WarRoom Battleground EP 286： A Sit Down With Bishop Athanasius Schneider
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In this episode of The Six Oclock War Room, we have a very special guest, a true spiritual leader in the 21st century, Bishop Konrad Schneider of Khazakhstan, a man of such humility, wisdom, and love of the truth, who has been a spiritual leader for many centuries.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations that's
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why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon it's thursday 4 may in the year of our lord 2023 welcome uh to our six o'clock war
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room a battleground uh i want to tell everybody you know this is the first time i think we've been
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doing the battleground now for over two years the show's in its fourth year but overall the six o'clock
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hour is two years and this is the first time i've ever done an interview or discussion uh with just
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one camera i think jack basobiec did one one time in two years with his wife for this first time
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and the reason is a very special guest uh we got so many great compliments of the conversation we
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had with president trump and mar-a-lago that very fortunate to have one of my favorite people in a
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true spiritual leader in the 21st century bishop schneider of uh of kazakhstan the and we're going to
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go into your histories for particularly some of the audience that doesn't know it in a minute but
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a man of uh of such humility you know all the newspaper articles about you humility obedience
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uh kindly why are you considered uh a radical and in a in a troublemaker in the modern catholic church
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well it is i do nothing extraordinary i am just trying to speak the truth the truth of christ
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the truth the truth of the church which the church taught since the apostles and all the ages
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which the church simply preached i'm do nothing else i'm do nothing inventing new things just
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preach try to preach the truth of christ and it is uh symptomatic when you just speak the truth of
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christ and of the faith of all ages that you are labeled as a troublemaker who disturbs
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peace and so on but we have you you you you're more than a troublemaker aren't aren't they aren't
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you actually considered someone that may actually lead the church into a a schism no this i think
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that's a false accusation this is a false accusation and really i was not accused by serious people
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of this just the media types yes there is no ground for this because schism is when the bishop
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publicly declares himself independent from the pope i am do the contrary i am always saying people
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let us pray for the pope i mentioned him publicly in the prayers even though i express my
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admonitions reverently sometimes addressing the pope to clarify his statements inviting him
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to preach again clearly the truth of christ for the sake for the good of the faithful
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and of the entire world because this is the deepest desire of every human being to know the truth
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and to be strengthened in the truth the truth brings us true liberty and so these are these are the
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words of jesus christ and therefore uh i am actually doing all what i can to help the pope
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not to separate me from the pope to help him as a bishop i am i have the task the duty
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to help the pope i am a brother of the pope i am not an employee of the pope and therefore
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i can express to him reverently uh my concerns and in this way i am helping him as it did for the first time
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saint paul uh with saint peter saint peter was the head of the church placed by our lord jesus christ
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and he was actually the first pope and when peter acted in antioquia in a ambiguous way undermining the
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clarity of the truth in his behavior with the jewish christians and with the new converted christians
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so undermining the clarity of the gospel saint paul publicly uh uh corrected him admonished him and
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saying to him you are not going the the path of the truth of the gospel and then peter was so humble
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the pope to thank him that he did this and as in the same spirit i am doing this and this did also other
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in history even saints and this is a part uh in my opinion of a true catholic life to help another
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uh to keep the fidelity to god's worth to the truth let's talk about um two events in the 20th century
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that were very formative to you one is the wars and oppression of the nazis and the and the and the bolsheviks
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and the soviet union talk to us about your family and about the handing down this great um love of the uh traditional mass
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the traditional church and then i want to talk about vatican ii that came into the second part of that
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that is something i know that you have been constantly saying hey we've got to review this
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so let's talk first about your family about in particularly how this faith was handed down
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in your family and to you yes i i had a great grace of god to be born in a true catholic family
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in we belong to the so-called german russian germans better say so who lived in the russian empire
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since the 19th century in german villages and then stalin started the terror under the name of the
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human friendly communism so they styled in the time of stalin human friendly communism
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in the 30s and so there are the dark terror years 1936 37 and stalin killed millions of own people
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simply to eliminate potential potential potential enemies of the regime of the ideology not only the
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regime but the ideology and these were intelligent people who still use their own intellect and reason
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who did not allow to be brainwashed it's very important to resist it to brainwashing
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from the mainstream media from the opinion of public opinion even in the there in those years in the
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trend in the 30s and so the second category you're saying the catholics in the in the in the church
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were resistance or formed a resistance to the marxist the atheist marxist to be brainwashed yes
