WarRoom Battleground EP 344： Ukraine Communicating With US Security
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Summary
The Third World War and the early years of it, and the lack of preparation for it, the fall of the Soviet Union, the failure of the U.S. effort to prepare for it and the loss of the Battle of Kharkiv.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon okay monday uh 31 july year of the lord 2023 uh welcome uh back we've got a lot to
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get through and not a lot of time to do it so we're going to jump right into it and i want to talk about
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the third world war and uh in the early years of it so i've got ben harnwell in rome i got lieutenant
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colonel john mills that uh joins us to talk about the ccp aspect of this ben i want to start with
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you and here's the reason yesterday the mac daddy and drudge i realized drudge is not everybody's
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cup of tea it's it's really become kind of a uh elitist uh support the establishment site over the
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last couple of years ever since president trump won back in 2016 uh but they had a mac daddy up there
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that was everything about the spring offensive not really getting traction and the war being taken to
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russia and to moscow by zelinski walk me through what's transpired over the last 72 hours because i
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believe we're in even a more danger zone than we've ever been in this conflict and uh and things this
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could be a one of those hinge moments in this conflict that looks like it's metastasizing sir
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um good afternoon steve well i think that the probably one of the most in-depth accounts of the lack
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of progress of the counter-offensive was this article by cnn um in fact which which you posted
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on your feed over the weekend headline this um for memphis this i think is article number three
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um that you should have headline what ukraine must do to win in its southern push and what russia has in
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reserve and it's basically an article listing the fact that there's nothing going on i thought steve
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my the the piece of text which jumped out on the page and caught my attention here was um uh an
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account from an analyst called fan stefan gaddy um that cnn refers to as having actually been to the
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front lines of the war and has had extensive conversations with ukrainian military and here's
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what gaddy has to say he says it's not just about equipment there's no systematic pulling apart of the
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russian defensive system that i could observe and basically the whole of the article revolves around
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that specific insight there that the ukrainians are obviously asking more they're asking for
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f-16 jets and all the rest and what have you uh and if i have time i want to come on to the news
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today which i think is quite important that the talks have started and will start this week between
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ukraine and the united states about the united states offering um security guarantees that will
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last up until ukraine's supposed entry into nato which i don't think is going to happen um
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but i don't want to but hang on i don't want to bury i don't hang on i don't want to bury the lead
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here in the cnn piece because the the people they talked to particularly this guy that had been to
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the front and spent a lot of time it looked like from the beginning of the spring offensive
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he was talking about the depth of the of the of the russian defenses the the the the minefields
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everything and eventually said hey there's been an effort but unlike a lot of what the western
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media has been portraying this spring offensive really is not and he made a point i think it was
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him in this article that we've been preaching on here that combined arms is very difficult you heard
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all this happy talk about air support you heard all this talk about we're going to give him brightly
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fighting vehicles we had to give him tanks and i said look if you look at the battle of normandy
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that were honoring what the the the 79th anniversary of of the last couple of months we've been talking
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about not d-day but the whole battle this was the problem with the american army the american army had
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been trained to take the beach but there wasn't enough time to train them on this quite complicated
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combined arms of armor and infantry and artillery and close air support it's incredibly sophisticated
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it's complicated it's maneuver warfare and this guy and the article just kept saying they're not ready
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for it they they do things in piecemeal which is what you think an army does and we'll get mills
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in here in a second what an army does when they're not particularly well trained they do one part then
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they do the other part it's not their even their fault it takes years to do this ben harnwell
