Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 279： Ray Epps, Tucker, And The Media Purge

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.800 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:18.800 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:24.700 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:29.460 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:33.720 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:40.780 your host stephen k bannon the case of a man called ray epps we know his name but they've never been

00:00:47.520 charged what's that about is this guy going to be charged we've got what seems like an actual

00:00:52.860 insurrectionist on tape but they don't want to talk about it and they definitely don't want you to talk

00:00:57.860 about it the question is did ray epps work or have any contact with any government agency did he talk

00:01:04.600 about january 6 before it happened with any employee of the u.s government we don't know

00:01:11.360 the mysterious figure called ray epps encouraged the crowd to go into the capitol for some reason

00:01:17.160 epps has never been indicted for that an actual insurrectionist at a day that quote wasn't an

00:01:23.840 insurrection at all which one was it it's just another example a very frequently cited one of

00:01:30.500 how tucker carlson took wild conspiracies running rampant on far right-wing websites and then

00:01:36.340 dangerously platformed them amplified them and repeated them over and over and over again without

00:01:41.080 any evidence that they were true for his own benefit carlson along with members of congress and

00:01:47.380 the twice impeached now indicted ex-president himself were so desperate for january 6 alternate

00:01:53.760 reality scapegoat did they turn out one of their own promoting the theory that ray epps now do you who

00:02:00.800 he really is he's a former oath keepers member a two-time trump voter and a january 6 rally goer

00:02:06.040 who acknowledged that he helped quote orchestrate the crowd's movements accused him of working with

00:02:11.600 the fbi as an informant who was there to incite the mob for its part the fbi confirms to 60 minutes

00:02:18.960 who had epps on last night with the january 6 committee found more than a year ago that quote

00:02:23.840 ray epps has never been an fbi source or an fbi employee epps too is speaking out telling 60 minutes

00:02:31.760 he doesn't understand how he was cast as the villain and here's what he thinks of tucker carlson

00:02:36.840 he's obsessed with me he's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives why

00:02:45.740 to shift blame on somebody else one concern i do have nicole and i bet the senator shares the same

00:02:55.160 concern who gets the january 6 tapes now tucker carlson possesses those kevin mccarthy put those in tucker

00:03:04.980 carlson's hands there were probably some constraints i hope uh by fox especially post

00:03:10.760 dominion suit being brought but if you have a disgruntled employee you know walking around with

00:03:16.640 40 000 hours of security footage i really do worry what could happen with them and i hope kevin mccarthy

00:03:21.520 will ask tucker carlson for those tapes back okay welcome it is um monday 24 april in the year of

00:03:32.040 2023 we've got a darren beady obviously the massive breaking news today was about tucker

00:03:38.320 carlson also don lemon susan rice but tucker carlson and it's very unclear uncertain how what

00:03:45.280 even happened here and i think a lot of people were talking we've actually pretty dialed in and

00:03:51.420 everything we're hearing is extremely disturbing i want to get uh darren beady from revolver darren

00:03:57.700 it's interesting i watched and we've got some clips from it i watched 60 minutes last night

00:04:02.460 because i thought hey you know war room's done a lot of episodes on this tucker's done a lot of

00:04:08.760 episodes on this but it all comes around kind of your reporting and revolvers reporting and i must

00:04:15.260 have heard your name i don't know 20 times on the in 22 minutes but no darren beady so first let's deal

00:04:23.760 with the tucker aspect first and the murdochs and and quite frankly showing no respect for tucker

00:04:28.960 carlson who's done an incredible job no respect for maga uh because tucker's got a big populist he's a

00:04:36.080 pop he's got a big populist audience clearly the murderers are trying to send some signal here

00:04:40.640 let's deal with tucker first and then i've got to get into and i'm not saying this is a triggering event

00:04:45.640 but clearly somehow i had to get into the mix about this episode last night on 60 minutes

00:04:50.360 and the lack of of darren beady and anybody from revolver actually laying out the facts so darren

00:04:57.200 let's talk first with tucker what you know what your sense is of what happened uh what happened today

00:05:03.980 absolutely well as to the tucker thing i don't have any more visibility or insight in anyone else

00:05:11.880 all i can say is the obvious fact is that tucker was one of a kind on mainstream cable news television

00:05:19.600 he was not just unique with respect to other so-called conservatives hosts he was unique

00:05:26.900 with respect to the entire mainstream american media their occasion after occasion in which

00:05:32.900 he was the lone voice of dissent presenting an alternative view against an absolute lockstep

00:05:41.740 consensus throughout the entirety of the rest of the media including on fox news there are guests

00:05:48.160 including myself frankly that could only have a chance of appearing on mainstream television

00:05:55.380 on tucker's show because of this difference that tucker made his different approach and his bravery

