00:04:19.140unilaterally they agreed they're going to walk
00:04:22.300out of the chamber and not participate in the vote for the state premier at all and that correct
00:04:30.020me if i'm wrong here the fact that they had to take that vote and take that policy is an indication
00:04:37.520to me that cdu leadership from friedrich metz the chancellor of germany on down the party hierarchy
00:04:45.280in the CDU no longer has the confidence that it can insist on the discipline of the firewall
00:04:52.500holding. So they said, OK, everyone has to leave the chamber. So there's no suspicion now that the
00:04:58.460CDU will be voting for the AFD candidate. Tell us, in your own words, because you're there,
00:05:05.780Reiner Gross, exactly what is happening in Germany over the past seven days.
00:05:10.240Yes, thank you to be here. I'm really happy to have the opportunity to give you reporting directly from firsthand here.
00:05:23.280What is happening? We see a construction, the firewall. It is a crime against democracy. It is a crime against the people who voted by more than 45 percent for a party who is and which is the middle of the spectrum.
00:05:46.760We are the real conservatives, not the CDU, and they try to keep power against the will of the people, and this, I would say, truly is a crime.
00:06:00.440And as you described, they plan to prevent their own delegates to use their rights as a member of the state parliament to vote for a president they want.
00:06:23.360And this is directly aiming at the heart of democracy.
00:06:28.440So what we see here in Germany, especially in the state of Saxony-Anhalt, is a dying of freedom, a dying of democracy.
00:06:40.100And we all keep fingers crossed that our colleagues in Saxony-Anhalt will overcome this and that the reasonability that democracy, the soul of democracy, will win this fight.
00:06:58.860tell me what the um oh it certainly looks like that and the momentum certainly
00:07:05.940seems to be moving in in that direction i can only repeat what i said
00:07:10.940at the beginning of the show which is that from my perspective as an external analyst looking in
00:07:19.160the firewall has fundamentally served to divide german politics into all of the parties together
00:07:26.880on one side and the AFD on the other. And once you've passed a certain threshold, once people
00:07:34.440have decided that they're going to ignore like that 1,100 page confidential report that the
00:07:40.720Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution put out saying that the AFD was
00:07:46.560a party inciting the resentment of migrants as well as racism and Islamophobia.
00:07:56.920Once Germans decide that they're just going to ignore that and put that to the side,
00:08:02.660the firewall, the Brandmauer, concentrates people's minds.
00:08:07.640Are they going to vote for all of the parties in A category or the single party in B category,
00:08:13.540which is now the de facto opposition, the only opposition, where it's not in the majority.
00:08:20.160So it would seem to me that the firewall at this point, once the AFD had really sort of cracked into 10, 15 percent,
00:08:28.480it actually became an instrument that you have been using to become even more powerful.
00:08:34.240Because if people are angry with the existing system and the existing establishment,
00:08:39.540They put all of the establishment parties in one category and say, well, I don't want that.
00:08:44.880I can see what's happening to my country. I want this. I want the only alternative in time.
00:08:49.980So it's actually been an instrument that's concentrated Germans' minds and it's been working to your favour as I see it.
00:08:58.920Tell me, however, because the other thing here that I find particularly intriguing about German politics
00:09:06.660is the role of Sarah Wagenknecht, the leader of the BSW.
00:09:11.880Now, for our largely American audience, this is an unusual politician on the left,
00:09:18.500considered to be further to the left than the Social Democrats,
00:09:22.680but a politician who is, for example, against the war in Ukraine
00:09:31.280and speaks, Sarah Wagenknecht herself speaks very clearly
00:09:37.100about needing to construct a proper serious relationship
00:10:56.540But on the other hand, she is an intelligent and reasonable person.
00:11:01.600And so we should talk to them, if they are in the parliament, to find points where we can work together, because the difficult situation that, as you said,
00:11:17.640And we have a company of the old parties which try to prevent every other political movement to get into power and to get into a responsible task.
00:12:34.980We have to be at the table and we have to find the possibilities.
00:12:41.100And so we try to use any contact which is possible without joining them.
00:12:48.720We are decidedly at the party on a total other mindset.
00:12:55.660We are freedom fighters and not on the leftist side.
00:12:59.900And so the BSW has to think about how they can establish reasonable solutions with us, because we don't leave from the freedom wave.
00:13:13.060We will stay on it. They can join us or they can let it be.
