34.000 They do not have any plan how to solve our problems,
00:37:39.220 and we've got severe problems, first of all, and...
00:37:43.580 Let's talk about the problems. 0.53
00:37:45.800 Why is AFD looked at a solution and not the Christian Democrats?
00:37:49.680 So first of all, what are the major problems facing Germany?
00:37:52.840 The major problems are economy and migration.
00:37:57.280 When it comes to economy, it's about energy prices.
00:38:01.080 And when it comes to migration, it's about security.
00:38:03.640 But the elites, why are the German people bellyaching?
00:38:06.580 because the elites have de-industrialized.
00:38:10.460 You've taken one of the great industrial powers
00:38:12.360 right in back of the United States,
00:38:14.400 the great industrial power of Germany.
00:38:16.760 The elites in your country have gutted that
00:38:18.780 over the last 20 years in broad daylight.
00:38:21.360 And they walked through a plan of green energy
00:38:24.900 because I don't know that they were ashamed of your growth
00:38:27.300 or ashamed of your craftsmanship,
00:38:29.840 but you shipped out the middle companies,
00:38:32.200 those great middle companies to China
00:38:33.780 or to other places around the world.
00:38:36.340 the elites themselves destroyed your economy. Yeah, I think the catastrophe we're facing at
00:38:42.500 the very moment and the weakness of our economy is the result of political decisions they have
00:38:48.860 made in the past. And now people know it. And they know that they do not have any idea,
00:38:56.280 no plan at all how to solve the problem. Basically, their answer is more of the same.
00:39:01.620 So let's, you know, do more green energy. Let's physically blow up our nuclear power plants. That's what we're doing. While we've got the highest energy prices ever, we've got when it comes to electricity, something like 145 percent plus like what an American household would have to pay. Same for industry. Gas prices are, you know, it's just double or three times what you have here facing here.
00:39:29.220 Why did they make the decision to de-industrialize one of the great industrial powers in the world?
00:39:37.280 They did not decide to de-industrialize our country.
00:39:40.440 They decided to stop our energy supply, basically destroy it,
00:39:44.420 and then wondering why energy prices went up and we're losing our competitiveness
00:39:48.660 and we're losing our jobs and companies.
00:39:51.760 And this is now increasing, this problem.
00:39:56.220 and we are losing 15,000 jobs per month.
00:39:59.680 You're losing 15,000 industrial jobs for workers per month?
00:40:03.700 Yeah.
00:40:04.320 So that means 50,000 people's families who are no longer paying into and paying taxes
00:40:10.320 but rely on the social welfare system, which is overdone.
00:40:13.840 And then it comes to the budget, and now we can see that I put it that way
00:40:20.140 and say we're bankrupt almost.
00:40:23.080 I mean, you cannot run, Germany at least, cannot be run on debt only.
00:40:28.220 And this is what will happen as of from next year.
00:40:31.080 The government is planning as of from 2027 that one third of our spending will be paid by debt.
00:40:38.500 We have, you know, we're spending three euros.
00:40:40.840 You'll have a gap between your budget and your revenues.
00:40:44.300 That gap, they will borrow that money to pay the budget.
00:40:47.380 We're spending, we have two euros and we spend three.
00:40:51.080 And this one extra euro is coming from debt.
00:40:54.780 So our burden on interest rates we have to pay is just, you know, it's doubling and tripling. 0.94
00:41:02.200 If you're losing these amount of industrial jobs a month, why are you taking any migrants into the country?
00:41:08.100 And why did they take so many migrants earlier?
00:41:13.020 This is a question, I mean, you can speculate on that.
00:41:16.820 But doesn't anybody, don't you guys ask them in the...
00:41:20.000 Of course.
00:41:20.540 The German parliament?
00:41:21.900 And what's their response?
00:41:24.180 Whatever reason they would present, we would say, thank you, no.
00:41:28.600 Whatever reason, there is no, by no means we want to take in these people.
00:41:34.140 What is now getting even worse is we're not taking in them and we're still taking them.
00:41:39.820 We're sending one back home, deportation, and at the same time we're taking five more in. 0.98
00:41:45.800 But the worst thing of all is that we're handing citizenship to them at the very moment. 0.92
00:41:50.300 So we're handing them over passports, almost 1,000 per day for Syrians and Afghans 0.99
00:41:57.280 and people who are unlikely to fit into our society,
00:42:02.080 but very likely to have in the next generation somewhat in between four and five kids.
00:42:08.200 So, you know, we had 300,000, more than 300,000 people who became German citizens, came to
00:42:20.020 Germany as asylum seekers, because they're fleeing from war, civil war in their countries.
00:42:26.320 And now, after five years, they are German citizens, and their kids will also be German
00:42:32.080 citizens. 0.91
00:42:33.160 And that will have an impact on our society.
