Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 282： Millions Still Heading Towards Border Waiting For Title 42 To Be Lifted

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:17.320 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:25.100 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:30.880 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:35.960 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:39.720 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:46.840 stephen k bannon okay it is uh thursday 27 april in the year of our lord 2023 welcome

00:00:54.900 to the second hour of the war room uh let's go we've got two great heroes and leaders of this

00:01:00.400 movement in this incredible fight right now over saving the nation from this out of control spending

00:01:06.740 in our in our debt uh we've got annie biggs of arizona and chip roy's joining us by phone

00:01:11.680 i'll start with congressman roy from texas uh politico is reporting that the white house has

00:01:17.360 kind of been meltdown because mccarthy was able to pull together 218 votes which they never thought

00:01:22.640 would happen and kind of put it in the grill that we gave uh we gave an opening bid here

00:01:27.380 the biden white house supposedly does not know how to respond your thoughts sir

00:01:31.360 well first of all i'm glad to be on with andy my great friend andy's one of the warriors of

00:01:36.340 conservatism and he and i ended up on different places on the vote on this because andy being a

00:01:41.080 patriot wanted to see more cuts and wanted us to go even further i think we got to a place that was

00:01:45.820 good to get sent over to the senate uh to jam it down schumer's throat and the president's throat

00:01:50.700 because they refused to sit down at the table you know we got basically 4.8 trillion dollars

00:01:55.360 in reductions a trillion dollars in year one reductions andy was one of the guys who wanted

00:01:59.460 upfront cuts from day one uh we all joined in with him on that battle to get a trillion dollars up

00:02:04.900 front i think we got some really good policies put here to go put it on to them make them have to

00:02:10.900 answer why they're not going to respond like we did say if you want to raise the debt seat okay which

00:02:15.760 none of us want to do we don't want to borrow more money for our kids and grandkids then we damn

00:02:19.660 well ought to get some changes and that includes getting rid of the student loans that includes

00:02:24.200 cutting actual discretionary spending to reset the baseline that includes getting covid money back

00:02:29.720 that includes getting rid of the the ridiculous subsidies in the so-called inflation reduction

00:02:34.580 act which goes into the fat cat wallets of all of these you know green corporate whores who are out

00:02:40.040 there screwing our country up and make us beholden to china while they get rich and we subsidize them

00:02:44.580 screwing up our economy and undermining oil and gas so these are all things that move the ball

00:02:49.200 forward down the field and uh i look forward to watching democrats try to uh you know paint us

00:02:54.240 into a corner and use the same scare tactics that we want to cut money from women and children and

00:02:59.100 old people and everything else we're going to fight back and say we want economic growth and

00:03:02.540 and uh to save our country for our kids congressman roy and i think i've got it right you you were

00:03:07.760 chief of staff before you became a congressman you've been in these debt ceiling fights for for for

00:03:12.100 many many years and have been part of some of the best action we've had to really jam people up

00:03:17.840 and make them face the fact that we can't keep spending like this do you think i mean i understand

00:03:24.780 this was an interim to try to get to something that to force biting these guys to respond

00:03:28.840 but in a perfect in a more perfect world where would chip roy start doing this because four and a

00:03:35.360 half train as you know is not going to get us there where where do we go from here well it's a

00:03:41.160 great question and and look and i also want to be careful about saying you know it's an opening

00:03:44.500 shot and all of that like we think this is an actual responsible approach if the president or

00:03:49.560 the senate wants to counter then they need to counter with something that's responsible and

00:03:53.340 you and i both know full well they won't do that i don't want republicans to start negotiating already

00:03:58.200 about well it's an opening shot but we'll you know we'll cut it down the fact is we know we have

00:04:03.580 to deal with mandatory spending at some point but we need to have the willingness to sit down and

00:04:07.500 figure out the right way to do it to preserve social security retirement benefits and medicare benefit

00:04:12.160 while we actually address the problem but andy and i and others in the freedom caucus we laid down

00:04:17.320 a marker saying you got to reduce discretionary spending we got to go cut the bureaucrats you got

00:04:22.520 to go target the woke weaponized bureaucracy that's advancing all this crt critical race theory and

00:04:28.220 marxist garbage go you know let's go abolish an agency get rid of the department of education and

00:04:33.720 give that money back to the people let's be bold let's go i think right now we ought to double down

00:04:38.700 and say let's go get rid of the world health organization screwing the american people's

00:04:42.400 sovereignty and siding with china let's go go after atf because they're trying to make felons out of

00:04:47.880 americans for pistol braces let's go after the nih and cdc and fda because of the covet tyranny let's go

00:04:54.080 after you know let's go down the line let's go defund these world organizations so i think there's a

00:04:59.140 lot that we can do we can go further than than we did here but this got us to be able to get republicans

00:05:05.040 together to send this over to the senate and make them choke on it yeah last thing i was thinking if

00:05:10.220 i didn't and there's talk right now that biden may come back and just say hey look you didn't you

00:05:13.860 didn't hear me it's it's a clean debt ceiling is there i would certainly wouldn't say make this

00:05:19.760 opening bid to concede anything do you think if biden comes back and tries to play smash mouth

00:05:23.880 that hey clean debt ceiling or nothing that you will then have enough leverage to say okay let's have

00:05:31.120 a real old-fashioned fight on this thing and even come back with something harder i absolutely

00:05:36.660 uh believe that and do not intend to give an inch in that direction i mean look i'm not saying that

00:05:42.820 there isn't some place where we can land this plane uh for a shorter maybe debt ceiling hike or

00:05:47.920 something i mean you know like said we've all talked about those ideas uh you want to raise it you

00:05:52.160 know a certain amount or do it for three months or six months we can talk about one price tag but at

