Bannon's War Room - May 06, 2023


WarRoom Battleground Ep 287: Inflation Continues As Regional Banks Collapse; War On Religion


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

174.88385

Word Count

9,913

Sentence Count

40

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Donald Trump has dropped the key word "Republican" from his vocabulary, and it s time for a new word to replace it with: "Democrat." On today's show, we discuss why this is not a good thing, and why it's time for him to move away from it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:15.960 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:22.960 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
00:00:28.860 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:33.620 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:37.900 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
00:00:44.940 your host stephen k bannon what are you hearing good morning my friends look donald trump i've
00:00:51.120 been traveling with him here these last several months and there's a notable word that we have
00:00:55.120 seen drop from his vocabulary i should say diminish greatly and that's the word republican here when
00:01:00.920 you look at the polling numbers you see him right now on the average over the last several weeks 30
00:01:05.820 points ahead of ron desantis and this harkens back to the campaign strategy of this current operation
00:01:12.960 john allen our colleague and myself had multiple conversations with advisors and allies about what
00:01:18.780 their strategy is going ahead and they are looking to really revert this back to a 2016 campaign
00:01:24.380 one that is separate from the republican party of course donald trump has suggested that he may not
00:01:29.980 sign the loyalty pledge later on this year meaning that there's other republican candidates in this race
00:01:35.820 who he could see himself not supporting if they were to win the nomination he has suggested that he may
00:01:41.740 skip the first republican debates the times you do hear donald trump out on the campaign trail talk about
00:01:47.280 the republican party it's in a disparaging way largely when he's talking about ron desantis he calls him
00:01:53.940 a establishment paul ryan republican you know we had conversations with steve bannon in this piece who
00:01:59.620 says look what is the republican party done for him over the last two years to what extent have they
00:02:04.180 defended him that it's time for him to break away charlie cook or charlie kirk a right-wing provocateur
00:02:10.500 who has a major radio and tv program speaking to sort of grassroots conservatives he made the case
00:02:18.180 that they need to build up a true opposition party and that relying on the republican party in 2024
00:02:24.220 is not going to be good enough for them they need to build a movement not one that is r versus d
00:02:29.640 but one that is really creates an opposition movement i had a conversation with one advisor who told
00:02:35.480 me that this is no longer our verse d they need to look big picture they are the front runners and
00:02:40.120 they are going to win the republican nomination the advisor asserts but they said that they need
00:02:45.100 and there's a reckoning that in 2020 they needed to build a broader electorate one third of the
00:02:51.280 american population over the age of 18 did not vote in the 2020 election and so well yes donald trump
00:02:57.480 faces some headwinds you joe anecdotally have had conversations with folks that are moving away from
00:03:01.840 him i have as well but there is a a reckoning inside of this campaign that they need to build
00:03:08.020 something greater outside of this and they believe that 2016 operation moving away from the republican
00:03:13.200 party is their best opportunity to do so and and small on on the democratic side bobby kennedy jr
00:03:20.700 doing well he's at 19 percent hasn't really gotten that that much out there i mean it's and i'm starting
00:03:29.940 to hear more and more talk about him are we going to actually have a challenge here i'm trying not
00:03:35.140 to laugh joe there's not going to wait can i just can i stop you for a second do you know how many
00:03:42.280 people said the same thing about donald trump in 2015 on this show except the same exact last yes
00:03:49.280 because there was going to be a republican primary but i really think that uh the mealy mouth democrats
00:03:55.280 as i like to call them and some of my progressive friends who would like to live in a fantasy land
00:04:00.840 they need to come back to reality and the reality is this the sitting president of united states of
00:04:05.920 america is a democrat a democrat that would like to run for re-election so much so that he has
00:04:10.900 declared a re-election campaign in that case the democratic national committee will not facilitate
00:04:15.880 a primary process there will be no debate stage for bobby kennedy marine marianne williamson or anyone
00:04:21.900 else so we're going to have another bobby kennedy in an empty chair in the debate right there will
00:04:26.660 be no debate yeah no debate the democratic national committee administers the debates and they're not
00:04:31.260 going to set up a primary process for debates to for someone to challenge the head of the democratic
00:04:36.820 party david a lot of democrats concerned about joe biden they they may not be saying it in front of
00:04:42.420 the television camera but man get those cameras off and they're all like oh are we going to make it
00:04:47.920 through the next stage what are we going to uh what what do you think is this just is this what
00:04:52.340 democrats do best so is as obama team said they're bedwetting uh bedwetting democrats
00:04:58.200 strong suit but you know that we we do you know fret things through a bit the reality is as simone says
00:05:11.900 joe biden is going to be the candidate joe biden has a great record to run on yeah and joe biden's going
00:05:17.380 to be running against somebody terrible i don't know whether it's donald trump or ron de santis
00:05:21.940 or you know mike i'm sorry everyone laughed when donald trump went down that escalator and it is not
00:05:28.780 over with trump that that's true but as far as bobby kennedy goes you know it you know he's not going
