In this hour, we have two of the best folks that we have associated with the War Room to help me out here with the debt ceiling crisis and the crisis in Ukraine, as well as a special guest, Natalie Stansbery.
00:00:00.000this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:12.780people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:19.800authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
00:00:25.700like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:30.440misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:34.720the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
00:00:41.780your host stephen k bannon okay welcome uh it's uh friday 19 may in the year of our lord 2023 uh
00:00:51.240welcome uh i want to take this hour i've asked two of the uh of the best folks that we have
00:00:57.420associated with the war room to help me out here because i we need a given the debt ceiling everything
00:01:01.920is going on this out of control spending we need to do a strategic assessment of the early years of
00:01:08.560the third world war and particularly the situation on the eurasian landmass around ukraine uh and why
00:01:16.820it looks like and you're seeing now all the media start talking about what a long haul this is going
00:01:21.120to be long haul means the united states is going to be embedded in this just like iraq and afghanistan
00:01:27.740and korea and all of it for 10 or 20 years and and we need level-headed people now to see exactly
00:01:35.700what's going on i've asked natalie winters to join us um our executive editor and co-host natalie
00:01:40.720um you you've made your reputation on going after and doing original investigative reporting a lot of that
00:01:48.320has revolved around the chinese communist party right because a lot of roads lead back to beijing
00:01:54.460and you've made this this um this great um uh analogy or metaphor but it's not uh elite capture
00:02:04.060it's elite merger and you've seen this for the ccp and much of the between uh the titans of wall street
00:02:10.160the oligarchs of silicon valley the uniparty what goes on with these companies in the united states
00:02:15.220uh you've recently been doing stuff focusing also on the ukraine before i get harnwell on and we're
00:02:21.740going to talk about all how the media is trying to shift the narrative now in the mindset that this
00:02:26.700is going to take forever we're going to be here this is going to be another iraq afghanistan and we
00:02:31.100just got to get prepared for it give me you've had some recent stories about this but once you
00:02:35.900pull the camera back and give us your overall assessment because quite frankly i can't make sense of
00:02:40.140this there's something going on about this ukraine situation that and you've had durham's report you
00:02:46.600have all these other aspects coming on about the biden's involvement you've got uh the comer
00:02:51.620investigations now they got romania there's something not right about this ukraine thing
00:02:56.240that quite frankly is not as clear as you've helped make the ccp's involvement from the cash money
00:03:02.060point of view so i'd like you to to tee off this hour by framing this for us and particularly how we
00:03:07.920get our arms around this going forward ma'am sure well when i began my career as an investigative
00:03:14.060journalist it wasn't necessarily that i set out to expose the chinese communist party i wanted to focus
00:03:19.740more so on the concept of elite merger not just elite capture and nine times out of ten really 99 times out
00:03:27.240of 100 given the political class that occupies this city but especially the political regime that occupies
00:03:33.420the white house it was the chinese communist party conducting a lot of these compromise and foreign
00:03:38.480influence operations but frankly i think i've sort of seen the advent of a very similar situation going
00:03:44.700on when it comes to ukraine and i i definitely agree with you that there's an element of just sort
00:03:49.880of confusion right you can't really understand what is playing out um in that country between ukraine
00:03:56.240and russia from a from a logical point of view and nine times out of ten as someone who really has
00:04:02.480focused on foreign influence operations and how they work here in the united states uh my gut instinct
00:04:09.040tells me that there's some level of compromise some level of conflict of interest going on and i think
00:04:14.420we'd obviously be remiss to not point out the fact that the biden family just like they do in china
00:04:20.120uh and a bunch of other countries have of course interesting financial arrangements going on and emanating
00:04:25.720out of the country of ukraine of course it goes all the way to the bio labs that a biotech company
00:04:31.700that hunter biden was invested in was partnered with and working on while they were receiving funds from
00:04:36.760um obama's department of defense so there's certainly similar elements of this you know murky
00:04:42.160untraceable corruption but when you really dig down um i think what's interesting in the ukraine
00:04:48.860aspect i don't think it's just a a compromise in terms of you know hard cash money power i also think there's
00:04:56.020an ideological element to it too it's sort of like chinese communist party compromise but they also
00:05:02.120have the added benefit where i think supporting ukraine has become a cause much like supporting
00:05:07.080blm or any of these other kind of trendy these things that it's hip to do it's cool to do um and
00:05:13.180that i think is frankly a very very very dangerous element and dangerous combination and the unfortunate
00:05:19.740byproduct of that um and i think where we see this defense of ukraine emanating from strongest is
00:05:26.060unfortunately our federal government and particularly um agencies that are interested in engaging in the
00:05:32.600information of war because as we know yeah ukraine is now a kinetic war but nine times out of ten i i think
00:05:39.480at least in this day and age we've certainly seen it with the chinese communist party um although i'd argue