00:05:57.500 the end of the day if you dare try to come to us with a clean debt so-called clean debt ceiling

00:06:02.520 increase that is borrowing money with no changes that is an absolute no that is a burn the place

00:06:08.640 down we're going to bring bring this place to a standstill uh no go and i think republicans agree

00:06:15.320 with that there's probably a handful that might want to get a little wishy-washy but we will try to

00:06:19.560 deal with that you know uh straight up i've been very honest with my colleagues happy to work with

00:06:24.000 them to get something over to the senate but no no no way do we go cut some sort of deal like that

00:06:30.420 well what's great is to know that in this uh in the in the proposal you put forward in the first week

00:06:35.740 of uh of january that you actually had thought out and gamed out uh where we'd be in and getting uh

00:06:41.920 and getting some leverage here in this debt ceiling finally congressman roy you've got a big event

00:06:45.760 uh this weekend uh can you tell us our audience about it we want to make sure everybody that's

00:06:50.160 there can attend or get it on live stream or however they can get the content of you and

00:06:54.620 your colleagues well we got a big event down in austin texas uh that we're going to have down

00:06:59.980 there on the border uh we're going to be trying to encourage uh you know look we're trying to do

00:07:04.020 what we can here in dc we passed legislation out of the judiciary committee a week ago andy and i

00:07:08.940 worked on that together to move it through uh that would actually do the job of securing the border

00:07:14.280 basically it adopts president trump's policies for the most part with respect to migrant protection

00:07:19.680 protocols enforcing the law not releasing people uh we got to get that off the house floor and over

00:07:24.440 the senate but while biden and the senate stand in our way we need texas to hold the line we're trying

00:07:30.120 to encourage the texas legislature and and the texas governor uh governor and the folks down there to

00:07:35.860 stand up and hold the line so we're going to be at the capitol in austin uh this this saturday i

00:07:41.020 think it starts at noon a lot of great patriots going to be there uh jason jones i don't know you

00:07:46.200 know he's a great guy down there following all the cartels uh laura logan a whole bunch of great

00:07:50.620 folks and so i hope people will show up at the state capitol in austin on saturday we'll make sure

00:07:55.760 we drive a lot of traffic there congressman last thing your social media how do people uh follow you

00:08:00.180 your web page uh they want to know more about uh how you're driving these policies yeah absolutely on

00:08:06.300 twitter it's uh chip roy c-h-i-p-r-o-y-t-x chip roy texas uh and uh on the website my official website

00:08:14.500 is a roy.house.gov and uh yeah look we're going to be out there and keep trying to push through this

00:08:21.040 and message to make sure we force this on the senate and and the president we need help we need

00:08:26.060 the american people you need to engage you're listening nationwide push your republicans to hold

00:08:30.660 the line let's not give an inch we laid the marker down let's go further now and if you're in a

00:08:35.200 democratic district you go make sure your democrat members of congress know as well and the last thing

00:08:40.180 is demand that we secure the border when title 42 ends week after next man it is going to be a mess at

00:08:46.440 the border uh again we passed a good bill out of house judiciary that's a long way from getting signed

00:08:51.220 by the president we need to rally for freedom rally for sovereignty rally behind um uh the people here

00:08:57.980 are trying to carry forward president trump's great policies at the border congressman we just had uh we

00:09:02.320 had todd bensman on last hour and uh todd just got back from renoza and there's 15 000 haitians

00:09:08.220 right there in renoza right across mcallen all waiting to come as soon as title 42 is left so we

00:09:13.260 got a we got beyond a crisis in this nation right now and so uh proud that you're going to go down

00:09:18.220 to all center rally folks amen well thanks that todd also lives in austin and he's a great american

00:09:23.260 and exposes a lot of what's going on going on along with jason jones you you thank you for what you do

00:09:28.480 on doing that um we can win this fight the american people are with us especially hispanic voters i

00:09:33.400 mean you know president trump won a border county in texas for the first time in a hundred years

00:09:39.120 hispanic voters are with us and and you know governor de santa's won 62 percent of voters in

00:09:43.980 florida after sending a shipment of folks up to martha's vineyard governor abbott uh won his

00:09:48.640 election after sending folks up to campbell harris's house look we win when we're on offense we win in the

00:09:54.380 rule of law we win when we're not playing race politics and dividing us up by race and identity

00:09:59.140 we ran when we stand up for america and uh gosh i hope that uh republicans understand that here on the

00:10:05.120 hill and throughout the country congressman chipperroy god bless you thank you for coming on

00:10:09.580 look forward to following you on social media amen take care god bless thanks brother

00:10:14.300 obviously i want to talk to you about the budget in your heroic fight here but let me talk to you've

00:10:19.240 been the leading tip of the spear on uh the border uh invasion and particularly what's happened in

00:10:24.420 arizona these other border states is outrageous every state's a border state every city's a border

00:10:29.980 uh city every town's a border town uh give me your update you're the first guy i believe to put out

00:10:36.040 impeachment uh to document impeachment on mallorcas on all of them on the invasion of the southern

00:10:42.740 border the tight we had we had benzman on there's 15 000 haitians now uh in renoza he says there's

00:10:50.840 three times that many i guess from venezuela uh in uh in juarez this thing gets worse every day

00:10:57.620 the biden regime lies to congress every day straight up where do you think we stand well i've got even

00:11:04.660 worse news than todd does because i just got off the phone with uh a county supervisor from uh my state

00:11:12.240 sits right on the border they just had a briefing with uh the sector chiefs from san diego through

00:11:19.000 yuma to tucson and they are told that there's between 700 000 and a million people massing

00:11:26.220 uh south of the border that when title 42 goes away uh the cartels have planned to overwhelm the system