00:06:02.960 and his willingness to cover things that nobody else would and you mentioned you know revolver news

00:06:09.760 basically changed the entire national conversation on january 6th we couldn't have done it without of

00:06:16.780 course you guys at the war room amplifying it to the base that's you know huge number one and also

00:06:24.620 tucker amplifying out to the broader nation you know there are people who are not your war room is kind of

00:06:31.260 for the the really engaged people the people know what's going on the people understand politics for fox news

00:06:36.920 there are a lot of people who they're not really into politics but they just habitually turn on the television

00:06:42.880 at prime time and if you know if tucker's not there to give them a different view they're never going to

00:06:48.420 hear about it and that was crucial in terms of elevating the truth about january 6 to the nation at large and

00:06:59.800 as i think you've seen as an expert in media you know when you've touched a nerve and i think it's fair to say

00:07:09.040 that those who dare to criticize the official narrative of the january 6 feds erection

00:07:14.580 that touched a nerve like pretty much nothing else in recent history at least since uh trump came into

00:07:22.760 office the regime was furious that revolvers reporting and amplification led to really the

00:07:30.200 delegitimization of the mainstream narrative about what january 6 was and of course ray epps being one of the

00:07:37.700 two smoking guns of the feds erection they needed to basically close ranks around epps the only

00:07:43.860 problem is the epps case is so weak on their part it's just such a weak leg to stand on in every

00:07:51.300 instance of the mainstream media coming to the defense the unlikely defense of this former oath

00:07:58.240 keeper who was caught on camera and camouflage in a trump hat you know directing people to the capitol

00:08:04.180 caught on camera on january 5th telling people to go into the capitol and so forth now has all of

00:08:10.480 these unlikely defenders in the new york times in adam kinsinger and now in the stale and kind of

00:08:18.360 desiccated arm of the national security state sort of janitor media in 60 minutes it just doesn't sit

00:08:26.820 right and that's the thing when you're when you're open you played a segment of some some woman on msnbc and

00:08:33.560 it's just amazing the low iq that you see on intelligence that that they low iqs that these

00:08:41.420 segments cater to because this woman in her own admission says oh ray epps was a quote-unquote trump

00:08:48.800 supporter he was an oath keeper this and that and it doesn't even occur to her to ask well

00:08:53.060 why is david brock's guy former perkins coy lawyer representing epps now why is the new york times

00:09:05.400 doing puff pieces on ash why is 60 minutes bending over backwards to portray epps in a sympathetic

00:09:10.860 light the basic question doesn't even occur to her so it's it's just really amazing to see the low iq

00:09:19.500 that so many of these cable news segments cater to including 60 minutes and including especially

00:09:26.840 the segment that they did on epps last night which i'm very eager to talk about

00:09:31.360 yeah we're going to get to that one second i do want to you know if you look at the early days after

00:09:35.600 january 6 you had to me three you had rahim kasam over at the national pulse you had julie kelly

00:09:41.680 at american greatness and you had darren beattie at uh at revolver and i just want to make sure the

00:09:48.320 audience i would like you to address this again the courage of uh tucker's producers and tucker

00:09:55.380 to put you on on some of your analysis in particular on epps but other things on january 6 number one i

00:10:02.300 think is what got mccarthy to come to him with the footage and say hey i think you may be the best guy

00:10:07.680 to go through this you've got the resources you have the team uh and you have clearly understand the

00:10:11.980 the issues but talk about the courage it took of a tucker carlson to put to put you up particularly

00:10:18.800 in the early days of this when you know they turned on him viciously i and i think the audience

00:10:24.260 has to understand tucker's taken some very principled and very tough stances that are definitely against

00:10:30.160 where the murdochs wanted uh fox to go uh darren beattie absolutely it's a tremendous amount of

00:10:36.920 courage and that's why you know tucker was kind of an anomaly he was um a glitch in the system

00:10:42.940 somebody like tucker is not supposed to be exist on primetime television in the globalist american

00:10:51.360 empire that's not supposed to happen so i suppose it was only a matter of time uh before he gets

00:10:57.940 removed but as much as tucker wasn't supposed to happen darren beattie and revolver news are not

00:11:05.500 supposed to be on mainstream television in the globalist american empire you're not supposed to

00:11:11.160 hear stuff that real that subversive that contrary to the agenda promoted by the national security state

00:11:20.680 it's just not supposed to happen it was only this alignment of events this fluke that this brave guy

00:11:28.900 tucker carlson had to happen to be there at the right time and happened to have the courage to

00:11:35.140 platform and to amplify our reporting that the entire national narrative about january 6 changed

00:11:42.040 it was kind of a fluke it wasn't supposed to happen it's kind of stuff doesn't usually happen

