WarRoom Battleground EP 339: Taking Back The Whitehouse In 2024
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show to talk about the Chinese Communist Party's secret deal with the Catholic Church in China, and the implications for the future of the Catholic church in China. Stephen K. Bannon joins us from the roof of the convent that overlooks St. Peter's Square to discuss the deal.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're
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doing is blowing people off if you continue to look the other way and shut
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up then the oppressors the authoritarians get total control and total
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power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia it's another element that
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backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations is why this audience is
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gonna have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight all this nonsense all this spin they
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can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host Stephen K Bannon okay welcome
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uh to our second hour it is uh Monday 24 July year of alert 2023 I thought we'd be doing all
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house stories this week they're coming back I think tonight or tomorrow start voting tomorrow
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they're only here for a couple days and it's going to be one firefight after the next we'll be involved
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in it I believe just for my staff I think that the UFO briefing is Wednesday thank you very much
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we had a little cross wires there we're going to get Burchett on I think tomorrow to go through this
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and this is if you think the FBI the UFO things of misdirection play
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my point I made this at the speech at turning point we need all this information the the American
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people need to be treated as adults all the information should come out immediately and you
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make the judgment we're getting to all that tomorrow the next day one of my favorite um
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I guess websites news sites is life site news and one of the reasons they have guys like Stephen
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Mosher that right over there I mean the team over there is just incredible and the types of stories
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they break Stephen um I want to talk about this piece and if Memphis can please get it up as I bring
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Stephen on Stephen and I want to say uh it in this deal with the Chinese Comics Party the secret deal
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the first phase I think it was done in 2019 and announced because I was at the Vatican for the
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uh conference on the pedophilia and they announced this I think to kind of take the emphasis off that
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the secret deal was leaked or announced then and I gave a uh an hour I gave interviews all over I did
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an hour special from the roof of the convent that overlooks St. Peter's Square your update on this um
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on this story goes back to what my concerns were at the very beginning
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it's not just a humiliation for the church it's got to be a crushing blow
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to Lao Bajing to these dedicated uh Christians in this oppression in mainland China can you walk us
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through the humiliation of the Catholic Church at the hand of the Chinese Communist Party sir
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well it's worse than humiliation it's the absolute crushing and destruction of the Catholic Church
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in China which is not a recent import there have been Catholics in China for hundreds and hundreds
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of years uh going back to to the Middle Ages uh the Sino-Vatican Agreement was signed in 2018 it was
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extended in 2020 for reasons unknown it was extended again in 2022 and now it is in effect a dead letter
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it's a dead letter because uh Pope Francis has caved he has accepted an obviously compromised man
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a bishop shun as the bishop of Shanghai and I say bishop shun is compromised I can't read his mind
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but I say he's compromised because he's the uh the head of the Catholic Patriotic Bishops Conference
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the the bishops conference organized by and run by the United Front Department of the Chinese Communist
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Party which of course is very hostile to all religion and represents an officially atheistic
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communist party he is also formerly the head the vice the vice chairman of the uh Catholic Patriotic
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Conference of all Catholics in China so he's been he's been Beijing's man he's been the CCP's man
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for a long time now the way the secret agreement was supposed to work uh and we understand we haven't
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seen the agreement but this is what we were led to understand how it would work was that Beijing would
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propose a candidate that's bad right off the get-go and then the Pope would have a veto he would say
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no I don't accept him uh you have to come up with somebody else now that put the Pope in a weak position
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to begin with but I think he was counting on the goodwill the good intentions of the Chinese Communist Party
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uh that they could reach an agreement on bishops and there was a desperate need for bishops in China
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there are 104 dioces uh recognized by the Chinese Communist Party why we let them draw the dioceses and
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borders I don't know but they do and about 40 of them were missing bishops and so I think Pope Francis
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was led to believe that this agreement would allow him to appoint dozens and dozens of bishops for
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MTCs to meet the sacramental needs of Catholics well it hasn't happened we've seen in the last
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steven whoa whoa steven hang on hang on the the catholic the catholic patriotic association
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wherever they call it that's the state sanction or the state approved catholic church that's always