00:11:34.440 and so what's going to happen there steve is what they're anticipating they do not have enough

00:11:38.980 resources to keep them in the detention and processing facilities uh they don't have enough

00:11:45.280 personnel and and so when those facilities get full what's going to happen and this is this is real

00:11:51.360 because we've seen things like this in the past uh under this administration they're going to just

00:11:56.820 take pictures they're not even going to do full-on um processing they're going to take pictures if

00:12:02.360 we're lucky fingerprints probably not even that and then they're going to release them right in to the

00:12:07.300 local communities along the border that's what's going to happen it will be unlike anything we've

00:12:13.540 ever seen far worse than the the uh haitians uh underneath the bridge uh in del rio uh where you had

00:12:22.980 28 000 people come over the course of three days steve it uh and basically the word that they

00:12:31.380 that the locals are getting is uh and i hate to use this term but this is what what they said was

00:12:37.860 was they were actually told by uh cbp officials is i'm sorry you're screwed and the problem with it is

00:12:45.860 cbp agents and their families uh their support system they all live in these communities they know how

00:12:52.820 bad it's going to be but this administration is not going to back them up not going to help them

00:12:57.380 it's going to be overwhelming steve we're bringing some news here give me give me that again you just

00:13:04.660 got off the phone with a sector chief did i hear the number 700 000 to a million sir it was not with

00:13:12.100 the sector chief it was with a a county supervisor in arizona and he was he was relaying that they just

00:13:18.580 had this briefing um with the the sector chiefs and cbp and some of the ngos and and you know

00:13:29.540 mayors and council members from uh san diego to yuma and beyond moving east and that's the number

00:13:38.340 that they gave them and they said that the number coming through the darien gap and i've had this

00:13:43.460 confirmed from a different source when i was talking um earlier this week is that there's more

00:13:49.700 than a growth of 500 percent uh people coming through the darien gap and that's in panama

00:13:56.980 in the last uh a week or two they the cartels are experts they know that the u.s will logistically

00:14:05.620 facilitate this specifically under the biden administration so they've ginned up and they're

00:14:11.620 going to overwhelm the system we who knows how many bad guys are going to come in how much drugs

00:14:18.580 are going to come in how much problem people cry you know you're going to have you're going to have

00:14:23.380 terrorists you're going to have gang bangers you're going to have uh human and sex trafficking

00:14:28.420 because we will simply be overwhelmed and um the numbers i i guess the official number was 688 000

00:14:37.940 uh but that was from a month ago or so and they anticipate now between 700 000 and a million

00:14:45.060 can we hang on can we pull the clip uh from this morning do we have that

00:14:49.140 okay fine uh this morning i want to go to the i want to tie this to the budget and if i get it i want

00:14:53.380 to play we'll play in the call this morning um speaker mccarthy was on cnbc and had um um the the cnbc

00:15:02.660 guy that's the most conservative joe and he um and he was going after him talking about these ultra

00:15:08.340 mega radicals these ultra mega extremists on the budget and they specifically talked about the

00:15:14.020 defunding of the fbi i said you guys essentially want to defund the police and you want an open

00:15:18.260 border because you're cutting money here for border patrol now the reason we want you on you are the

00:15:23.940 you're the big i'm saying i tell you what we've got it let's play this i want you to hear it and i want

00:15:27.540 you to respond because this is targeted directly at congressman andy biggs one of the great patriots

00:15:32.820 and one of the few individuals that fights every day to secure the border let's go and play the clip

00:15:37.940 what was uh getting back just to the deaths it was a little bit disconcerting is i don't know

00:15:42.900 whether it's gaslighting or or what i call it but i'm hearing that you now in this bill i heard

00:15:48.740 senator van holland say you're trying to cut and defund law enforcement and you're also cutting

00:15:56.100 all of the border security funds so i just don't even know how you respond when we're that far apart

00:16:03.380 on both sides and both sides are so willing to demagogue and and you know ultra mega that's all

00:16:09.620 like wacko these are wacko ideas if someone should actually uh have to actually try to get a job to

00:16:15.780 to you know to receive some things at home so i i don't know how you ever come together speaker and i

00:16:21.140 don't know how you you know the first the first thing at cnbc because we're talking about the full

00:16:26.020 faith and credit of the u.s government here the the thing that you should look at is anytime someone

00:16:30.500 says about the bill just simply ask one question show me where it's written in the bill show me

00:16:35.060 where in the bill that it says we cut anything in the process we simply go back to the spending

00:16:40.660 levels we were at four months ago we're four months ago did a number of new border people be

00:16:46.820 hired or cops get hired in that process the only people who've defunded the police have been the

00:16:51.700 democrats openly and willingly and we've watched what happens in crime in our community if you watch

00:16:56.900 and compare what has passed in the house and what has passed in the senate there's a big big comparison

00:17:03.140 there we are simply doing the work that we said the american public we would do so congressman biggs

00:17:09.460 and by the way joe keenan there was was actually saying what the democrats say but you can get the gist of

00:17:13.700 it that the andy biggs of the world this ultra mega extremist are are going to give us an open border

00:17:22.180 because the cuts you're talking about are cuts that are going to get rid of all law enforcement

00:17:26.580 all border patrol all of it what say you sir well i mean the guy was right that the left demagogues this

00:17:33.780 stuff because um the the republicans are the only ones that actually recognize that there's a crisis on the

00:17:40.100 border steve yesterday in a committee hearing a prominent democrat actually said this she referred

00:17:48.500 to the border crisis as the so-called border crisis and um and i pointed that out to her and the the

00:17:56.340 reality is uh we want to get resources there we want to make sure that that um you've got enough money