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not only the catholics but simple uh honest uh people who intelligent people so they were on the list
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to be killed that second category the priests of course and the third category wealthy people and so
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my my grandfather he was killed when he was 27 year old a young man my grandmother she remained she
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was a widow with 25 year old and she remained a widow my father and his brother were two little children
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so we experienced this so-called friendly communism and in that time where my father was killed my
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my grandfather was killed in others and the so-called human friendly communism stalin promoted a song
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which was saying more or less i do not know another country in the world
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where people can breathe so freely and these were these horror years and we have to state this because
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we are in some way approaching in our time similar phenomenon that people say we are free we are
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democratic and but in the same time repress any intelligent honest thought so only to remark this and so i'm
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in these horrible circumstances i am my parents transmitted then to us children the catholic faith
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in the underground church so-called and my parents were very active
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in the underground church helping to organize holy masses prayers and hiding priests and so in this why
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why did priests have to be hidden because if they were not hidden they'd be executed or sent to a labor
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camp the priests were persecuted they were forbidden to celebrate mass let us say and so but they did it
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because for the for the sake for the people to to have sacraments to have worship and so my parents
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helped the priests to hide them otherwise they would be imprisoned or to the gulags sent and so
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i in some way i took this faith in these difficult situations in my since my childhood and this
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and i am grateful to the lord for this experience in my life and in these circumstances we we celebrated
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the priests of course the traditional liturgy it was in the 50s in the 60s in the beginning of the 70s
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still the reverent liturgy of all ages which all the saints celebrated we which we now call as you
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mentioned the traditional form of let of the latin mass and in this i grew up and this mass celebrated
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the marty priests whom i have known whom my parents helped to hide and this is how how hard was it
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even to get to mass and to get to holy communion or to have a confession heard when you were a small
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boy coming out how difficult it was for example in kyrgyzstan we lived there were no priests
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and they came in the whole country in the whole country no and they came sometimes secretly
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or there was an old priest who was already very controlled by the government he could not
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travel and other younger priests they came from lithuania or from other to help the germans
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there were many german catholics in kyrgyzstan and so we suddenly appeared to priests let us say
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it was a joy for us then we had to prepare very carefully the holy mass the the confessions
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during the night during the entire night we closed the doors
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and in first in one house with smaller part of people then he had to wear to go to another house
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secretly and so we managed this to have these sacraments or for example on christmas i remember
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we had no priests for christmas day christmas day was a day of to work and to go to school
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but on the eve in the night we gathered in our house my parents organized a worship
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for the catholics to really to to to have a holy night christmas as a christians and we could do this
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it was not allowed but thanks be to god our neighbor was the main policeman of the city
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and he was a good man he was a russian and he was a friend of my my father and our family and so
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on the 24th of december my father said to him anatoly it was his name you know we are christians we
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have to celebrate this night the holy night christmas but he answered you know it is not allowed by the
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law you cannot do this but i give you the guarantee this night no police will come pray so even in dark
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times god's goodness gives us consolation you said uh stalin put out and particularly to the west
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that communism was friendly it was family oriented it was community oriented obviously it was it was a
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murderous regime but you said we have to worry about that today is is the neo-marxism you see
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throughout the world today particularly among the world's intellectuals and uh what i call the globalist
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is is that as insidious as the marxism you grew up under yes without doubt i have i was brainwashed
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with the communist ideology five years in a soviet school i know what does mean brainwashing
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as as as a as a young boy yes five years in the school and so we had continuously these slogans these
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of communist ideology to repeat and then all the newspapers repeated the same all the the radio
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programs the television programs even even always the same so it was orchestrated directed in
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non-direction and this is now happening you see in the in the western world it is for me so similar to my
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experience it is a vet union we have the main stream media they are all orchestrated only one direction they have
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their own um ideological uh items to repeat them and slogans really day and night brainwashing
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the entire population this is serious we have to awaken and we have to resist the tragedy is
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that in history when forms of dictatorship or of totalitarianism came there was a lack of resistance
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the majority uh the majority simply they went with the tide and therefore i think it's it is time
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to stand up and said no we do not want to be brainwashed and our children with all these mainstream
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slogans all the day and today is this and then the phenomenons so this is the first that one way