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been questioned as running dogs for the ccp you have an underground catholic church and what people
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in the audience should know that are not catholic the evangelicals the christian faith whether
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practices evangelical christians or some organized form of christianity or organized church or
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catholicism is i would argue they're probably more christians and catholics combined underground
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in china mainland china than there are in the united states practicing and she has said on many
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occasions this he thinks is his number one threat to his regime it it it am i clear are those facts
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accurate steven yeah absolutely there's been a huge spread of christianity in china over the last
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20 years a minister of education told a friend of mine 10 years ago there are probably more christians
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in china than members of the chinese communist party there are 94 million members of the chinese
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communist party so that would mean over 100 million christians you add uh the the catholics christians
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evangelicals the home churches together you've got a huge force in china and we know that chinese
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communist parties don't like any organization to exist outside of the control of the party itself not
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the family not mediating institutions of any kind not church groups certainly this is an officially
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atheistic regime but really it wants people to worship itself the chinese communist party runs a quasi
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religion it has its own sacraments it has its own liturgy it has its own acolytes some members of the chinese
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communist party and you're supposed to belong to the communist run church of china you're not supposed
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to be a catholic or a christian for that matter you're not supposed to be a taoist or a buddhist or a
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muslim or anything else xi jinping has said that any go ahead go ahead sir any religion xi jinping
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december 21 said this china's dictator any religion that does not teach its members to love the party
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and socialism is a quote-unquote backward religion engaged in illegal religious activities and will be
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stamped out so that's that's the uh the approach didn't didn't didn't cardinal didn't cardinal zen
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understanding that and cardinal zen one of the holiest men in the world and had been a fighter at when he
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was uh the head of the hong kong church in fighting this didn't he at the age and correct me if i'm wrong i
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think he was 90 get on a plane and fly back to the vatican to talk about the about the the problems
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with the mccarrick negotiated mccarrick the pet who was such a pedophile such a out of control degenerate
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pedophile that they had to take him away he was the american pope they had to take defrock him and he's
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now in an old age home somewhere in kansas laicized because he was so depraved he negotiated this deal
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that cardinal zen got on a plane to go to the vatican to tell the pope exactly what was going
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to happen and far as far as eventually the consecration of these bishops and he wouldn't
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see him for two weeks he sat there he would not see him and finally at the end he saw him for like
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five minutes patting him on the head and said we've got this and wouldn't even let him see the document
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um cardinal zen knew this everybody knew this in fact when i was there and it might have been in 18 for
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for the conference on pedophilia the biggest thing the church was fighting the official church was
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you couldn't have uh you couldn't have lay members have any kind of uh say so in the running of the
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church particularly you could never have the lay people at all in a parish ever uh throw their two
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cents in on who should be bishops because that deal is run by the vatican except in mainland china where
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they're prepared to turn it over to the ccp and and and zen and and war room and everybody at the
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time said hey this is going to lead you to an absolute church that's one thousand percent controlled
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by the chinese communist party aren't those facts uh line up do they not sir
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oh absolutely steve it was 2018 i met with the vatican secretary of state uh for an hour uh cardinal
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perilin was kind enough to meet with me i told him the chinese communist party would violate the
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agreement before the ink was dry on the paper i told him that the communist party would use the
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agreement to force catholics to either join the patriotic catholic church run by the communist party
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by the way or go to jail i told him that it would be a disaster for the church and the ultimate goal of
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the party was to crush the church in china he listened to me for an hour uh to his credit and then he said
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well the agreement has already been negotiated we're just waiting for the chinese side to sign it
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and i knew that i had failed to move him off the dime the agreement has now been revealed to be an
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absolute disaster the pope has been forced to accept as a bishop of shanghai the most important see
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in all of china with the most catholics in all of china and many many christians decide someone who
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is obviously compromised by the chinese communist party and will lead the the church down in whatever
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direction the party wants it to go uh bear in mind people need to know that the communist party