00:18:04.500 to hire new agents you got that they have the material that they need uh we just did a bill

00:18:11.140 we're doing two bills one that's going to finish building the fence another and also provide all

00:18:17.140 kinds of of uh technical support for the border patrol agents and give them what they need whether it's

00:18:23.860 you know the lighting that they need the roads and the infrastructure uh all those things that they

00:18:29.060 need and at the same time we're going to we as part of that bill we're going to try to close the

00:18:34.420 border between the ports of entry and when you come in you're going to have to be uh follow the law

00:18:40.660 for a change the other side steve they don't want to do that they're the ones who really have the

00:18:47.780 border open and uh and i just say to people who who demagogue and they say come with me to the border i'm

00:18:56.260 happy to take you to the border and show you what's going on i'll show you what's going on at the ports

00:19:01.300 of entry i'll show you what's going on between the ports of entry i'll if if the cbp will let you i'll

00:19:07.060 take you into city south sided facility they don't usually let civilians see that but the bottom line is

00:19:14.100 the other side wants this border open more than anything so they're willing to lie cheat and steal

00:19:20.340 uh even on the messaging let me go back to to the budget you and congressman gates were one of the

00:19:27.460 hard six in uh that really got these tremendous changes uh that you would not budge an inch and i

00:19:34.100 know you're very close to chip roy i know you're very close uh to eli crane some of the other folks

00:19:38.900 that took it up to the limit but but voted for this you were a no and one of the things i've been

00:19:44.820 telling is that you know andy biggs has got i don't know 400 different proposals of bills that

00:19:51.220 will get to real cuts and i mean speaker mccarthy did say it he says hey these aren't these aren't

00:19:55.860 really cuts they're stop the increase in spending right that we already rashed up in 2022. where do we

00:20:04.180 and when i say opening bid right now politico is reporting the white house is is completely on their

00:20:09.700 back heel okay so when they come back and say we're not going to increase the debt ceiling uh

00:20:15.860 we're not going to have any cuts you got to give us a clean or we'll have a cup of coffee mccarthy

00:20:20.820 but we're not budging off our what we said going to be the law where do we do do we go to what any

00:20:28.020 biggs wants to do do we go to a place of where the real cuts and why did you not join up and sign

00:20:34.820 up with the squad the traveling squad that put this together well first of all you chip and i

00:20:41.780 worked on this type of stuff um and and we he and i work on but everything from the budget issues to

00:20:47.860 the border issues together and we work hard together just sometimes we we will have a disagreement so we

00:20:53.620 had a disagreement on this one and and the disagreement is this it is the speaker identified

00:20:59.300 it very well he said we're not actually cutting spending we're cutting the increase in spending

00:21:06.180 so think about that you're moving for 31.4 trillion dollars in national debt the baseline from cbo says

00:21:13.140 in 10 years that'll be 52 trillion dollars and if you include any biden spending it's going to be 55 to

00:21:19.300 58 trillion the savings here is about 4.6 to 4.8 train depend on which day they gave me the numbers

00:21:27.460 but i'm going to i'm going to round it up and say it may be five trillion dollars over 10 years so

00:21:34.340 what that means is instead of uh uh having 52 trillion you're going to be at 47 or 48 trillion

00:21:42.900 dollars in national debt absolutely unsustainable so that's one of the reasons that i introduced over 500

00:21:48.740 projection spending reductions to try to get this thing down and i also offered additional uh if you took

00:21:56.020 it down to 2019 levels and i would take it down 2019 levels on everything except for three three or

00:22:02.100 four things the mandatory social security medicare medicaid and the border patrol which uh our border

00:22:09.220 security but you can't use the border security stuff to to actually expedite people coming into the

00:22:15.620 country illegally which is what this administration would do if you did that you would actually kind of

00:22:20.180 you would you would obviate the need to increase that the the debt ceiling and if you if if we didn't

00:22:26.820 fully obviate that it would be just a very small small increase and uh i just believe steve if you

00:22:35.860 want the same thing then then keep doing this this is not the first time that republicans have said okay

00:22:41.540 we're going to give you a debt ceiling left and we just want to increase the spending

00:22:45.380 at a lower level than you're proposing uh and for me that just wasn't good enough we're on the brink

00:22:53.060 we're on the brink uh uh you know there was a forbes piece uh not too long ago where the guy said look

00:22:58.660 if we don't if we don't actually bend the curve down the trajectory down not just a lowering of the

00:23:05.540 slope which is what's happening their slopes democrats loves this where our proposed slope is this

00:23:10.740 i'm saying you got to bend it down he's the so the forbes writer said if you don't bend that slope

00:23:16.340 down guess what you're going to um uh we will lose the america as we know it you will not have america

00:23:22.980 as you know it and that's my big concern that's why i took the stance i did and um i'm hoping that if

00:23:30.180 that that mr mccarthy speaker mccarthy if if the senate uh comes back and says forget it we're going to

00:23:36.340 just raise this thing and the white house says the same i hope i hope we ratchet it down i hope

00:23:41.620 we ratchet down and try to reduce the spending so maybe you don't have to have that that that kind

00:23:47.620 of uh debt ceiling increase this is the point i'm making is that they come back and try to do this

00:23:53.060 nonsense on a clean thing and say okay we try to play nice but now let's go let's go smash mouth

00:23:58.740 what is it and look mccarthy's got a tough job i said his job much tougher than we have here in the

00:24:04.340 war room we're the dead enders the posses the chairman of the the chairman of the creditors

00:24:08.500 committee he's got to wrangle cats but what is it that moderate republicans and establishment

00:24:14.980 republicans don't get about what you just talked about the math here is pretty straightforward and

00:24:19.620 these are bright people what i don't understand is what are they missing because their constituents