00:13:18.240I just want to, and this is a simplification, it's not an exact analogy, but as a simplification for our largely American audience, a collaboration, if coalition is too strong a word, between the AFD and the BSW would be something like, in the American context, MAGA having a collaboration with the AFD.
00:13:48.240bernie sanders who would be a non-establishment figure on the left charismatic non-establishment
00:13:56.860figure on the left um that's how i that's how i would pitch this simplification there's not a
00:14:04.000total overlap on either side um but it indicates where politics are and i think it could be
00:14:09.560transformative just on this point tell me if you wouldn't mind ulrich siegmund the your uh your
00:16:05.200to avoid that any CDU member ever will elect Ulrich Sigmund.
00:16:14.140And again, what I said, this is neglecting the people's will.
00:16:20.960People's will is to have Ulrich Sigmund as a premier.
00:16:26.220And so those old parties, CDU especially, they destroy our drone habits and our democratic forms by doing that.
00:16:42.400This is really a very bad development, and so we try to convince some of the delegates, some of the members of Parliament of Saxony-Anhalt to overcome this and say, okay, we have to be responsible to our duties and to the state and to elect Ulrich Seguent.
00:17:08.800ryan gross please stand by hold on i'll be back in two minutes i have to give a quick shout out now
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00:20:16.660All right, we've got five minutes left of the show now.
00:20:20.980So let's finish off, go back to Rainer Gross, who is the alternative for Deutschland,
00:20:28.920the AFD Member of Parliament in Bavaria.
00:20:32.980Um, hat tip to our friends over at Remix News. Great research here. 63.4% of welfare recipients have a migration background. And that is costing taxpayers in Germany at an annualized estimate, 21.2 billion euros.
00:20:58.360So I did the calculation, folks, and I wanted to know what that would be in equivalent terms, comparing GDP to GDP in the U.S. of A.
00:21:09.260And that's $150 billion. That's the figure, $150 billion equivalent.
00:21:15.940It's how much Germany is spending each year on people who shouldn't even be in the country.
00:21:21.580Rainer Gross, what is the AFD going to do about it if you win the next federal election and get Alice Weidel in to the chancellery?0.91
00:21:35.680First of all, we will put an end to the German life lie that we have to save the world to host everyone who needs help or things.0.87
00:21:50.300He needs help on the whole world. This is not possible for German people to finance. And so we have to divide between people who are here illegally, without any right, and they have to leave, certainly.0.98
00:22:09.760And this is especially many Syrians and Afghans and other people who are also culturally a problem for us because they don't want to learn German, they know nothing about Germany, they all want the money, our money.1.00
00:22:28.640And it's not the fact that they will work.1.00
00:22:34.660And all people who don't want to work and have no right to be here have to leave the country at one time or another
00:22:48.440It's not willing anymore to finance people just for their existence.
00:22:54.400If, on the other hand, people come to Germany to work here, to give a contribution to the country, they are welcomed, very welcomed.
00:23:07.180And so our task after winning the election and after overtaking the government is to make it clear to people from all over the world,
00:23:20.760They are welcome if they work and they have to leave if they only try to to get an income from us without any any doing and any any effort.
00:23:34.700That's the point. And so we have to be fast to solve this problem.
00:23:39.960Can I push back on that? If I may, because we only have a couple of minutes of the show left.
00:23:47.480That's a bit CDU-ish, right? It's a bit sort of what I might expect from the CDU about 10, 15 years ago.
00:23:57.880People today, they're really looking for red meat, and they're fed up with the invasion, and they want people who are in the country,
00:24:06.440it doesn't matter if it's Germany, America, England, or where I am in Italy, people who have invaded the country,
00:24:11.800of welching off the benefits they want to see leadership political leadership that says0.76
00:24:19.660unequivocally these people must go back and when it comes to people coming in and contributing
00:24:25.560that's a separate conversation surely the point is we we have here in italy huge i know that's
00:24:32.760different in germany huge youth unemployment let's have let's have a political the political
00:24:38.420confidence to say everybody who wants to have a job should be able to find a job and when we have
00:24:45.200that situation when we have full employment we italy we uk we germany we america we will decide0.99
00:24:55.200who we want to invite in from other countries we won't tolerate people from other countries
00:25:00.940deciding for themselves that they want to come to these countries set up home produce one kid0.99
00:25:06.740after another and and live of welfare we will decide who we want to come in according to what
00:25:12.660we think what contribution they can make can people who are supporting the afd who are thinking
00:25:20.220about the afd people who are apolitical in germany perhaps they haven't voted recently
00:25:24.620can they have the confidence that the afd is going to deliver for them on that agenda
00:25:29.840perhaps you misunderstood what i said we are totally decided to do that there is no question
00:25:39.580about that but on the other hand we are obliged to do it legally and we have to to to take into
00:25:51.600account that we are not alone on the planet you have to have a counterpart and so this
00:32:58.160And you warned him, this is back in 2014, I think,
00:33:01.860and you'd warned him against introducing legalising euthanasia in his state.