00:05:34.740 to have 18 by the time a primary rolls around he's the steve bannon candidate on the democratic side
00:05:41.400 of the ticket because steve bannon has backed his candidacy and the question is is he on the ballot
00:05:47.200 in states across the country i think sometimes people forget that there is a very technical
00:05:51.240 process when it comes to uh getting on a ballot and so is bobby kennedy uh you know is steve bannon
00:05:58.700 bankrolling his ballot access we don't know but i would venture to say not mika's point though is very
00:06:04.920 important and i mean amy has the data i read it every week honey i'm subscribed a super subscribe
00:06:09.280 and i would just say that it would be a mistake for democrats not to invest early in this race
00:06:18.000 because it is not a foregone conclusion that joe biden is winning re-election there are questions
00:06:21.740 with young voters questions with uh black voters latino voters um we you cannot believe that folks
00:06:28.080 are just going to come back out because the other part the guy on the ticket on the other side
00:06:32.620 or the woman is a republican i i've got to go they're telling me is he fit to be president of
00:06:39.980 the united states is donald trump fit to be president uh what this is the way i'll answer that or i'll go
00:06:45.180 which is if you believe in his policies he's the last what what he's advertising is his policies he's
00:06:52.120 the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them he does not have the discipline
00:06:58.580 he does not have the ability for strategic thinking and linear thinking or setting priorities
00:07:04.840 uh or how to get things done in the system it is a horror show when he's when you know when he's left
00:07:12.900 to his own devices and and so you may want his policies but trump will not deliver trump policies he
00:07:20.660 will deliver chaos and if anything lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back
00:07:28.300 than they otherwise would be friday 5 may year of our lord 2023 i want to bring you dr peter navarro we
00:07:35.840 have a lot of capital markets and economics to go through but i i've got to start with the politics
00:07:40.620 probably nobody on a working level knows knows president trump better than his manufacturing and
00:07:47.760 trades are dr peter navarro uh dr navarro let's start with the top there's a report out i'm quoted in it
00:07:55.980 charlie kirk others that president trump's uh reverting back to the trump of 15 and 16 as the
00:08:03.560 outsider taking on the system and quite frankly the republican party's just getting in the way of
00:08:08.240 that he's got the republican voters the mega voters are republican primary voters your thoughts and
00:08:13.300 assessments sir all right well let's first start with when you play those cold opens you guys like
00:08:21.060 throwing red meat at me right it's like when mika and joe are the same people on the msnbc set that
00:08:30.120 tells you a lot i mean those people are freaking idiots if they think that robert f kennedy jr last
00:08:38.040 time i looked at kennedy as a last name who was the son of one of the most important political figures in
00:08:43.820 history bobby kenny they don't think he's going to give joe biden a run for his money and push that 19
00:08:51.200 up as it goes the other thing about that that whole interplay there the idea no debates no nothing i mean
00:08:58.980 don't you remember all of the the conflicts we had in presidential campaigns where where
00:09:05.820 eugene mccarthy challenges yeah it's like it my head's exploding these people are fascists
00:09:12.680 at the end of the day all right and then you throw me bill bar come on bill i look bill bar
00:09:20.080 is nothing but a white shoe rhino republican that's trying to take down trump and the fact that
00:09:26.860 the geraldo of course is interviewing no surprise there the trump strategy is clear if you're going
00:09:34.360 to win a presidential race in today's uh environment you got to get two things besides republicans you got
00:09:40.740 you got to get independence and you got again reagan trump democrats which is the blue collar
00:09:47.080 american manufacturing workers that put reagan in office and that put trump in office in 2016
00:09:54.800 and why yeah why would trump sign a loyalty pledge when he knows damn well that most of the people who
00:10:03.420 control now the republican party today will stick him in the back every chance they get so what trump
00:10:11.120 is going to do and i think he had a look steve i don't know who that guy was ran that 2016 campaign
00:10:17.080 for trump he was a freaking genius because he got trump to you know run right to the independents
00:10:22.600 run right to the reagan democrats and he won that race in a race that nobody thought happened so
00:10:29.140 this is just this is politics you know this the thing is like run run to the right in the primaries
00:10:35.980 or left if you're a democrat run to the middle in the general trump is treating this as a general
00:10:42.200 election he's going for the median voter that's not a republican that's not a democrat it's an
00:10:47.660 independent and and a a trump blue collar democrat sir
00:10:52.880 i want you to go back before i go to the economics capital markets i want you to go back to this
00:10:59.520 thing about debates in the the democratic party and you saw right there they're they're shut down
00:11:04.840 the guys at 21 percent out of the box at 21 percent higher than the santas with no money and kind of you
00:11:12.980 know running on a still to be formed platform just on it's not even charisma he just knows how to take
00:11:18.540 down the administrative state he's all over the administrative state non-stop yeah they're sitting there going
00:11:22.720 no debate it's over on the republican side you have a guy that's been president united states
00:11:28.040 commander in chief yes one the second time it had stolen from him because rnc because rnc wasn't on top
00:11:33.700 of things and they're announcing with your good buddy dave bossy 10 count them brother 10 primary
00:11:41.640 debates sir your thoughts yeah well it's like these people on that set i mean they are freaking idiots
00:11:49.560 i've never heard in an african-american woman really talking that kind of smack about fascism and not