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thinking only and when you start to question these slogans let us say the
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uh gender ideology and so on then you are labeled as an enemy or as a as hate hate speech
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and so it was in the soviet union for example when someone questioned these slogans of communism
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then he was labeled as the enemy of the people the russians said vrak naroda this was so common to my
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ears in this time during this those times and so today they say you are guilty of hatred speech
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for example when you say the simple evident common sense reality that a man is a man a woman is a woman
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you are labeled as an enemy basically so this is neo-communism neo-marxism a pure and then the other
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phenomenon let us say the because what does mean marxism communism we have to again to read marx and engels
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and marx and engels stated already in the 19th century that our goal is the communism communism means
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equality perfect equality without any differences in the society no classes no differences
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and so they said the historical moment will be the on the economical level and on the ideology ideological
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level and then engels and marx wrote that our goal is the ultimate phase of communism will be
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when we will reach a communism in the matters of marriage and family this is the last fortress
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the family which is the enemy of marxism and communism these set angles so therefore we have to work
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to eliminate the differences in the differences in family so therefore we have to to take over the family and now you see
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we are in in the midst of these of these phenomenons in the western society political those powerful elites promote all over the world
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these last period period and face of neo-marxism to destroy really family and to destroy family they started
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promoting the gender ideology let us say and other transsexual so to eliminate every only
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all what is natural given by the creator and basically the root of this is atheism because
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marx and engels and lenin they created this expression the so-called scientific atheism
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atheism i had lessons in the school at atheism scientific atheism scientific atheism so
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because the root of all the the the last root of communism marxism is atheism so there is no god
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a scientific atheism yes yes exactly and now we are the same now the
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the gender ideology in the in order transgender this is a kind of atheism why because it is
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simply denying reality denying evidence denying creation denying the creator and not only denying insulting him
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the creator and saying we create another thing better than you
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we create a transgender being and we can change what we want god gave us the tooth sexes this beauty
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and the atheism says this is not beauty we create another thing and this insult this revolt against the
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creator this creates ugliness this creates a society of ugliness and this was communism
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i saw this and now we are going to this last probably last
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how given the church um with the lessons of john paul ii and benedict the church was one of the
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foundational elements that stood up even in an underground church way
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to the communists and so when ronald reagan and thatcher and the political types came along the
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church particularly in eastern europe in the underground church in the soviet union
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was there with a strong foundation in fact become stronger because of the the persecutions like the first century christians
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how has the church in the 21st century not taken those lessons
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because from from a layman's perspective it doesn't look like the church is at the
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tip of the spear in this fight today against neo-marxism it looks like and what you're just discussing it
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looks like in many of the cases they're either acquiescing to looking the other way or trying to accommodate
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very good you mentioned this and we have to state
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sadly that now in the 21st century the majority of the leadership of the catholic church or those
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let us say high-ranking church men even in the vatican they are collaborating with the ruling
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world party of neo-marxism concretely speak the globalism
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to impose to the entire globe only one way of thinking
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this is in various ways you know the climate change ideology then the gender ideology and
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is the climate change ideology essentially a pagan almost a pagan religion of course
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this is a pagan religion form to elevate earth and matter to a kind of godhead and to the detriment
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of the true dignity of human being of his rights to live in a dignified way so to sacrifice human being
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to the well-being let us say of earth of climate and so on so this is true
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and no and now we have to state this that unfortunately
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the current majority of the leadership in the catholic church those in high power in the in the church
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they are collaborating and not only being silent but collaborating actively with all the main
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items and slogans and ideologies of the current neo-marxist movement of the political elites as i mentioned
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these topics especially the gender ideology the end the equality of all religions let us say this means
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basically to the to abolish truth himself itself so when you say all religions are basically equal you can choose
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like in a supermarket and let us only be nice and so therefore you basically abolish truth
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and to abolish truth it is against human being it's against the dignity of human being because
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as we started to speak every human being has a deeply desire to know the truth
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and to be instructed in the truth and to live the truth and this did the church during 2000 years