00:33:12.600Now the Supreme Court, Canada's Supreme Court subsequent to that, decided that euthanasia was actually an element of health care and therefore the prerogative of the national government and therefore legislated for the whole of Canada, imposed euthanasia on the whole of Canada.
00:33:34.920before that it was handled on a state-by-state basis and when Philip
00:33:43.260Coulard who I repeat was then at that stage the the premier of Quebec was
00:33:49.020toying publicly toying with the idea of euthanasia you went in he was I think he
00:33:53.280was consulting with all sides you went in and you spoke to him you had a
00:33:57.120conversation with him which is quite prophetic and quite accurate and you
00:34:01.860said i know what you're trying to do here but i follow this around the world you bring this in now
00:34:08.560on the hard cases and the various lobby lobbies will work in such a way as no matter how how it's
00:34:19.380defined it was quite loosely defined back in the day over 10 years ago but however it's defined
00:34:24.220they will use that they'll it's like getting the camel's nose under the tent they will use it and
00:34:30.200they will run with it now the first full year after the state of Quebec did go
00:34:38.540ahead and legalized euthanasia there were some 600 or so cases people who were
00:34:45.800euthanized in the first full year ten years later that statistic had increased
00:34:55.280by tenfold i think this is 2025 correct me if i'm wrong alex the figure was over 6 000 that's a
00:35:01.700tenfold increase in right yeah just 10 years and the interview that that philip coulard gave to cbc
00:35:10.960actually he said and this shows a degree of integrity if i'm to take him on good for good
00:35:19.380faith he said if i'd have known now right if i'd have realized this uh i probably wouldn't have
00:35:26.520supported the law back in in the day and to give him credit he said and people were coming me
00:35:33.760sort of back in 2014 saying that this was gonna that this is exactly this was going to happen and
00:35:41.060i didn't believe them and the way he recounted it and the way you recount it in your article
00:35:45.980I think it's pretty clear that if he's not explicitly referring to the conversation that you had had with him, he's referring to conversations that you and fellow pro-life activists had said.
00:35:59.980I think he's referring to the conversation that you had, but it's not important.
00:36:03.600The importance is that you had a lunch with him, you told him this, exactly these things, many other people would have done so as well.
00:36:11.680this is important this is important for where america is right now in terms of health care
00:36:16.320ballooning costs it is inevitable that the sick the vulnerable the dying inevitable when resources
00:36:24.040are scarce that pressure is going to be put on them it is anyway because resources being scarce
00:36:31.120doctors do make decisions as to when to end life the thing here is is the pushing the coaxing of
00:36:37.880people to make that voluntary decision in advance and we are now at the stage quite routinely that
00:36:45.240people even change their indications and it doesn't matter there was a story a couple of weeks ago
00:36:50.100alex you might have seen it where um where this girl's grandmother uh had had uh had tried to
00:36:55.760withdraw her consent and they basically strapped her down screaming resisting and killed her um
00:37:01.500look that's the introduction i've wanted to get you on the show for a long time alex just explain
00:37:07.460to us go back if you wouldn't mind over 10 years ago and look at in your own words that conversation
00:37:14.260that you had had with with the then prime minister of the state of quebec well let's put this in a
00:37:20.680total perspective quebec now has the highest euthanasia rate in the world so quebec has gone
00:37:26.340absolutely crazy with this as a jurisdiction there's about eight million people who live in
00:37:31.500Quebec. And based on their number of euthanasia deaths, they outdo the Netherlands euthanasia
00:37:40.020numbers. And not only have they extremely increased the number of deaths to beyond
00:37:47.100what anybody would expect, like it's beyond 8% of all deaths are euthanasia. But on top of that,
00:37:53.180it's the type of deaths. But what happened is that when they were debating the bill back in
00:37:58.4402013, 2014. I'll give you a little bit of history. The bill actually started as part of a
00:40:21.380Because the other discussion we had over lunch was the language of the bill.