00:11:57.900 let people have their voice i mean can you imagine if the if the ghost of robert f kennedy were sitting
00:12:04.160 there on that set watching that woman i mean you know what he would say to her i'll say the same damn thing
00:12:10.240 it's like you're you're just that's fascism flat out and and look if trump is not going to debates
00:12:18.640 that woman is going to get on the same set and criticize him even though as you point out steve
00:12:24.640 that's the former president who's running way ahead and all these guys all he looks forward to in these
00:12:31.160 debates is having the lily push-ins try to stick pins in them based on the money they get from the from
00:12:38.080 the globalist wall street hedge fund liberal democrat steve schwartzman leary thinks of this
00:12:44.860 world the club for growth you want to take him down why should he bother and he's not going to
00:12:50.740 bother he shouldn't bother and that's that's just it's just straight politics what we've got to do
00:12:56.960 steve look you know i'm talking to people in in the trump world there and they're like hey he's
00:13:03.540 way up in the polls this and the other thing it's like i don't care what the national polls say flat
00:13:09.560 out i do not care i could give a wits what about that what i care about is the battleground states
00:13:16.480 we got to win arizona we got to win georgia we got to win wisconsin michigan and pennsylvania and if
00:13:23.480 we don't win four out of those five states we don't win the election so we have to think strategically
00:13:29.820 about how to approach that and what our message is going to be and we've got to just be very
00:13:35.760 tenacious about that and president trump i think is going to do that but i'm hoping that everybody
00:13:41.780 around him doesn't get sucked into this national poll game because that ain't what it's about it's
00:13:47.260 about women they call them a battleground states for a reason they call this show war room battleground
00:13:53.000 for a reason dr navar give us your assessment uh after through this week
00:13:59.820 you've been the first one to call stagflation you've been the first one to say hey i think
00:14:04.340 we have a massive problem in commercial real estate and commercial real estate is tied to regional banks
00:14:08.560 a great piece in today's telegraph daily telegraph out of london saying hey we don't care what the
00:14:15.440 federal reserve says we don't care what jamie diamond says we're at the beginning of a banking crisis
00:14:22.280 and it just ain't in the united states this contagion's already spread to europe your thoughts sir
00:14:28.380 well it's not just the banking crisis it's also this crisis in commercial real estate which is a
00:14:35.560 ticking time bomb which is the result of these these these large structural shifts in how labor markets
00:14:43.240 and business works this the pandemic basically created a world in which now remote work is possible
00:14:50.100 and commercial office buildings are bleeding um what i did uh today at the first peter navarro dot
00:14:57.040 substack.com um i'm going to once a week and hopefully share with you every week on the show
00:15:03.160 on friday and saturday i'm going to issue my weekly market wrap and economic analysis and kind of try to
00:15:11.160 provide this big picture because it's we've got a schism here steve between wall street and main street
00:15:17.240 which is growing by the day i mean the market had a very significant rally today because corporate
00:15:24.260 earnings are above expectations uh things don't appear quite as bad as we thought they were and
00:15:31.880 meanwhile we've got this border invasion going on and it's showing up in the data that that particularly
00:15:38.960 black brown and blue collar americans are just getting hammered by a combination of inflation eroding their
00:15:46.420 wages and two million additional entrants at the lower end of the labor market pushing down wages and
00:15:53.920 driving americans out of the job job market my own view is it's a recession and a market crash
00:16:02.520 is inevitable but it's but it's over the horizon at this point because all of these things are
00:16:09.820 macro things are very slow moving events until they aren't so what we what you do beautifully in
00:16:17.780 this show steve is you point these things out like a good old ex-goldman sachs guy months and months and
00:16:24.160 months before cnbc and fox business even get a whiff of it and we watch these things and that's what
00:16:31.360 we're watching now and there's definitely i i in in some ways politically um i hate to even say this
00:16:38.320 because somebody will misquote me on this but it's better to have the crash uh further out towards
00:16:44.720 the election than now because what we need to do is take over the white house and the congress
00:16:50.840 but it's a common and what we need to do is what you do so well on the show steve is keep watching uh
00:16:57.920 what's going on and that's what i'm trying to do with peter nevaro.substack.com that's what i'm
00:17:02.240 trying to do there uh every week sir can it be i want to go back to something you know you had a uh
00:17:10.100 you had the the the actual employment report today there were more jobs i think that surprised people
00:17:14.680 on the upside you got issues with wages but i want to go back and tie it one of the reasons you've got
00:17:21.140 still the employment is that the consumer has not you know the consumer has not capitulated
00:17:28.100 and one of the reasons not capitulating is now we've crossed i think credit card debt of one
00:17:32.880 trillion dollars for the first time and these rates are through the roof and as you and cortez
00:17:37.880 have pointed out you've got repossessions you've got now people later on their mortgages uh you know
00:17:43.240 every every indice you have for the consumer and they're feeding these credit cards at the same
00:17:49.460 time the credit contraction is going to start affecting these credit cards where they take it off
00:17:54.680 give us your assessment of that of the employment number versus the consumer not not saying uncle yet
00:18:01.580 but piling up debtors i mean every individual right now of these credit cards particularly younger
00:18:07.500 individuals have to understand they're a walking leverage buyout they're like an lbo they're leveraging
