Episode 2686： The Elite Silence The Populist Voice
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Summary
In this episode, Stephen K. K. Lee and I discuss the role of mega-media and the Murdochs in the Trump administration, and how they conspired to delegitimize Donald Trump's presidential campaign in order to elect Hillary Clinton.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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I want to make sure you understand, particularly on Fox, when you're watching Fox,
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The Murdochs have Paul Ryan on their board for a reason.
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That reason is that they are the controlled opposition and they are the uniparty, and they're
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They tried to kneecap Trump with Megyn Kelly at the first debate, okay?
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And Breitbart, we backed them off with the great Matt Boyle and Tony Lee, we backed them
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They were never that far in our camp, trust me, even when the numbers closed.
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Murdoch was never, they were always jiggy about that.
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And the weekend before, they told us, they told me to my, you know, Ailes told me to
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They'd already done the polling, Murdoch made a decision, there was going to be Hillary
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Clinton, there was going to be foreign electoral votes, this was going to be a landslide, we
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And that's where Paul Ryan, well, that's one of the reasons Paul Ryan didn't come, he
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He called us up and he says, hey, you're going to lose Wisconsin, you're going to lose
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again, I can't be associated, I already lost with Romney, I can't be associated with
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And they backed out, they never had Trump's back, ever.
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Murdoch tweeted out in the summer of 15, I think it was July, quote, Trump, stop, you're
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Murdoch's always said, only after we won and he was rubbing up on Jared, those two rubbed
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up on each other, that there was any kind of rapprochement.
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And then as soon as, as soon as 3 November, they called it early, boom, they were out on
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They never once said, let's have an investigative reporter, let's look at this math.
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Have we drilled, have we drilled down and looked at this independently, brought in a new team
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to look at, like a team B to look at with new eyes?
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And then they said, we're going to make this, we're going to make Trump a non-person.
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We're not going to have a bunch of foreigners, a bunch of foreigners, you know, intrude into
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America, you've also, you've already done enough damage with Iraq and Afghanistan.
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You're cheerleading for the Iraq war was, was outrageous.
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And you talk about the election stealing, you know, oh, we can't push that.
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You know, we can't, you know, Trump's terrible.
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Think about, you never went and never did anything on the weapons of mass destruction
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You have to understand that there's a construct of the way the world operates.
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It's capital markets and it's national security.
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That's what's converging and conflating this crisis, this collapse.
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The Murdochs have, they're at the center of that.
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Their global media empire is at the center of that, of the neoliberal neocon world order.
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You're the only ones that can keep it going because they need your taxes.
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They need the insurance companies that have your money.
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And most importantly, you need your sons and daughters to go die on foreign battlefields
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on wars that are forgotten afterwards and have no victory.
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That's the tragedy for, you know, when Mo was over in Iraq, you sit there every day,
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Is this, is this the, is this for the Iraqis to have democracy so that a couple of years
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later they can sit there and go, you know what?
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We're going to, we're going to sell the oil to the Chinese communist party.
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We're going to only take it in, in a Chinese yuan.
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You're not going to convert into dollars to break the petrodollar.
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Murdoch, here's the way it's going to be, brother.
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You've disrespected Donald J. Trump long enough.
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He goes to East Palestine and gets the Biden administration.
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It's a global news event and you don't cover it live.
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Is there that much happening on Fox news at two in the afternoon that you can't cover him
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He hasn't been on Fox news since he announced for presidency.
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Let me ask you, any guy that brought peace to the world for four years until a Chinese
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Wouldn't you think to have respect for the audience, you would have him back up here to
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The deposition, they have a fear, a loathing, and contempt for you.
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The shareholders, if you want your share price to stay up, you need to take action.
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The first thing you need to do is get rid of Paul Ryan as an independent director.
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If Paul Ryan's saying that Trump wins, he's not going to go, then you got to get rid of
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The Murdochs immediately have to start covering President Trump.
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Well, wow, Tuesday, that was a pretty good speech, Tuesday, 25 April, if I do say, I love
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Thursday, excuse me, Tuesday, I get all confused here, 25 April, year of early, 2023, in studio.
