WarRoom Battleground EP 249: The Lies Of Administrative Health State
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Stephen K. Bannon and Natalie Winters join host Stephen K.K. Brien to discuss the latest breaking news involving the Trump administration and the coronavirus pandemic. They also discuss the recent testimony by CDC Director Anthony Fauci.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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Stephen K. Bannon okay welcome it's uh Thursday 9 March here earlier 2023 there's so much going on
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number one uh breaking news New York Times headline prosecutors signal criminal charges for Trump are
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likely uh the former president was told that he could appear before a Manhattan grand jury next week
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if he wishes to testify a strong indication that an indictment can soon follow this is about the
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Stormy Daniels hush money situation a complete joke as we know about the Manhattan DA it's just
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that they're out of control um also I don't quite know what the story is we're trying to get it but
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Peter Thiel has gone on gone out and said that people associated with anybody's got money I guess money
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in Silicon Valley Bank which has been historically the premier bank of lending for the for the uh for
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the companies in Silicon Valley I mean some of the great companies Silicon Valley Bank he's saying
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take your money it looks like he's been a mini run of the bank stocks down 60 percent I think they've
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maybe halted trading or halting trading they've halted trading uh really this is a it has historically
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been really a a very well known with a platinum client list down in Silicon Valley so something's
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up there of course Biden with the 6.8 trillion dollar budget today with not any spending cuts I want
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to make sure you understand how in your grill he is on this thing largest increase I think 5.2 percent
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pay increase for federal employees of increases across the board um just in pure insanities we've
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got a bunch of tax cuts that'll never happen they talks about but this is McCarthy's into it also the
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great Matt Boyle's got an incredible interview up on Breitbart we're going to try to play cuts of that
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later but I want to bring in Natalie Winters our executive editor co-host here Natalie uh this this
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situation overnight I I don't think my phone is blown up which blows up every night as much as this
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incredible testimony yesterday by Redfield and how serious this is and what this means not just
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geopolitically and financially uh but what it really means to the country about uh about our
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institutions uh this yesterday I'll let you take it from here I know you got a whole series of things
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to go through Twitter feeds clips all that so our own Natalie Winters Natalie's been on this for a
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couple of years since the very early days of the pandemic she was still at the University of Chicago
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as an undergraduate but she was the I guess the senior investigative reporter at uh Rahim Kassam's
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National Pulse uh and just did incredible work as you know we've had Natalie on for a number of years
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now Natalie I want to toss this thing over to you you take it from here because this is about as
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important a series of topic as we have here now in the country which is hey we're hurtling towards a
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third world war uh we have a financial collapse in our country uh and on top of that much of this
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if not all of this was triggered by the pandemic that came out of the Wuhan lab ma'am yeah and I think
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uh Dr. Redfield is really one of the most serious witnesses that you could have right as the former
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CDC director but why I think this testimony is so explosive and I know we throw that word around a lot
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but I really think it is applicable here is because his testimony um in this hearing that took place
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yesterday in front of the house select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic doesn't just implicate
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the Chinese communist party but it implicates their counterparts here in the United States
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particularly Anthony Fauci but really the national institutes of health more broadly um and while
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this show has obviously focused extensively on what I would call sort of the biological warfare side
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of the whole COVID-19 pandemic right the Wuhan Institute of Virology the bat lady Shir Jung Lee
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the gain of function research even though we don't like that name because it's too nice sounding
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the other and frankly I think almost more insidious aspect of the whole COVID-19 pandemic
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was the information warfare that was was waged and that continues to be waged I think you saw it
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particularly pronounced in terms of obscuring the origins of COVID but this of course continued
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into the narratives about therapeutics and vaccines and mask mandates and you know staying at home and
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all these different regulations but why Dr. Redfield's testimony again it sounds like stuff we were saying
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on war room you know two to three years ago but he says point blank um that Anthony Fauci the national
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institutes of health funded gain of function research and why this is so important just to sort of provide
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a general overview because I think it's important when we watch these hearings to understand how what
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is being said the testimony that we're hearing and seeing how that actually translates into criminal
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referrals right we love the talk we love the narratives we love being vindicated uh but I think the war room
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policy also wants some actual accountability and why what Dr. Redfield said was so important
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is because Anthony Fauci is on record repeatedly people may remember his exchange with Senator
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Rand Paul not only saying that he didn't fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology but he adamantly denied
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that he was ever involved with gain of function research so either Dr. Redfield is lying or Dr.