00:42:36.320 And even though we took in so many people, millions, you know, and we're losing jobs, 1.00
00:42:43.360 they're still coming with the same story, that we need labor force from Syria, from 0.93
00:42:48.800 Afghanistan, from Nigeria, from Eritrea, from all those countries which are very, at least 0.99
00:42:56.580 a far lower job experience and education, and, of course, they don't fit into our society 1.00
00:43:04.240 the way we need it. 0.71
00:43:05.600 There's no cultural assimilation.
00:43:07.660 No, by no means.
00:43:09.660 I mean, I think we could use hundreds of thousands of Japanese, Taiwanese, East Asian workers. 1.00
00:43:16.480 Yes, they don't cause problems, but the ones we've taken in, that's for sure. 1.00
00:43:22.560 We know they face problems.
00:43:22.960 Why do the elites continue to push this, particularly in the fact that you're polling at 30 percent?
00:43:29.060 You're the leading political party.
00:43:31.360 Yeah, at least that should help them to understand that they're fueling us.
00:43:36.500 So even if they should stop this policy because they're fueling us, at least that should be their aim. 1.00
00:43:43.320 But then, I don't know, maybe they want to destroy us or maybe they're just too stupid 1.00
00:43:48.380 or maybe they believing in the end their own lies and propaganda 1.00
00:43:52.360 and that we all need these people and that we have to, you know, all get together
00:43:56.860 and then in the end have something which looks like likewise in all of the world.
00:44:01.760 Has there been a change of attitude of the German elite in the media
00:44:05.020 since you've won these victories here the last couple of months
00:44:08.040 that they now accepted that you're a legitimate political party
00:44:11.040 and that you actually could possibly win the next federal election
00:44:15.140 and be actually the government of Germany?
00:44:17.800 Have they accepted that yet?
00:44:19.180 Not really.
00:44:20.520 I mean, you know, the word firewall is what is very common in Germany.
00:44:24.540 So this is what they built between us and them, a firewall, which means no one can talk to us.
00:44:31.200 No one can go into coalition with us.
00:44:34.040 We cannot tolerate a minority government run by them. 1.00
00:44:40.700 They don't want to do anything. 0.99
00:44:41.780 If we present, and this is what we did, we present what is in the program of the Christian
00:44:48.420 Democratic Party, we present it as a bill on the floor in the parliament, they will
00:44:53.220 vote against it.
00:44:54.240 If you presented it, just because Alternative Deutschland did it.
00:44:57.120 Because it would have a majority if they would agree, and we agree, but they vote against
00:45:01.360 it.
00:45:01.660 They vote against their own program.
00:45:03.040 So they won't get anything done.
00:45:05.580 The problem will increase.
00:45:07.420 The majority of our government is only 12 seats.
00:45:10.720 So it's very unlikely that this government will stay for till twenty twenty nine.
00:45:16.620 We will have election and then maybe we run the country by absolute majority or they will be forced to to talk with us either way.
00:45:27.620 I keep saying you guys were the pupils. We were the teachers, but that's flipped.
00:45:32.020 You're now the teachers. Tell I want this particularly as we run up to this election.
00:45:35.420 It's going to be predicated upon our grassroots effort, our grassroots getting out again.
00:45:39.280 You guys are suppressed by the police, by the media, by the financial community, everything.
00:45:44.700 Walk through, how do you, actually, how have you, how have you guys won and won so big in some of these regions with no money, no support, nothing?
00:45:57.620 I think first of all, you need a strong belief in what you do.
00:46:05.080 That's what we have.
00:46:05.960 We've got a strong program.
00:46:07.360 We've got a strong vision for our country.
00:46:09.280 we know what we want
00:46:10.800 and at the same time you have to love
00:46:13.780 what you do and you have to love your country
00:46:15.820 and we're really focused
00:46:17.740 and we're really
00:46:18.480 we want to save our country
00:46:21.300 we want to save democracy
00:46:23.740 we want to save freedom of speech
00:46:25.480 this is really something we believe in
00:46:28.220 and at the
00:46:30.180 same time of course you have to
00:46:31.840 don't care about the talks of the others
00:46:34.280 don't
00:46:35.400 let them push you around
00:46:38.100 I mean
00:46:38.500 and currently I'm traveling here with German members of the parliament.
00:46:43.960 I don't care.
00:46:46.040 I don't care.
00:46:47.640 So we kept track the whole time.
00:46:49.640 And, of course, we have got a reasonable program.
00:46:54.320 It's very, you know, energy prices are high,
00:46:58.200 and our government is blowing up our functioning world-best nuclear power plants. 0.59
00:47:06.620 I mean, that's ridiculous.
00:47:08.000 It's madness. 0.99
00:47:08.500 And that's, yeah, however you call it, it's crazy.
00:47:12.640 And this is what we keep explaining.
00:47:14.660 So why are we successful?
00:47:16.420 Because the others destroying everything we have.
00:47:20.320 They're destroying our country.
00:47:21.600 They're destroying our inner security.
00:47:23.560 They're destroying our industry.
00:47:26.680 You can see it.