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We brought in Caroline Wren, a total bomb thrower.
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You're going to be here for the, I think you're going to be here for the whole two hours.
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Matt Schlapp's going to join us, talk about CPAC Hungary and also the new scorecard they
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I played that because at CPAC, I threw down harder than Murdochs as being foreigners, as
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They didn't have the common decency or courtesy of everything, not just Tucker's done for the
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network, but everything Tucker's done for the country, because Tucker's the most prominent
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He's the only populist voice in primetime on a mainstream media channel, and he's got the
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His audience is bigger than all of CNN primetime combined.
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They don't even have a, I mean, the lack of respect, like the lack of respect they show
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Trump, the lack of respect they show, Tucker, who are you guys?
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The people that you follow and admire, like President Trump and Tucker, they totally disrespect.
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And here's what the Tucker drill is going to be.
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Wall Street Journal said yesterday that he was negotiating an extension of 2029, right?
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And I think he's still got a couple of years, two or three years left in the contract.
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Just like Louis Dobbs and the other guys, they pay him out on the terms because they don't
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He doesn't have the option of going somewhere else.
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This is to take the voice of populism and the voice of MAGA off of prime time.
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As I said in that speech, if DeSantis is not the guy to do it, they'll find Glenn Youngkin
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They'll find anybody to chop block Trump in the primary.
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If that doesn't work, they'll get in the back of Joe Biden, right?
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And it's all about stopping Trump and stopping MAGA.
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Is anything I've said there that you think is logically wrong?
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I don't even watch any of the other shows anymore.
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And Tucker gave the most incredible speech that I've seen anyone give besides your CPAC
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He just talks about how, guys, how are you, I love Heritage, but white papers are dead.
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How are you supposed to write a white paper when they're trying to mutilate children right
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It's like, we can't have these white paper discussions.
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He was exploiting the MAGA movement to make money.
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And the problem that is really happening is the children.
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But James Murdoch, one of his sons, who some people thought may take over, is a militant
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And we all need to be fighting an alternative to Fox right now because Rupert's on his way.
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But even with the alternative to Fox, I don't think, unless something comes up, I think what
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they're going to do is try to pay him out on his contract.
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And just like they do with Lou Dobbs and these other guys and Megyn Kelly.
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It's only when your contract expires, then you start your podcast, something like that.
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This play, I believe, and I could be wrong, this play is to make sure that the Trump movement,
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MAGA, and even where Tucker maybe is not full MAGA, he covers the issues in a sophisticated
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way for the audience to be able to kind of say, OK, I understand this, and grapple onto
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He's got his, if you look at the punch list of what he covers, it's amazing.
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They're the cheerleaders for the oligarchs on Wall Street.
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They're the cheerleaders for the big tech oligarchs.
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They give you shiny toys to play with that always go chase something else.
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And they'll give that to you as long as it doesn't make any difference in basically how
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I think he's been shopping to sell Fox for some time.
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I've read some, there's been some different reporting on that.
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And you know who, when you go sell a large company like that, where do you go?
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And so if Larry Fink is looking to buy Fox Corp, of course they want Tucker out.
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It's about making money for the Murdochs and others.
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And those guys want to silence the voices of America First and people like Tucker.
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If Tucker is not able to go to any competitor and has to be quiet for three years, this
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This is what everything always comes back to, is silencing people like Tucker to be
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And this is why we need places like the war room.
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It has to be silenced because how can a guy do for a network, and not just that for the
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American people, what he's done, and you tell him a few minutes beforehand and you don't
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let him have a whole week of kind of farewell shows and things like that.
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You call him up and say, hey, here's what it's going to be, and they announce that his
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And I know this because they tried in the first part of that.
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In August of 2016, in that first debate, that order came down from Rupert Murdoch.
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That was Rupert Murdoch directly through Ailes to Megyn Kelly and to Brett
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You've got to blow Trump up in the first 10 minutes of that debate, first by the
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raising of the hands and then by her coming in and going back to his, as Rush Limbaugh,
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the great Rush Limbaugh would say, a drive-by media, right, where you go to the guy's
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Facebook page or Twitter account over 10 years and you pull out a couple of random
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Megyn Kelly had a whole PBS special, What a Misogynist I Am.