00:11:48.020 and just like trump wasn't supposed to happen it's the same principle

00:11:53.160 these things are not supposed to happen and when they do happen the regime absolutely freaks out

00:12:00.060 and they will go to any length imaginable to put the toothpaste back in the tube

00:12:06.300 give me your assessment first of the ray up story as presented last night by 60 minutes then i'm gonna

00:12:13.460 play some clips for your specific commentary but give me your overall opinion of the of the of

00:12:19.600 their work product last night sir well substantively it was incredibly weak although in order to be

00:12:26.700 somewhat charitable i have to say that it's not as much of a disgrace as the new york times puff piece

00:12:32.340 but it's pretty close uh substantively it's it's kind of a joke they don't ask any of the basic

00:12:38.000 questions that you would expect them to ask they don't ask where did you get this idea epps to go into

00:12:44.120 the capitol and why were you so persistent about it they don't press them on that they don't press

00:12:49.280 them on the question of were you directed by any government agency why for that matter don't you think

00:12:56.020 when these other individuals were arrested for trespassing why don't you think you were arrested

00:13:01.980 given that on paper as a former head of the oath keepers arizona chapter as a guy with a trump hat in

00:13:10.180 camo as a guy telling people to go into the capitol on paper you're exactly the kind of person that they

00:13:17.220 would want to make an example of how have you been able to elude prosecution whereas all these other

00:13:23.960 people are rotting in prison for similar behavior how is that possible why is it that you're the only

00:13:31.200 january 6 participant about whom adam kinstinger will display sympathy about whom the new york times

00:13:39.660 will write a puff piece there are no probing questions of this sort whatsoever it's a journalistic

00:13:45.540 disgrace um from the meta context as you mentioned revolver news is ubiquitous throughout the

00:13:53.440 whole segment they mention it multiple times we are the quote-unquote conspiracy people that have

00:13:59.720 put poor ray epps in this beleaguered position revolver news and tucker carlson and yet they give

00:14:07.260 they they give ray epps a chance to speak his piece they don't give revolver a chance to respond which is

00:14:15.220 amazing because one of their producers and i don't want to mention his name because he's just a bag carry a lot

00:14:20.760 of these guys are just a bag carrier they're just happy to be there you know their family probably

00:14:25.760 says hey you know we never thought you know bob or whatever would amount to anything but he's carrying

00:14:31.400 a bag he's carrying a suitcase for the guy at 60 minutes how big of a deal is that and his family

00:14:36.920 probably brags about it so he's just a bag carrier i'm not going to get into his issue but they made it

00:14:42.860 like oh you know darren we're doing a segment on epps and we'd like to we'd like to interview you about it

00:14:48.420 and we got right up to the end and they kind of canceled mysteriously at the last minute

00:14:52.940 and steve again you're you're an expert in media you know all of the tricks that an organization like

00:14:59.960 60 minutes has at its disposal to make me look bad this isn't live tv they can splice they can dice

00:15:07.400 they can b-roll they can contextualize and if i happen to say anything extremely persuasive they can

00:15:14.740 simply leave that out of the segment and yet with all of those tools at their disposal they still

00:15:21.720 thought it was too dangerous to have me on because probably the case on ray epps is that damning that

00:15:29.800 they wouldn't want to hear me even with all of their advantages so even though the whole segment is

00:15:35.860 about saying how bad revolver is and big conspiracies on epps and so forth even though they interview epps

00:15:42.180 and portray him in his sympathetic light and to add insult to injury they get this overweight guy

00:15:48.680 with crooked teeth they pluck him out of some fourth-rate neocon think tank a guy who apparently

00:15:55.100 does like contracting work for the fbi they trot this fat guy out to look into the camera and say

00:16:03.260 you know what all this stuff about ray epps is unsubstantiated give me a break what crackerjack box

00:16:10.280 did this guy get his so-called degree from it's so insulting it's one thing to be quote unquote

00:16:16.920 debunked by people who are at least like you know high representatives of the regime but when they dig

00:16:24.840 into the bottom of a barrel and get some third-rate guy from a think tank with crooked teeth to look in

00:16:30.960 the camera and say without any kind of evidence any kind of argumentation that oh there's nothing to

00:16:37.400 this ray epps thing it just shows what a sloppy job that they do and you know what's even sadder

00:16:43.400 they don't even need to do a better job than that because most of the people watching this 0.96

00:16:48.400 um are are kind of that dumb the propaganda doesn't even need to be that good anymore we know what a 0.98

00:16:54.760 joke it is but unfortunately i think a lot of people watching are just on zombie mode and they don't 0.99

00:16:59.760 know any better that's what i think it's i'm so proud of the war room audience because they're so up