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there's um there is a phrase in here by from george baros of the institute for the study of war
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we're still talking from referring to this this article by cnn here um and by the way this institute for
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the study of the war it has actually produced some good research um on the present ukrainian
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conflict he says we have not seen any evidence of a battalion level attack and certainly no
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brigade level attacks if ukrainians are indeed committing full battalions on brigades now as
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reported that would mark a clear new phase of the ukrainian counter-offensive but there's there's no
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evidence of of this kind of push taking place uh so where does this where does this now leave us i
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mean how do we how do we have the backing of uh how do we have the uh backing they have our implied
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backing to actually begin an offensive into moscow within and with drone yeah well that's also i mean
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i don't you know i've seen the headlines on this right over the weekend i'm not sure this is actually
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the first time that's happened it it has happened um again as it happened before as on this occasion
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there's actually been no fatalities but it does seem to be a massive um escalation from part from
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on behalf of ukraine um obviously here my question steve on this is who and on each of those instances
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when when drones have been sent off to to attack moscow who supplied those drones which country which
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country that that is presently arming ukraine which country supplied the drones which are being
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used to penetrate right into um into deep into into moscow into russian territory that's a very
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important question i've not seen any i well i can i i can consume the answer hang on for one second i
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want to bring john mills in here colonel mills um to ben's first the first couple articles he's talking
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about about the spring offensive and the complexity of a combined arms maneuver warfare the ukrainians
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this is shows you the lack of seriousness of people are talking in congress and particularly
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msnbc and cnn just supplying them with tanks supplying them with bradley fighting vehicles
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then magically it's just not magically you have all sudden an army that can actually do combined
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our combined arms or warfare the last thing you want to do in combined warfare is go up against
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the prepared defense especially that has a lot of mine this is a prepared defense they're dealing
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with so a bunch of giddy biden staffers on the national security council throwing tanks and mraps and
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bradley's at them you need engineers that are prepared to breach obstacle belts like this you need
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the micklick mine mine throwing charge that's uh actually done right across the river from me at
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indian head where they test that out that's what you need uh breach a prepared defense and to be
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honest that's about the last thing you want to do is go up against prepared defense that's covered by
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fire you want to maneuver left or right you don't want if you all of all possible you want to avoid
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going right into the teeth of a prepared defense that's heavy with mines
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um national pulse jack montgomery one of the great writers that did have a piece over the
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weekend that talked about there there have been some taking of territory so we're not saying they're
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not it's quite small but where they've actually done it is where they've had massive artillery
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bombardments with this state-of-the-art american artillery to walk our audience through that where
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where you have seen them have breaches it's with this unlimited firepower that the u.s government
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has given them yeah this is uh they're trying to go forward from zaporizia to cut off uh the uh the
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isthmus that they have created in between the donbat and the crimea crimea what they're trying to do is
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drive to mary opel and cut it off so that the crimea is separated uh but they're going through
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artillery shells uh just at an unbelievable rate we only have two plants that make the 155 millimeter
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they're ancient they're both up in pennsylvania they're very close to each other both operated
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by general dynamics one the government owned one is actually general dynamics owned this is why we're
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shaking down the south koreans for 500 000 rounds and then uh they only south koreans only did this
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after there was a leak uh of a report that was embarrassing to the south koreans so they got to got
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shame and i know the south korean war reserves very well i used to be in my when i was in south