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is for example rewriting the bible in china so that the story of the woman caught in adultery does not end
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with our lord saying go and send no more uh it ends with our lord picking up a rock and stoning the
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woman to death himself it is a disgrace it is despicable rewrite of the bible which is the only
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bible the communist party bible now that will be allowed to be sold in china intended to destroy the
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faith of the people in china this is an all-out assault on freedom of conscience in china a freedom
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of religion in china and uh and we need to know that the goal of the sinovatican agreement the end goal
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of the communist party is not to allow um a separate safe space for catholics to worship in china or
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christians to worship in china the ultimate goal is to crush the church in china entirely to prevent
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the people in china from spreading the faith to their children the law is you cannot bring your own
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children to church in china anyone under 18 is not allowed to darken the doors of a church there are
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plaques outside the doors of the churches saying no one under the age of 18 is allowed to enter this
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is a complete surrender to the chinese communist party and it has led to great evil in china and great
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great pain among catholics who feel abandoned the church in china both the underground catholic church
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and the underground evangelicals they call house churches are more robust more vibrant more resilient
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than christianity in the quite decadent west steven mosher how do people get to you in your writing sir
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i'm at uh pop.org pop.org that's our website at the population research institute
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i'm on social media at steven w mosher and thanks for bringing attention to the plight of our
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co-religionists in china they're suffering greatly greatly their prayers go out to them uh steven thank
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you very much honor to have you on here always a pleasure let's play we got todd bensman uh as todd
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bensman warned you now for over a month on this show alone there's something brewing down on the
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texas border and on the rio grande let's go and play the cold open we're going to bring todd in
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the state of texas is now facing a lawsuit after it refused to comply with the doj deadline to remove a
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thousand foot wall of buoys from the rio grande the doj sent texas that warning letter last month arguing that
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the floating barrier meant to stop migrant crossings it's not authorized by the u.s army corps of
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engineers and it violates federal law and presents several humanitarian concerns in response to this
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letter the texas governor tweeted just a couple of hours ago quote this mr president texas will see
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you in court join me now nbc news homeland security correspondent uh julia ainsley who has more on this
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i think the overarching question here julia is what happens now lots of back and forth here
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where does this go looks like a lawsuit i mean they've now passed the 2 p.m deadline there was no
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commitment from texas governor greg abbott to remove those buoys in fact he doubled down saying it was
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well within his state's rights to try to do more to combat immigration than he argues the biden
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administration has done although if you look at the numbers it's easy to counter that and show that even
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though they've spent billions on this project they actually haven't been able to interdict that many
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migrants because essentially this is a federal law that falls to federal agents but what this means
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is that likely we should now hear the doj keep good on its promise and actually take the texas to court
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and abbott said we'll see you in court we're expecting this to now be a showdown it's interesting
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it's kind of like the shoes on the other foot here jasmine because time and time again we've seen texas
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lead other republican-led states to sue the biden administration over their immigration policies
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now we have the federal government suing texas over its immigration policies because they say
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not only is this inhumane they've seen they think this will lead to more drownings of migrants they've
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also see the concertina wire that texas has put up among this along the section of the border has led to
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a lot of medical problems a lot of people being cut by this wire they say it's also not only inhumane but
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it's impeding some of their work there because border agents are now having to stop to render medical aid
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rather than do their work along the border so this is really teeing up to be a case that could be a
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political showdown as texas governor greg abbott tries to show that he is able to do more on immigration
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than the biden administration okay um i want to make sure everybody in this audience understands that
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it's 100 because of the patriots in texas putting pressure on greg abbott because this is not a tough
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guy he does not want to do this he's doing this completely for political expediency because the
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citizens of the lone star state are demanding it and also obviously people around the country
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todd bensman you gave us a heads up on this i think four or five six weeks ago
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get us up to date on on exactly what's happening now what you're seeing is a lot of liberal pushback