00:47:27.620 Now you can see it.
00:47:28.700 You can even see it in the street.
00:47:30.000 When you walk in the street, everything is changing.
00:47:31.940 And we just keep on, you know, presenting our program and going against it.
00:47:39.240 The difficult thing, of course, is still, to some extent, the media,
00:47:45.520 especially when it comes to the elderly people,
00:47:49.920 because that's still the majority in our country.
00:47:53.820 And the elderly people still watch the standard news channels
00:47:56.520 and read the standard magazines and newspapers.
00:47:59.040 Yes, and this is the backbone of it.
00:48:00.000 And they think that you guys are quasi-fascist, right?
00:48:02.820 They portray you.
00:48:04.140 Yeah, I mean, this is what they say three times or a hundred times a day, every day, basically. 0.92
00:48:09.700 So they shout at us and they call us, you know, all kind of silly names.
00:48:17.340 And if you watch that 24-7, four years, you tend to believe.
00:48:23.940 And the younger people, they do not believe any longer in anything which is presented on public TV or on the mainstream media.
00:48:33.520 They become that cynical because they see it's all lies that are being found in propaganda?
00:48:37.820 Yes, and they can see the other side.
00:48:41.860 I mean, you can find information.
00:48:43.520 If you want, you can find information about, you know, Green Deal, about, you know, about energy problems, about everything on migration, illegal migration.
00:48:55.740 You can find the information if you want.
00:48:57.980 And the younger people, they do not believe any longer in what's presented.
00:49:01.340 And they find also a lot of what we present in social media, for example.
00:49:06.920 And we're very, very, and that's one, that's key for our success, of course, that's social media.
00:49:13.520 i mean we do not rely on you know mainstream media you know getting me into an interview
00:49:19.760 they won't do that so frequently and and they will not you know get me the possibility to get
00:49:25.040 out my message and to explain something they will just hammer on me and attack me and and so forth
00:49:30.720 and i'm not able to present what we want to present but we can do that on social media i'm
00:49:36.000 very successful we are very successful um with uh with on on instagram on tick tock on on facebook
00:49:44.240 and and on x everything um and uh we we get our message out um and the message is let's
00:49:52.800 save our country just do reasonable stuff and stop doing crazy stuff um and uh you know having a
00:50:01.760 function functioning electricity electricity system um and then blow it up and at the same
00:50:09.280 time try to build something else which doesn't work um but cost trillions not billions but trillions
00:50:19.840 we've got a minute or two here before we go if if it continues to develop
00:50:24.880 in germany along the lines and the economy still got coming towards this kind of economic and
00:50:30.000 financial crisis, and let's say they don't get to 2029, but they have to call an election
00:50:34.800 beforehand. And in that election, the people in Germany determine that without a coalition
00:50:41.160 partner that you are, they actually vote you in with a majority. Do you believe as you sit here
00:50:47.300 today that the German establishment would accept the outcome of that election? I'm not sure.
00:50:53.360 I'm not sure
00:50:55.060 and I think
00:50:55.960 I put it that way
00:50:58.520 either we run the country
00:51:01.100 by 2029
00:51:02.220 or they will ban our whole party
00:51:05.560 so as we're
00:51:07.220 very successful, we've just been
00:51:09.220 very successful in two or three regional
00:51:11.180 elections, they started again
00:51:13.460 the debate about banning
00:51:15.040 AFD as a whole
00:51:16.700 and that's also
00:51:18.480 still a threat
00:51:20.640 where do people go on your social media
00:51:23.320 where they go find out more about afd and more about you personally you can find us on all
00:51:29.400 social media outlets um i if you look for me it's just my name on all those platforms
00:51:34.840 features on storage and uh you can go to just alternative for deutschland and all the same thing
00:51:40.120 um in the effort very funny punch out here there is a you think an organized effort or at least
00:51:46.520 semi-organized to try to ban the party before it rises well they speak about that publicly
00:51:51.880 i mean that's not um it's not a conspiracy theory they they talk about it um and they
00:51:58.680 well they they might push push for it um but i think in the end uh with the strong friends abroad
00:52:07.480 um we we might push them back um and then we'll take over i think our white house i think i think
00:52:13.640 the german people are going to push back because uh you guys are heroes and patriots trust me the
00:52:17.880 people all over the world where you've come from on the little limited resources what you've been
00:52:22.760 up against in the deep state you people with the the uh how they try to terrorize you and intimidate
00:52:29.320 you and all the leaders and the people who vote for it it's been one of the guiding lights i
00:52:34.120 think throughout the world so now the students become the teachers okay we're uh we'll see you
00:52:39.720 back here at 10 a.m eastern daylight time tomorrow morning thank you so much for coming here while
00:52:43.560 way you're visiting DC. I always appreciate you. And your husband's the best. Thank you, Steve.
00:52:48.120 I love that guy. Talk to him daily. Okay, see you back here in the war room,
00:52:51.880 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow morning.
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