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Anthony Fauci is lying uh and I would place my money uh that it's more likely that Anthony Fauci is lying
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and I don't just say that because we know he's probably one of the most egotistical bureaucrats in the
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history of modern America but as someone who has you said reported on this topic extensively the primary
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documents the papers that were published by the Wuhan Institute of Virology the web pages that were
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deleted the genomic sequences that were hid from the World Health Organization and other American
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researchers I think even though the CCP has done an epic job to kind of institute this cover-up and hide and
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obscure the origins of COVID from what we've been able to piece together if you sort of find the crime in the
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cover-up um it's very very very clear the National Institutes of Health specifically the taxpayer dollars
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were involved I want to tee this up in in in and uh so make sure the audience understands what you're
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about to hear from Natalie the it is extraordinary I don't think it's ever happened I've never seen it
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happen and not only have been doing this I don't know for 10 12 years but I've studied this for many
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many decades I don't ever think we've had two institutions that are so central to a part of
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American life and this would be public health um like CDC now totally contradicting what man is
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very shocking uh firsthand evidence and and and firsthand um uh angle of attack or or or understanding
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from the CDC director against another no two institutions have ever gone at it publicly like
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this and I and people should understand NIH uh with uh Fauci runs a section of NIH NIH is run by Dr.
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Collins for years these are people we were told in the transition that you literally can't touch they
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are untouchable they are they are as big institutions as the institutions they run which are multi-billion
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dollars and they spread money around every congressional district normally through uh universities and what
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is so stunning is something so important which was really equivalent if you take it one direction almost
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an act of war but that totally changed the direction of American history and world history so this is not
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some marginal topic it's not even and we're all over the train derailment in the in the in the release
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into the atmosphere as important as this is that is this is 100 times more important and to have
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institutions like CDC and the leaders essentially calling people bald-faced liars and uh that they
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hit information is is shocking and monumental in American history so with that tee up and people
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Collins and Fauci are institutions in themselves and and and extraordinarily powerful Natalie winners the
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floor is yours ma'am yeah so if we could play the clip uh with the exchange featuring rep Maliotakis
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going it's about a two three minute clip I'm happy to sort of tee it up uh to give the production team
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a second to to get it uploaded um but this clip we played a brief segment of it yesterday the final
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seconds you can hear Dr. Redfield admit that it was gain-of-function research going on at the Wuhan
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Institute of Virology um but the other interesting aspect of this hearing again just to sort of lay down a
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general marker because like I said there's a lot of bombshells a lot of buried leads in this you know
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multi-hour hearing um the other component which I think goes to what you're talking about right
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use COVID as a case study not just to how our government lies to us but how they have these
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coordinated campaigns to really obscure the truth because they are the guilty parties in terms of
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enacting this so if you watch the beginning of the exchange which we will momentarily uh it really
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gets to I would say just the evil lengths to which Anthony Fauci and his colleagues at the NIH
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uh really I would say stooped to um to suppress people who disagreed with them in terms of the
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natural origins theory versus the lab leak theory
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tried to explain to Dr. Fauci who's an immunologist that this virus SARS and MERS when they infected
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uh man from the intermediate host civet cat in the case of SARS and a camel in case of MERS
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they never learned how to go human to human so those original outbreaks were less than a thousand
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people and the epidemics died and so when everyone thought this was SARS-like well that's gonna it's
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gonna die too but this virus was immediately the most infectious virus not the most I think probably
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right behind measles virus that we've ever seen infect man so I immediately said wait a second
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this isn't natural and then you go back and look at the literature and you find in 2014 this lab
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actually published a paper that they put the H2 receptor into humanized mice so it can infect human
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tissue and then you learn that the new COVID which came from bats now can hardly replicate in bats
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yeah so how does that happen so I said that my view as a virologist again my hypothesis and I never
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discredited them for their hypothesis it's the spillover was that this was most likely to come
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from the lab and we need to aggressively investigate both hypotheses thank you thank you very much I
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haven't so one one other path of questioning for you dr riffle proponents of this research claim it may
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result in vaccines or maybe even stop a pandemic dr redfield has gain of function created any life-saving