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korea that's something i had to watch very closely south koreans have a huge war reserve and we took
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them down for 500 000 rounds same with the japanese we're shaking them down for rounds this shows a
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total failure of the secretary of defense to ideologically will the defense industrial base
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into a uh arsenal democracy 2.0 by lecturing them on uh crt and how much help me out here how much is the
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155 needed in the defense of taiwan is it not is that why you do you have any problem with as much as
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we're we're basically shoveling into ukraine right now and with our allies that that uh the 155 will
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offer terrific support you know out to about 18 miles with with the old rounds now there's upgraded
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and and super duper rounds they can reach out potentially out about 30 30 to 50 miles uh so those that's
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actually a pretty basic core defense the taiwanese will need to throw up a wall of steel when the uh
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chinese uh attempt to move their their hodgepodge of civilian ferries toward the chinese coast
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but this is my point so hang on this is my point is the wall of steel that we're going to need in
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taiwan is that being impacted right now because where you're seeing advances from the ukrainian
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military it is an unrelenting barrage of a basically american artillery and artillery shells
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right now do you think that wall of steel we need in taiwan is being impacted by the beginnings of
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the spring offensive oh absolutely and several other line items that are being significantly
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affected high mark high mars those rounds go out to you could almost reach the chinese coast with the
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uh uh depending on which high mars rocket round you're talking about and uh they're trying to double
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they're trying to create uh create another 500 launch units not just the rocket the launch unit
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so hang on so so jack jack mcgomery hang on jack mcgomery's piece in the national pulse specifically says
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it's not just the 155 it's the high mars and wherever you're seeing any movement whatsoever
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of the ukrainian military is because of barrages relentless of high mars or do we have enough of
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that remaining to actually have about defend taiwan we've only given a small number of the launchers
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but that's irrelevant you know we we have in our inventory about 410 i was just checking the other
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day here about 410 in the american inventory and we told taiwan we're told we're gonna we're gonna
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get them taiwan now uh there was just a uh an approval uh to use excess defense article which is
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what they've been using uh the giddy staffers at the white house have been using to throw everything at
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ukraine now they finally approve that for taiwan so we can take out of that 410 launchers we have in
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our inventory uh i think we can spare 20 30 40 right now for taiwan uh so that would be a huge wall of
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steel way out in front of the 155s but we also want to be giving them patriot missiles we on
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what else besides patriot well we want to be using a patriot that that'll provide air control over the
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taiwan straits we also want to uh we we just produced this new uh setup called the uh typhoon
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which is a combination of tomahawk and sm6 that sm6 reach way inside china we need to put those in
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taiwan now we it sounds like we may have put some of those in the northern philippines it might be in
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okinawa right now but that typhoon combination would be ferocious deterrent and i think we can spare a few
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those typhoon setups okay colonel hang on for one second because i want to pivot back to i want to
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pivot back to uh to ben harnwell so ben the state of play is i've got a spring offensive that's either
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ground to a halt or where it has been successful is in back of intense artillery barrages but still
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hasn't taken a lot of territory and more importantly hasn't opened up the front for the combined arms
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maneuver warfare that's going to be necessary for the ukrainians to take back any territory
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at the same time zelinski and and uh in this crew have begun some sort of offense and he says he's
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going to do more offense into russia particularly into moscow's financial district and then out of
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nowhere you have this discussion that i don't remember being part of uh vilnius about uh american
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security guarantees and being long-term security guarantees that now has been leaked starting last
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night as uh is the top agenda of the biden regime can you walk me through that yes steve well this is