00:05:44.300with what's going on at the border right now we have seen it it turned to kinetic warfare um but
00:05:49.460this is really being conducted in the realm of information and that of course rests upon the
00:05:54.040ability to censor misinformation and disinformation and people should remember that you know a few months
00:05:59.660prior when there was that massive story about all of the efforts from the department of homeland
00:06:05.100security and cisa all of these groups that really should be focused on you know cyber security
00:06:10.400anti-piracy actual election integrity but instead we found out that their primary agenda was really
00:06:17.740censoring information online in collusion and in partnership with the social media platforms and
00:06:22.660when we got sort of the white papers or the outlines of what really their area of operations were what
00:06:29.460they were focusing on people were really quick to focus on how they were trying to censor information
00:06:34.860about elections information about covet origins and vaccines but always buried in there you know
00:06:41.000sub point c or d it also had to do with ukraine and of course the uh afghanistan withdrawal but ukraine is
00:06:48.780one of these issues that has enjoyed similar as you always call it praetorian guard status um as a lot of
00:06:55.400these other issues that have had you know full force protection complete witness protection program um from the
00:07:01.260deep state from the permanent political class and like you were alluding to which i'm happy to get
00:07:05.980into in a bit um this cover-up operation um goes actually all the way to the pentagon and i think the
00:07:13.700important point to underscore here is how secretive these operations are to really run cover for ukraine
00:07:21.240how secretly and how clandestine that they've been conducted
00:07:24.620well no i want to go to your to to one of your latest reports because now and here's the thing i
00:07:32.100don't maybe just before we go to that and and i know you're pressed for time and we are too because
00:07:36.560i get to ben in the ccp i understand it although we finance and set massive amounts of capital i mean
00:07:43.260it's a country of 1.4 billion people it's an ancient civilization uh we've used it as a slave labor
00:07:49.000manufacturer i mean there was an industrial internal logic do you see how it could play out and you could
00:07:53.220tell that very very simply and you could see how all the pieces aligned together around that industrial
00:07:58.140logic of of why china and why the ccp is the overlords you also knew that ccp also had other
00:08:05.180wealth either their central bank you know just paper generator but you could see how the corruption
00:08:10.080the influence peddly came back the washing of the money and coming back the ukraine it doesn't really
00:08:16.360have any i mean it's got you know it's wheat and it's obviously a farmland it's got natural resources i
00:08:21.660think on the border where it's industrial power but it's it's nothing in even in concept
00:08:26.900to our industrial there's no internal industrial logic of why it would take such a central place
00:08:32.600there has to be something else i mean and you're getting into you're going to tell us about your
00:08:37.820latest report but there's something and this one doesn't make sense to me it never has why is this
00:08:43.920place to take such a central aspect why are so many policymakers this is everything why uh does it seem like
00:08:51.640the biden's you know he left uh which is unheard of it's never happened he took off a couple days
00:08:58.380before we came to power in 17 and he went over there and took a trip over there what is it about
00:09:04.140the ukraine that the elite capture a merger of the ccp i can understand i can say i don't agree with it
00:09:09.600obviously we're fighting we're the number one fighters and you've dedicated much your life to it
00:09:13.460but i can see how that can happen here there's something wrong that i don't even see how this could
00:09:19.400happen yet it is as paramount in this city right now almost as a ccp as a center of things of an
00:09:27.500axle that so many things revolve around ma'am yeah it's it's bizarre but i will do what i do best and
00:09:34.080link it to the chinese communist party and i think here's why you're talking about how ukraine existing
00:09:39.820in a vacuum just looking at it as a country from a geopolitical threat or or ally it doesn't really
00:09:45.840have much to offer but unfortunately for ukraine uh at least from the eyes of of our you know
00:09:52.980intellectual superiors here the atlantic council groups of the world they sort of exist as the foil
00:09:59.160to russia and i think in order for our ruling class to have some sort of a common enemy right
00:10:05.540they can't really unload on the chinese communist party so they have to make russia the ultimate threat
00:10:11.760so russia sort of i think is is really un i mean again we're obviously not hardcore pro russia here
00:10:18.680but russia is i think unfortunately and unnecessarily maligned to sort of overcompensate for the fact
00:10:25.480that the deep state here that the kind of globalist ruling class can't actually criticize china or the
00:10:32.980chinese communist party or call them out as the geopolitical threat they are because they're so
00:10:37.980deeply compromised and so deeply in bed with them whereas a lot of the criticisms that they hurl
00:10:43.340against russia whether it's you know election influence uh foreign influence operations you know
00:10:48.880you nine times out of ten you can cross out the headlines when these people write stories about
00:10:53.680russia and what they're doing with trump as we know from the derm report it's all fake uh but you can
00:10:59.040swap in china because china's guilty of basically everything they accuse russia of doing but to the one
00:11:05.820millionth degree so i think unfortunately for ukraine's sake because our intellectual
00:11:11.560superiors the deep state apparatus here detests russia so strongly you obviously see that in the case of