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vaccines or therapeutics to your knowledge not to my knowledge has gain of function if stopped a pandemic
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to in your opinion no on the contrary I think it probably caused the greatest pandemic our world has seen
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do you find any tangible benefits to gain of function research at this time I personally don't but I do want
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to stress I think the men and women that supported are people of good faith because they truly believe
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it's going to lead to a potential benefit I disagree with that assessment well that wasn't the exact
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clip that we were going for but I think the production team is working on playing that one later but
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uh if you want Steve I'm happy to sort of unpack that because it does dovetail with what I was talking
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about yeah yeah I want to I want to I want to get to the last one we'll get this thing sort of here in a
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second but here the that is so powerful and talk to me about what's this directed what's called
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directed evolution that takes you tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions of years into
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the future with this the gain of function let's call it what it is it is a part of the biological
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weapons process to basically weaponize uh these viruses to weaponize them to make them into weapons you
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can use okay the the the theory that you're trying to do this because of you think that
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there may be viruses out there and you get to vaccines earlier that's just a lie and the guy
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right there asked the question says has any vaccine come no boom there's any therapies no
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this is why this is why the Obama administration when they found out that this was going on at
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places like the University of Maryland others they shut it down is that it isn't that the basic
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takeaway of everything else that comes from from Redfield's I mean that's the railhead
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of what the problem is Fauci and these guys are pro gain of function and they're supporting gain
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of function have been funding gain of function and when they're caught doing it here in the United
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States which the labs have much more control they do it over they use a cutout and it's basically
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like uh uh Echo Health Alliance and they do it overseas and Redfield's sitting there going
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hey and not only has it not helped on any vaccines it's probably created the worst virus in history
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yeah Anthony Fauci is on record as defending gain of function research in a paper back from 2014
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as an integral part um really of the scientific community so that's that's no surprise there but
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I think what's so interesting when it comes to talking about gain of function research which I
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think it's like one of those terms like social credit score it's too euphemistic for for really
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what's going on the PR agents have really been working over time to come up with a better spin on
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it um but that form of research it's very interesting as someone who has read probably
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wait way too many um papers that have been published by the Wuhan Institute of Virology
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um and the type of research they were engaging in they always kind of offer the caveat or really the
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specialization of their form of gain of function research um particularly isolating strains of viruses
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that can impact humans for example and the Wuhan Institute of Virology's I believe it was their annual
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report in 2012 or 2013 which of course had been you know right from the internet which again was just
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one year before they started getting federal funds from Anthony Fauci to engage in gain of function
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research they said that they were isolating coronavirus strains for quote direct human infection um and
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and what's so interesting if we have time before the break um is that Ralph Baric right this is a name
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that you keep hearing he's a really important figure in all of this because he's the person that gave
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the humanized mice models to the Wuhan Institute of Virology he's someone who's been overseas and it
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goes to what you were saying in terms of the co-mingling of vaccine development with the people
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who are also extensively protecting us from pandemics and that's where the major I would say really
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existential threat to humanity arises because the same people who are profiting off of pandemics
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happening are also the ones who are supposed to be preventing them so we have a short clip clip
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two to play that we had unearthed back when I was at the National Pulse a year or two ago and this is
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Ralph Baric who again created these humanized mice models for the Wuhan Institute of Virology to work with
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specifically talking about how you can profit off of pandemics so if we could play that that would be great
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during the Ebola outbreak there was about an eight to ten percent drop in the market it then
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quickly recovered I wanted to give you good news you can there are winners out there right so if you're
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looking at you want to be prepared and make money in the next pandemic if that's what you want to do
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buy stock and hazmat suit makers and protective clothing or our companies that make antiviral drugs
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of that particular pandemic you'll probably do pretty well they're actually mutual funds for pandemic
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preparedness you can bet on anything in this country some products do well 1918 including masks same thing
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today today pandemics really are times of opportunity and I like George RR Martin