00:24:24.580 can't possibly support this insanity what what is i think people question what's going on on

00:24:30.980 our side of the football in the conference well i wish i knew i wish i knew um you know some have

00:24:39.380 indicated like like you had you had some folks that said that they they had to absolutely have the

00:24:44.500 ethanol subsidies right okay um but then you're gonna have to offset that with a cut somewhere else

00:24:51.540 that's what i would have said okay what's what are we cutting what are we cutting to make me give you

00:24:56.660 those subsidies and and the bottom line is there are some people and and and i get it they're looking

00:25:02.420 for very particularized interest and um and i'm not sure the country understands the gravity yet

00:25:11.060 because when this country understands the gravity believe me then the members of congress will

00:25:16.020 understand the gravity and i think while a lot of members of congress see it they don't have trouble

00:25:21.060 believing it and they can't translate it to their their constituency and they're afraid that they

00:25:25.460 will get unelected uh that's all i can that's all i can guess that's all i can hazard a guess about

00:25:30.980 steve uh congressman how can they find out more about this principled stand that you took and look

00:25:37.300 we're not trying to uh you know um talk down of anybody else this was a tough one it was something

00:25:44.900 that was important to get done it's put the white house back on their heels but how can people find

00:25:49.700 out more if we're going to get it out to the nation how can the war of posse find out more about

00:25:53.060 annie biggs and what he's doing here yeah steve before i give you that i'll just say this if it

00:25:58.340 wasn't for the freedom caucus it would not have looked anything like this i'm just telling you

00:26:03.620 it just would not have looked anything like this everything that you saw in there was freedom caucus

00:26:08.500 driven um and uh i i really really believe the speaker would have kind of just put a couple of

00:26:15.300 tokens of of uh you know some some paint paints or band-aids on it and send it over but this was done by the

00:26:21.540 freedom caucus and so uh i don't i don't criticize anyone who worked on this but if you want to know

00:26:29.140 i i put out a number of videos steve about leading up to this talking about debt ceiling what it is

00:26:35.620 talking about structural deficit talking about why we do this and you go to at rep andy biggs az

00:26:40.820 or at biggs.house.gov that's going to get you to uh to see those videos and my explanation

00:26:46.500 congressman you're doing the work keep keep fighting really appreciate it sir

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00:31:37.700 war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:31:50.660 we have alex degrasse who's joining us alex thank you very much um stefanik and team are doing an

00:31:57.940 incredible job i'm very complimentary they're able to pull leadership was able to pull this together it's

00:32:03.860 not my the bill i would want i would want real cuts the war impasse wants real cuts but we understand

00:32:10.020 to put something out there and political politico's kind of confirming the fact of what people thought

00:32:16.820 particularly people in leadership said we got something that's tough and we understand it's not

00:32:20.340 perfect and you know the the hard right of war room are gonna are gonna complain right as we should

00:32:27.860 but political is reporting today which you've been talking about to me for a couple weeks that biden

00:32:33.220 i never expected this they're kind of gobsmacked right now about where they go and the polling

00:32:38.580 shows that the american people feel that the maga and the republicans are are being straight with them

00:32:45.540 in trying to settle this and not taking these extreme positions like uh a clean debt ceiling uh lift

00:32:52.100 your thoughts yes the number one priority is obviously dramatic spending cuts which the american people

00:33:00.260 voted for when they put in a house republican majority which the posse played obviously a

00:33:04.900 huge role in and i think the key here is to get biden to the to the negotiating table with speaker

00:33:10.580 mccarthy that is what the far left biden's handlers want to avoid at all costs because they know when he

00:33:17.380 gets in a room with the speaker we're going to clean his clock and they have no answer to the american

00:33:22.100 people a clean debt ceiling is off the table i mean senator manchin saying that the cracks are

00:33:27.060 breaking in the senate and the voters are on on our side especially in these critical districts so

00:33:32.820 they underestimated republicans and thought that you know for weeks you heard them going on tv msnbc

00:33:38.260 well we need a plan we need a plan they can't pass the plan well we've passed the plan and they need

00:33:43.540 to meet us and have a conversation about it and how we can cut spending because it will be joe biden

00:33:49.060 that takes us over the cliff we've done our job as house republicans and now biden needs to meet us

00:33:54.100 somewhere and get a handle on it do you think that they understand that the the posse and much of the

00:34:00.900 freedom caucus kind of backed off here and said okay if we need to do this to get to the 218 right

00:34:07.300 we'll do it but that the there are you know 40 or 50 votes at least that are sitting there going no

00:34:12.980 if you come back to us if you try to pull this nonsense of a clean debt ceiling you're not gonna sit

00:34:17.620 down with mccarthy we're gonna go where we want to go like bigs is go back to 219 let's start

00:34:22.900 having some real cuts do you believe the democrats right now in the house and the senate and the

00:34:28.260 biden white house do you think that they understand how serious our side of the football is and that

00:34:33.620 we think that we can bring the american people along for even deeper cuts i think that the i think

00:34:40.100 democrats know that and that's why they're panicking steve because we are actually pretty unified in

00:34:44.580 terms of marching forward as one team they're the ones that have issues they don't have a plan

00:34:49.860 steve if they did they would pass it they would put out a plan a clean debt ceiling is not a plan i

00:34:56.660 mean that's just not going to happen and so that will be a choice that they make if they're going

00:35:00.420 to take us over the cliff on their side and you know the polling is already on our side that's why

00:35:05.140 they're panicking because voters are smart i think the posse's out there i mean the fact that voters

00:35:10.500 understand this sort of somewhat complicated issue is pretty interesting that um it's got pretty high

00:35:16.180 you know voters know i guess in these battleground seats that there's this negotiation going on i mean