00:11:19.620the russia hoax um ukraine has to prevail um otherwise their entire really world view right all of the
00:11:29.660papers that are coming out of the atlantic council um the truman national security project all the
00:11:36.240think tanks that are here in washington dc um if russia prevails their entire world view which is
00:11:42.820really what undergirds a you know billion dollar non-profit ngo grift operation what's that's what it
00:11:51.240is it's information laundering um they are very much in the business of seeing russia fail and i think
00:11:56.820unfortunately for ukraine just because they're on russia's border they are now going to see these
00:12:03.980people pushing for them to keep fighting russia keep this war ongoing um when it doesn't really have
00:12:09.800to do with ukraine i mean and of course there's the defense contractor aspect too they since trump
00:12:14.640didn't start any new wars they need a new cash cow all i could say is i wish these defense contractors
00:12:19.820saw our southern border as an opportunity to make money and and create you know and deploy weapons as
00:12:25.960they did the border of ukraine but i won't hold my breath for that
00:12:29.640natalie tell us about your latest because now you're starting to get into this you've got an
00:12:35.300amazing kind of a blockbuster report kind of kick things off walk us through it yeah this is wild i
00:12:40.840think this is the best evidence of uh no conspiracies only coincidences but in this case i think it it very
00:12:47.100well may be a conspiracy so less than a week after ukraine was invaded that was february 24th of 2022
00:12:54.300we now obtained internal documents um because this was supposed to be a very secretive operation
00:13:00.560it was never really supposed to leak the stories from the intercept um the pentagon established this
00:13:06.100is the name of it this is not war room this is the actual name the influence and perception
00:13:10.100management office which was explicitly tasked with countering disinformation and misinformation
00:13:16.320and if you really get into the nitty-gritty of what uh this operation this little sort of
00:13:20.900sub-office is tasked with doing um it's really about spreading propaganda and that's not me being
00:13:26.740hyperbolic that's basically enshrined in this entity's mission statement and also in that same
00:13:32.460time period they launched the defense military deception program office which was tasked with quote
00:13:39.120sensitive messaging deception influence and other operations in the information environment and i'll read
00:13:47.120very quickly i know we're short on time but i think it's worth noting because like i said this this
00:13:51.740operation this article from the intercept it stresses this was never supposed to leak it only got out
00:13:58.020because a document that was being written up solely for the confines of academia um sort of leaked to the
00:14:05.000press and then they were able to reverse engineer through some budget reports that this entity had been
00:14:09.940receiving millions of taxpayer dollars to conduct these operations but they have a little case study
00:14:15.080um outlining what exactly this office is supposed to do and this is what it says
00:14:19.020let's say dod wants to influence country a's leaders to stop purchasing a weapon system
00:14:25.120from country b assuming the ipmo that's influence and perception management office has worked to
00:14:30.900establish the desired behavior change how might key influencers be identified that have sway over
00:14:36.360these leaders thought processes beliefs motives reasoning etc thereafter assuming an influence strategy is
00:14:43.380developed how might the die or ic determine if dod's influence activities are working so it really
00:14:50.120shows you an elaborate influence operation campaign i would argue this is being used if not well definitely
00:14:57.380explicitly if not exclusively when it comes to ukraine but i also think the concerning aspect of this and
00:15:03.340what the intercept article really goes into is that there's nothing really in the mission statement or
00:15:08.920guidelines of this entity of this new newly launched office that prevents them from using these same
00:15:15.800tactics against the american people whether it's contained to the issue of ukraine and trying to
00:15:21.140artificially manufacture really astroturf support for the issue um or frankly any issue with that and as
00:15:27.500someone who has read way too many uh government databases about the money that they spend to counter
00:15:32.540misinformation and disinformation here domestically this sounds eerily similar um and the millions of
00:15:39.180dollars that they're they're getting to to push this operation is also very concerning because it's
00:15:43.780it's a pretty hefty budget is this going to it is the our purpose here we're going to try to get this so
00:15:51.220the appropriators know about this they can zero this out i mean the end game here really is not even an
00:15:56.600investigation this could go away if we made sure no cash was allocated to this is is is this one of the
00:16:03.780driving angles of attack of your investigation that here you don't need a bunch of uh uh calling before
00:16:11.040the oversight committee or the weaponization or this is a armed services dod and the appropriators
00:16:17.700guys say hey this is not right this get this gets to the heart of russ votes the woke and weaponized
00:16:23.460uh massive budget of the federal government yeah i think this is weaponization at its its finest um i
00:16:30.700think we're still honestly in the early stages though of actually understanding what exactly this office
00:16:36.680is like i said this never was supposed to leak and when they've tested when they've had people who
00:16:42.300should know about it um testify in front of congress before they've always been very vague when even
00:16:48.680pressed sort of generally in the direction of the existence of this office so i think they should
00:16:54.360obviously have a hearing explicitly addressing this because i like you said this is i think a glaring