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a according to um always uh really the major updates are coming out on telegram these days as is with
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this statement from andre yermak um who's um who uh is uh zelinski's chief of staff and he said that
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this week um ukraine is starting consultations with the united states on providing security guarantees
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for kiev uh which they say uh will will last up until ukraine joins nato um but i don't think i don't
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think look i think one the one thing that i don't even think ukraine believes this steve i think this is
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something that we actually did learn um in vilnius was that the native powers are starting to implement
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their discard of of president zelinski and and to and to start to distance themselves from from the
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regime um and there was of course that famous photo which which captured i think for me that was really
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the epoch making photo of when that pivot when zelinski realized that pivot was actually starting
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beyond all the words don't forget that the thing i don't forget that the thing out of um vilnius
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was actually um a watering down of of the commitment i think it was 20 27 or something
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when nato first said that it had an ambition to for ukraine to join this time out in vilnius where
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when the evening before zelinski was pushing out his comments that it was absurd um that he wasn't
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being being given a timeline for a formal invitation all the rest of it the actual result of vilnius was
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you know what when the nato members think that uh that ukraine has made progress on issues like
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um democracy and when they are all uh of agreement then we will have the conversation it's actually
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taking a taking a step back uh i i think i don't think enough uh attention was given to that by
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by the mainstream media so so what does this what what do these security uh guarantees mean well really
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steve i would suggest that this is actually the face-saving maneuver that will be used to start
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negotiations with russia i think this will be the the principle around which the united states can
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can um secure uh i'm sure this will be that the white house is lying peace with honor
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but if you um if you think um that the the statements here that that yermak yeah i have an
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observation because he said that the security guarantees for ukraine will be concrete long-term
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obligations ensuring ukraine's capacity to to defeat and restrain Russian aggression in the future
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and of course we're not talking about ukraine's capacity to defeat Russia we're talking about
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the united states capacity to defeat Russia and this is really the whole point because in all of
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the statements that yermak put out there's zero reference not even implicit to the american people
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in all of this who are who will be paying for this um they'll be paying for it out of tax dollars
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and also presumably uh in other ways as well um and there's no there's no reference to zero
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not even america you're not even an afterthought in this conversation that that that the white house
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is is now starting with ukraine you're not even an afterthought a couple a couple things the reason
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i think that there's nothing um and i've got it uh to memphis here late but i want to put it up
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whenever you get it axios the lead story in axios this morning is about how the republican the
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republican base has now shifted dramatically to an america first and that there are beyond um
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lukewarm on ukraine that there are many voices in a big part of the party particularly in the primary
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they're just adamant about we spent too much money uh we're too involved in this kinetic war
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and they want to bring things ahead i think the biden regime what they're doing is trying to get
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ahead of this they're trying they're going to try to cut a long-term security arrangement that is
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tantamount to having a bringing ukraine as an ally without having to go to the senate and get approval
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of a two-thirds approval of an alliance of a treaty because they see right now they've seen in the
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republican primary and this axios story lays it out in in excruciating detail
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of how the populist right is adamantly opposed to this war in ukraine and particularly to any more
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funding so i think that this is a big element of now you're going to start hearing about they're
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coming out of nowhere security guarantees security guarantees security guarantees and i agree with you
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i think that is going to be an element at least some element of it that's that's going to be necessary
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as you've said we've said now for what over a year uh some element that's going to get people to