00:35:20.980 people are making steep cuts at home steve so why can't people make steep cuts in the government i mean

00:35:26.500 some of this stuff is very very basic stuff as a starting point see the deal is steve as soon as they

00:35:32.020 start admitting that they have to claw back covet funds that we have to cancel these green new deals we've

00:35:38.260 won and then it's a free fall from there on their side if that makes sense right they can't afford to

00:35:42.740 give up an inch because the whole thing will crumble on their side so the couple things i want to go

00:35:47.060 through tell me you're the analytics guy as you've seen some of the polling and the data come in here

00:35:53.060 what is it what is it telling you about how this is going to break particularly if we're able to get

00:35:57.380 the word out even more to the american people so two things in safe republican seats uh we are

00:36:04.660 overwhelmingly like our base is with us they know and they've actually given faith you know to

00:36:09.860 speaker mccarthy the polling numbers look really good we understand that look we've got to get in

00:36:14.180 the room we've got to negotiate in good faith we've got to get a handle on this that we need steep cuts

00:36:18.820 i mean the american people know that you need steep cuts cutting the government right now is actually a

00:36:24.340 popular position in these battleground seats voters know so that's a rare thing i mean it's somewhat kind

00:36:29.620 of tough traditionally to get people to cut government right so right now momentum is on

00:36:34.900 our side and that's what democrats are panicking about i think ultimately you know these the

00:36:40.500 democrats is interesting so they're launching negative ad campaigns in some of our swing seats

00:36:44.900 i think they're keeping the pressure up because they're trying to have us cower so it's gonna this

00:36:49.220 is a real big inflection point frankly in terms of how this is playing out for 2024 because

00:36:54.180 they're leaning in and we're leaning in and it's only going to get much hotter over the next two weeks

00:36:59.060 it's going to get hotter and also even the way this deal is structured if you if you agree if

00:37:03.460 they agreed which they won't to the republican proposal this means we're back at the negotiating

00:37:08.180 table i don't know in november or december or january not just on appropriations we're we're back

00:37:14.340 we're back on uh we're back on hitting the debt ceiling again so this is going to be a running gunfight

00:37:19.140 all the way up to 2024 this is going to be the centerpiece of it two things number one i want to get

00:37:23.060 to the green new deal but we just had any biggs on here he just got off with a county supervisor in

00:37:28.260 arizona at one of the frontline counties they're saying hey we just had a conference call and

00:37:33.140 they're telling us there's 700 000 to a million uh basically illegal aliens on the other side of the

00:37:39.460 border that once 42 comes off they're just going to bum rush the gates and there's that i think it's

00:37:44.820 the nbc report you got me that the democrats everybody's talking the administration say well

00:37:48.980 we're out of money we don't have money for border patrol right now so the gates are just going to be

00:37:53.220 open what is going on here sir well i think it's obviously the crisis here it's pretty bad i we've

00:38:00.340 been getting updates it's really not even just the southern border but it's the northern border but

00:38:04.980 also thousands of illegals pouring in through canada coming up through mexico um you know illegals pouring

00:38:11.860 in new york city then taking buses upstate i just was watching video of local residents in alisa's

00:38:17.700 district with you know packs of illegals running through you know these are dirt roads and farmers

00:38:23.700 steve i mean it's sort of a crazy situation um up on the border so it's really happening everywhere

00:38:28.740 and it's a total collapse of our sovereignty that's another thing i mean the debt ceiling is one big

00:38:34.260 issue see but you've got multiple you've got this crime crisis you've got the illegal immigration

00:38:38.980 crisis which is fuels the crime crisis you've got this debt issue and then you've got this energy

00:38:43.940 situation with energy costs and the fact that democrats have walked the plank they've taken

00:38:48.500 this brutal vote opposing hr1 and you've got some districts new mexico um you know other areas alaska

00:38:54.660 where energy is critical and you i mean it's very surprising to see them vote against domestic energy so

00:38:59.780 all of these critical wedge issues that i know the posse is going to kind of dig in on as we gear up in

00:39:04.340 2024 and you know it's very ripe for our side i mean this border stuff is getting out of control and

00:39:10.580 more and more voters are learning about it and figuring out what's going on and it's getting

00:39:14.500 completely out of control look maggot turned out uh to deliver this house uh you know the 10 12 seats

00:39:21.700 we picked up to give us the what five seat majority um it we have and we have our nose rubbed in every day

00:39:29.460 of how you know new york state would provide at least an incredible job but they're rubbing our nose in

00:39:34.660 that all those all those seats are going to swing back and they're going to swing back because you

00:39:40.500 have this ultra mega you know group in congress what's your sense right now with energy with border

00:39:47.220 with crime what's your sense right now of these swing seats that are so essential to keep in new

00:39:52.820 york state are we in good shape we feel like we're in great shape in new york there's nine competitive

00:39:59.460 seats eight of them are defense one is a very clear offensive probably in hudson valley it's the

00:40:04.820 top 10 seat across the country you know i think last cycle we really talked about like this very

00:40:09.540 very big map and you know this time a lot of the word at the top of the party is let's really really

00:40:15.140 dig in this thing's going to be a knife fight over you know few seats due to redistricting due to other

00:40:19.860 factors obviously there's sort of less quote-unquote competitive seats as we see it now so

00:40:24.900 some of these seats it's going to be like more spending more energy more efforts than you've ever

00:40:29.940 seen before i think a key thing that we talked about the last time i was on the show steve is

00:40:34.740 look we really need to get out there our folks need to be talking to independents traditional

00:40:39.140 democrats soft democrats we call them spreading our message on the border crisis the debt ceiling