00:18:12.980 up with this with the with adjustable rate debt that could explode on them uh and it's and if you look
00:18:20.560 at the numbers it's getting worse and worse and worse every month sir yeah let me be interestingly
00:18:25.460 you raise this because this is exactly what i do in the subsac article i i i go back to the
00:18:31.360 back to basics which is the four drivers of gdp growth right and they're they're they're in the
00:18:37.960 aggregate consumption which is the consumer investment which is business and then government spending and
00:18:43.560 then the trade part of it and what we have is this this really paradoxical situation with the
00:18:49.360 consumer steve consumer confidence is at a historic low right now and and by the textbook that should
00:18:58.960 say that consumers should be spending less and less but they're not and as a result in the latest gdp
00:19:06.880 report which came out at a real gdp growth rate of 1.1 percent which is which is stagnant growth we
00:19:14.000 should be hitting three or more um interestingly enough in the gdp equation of disproportionate amount
00:19:22.240 of the growth was consumer driven it was we got 3.7 percent out of the consumer well we well it was
00:19:30.800 negative on the business side so when that netted out it was 1.1 and that it's what we call in economics
00:19:37.760 and unsustainable equilibrium you can't have consumers fearful of their jobs and under such
00:19:44.880 credit crises and everything that's coming at them and hold up that four and be be the linchpin of
00:19:52.880 things so uh that's why i think a lot of forecasters are saying yeah with the recessions coming and they
00:20:01.360 keep saying that and yeah it's coming but like i say these macro events are slow moving you don't
00:20:06.480 get like like quick abrupt moves um in the economy you can have them in the financial markets but not
00:20:12.160 in the economy it's kind of a kind of a slow slow moving kind of train here um and in my view steve is
00:20:19.440 that it's inevitable that the consumer has to run out of fuel because um of the balance sheet but the
00:20:27.200 other thing steve is this the younger generation let me sound like an old fogey now they just have
00:20:33.200 a different view you know they don't care about having a car they don't care about having a house
00:20:37.920 they live day to day they don't care about getting married having kids and they're used to you know
00:20:44.080 from the day they were like in high school credit card companies were sending them credit cards and so
00:20:50.560 um it's it's part of the overall risk last thing i'll say on this steve is
00:20:56.640 no no a lot of people from the pandemic are freaked out and they have a higher discount rate
00:21:03.440 meaning that that they they see they see apocalypse more than than they they should or
00:21:11.680 and they're willing to just spend more money than they have that's a problem
00:21:18.000 well you see it also in the student loans i mean they don't mind getting the debt and taking on
00:21:23.440 then they want somebody to bail them out many of the people with the student debt
00:21:27.120 i mean why the exact same people are going to bail you out i mean that's that's a whole nother topic
00:21:33.920 but uh bottom line is the consumer spending that's propping up the current meager growth rate
00:21:42.320 is unsustainable full stop yeah okay uh peter how do people get to the substack yeah it's just uh
00:21:50.240 peternavarro.substack.com peternavarro.substack.com that's the gateway uh also the taking back trump's
00:21:58.560 america podcast and and if you go to the substack uh you can find out about the uh strategic macroeconomics
00:22:06.320 course that you have posted up um on your website and it's it's the first course um in uh war room
00:22:13.680 university of proud to be part of uh the ban and effort to uh bring financial and market literacy
00:22:20.240 uh to the uh to the posse um it's all good friend okay college of the deplorables by the way back in
00:22:28.800 the swamp um you've already you already pale back there man you look more relaxed what can i say
00:22:36.000 i know but i i'm uh i'm grinding by the way let me let me compliment your producer your on-scene
00:22:43.040 producer and and head of art direction who i know is extremely talented for the i'd love the i'd love
00:22:48.880 the the new shirt look with the with the new background it's amazing let me stand out hey thanks
00:22:55.520 brother thank you so much yeah i'm like thank you bring me a croissant here over here would you
00:23:06.320 and and give me this little makeup here like you give with bannon during the breaks
00:23:13.040 hair and makeup thank you brother appreciate it
00:23:17.760 have a great weekend doc dr peter navarro let's play i want to play barsting again with geraldo
00:23:24.800 we have the short version longer version geraldo sits there and sucks up to him for about 10 minutes
00:23:28.960 and finally gets to the question let's hear the question and i'll give an observation
00:23:34.160 is he fit to be president of the united states is donald trump fit to be president
00:23:39.040 uh what this is the way i'll answer that which is if you believe in his policies he's the lack
00:23:45.840 what what he's advertising is his policies he's the last person who could actually execute them
00:23:51.280 and achieve them he does not have the discipline he does not have the ability for strategic thinking
00:23:58.480 and linear thinking or setting priorities uh or how to get things done in the system it is a horror show
00:24:07.200 when he's when you know when he's left to his own devices and and so you may want his policies but
00:24:14.480 trump will not deliver trump policies he will deliver chaos and if anything lead to a backlash that will
00:24:21.760 set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be one okay this has a new theme you know
00:24:30.160 trump this is once again trump with uh trumpism without trump it's a it's a total fantasy remember bill
00:24:35.120 bar was right there bill bar was uh i think and i think this can be proven was guilty of uh of almost treason
00:24:44.720 with not following directives by the commander in chief and think he knew better you had mark milley
00:24:48.880 you had esper bar was part of this bar also is in a stone cold lie that we're going to get to the