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uh against the measures that greg abbott has put in place uh against the measures that greg abbott has
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put in place because those doing the pushback understand that it is working uh as they the
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old saying goes uh you're not taking flack unless you're flying over the target dropping bombs uh that
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are working i think that's what you're seeing you're seeing a lot of liberal ginning up of a of a of an
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opposition narrative against the texas governor against that barbed wire uh against the buoy system
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uh against the the abbott's pushback uh you know hold the line policy where they're acting kind of like
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uh nfl linemen not letting anybody through you're getting a lot of allegations that are uh patently
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untrue just completely fraudulent allegations that are getting a lot of traction in the liberal media
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and all of this we've seen a bunch of times we saw it primarily when trump was trying to put his
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wall in the big beautiful wall you started to see all these um you know critics come out of the
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woodwork saying it won't work it'll never work but if it doesn't work and you actually believe it
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doesn't work why don't you just stay home and never lift a raise your voice about it and i think that's
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what's happening you're seeing a lot of people raise their voice about what texas is doing right now
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because they know in their heart of hearts at the bottom of their guts that this is working and
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it's a threat to open borders and i think that's what we're seeing we're going to see a lot more of
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that that's well hang on hang on hang on hang on let me go back to you said something i want you to
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back it up you're saying there's a bunch of allegations about what dps is doing that are untrue
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and that's getting a lot of volume just walk me through a couple of those that you think are the
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top ones that are allegations you know for a fact as you bit there are untrue but the left-wing media
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and the open borders crowd are pushing these as fact sir for example the houston chronicle came out
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with a piece a hit piece about a week ago that claims uh that the texas dps has submerged barrels
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that are wrapped in razor wire so that they'll cut migrants who can't see them as they're swimming
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across or walking across uh that is untrue there has been investigation about the allegations and
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nobody can find any evidence of anything like this the administration over there is saying we would
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never ever nor did we ever order any kind of like uh razor wire submerged razor wire traps uh there are
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allegations now that the uh texas troopers are being really mean and hitting the uh pregnant women
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and pushing them into the water with their holding their babies and that kind of thing um i've seen no
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evidence of that the uh state of texas has seen no evidence of that but the uh media mainstream media
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uh is just going with those going crazy with those allegations uh building a narrative to the point
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where sheila jackson lee brought it up uh at a at a border hearing just last week saying what about
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that they're doing these things without any evidence whatsoever uh those have been debunked and
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you can't kill these narratives on the on the regular media once they're out there it's very
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difficult to kill those those narratives those are just a couple how dug in is abb abbott because of
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the political because people have his back there i mean and and this audience particularly has been
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outraged and they're finally glad that dps is doing something and we know all the sheriffs down there
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on the border particularly rio grand valley and other parts of south texas want to do something
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how dug in is texas right now are they going to fight this one to the bitter end yeah they're dug
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in uh from everything i'm hearing i have sources close to the administration uh from everything i'm
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hearing they're they're dug in they're ready to go to war uh legal war uh and we'll see what happens
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and i think they'll they'll want to see what happens too because you know if ultimately texas's right to
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put marine barriers is upheld maybe by the supreme court uh that's kind of a big deal that that says
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a lot about what a state can do and they'll be feeling free to expand on that marine barrier
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remember they always said that trump's wall would never work why are you doing this all of a sudden
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everybody became a fiscal conservative all these liberals became uh fiscally concerned we're wasting
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money on things that don't work because they know in their heart of hearts that walls work to a great
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extent on a whole lot of problems uh and that they just didn't want that and they're saying the same
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thing about the marine barrier you know it'll never work it's a waste of money you're wasting our money
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i've never known any any of these same liberals who are complaining about the money to have been like
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really supercharged about you know government finances uh you know being efficient with our tax
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todd let me give you a sound of freedom has been such a massive hit 125 million dollars it blew
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through it's continuing to grow sold out theaters make sure you go to sound of freedom uh or angel.com