00:40:43.620 educating voters on early in-person voting ballot harvesting all these initiatives i mean

00:40:48.980 one of the biggest things we've just launched with the lease is this battleground fund

00:40:52.580 where all we're going to be doing is ballot harvesting and different things like that

00:40:56.180 in new york state um because that's critical steve if we don't get on board with getting boats banked

00:41:01.860 we are done so we're going to be upping our budget across national republicans in general for those

00:41:07.540 type of efforts by like thousands of percentage points in terms of how we're going to be spending

00:41:12.180 money across the board so there's a lot of big news kind of going out on that front and the key is

00:41:16.980 for everyone is you know mag is all in i mean we're looking in the weeds we understand the debt ceiling

00:41:22.420 but getting out there and sort of educating these swing voters independent voters democrats because

00:41:27.540 once they know the facts they frankly are on our side i mean people understand we can't write a blank

00:41:32.580 check for joe biden i mean it's a disaster they understand how much we're paying a gas 90 percent

00:41:37.380 of americans in the polling steve want to increase domestic traditional energy i mean 90 percent i mean

00:41:43.300 there's no better issue polling wise and you've got democrats in areas where you've got massive energy

00:41:48.740 jobs colorado new mexico alaska and they vote against reducing the permitting process i mean

00:41:54.180 those are thousands of jobs these people can't help themselves and you know this ultra mega thing is a

00:42:00.260 scam i mean all they're trying to do is juice their own turnout which they frankly did do successfully and

00:42:05.780 i think that was an issue we had you know turning out the democrats i mean they came out and drove just

00:42:10.260 like we did so we need to be prepared for that and the way to cut their numbers down is by bringing

00:42:14.900 independence and cutting through the noise with the issue set that we need to deliver i would say

00:42:20.660 last question if uh biden you see all the political story if biden because there's some voices in

00:42:25.220 biden's white house are telling him play hardball now your whole presidency rides on this just come

00:42:29.860 back and say no it's got to be clean or nothing do you think that galvanizes uh the mega forces in

00:42:36.980 the house to get the moderates on board that we got to be tougher here that we tried to meet them

00:42:41.460 halfway you try to accommodate uh you just got to put up in your face do you think a biden rejection

00:42:48.100 of this offer from the house will actually empower the freedom caucus and more of the mega elements to

00:42:55.140 convince some of these moderates that hey you can't you can't these guys are are never going to be

00:43:00.980 straightforward in this and we got to play hardball i think i think you're going to see some of that but i

00:43:07.540 think the key is going to be like the ball i mean i guess we'll have to see i mean the ball really in

00:43:12.500 their court i mean we we did our job in the house i mean we've got a bill passed that you know cut

00:43:17.300 spending massively does you know this and that but speaker mccarthy said himself this is just the

00:43:22.340 beginning i mean i believe they've read reporting although i don't know for sure they promised a

00:43:26.420 ballot budget amendment i think that was i read that in regards to nancy mace and some other things so

00:43:31.540 this is just the start of like you said a total gunfight through 2024 and momentum's on our side

00:43:37.780 in the polling where voters know that we need to substantially cut the government i mean you don't

00:43:42.660 see that often over the last 10 to 20 years where people want to slash government right now they do and

00:43:49.140 so i think that's why you've got the momentum on our side whether it's mega moderates everyone's

00:43:54.180 somewhat together like congressman biggs was saying while he didn't agree with the bill it's you know

00:43:58.420 the people like chip roy other conservatives that have worked on it um you know it's sort

00:44:02.740 of a good starting point obviously now whether there's another bill or things like that i'm not

00:44:07.060 sure but reality is we did our job ultimately as house republicans and now joe biden needs to come

00:44:12.660 back i mean i don't think the american people are going to accept uh him not doing anything i mean

00:44:17.380 ultimately they will implode in the polls they will have to do something so it will be very interesting

00:44:22.900 to see how that plays out because i do think you're going to see movement in the senate

00:44:26.180 you're seeing mansion maybe cinema some other folks that are going to say we need to do something

00:44:30.900 so maybe there's a bill that moves in the senate then they're cut loose just like that crime bill

00:44:36.580 steve which is not to go on another tangent but that crime bill we're seeing is one of the top

00:44:40.660 polling issues i mean the biden white house said don't vote for that republican bill to override dc's

00:44:46.500 crime bill dc which is a total hellhole then they broke in the house they've broken the senate now

00:44:51.460 they you know then they had you know they the biden people signed it right biden signed it so

00:44:56.820 that they don't have a handle on the basic facts and that's how this is playing out so it's going

00:45:00.500 to be really interesting but i'm not sure about another bill or things like different things like

00:45:04.980 that i think in the future they'll have to be another one obviously but in the short term i'm not sure

00:45:09.780 uh alex how do people follow you on social media how they get to the website over at team and lease

00:45:14.020 to get more of the information all the stuff you're working on well lee stefanik.com is a good place to start and then

00:45:20.180 i'm on twitter digrass 81 getter at digrass truth and all of it appreciate everyone but the key

00:45:25.700 everyone is find your 510 independence start now educating them on our issue set and getting the

00:45:31.780 word out because that's what's going to make the difference and get them to the polls early okay

00:45:35.860 alex digrass thank you very much honor to have you on here

00:45:41.220 nicole new federal state uh listen i'm i'm tomorrow we're gonna have jane zirko and i'm gonna go

00:45:46.020 that we're gonna break down this uh the the the uh michelle uh the pros michelle case where he's

00:45:53.060 guilty on all charges 100 million dollars trying to get miles go out we're gonna get to that there's

00:45:56.900 all types of uh rumors out there about an information coming about miles and what's happening i want to

00:46:02.100 get to that tomorrow i do want to focus on today something quite powerful because the new federal