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And when Roger Ailes said, you've got to knock this off, I said, hey, here's how we're
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Tony Lee and Matt Boyle, I've got two assassins.
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And she's crying and getting, you know, I've got to get security.
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It's a tough, this is called the National Football League, right?
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The only way you're going to get their attention is to cut the TV off and watch anybody else.
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And I'm not saying you've got to come and watch Real America's Voice or War Room.
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And particularly don't buy anything that they're advertising.
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The Murdochs are foreigners and scumbags that hate this country.
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How could you do, I mean, how could you, how could you not just pull him off the air with
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what he's done, but to show the lack of respect to the audience?
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And you've seen the whole thing of their deposition.
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The lack of respect for the audience that Tucker's built up, that is the most powerful audience
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Hannity gave him a thing in passing reference to something else.
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In an entire day, there's not 30 seconds of a hat tip and gratitude to Tucker Carlson.
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Because he, you know, a lot of, some people are reporting that it was coming, the text
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messages where he's talking about some negative things about dear, I call him now dear leader.
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Rupert Murdoch is basically how it is over there.
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I mean, God forbid you say something negative about him.
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And so, yeah, they just, they asked him, no warning or anything.
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And I would say, you know, good, Tucker, you're better off.
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But the problem is having him off air for three years is dangerous.
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If he could go move someplace tomorrow or set up his own deal or start his own channel
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or do anything that Tucker has fully got the capability and the capacity to do, it'd be
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Because they're already, Wall Street Journal already had it in the journals owned by Murdoch
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that he, and they said he's got a $20 million contract for this year they're going to pay out.
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I think the journal reported that also, the Times, for extension.
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We've got Caroline Wren in a day that we need Caroline Wren.
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The far right column, Fox News oust Carlson, a voice, wait for it, of the far right.
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If you're a populist nationalist, that's their lead story right there.
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You were at Mar-a-Lago last night, the kickoff, and we're going to have some big announcements
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on this later in the week, but man, oh man, I got my copy.
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Of course, I didn't go to the kickoff because I'm in bed at 8 o'clock, but Carolyn Wren,
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the party animal here locally, look at this book, huh?
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That's President Trump's new book on the letters, and man, it is incredible.
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I think they're going to get you one because I think you'll sell it out.
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So I'm going to tell people anything we sell on Wednesday is going to be, so 45.com, you're
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It's a great gift for Mother's Day or for Father's Day if your mother or father are pure
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MAGA and a fanatic like the people that watch The War Room.
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The President Trump and the write-ups he's got, he's got the letters, and then he's
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got both barrel write-ups on it, so it's quite interesting.
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It also shows you what we're going to talk about, is that what he gave up for the presidency
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And you can tell in the letters and think he did that and look at how they attack him
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That's, he walked away from, quite frankly, a perfect life for his country.
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What was the scuttlebutt last night about Tucker at the book launch?
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Because you had all the prominent folks that go to those things.
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It was only about 45 people, and it was the President's friends and family that he wanted
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And it was nice to actually, to be there just to celebrate him for a little bit.
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But actually, the book is kind of the ultimate troll.
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If you sit and look through it, I was sitting with another patriot from down here who was
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going through, and he was flipping, he's like, this person's a traitor, this person's
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Well, if you go through it, it's letters from all these people who now act like Trump is
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the devil and evil, but they're writing them essentially love letters, right, up until he
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And it's always indicative of how the left views all this in politics as a war, and the
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Politicians on the right, they quietly will still kind of call over to these type of people
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and want to be their friends and say publicly and privately totally different things.
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The left just goes to war with you when you enter politics.
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And so it's an ultimate troll, but it just shows how powerful he was.
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They view it as war, and we still view it as a badminton match.
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That's one of the reasons that the Trump MAGA movement views it as war, and that's how the
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Republican establishment always wants to downplay that, right?