00:17:05.120 not just on the material but they want more they want more details they want more granularity always

00:17:10.400 say show the receipts and you've done such a great job on the f story what what shocked me about just

00:17:16.080 the way it was produced they continue to talk about revolver and they kind of go and all after tucker

00:17:22.800 but all tucker tucker is contextualizing but essentially his reporting is based upon and predicated upon

00:17:29.120 you so if you don't get darren beattie on there and have 60 minutes like they like a mike wallace

00:17:34.640 interview sit there and humiliate their purpose must be humiliate darren beattie to show before the

00:17:41.920 nation that he's a liar and a con artist they bring up some guy that has no purpose in the story 0.80

00:17:47.920 whatsoever they kind of reaffirm it but it's not they should have you let's go ahead yeah go ahead

00:17:53.440 that's really when you think about it it's really quite a compliment from from their side because

00:17:58.080 they're saying that it's not only a compliment to me but more so it's a task tacit concession that the

00:18:05.920 um arguments presented in revolvers reporting are pretty much um overwhelmingly compelling

00:18:14.800 otherwise like i said with all of the tools at their disposal with the home court advantage that they

00:18:20.720 have being able to splice and dice and edit and everything even then they thought it was too

00:18:26.960 dangerous to have me on when they have some random other guy some third rate fourth rate guy from a 0.98

00:18:34.000 trash think tank from a trash neocon think tank to just look in the camera with his fat cheeks and say 0.98

00:18:41.120 that there's nothing to the ray epps story if they're gonna pluck that guy out of the trash can 0.99

00:18:47.040 you think at least they would ask you know have me be able to speak and defend the reporting that

00:18:53.840 makes up the substance of their entire segment you know that it's not easily refutable because

00:19:00.400 those but there's look 60 minutes got a huge staff it's enormously profitable they're they're total pros

00:19:06.720 when it comes to this if they thought they could easily refute it and humiliate you trust me you would

00:19:11.920 have been front and center it's the greatest compliment of revolvers reporting is that they

00:19:16.800 didn't want you on okay let's go ahead and play memphis we've got time for a couple of clips what i

00:19:21.840 i think we're going to do darren and maybe we set it up for one night this week i want to play the whole

00:19:26.400 segment one night on getter and have a live we got to do that that would be so fun get a couple

00:19:32.320 hundred thousand war room people to watch it would be so fun have grace and and jane zirkle the savage 0.98

00:19:38.640 changers than myself when we interview you you give commentary during it and then we'll talk

00:19:43.040 before and after we'll figure it out so but memphis we got a couple of clips let's play some clips and

00:19:47.040 i want darren uh commentary if ray abs was a covert plant he is the worst covert plant of all time

00:19:54.960 if you are part of some elaborate conspiracy against thousands of people in washington dc i don't know why

00:20:02.160 you'd want to stand out from the crowd the way ray abs did tom jocelyn is a researcher and author

00:20:07.280 one of the country's top terrorism experts tapped by the january 6 committee to help write its final

00:20:13.840 report which found evidence far-right extremists like the proud boys planned and executed the breach

00:20:20.480 of the capitol he says the committee interviewed epps and found he wasn't important enough to put in the

00:20:27.520 report i wouldn't defend ray epps or anybody else who was on the capitol grounds that day i would just

00:20:32.240 defend the facts so the idea that he's leading the charge or really orchestrating it is just

00:20:38.480 contradicted by this mountain range of evidence and that's what the conspiracy theorists want you to

00:20:43.760 want you to do right they don't want you to look at this mountain range of evidence they want you to

00:20:47.200 turn around and focus on this pebble on the ground named ray epps they also don't want you to look at

00:20:51.600 what president trump was saying and doing he calls epps behavior baffling but not evidence of a conspiracy

00:20:59.840 they've got to come up with some sort of connective tissue between ray epps and the fbi and they've

00:21:03.760 got none and so they can make up all sorts of ad hoc arguments to justify their beliefs but that's

00:21:09.840 all they are it's not actual investigative work it's not actual evidence the january 6 committee

00:21:15.200 looked at the evidence video phone records travel receipts so did the fbi

00:21:21.120 this is okay darren beady i'll let you that's a tee up for a softball uh so go yard on that

00:21:32.000 i mean i mean this is what can i say this is the guy that i was talking about they they get the guy

00:21:37.680 with the crooked teeth and an empty head to give a completely substance-free quote-unquote argument uh

00:21:46.160 uh refer you're refuting the stuff about a ray apps i mean it's first of all the focus on the fbi

00:21:52.320 is ridiculous because i've never maintained that ray epps works for the fbi my personal belief is that

00:21:58.400 he does not work for the fbi and in fact i've said in other contexts in other interviews and such that