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I mean he says you can see on the slide it says right global catastrophe opportunities exist and they
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talk about masks and all these different things again it's saying the quiet part out loud and the fun
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the funniest part too Steve is that when we first reported that video
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uh our very dear friends of the show lead stories Alan Duke um they came out in full force saying that
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we were wrong in our reporting that he wasn't talking about how to make money off of the pandemic
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and he actually received not long after a six-figure grant from the Chan Zuckerberg initiative the same
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group that was funding the center for tech and civic life so I know there are no conspiracies and no
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coincidences but I really think Ralph Barrett yeah hang on your your reporting on this uh came when when
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you were at national pulse uh do you remember what what the time frame was when you you were doing the
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barrack stories because barrack is a central figure in this and has not gotten enough we have not made
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him famous enough when when did the first stories you did on national pulse come out about this oh goodness
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um probably would have been the summer of two two years ago I think um yeah 2020 2020 it was it was
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before the it was the summer of 2020 right yeah okay I want to just make sure everybody understands
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something this guy barrack in the university of north carolina because this is what the um in the spring
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of 2020 right after we had president trump came about the shutdowns when we were just right before between
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the march basically trump saying this is a national emergency in the in the two weeks to flatten the
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curve which basically I think occurred in late April or in May NBC one time played they had it was like
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on a Saturday and they had like a five minute clip on this guy barrack who was interviewed and he was
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talking about all this and I said man the gain of function that's the thing that got shut down
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this guy is a very dangerous guy he is a guy that is at the center of this entire thing
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and I it was interesting because the university in north carolina I think came in immediately and kind
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of shut this down because we went on the show the next couple of days and go hey this guy barrack uh
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in the in this lab in a university of north carolina is one of the problems because they've been doing
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the gain of function you know research and this was stuff that was you know not supposed to be done
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anywhere except for dietrich right um and uh all of a sudden because he was they were telling him on
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this on the on the NBC uh five minute a clip that oh this guy knows so much about and he's gonna know
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really about uh you know how to handle this never mentioned they never mentioned at all uh natalie
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any relationships with the cheese ccp any relationship with china they never really tell you what they're
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doing until you guys get this clip of showing him at a conference i mean this guy barrack is going to
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be right down he's going to be a notch below fauci when this thing's all over your thoughts ma'am
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yeah i mean we have it on on record in terms of sure john lee who is the wuhan institute of
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virology's bat lady she really led a lot of the the research going on there into coronaviruses
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but she calls him one of her long-time collaborators along with peter doszak um deleted web pages from the
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wuhan institute of virology show ralph barrick being over there repeatedly lecturing at events
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lecturing researchers even at conferences where they discussed and they're in the wuhan institute
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virology's words gain of function research he's someone who has a very very very long track record
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of collaborating with with wuhan but it's very funny because they totally did a 180 on him they
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stopped covering him they stopped bringing him on prime time uh i think we sort of forced them to
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cover him again when we had unearthed this clip but he's also someone who made it out of the pandemic
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i would argue pretty unscathed uh you know anthony fauci actually delivered the commencement address
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at unc chapel hill that year uh that that covid really raged throughout the united states and he
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recently received i think it was like a 60 million dollar grant um from the national institutes of health
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to fund a school at unc chapel hill to focus on pandemic prevention and vaccine development you know
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the whole racket all the terms that we know all too well so he needs to be not just famous but
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infamous because again he basically gave kind of the nuts and bolts the pieces for the wuhan institute
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virology to create this frankenstein monster um and the mainstream media really has been running running
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cover for him go ahead continue on with your with your presentation ma'am very powerful sure i think
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we have the clip that i had originally called for so if we want to play that please go ahead
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40 seconds left dr fauci was affirmatively told and told in an email that uh niaid had a monetary
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relationship with the wuhan uh institute through uh ecohealth alliance he he was told this in january 27th
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of 2020. do you think that dr fauci intentionally lied under oath to senator paul when he vehemently denied
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nih's funding of gain of function research i think there's no doubt that nih was funding gain of