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the table negotiate but remember their point is not to get to a negotiated deal their point is to
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uh get ahead of the funding getting cut off there wouldn't be any of this going on whatsoever if
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they didn't see that the republican party and even with it some of the democratic party
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and some of the polling i believe that shows uh trump over biden is people are just tired of these
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forever wars one last thing uh ben and i want you to hang on for for mills but one last thing on this
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you've been the best you're called shot about wagner on the very day it happened on this show
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it was pretty amazing but now i got wagner with all the american uh money we're putting into the
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training of these military forces in in in uh in western africa you now have the situation in niger
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who pops up your favorite guy the head of the wagner group i thought he was banned uh forever
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from doing anything with with putin or anything with russia and next thing you know he looks like
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he's leading the uh the russian uh engagement and involvement in niger and other contiguous states
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around niger sir this is a this is fascinating steve really fascinating um and the uh the war in
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will be watching this particular development with with a great deal of bemusement i think so here's
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um this article here is is an article uh by john gitzy who's the the chief political columnist of um
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of newsmax and he's reporting on on on an article um in the financial times on friday uh expressing
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great surprise that as you as you say here's a man who uh yeah guinea frugosian if he has a single
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preoccupation one would have thought if one only formed their opinions reading the uh the mainstream
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press that this guy would be spending all his time avoiding rooftops and avoiding uh windows and but
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far from it um he's there in saint petersburg uh at this meeting that that uh that president putin
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hosted with 21 uh heads of state and heads of government from africa and in a hotel which was
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um it is owned by one of prugosian's relatives there's this photograph that has emerged pushed
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out on twitter with prugosian so they're laughing and shaking hands with the chief protocol from the
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central african republic um and i'm just going to quote right the newsmax analysis on this bearing
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in mind as you say that we've been pushing um uh a particular theory on on the whole escapade
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from the day from june the 24th the day of the so-called coup onwards um i'm interested to see
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that that this is now sort of filtering through to the rest of the press i will just simply read this
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this quote um because newsmax hasn't been particularly heavy on on the uh on this idea but but the observation
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is this the presence of prugosian widely reported to be in exile in bielorrus following the reported
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mutiny in russia raised immediate questions as to just what the uprising against putin was all about
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how serious for example was the varga group's uprising against putin which concluded with the
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russian strongman's denunciation of the insurgents and prugosian and many of his team settling in bielorrus
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well steve and this is the question is is perfectly made but i think though the war room had uh had
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started to to unpack this and some time to go but i'm delighted to see now uh that sort of uh out in
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and the other sort of uh our fellow journalists um uh in in uh in the mainstream media that they're
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that these questions it's a serious question steve it is a very serious question it's starting to be
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no no no it's here's look and the i think we do the best job of it but i would tell you it's a
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wilderness of mirrors it's you can't trust anything that's coming out from either side um they're
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always misdirection plays but i will tell you it's pretty obvious ben for the the siegfried line
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defense that the russians have built in uh in in eastern ukraine that the ukrainian military with all
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the training and might of the american army uh is finding incredibly difficult to penetrate you don't
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need the wagner really special forces barbarians defending that you can do that with other troops
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the movement of wagner into belarus and as you say what is it 49 miles from kiev is a major strategic
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and you've seen this guy the head of wagner group erosion he's everywhere he's in every meeting he's down in
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africa etc ben i know you've got a bounce i really appreciate you doing this uh colonel mill's got a