00:17:00.620example of weaponized government i'm sure it's being used for woke purposes too but the fact that they
00:17:06.680are engaged in propaganda campaigns internationally and likely domestically using taxpayer funds secretly i mean
00:17:15.220it checks all the boxes um for weaponized government against the american people let alone to defend
00:17:21.340uh the territorial integrity of ukraine while our southern border is being breached to high heaven
00:17:27.000um it's it's i mean i i always say i can't believe it but unfortunately in joe biden's america
00:17:33.380whenever i say that i then pause and say well actually i 100 percent can
00:17:38.080uh by the way this is why natalie came back to the imperial capital to to lay wood to this amazing uh
00:17:46.200initial start how do people get to your writings how they get you on social media how do they get to
00:17:52.600all of it natalie make sure you go to warroom.org and sign up for the newsletter and if you want to
00:17:57.840follow me i am natalie g winters on all platforms natalie thank you know you're busy today thank you very
00:18:05.600much uh great to have you on thank you okay uh man i gotta tell you i want everybody to read this
00:18:15.080article your head will blow up want to bring in um now uh brother harnwell and i'm just going to turn
00:18:22.040to you because you've got a certain logic you know what and look this is a uh strategic situation
00:18:27.720report and the reason i wanted ben to focus on this over a couple days he hasn't been on the show
00:18:32.280and we do the special on friday was that i i can see where some of this media narrative is going
00:18:37.360and number one you can see a big shift here they're obviously very they're they're scared to their the
00:18:42.120death that the war room's got natalie winters back here now to investigate that you've got
00:18:46.520russ votes organization that's really questioning the funding here that you've got we're in this huge
00:18:52.160budget fight and we haven't even mentioned i'll be honest ukraine did not come out of the first
00:18:56.940budget fight but i can see the trend line or it's going that it is going to start coming out
00:19:01.580and at the same time they're starting they're starting to lay the groundwork for oh this is
00:19:06.440going to be a long campaign that we could be here forever we've got to take the long view of this
00:19:10.560thing so ben i know you've got a bunch of ways you want to do this we got eight minutes left
00:19:14.860in the first segment then we got the entire second segment so go ahead and take it away sir
00:19:18.900good evening steve well here's an article that was in yesterday's financial times and the headline
00:19:27.720is ukraine's allies fear military support will fade in u.s election year adding that european capitals
00:19:36.800are concerned that divisive washington politics will jeopardize aid levels when the 48 billion
00:19:46.100package expires um and it's basically uh an article here which is a bit of truth this is this is the
00:19:55.980mainstream media specialization i'm going to go into this um in the second segment some a bit further
00:20:01.600it's it's the mainstream media specialization because they tell you a bit of truth but they
00:20:06.800absolutely distort uh the context of that truth um and and a very misleading narrative so you're never
00:20:15.300quite if that if the mainstream media is your only source of information you're never really going
00:20:19.940to have a handle on what the events are and what are the what are the underlying causes for the events
00:20:26.020that you can see um here lurking behind this uh article is the fear that something will change
00:20:36.260fundamentally in the dynamic um of america's support for the finance of the ukraine war next year
00:20:43.380towards the end of next year and that's obviously the 2024 presidential election um and what they're
00:20:50.340never quite telling you is that obviously biden's gonna got a time frame to funnel as much money as
00:20:57.700he possibly can into ukraine because after the elections in november next year the situation um
00:21:05.300will change and what they're not telling you they're sort of hinting at it they're sort of like that
00:21:10.900the proverbial elephant in the living room and sort of edging around it is that the reason that trump
00:21:16.340is one of the reasons that trump is considered um to win the many valid and viable reasons is of
00:21:23.220course that he's against um an open-ended aid to um to ukraine and i think a lot of people are hoping
00:21:30.580that he's actually going to go a lot further his own remarks are that he'll have this uh both sides
00:21:36.100sitting down and negotiating in 24 hours and the war will end in 25 and i absolutely believe him on
00:21:41.380that um because the point is that is the american people and large part of our audience here steve
00:21:48.660on the war room it's it's mad that that is behind president trump that doesn't want to see further tax
00:21:55.300dollars do do and this this this gets to some of the other articles later but you think the financial
00:22:02.420times look the economists in the financial times and i and i recommend people subscribe to them you
00:22:08.180will see how these are the information platforms for your overlords let me just be blunt it's the way
00:22:15.700the system works we're trying to disrupt that we're trying to stop it and we are making huge progress
00:22:21.460but the way the system works do you believe as you read this ben that it is not just the capitals
00:22:30.980that are worried about this but it's the financial times of london in the economist the information
00:22:35.700network that understands because they monitor the war room they see where this is going they see the
00:22:41.540intensity that people come on here so it's just not the european capitals they're actually sending out
00:22:47.060a flare that unless the the apparatus comes together and comes together quickly you're going to have
00:22:53.940this populist nationalist america first movement in the united states actually do the unthinkable