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function research is it likely that american tax dollars funded the gain of function research that
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created this virus i think it did not only from nih but from the state department usa id and from dod
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so that was also not the right clip um if we want to play either the other one the actual right one or the
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one with comer uh to talk about the the cover-up aspect of it but in the meantime just again to i
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think really juxtapose where war room was so ahead of the curve in terms of the weaponization of these
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pathogens and another perfect example of how we put these stories out and the fact checkers came out in
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full force uh to brand us as as you know spreading fake news spreading health misinformation if you guys
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want to play clip one of peter dashak talking about his collaborations with the wuhan institute of
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virology coronaviruses in bats a whole host of them some of them looked very similar to sars so we
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sequence the spike protein the protein that attaches to cells then we well i didn't do this work but
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my colleagues in china did the work you create pseudoparticles you look you insert the spike proteins
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from those viruses see if they bind to human cells and each step of this you move closer and closer
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to this virus could really become pathogenic in people so you narrow down the field you reduce the
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cost and you end up with a small number of of viruses that really do look like killers then you look in
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people and you say in the people that live in the region where this animal lives that are exposed to
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that virus do we see antibodies specifically you can hear he calls them killer viruses and i remember
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when we posted that like i said lead stories came out uh with all their other social media counterparts
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and and said that we were spreading fake news but i think it's a perfect example and frankly
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hopefully we can play the right clip after this um but what gets to the cover-up aspect which is sort
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of what i wanted to pivot to now um because i think it it really is interesting in light of
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everything that we've learned about the twitter files right the idea that the federal government
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is working hang on hang on one second hang on one second hang on so i can't understand it
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he's just said right there and i want to make sure that our audience understands this when you talk
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about this you talk about this research and and to make sure people in their mind this is the
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weaponization of evolution this is a weaponization of biology and these guys know their killer viruses
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the whole i just because we'll go back after the break too because i want to go back to the
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congressman asking um redfield about who pay for it there is no doubt and this is what we got to strip
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away here this is not about scientific research to find solutions for viruses that don't exist
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what happened here and major institutions throughout the world supported this in the chinese communist
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party in the pla is known of being of signing the biological weapons treaty and not abiding by it
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and i just want to tell people in the navy when we have nuclear weapons chemical weapons biological
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weapons when you look at defenses for that the biological weapons is by far the hardest because
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there's really no defense for it it's almost no defense for it that's why what china was doing and we
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were allowing to do and having people and you know support it with our tax dollars and not just that our
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expertise in technology and dosik sits right there and they talk about it these are killer viruses the
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reason is they've been weaponized isn't that the beating heart of the problem here and that people
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have just kind of every time you've done it at national pulse or other people they kind of
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poo poo it as oh that's not that's not real fauci and all these things and this is what rand paul's
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been trying to get to this was a biological weapons program in a lab that was not controlled was
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controlled by the pla and the ccp and that we institutions in this country and and people
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that should have known better were in business with them to help them do that natalie winters
00:25:36.180
yeah i think is you know the concept of transhumanism is to the creation of really you know human 2.0
00:25:42.500
right a superhuman gain-of-function research is the is the i would say kind of counterpart in the
00:25:47.700
scientific realm to create these super viruses that really wouldn't exist otherwise and again i think
00:25:55.060
this technology in the hands of anyone is really dangerous like dr redfield says there's never been
00:26:00.900
a historical or empirical application of it where it's actually done any good but when you really
00:26:06.100
try to understand the logic of the national institutes of health as to why they would put
00:26:10.580
this technology in the hands of the chinese communist party particularly a laboratory that no not only
00:26:18.100
explicitly employs people from the people's liberation army but of course in china given that there's no
00:26:23.620
meaningful difference between civil and military science um it it really i don't think that
00:26:29.540
ignorance is an adequate answer um i think it's intentional um i think all the way up to the upper
00:26:36.420
echelons to the faculty and the collins okay hang on we're gonna get to all this after short commercial
00:26:42.580
break also the level of competence these people knew this lab was not at the level though it's called a p4
00:26:49.300
lab it was not run at the level we know that from the state department memos okay short commercial
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break natalie winners are walking us through this the weaponization of these viruses and who funded it
00:26:59.540
who knew about it this explosive testimony uh in the house yesterday short commercial break back in a moment