00:24:54.640 bottom of um bar told the president they had done a report in a study that showed there was no voter fraud
00:25:02.160 by all the u.s attorneys in these key battleground states he told him in the oval office
00:25:07.440 and then it fails to mention his book but he said in the oval office it's on the record that the the uh
00:25:13.760 you know we we did this study there's no voter fraud that's a lie the reason we know it's a lie
00:25:18.640 the epoch times did a four-year request all of the field offices all the u.s attorneys offices in
00:25:26.480 the states came back said we did no report we did no analysis we sent nothing to main justice
00:25:31.760 that bill bar had lied directly to the president of the united states the only one that did
00:25:36.240 was the u.s attorney in in philadelphia who later ran for uh for governor of the state
00:25:43.680 and they sent back well we can't he sent a letter to actual bar that said there has been fraud we
00:25:48.080 think there is particularly with the mail-in ballots in the signature verification and bill
00:25:53.040 bar told him to stand down the order for main justice was to stand down bill bar is another
00:26:02.160 rhino stone-cold liar that betrayed his country and betrayed the president united states who reported
00:26:09.520 to he should have resigned he also lied to him about what he was doing on blm bill bar is just a stone
00:26:16.400 cold liar and no president trump can execute quite well i know that from personal experience and
00:26:23.440 and peter navarro would back that up to the people that work for him there's this tendency now i think
00:26:28.000 even vivek has said this article in the new york times that uh president trump has taken the trump
00:26:34.960 plan as far as he can he hasn't even started yet he hasn't even started yet he says he's quoted by
00:26:40.720 saying president trump's good policies but they're gone this is the new theme they're going to start
00:26:44.160 coming up with trump's policies are great but you can't have trump to execute him that is one thousand
00:26:52.000 percent wrong one thousand percent wrong president donald j trump is going to win the primary president
00:26:58.320 donald j trump is going to win the presidency for the third time short commercial break going back
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00:31:42.720 i'm going to show you an interview of former trump propaganda steve bannon interviewing a crazy person
00:31:49.200 now i don't say that lightly okay one of the things in this clip that i'm going to show you
00:31:54.800 this this is bonkers stuff i wouldn't let children see this it's so disturbing uh steve bannon interviews
00:32:01.680 a woman named mary beth is that her first name is that her first and middle name is that her first and
00:32:07.760 last name we have no idea her name is mary beth supposedly and mary beth says she believes
00:32:15.360 that the satanic temple is secretly sending recruiters to school in after school programs
00:32:24.320 to recruit and even grab children think about that for a second and steve bannon i guess kind of
00:32:32.560 pretends like mary beth is a sane person and one of the what's the point here mental health very serious
00:32:39.280 issue not to be stigmatized we want everybody to have access to mental health services it's not a
00:32:45.600 joke or any of it okay the point here is much of what the right has normalized as political discourse
00:32:55.520 is the sort of stuff that really should be handled by mental health professionals let's listen if it
00:33:01.440 isn't in your school system it will be soon so please be on the lookout for it um like i said it kind of
00:33:07.680 snuck up on us we had no idea i've told people about it they think i'm crazy when i talk about it
00:33:12.560 yeah but google it look for it and definitely look for it in your school system how it goes to an
00:33:18.800 after-school program or you're one of the parents have to work and they got to stay after school
00:33:23.120 on other things and these and the satanic people are are wandering around the school hall because
00:33:27.840 trust me they'll be looking for they'll be looking to grab these kids and put them in there
00:33:30.800 so that's very concerning to me um yeah the satanic temple has infiltrated after-school programs this
00:33:41.200 is crazy stuff and the fact that steve bannon has her on and sort of pretends like this is a real
00:33:48.880 concern this is that this is a normal thing fuels a crisis in this country and i want to what's it's so
00:33:56.800 difficult to address this topic we do i don't want to be disrespectful nor minimize mental illness
00:34:06.400 we also have let me uh come in here memphis and memphis just put a pin in there because i want to get
00:34:11.600 pacman back on david pacman is a and this is why uh we've invited mirbeth back here pacman is a very
00:34:18.400 smart guy he uh just had mike lindell uh you know our six o'clock shows on lindell tv just had mike on a
00:34:25.520 a couple of months ago i think i don't know for 20 or 30 minutes and and you know and gave as good
00:34:30.320 as he got it was a very good interview he pressed my card as you should uh he's a very smart guy does
00:34:36.560 a lot of analysis of a lot of our content and as obviously we don't agree with all of it but it's
00:34:43.520 always sharp and in on point even when we disagree with the points there's something different here
00:34:48.080 this was a this was the first time i've seen him try to do a total diversion away from the topic
00:34:55.120 that and i told me everything first again when a guy as serious as pacman
00:35:00.240 comes out and doesn't want to address the topic but all sudden the issue is the mental health the
00:35:05.120 issue is this poor crazy woman that wandered onto the stage and really what what he was criticizing as
00:35:10.000 crazy is what i was saying for those of you didn't see the five o'clock show we played the liberty
00:35:15.040 council remember this issue with these after-school programs and alternatively the after-school
00:35:19.920 programs is that they have had these uh after-school programs of um evangelical there's an evangelical
00:35:26.960 christian society that has this after-school programs for children to love one another and to