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They want that platform taken away, and they're going to plug in a Brian Kilmeade or somebody
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But I will tell you, the ultimate troll, though, was he went on last night, though, about Don
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He was like, I know I'm very sad about Tucker, but let me tell you who I'm not sad about.
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Good riddance to Don Lemon, and just went on and on, so you would have died with that,
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People don't know that Don Lemon went and sucked up to Ailes years ago.
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He tried to get over to Fox and tried to get a better deal, because these guys, they're
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I love that they had an openness from the cold open on CNN without Don Lemon.
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They gave him about, and they had a clock ticker down there.
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She and Poppy got a scalp, bloody scalp, sitting hooked right to the belt, the Chanel belt.
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Big news on the precinct strategy and the grassroots that are telling the establishment
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Carolyn Ryan, why don't you walk us through the bigger picture, and then I want to get
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Candice in here, who actually had this major upset victory and is now one of the chairs
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in one of the most important counties in all of Georgia.
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Tell us what's going on across the country as you see it.
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You've been preaching the precinct strategy for a couple years, and what I'm about to
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kind of lay out for you absolutely proves that it works.
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We've got South Carolina, Georgia, and Arkansas.
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Those three states recently held their districts under the county GOP party elections, and the
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adjectives that are being used to describe the victories from America First are, I mean,
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they're saying the establishment got clobbered, that they were annihilated.
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I mean, those are the adjectives that they're using.
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The Palmetto State has GOP elections at the precinct county and the state levels.
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So they had the precinct or the neighborhood elections were a few weeks ago, and the old
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school establishment Republicans suffered humiliating losses at that level.
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Then this past weekend, the county GOP elections were held.
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I'm told once again, the establishment was not at all prepared for the losses they were
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They had just crushed it at the precinct level, and that carried over to the county election.
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So let me just give you one example real quickly.
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In Lexington County, they voted on five races, and America First candidates won all five.
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Out of 51 delegates they elected to send to the state convention next month, 51 are America
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So in Lexington County, South Carolina, they now have a GOP board that is 100% America First
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and a slate of delegates that is 100% America First.
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It was a complete sweep, and that is just one county.
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The rhino class got crushed in counties all across the state.
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Even the left-wing newspaper here, the AJC, was forced to report on all the wins by America
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The AJC saying that five or six districts saw overwhelming wins, and they called it by
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Translation, pro-constitution, honest election, America First conservatives.
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But I'm talking to a number of activists behind the scenes here who say it's a lot more
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America First, they're saying, saw huge gains in all of Georgia's 14 congressional.
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She was elected this weekend to GOP chair in Georgia's first congressional district.
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You may remember, Candace, she ran for governor, or she used the platform Jesus Guns Babies.
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So yeah, she is now the chair there in first district.
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The second congressional district, same story there.
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They replaced their establishment chairman with an America First patriot.
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And let me tell you, Steve, a lot of these candidates are running on election integrity
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One of the activists that I spoke with, he actually was just elected to state delegate
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there in the second congressional district in Georgia.
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They actually kind of coordinated a, quote, takeover, he said, because their leadership was
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He said the people in these Georgia counties, the America First patriots, they do not trust
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They've been saying this for years now, since 2020.
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And they are now winning at that precinct and county level.
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So, and the same story goes in Arkansas, by the way.
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Because you've got to win, as you've been talking about, Steve, at the precinct and county
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level, if you want to have influence over your state GOPs, your state lawmakers, and theoretically
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No, this is Schultz's, and here's why it's important.
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And Schultz's precinct strategy and Steve Stern, we've had him on here.
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They're preaching that gospel throughout the nation.
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I think Dan was out in California this weekend.
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There's a huge conference, huge convention out there.
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But for folks, South Carolina, when you get down to the South, the establishment, I mean,
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these are MAGA states with MAGA patriots, right?
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Like Candace Taylor, we're going to get in a second.
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But when you get to South Carolina, Arkansas, and Georgia, the establishment there are old
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They don't want to hear what the grassroots have to say.
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They don't want to hear what the MAGA movement has to say.
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They got the way they run the deal, and that's the way the deal's run.