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i think just to emphasize uh in in early to mid-january i did have multiple calls with fauci
00:31:29.460
farrar and and tedros about how important i thought it was that science get engaged in in aggressive
00:31:36.980
pursuing both hypotheses i also expressed as a clinical virologist that i felt it was um not
00:31:46.900
scientifically plausible that this virus went from a bat to humans and became one of the most
00:31:53.940
infectious viruses that we have with humans all viruses are not the same so when you look at coronaviruses
00:32:01.140
for sars and mers for example when they entered the human species which they did via an intermediate
00:32:07.700
they never learned how to go human to human even to this day they don't know how to go human to human
00:32:12.340
so you can't equate ebola with a coronavirus now why do you why do you think you were excluded from
00:32:17.380
those calls i because it was i was told to me that uh they wanted a single narrative and that i
00:32:23.220
obviously had a different point of view okay and emails following the conference call for the 11
00:32:28.180
scientists told fauci that they all found the genetic sequence inconsistent with expectations
00:32:33.140
from evolutionary theory basically what you're saying however just three days later these four
00:32:37.540
scientists had drafted a paper arguing the exact opposite and that's now the infamous proximal origin
00:32:43.620
of sars covid 2. our investigations show this paper was prompted by dr fauci among others with a goal
00:32:50.420
to disprove the lab leak theory what is the likelihood that these scientists came across additional
00:32:55.380
information just three days after making these statements to conclude with such certainty that
00:33:00.020
covid 19 came from nature instead of the lab leak that they thought it was three days earlier yeah i think
00:33:05.940
it's unfortunate again i've said this before that this whole approach that was taken on january on
00:33:12.660
february 1st and subsequently in the month of february if you really want to be truthful it's
00:33:18.500
antithetical to science thank you science has debate and they squashed any debate thank you given what we
00:33:24.820
know now and looking at all the conversations in february of 2020 and before the release of the paper do you think
00:33:32.340
that dr fauci used this paper to hide the gain of function research created the gain of function research
00:33:39.780
created this virus i can't talk about fauci's motivation do you think that the paper does hide the truth
00:33:48.100
i think it's an inaccurate paper that basically was part of a narrative that they were creating remember
00:33:54.260
this pandemic did not start in january at the seafood market we now know there was infections all the
00:33:59.540
way back into september this was a narrative that was decided that they were going to say this came
00:34:04.500
from the wet market and they were going to do everything they could to support it to negate any
00:34:08.500
discussion about the possibility that this came from a laboratory i got 20 seconds left dr fauci was
00:34:12.500
affirmatively told and told in an email that uh niaid had a monetary relationship with the wuhan
00:34:19.940
institute through eco health alliance he he was told this in january 27th of 2020 do you think
00:34:26.580
that dr fauci intentionally lied under oath to senator paul when he vehemently denied nih's funding of
00:34:32.100
gain of function research i think there's no doubt that nih was funding gain of function research is it
00:34:37.060
likely that american tax dollars funded the gain of function research that created this virus i think it
00:34:42.420
did not only from nih but from the state department usa id and from dod i'm out of time thank you very much
00:34:49.460
it's still to me mind mind boggling to watch that clip because like i said it proves that anthony
00:34:55.220
fauci perjured himself right one of them one of them is lying um but what i think is so particularly
00:35:02.260
interesting and you're welcome to jump in steve i know they came up to me but um you know we give
00:35:08.100
the chinese communist party a lot of flack right for for running state-sponsored propaganda in terms of
00:35:13.060
covering up the origins of covid but what you really hear at peace together through this hearing is that the
00:35:17.940
united states is really guilty of the same crime in terms of silencing people who didn't support the
00:35:24.100
natural origins theory and really just excluding them from the discussion entirely and i think
00:35:29.460
it's important to to really contextualize when exactly this was taking place because i think
00:35:34.980
it's sort of you know the fog of war you forget but this was also during an election year and if you
00:35:39.860
remember donald trump had come out and pulled funding from eco health alliance he had come out
00:35:45.140
against the gain of function research that they were conducting and while there are ramifications
00:35:49.940
that extend beyond just donald trump and you know the 2020 election in terms of understanding the
00:35:55.940
federal government's complicity and really driving the spear behind lying about the origins of covid
00:36:01.380
i think much like the medical establishment did a 180 and just sort of put their blinders on and
00:36:06.580
opposed hydroxychloroquine because donald trump came out and supported it i think there was an element of
00:36:11.780
that too in terms of opposing the lab leak theory and this this statement that they're talking about
00:36:16.820
right the proximal origins of covid it was published in nature we're actually coming up on the three-year
00:36:22.100
anniversary it was march 19th of 2020 that they published it you know there were a lot of other
00:36:27.620
comparable papers um that set out specifically not even to necessarily support the natural origins theory
00:36:35.460
but to discredit and diminish and disqualify the natural the the lab leak theory which is a sort of
00:36:41.780
interesting position for a paper to have in the first place and people may remember uh you know og
00:36:46.820
devotees of war room peter dashak right a name that that we've said all too often uh he was one of the
00:36:52.980
leading signatories on a statement that came from the lancet medical journal that was really used to silence
00:36:58.660
discussion about the lab leak on mainstream media outlets um but later i think it was probably last
00:37:04.900
year they had to come out and they basically issued a retraction and they declared and exposed their
00:37:10.100
conflicts of interest and peter dashak was recused from that lancet uh covet 19 commission so again it's
00:37:16.820
just a perfect example of not how right we've been that's great it's awesome to feel vindicated um but i think
00:37:22.740
you're also left with a a very unsettling feeling um in terms of the conspiracy that occurred within
00:37:29.460
the national institutes of health within this club of i would call you know untouchables um the fauci's
00:37:35.060
the collins of the world um who really conspired and by the way make no mistake don't forget that
00:37:41.780
you know it's no coincidence that anthony fauci's temporary replacement um hugh uh achencloss who also
00:37:48.900
happens to have a son who is a democratic congressman who serves on the china select
00:37:53.940
subcommittee because there are no conspiracies only coincidences but he was anthony fauci's
00:37:58.580
deputy director right he was essentially number two to anthony fauci when all of this was going down
00:38:04.260
um and i think it's very apparent that they sort of keep their secrets in the family right they keep
00:38:08.500
it in the family there's a reason why he was chosen to replace fauci um they don't really like
00:38:14.020
outside blood like you said it i don't want to use the word cult but there is some element of that
00:38:19.300