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lot we're going to deal with the ccp uh how do people get uh your analysis particularly we're putting
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up great content exclusive content on the site every day through the emails where do people go
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steve uh for the uh for the emails and and uh joe allen had uh had a great article out a couple
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days ago for that you just need to go on to warroom.org and register email address for my
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observation analysis come to find me on getter the best social uh media app in the world and
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simply type in my surname there harnwell at harnwell that's where i am at harnwell on that on
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getter and i've got some if you look at the most recent posts i've put out even if i say so myself
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my most recent sort of uh analysis is absolutely excellent i strongly recommend it thanks steve thanks
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so much god bless thank you i i love it i love the guy gives his own reviews thank you very much
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okay welcome back uh colonel mills stays with us colonel mills any other concluding thoughts you've got so far
00:32:33.640
on the uh on the failed spring offensive at least the date and this is one of the reasons we're so
00:32:38.740
opposed to this kinetic part of the ukraine war is what you're seeing is a massive loss of human life
00:32:46.080
of the ukrainian and this is continuing on and now this this war is going to metastasize you watch
00:32:52.380
the in this happens this is what happens in war this is what happened remember world war ii at the
00:32:58.440
end of it was a war of annihilation don't don't don't you know the the all the books are written
00:33:02.680
about the greatest generation they're all fantastic the heroism and valor of our fathers and grandfathers
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is unparalleled but that war got to be a war of annihilation at the end of it uh watch uh watch
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oppenheimer over the you know the the number one movie watch oppenheimer don't take my word for it
00:33:19.380
uh colonel mills any concluding thoughts on ukraine we got to pivot to the chinese communist party
00:33:24.280
particularly what is this a bioweapons lab in the middle of california yes yeah include enclosure on
00:33:31.820
ukraine steve i put the a lot of the fault and the responsibility right at the feet of my brothers
00:33:37.240
and sisters on the joint staff and the european command staff now experienced 05s and 06s uh no this is
00:33:45.660
all about a very very robust prepared engineer force uh uh your your combat engineers in the army that
00:33:53.960
know how to breach these kind of obstacles and i don't think that was focused on i don't think that
00:33:58.480
was ready uh when they did the spring offensive okay okay but but john here's okay hold it how
00:34:03.780
hold hold stop this is what i say they're talking about 70 000 mines they're talking about miles of
00:34:09.340
minefields that they dug in like the siegfried line or like the atlantic wall that rommel had
00:34:13.720
to greet us on d-day my point is we have satellites going over there non-stop we tell we know every
00:34:20.440
centimeter of the of the battlefield or the battle space in eastern ukraine how was that somehow not
00:34:27.840
communicated to people when you say it's the joint staff's problem in the pentagon or the nato joint
00:34:34.160
staff in brussels how could this possibly be we we had this fantasy and that's what is a fantasy
00:34:40.460
about we were going to be able to train ukrainian forces on equipment they're not prepared to use
00:34:46.920
on on a sophisticated combined arms artillery uh armor infantry close air support in a matter of 90
00:34:54.940
days when the united states military let's be honest they're the best in the world for fighting
00:34:59.160
this and that is takes years and years and years of training and working together so how did this
00:35:06.600
when you say it's your joint staff there's everybody knew exactly what the russians did
00:35:12.340
these minefields didn't magically appear at any everywhere the the the types of fortifications
00:35:17.940
they're talking about and tank traps and all that just didn't appear overnight it took battalions of
00:35:23.900
their own combat engineers to dig in why was this information either withheld from the ukrainian
00:35:30.240
forces are somehow not caught by the joint staffs colonel mills one word steve wokeness it has
00:35:39.980
destroyed strategic clarity of thought wokeness has destroyed strategic clarity of thought in these
00:35:46.480
matters the joint staff was the best staff in the universe it's never been better and it's been
00:35:52.280
destroyed uh systematically they knew they knew about this they failed to apply it they failed to
00:35:59.000
fully brief the hires uh the ukrainians everybody it's it's just shameful hey colonel i i want to
00:36:07.500
get into the ccp in this bio lab but i don't i'm running out of time give me two or three minutes on
00:36:12.720
what we're looking at and i'm gonna have you back on tomorrow because this is pretty shocking how did
00:36:16.000
how did essentially a bioweapons lab appear out of nowhere this is another thing people the the
00:36:21.500
administrative state and deep state monitors every breathing individual all your digital how did this lab pop
00:36:27.980
up in the middle of california with the types of things that we're finding out is now in there sir
00:36:32.720
owned owned by owned by uh people that are associated with and or part of the chinese communist party sir
00:36:39.480
this is the term advance force which i was checking the joint uh staff uh public facing website this
00:36:47.560
morning guess what joint pub three is now no longer public facing nor is the special operations joint pub
00:36:54.580
3.05 why because the chinese read everything advance force is everything you do in preparation
00:37:02.300
in advance of conflict this is phase zero or phase zero minus you prep the battlefield and so guess what
00:37:11.300
we were we were very good at it they've been reading our doctrine literature this bio lab is advance
00:37:17.160
force operations advance force could take many forms it can be cyber now we got volt typhoon uh it can
00:37:25.440
be chinese paramilitares coming across the border it could be fentanyl uh it can be now this this