00:22:05.280 you know ray epps his first lawyer before he got the democrat hatchet man who works for david brock

00:22:10.400 his previous lawyer was a nine-year veteran of the phoenix field office of the fbi and that lawyer

00:22:16.720 went on this kind of publicity tour emphatically and explicitly denying epps's involvement with any

00:22:22.720 law enforcement agency and i noticed why is this guy clinging for dear life onto the phrase law

00:22:28.800 enforcement agency well you know if epps is not involved with the law enforcement agency that leaves

00:22:34.800 open a lot of possibilities he could be military intelligence he could be dhs he could work for a

00:22:42.480 cutout organization you know operating at the behest of those are there are a lot of possibilities

00:22:48.720 that could still be consistent with the idea that he was an inauthentic actor on that day but to for

00:22:55.360 this guy to act like oh we need some kind of employment card of epps for the fbi in order to justify

00:23:02.320 asking the questions we do about epps namely why is this guy who seems to be the poster boy

00:23:09.040 for exactly the kind of person the doj would want to make an example of managed to get away scot-free

00:23:16.320 when all of these other people are rotting in prison when they could have charged him with trespassing

00:23:21.920 like they have with a bunch of other people his behavior was sufficiently egregious that he was one of

00:23:27.120 the first 20 people the fbi put on their most wanted list the new york times before it started

00:23:33.440 writing puff pieces on on him featured him in their ominously titled day of rage piece on january 6th

00:23:41.200 so it's not like he was an unknown quantity and i've never said that he's eps is ironically the

00:23:47.680 person who said that he orchestrated it he texted his nephew saying i orchestrated it referring to january

00:23:54.000 six i didn't say he orchestrated it tucker carlson didn't say he orchestrated it we're simply pointing

00:24:00.000 to the bizarre set of facts and the bizarre protection that this individual seems to enjoy

00:24:06.240 from the doj and from the mainstream media including the new york times in 60 minutes

00:24:11.920 and adam kinsinger and others why of all of the january 6th participants is this the guy who gets the

00:24:19.200 sympathy treatment it simply doesn't add up and it's absolutely an embarrassment and an insult

00:24:26.320 for them to trot out this third tier low status think tank hack with chubby cheeks and crooked 0.99

00:24:34.000 teeth to look in the camera and give a non-argument about ray epps it's it's just it's the worst

00:24:41.440 journalistic mop-up job i've ever seen second only to the new york times job which as i mentioned was even

00:24:47.920 worse let's go ahead and play the mash we've got a mashup of ray epps to take us to commercial break

00:24:52.160 i think it's gonna be longer in two minutes let's go ahead and play it the audience can see it and

00:24:55.440 then we'll bring darren beady back on the other side let's go and let it rip we need to go into the

00:25:00.720 capital into the capital

00:25:12.720 tomorrow i don't even like to say it because i'll be arrested well let's not say we need

00:25:18.000 we need to go i'll say it all right we need to go in shut the up boomer to the capital 0.93

00:25:23.920 based fed posting we need to go into the capitol i didn't see that coming okay

00:25:43.040 all right noted but one more thing yeah so can we go up there no when we go in are we going to get

00:25:47.760 arrested if we go out there yeah we don't need to get shot you arrest us all

00:26:01.760 uh

00:26:25.920 look at him jogging up there my lying eyes

00:26:28.960 it's absurd we don't include i'm we're going to have the uh hoffs i'm trying to get jim

00:26:32.960 and joe on tomorrow they've got other footage of showing him breaking the law darren beady absolutely

00:26:38.960 ridiculous that this guy many other people broke on charges he was not just hang on darren

00:26:43.920 we're gonna take a short commercial break darren b we got some other cuts

00:26:47.600 from the whitewash of uh 60 minutes darren b is going to be here short commercial break todd benson also

00:26:53.600 join us be back in a moment

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00:31:31.920 what do you think when you see this now brings back some bad memories it's hard to see our capital

00:31:41.840 under attack it's been more than two years since the storming of the capital but ray and his wife

00:31:47.360 robin told us they relive january 6th every day of their lives some people have said well just let it

00:31:55.360 go and let it die down it does what they don't understand is it doesn't what exactly was the role

00:32:01.200 of ray epps in the chaos of january 6th the theory epps a former member of the oath keepers was an fbi

00:32:08.880 informant who incited the crowd on january 6th bubbled up from a right-wing news site called revolver

00:32:15.920 news run by a former trump speechwriter he's the smoking gun of the entire feds erection and landed on

00:32:22.960 fox news primetime according to a new investigation from revolver epps may have led the breach team that

00:32:30.240 first entered the capitol on january 6th the convoluted conspiracy theory made its way to capitol hill