00:35:32.320 give the values of the judeo-christian west and uh and what has come up is the uh i guess the satanic
00:35:39.040 temple uh has now gone into many public schools and areas and tried to counter that with a satan
00:35:46.800 satan club and is when murth's on the last time and if maybe we get the jingle they have a cute jingle
00:35:52.720 and they do all this and the kids about self-empowerment and all these things
00:35:56.240 and the liberty council guys have been fighting this across the country now they have a certain
00:36:00.640 different take on it they think hey what they're trying to do is force the christian clubs out
00:36:05.840 because they're trying to say we're a religion their religion maybe we're pagan religion their
00:36:09.760 religion it's all got to go pacman didn't want to address any of that so i want you i want to give
00:36:14.720 you the floor you're back now because i and the reason is since you brought this to our attention as
00:36:20.640 many people do folks realize how the worm works we get a lot of people giving us stuff all over the
00:36:25.040 country we got to curate and go through it and and and you brought this to me several months ago
00:36:30.320 i said you gotta get more and now we've been inundated and the liberty council guy said hey this is a
00:36:35.520 big problem but it was means i was saying hey they're running around grabbing the kids after
00:36:39.360 school you were sat there saying i think you may be crazy this day but but but give me your
00:36:44.320 so david packman is not he's a very smart guy why would he go when you're presenting about the satanic
00:36:51.680 clubs and of course we played what happened in boston over the weekend although it's a different
00:36:55.840 organization why would he then go immediately and try to attack you as a crazy person well i would think
00:37:03.360 that if you're over the target that's when you get attacked um i i'm going to wear the crazy
00:37:12.960 as a badge of honor and because i stand i help to stand in the way of protecting our children and so
00:37:20.960 if that's what i have to do i'll do it i think and i said during the last interview the reason why
00:37:26.960 people do not are afraid to stand up is for this very reason i was attacked for being crazy to all
00:37:33.520 of his listeners the man doesn't know me i was presenting facts and well in fact he said he didn't
00:37:40.560 want uh this segment he didn't want his young children or young children should not watch it
00:37:45.920 and where aren't you there trying to protect young children yes that's the whole purpose of this but
00:37:51.520 the satanic temple i mean i had never heard of it until recently to be honest with you
00:37:56.560 but they're over 700 000 strong they've been around they were founded in 2013 they obtained tax
00:38:04.720 exempt status in 2019 which does allow them access to public spaces just as other religious organizations
00:38:13.760 and that's what why they're popping up in schools now um they can also apply for faith-based government
00:38:20.000 grants which i wasn't aware of that so um one of the main philosophies of the temple is critical
00:38:29.600 thought as a way to prevent blind obedience to leaders and that is the reason they want to get
00:38:35.680 in primary schools in these after school clubs so they can you know formulate the impressionable minds
00:38:46.000 of the let me get into the kids early yes when they're just learning how to reason so and that
00:38:51.360 plays into the thing of the devil is you know the lucifer i'd rather rain in milton's paradise loss
00:38:58.160 i'd rather rain in hell than serve in heaven that your ego you're you know better than god it's one
00:39:04.160 of the things we talk about in transhumanism it makes you this is one of the issues we have in
00:39:07.920 artificial intelligence today right where you people think that they are gods they can create
00:39:12.000 god-like structures and we don't need god right exactly they believe in independence and freedom
00:39:17.600 of will do you think pacman knew this pacman's not a dumb guy i mean he's a very smart guy he
00:39:21.760 does a lot of analysis shows he researched stuff he clearly knows what's going on here
00:39:28.240 why would he try to divert it why do you think they don't want to talk about this as a topic
00:39:34.560 well i think they just want to act like it doesn't exist so that way they and people came to
00:39:40.880 you it was young mothers and parents and and grandmothers that said and this is particularly
00:39:45.600 in certain areas of the country we know that it's not being pushed back on correct like i'm dealing
00:39:50.640 with chesapeake virginia right now um the parents are not pushing back and that's one of the reasons i
00:39:57.360 wanted to come today they have their next school board meeting may 22nd and i would love to see it
00:40:04.240 inundated with people fighting back on this um parents unfortunately i don't think are being parents
00:40:11.760 currently and i know that they're tired and they're stressed and they're pulled in a lot of directions
00:40:16.480 but your most important job is to be a parent and right now it's a war whether you know it or not
00:40:22.880 for your children and they are coming for them and it's time for everybody to stand up parents
00:40:30.160 grandparents everyone um you think that parental rights you're starting to see uh the parental rights
00:40:36.960 was driven you've seen the moms for liberty the moms for america there's a lot of dads uh too we
00:40:43.280 just had a great pastor on last week um talking about that the parental rights movement has been
00:40:49.280 something at the tip of it's changed the election in in obviously in virginia um north carolina mark
00:40:57.440 robinson's just announced for um for governor and the in the guardian today had as their number one
00:41:04.320 article mark robinson is a problem because mark robinson's a hater mark robinson is a uh is a bad
00:41:11.680 guy and one of the reasons he's a bad guy he's all over this this issue about the the formation that
00:41:18.160 they're trying to get their hands on the kids to to form in a different way away from the judeo-christian
00:41:23.840 west uh and yet he's a he's enemy he's public enemy number one because he's trying to change
00:41:28.960 things in north carolina and you've seen a lot in north carolina as you presented to me in the past