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christ jesus christ the incarnate god the truth himself and this is our task
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to bring to the people with love with respect of course all the beauty of the truth and this truth
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of his creation of the creation of man and of the revelation of god will bring true happiness
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to man in our time and therefore we have to make a coalition an alliance
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at least of all good people of common sense all over the world of a good will and who love
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holistically truly the truth let us take a uh a short commercial break we're going to return
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with his excellency bishop schneider of kazakhstan in the war room or as the bishop says the war house
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will we will we will be back in uh in just a moment
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war room battleground with stephen k bannon with his excellency bishop schneider of um of kazakhstan from
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a uh from a german family that was living in eurasia for many many decades bishop how is it that we've
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gotten to the situation where neo-marxism or this type of radical atheism is now what the globalists
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is kind of their their ideology along with these kind of pagan cults that they come up with like
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um um you know the climate the whole climate initiative talking about mother earth and other
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material uh aspects or material gods in the 19th century the church had some great intellectuals
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and particularly popes who who looked into the 20th century and saw what was coming with modernity
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with with with modern times and nietzsche at the same time talked about that as the uh as the will
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to power but the the the popes came up with what they called the syllabus of errors and if you look at
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it they were right about exactly what was going to happen so how did the church understanding and having
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that passed down through the two great wars post-war uh and having been right about what was going to happen
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how and the syllabus of errors and the oath against modernity all that being an active part of the
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priesthood and the training of priests and then seminaries how did we get to a situation where you
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then had vatican ii and not just all the radical changes of vatican ii but then you had this at the
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very end i think is it synod which is now this senality that and i consider myself being a harvard graduate
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although in the business school the trade school and from georgetown when it was a catholic university
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i can't even understand when i read what they're talking about it all just sounds like mumbo jumbo
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so so how did we go from actually predicting what was going to happen saying that you had to stay
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with the traditional church to avoid it having that faith and then having vatican ii and now having
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this this i don't know this kind of bishop's ongoing bishop's conversation or conference that's led us to this
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point today that it looks like a vast majority or a certain majority of the leadership of the church
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it accommodates the neo-marxism this is the tragedy of i would say vatican ii in our in in the following
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time that as you mentioned the church in the 19th century with pious the nines with the syllabus and
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then leo the 13th with his great encyclicals they want at the church of the poisons spiritual poisons of the
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modern age which is basically to replace god so to put on the place of god man this is basically the
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spirit of the spirit of the french revolution and of the spirit of rationalism in the 19th century then
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and the church wisely and motherly opposed this and said we have to warn against this we cannot and
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the consequences which will be when human being places himself in the place of god then will come an
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anarchy of morality of truth and when this was prophetical predicted by the syllabus already
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and the lay of the 13th and pious the 10th in the beginning of the 20th century saying that this will lead to
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dictatorships this will lead to violence and this were and therefore the consequence of this
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this autonomy of human being from truth and substituting god was we had these horrible
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two two major i think in history dictatorships cruel it was the communist sovietic dictatorship and the nazi
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the nazi it was basically the same unbelieving atheist approach to human life into politics into common good
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and so these of course the the evil is not always coming hundred percent evil they have also some truth
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truth and with this partly truth selective truth they present themselves as benefactors as hitler presented
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himself as a benefactor stalin also interesting they both use this expression i am a benefactor of you my dear
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people and so today the current political leaderships in the world the globalists
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and the elites they present themselves also as benefactors of humanity they they say we know better what is good for you
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and basically transforming that society to a society of slaves slaves not a slave is not thinking independently
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so to cut up cut our independent thinking and so you see and the attempt of vatican ii was to in some way reconcile the church
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with this modern thinking of the french revolution of of these modern values of of a society independent from god
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and yes this is good to address this but in my opinion it was not the true address which did vatican ii
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it adapted in some way partly uh the thinking to some current issues of the modern time of the
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un-christian modern time and this is the relativism saying that the equality all people
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uh all religions basically must have the same rights to spread themselves to express themselves
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and there's a natural right given by god and this is very problematic because there is only one truth
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and god wants that all come to the truth and belief in the savior jesus christ the only way
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to salvation that is not given other and this was a failure in my opinion that the vatican council the second vatican council