right like if you don't believe what we think uh even if we don't have all the evidence right if your
00:38:23.620
hypothesis isn't the same as ours um then you're not even allowed in the room you're not you don't
00:38:28.980
have a seat at the table it really like i said just it it baffles the mind
00:38:33.620
but natalie here's what they did is so monstrous it's so monstrous this is why now the reveal and
00:38:47.540
he even says it started september what they did is so monstrous that you now understand
00:38:55.380
why they went to such extreme lengths not just to cover up but to suppress simultaneously both
00:39:00.900
cover up and then dismiss and suppress everybody remember war room is uh is off the uh you know
00:39:08.660
off twitter and all these others youtube and this other stuff for one of the big reasons was because
00:39:14.180
of this you know going after fauci and i'm not complaining about that we could care less we're
00:39:18.660
bigger now than we've ever been it doesn't make any difference but the acts are so monstrous
00:39:23.700
it so boggles the mind because it's got to settle into the american people that some of the top
00:39:31.780
people in public health some of the guardians of supposedly public health of the united states
00:39:37.700
actually actively work with companies when when other authorities including the national security
00:39:44.020
council of the obama administration was saying that this stuff is so dangerous that you shouldn't
00:39:49.940
do here in the united states we should shut it down everywhere couldn't be funny went out of their
00:39:53.380
way to to to basically continue this research not just with a a country that is controlled by an
00:40:02.580
existential threat to the american people the chinese communist party in the pla but also didn't
00:40:08.260
have the competence or the safety or security to do that and they continue to do this in a systematic
00:40:13.940
way and then when it exploded into the whole world to infect the whole world went out of their way to do
00:40:20.340
two things one to suppress that information from american and lying about it and number two uh i mean
00:40:26.500
you know conspiracy to hide it and then also to make sure they suppressed anybody that would come forward
00:40:33.060
with the truth this may be the most monstrous act by people that have sure known better in american
00:40:40.500
institutions because the institutions have to be called to account am i wrong is i mean this one's so
00:40:46.260
so i actually never actually thought we would get to this point to see it in a public testimony but
00:40:52.420
now i realize that that anthony fauci is not just a criminal he's a monstrous criminal and we'll have
00:40:57.860
to pay the penalty for that am i am i misreading what's happened here in the last 48 hours no not at all and
00:41:05.700
i will pledge on air now that i will file the freedom of information act request to get to the bottom of it
00:41:11.460
but i bet that it was nih or the subsidiary nia id that certainly reached out to these social media
00:41:18.820
platforms as we know this access between the public and private sector certainly exists evidence being
00:41:23.700
the twitter files um and all these sort of meetings that they've been holding to to obviously censor not
00:41:29.220
just shows like war room but you know the war room audience too um but i really think it shows you
00:41:34.100
really the weaponization of the national institutes of health um an agency that like you said sort of i think
00:41:40.660
forgot its mandate forgot its purview it should be protecting american health actually you know
00:41:46.660
engaging in defending public health and safety um but instead they only seem to be uh focused on
00:41:53.140
giving taxpayer dollars to the chinese communist party and actually weaponizing viruses uh against
00:41:59.940
american people in the world writ large and i think it's so interesting too steve because we talk about
00:42:04.980
how you know these elements these players lied about what went on in the wuhan institute of virology
00:42:11.780
but there's a very interesting parallel to draw which i spoke about very recently with monica crowley
00:42:16.260
on this show which is what was going on in the ukrainian bio labs because remember they used the same
00:42:21.940
playbook uh when we first broke that story back when i was at the national polls they had the same fact
00:42:26.740
checkers come out they said we were lying they weren't engaging in any risky forms of research even
00:42:31.700
though the primary documents the grant receipts showed that they were engaging with quote especially
00:42:37.380
dangerous pathogens it's a now deleted article that i believe obama was quoted in um but i think it
00:42:44.340
really just sets an interesting precedent for just really the the broader kind of territory of what's
00:42:49.380
going on in these bio labs which frankly i don't know why the united states is in the business of setting up
00:42:55.620
biosafety level three and biosafety level four facilities in either china or on the border of
00:43:01.220
russia and ukraine but i think it really sort of allows us and gives us the the justification to
00:43:07.940
ponder what what the heck is going on in those ukrainian bio labs too because if they're using the same
00:43:12.900
playbook that's now been proven false um it sort of to me indicates that they're lying um and like i said
00:43:19.700
the national institutes of health being engaged in the business of censorship when we know that big
00:43:26.180
pharma funds flow through that entity um you know ad infinitum right that that is really i would say
00:43:34.180
comprises the backbone of the nih the cdc um that's a very very concerning prospect and i frankly i think
00:43:42.820
in some ways obviously these hearings are unsettling but i also think that they sort of provide not a
00:43:48.340
sense of comfort but it sort of helps you better understand what exactly happened because when you
00:43:52.820
try to understand why the united states government would deliberately be engaging in the spread of
00:43:58.100
misinformation you have your answer it's because they were deliberately involved with frankly the
00:44:03.700
creation of covet 19 and at some point we have another clip that gets even really more into the
00:44:09.860
weeds um more into the details about the extent to to which the cover-up featuring uh representative
00:44:16.660
comer who's been doing a wonderful job um on all of these hearings not just this one
00:44:22.500
let me let me hang on because i want to i gotta get to the matt bull mccarthy thing and i want to hold
00:44:26.100
some of this for tomorrow but just real quick give me a minute or two given your expertise in this
00:44:30.980
because it's very easy for these investigations to get off track and something like that what given
00:44:36.260
this explosive testimony and wanting to make sure you can drive this home what would be your
00:44:40.020
recommendation to mtg in in this in this covet to get to the bottom of it what would be natalie winner's
00:44:47.700
recommendation today of where do you take this for the next hearing well i am from los angeles so i do
00:44:54.660
like drama and because of that i think that they should have a hearing with fauci and with redfield
00:45:01.060
because the two of them the stories that they're telling they're not they cannot both be true right
00:45:06.260
they're mutually exclusive in terms of their accuracy um and i think the two of them in the
00:45:11.380
same room um would be absolutely wonderful because i think we'd be able to actually get to the bottom
00:45:17.300
not just of the origins of covet and why exactly they obscured what they were obscuring but the cover-up
00:45:23.220
aspect too because i think it goes back to what i said in the beginning you since the chinese communist
00:45:28.180