00:41:33.680 the se you're the first one to bring my attention sel and how dangerous sel is when you say you don't
00:41:39.200 think some of the parents are doing that with all the you know the economy where it is you got two
00:41:43.680 jobs you got kids running around they're trying to go and and trying to go to the school boards and
00:41:48.080 fight crt sel now you throw the satanic club in there you know how much can parents do they're
00:41:54.640 trying to take over these school boards this meeting is going to be on the 22nd of may
00:41:59.280 if this is the chesapeake school system or is that school board school board for chesapeake
00:42:04.000 virginia yes chesapeake virginia is essentially between norfolk naval station and and oceana virginia
00:42:11.680 beach and the anfib base tons of veterans tons of military how could they possibly have a problem
00:42:17.520 with this this the after school satan club if we're if we're struggling in chesapeake we have
00:42:22.400 problems right well i can tell you i live near fort bragg and we have issues there they're pushing
00:42:28.080 back on the parental rights i mean they are furious about it that the the parents have rights over their
00:42:35.440 children i i've just never you think the parental rights down in those counties are a big are big yes
00:42:41.120 it's a big it's a big pushback yeah what um tell me what's your other friend i don't need to
00:42:47.200 i know you did your research here i know you did your research tell me about that what's the
00:42:52.160 difference of the satanic temple that's in back of the satan clubs and my friends at the at the uh
00:42:58.640 at the at the uh at satan at satan con they're two different organizations right now the satanic temple
00:43:06.320 is the one behind satan oh it is oh really they're all wow they're all the same wow yeah
00:43:13.200 so that thing i showed at the first was actually the same uh yes okay fine yes what um and so what
00:43:18.800 what are you calling on parents to do given that i think we've i we're trying to make the case that
00:43:23.760 you're not crazy that you didn't think this up i didn't say i didn't say that but no but um you
00:43:31.280 did contact a defamation audience yeah yeah yeah she can take it um no i just i really think parents
00:43:37.760 need to wake up i think did you ever think in your did you ever think in your entire life
00:43:42.640 that we would be having a discussion on television about satan clubs in schools after school i mean it's
00:43:47.440 it's almost incomprehensive no it's hard as it is for parents to raise kids when you said that's
00:43:52.160 where i was that's why i made the point i said it's going to be dragging the little kids in
00:43:55.600 for the critical you know everything's critical thinking they're going to give them you know it's
00:43:59.200 critical race they're we're going to take you critical thought right which is a gromsy that's
00:44:04.000 a marxist a neo-marxist way to to to get kids to hate authority to hate to hate structure to hate order
00:44:12.880 and to love chaos right and then what do you have i mean you have schools out of control you have
00:44:18.080 i mean it everything implodes with that if if you have chaos so parents just need to wake up um
00:44:25.760 you know and that's why i'm stepping out of my comfort zone and coming on here trying to warn people
00:44:31.680 and and asking people to get involved because this is a war and we've got to do it it's now or never
00:44:39.360 it's coming at a record speed i mean all these things and i mean look at it with abortion well we had
00:44:47.600 bishop snyder here yesterday and then the dinner last night and it was one of the toughest um
00:44:54.720 men i know in the world and you know him very well that sat there and goes what got what had what
00:44:59.760 has him so shocked is how quickly this has all happened yes just over the last couple years these
00:45:04.640 weren't topics we even talked about but then you go back and see the experts they said no this has
00:45:09.200 been building for quite a while and they've been working this for quite a while this just did not come
00:45:14.080 up in fact can we play i want to play can we play the liberty council i do want to play the liberty
00:45:18.320 council because there is a difference of opinion here among on our side the liberty council do a
00:45:23.600 great job they're trying to argue that hey this may not be as serious as you think as an actual club
00:45:29.920 itself quiet club they're doing it from a legal perspective that's why they got tax-exempt status as a
00:45:36.240 religion that that's why they they've gotten all the all the all the ability to go for faith-exempt
00:45:41.920 issues they've tried to set themselves up as a religion and what they're trying to do is legally
00:45:46.080 use it to get rid of these after-school clubs which i understand the little clubs or the evangelists
00:45:51.440 done a fantastic job let's play that clip and then we can you can compare and contrast your belief which
00:45:57.360 is hey we gotta shut the clubs down right while they're there yes let's go ahead and play this
00:46:01.040 isn't the issue you got these parents and it just takes a couple kids because the way they're selling
00:46:06.560 that we played the jingles on uh and showed the videos on saturday i think my sister was here she
00:46:11.920 she brought up because a lot of people she knows worried about this they make it into self-empowerment
00:46:16.160 they they don't really you're not having the they're not sacrificing animals right they're they're not
00:46:21.840 doing black mass at the beginning they're looking at it as a self-empowerment tool if you look at this
00:46:26.800 it's all the it's all the modern therapy you know the 21st century modernist uh modernism's
00:46:33.760 you know self-help therapy is all this the kid can be self-empowered they can have self-respect they
00:46:39.360 do all this isn't the issue is any of these get traction at all maybe they don't start with anybody
00:46:44.560 but you just get one or two kids that get sucked into this next thing you know you've got you know a
00:46:49.360 third of the school is there for self-empowerment and they're leading them down the path to it may start
00:46:54.160 with agnostic and atheism but it leads down to as bad as that is as horrible as that is it leads you