00:23:00.420which is to to because it's never happened before we've never it never happened in vietnam it didn't
00:23:06.340happen in iraq it happened against afghanistan we're actually a populist movement said we're going to choke
00:23:12.020out the money we're going to choke down the spending in your mind is this the capitals of
00:23:16.740london are as capitals of europe really saying this or is this the financial times in the economist
00:23:21.380sending up a flare that they better get focused or they're about to lose uh uncle sugar is going to go
00:23:26.900away well looking at the a lot of the the unsourced um anonymous quotes from senior european diplomats in
00:23:37.700this article that conveniently and i'm i'm not i'm not saying these sources don't exist on that the
00:23:43.220quotes are made up they're absolutely absolutely i think they are genuine but i think that illustrates
00:23:47.380the fact that that that that these sources are saying exactly the point that the ft is making here
00:23:53.140that that that is all a continue it's a continuum steve as you were saying that's the perfect word
00:23:58.740to this it's a continuum you've got the mainstream media you've got the military industrial complex
00:24:04.100you've got the fed um and you've got all these all of these and various organs um and then they
00:24:11.220they might not be formally or officially tied together but they are all in the business of
00:24:16.820keeping the the system going and that's what i'm going to come back to in the in the second
00:24:21.620segment keeping this system going because they make the money right they make the money and the
00:24:29.300ordinary working guy gets nothing but before you pivot off i also think it's a good time i want
00:24:35.300everybody when we talk about the system we talk about these articles more than ever because this
00:24:40.500whole debt ceiling uh debate is about the currency and about the destruction of the us dollar and
00:24:46.420that's why the ft the the the fiscal domination you've had of these governments and these uh legislatures
00:24:53.380in europe have led their central bankers also just to keep printing money that's stopping because
00:24:57.780the inflation uh it's starting to happen here but to be in the middle of this debate you need to be
00:25:03.700fully armed with as much information as possible that's why you go to birchgold.com slash bannon
00:25:08.820right now you get the three-part series the three-part series the end of the dollar empire all for free
00:25:14.740and you can download you can download the last part the one we just came out which is called the debt
00:25:19.540trap and this puts you right into the middle of what we're trying to use one framing device in the
00:25:24.660ukraine to try to explain how the entire system is essentially rigged against you and rigged for
00:25:30.500them so you go and get the debt trap you get all the nomenclature get all the process plus uh if
00:25:36.260you've got time go to the other parts of the site you can get the philip patrick and all his great
00:25:41.380advisors understand when the financial times of london's reporting or the accounts reporting
00:25:46.580that the central banks not so much in western europe although it's happening but the central
00:25:51.300banks in africa the central banks in asia in india in china in japan uh in russia uh and also uh in in
00:26:01.540parts of the caribbean central banks are buying more gold than they've ever purchased 2022
00:26:06.900was a record year and 2023 starts off even as a bigger year so you need to understand that we don't
00:26:13.060give personal financial advice on this show we give you macro which we think some of the macro
00:26:18.340trends are as wall street would call it uh but this is a trend that you need to now get into your
00:26:23.540personal life and get more information and you do that they got the 401ks the iras but it all gets
00:26:29.220down to precious metals as a hedge not just against bad times but also against inflation and the
00:26:35.700destruction of your currency what ben harnwell is talking about we're getting some more of these
00:26:39.620articles from the from the press particularly in europe talking about this situation ukraine
00:26:44.180ukraine is central to the rot we've got in this uh administrative state a deep state ben harnwell is
00:26:52.260going to join us from rome and i really appreciate he looks he's natalie attired on a friday evening
00:26:57.060here in the war room short commercial break back in a moment
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00:32:23.540war room battleground with stephen k bannon
00:32:32.660okay welcome back uh ben harnwell in rome ben are you are you coming in from the evening are you
00:32:39.940about to go out you look like uh natalie attired you look like a an englishman trying to uh pass
00:32:45.460yourself off as an italian playboy what are you going out or coming in um i should be going out
00:32:53.860shortly but i i like to think i like to think that i cultivate the image of being uh constantly a
00:33:00.980playboy that occasionally has to come in uh to the office to do some work but but my life but my life
00:33:07.700is is generally uh um that so um before moving on to foreign policy i just wanted to give an example
00:33:16.340um back onto the ft that we're talking at the ft article we're talking about just a moment or so
00:33:21.620ago because this is exactly how they work and then i'm going to take that further and and and unravel
00:33:28.820a little bit more in their foreign policy they've got a quote here and talking about what happens when
00:33:34.740the the 54 billion dollar aid package present aid package to ukraine expires and this is expected um to
00:33:44.100run out in about five months and they're talking about the the various dynamics um to do with
00:33:50.580reauthorizing reauthorizing further support which will take place uh this autumn in the us congress
00:33:57.780and here is here's how they do it here's how they tell you a bit of truth but then kick so much sand
00:34:03.620over it you won't actually realize um what what the dynamics are here's a quote that that they that the