00:37:31.500
bio lab we got a bio lab in reedy california this is insanity no it's unbelievable but hey
00:37:37.160
they read our stuff no let me i want to have you back on tomorrow because i want to combine it all
00:37:43.160
together the fentanyl the lab all of it uh colonel mills how do people follow you your site your
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writings your books and particularly your social media yeah thank you steve uh the book is the
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colonel ret john on substack getter and true colonel mills i look forward to having you back here to go
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through the ccp the advance uh the advance guard thank you very much incredibly disturbing okay i've
00:38:40.340
got a cold open for tim alberino let's go ahead and play it how do you know that these were not our
00:38:46.300
aircraft some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area we would see these objects uh being
00:38:53.660
at 0.0 mach that's zero airspeed over certain pieces of the ground so what that means just like
00:39:00.240
a river if you throw a bobber in it's going to float downstream these objects were staying
00:39:04.100
completely stationary in category four hurricane winds these same objects would then accelerate
00:39:08.940
to supersonic speeds 1.1 1.2 mach and they would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors that we
00:39:17.560
okay uh normally we have tim alberino on to talk about transhumanism and particularly his take
00:39:26.620
on the apocalyptic nature thereof tim you were quite focused on these hearings last week i keep
00:39:34.500
telling people if you have no interest in ufos or aliens or any that this is about the the deep state
00:39:40.200
the administrative state essentially telling that there is no consent to the government that congress
00:39:44.900
does there's no oversight here what is your take on what transpired last week in congress on this
00:39:50.760
well thank you for having me on steve um i think that what happened on wednesday july 26
00:39:57.100
was certainly the most important news story of my lifetime if not of the modern era i think it
00:40:08.240
eclipses world war ii i think it eclipses 9-11 because the implications are so the magnitude of these
00:40:16.860
implications are almost unbelievable unbelievable we're talking about um these witnesses who are
00:40:25.260
coming forth from the navy navy pilots ryan graves david fravor and most importantly david grush who
00:40:33.400
comes from the intelligence community the military intelligence community and what these guys are
00:40:38.300
saying under oath mind you is that the united states government and certain aerospace contractors have
00:40:45.160
been recovering crashed ufos and their non-human occupants for decades and have been working to
00:40:52.780
reverse engineer alien technology in secret and and the as you mentioned these crash retrieval and
00:41:01.620
reverse engineering programs are financed through a misappropriation of funds directed to other projects
00:41:08.600
this trade alberino hang on brother alberino hang on for a second me you've actually nailed it but
00:41:18.520
this is what i don't quite get the magnitude i want you to hit the rewind button and go back to the
00:41:26.520
beginning if you're sitting there watching this
00:41:29.400
it's of such and it has to be proven to be true but obviously they've gone out of their way to
00:41:38.580
suppress they've gone out of the way not to have whistleblowers they've gone out of the way
00:41:41.720
and here's how do i know that we just opened with congressman tim birchett from what tennessee to
00:41:47.880
out there uh in east tennessee who has been one of the driving force here he came on war room on tuesday
00:41:54.380
on the six o'clock show the same show you're on in fact the same exact time that you're on
00:41:59.280
to talk about the types of things they were going to go through in the hearing tomorrow and that's
00:42:03.260
because gates said you got to get birchett on because they're already playing games with the
00:42:07.760
whistleblowers that they're threatening the whistleblowers right now on the eve of it
00:42:10.640
birchett was relieved for cause at seven o'clock by comer who said hey oh by the way you're not going
00:42:18.920
to chair the committee tomorrow with no reason given you're not going to chair the committee i got
00:42:22.880
another guy's going to chair it you can still ask questions that's how much and that's how much
00:42:27.000
the national security state and the defense contractors even got to comer who's a pretty
00:42:31.340
straight guy so what is not a lot of our but what is the nation and particularly the media missing
00:42:40.200
about the gravitas of what happened last wednesday tim alberino i'm not sure that they're missing
00:42:46.340
anything i i get the feeling that they're purposely suppressing this certainly there's a dual narrative
00:42:52.280
happening within the united states military uh within the certainly within the intelligence
00:42:57.760
community there are factions within the intelligence community that that absolutely want to keep a lid on
00:43:04.620
this thing they don't want the american people to know anything about these reverse engineering
00:43:10.080
programs and and all of the implications associated with this and then you have another faction within
00:43:16.240
the intelligence community in the military and perhaps even in the aerospace programs themselves
00:43:21.100
uh that do want disclosure that do want to shed light on what's on what's been happening behind the
00:43:27.380
scenes as it relates to ufos crash retrievals and even non-human biologics as grush referred to them
00:43:34.740
during the hearing so there's a factional war going on behind the scenes you would think i mean as i was
00:43:40.900
watching the the hearing and listening to the absolutely mind-blowing allegations by the pilots
00:43:48.080
by the navy pilots and by grush you would think that that the headlines on fox news msnbc nbc news all of
00:43:56.300
the the the mainstream news organizations that there would be a bombshell headline something to this
00:44:03.240
effect the alien presence is real and constitutes a national security threat something to that effect
00:44:09.540
but instead of course they all had to cover they all had to mention it in their programming but it
00:44:17.240
was not like a 9-11 headline and and and that's really what the implications are here so that
00:44:22.900
demonstrates to me that there is this factional war taking place behind the scenes
00:44:28.880
um your book birthright is so important when we talk about the transhumanist