00:46:07.540 state's done a tremendous job over capitol hill of educating congressmen about what the reality is of

00:46:13.620 the chinese communist party and what they're trying to do not just to miles's followers and people

00:46:18.820 like yourself the new federal state which is at the tip of the spear of combating the uh the chinese

00:46:24.180 communist party but what they're doing with chinese nationals in america can you walk through this

00:46:28.580 amazing letter that's that's been sent over to christopher ray at the fbi ma'am yeah so i just happened

00:46:35.460 to see this letter uh drafted by mike gallagher chairman of the committee on the ccp and this letter was

00:46:42.340 sponsored by supported by 12 uh lawmakers congressman or woman in the um in the house including neil dunn

00:46:51.620 michelle steele and jim banks i i applaud this letter basically this letter is demanding answers

00:46:58.660 from the fbi about when did they become and how did they become aware of the ccp's rampant

00:47:06.100 uh law enforcement which is illegal totally illegal on the u.s soil and according to the letter you know

00:47:14.100 it's actually a human rights group called defenders uh reports first broke the news about uh the discovery

00:47:22.580 over 100 more than 100 ccp's uh overseas uh police station spread all over the world including uh one in

00:47:32.260 new york city so that report uh broke the news back in september last year and in february members

00:47:40.740 of the congress wrote a letter to the fbi demanding their investigation and then the fbi awaited until

00:47:48.980 october last year to issue the search uh the search of that of a location in lower manhattan and the

00:47:57.700 arrest announcement just came in uh days ago so basically these lawmakers are demanding the fbi to

00:48:05.140 answer you know basically the oversight uh issue because we know we all know fbi's job is to identify

00:48:14.020 and monitor the threats before they became a harm to the to the community and now they're relying on the

00:48:20.900 public source information and start acting only upon everybody has been aware of the threat here's

00:48:28.420 here's what i understand miles and we know this miles was you know had fbi people working with him

00:48:35.220 from the very beginning time he got to the united states he was very upfront he had come on war room

00:48:40.420 years ago i had been on his show years ago he used to talk about this one of the key elements the

00:48:45.460 ministry of state security would threaten chinese nationals here particularly the anti-ccp with

00:48:52.020 problems with their families back home how did the fbi in your belief had the fbi miss something that's

00:48:58.420 out there in broad daylight and now it's going to be a huge thing because these congressmen we've checked

00:49:03.380 with some of the staffs they're very they're outraged that this was allowed to go on and only now

00:49:08.260 the fbi's moved on it any thoughts on that ma'am yeah it's very disturbing because as a chinese

00:49:14.740 american who have been living in this country for over 20 years i've seen very similar um ccp police

00:49:21.540 station or ccp front organization across the united states of america and you know ranging from the

00:49:28.340 east coast to west coast or from la to san francisco to chicago to houston and all over the places and why

00:49:36.420 they're only making arrests in new york city and so this is deeply troubling because the chinese

00:49:43.300 american people are the biggest victim of the ccp's police station and that's why the people who are

00:49:49.300 living in this country i have a lot of chinese american friends they are afraid of speaking truth

00:49:54.580 to the power they are afraid of coming to the camera and to expose the ccp's uh illegal activities

00:50:02.420 because they're being held um as hostage of you know by the ccp's uh secret police station on the u.s soil

00:50:09.620 and usually um you know the chinese american people have their loved ones back in china

00:50:14.580 and the ccp police station will start making harassment against their loved ones back in china

00:50:19.780 and but the most important thing these illegal ccp's front organization or united front or organization

00:50:27.620 they do not just spy on the chinese dissidents they're getting involved into the local politics

00:50:33.300 remember eric swawa i mean his campaign was was helped by fan fan who is a ccp spy and also the

00:50:41.540 ccp police station in new york they put together fundraising activities for the local politicians

00:50:47.300 and we heard from the news chuck schumer and mayor uh um eric adams returned the money they they got from

00:50:54.660 the ccp police stations operative they returned the money and so there's so many things that we need to

00:51:03.300 i i like to you know demand more actions leo dicaprio said in the trial that jolo who's an agent of the

00:51:12.020 chinese communist party and they helped him steal the money talked about putting 40 million dollars

00:51:16.900 into the democratic party 40 million dollars to basically get more activity of the chinese

00:51:21.460 communist party nicole we're going to be back on tomorrow i want to talk about all this update

00:51:25.460 on miles particularly what we're hearing out of mainland china what she action she's taking

00:51:29.700 up till then how do people get to you how they get to new federal state how they get to your news

00:51:34.580 program how they get to you uh follow our website nfseofficial.com and also our twitter handler is

00:51:43.060 nfsc speak and getter nfsc speaks i mean there's so much to talk about the press michelle case because

00:51:49.380 this is a story that has been suppressed and censored by the mainstream media and american people needs to

00:51:55.140 know the truth because you deserve to know the truth of why mr moscow ccp enemy number one is

00:52:00.980 behind the bar this is not about his personal individual liberty this is about your country's

00:52:05.940 justice system that has been weaponized by the ccp thank you so much for having me today amen truer

00:52:11.940 words have never been spoken miles go is the first guy to come here in this country and warn us about

00:52:15.940 the ccp specifically this is not about china it's not about live by jang it's not about the chinese people

00:52:21.140 they're not the enemy of our country the chinese communist party is the enemy of the chinese people

00:52:26.020 and they're the enemy of the american people nicole thank you very much thank you you show heroism

00:52:32.100 every day by doing this so thank you very much for joining us we'll be back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m

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Bannon's War Room - April 28, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 282： Millions Still Heading Towards Border Waiting For Title 42 To Be Lifted

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