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And you're just not, you know, they don't embrace, if you show up for these meetings,
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So what I think is so important is it's those three states, and you're starting to see real
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movement and starting to win real positions of power.
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They've had this establishment stronghold for so long.
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You've got the Lindsey Graham and the Nancy Mace Republicans there in South Carolina.
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There are some elected officials, Steve, who did not even get elected to be delegates this
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He's the guy who wears the little Ukraine lapel flag on his lapel.
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And let me tell you, they fought like hell, Steve.
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I'm talking to Keith Blanford and others, some activists behind the scenes.
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They studied parliamentary rules so they could be prepared.
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They went through role-playing in case there was any shenanigans.
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This is, I'm telling you, in South Carolina particularly, they play hard.
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You're an absolute fire breather, Candace Taylor.
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And I've always loved your platform, Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
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And I just want to say the Atlanta Journal-Constitution was so excited about your victory.
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They put a big, bold headline, Georgia GOP taken over by far right-wing fanatics or something
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Candace, give us a minute, and then we'll hold you through the break.
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We're going to go into these counties, and we're going to get rid of these voting machines.
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And we're going to win in 2024 with President Trump.
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They want to pretend and play patty cake, and we're done with those games.
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I had volunteers all over the state of Georgia.
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They listened to me speak this for three years on the campaign trail, and they took initiative
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You've seen what's happening in places like Arkansas and Georgia and South Carolina.
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These patriots with literally no resources, just self-organizing or taking over the Republican Party.
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They've got these big discounts of inventory they're trying to move.
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You have a way of communicating and connecting with people.
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When you ran, your platform was Jesus, guns, and babies.
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That's kind of old school Americana, but it connected with people.
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And it kind of sums up what the grassroots really want the establishment to get out of the way and let the grassroots, let the people get power.
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And we'll start setting things right and turning things around.
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They're taking up all their free time to do this?
00:31:34.680
Because I just want to make sure our national and particularly our international audience understand this, particularly when you look at places.
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When you look at these, particularly these southern and some of these western states that are huge.
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They have, in many regards, the hardest core anti-Trump establishment runs the political apparatus in the states.
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When you talk Arkansas, when you talk Georgia, when you talk South Carolina, let's throw in Mississippi, okay?
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And the last thing that they want to hear from is a bunch of grassroots mega-valonteers that want to talk about Jesus, guns, and babies.
00:32:30.040
As I gave my speech on Saturday morning and I talked about having the Trump rally for President Trump in the 1st District, the room went crazy.
00:32:38.680
And I saw the establishment sitting there like, did she just really say we're going to pull Donald Trump to the 1st District?
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This is where we came into Georgia, where we found it, and we're going to pull it here.
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And the people, you don't believe the sacrifice.
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They delayed credentialing three hours trying to get people to leave, which 40 people did.
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They did leave, and they were not able to vote.
00:33:04.060
They were doing everything they could to keep me out of that seat.
00:33:06.620
And the seat, honestly, when I won it, I was shaking, Steve, because it was the power of God.
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This whole state has been hijacked by criminals, and we're done with it.
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And that's why we see Brian Kent will not speak at the state convention the beginning of June.
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He got booed off the stage when he spoke there two years ago, right after the election and the hijacking that was done in Georgia.
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And I think probably because I won that seat, he's scared that I might speak and get a standing ovation because the people actually want someone that's going to represent them and do what they want.
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We're tired of this election process in Georgia.
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You deal with all the higher-ups, the money guys, everything like that.
00:33:56.200
How do they view the Candace Taylors of the world, of the people that are making things happen at the grassroots but want fundamental change and see that our countries –
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You guys are going to Hungary where Viktor Orban is fighting that and fighting the color revolutions at the tip of the spear there in Europe as a guy that is as big a patriot as you've got.
00:34:19.620
But you just had a color revolution in Tennessee where they're trying to – and the establishment will collapse immediately.
00:34:27.640
Montana, they had to bring the riot police to stop the radical transgenders in the House.
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This is not – and the establishment just wants to continue to go to the country club.