party and i probably the nih too has destroyed so much of the biological and and virological evidence of
00:45:35.140
coven 19 i think we're unfortunately left in a position where you have to kind of piece together
00:45:39.860
the crime through the cover-up right it's like reverse engineering um so that's that's what i
00:45:45.540
would recommend and i think we really need you know to understand how intense that hearing is
00:45:52.180
because it proves either dr redfield perjured himself or anthony fauci did um and i think that that
00:45:58.660
leaves us in a very very good position because i would take the words of dr redfield who has
00:46:04.100
significantly less conflicts of interest and you know buried bodies to hide than anthony fauci does
00:46:09.700
um so i think that this hearing leaves us in a very very solid position
00:46:15.700
okay we're gonna drill down this on other tapes things you have tomorrow uh tomorrow night both
00:46:19.700
in the five o'clock hour and the six o'clock hour natalie how do people get to you what are your
00:46:23.220
coordinates i am at natalieg winters on getter twitter instagram you can find me on facebook too and
00:46:30.020
always go to war room.org to catch up with the latest stories natalie thank you and i want to
00:46:36.340
i'll talk to you after this this this uh the victoria newland the ukrainian bio labs is a whole
00:46:41.380
different area that we got to drill down on so thank you very much man appreciate it thank you
00:46:47.620
our executive editor and the best investigative reporter in the nation's capital let me go um
00:46:53.060
one of the great reporters uh of our time matt boyle of breitbart uh matt is uh he had three pretty
00:47:00.020
good mentors andrew breitbart was his first tucker carlson at the daily caller is a second and i
00:47:05.380
take pride of being his third at breitbart when he came over there he was very early on singled out
00:47:10.500
by uh andrew breitbart as being someone that was just absolutely a stone cold killer this is an
00:47:15.140
exclusive interview that's up on breitbart uh that he did with uh speaker mccarthy let's let's go ahead
00:47:21.060
and hear it arguably the biggest story of the year so far and the the media who are all lined
00:47:26.340
up outside this room right now trying to get a question with you uh the establishment media are
00:47:30.340
freaking out about this your decision to release the january 6th surveillance tapes here from the
00:47:35.540
capitol to tucker carlson uh can you tell us why you made that decision what was the thinking behind
00:47:40.660
it what do you think it showed well this is all about transparency and it won't just be to tucker
00:47:45.380
like any news organization different people get to exclusives we watched during the january 6 cnn
00:47:52.020
would have exclusives all the time and nobody complained cnn actually got to be in the sarah
00:47:57.860
the statuary hall for a whole hour for their own show you've watched that january 6 would
00:48:04.820
release only certain tapes i think it's better for transparency that anyone can make their own
00:48:09.620
decision up and as we walk through these these are many more hours of tapes than the january 6 committee
00:48:14.660
told us it's not 14 000 it's 42 000 hours we want to make sure for security purposes
00:48:21.140
our certain exits aren't shown in others but you know the most interesting thing when i sat down
00:48:26.340
when i had the team talk to the capitol police about making sure they had no problems with the
00:48:32.180
exit is showing they said january 6 never asked them that they showed the exit of the vice president
00:48:37.300
they showed the exit from my office they literally had then speaker pelosi's daughter showing
00:48:44.100
the secure location that they take the leadership that's not supposed to be known to anybody and cnn
00:48:49.700
reported it and i don't remember the press ever getting upset with that so what we want to do is
00:48:53.940
make sure we have this out that everybody can see it as tucker carlson rolled out several of these tapes
00:48:59.780
he made a very compelling case that the january 6 committee lied to the american public uh the the
00:49:05.940
democrat-run committee which i know you've been very critical of what do you think do you think the
00:49:09.620
january 6 committee lied to the public do you think that these tapes show that well i think i
00:49:13.620
haven't been able to see all the tapes yet but the one thing i did know there were certain things
00:49:17.540
the january 6 committee did that i knew was purely political first not letting republicans on the
00:49:23.220
committee secondly they made accusations that we knew were not true that they said um one republican
00:49:28.740
congressman gave a tour well the tapes show he did not give a tour but you know what one of the democrats
00:49:34.180
on the january 6 committee did give a tour in the capitol the day before um we watched different
00:49:40.980
accusations they made that's why i think transparency answers all that that's not my job to sit back and
00:49:46.660
say whether they were right or wrong but my job is to be transparent and people can make their own
00:49:50.900
conclusion one of the really compelling tapes is shows the what they call the q anon shaman or whatever
00:49:58.580
right like the guy who's dressed up in some really funky garb walking through the capitol with
00:50:04.180
police officers taking them around to various doors and trying to even unlock a couple doors for
00:50:09.220
them and take them into the senate chamber um there there's there's all sorts of other stuff that maybe
00:50:14.820
contradicts some of the official narrative that's out there do you think that this may change the
00:50:21.220
outcomes of say several of these convictions of these people do you think that uh that maybe this
00:50:29.140
is exculpatory evidence for some of the people that are sure but anybody that's been held for
00:50:34.500
trial they should be able to have the ability to see the tapes they should be able to use the tapes i
00:50:40.660
don't know if he was able to use the tapes during that but i also believe in america you need equal
00:50:44.820
justice i've watched what transpired in america the burning of courthouses look i don't condone
00:50:51.540
anything that happened on january i don't like what happened on january 6th right um but i watched
00:50:57.300
the court let me jump in here there's much more of this uh and boyle's interview goes on that's over
00:51:02.820
at breitbart i think it's the lead story it's exclusive interview matt boyle's as uh well informed
00:51:07.940
a reporter as this town has an incredible interview with uh mccarthy and right there you're saying remember
00:51:13.940
the tucker carlson thing right now it's gonna be a hang fire we'll see tonight
00:51:17.140
what happens okay tomorrow morning at 10 we're going to start uh right now we're trying to schedule
00:51:23.380
senator vance is going to join us we're going to talk about east palestine a lot of going on there
00:51:27.700
today particularly with the testimony that cash patel is going to be with us we're going to be
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packed for both hours uh we appreciate we're going to have natalie on tomorrow night uh to go back
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through the gain of function the weaponization that is exploding all over the city matt gates is going
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to join us talk about not just the syria vote but where we go forward on ukraine the budget
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we're going to have some of the people from russ vote shop to go through the budget so we are
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don't chase the shiny toys so i want to thank everybody thank the team in memphis i'll see you
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