00:34:10.420ft has um one of the few that is actually attributed to somebody um citing us democratic senator chris murphy
00:34:18.500who's a member of the senate foreign relations committee and he says what donald trump says has
00:34:24.340a lot of impact on how difficult this issue becomes in congress and that's true that's absolutely true
00:34:31.300because donald trump is now totally in command of the gop the deflection comes in the continuation of
00:34:38.260the quote and it says his position on ukraine funding will have a lot to do with what happens if
00:34:44.260we need to reauthorize support well steve that's absolutely wrong it's the other way around right
00:34:50.420right it's when it's the the reauthorizing of support will have a lot to do on what donald trump's
00:34:57.780position is uh and that's an illustration i think of how the mainstream media don't want people to know
00:35:04.500what is happening in the united states right now the support the anger uh that is building up against a
00:35:10.740failing regime okay so now i'm going to pivot over to this article um in foreign policy which i read
00:35:19.380every day when i'm not out being my uh playboy um image persona here's the here's the headline the
00:35:27.380era of neoliberal u.s foreign policy is over um now hold it now that headline that headline's tied to the
00:35:38.340first hang on that headline's tied to the first and for everybody in the war room posse the neoliberal
00:35:42.420neocon world order because that's what we live under right this post-war international rules-based
00:35:48.260order for foreign policy who's make their lives on the on supporting and promulgating the tenets
00:35:55.940of the post-war liberal international rules-based order this should this this should rip their hearts
00:36:02.260out i mean and this is one of our objectives one of our objectives to say that order has allowed the
00:36:07.540chinese communist party and other nefarious actors to game it to the destruction of the united states
00:36:14.260in the in the rise of our enemies on the eurasian landmass so i would normally when i saw that you
00:36:20.180said to me this morning it it should warm the cockles of my heart should it not ben harnwell
00:36:27.700well it should do because it it's true but what they're doing is it's not true for the reasons
00:36:33.300that they're explaining here's the the page first they tell you a little bit of truth and then they
00:36:40.020kick the sand a little bit so you won't really understand the context of that truth um so first
00:36:45.220of all the first of all i think that the the trick the conceit of the article is to deflect attention
00:36:52.820from really what the international rules-based order is a system of and do like a bait and switch and
00:36:58.900pretend that it's something else that has been rejected and um it says here that that the uh the
00:37:04.900neoliberal washington consensus which emerged in the 1980s is focused on and it cites four things here
00:37:12.580deregulation privatization austerity and trade liberalization we know there is some of that but
00:37:20.820let's just have a quick look a very quick look at those four attributes and say why that's not what is
00:37:26.900being rejected across the world deregulation is simply a a better means of running a lot of
00:37:33.860essential uh public services um sorry privatization that's privatization deregulization is simply getting
00:37:41.060the state out of private life and business life austerity what they call austerity is simply the the
00:37:48.820requirement that governments over the course of the economic cycle don't spend more wealth than that
00:37:56.580that uh economy has created and trade liberalization well there are aspects of globalization which
00:38:04.660are being rejected after one country and another but that's not really the issue but the issue here
00:38:10.580is that what is being rejected is what we're saying in the first segment what you just said in your
00:38:15.540introduction is this rules-based order which games the system in favor of the elites and leaves the ordinary working guy with absolutely nothing here
00:38:25.620here here is actually the truth it says here elite elite self-dealing creating a safety net for the rich
00:38:35.060and doling out market discipline for everyone else that is almost i would say bananism 101 because i've heard
00:38:42.260you say this so many times this is this is the perversion of the system which has socialism for the very rich and
00:38:49.220the very poor and everyone else is is abandoned with a sort of extreme radical darwinist uh uh sense of uh
00:38:59.460economics which gives them absolutely no support whatsoever uh and it's interesting here to see in
00:39:06.020buried in this article here is a little gem of truth which could have been said by you on on any episode of
00:39:15.060the war room um what they're trying to do here because oh yes it is the international rules-based
00:39:21.700order which is now its day is done and it is now passing what they're trying to do so you would think
00:39:29.700from anyone who's been watching 20 politics on 2015 onwards you would think that they might cite one of the
00:39:36.980principal uh proactive agents of this the the challenging of this order uh on the international
00:39:44.740scene and that's donald trump they don't cite it at all what they're trying to do and here's the
00:39:49.860deflection it suggests that actually this uh the the end of the international rules-based order is is
00:39:57.140actually being brought about by the current white house administration um and i will just read this
00:40:03.700this this paragraph a short paragraph and then i will just attack each single point in there to
00:40:10.660illustrate how absurd this is as an argument uh in what is supposed to be a serious foreign affairs
00:40:20.260um publication for for four decades the dominant view in both u.s parties was a neoliberal approach to
00:40:27.860economics at home and abroad that's broadly true okay but april 27 2023 marked the day the global
00:40:36.900justice movement's memo finally landed in washington so this isn't the trump revolution this isn't maga