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They want to continue to go to the Masters or Augusta National.
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This gap between donors and the Candace Taylors of the world, can it be bridged?
00:34:54.060
Because we – our party systems are set up from a very top-down way.
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So when I was going through this with the RNC race, the thing is these party committees rely entirely on the RNC to just transfer the money.
00:35:04.260
And so they don't care and have to care of what the grassroots think or what others think.
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They just want to keep people in Washington, D.C. happy and the different party committee leaders and the donors happy so that they get their transfer.
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And so what people like this are doing in the states are saying, no, no, no.
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We can have Mike Wendell come do fundraisers for our state party.
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And we're going to take this over ourselves and do it ourselves.
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And that is exactly what has to happen because this way that these state parties are set up, it's a social welfare program out of Washington, D.C.
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It is the opposite of what the Republican Party and the issues that we stand for on.
00:35:39.120
And it is so fabulous to see people like this run for these local offices because it matters.
00:35:48.000
How can people follow you because the AJC has already put a big target on you?
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They're so – the Atlanta Journal-Constitution is so thrilled that you were able to win.
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And I just want to say, you know, we are bridging that gap that you're talking about with these big donors.
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I kept one of the seats of one that had been established.
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He told me – he said, Candace, we can't talk about paper ballots all the time or people won't come out to vote.
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We're going to vote bigger than we ever have, but we're getting paper ballots.
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And we actually made a strategy on how to reach these big donors.
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He knew the number of millionaires and billionaires we have in the first district.
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And it's more than anywhere else in the state besides Atlanta.
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They're going to come over to our side, and we're going to link arms together because we are patriots, and we're going to take the state back.
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Look forward to have more of these grassroots folks in South Carolina and Arkansas join us, too.
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And for the donors watching, that's what you need to do.
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Don't go through D.C. and wait for some trickle-down transfer.
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Schlapp, you're a guy they've come after the more that CPAC's evolved into a populist nationalist.
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You're with Viktor Orban and that team, I think, next week.
00:37:22.840
Tell us about people coming after you and how excited, particularly some of the big donors, and how excited Fox was about coming and working this time at CPAC, sir.
00:37:41.400
We saw Newsmax step in, but we didn't see too much Fox, and I don't think Fox wanted their major personalities to show up.
00:37:48.820
And what I've learned over time, you know, Steve, I've been doing this eight years, and Caroline knows this, which is the cast of characters that are seen as leading the conservative movement changes.
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But the stars, quote-unquote, change over time.
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And so I've learned to not get my feelings hurt when some of the big boys decide that they don't want to hang out with you so much.
00:38:19.320
What we noticed at CPAC is that there's a grassroots pushback going on around the country,
00:38:24.180
and they see leaders like Viktor Orban or Jair Bolsonaro, who joined us recently at our most recent CPAC,
00:38:31.600
or Carrie Lake, who Caroline has partnered so well with, who's going to join us at CPAC Hungary.
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And that's why the ratings that came out yesterday are so important, because it separates the talkers from the doers.
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You put out your annual survey of people when you really got a vote.
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Yeah, go to CPAC.org, and you can look at wherever every senator, every congressman came out in our scores.
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We all know this, but this gives you scientific data behind it, which is the Democratic Party is fully woke, fully socialist, fully Marxist.
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He comes from a ruby red state, and he gets into the teens with his scores.
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Matter of fact, the modern-day moderate Democrat, do you know who the modern-day moderate Democrat is?
00:39:42.960
We have a lot of Republicans in the 50s, including Mitch McConnell.
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They're kind of like the old moderate Democrat.
00:39:51.060
And the reason why we have so many Republican senators scoring in the 50s and in the 60s is because, as you know, the only thing that passes that, God-blessed Senate, are spending measures.
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And they call everything in an emergency spending measure a must-pass spending measure.
00:40:05.060
And if you like spending, and if you're a Republican who likes spending, you're not going to survive our ratings very well.
00:40:10.920
No, what's very powerful, you talk about ratings, I mean, what's your, and I want everybody in the war room to go get this and to think about it.