00:44:37.440
element of this because you talk about um you talk about in a spiritual and a religious context
00:44:43.680
one of the arguments i think of our betters and correct me if i'm wrong here is that to
00:44:50.920
roll this out to the american people they would not be prepared and you would have
00:44:55.500
the structure of not just morals and values but actually organized religion would collapse around you
00:45:01.340
that christianity uh islam uh uh the um the jewish faith would collapse with the basically the u.s
00:45:11.260
government coming out and saying that we actually had these aircraft or isha had non-human biologic
00:45:15.980
your thoughts well there was uh i believe it was in the 50s or 60s there was a famous brookings
00:45:22.360
institute report that dealt precisely with that question and they wondered how the religions of the world
00:45:29.740
would react to the revelation of extraterrestrial life and the conclusion was that it would create mass
00:45:37.240
chaos that society would indeed collapse and this has been one of the reasons one of the excuses i would
00:45:43.780
say why the intelligence community the military and so forth have decided to keep this information
00:45:54.120
secret keep it from the public um and to some to some extent that might make sense but this is
00:46:01.740
you know when you talk about the the deep state steve i call it the dumb state because i believe that
00:46:07.840
these secret access programs are very are being carried out in deep underground military bases in these
00:46:14.860
secret underground installations and so i call it the dumb state and i think it supersedes the deep state i think
00:46:20.460
this is as deep as it goes no pun intended uh this is the the biggest cover-up in that this is the
00:46:28.920
biggest cover-up in the world not just with the united states government because surely the united
00:46:34.140
kingdom surely russia surely china also have reverse engineer programs in which they're retrieving these
00:46:40.460
these these these ufo crashes and and attempting to derive uh technologies from them so and and again the
00:46:47.800
implications for mankind so far really it's crickets most people don't really care most people are
00:46:55.860
consumed with other things um some people who are paying attention are experiencing a form of ontological
00:47:04.020
shock right now their whole worldview their paradigm is being shattered those who are paying attention
00:47:09.280
and realize the massive implications that we're talking about here for society
00:47:13.700
tell me what um since you kind of get this at a very deep level tell me what you would like to see
00:47:22.600
we know from conversations with birchett and gates and anna polina luna and others and nancy
00:47:30.340
mace actors in studio last week uh that they are very quickly driving towards uh a skiff a present
00:47:36.780
because so many of the deflections were well i can tell you that yep i can't tell that in an
00:47:40.340
unclassified background so they're going to go to try to have a skiff uh briefing of several hours to
00:47:46.420
get to the bottom of it after that happens what would what would tim alberino like to see what what
00:47:52.720
do you think is the way to move this forward so it gets out of this thing of science fiction
00:47:57.300
of uh or or even more importantly for our audience what i'd say right now our audience is probably 70 30
00:48:03.800
we just don't have time for it the country's at stake there's a misdirection play it's a false flag
00:48:09.280
you know it's about little green men what would you like to see next to to get this conversation
00:48:15.780
out and inform it with more facts receipts and data well i want to commend representative tim birchett
00:48:23.240
he's he's really doing a phenomenal job and i'm sure he's getting all kinds of pushback behind the
00:48:28.840
scenes what i would like to see and i think what would take this to the next level because we have
00:48:33.740
navy pilots who've encountered you know ryan graves david fravor who've encountered these
00:48:38.660
craft who've seen them up close right who've tracked them in the super hornet jets um and we've had
00:48:45.120
member of the intelligence community david grush come forward and say he has knowledge of these
00:48:50.880
programs he's spoken to people on the inside that this is indeed happening and by the way it's been
00:48:55.380
confirmed by other members of the intelligence community community like colonel carl now now what i think
00:49:00.760
needs to happen next and and and this would take this this would take the whole scenario to the next
00:49:06.560
level is we need individuals from the from these aerospace contractors the actual the people the
00:49:17.580
individuals the engineers who are actually or have actually placed their hands on the technology
00:49:24.380
who have been in involved in the reverse engineering program have handled the technology and maybe even
00:49:32.880
dare i say interfaced with the entities the pilots as grush refers to them that i think is the next
00:49:40.820
logical step i think those individuals are coming forward but people have to understand their
00:49:46.380
grush one of the revelations from grush was was how he was being persecuted by hostile actors within the
00:49:53.940
government presumably the pentagon and the intelligence community and also by individuals working for
00:49:58.420
certain aerospace contractors who have directly threatened his life and the security of his family
00:50:03.460
so this is what's going on behind the scenes uh but and so it's very difficult for whistleblowers to
00:50:08.780
come forward from these aerospace contractors but in my mind that is the next that would be the
00:50:14.540
next bombshell that takes this to a whole nother level
00:50:17.320
brother alberino how can people get to your site where they get your writings and particularly all
00:50:25.040
your social media updating on this because i can tell you i talked to all the players afterwards
00:50:29.060
and over the weekend and this is the top of the first inning
00:50:31.960
uh you can find me on social media you on youtube timothy alberino instagram timothy alberino
00:50:38.040
uh twitter timothy alberino and i have a website timothyalberino.com
00:50:42.360
uh tim thank you so much for joining us and like i said this is uh the top of the first
00:50:50.100
and there's going to be a lot more going on uh in the days and weeks ahead but thank you for coming
00:50:54.100
on my pleasure steve thank you okay we're going to leave you tonight with uh paul robeson and joe hill
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