00:40:43.860this isn't sort of uh trump coming down the golden staircase national security advisor jake sullivan gave
00:40:52.580the most significant foreign policy speech and thus far by any biden administration official it's
00:40:59.620effectively announced that the era of neoliberal foreign foreign policy is over see what is this this
00:41:05.700is a pathetic attempt on behalf of the mainstream media to take ownership for a failed regime of a
00:41:13.380movement which is latent in the american people and not only the american people but in uh countries right
00:41:19.300across the world that they are fed up and they have no more patience and they will not tolerate being
00:41:24.820impoverished hang on this this is the key point and this is why this is signal not noise and that what the
00:41:30.900show specializes in and making sure a working class and middle class neighborhood of a population
00:41:36.500understands it i want to hit rewind the neoliberal neocon world order is what we're trying to shatter
00:41:44.020and the reason is it's been built upon your back your tax dollars your pension fund money that have
00:41:50.740shipped the jobs over to china and your sons and daughters that have gone and fought in these foreign
00:41:55.140battles fought and died and bled on these foreign battlefields that order on the america first must be
00:42:00.660turned around to a nationalistic order based upon our sovereignty in the in the system that was set up
00:42:07.140uh and the treaty of westphalia the westphalian system based upon the nation state where the citizen
00:42:12.660is actually supreme what they're doing here they understand that we're taking down this order they
00:42:18.340understand the trump movement is taking down this order what they're trying to claim and this i want
00:42:23.460to go back and hit that again but they're trying to claim oh that they're seeing that it can no longer
00:42:28.500go forward and they're going to be they're going to be the crafters of what comes next that is a bald-faced
00:42:35.300lie that is a bald-faced lie this is collapsing because of the power of this audience this is collapsing
00:42:42.820and it gets back to the first article the ability to say we're not going to do this anymore in
00:42:47.620ukraine we're not going to send our sons and daughters we're not going to continue to fund
00:42:50.740this and it started out small and remember all the republican uh um you know thinking standard
00:42:57.940thinking it was oh you know they they they they bitch slapped uh ronda santis when he got a little
00:43:02.580bit out of line just to say oh no we have no uh focus on a border eight ten thousand miles
00:43:08.660away it should be in our southern border the breaking of that and understanding that the ft
00:43:13.620and the economists and the capitals of europe that the money's gonna uncle sugar is gonna cut the money
00:43:18.020off gets them to they understood this is happening this is why jake sullivan and others are out trying
00:43:23.860to spin it and try to craft what the follow-on is which is just going to be this under a different
00:43:30.580guise no we're going to break this system ben harnwell it's absolutely right steve um it's almost
00:43:39.380laughable that a magazine a newspaper like foreign policy will try to airbrush manga out of the photo
00:43:47.300which is what they're trying to do here they're trying to suggest that the revolution which showed
00:43:52.660its power showed its strength from 2015 onwards simply it is it has passed them by as if it never
00:44:00.900happened and they are trying to take ownership of the anger um and the disgust that is out there
00:44:06.500because exactly as you say they're going to try to re-propose what comes next and of course what comes
00:44:12.900next is basically going to be for them because this is this is why these people exist they exist
00:44:18.580to profit out of the system what comes next is going to be exactly what went before but packaged
00:44:23.220differently with different lanes and it won't work because people have wised up to and of course they're
00:44:28.660not going to be in power any anymore because they this is the thing about the america first revolution
00:44:34.900in the united states is that it really does me on this it really does we are what you see on the label
00:44:40.580is what's in the tin it really is an overthrowing of this product regime
00:44:47.780hang over a second okay here's what we're going to do i'm going to make a deal with you we're either
00:44:51.380going to get you on tomorrow on the saturday show if we can't you may have stuff you're doing over
00:44:55.060the weekend we'll get you on monday but you get too much to go through here and the first two have
00:44:58.260been so great there's a lot going on reason i want to do um ukraine tonight because it's central
00:45:04.820to what's going on in this apparatus as i said the beating heart of this ukraine situation
00:45:10.180and it's on many levels is at the heart of what how this illegitimate regime is trying to rule over
00:45:19.140us if we can pick the lock on ukraine so much of their what they're working on collapses around it
00:45:24.980that's why we've been so maniacally focused on stopping this madness and all i can say is that
00:45:30.580if they'd listen to war room and and if they had backed the war and posse early on there'd be i don't
00:45:35.860know 50 or 60 000 dead civilians in ukraine that would not be dead today that the country has
00:45:43.540actually been caught the havoc over there is is is heart rendering when you see these cities that
00:45:48.420have actually been leveled like cities worse than world war one many of them look like dresden
00:45:53.220in world war ii ben before we go uh real quickly how do people follow you over the weekend on your social
00:45:58.820media thanks steve it's uh my social platform media of choice simply my surname um at honwell there and
00:46:10.180i'm also uh there's a great article here um i put out um on the war room.org newsletter um uh which i
00:46:18.980write exclusively for that newsletter um and if folks want to get hold of these things they really should