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to get your tickets take people take everybody and then talk about it afterwards have a cup of coffee
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have an adult beverage discuss the film and push it out there's all this discussion we had liz you on
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earlier we've had people last couple days the 300 000 unaccompanied minors and particularly the um
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the 85 000 that the whistleblower says are are are missing um how big a deal is now justice department is
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taking down the stuff on the website about international trafficking of children
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how big from your reporting and we heard you know we had the whistleblower on the on the
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um uh you know james o'keefe media group but his whistleblower came out was a dhs person i think
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said there's all these brothels in the general houston area you've been down there that with the
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colonias or the clone the colonial things where people the cops won't even go into how big is this
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issue of child trafficking or trafficking of women for sex or the child trafficking and particularly the fact
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where the little kid's got something in his pocket it's got a number on they call it they don't check
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anybody how big an issue is that right now well i mean i have to fall back on dhs documents probably
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the very ones that they're pulling off the web right now that say that this i mean as recently as 2021
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that this is a 150 billion dollars a year international industry uh sex trafficking and children and young
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women and women uh i'm going with that i'm sorry that they're taking it down uh but guess what they
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do have something called the wayback machine i don't know what they're thinking uh but also um you know
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i'm in possession right now of two very recent uh biden doj prosecutions that are active right now
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of child sex trafficking in the houston area big ring uh court records up the wazoo uh showing the
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horrors uh that were depicted in the movie i just saw the movie myself a couple nights ago and then
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there's another biden court uh prosecution right now uh about a a bar in mission texas where the owner and
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her son you know tricked a bunch of women young 16 year old girls to come over the border illegally
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and they're going to work and they turned them into sex slaves and went on for 12 years like that until
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they finally got caught and now they're being prosecuted by the biden doj my point in mentioning
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that the biden administration is the one prosecuting these cases right now and i will write about these
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here soon as soon as i get a chance uh is that it's real it's actually happening uh in texas in
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houston the court records say it i've read them all it's a horror story that probably should have been
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the real movie uh the the movie itself um you know i just saw it and um you know you you have to
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appreciate that it drew attention to this major human scourge but i will say that if people are
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looking for a way to act on it what they ought to be doing is hammering your congressmen and women
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and your senators to force the biden administration to re-implement to re-install
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rapid dna testing at the southern border uh on may 31st they put the final stake in the heart
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of rapid dna testing that was the only thing that stood between adults bringing children over the
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border that weren't theirs and posing as a family group because family groups all get in quick
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release right into the country uh and inexplicably the administration on on right after inauguration
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in april uh really paired back what the biden administration was doing there it had i mean the
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trump administration uh had been doing they had ended fake families uh the smuggling of children
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over that border with this dna testing and then they killed it all together in may of of this year
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and i don't see a word about it why would they why would they do that why would they kill you why
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would they kill rapid dna testing tell you why because it takes about 45 minutes for the results to come in
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and that is too long for the administration they want to move these people through as fast as
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possible so that there's not a big build up in the centers for where they keep the the kids and the
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families and that's it it just took it takes an extra 45 minutes and they have to line them up when
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they come in off the border they put them in line to get their cheeks swabbed that's how it worked and
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right there in that line half of them broke and said okay okay you got me that's not my kid
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i mean it was an it was amazing hang on hang on one second i'm gonna just keep you through the break
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um caroline wren also on two billion dollars coming at you hard to steal the 2024 election on next in the war room
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are you tired of progressive corporations and exhausted trying to keep up with all the virtue
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signaling when you're simply trying to buy products progressive corporate america continues to push
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okay benson there's too much good stuff here and i want to keep it for another time i'm announcing
00:32:33.100
right now you're testifying on wednesday what committee are you testifying in front of
00:32:39.100
it's a house homeland subcommittee on border security uh and it's also it's a joint subcommittee
00:32:45.820
hearing uh with uh counter-terrorism and intelligence also okay perfect uh that's going to be at 2 p.m
00:32:54.060
approximately in the afternoon wednesday yes todd is going to join us after that on the evening show