00:32:37.440 it's not the proud boys who engage in the initial breach it's ray epps at that precise moment how did

00:32:43.920 ray epps know that there were going to be pipe bombs miss sadburn who is ray epps that question

00:32:49.920 has animated fox news host tucker carlson for nearly two years ray epps he's on video several times

00:32:58.160 encouraging crimes riots breaches of the capitol carlson has focused on epps more than 20 times

00:33:04.000 on his top rated show a half dozen times so far this year he's obsessed with me he's going to any

00:33:12.000 means possible to destroy my life and our lives why to shift blame on somebody else if you look at it fox

00:33:21.920 news marjorie taylor green ted cruz gates they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen

00:33:31.440 so you tell me who has more impact on people them or me epps once a loyal fox news watcher told us he

00:33:40.400 doesn't understand how he got cast as the villain the epps version is more mundane they believed the 2020

00:33:48.640 election had been stolen from donald trump and considered january 6th a legitimate protest it was

00:33:56.400 he's sitting right there beat he come in here he's sitting there he says he didn't do anything he's

00:34:01.680 sitting there we got all the we got all the video you see him right there telling people the night

00:34:06.560 before telling people that day sitting there's a traffic cop right there on constitution avenue 60

00:34:11.840 minutes didn't play any of that not one second of the mashup we just played what are they afraid of

00:34:17.440 ray epps is guilty as hell i don't care about ray epps with the big long face crying with the wife 0.94

00:34:23.040 you know i i ray epps instigated and he led the breach team you see right there the bicycle rack on

00:34:29.600 that side of the capital he's the first guy in there and you've got somebody taking out with the videotape

00:34:34.800 of him up there with the lead four or five guys how could that not be how could 60 minutes just look

00:34:40.080 away from that and how could they sit there right big long hang dog look i don't know why they're

00:34:45.280 picking on me it's ted cruz screw you dude you're in this and you're associated with 0.86

00:34:52.720 some government agency full stop darren beady and to see that compilation that you showed of epps's

00:35:01.760 behavior on the fifth and the sixth and then ask yourself of all of the people if there could be

00:35:08.240 one january 6th participant who was given extraordinarily unbelievable um leniency by

00:35:18.880 the department of justice if there's one january 6th participant who would get a fully dedicated

00:35:24.960 puff piece by the new york times who would get a sympathetic portrayal in 60 minutes would be the

00:35:30.080 only january 6th participant about whom adam kinsinger would have sympathy and have nice things to say

00:35:37.520 of all the people ray epps the guy depicted doing all of that stuff that we see who happens again to be

00:35:45.920 the former head of the arizona chapter of the oath keepers the most demonized and prosecuted militia

00:35:52.640 group associated with january 6th as i keep saying on paper he's exactly the sort of person exactly the

00:36:00.880 sort of quote-unquote insurrectionist that all of the usual suspects would be desperate to make an example

00:36:09.360 of he would be perfect and yet quite the contrary they're bending over backwards and making themselves

00:36:15.760 look ridiculous to defend this guy why doesn't make any sense or put another way it does not easily lend

00:36:25.440 itself to any innocent explanation other than the obvious is that he doesn't seem to have been 0.68

00:36:34.400 an authentic actor in january 6th he gives every indication of someone working on behalf of some other

00:36:41.040 party some other agency for whatever reason and i think we all know what the most likely context is

00:36:48.800 for that um one last thing before i let you go we want to have you back on the day so we're going to

00:36:54.000 set up to do with with the war room posse a live stream of this we did it on artificial intelligence

00:36:59.920 last week it was i mean we had a massive crowd um do you believe given that you've done so much

00:37:06.320 original research in this that the essentially they said today they fired tucker the firing of

00:37:10.960 tucker carlson will put a chill on the rest of the murdoch empire including the fox live streaming service

00:37:18.880 to really drill down on anything related to the reality of january 6th and if they decide to back off

00:37:27.360 what should happen to the you know the the 42 000 hours of of videotape that we've only seen

00:37:34.560 very much of and it was obvious they shut tucker down on the second and third night of that expose

00:37:40.480 so give us your thoughts on that before we before we bounce well i think it is an extremely bad omen

00:37:48.320 for fox it pretends very bad things i think again tucker was a fluke he was a glitch in the system

00:37:55.680 just like trump was a glitch in the system something like trump something like tucker it's not supposed to

00:38:01.360 happen they're closing ranks they're trying to move beyond i have every expectation that they're

00:38:07.440 going to try to make fox a glorified version of the five so just kind of happy yuck yuck sort of

00:38:17.120 entertainment with you know the smiling frat boys and you know the cocktail waitresses and that sort of