00:47:01.040 down to something actually more more perverted sir yeah no i agree with you steve that's that's certainly
00:47:07.760 right uh on the one hand uh oftentimes they're a flash in the pan and they fizzle out on the other hand
00:47:15.760 they're not sacrificing you know people or animals as part of their rituals but they're playing with fire
00:47:22.800 with these satanic symbols or they call themselves satanic clubs and now they're going into these
00:47:28.000 self-help issues and the problem is not whether you have a lot of these proliferate i don't think you
00:47:34.000 will but even having some of them you're going to have kids that get involved in some of these clubs
00:47:40.960 and the consequences although they may look like fun and games at the beginning
00:47:46.400 are going to be problematic the longer that they're led down this false path
00:47:52.800 so so there's liberty council who are the most serious guys in in in going after these types of
00:47:58.720 things and he basically said in the earlier part of the interview we didn't play that hey i think it's
00:48:03.760 legally we're going to have to legally but he does reinforce your fact that he says i don't know if you're
00:48:08.800 going to be seeing sacrifice of animals after school or human sacrifice but some of these clubs are
00:48:16.000 going to get established and little kids are going to be exposed to this so you stepped out of your
00:48:21.440 comfort zone because you're kind of a behind the scenes type right you would say we we would we
00:48:25.760 would say you're behind the scenes type definitely why was it this given you've been behind the scenes
00:48:32.480 in scl you've been behind the scenes on cot what was what was it about this you figured hey it's not
00:48:38.240 getting enough it's not getting enough momentum it's not getting enough traction uh and this is
00:48:43.920 important enough that i'm gonna come out of my comfort zone and here's a lesson everybody in the
00:48:48.240 posse is going to step out of your comfort zone you're going to have to push yourself this is one
00:48:53.520 of the reasons we've been so successful you got a huge scalp today at cdc next tuesday is a meeting
00:48:59.600 at the white house that you drove don't think you didn't drive it you drove it but every every
00:49:05.520 person is stepping out of their comfort zone and using your agency why was it the satan clubs that that
00:49:11.360 that led you to do that well i i think it's still fairly new it's not in a lot of schools yet
00:49:17.520 so if we can be headed off at the pass um and because it does deal with our children there's
00:49:24.080 nothing more important than our children and their souls and and all so i just you know like i said i'll
00:49:31.920 be if they want to call me crazy that's fine i'll wear it as a badge of honor if i can stop this or
00:49:37.360 or get others to help stop this um you know again i think we're in a war i think we're in a battle are
00:49:45.680 you going to back off is david is david pacman gotten you backed off are you gun shy the david
00:49:51.200 pacman a heavy duty intellectual that that breaks down these shows in a very intellectual way and is
00:49:56.800 one of the one of the guys on the left that really kind of deconstructs and shows how how how uh bad the
00:50:03.360 right is and how there's all you know i'm i'm not a guy doing a show it's steve bannon the propaganda
00:50:08.880 steve bannon trump's uh propagandists you know steve bannon uh the bad guy that's that's not gonna
00:50:14.640 you're not gonna you're not gonna go curl up in a fetal position and say please please mr pacman
00:50:20.320 please leave me alone i'll send you a five dollar contribution keep your show going you're not going
00:50:23.680 to do that no i'm not but i will say i was if he attacked on fact that's something different or if
00:50:32.720 he had a difference of opinion that's fine that's what america's about i have no problem with that
00:50:37.600 if he's very for it i'm very against it that's fine but to attack somebody personally and call
00:50:43.120 them names especially crazy to a woman is not a good thing for any man to do
00:50:50.720 but he went there yes no but that's why we picked it up because he normally does these very sophisticated
00:50:55.840 analysis here it was a total diversion from the beginning and particularly the fact that we had
00:51:00.960 liberty council on that reinforced it and i was really the one saying most of this you were kind
00:51:04.960 of laying out the facts we only got about a minute or so once again chesapeake i know you the people
00:51:10.160 in chesapeake you're very close to what it's the 22nd may 22nd yes it's a school board show up in
00:51:16.800 masses we need you this is where you guys are going to lay out your your arguments against this club yes
00:51:22.480 yes and we need numbers behind us last school board meeting two people showed up
00:51:26.880 so we need a lot why is crt sorry crt and seo got a lot more what is this hard getting traction are
00:51:34.720 people afraid they're intimidated afraid david packman's going to call him crazy is that what it
00:51:39.040 is well i think i do think people are afraid to step out of their comfort zone because they will be
00:51:43.200 called crazy they could be attacked personally and all and i think some people just haven't uh
00:51:47.920 heard that much about it yet so it's just on the early stage but for all christians i say
00:51:52.000 they you cannot stay lukewarm any longer please get involved okay thanks thanks for stopping back
00:51:58.240 by um and uh david packman you're better than that you do great analysis make sure you stick to the
00:52:04.160 stay on the topic david smart um not exactly a fan of the war room's content the propaganda okay
00:52:13.440 tomorrow morning it's going to be we've got global economic we're at philip patrick here i think frank
00:52:19.680 gaffney's going to be with me i'm going to break down this nicole we're going to talk about miles
00:52:24.160 guo and the situation of the ccp all of it break down a lot of economics have a big update in politics
00:52:30.080 tomorrow morning also with president trump the campaign 10 a.m eastern daytime live see you back
00:52:35.520 in the war room thanks kid thanks
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