00:32:59.100
todd until that time and by the way birchett's going to be able to try and get birchett tomorrow
00:33:03.340
birchett's big hearing is going to be on the ufos on wednesday so a lot going on this week
00:33:08.220
todd where did people go to get this everything all your writings on social media and of course
00:33:14.220
your book amazing overrun okay yeah so overrun is available anywhere books are sold online you know
00:33:21.500
anywhere uh my social media is bensman todd at twitter uh todd bensman at getter and i'm also at uh truth
00:33:30.700
social todd fantastic uh congratulations being called to testify and i know you're working on
00:33:38.460
your testimony your opening statement we're going to cover it wall to wall sir on wednesday look forward
00:33:43.180
to seeing your brother thank you can i get todd bensman in the house hopefully that'll be special
00:33:50.540
okay i want to get uh i got caroline rent okay caroline you got to help me out here i don't even know
00:33:57.260
where to start and there's so many it's such a target rich environment do we start with mit romney's
00:34:03.580
op-ed in the murdoch control news or do we go maybe we hold the two bay in because that's reality check
00:34:09.580
that stops all the happy talk and it makes sense because you understand why biden's not running but
00:34:13.580
let's let's go to let's start with i want to start with the big donor confab i mean because you're the
00:34:19.580
you're the one the interlinks between strategy and and donor money i want to talk about um
00:34:26.460
the big donor confab out in park city that cost him a fortune the mit romney op-ed and even the club
00:34:34.140
for the club for uh you know chinese growth that now is doing a patriots a patriots pack uh anti-trump
00:34:42.300
patriots pack for the for the 20 uh patriots let's start with uh desantis and park city ma'am do you
00:34:49.980
with the performance that you've seen out of this and the spending of the money and the just they should
00:34:54.460
have taken money out in a in the front lawn and just dumped on the lawn and burned it how do you
00:34:59.580
how do you even prepare for the thing in park city it was hilarious to me to read about a a conference
00:35:07.660
that they had where the campaign manager was apologizing for the overspending that they've
00:35:11.340
been doing on the campaign while they were at a five-star resort in deer valley actually in fact
00:35:16.300
an even more expensive area of park city so just like picturing this going on of these donors sitting in
00:35:21.420
this room being apologized to that we're no longer going to do these expensive events if you've read
00:35:26.620
there was i think like nine different you know uh desantis campaign reboot stories that i read this
00:35:32.620
weekend that were all the exact same and it's just hilarious to me that politico new york times wall
00:35:37.900
street journal washington post literally like ate up this garbage but as they're talking about this
00:35:43.340
don't i'm just picturing these donors in this room listening to this in a five-star resort all expenses
00:35:47.900
paid for all the all the food and drinks being paid for about how they're cutting back spending
00:35:51.900
and only going to do small events it's not like thousands of people were showing up to desantis
00:35:56.380
events anyway he was only getting like 40 to 80 people at any one event that he was doing so that
00:36:01.740
to blame the expenses thing on that is also a joke but uh the the wasteful spending is is very real
00:36:07.900
within this desantis campaign in fact i believe it was like over 220 000 a day that they have been
00:36:13.820
spending on that campaign to put that in perspective like scott walker had to drop out by september 20th
00:36:19.740
because he was spending 90 000 a day i mean the desantis campaign is spending three times that much
00:36:26.300
to literally just plummet in the polls so it's not looking good and i'm not really feeling the
00:36:31.900
reboot but but i want to walk i want to go back to that math because give the audience some inside
00:36:38.940
baseball the problem he has is that the money they're raising are coming from people that are
00:36:44.380
writing with a 3300 check or they're they're maxed out right the far hard federal dollars they don't
00:36:50.060
have a big grassroots online fundraising campaign because he's not connecting with people it shows
00:36:55.980
up in the polls so when you burn through that kind of cash it was worth it to spend an ordinary
00:37:01.820
extraordinary amount of his time just getting on the plane and flying other places to shake down
00:37:06.700
another 40 50 donors in in that the the um the death cycle the vicious cycle they're caught in now
00:37:14.620
well it's even worse than that because you can accept thirty three hundred dollars for the primary
00:37:18.140
thirty three hundred dollars for the general so a donor can write sixty six hundred dollars you can
00:37:22.060
only spend half of that so forty percent of the donations that came in were max out donations at
00:37:26.300
that sixty six hundred then you have to cut that in half that's money they can't even touch for
00:37:29.900
the primary election so when they're talking about the why they ended up in this like being
00:37:34.140
insolvent within their campaign is like no one i guess was thinking through those those parts of
00:37:38.380
it and if forty percent of the donors in their original and the first you know they were only
00:37:42.460
in i think six weeks into this race during that filing period and well all of your low-hanging fruit
00:37:47.660
wrote max out donations so who are they going to now because he's now almost in single digits
00:37:52.380
and i keep hearing about fundraisers that he's having they're struggling to get anyone there
00:37:56.300
they're struggling to be able to raise money so i just think that this campaign is going to go bankrupt
00:38:00.380
very quickly and i do think that the money that you're seeing going into some of these outside
00:38:04.460
groups whether or not that's coke or club for growth people have to remember that if you are
00:38:08.220
an investment bank or hedge fund manager you're not allowed to give to governors because governors
00:38:12.540
manage pensions and if your hedge fund does anything to do with a governor's pension there's
00:38:17.500
a pay-to-play laws that exist there i believe this is the money that was behind the 20 million
00:38:21.500
dollar transfer from the rga into his pack that happened right there in the last 90 days of the campaign
00:38:26.380
when desantis had 90 million dollars cash on hand and the rga transferred 20 million dollars to
00:38:33.020
desantis who had again 90 million cash on hand he was up 20 points they did that in the last three
00:38:38.060
months of his race this is more money than was spent in pennsylvania arizona and michigan combined by
00:38:43.340
the rga why did they do that because it was money being funneled through the hedge funds into desantis
00:38:47.660
that is not legally allowed to be spent through other avenues so i do think that's another thing that
00:38:52.060
you're seeing and that's why i think this money is also flowing through club and coke and these
00:38:55.580
different groups because it's to me it's still pay to play that's exactly what it is
00:39:02.140
talk to me about mitt romney's piece in the wall street journal he's making the argument he wants
00:39:07.500
the keebler elves down to one big elf otherwise you're going to get trump as a it's it's a it's
00:39:13.660
a cry for help from mitt romney ma'am yeah so mitt romney wrote a what i consider a dear john letter