00:38:22.720 thing and they're never going to cover anything serious and certainly nothing serious that's actually

00:38:28.080 grave and subversive and that contradicts an important narrative that the regime is trying to

00:38:34.160 push those days are over tucker was a fluke that chapter's over um and we're just one step closer to

00:38:42.720 the full gulag system of the globalist american empire darren how can people uh get to revolver how

00:38:51.760 they get to you on social media because obviously now more than ever we need all the great analysis

00:38:58.080 commentary uh on revolver and by the way after your saturday hit my phone blew up they love that

00:39:04.960 piece on the janissaries that's awesome no no people loved it they didn't like they loved it so how do

00:39:11.280 people revolve how do they read the janissaries piece where they go for all of it and you're only

00:39:16.320 going to see that now on revolver news and war room you're not going to see that on fox anymore so i just

00:39:21.600 say if you have a fox nation subscription just cancel it and subscribe to revolver you can go to

00:39:27.760 revolver news you can see me on twitter at darren j beady we're on getter at revolver news and i very

00:39:34.640 much look forward we should do the getter thing just go through the whole 60 minutes line by line and

00:39:40.640 just rip the guts out we will definitely do it um darren beady honored to have you on here great reporting

00:39:47.520 uh great segment last time 60 minutes they're too gutless to go after you so look forward to having

00:39:51.680 back on brother thank you okay uh you know the economist the editor of the economist i've got

00:39:58.480 it up on on getter we'll try to play tomorrow said that you know including the mainstream media the

00:40:03.440 most important news source out there for maga and for the trump movement was war room and we're

00:40:08.320 very proud of this one of the reasons is that and if the if the guys in memphis can get my beloved

00:40:13.600 new york times right here um okay the new york times anyway the front page of the new york times

00:40:18.880 maybe i can get that maybe i can't okay do i have it front page of the new york times has got a major

00:40:24.720 story about biden is opening legal pathways for immigration backdoor measures in humanitarian policy

00:40:33.920 critics see usurping of congress role let's get in todd bensman todd correct me if i'm wrong brother

00:40:41.760 you came on the war room i don't know four months ago five months ago and laid out this entire thing

00:40:49.360 on humanitarian policy it's the front page lead story in the new york times they like it's a huge

00:40:55.920 reveal and this is like a massive scoop that uh you know our betters have to uh you know have to read

00:41:04.640 tell us about humanitarian policy a story that you broke here on war room i think i don't know it was in

00:41:11.520 october november november of last year november tell us about it well it's i guess it's like they

00:41:18.640 say uh if the new york times didn't write about it it never happened or it didn't happen until they

00:41:25.200 finally write about it and i've been telling you for months and months it's been common knowledge i

00:41:30.560 must have been on this program you know 20 times talking about the pre-legalization program that the

00:41:37.920 biden administration has moved to to grant humanitarian permission to enter the country

00:41:44.480 while they're still south in mexico and then sneak them over the ports of entry so nobody can see how

00:41:51.840 many are coming and not count them as illegals uh entering over the border through the brush right

00:41:58.960 make it look better it's all about optics so uh the new york times has never reported any of this

00:42:05.200 and neither have the other major newspapers at all even though is a major shift in immigration policy

00:42:12.480 uh until today all of a sudden today they're like wow look there's this new immigration humanitarian

00:42:18.880 parole thing that they're handing out all this humanitarian parole on the front page of the

00:42:23.440 paper anyway very funny for those of us who have been uh deeply yeah let's let's not lose the context

00:42:31.040 here here's why this policy even exists and it's the cover of your magnificent book

00:42:38.160 your magnificent book has the haitians at the international bridge i think at del rio across

00:42:45.440 the rear ground that caused a firestorm that even susan rice and the other radicals inside the white 1.00

00:42:52.960 house could not tamp down that's why i said your books probably got one of the most powerful covers on

00:42:58.800 there because that magnificent black and white photograph of of all that um the they understand

00:43:06.240 they can't have that optic anymore they have to get away from having two bigs of crowds at the uh at

00:43:14.240 at the border so what they did and this is why they should be impeached they subverted and this is

00:43:20.080 why they're going to destroy it for people in china for people in these countries that are oppressed by

00:43:25.840 dictatorships they are going they've gone and hardwired and worked around our asylum laws to 0.99

00:43:33.120 come up with something that's totally phony that can do it in the dark of night deep in mexico and

00:43:38.080 then fly the people and not have to drop them off in el paso where there's too many reporters and now that

00:43:43.760 todd benson's down there everybody's down there but they can fly them in to the heartland of the nation

00:43:49.440 and do what they want to do take this invasion into our heartland that's essentially what and

00:43:54.800 this is why is is todd benson's told us one thing over the last couple years which is absolutely