00:40:20.660
It shows the shift, but it's kind of like the shift in Fox, where right after the election, they're trying to be a centrist, maybe even a centrist left, where Manchin gets plenty of airtime, Mitch McConnell gets plenty of airtime.
00:40:31.720
And if you want to see what the game is, just go to Schlapp and see PAC's voter analysis, and you see that the new centrist Democratic Party are these senators, right?
00:40:51.020
But that's, it shows you the shift in Fox, because those are the guys that get the airtime on Fox all the time.
00:40:58.260
Look, what you see at Fox, from my perspective, is the schizophrenia between what goes on when the sun's out and then your primetime hosts.
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And we've all been watching this saying, how long can the center hold here?
00:41:11.060
Well, I think we found out yesterday that it's not going to hold.
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And so the text I get over and over again, obviously, I guess I have to kiss your rear end, Steve, because, but it happens to be true, which is your show is garnering a larger and larger percentage of people.
00:41:26.380
We have a complete shattering of the ways that people used to get their information.
00:41:31.640
And the number one text I got from people yesterday, and it was a lot, where do I go now at night to get my news?
00:41:39.400
And I was able to give them three or four options.
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At these moments when everything seems to be breaking down, there's another thing that happens.
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When spring is coming, and these little shoots are dappling up out of the ground, and you have all these places where truth-tellers are giving you what's actually happening, including in the swamp, go there.
00:42:03.080
You don't have to go to some legacy media company to have them tell you what's going on, and then you have to listen to a Bud Light commercial.
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Just turn it off, and go to the places that give you the facts.
00:42:15.220
One of the boldest moves that you made that resonates everywhere, and I know it rattled the New York Times and the Financial Times and the Times of London, is when you started doing these CPACs.
00:42:25.860
You started in Japan, but when you did CPAC Brazil, when you did CPAC Mexico, and particularly CPAC Hungary.
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And I think Tucker, correct me if I'm wrong, I think Tucker went to your initial one.
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You went to our initial one, but think about this.
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They call us racists all day long, white supremacists, racists, Christian nationalists.
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I haven't met too many Christian nationalists in Japan or Korea, by the way, maybe the missionaries, but that's about it.
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No, we haven't had CPAC Antarctica yet, but it could be around the corner.
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But with all these people who look different, different nationalities, different races, they still call us racists.
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We visit an orphanage with 4,000 really sad stories of these young girls in Mexico City being rescued by these just heroic nuns.
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We talk about God right in the center of politics in Mexican politics.
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We get attacked by all the tin pot dictators throughout South America about our hate.
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And they can't stop calling us racists as we're meeting with people all over the rainbow in terms of their ethnicity.
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I know you've got to go, but I just want a few minutes.
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They've got their big analysis of people's voting records, what they can't hide from.
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They're also going to be in Hungary and get to all of that.
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And Caroline Taylor – Caroline Ryan is also going to sum up the grassroots next to work.
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So this is the benefit you get from being immersed in all the information we're putting up there all the time.
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Matt Schlapp, I know you've got to bounce, but CPAC Hungry, give us a short review of that.
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I know Carrie Lake, who's going to join us next, is going to be there.
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And how can people get to it that actually can't travel?
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It might be a little bit delayed with the time change.
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When we went to Mexico, everyone in the Western Hemisphere from all these countries who love freedom, mostly believers, mostly Christians, came to CPAC because it was the place to be.
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Those Western Europeans are so angry that we fly over London and Paris and all these other places where they think Rome, places that we think we should stop.
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All the conservatives in those countries follow us, and they go there, too.
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So it's a hub for all the activity happening in Eastern Europe and all throughout Europe.
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And so if you want to watch what's going on, you'll hear what's going on in all these countries, the conservative pushback that's going on in all of them.
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And, of course, they all want America to succeed.
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Every one of these countries, Steve, you know this.
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By the way, Caroline was in Hungary last year, and I thought she was at a rock concert when Victor Orban came on the stage.
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I don't want to get too graphic here, but I think she was like – did you say almost like a groupie, Caroline?