00:40:25.320I said, well, you know, you're saying your bill is going to be tight.
00:40:29.300In fact, it's interesting, just so you know, at the time, the Minister of Health, he had said in the Quebec legislature, he predicted they would have about 100 a year, about 100 a year.
00:40:42.000Well, as I show in the data, the very first year, they had 638 reported cases.
00:41:14.320But I had said, you know, the language of your bill is not going to even allow it to be held down, to be controlled.
00:41:22.040And, of course, sadly, I was exactly right.
00:41:25.180And obviously, I wouldn't have wanted to be right.
00:41:27.060I'd rather that there would be no killing.
00:41:29.760But even if there's going to be some killing, that it would only be the few.
00:41:32.480But in this case, of course, it's as common.
00:41:35.200I'm opposed to killing people because I don't believe you should ever have a law that allows somebody else in that country to be able to kill you.
00:41:43.240by this means, and this is what's going on.
00:41:45.980So, you know, the bigger topic has become,
00:41:47.960well, now what's going on in Quebec with the huge numbers?
00:41:50.760Because I also mentioned in that article
00:42:13.100So that brings up the whole thing of what happened in Montreal, for instance, with St. Raphael Hospice, which was set up by the Archdiocese of Montreal.
00:42:23.740And they had a 99-year agreement with the government of Quebec that they would not have to do killing.
00:42:31.620And, of course, when they passed that law, they said, well, this new law supersedes your 99-year agreement.
00:42:36.960Therefore, you're going to have to do it.
00:42:39.320And so this is the kind of thing that's happened in Quebec.
00:42:41.640so you get that sort of situation on top of it you've got euthanasia by advanced requests so
00:42:46.220people people who become incompetent can still be killed in quebec and uh this is i want to dig in
00:42:55.080on this hold on alex i'll dig in on that precise point the forced euthanasia just let me give a
00:43:01.260quick shout out to the show's spawn so i did mention them early in the first half of the show
00:43:05.700So I'm leaning heavily on this article in the Financial Times that came out today, in fact, that says that investors are predicting new record price for gold within two years.
00:43:20.700This is absolutely in line with war room predictions.
00:43:26.620And of course, it builds on the fact that we are heading into economic times of turbulence.
00:43:34.140Pretty much every time on this show, I indicate the spot price of gold.
00:43:38.880It was $4,000 per ounce a month or so ago.
00:43:47.060A few months before that, it was up to $4,500.
00:43:49.180thousand it's going up it's going down it is it right now to around just shave
00:43:54.520over four thousand here's the point gold is going up and the market is sensing
00:44:00.760that central banks purchases of gold are that record highs you might be thinking
00:44:06.640well okay so that's okay for the billionaires for the central banks how
00:44:10.220does that affect me well if you have savings in cash in dollars you ought to
00:44:16.960be pretty careful right now building on what president trump him said and i mentioned this
00:44:21.560in the first half of the show what what president trump himself said last week about inflation
00:44:28.340being a potential strategy that the treasury can employ to bring down to whittle away to inflate
00:44:36.980away the 40 trillion dollar national debt well so what can you do um firstly be concerned because
00:44:46.480if you do have savings in dollars back though that can start evaporating pretty quickly second
00:44:54.580thing is take that concern from potential into action and speak to Philip Patrick and his team
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00:45:24.040birch gold.com forward slash bannon do it now when you get Philip Patrick on the
00:45:29.560end of the line ask him to elaborate on what President Trump had said about
00:45:34.120using inflation as a strategy to whittle away the national debt and ask him about
00:45:41.080about this article in EFT that investors are predicting record price for gold within two years
00:45:47.500and it is at presently an extremely competitive price just a little over four thousand dollars
00:45:55.420per ounce okay back with Alex Schadenberg so Alex just quickly I do want to ask you I mean I know
00:46:02.440you also have some research out that says we've been talking about the state of Quebec in the
00:46:07.720first off um over the the wider picture over canada nationally the headline figure back in
00:46:15.660the spring was a hundred thousand people had been euthanized your research indicates the updated
00:46:21.720figure is actually near to 110 000 is it the case am i being cynical here or is the regime
00:46:28.340using canadians natural progressive instincts effectively against them because they're the ones