00:43:59.920 brilliant he says don't buy the fact that it's chaotic don't buy the fact that it's anarchy this

00:44:05.840 is incredibly well thought through of what they're trying to do and every now and again you get a glitch

00:44:09.760 like the haitians but they'll get a workaround and that's why it's so phony for the new york times

00:44:15.920 a day they clearly knew this was going on to finally you know put it on and not just buried

00:44:21.280 by the tire ads on page 13 to put it upper right lead story where they send a signal this is something

00:44:28.480 important and by the way the sub-headline is it may usurp congress's power right and that's why you

00:44:34.320 see all these congressmen now having hearings on it is that basically contextualize what your great

00:44:39.280 reporting showed us todd benson and it's what i've been saying all along is that that this program

00:44:46.640 thought it goes it's outside of congressional authority and there's a huge lawsuit by 20 states

00:44:53.440 which is the purpose i believe of the story i believe that story is a plant

00:44:59.200 and let me explain why i think that story is a plant when you read it all the way through

00:45:04.160 uh first of all the the authority of humanitarian parole uh it's a very short paragraph it's very clear

00:45:11.280 what that is for uh you can the executive can grant a humanitarian permit to enter the united states

00:45:19.920 if it serves a public interest okay well the bulk of this story after they report that there's that that

00:45:28.400 it's happening is that it serves a public interest while this huge litigation is going on with 20 states

00:45:37.680 claiming that their use of this humanitarian authority is illegal

00:45:41.120 uh and so the new york times has just provided the lawyers the defense lawyers for the administration

00:45:48.960 with their public interest which is all these people are going to work oh my god

00:45:54.080 uh like all these ukrainians are working in the petroleum industry uh where there's a worker

00:46:00.080 shortage and we have to have petroleum workers uh and then you can you can always tell what the point

00:46:06.320 of a of a news story is by the final quote of the story uh which in this case is something on uh to the effect

00:46:14.320 of you know thank god for the humanitarian parole program uh they're giving us workers so

00:46:20.800 i think that there's a that that story was planted in there they didn't wait for six months to suddenly

00:46:26.480 put this in now uh as this massive litigation is as moving through which could very well just cut

00:46:34.320 the legs right out from under it i got a couple of minutes here give me uh title 42 give us an update on

00:46:40.640 all that title 42 uh that's the cattle prod used to push people into the humanitarian parole line

00:46:48.240 it goes away and the new cattle prod is going to be something called title eight there's no electricity

00:46:55.040 in it there's no batteries in it it doesn't mean anything it looks like a cattle prod but it doesn't act like

00:47:00.800 one uh loopholes galore i believe that we are going to see uh huge numbers uh return like uh what we i hope

00:47:10.560 i'm wrong like what they don't want us to see which are backlogs of people on the riverbank

00:47:16.240 people sleeping in the streets of el paso people wandering around un unprocessed and that sort of

00:47:23.200 thing i think we're kind of heading for something like that title eight the way that they've got it

00:47:29.040 written is filled with loopholes unaccompanied minors will not be impacted they will not be affected

00:47:36.240 they can walk right in and get processed just like always uh family units with small kids walking right in

00:47:43.840 uh under the flores settlement loophole google that flores settlement loophole and you'll see

00:47:50.640 exactly what i mean the rules are saying we are going to respect the flores settlement uh that's a

00:47:57.680 huge red flag we are going to respect the flores settlement and everybody else can just say i'm

00:48:03.200 afraid that i'm going to get kidnapped in mexico and you're in too it's a total scam todd how they get

00:48:09.600 your social media how they get the book with the magnificent cover how do we get all your latest

00:48:14.080 reporting sure well the book is overrun how joe biden unleashed the greatest border crisis in u.s

00:48:21.760 history it's the only book out there on this subject and you can follow me uh on bensman todd at twitter

00:48:30.240 t bensman at getter and i'm on truth social too bensman t bensman at truth social

00:48:36.400 your thing's amazing six months later the new york times finally catches up with you but

00:48:40.800 we'll have you back on it's definitely a plant they definitely and they talk about

00:48:44.320 we need the skill set it's it's the the story and the times is obscene todd bensman there's

00:48:49.680 the public interest right here we have a public interest unbelievable unbelievable todd bensman your

00:48:56.240 reporting has been amazing uh you're a true warrior thank you for coming to war room thank you

00:49:01.200 this is why i love doing the show i mean the people we get up are just the best and the stories

00:49:06.880 they break are the best and the information they get you months and months and months in advance

00:49:11.600 we'll play tomorrow the economist clip i don't have time for it now but i want to bring in crom

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Bannon's War Room - April 24, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 279： Ray Epps, Tucker, And The Media Purge

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