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I was front row, like going – I'm getting all these texts from reporters like, what are you doing with these authoritarian leaders?
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The guy kicked George Soros out of his country.
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How do we get accused of being Nazis or authoritarians or whatever they call us when we're in the country, right, to take on George Soros face-to-face?
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The best the left can do is say that's because CPAC gets George Soros' money, the insanity of the news media that we all have to live through.
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But I will say when we went to Mexico and we got all those leaders throughout Western Hemisphere, Steve, that's when it got everyone's notice here in New York City and in Hollywood.
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Like that's when they really started to hate us and Mercy and I have experienced when they want to take you down, as you two both know, they don't stop at anything.
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The good news is I have a savior who believes in me and they can't do it.
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Because you gave an alternative to what the Sao Paulo group, all the leftists and communists and Marxists and Lula is like their guy and Lula sold us out to the CCP as I told people in the very first chance he had.
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They're all united and when CPAC offered an alternative by going to Mexico and actually talking about religious freedom and talking about the role religion has in politics,
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the Sao Paulo atheistic Marxists said, OK, enough of that.
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We're taking every name that went there and we're going to get every one of them.
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It helps the fact that I have as my companion Mercedes Vianna Schlapp, who is the biggest anti-communist you'll ever meet, and she kicks their ass in their own language.
00:49:09.400
My theory behind why they were going after him is because, you know, I was in that first batch of January 6th subpoenas with me, you, Kash Patel, whoever else, and scariest day of my life.
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I get a call from Matt Schlapp, and he says, Carolyn, you don't know me that well.
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This is going to be the worst day of your life.
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Mercedes and I want you to come over for dinner tonight, and we're going to talk about what to do.
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They open up their home with their five children, and Matt and Mercedes prayed with me and said, we're going to help you.
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They started a legal fund for me the next day and for all these others that were being targeted by Liz Cheney and others.
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And that's the type of work that CPAC and the Schlapps do.
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I didn't hear from Ron and McDaniel or others, but I heard from the Schlapps, and they saved my life in that day and a lot of others.
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And so that's why we all, people like the Schlapps, we all need to band together, and that's why they go after the best of us.
00:49:58.520
You've got an observation, too, before we let Matt go, about the CPAC, the analysis they do on the voter guide.
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I noticed a lot of the people at the hundreds and the top ratings have endorsed Donald Trump.
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And then the other big endorsement yesterday was Steve Daines.
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Daines is the head of the NRSC, a lot of the owners, and Trump is just getting all these endorsements in from members of Congress.
00:50:24.000
And it's pretty fascinating to watch because they knew a lot of these conservatives, it's all the conservative members, how much better life was with him as president and that they could actually work with him.
00:50:32.260
And Trump's problem is with all those Republicans who are getting 50s and 60s.
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He's not having a problem getting the Jim Jordan brigade.
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They're all with him because they know it's not so much anymore about the jot and tittle of all the policy that you believe in.
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It's whether you'll fight to the death for the main thrust of it.
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And that's what he did, and that's why people love him so much.
00:50:53.380
Matt, how do people find out more about the voter guide?
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How do they find out more about CPAC, Hungary, and tune into that?
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We're going to rate every state legislator as well.
00:51:08.840
So you're going to be able to see how every elected person in this country to a legislative chamber performs in our survey.
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You're going to see all the places we're going to go around the world.
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It's pretty exciting about the pushback that's going.
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The anti-global international tour is alive and well, and it starts in Hungary next week.
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And Caroline's going to be with me, and we're still going to convince you to go maybe.
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Caroline Ryan, the grassroots in Arkansas, Georgia, and South Carolina.
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But, hey, Steve, if you want to know how the establishment figures are feeling about all these
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Governor Kemp, Secretary of State Raffensperger, Attorney General Chris Carr, all three of them
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reportedly are skipping the state convention in June.
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They are snubbing all those America First delegates that just won.
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We're going to set up our own fundraising mechanism.
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He was talking to some top RNC donors, and he said the old Republican Party is gone and
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that we need to transition to the new America First party of the working class.
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And it appears that is already taking hold, particularly with such significant victories
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