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failed to address clearly the errors of the modern time and to warn humanity of not to repeat uh this
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and therefore we had then after the council all these phenomenon of uh degradation the 68th uh sexual
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revolution the marxism this is was already marxism in the universities growing and then after the collapse
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of the soviet union the spreading of the new global neo-marxist movements as we mentioned already
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the the the gender ideology the destroying of family how did how did we and you grew up as a young boy
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how did how did we in the judeo-christian west defeat essentially the soviet union as a political and military
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entity that collapsed and yet we're in the 21st century and we're we're now fighting marxism
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wouldn't that have shown that their underlying ideology was false not just the economics of it
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but the atheism of it and particularly the reason it collapsed was the strength of the faithful who
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would not in the kulaks and the peasants and the workers not the wealthy but the workers who would not
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give up that faith how did that not show that their model doesn't work and how are we 30 and 40 years
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later now infected with a bacillus that is still their ideology exactly thank you for your observation
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this is very correct and and right exactly and uh the root is the atheism so to have a life a society
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as if god does not exist to banish god from all society and this is happening in the last
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even more advancing in all public life in the western countries to eliminate the presence of god of of the
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true religion in society in the school in families and then also this is as we see an advance of atheism
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when when when man is declaring himself god and saying i will now decide what is good for you i will now
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decide who are you who you can be declared a man or a woman i will i will now decide what is basically
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reality itself and this is happening now the political elites those in political power the left wing so and
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they try to impose us their thinking and so to make us slaves and to lead us in basically to a society
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without god and this is atheism and therefore it is necessary for all christians even for all people who
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honestly believe in the creator in god in created in creation and to unite ourselves we have to to make a
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to unite ourselves to resist to this cunning and wild form of atheism and to unmask this as atheism and
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even worse in some way than atheism it is blasphemy to blaspheme god's creation the human being was created
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according to the image of god and the likeness of god what a dignity there is one of the most beautiful
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so you created him wonderful but you restored him in a most wonderful way and this is our hope
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have we have to resist we have to make alliance together
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they had an axiom which we know maybe proletariates of all nations unite
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and so but proletarians so they have no rights
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and we are now witnessing that the political powers in the world
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the left wing powers which are basically dominating
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brainwashed or trained into this ideology of being a proletariat
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and at home obviously had the catholic training to show that this was was false
00:44:36.460
that that could be defeated and would be defeated
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in the judeo-christian west as a dominant theology of of of people that
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materially became better because of the fall of communism
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we lived in the soviet union for us the west was a kind of paradise
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the soviet union was a huge prison in some way we would say
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to sing but in the 70s when we came to the west
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uh the public life was already invaded with immorality
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let us say public display of immorality it was strange for us
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immorality spread in the style of life in the public life
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a couple of months before the communist revolution
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i think we live already in an anti-christian society
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because it just sounds like a bunch of gobbledygook
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is that the lesson that the the institutional church is taking from vatican two as they continue
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to to to to have it seems like a conversation with every religion sect cult in the world
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probably not that what the second vatican council aimed such a mess such a confusion
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it is an abuse of the church powers those who now in who reached high ranking church positions in the vatican
00:49:37.180
they abuse their power to introduce another face
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of religions basically abusing their church powers
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the teaching of christ basically it is we are witnessing a very
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and in my opinion never happened in the history of the church
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that the top of the church are abusing that its power
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your excellency we are out of time but we look forward to the next time you're here i want to
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make sure we go to and uh do you do you know your website often i ask people
00:51:04.060
and you can get the catholic mass which is a magnificent book but the traditional catholic mass
00:51:08.540
one of my favorite photographs on the cover of course christus vincet and you've got all your
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books all of your writings there we'll have it up on the screen and put it up on our on our website
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well uh your excellency thank you for taking the time
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to come by we i can tell you that uh in the war house
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your your our audience is is is uh always honored when you come
00:51:34.060
and god bless you and protect you and all your audience
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thank you your excellency bishop schneider of kazakhstan i want to thank everybody that helped put this together
00:51:44.620
today and we'll be back live tomorrow morning at 10 a.m
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