00:39:20.060
to donors today in rupert murdoch's wall street journal and he basically was saying that they that any
00:39:25.500
donors they need to stop funding candidates by february 26th and tell them that they need to
00:39:30.940
drop out and consolidate around the strongest candidates beat trump and so the the idea behind
00:39:36.060
it is that if you are giving money right now to you know desantis or nikki haley or any of these others
00:39:40.860
you need to tell them that if you are not the leading polar by february 26 and you have to drop
00:39:45.100
out and consolidate but there's something that romney is failing in his logic which is that trump right
00:39:50.380
now is up i mean between 40 and 50 percent in these in in national polls also in the polls in
00:39:55.980
iowa new hampshire south carolina that we're seeing come out and on top of that trump is overwhelmingly the
00:40:00.460
second choice for people and especially desantis and ramaswamy voters and so when you add that up
00:40:05.900
if you take the desantis number which is dwindling but and and the vivek number and then the trump
00:40:10.860
number that puts them well over 60 64 and even if you're just taking half of those down that puts you at
00:40:16.220
56 so who are you consolidating at this point you're consolidating like mike pence's three percent
00:40:22.140
and nikki haley's four percent and bergam's one percent you're still getting to like 15 of these
00:40:27.660
consolidated folks to drop out so mit romney is uh also an ironic person to offer this advice
00:40:33.500
considering in 2016 if you remember he literally split his he endorsed both john casick and ted cruz
00:40:40.220
just saying anyone but trump so he's giving advice i mean i guess he maybe learned his lesson from that
00:40:45.420
time but it doesn't matter trump is too far up so this consolidation theory the time the time the
00:40:50.220
time this consolidation theory and you're going to hear more of it is that they're basically saying
00:40:54.940
before super tuesday if you go through the first four primaries essentially they got to pick
00:40:59.980
everybody's got to get back a one guy and that one guy has got to be the guy the one person nikki haley
00:41:05.580
whomever has got to be that's what they're that's what he's trying to signal that everybody can the
00:41:09.900
keybler elves can run around i mean he'd like him to drop out beforehand but no later than 26 the
00:41:15.260
donors got to tell guys if you haven't consolidated to be the leading competitor to trump going into
00:41:20.780
super tuesday we only got to have we have to have one person in back of them right this is the never
00:41:25.500
trump's uh strategy right right yeah and there was there was one insightful thing in this piece though
00:41:33.260
from romney so he said that donors may think that party leaders can narrow the field not so candidates
00:41:39.180
don't listen to party officials because voters don't listen to them either and the last people who
00:41:43.260
would ever encourage a candidate to withdraw are the campaign consultants who want to keep their
00:41:46.940
jobs and i found that insightful because it is true i mean our party we don't trust our party
00:41:51.420
officials right now you and i've talked about that endlessly about how they don't trust the rnc
00:41:55.740
and and it is true that like that they can't deliver that message and the only a lot of these
00:42:00.140
candidates they do just they listen to their donors and it's also why i think desantis came out so flat
00:42:05.420
and just died because immediately he gave a actually what i thought was a strong answer to tucker
00:42:09.420
carlson on ukraine and then he got you know called by a bunch of his wall street donors who you know
00:42:15.020
can't even technically be giving to him because of pay to play who said oh you can't give that answer
00:42:18.540
and so then he botched it again and then botched it again and what was the play of announcing on
00:42:22.540
twitter that was a donor play too oh you'll get all this money go with david sacks and elon must
00:42:27.020
it was desantis listening to the donor class that got him into this predicament and just killed his
00:42:31.420
campaign upon arrival and he's never going to be able to get out of it and so by romney saying that
00:42:36.700
point he's not wrong it is the donors who do make a lot of these calls but it's also why trump does
00:42:40.460
so well trump is not driven by donors that's why a lot of people say oh caroline a lot of these
00:42:45.180
donors are are they going to come home i'm like i think they will end up coming home but trump's
00:42:49.660
certainly not losing any sleep over it at night because he doesn't answer to the donor class he
00:42:53.900
answers to the people and that's why he's going to end up at 50 way or more in all of these primaries
00:43:00.220
um i want to go to biden while they're not even running a while they're not even running a campaign
00:43:08.620
a huge article i think it was in the washington post that lays out all these they've they've
00:43:12.540
outsourced these outside groups that have money who knows where it comes from it's two billion
00:43:17.980
dollars and as you've warned people this is the real campaign they're going to come and drop a two
00:43:23.580
billion dollar brick on our head in these battleground states the money comes from arabella
00:43:30.780
advisors that so that's we we know where it comes from and it isn't it is a it just blank check that
00:43:36.300
they have and so two billion is probably the the bottom of the barrel what they're going to spend
00:43:41.340
and you're already seeing it you're seeing that money being just they spend it very wisely i mean they
00:43:45.260
spend it in certain counties and just to drive up boat totals in philadelphia milwaukee detroit atlanta
00:43:51.260
and that is how we struggle so much to be able to catch up and you have if i were if i were running
00:43:55.820
biden campaign i wouldn't run a campaign why do they need to campaign katie hobbs didn't run a
00:43:59.660
campaign john fetterman didn't run a campaign joe biden didn't run a campaign they don't have to
00:44:03.980
campaign when they break the system and they are able to infuse and up their vote totals in these
00:44:08.540
major cities and we have not figured out a way to catch up and there's no leadership within our party
00:44:13.020
who's strategizing on how to do this if it were up to me i would say i think we probably need to
00:44:17.820
abandon attempting to convert independent women i think that we're gonna it would cost
00:44:23.260
billions of dollars to running tv ads and different things i think that we can run up
00:44:26.540
our vote totals in the rural communities we can run them up in the churches go find and register
00:44:31.340
more of the like hard you know 70 plus republican areas of the states and do what they're doing but
00:44:36.460
do it in the rural communities but i'm not seeing any one group sort of leading that and we are up against
00:44:42.540
so much money that it is terrifying but i i don't expect to see joe biden campaign necessarily like
00:44:48.220
at all he'll probably do a couple of events but he doesn't have the cognitive function to actually
00:44:53.180
show up at any of these events and nor does he need to because they know exactly how many votes i
00:44:56.940
need a bank to win with your your warning to to donors and to the trump campaign right now about what
00:45:06.860
reality is and you're 100 correct two bands the the the under not the over and it's arabella and
00:45:13.100
these other groups we don't know where this money's coming from what would be your warning of what