00:46:24.260be registering for that newsletter via the website so that's how how how how do they how how do they
00:46:32.500register for the newsletter i want to make sure we're not we're not great about getting out information
00:46:36.420to folks how do people how do people uh get the newsletter it couldn't be easier just go to warroom.org
00:46:44.020there's a little box there that asks for your email address there's a pop-up thing as well that you can
00:46:48.900also use and just put in your your email address and click uh enter uh and that registers you for
00:46:55.140the uh the newsletters there are a number of newsletters that we send out but there there's also
00:46:59.460the the exclusive uh articles that i'm writing natalie's writing challenge um and it's a great
00:47:07.540these things aren't on on on our getter profiles so this is original exclusive material that is only there
00:47:14.020by the site yeah no it's incredible uh ben thank you go back to your business and we'll see you
00:47:20.100tomorrow thank you sir i'm gonna go to christine dolan um go back to your playboy roots right uh
00:47:28.100christine dolan joins us there's there's an event happening on a sunday in greenwich
00:47:33.700a connecticut uh the great l todd woods and of course his all his great news sites creative
00:47:38.340destruction media or cdm i guess they call it now christina tell us about what what's going on why
00:47:43.780it's important for people in the region uh to attend well steven thank you for having me on um
00:47:50.340this is actually an american conversations and it's a town hall concept that i created in 2014
00:47:57.620this is after um obama had said that isis was a jv team and so we i decided then what planet was i
00:48:04.580living on and we decided to see if there was a thirst for information of the stories behind the headlines
00:48:10.420at the time and it's a it's a former conversation and an engagement with the audience with the panel
00:48:19.300of experts and this one is particularly poignant right now because we're going to have people who
00:48:26.100are were born in other countries um we're going to have she then fleet who i think people know about
00:48:33.140who went before the school board in loudoun county a couple years ago kimberly fiorello who was born in
00:48:38.660south korea uh we're going to have professor jason uh hill who was born in jamaica as well as mary
00:48:46.420holland who was who was now with the team kennedy and kevin jenkins and our good friend jackie holman
00:48:52.100who's with the greenwich patriots but we're going to be focusing on the children and basically we're
00:48:57.540going to be covering anything from the sex indoctrination to you know all of the health clinics
00:49:03.620that they want to have and now they've decided there's only two genders voted on by some people
00:49:08.820in uh connecticut so it's going to be it's a format where people show up it's from four to six it's at
00:49:14.100the hyatt regency in old greenwich and it's it's a way for people to really figure out what's really
00:49:20.020happening especially with the books that are in the library because a lot of people are not going to
00:49:25.860the libraries and looking at the books you know you think uh by the way i want to give it again
00:49:32.100real quickly so we're out of time you would think that greenwich because it's the wealthiest city
00:49:36.500in the world maybe palm beach you would think the elite would be uh would be protected they're not
00:49:42.980it's in greenwich as much as anywhere else everybody's kids are exposed to this
00:49:48.500how do people go i want to make sure for the live part of it where do they go tonight on friday night
00:49:53.540where they go to sign up where they go to find out more information to be able to get there it's
00:49:57.940four to six at the hyatt in in old greenwich where do they go tonight to find out more about this
00:50:03.700they can go to our site steve cdm.press and then it has an events up on the right hand corner they
00:50:10.500just drop that down and the events invitation will be there are they are you going to live stream it
00:50:16.900also or can we get a video after us because we want to put this want to cut we want to cut segments
00:50:20.900or we'll get the whole we'll put it up on getter live are you guys going to live stream we're going
00:50:25.300to live stream it as well yes we will and we can we can you know we'll be distributing it um but yes
00:50:31.380i mean it's so we're going to we're going to we're going to put we're going to put it up we're going
00:50:34.900to put up on getter live when everybody know this i'll talk about more and sorry more we're going to
00:50:38.580put this up live to sarbeck say the panel sounds amazing absolutely amazing uh you were going to say
00:50:44.100why is it why is it yep i just want to say this to you it's important for people to know especially
00:50:50.980in the uh when people start talking about the money and the budgets the biden atm machine is throwing
00:50:59.540money to attack the kids with crt uh general ron bishop who's head of stars he's an expert on crt
00:51:08.500dei sel i mean people have to know that there is big money from the biden atm presidency that's going
00:51:17.940down to the states and they're basically targeting the kids and the families and anytime you tell a
00:51:24.180child you know not to say anything to your parents that's predatory that's exactly how predators
00:51:32.100keep secrets and they they coerce these kids so what i'm coming out and saying is if people did not
00:51:40.420get a handle on this in the sex indoctrination we are going to see a generation of pedophiles
00:51:48.260it is really on top of it christine and as especially we're going to be all over this right
00:51:56.980uh thank you very much we're going to live stream this i'm gonna make a further announcement on the
00:52:01.060saturday morning show to get to make sure we have a huge audience for this fantastic panel
00:52:05.380thank you for doing this the l todd woods team over at cdm media thank you ma'am uh crom i've only got
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