00:45:17.020
action needs to be forget the rnc that's a disaster all they're doing spending time setting traps for
00:45:22.700
trump in the primary but to big donors who are serious about saving the country even people don't
00:45:28.540
like trump and president trump and his senior staff what would be your warning today about what actions
00:45:33.900
they need to take immediately about the real threat which is the two bay in from the outside groups
00:45:40.300
it's hard to say that i would give a warning to the trump campaign campaigns are not built to have
00:45:43.820
to do this they can only accept it fifty or thirty three hundred dollars as we talked about and just
00:45:48.620
biden does not have a campaign it's not campaigns who should do this the campaigns are there to support
00:45:52.380
the candidate and make sure he can get his message out i think trump is running the best campaign
00:45:55.660
i've ever seen i think the operation around him is the best that i've ever seen but they will never
00:45:59.340
be able to raise the money to be able to do this it has to come from outside groups and 501c3
00:46:03.820
and 501c4s and not these super packs and so my advice is more to the donors stop and think and
00:46:09.340
ask questions before you write money because if you're just giving to super packs they make money
00:46:13.180
and are sent advice to run television ads and nobody's watching television ads it's not what's
00:46:16.860
winning elections it is the ground game and so i would find and support local groups that are going to
00:46:21.740
focus on registering voters in their communities and focus on communities that are what we call r plus eight
00:46:27.260
which means highly dense republican areas and focus on registering and turning out those people you
00:46:33.740
can do that through organization 501c3s can register voters and they can't ask which party
00:46:39.180
affiliation you are but that's why i say you go to the heavily r areas and so it is it's tough to say
00:46:44.380
exactly there's no one group that is a solution or answer to solving this problem right now there are
00:46:48.620
super packs popping up saying that they're gonna be the lead ones and get out the vote it's frankly
00:46:52.780
not even super packs that we should do and get out the votes it's 501c3s and 501c4s and so i don't you
00:46:58.380
know as far as advice to the trump campaign the bike says i i hope there are others outside of the trump
00:47:03.180
campaign organizing to help him do this because trump has enough on his plate right now he's
00:47:07.500
getting indicted every other day they're getting like their whole team is getting sued having to
00:47:12.460
go to court constantly they're having to run a presidential campaign that's being run beautifully
00:47:16.700
as evidenced by the fact that trump is crushing the rest of the primary field
00:47:20.140
and so we need to be asking ourselves what we can do to help president trump and his campaign
00:47:26.780
uh caroline your social media how do people get to you
00:47:34.860
caroline rand and that's on all uh platforms all platforms
00:47:40.780
caroline rand thank you very much for joining us with your hard-hitting
00:47:44.380
and uh rational and realistic advice thank you thank you
00:47:51.260
joe allen's been working on his project you make sure this book gets uh out by the 29th of august but i've
00:47:56.780
got a cold open let's hit the cold open and joe and i'll get joe in for a couple of minutes for his break
00:48:04.620
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your panera sandwich with the palm of your hand you've heard that right the restaurant chain partnering
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with amazon to test its palm reading payment technology we want to bring in naren a chowdhury
00:48:35.180
panera breads how exactly does this work because it might scare a lot of people i think use of
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biometric identification is happening all around us as we know on airports etc and supermarkets already
00:48:47.660
so i just see this as a natural evolution of using biometric technology to drive convenience loyalty
00:48:54.700
identification and payment swiping and tapping our cards and our apps are not just the easiest way to
00:49:00.940
spend money they're the safest way unless of course we misplace our phones or our wallets and then it's
00:49:05.740
a nightmare and soon your hand may be all that you need to buy anything that you can afford and many
00:49:11.820
things that you can't because a company called wallet more is developing a very teeny teeny tiny chip
00:49:17.980
you see it there in the x-ray that should creep you out um the chip is like the ones that are found
00:49:23.980
in smart credit cards or debit cards uh and the chip gets embedded just under your skin and makes your
00:49:29.420
whole hand a credit card it gets inserted into your skin a chip and not the type you eat but a microchip
00:49:36.220
has been implanted in brandon's left hand so after that was inserted and the swelling went down i'm able
00:49:43.740
to open up the front and back door to my house i can walk up to people and have them tap their phone
00:49:49.180
to my hand and instantly transfer my contact information my portfolio my covid vax card the slogan of the
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peace and safety cyborgs uh joe allen the book is dark eon it's a tour de force
00:50:06.540
that lays out all of this to people what did i just see well steve that was just a kind of prime
00:50:13.180
the audience to hear that amazon is now rolling out their palm payment system in every whole food
00:50:20.940
store as it turns out you know we covered this uh months ago actually we covered uh the amazon one
00:50:27.980
palm paint palm payment system and a number of other biometric systems uh since i've been on
00:50:33.740
and uh it's always been a question how will it catch on will people actually use it uh right now amazon
00:50:40.380
one palm payment is at three million users apparently that's climbing fast and fast enough for the
00:50:47.020
company to roll out at all whole food stores uh it's being rolled out obviously in panera bread as we
00:50:52.300
heard there it's being rolled out in entertainment venues uh including my own nashville's bridgestone
00:50:59.580
arena uh it's being rolled out in airports and that's just part of a much larger wave of biometric
00:51:07.020
identity being central to access to the goods in society uh that includes uh the uh the eye scan
00:51:16.300
that is used by clear you see that in airports all over the place and those lines are only growing
00:51:21.980
and maybe most insidious steve sam altman's startup world coin which is developing world id
00:51:31.100
which is also an iris scan it's a biometric blockchain based world identification system uh
00:51:38.860
that's intended to be normalized you know across the planet uh it's a slow growing i guess you could
00:51:44.860
say right now it's accumulating membership at about 40 000 per week according to fortune uh when we
00:51:51.340
covered this last month but all of this is to say that the fourth industrial revolution is certainly
00:51:57.580
upon us the convergence of the physical digital and biological worlds uh right now it's a matter of
00:52:05.500
consumer choice do you want to do it or don't you uh but i think that a lot of people in our audience
00:52:10.940
and really across the world realized after covid that things that are optional today may not be
00:52:16.780
optional tomorrow so you have to brace yourself and be ready to push back dark ian is the book how
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