Bannon's War Room - August 20, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 351: Christian Resurgence In Europe; Holding Congress Accountable


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Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

165.06279

Word Count

9,371

Sentence Count

191

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

Stephen K. Bannon and the team at Jace Medical discuss the growing threat from China, cyber attacks, and why we must all wake up and do something to protect ourselves. Subscribe to our new bi-weekly newsletter, The War Room, to get notified when we deconstruct the latest headlines and discuss what s going on in the world. Subscribe now using our podcast s RSS feed.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.
00:00:15.740 I mean, every day you're out there.
00:00:18.460 What they're doing is blowing people off.
00:00:21.900 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,
00:00:24.260 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,
00:00:27.160 get total control and total power.
00:00:30.000 Because this is just like in Arizona.
00:00:31.720 This is just like in Georgia.
00:00:32.920 It's another element that backs them into a quarter
00:00:35.740 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
00:00:38.020 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
00:00:40.300 As we've told you, this is the fight.
00:00:42.200 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
00:00:46.140 War Room, Battleground.
00:00:47.880 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:51.500 Okay, thanks.
00:00:52.420 Welcome back for the second hour of our late afternoon
00:00:55.640 and early evening show, Wednesday, 9 August,
00:00:57.900 Year of the Lord, 2023, the 78th anniversary
00:01:01.560 or commemoration of Nagasaki.
00:01:05.920 As we talked about in the last hour,
00:01:08.760 one of the things that concerns us here at the War Room
00:01:10.780 is we have this unrestricted warfare
00:01:13.520 by the Chinese Communist Party
00:01:14.940 that's all over the United States.
00:01:17.120 Remember, they've declared war on us starting back in May.
00:01:19.560 I think it was Xi declared a people's war back in May of 2019
00:01:23.660 when they decided to decouple from certain technologies,
00:01:27.300 particularly social media technology.
00:01:29.700 They thought the social media guys
00:01:30.800 might have too much power of them.
00:01:31.960 They wanted to do it themselves for total social control.
00:01:36.240 Now we are hurtling towards a kinetic war
00:01:38.920 in the South China Sea, the Straits of Taiwan,
00:01:42.380 and the island of Taiwan.
00:01:44.500 And if you don't think we have a moral obligation,
00:01:46.800 which I understand a lot of people don't,
00:01:48.140 I can understand that,
00:01:49.560 just the feasibility right now.
00:01:52.000 Taiwan makes essentially the world supply of advanced chips.
00:01:56.340 It's not easy.
00:01:57.200 You cannot just move those factories.
00:01:59.640 If the Chinese Communist Party takes it,
00:02:03.060 they control 25, 30, 40% of the American economy
00:02:05.800 right off the bat.
00:02:08.860 I want to get into that in the geopolitics
00:02:10.840 of what's happening in Ukraine.
00:02:12.260 We got a lot of analysis,
00:02:14.440 some populist movements in Italy.
00:02:15.860 We're going to get to some populist moves finally
00:02:17.540 by Maloney in Italy.
00:02:18.420 We're going to get to all that with Ben Harnwell.
00:02:19.560 But I want to go back.
00:02:20.940 Dr. Sean, Roland, Dr. Roland,
00:02:23.880 I didn't have time this morning.
00:02:26.440 What I'm so enthusiastic about Jace Medical
00:02:28.540 is how you guys have taken Rosemary Gibson's
00:02:30.860 Warning to America
00:02:32.160 about the CCP's control of generic drugs,
00:02:35.800 the manufacturing of those,
00:02:36.900 and the control particularly of API,
00:02:39.740 the active pharmaceutical ingredients that goes in everything,
00:02:44.060 including vitamin C,
00:02:45.120 which I think they control 100% of that,
00:02:47.720 and how they would use that as strategic leverage over us.
00:02:50.260 And we really never got the lesson.
00:02:51.680 You're the first one to take action.
00:02:53.500 But you've actually gone and drilled down even more on it.
00:02:55.960 And I want to talk about the threat of cyber attacks
00:02:58.360 on our hospitals, sir.
00:03:00.080 Yeah, you bring up, I mean, those are all
00:03:04.500 really the main reason
00:03:07.580 why we started this company to begin with
00:03:10.640 was recognizing the existential threat
00:03:14.540 that exists when it comes to our supply chain
00:03:17.580 being wholly dependent on this overseas production
00:03:21.960 really out of China.
00:03:23.240 And, you know, there's no,
00:03:26.880 the list is long of reasons
00:03:29.680 why everyone should be concerned about this.
00:03:34.240 You know, we've been talking a lot lately
00:03:35.780 about just this, the building pressure
00:03:39.020 with all that's going on geopolitically
00:03:40.980 with China and other countries.
00:03:43.840 You know, just last week,
00:03:45.680 this was actually Thursday, Friday,
00:03:48.940 it was reported, the cyber attacks.
00:03:51.700 These are, these are the healthcare industry
00:03:54.480 actually turns out is the number one industry
00:03:57.440 that's targeted with these cyber attacks.
00:03:59.840 And we're starting to see them more frequently
00:04:03.000 and they're having larger impacts.
00:04:04.880 The latest shut down hospitals
00:04:06.680 that shut down primary care clinics.
00:04:09.420 We're so dependent now on computers with healthcare
00:04:12.340 from everything from your encounter
00:04:14.500 with your physician to the prescription
00:04:17.060 that gets sent to a pharmacy.
00:04:18.560 So it's just one more link in that chain
00:04:22.060 that has been disrupted
00:04:23.760 and will continue to be disrupted.
00:04:25.700 This affected multiple states around the country.
00:04:29.120 And it's just, it's just one of many things
00:04:31.820 we can talk about, right?
00:04:34.000 As far as reasons why people need to wake up
00:04:37.000 and do something to protect themselves.
00:04:41.260 Now, there's a lot more that goes into being prepared
00:04:43.860 than just what we do.
00:04:45.160 But this is, this is, this is our focus.
00:04:47.340 Our focus is prescription medications
00:04:48.800 is getting people supply of the medications
00:04:52.020 they take every day,
00:04:52.980 as well as emergency medications like antibiotics.
00:04:56.940 Yeah, but here's the thing.
00:04:58.260 And we have a lot of, you know,
00:04:59.580 we have MyPatriotSupply
00:05:00.820 and some of these great companies
00:05:02.900 that get you prepared
00:05:04.360 and make sure that you're ahead of the game.
00:05:06.520 But if you don't have your medicine
00:05:07.940 and the Chinese know this,
00:05:10.120 they understand this.
00:05:12.060 Look, they're making a ton of money.
00:05:13.480 It's primarily economic,
00:05:15.300 but it's just like in the PPE
00:05:17.020 during the early months of the pandemic.
00:05:22.380 They use that strategically as a weapon.
00:05:25.160 Every aspect of life,
00:05:27.060 of the economy,
00:05:28.260 of culture, of civilization,
00:05:30.260 whatever,
00:05:31.260 they will use to their strategic advantage.
00:05:32.940 That's why the unrestricted warfare,
00:05:36.160 the unrestricted warfare manual is theirs.
00:05:38.420 And they said, look,
00:05:39.280 we never want to fight the foreign devils kinetically
00:05:43.020 because they do know how to fight
00:05:44.760 and they got incredible weapon systems.
00:05:46.380 So what we want to do is political warfare,
00:05:48.120 information warfare, cyber warfare,
00:05:50.620 political warfare.
00:05:51.720 Those five, four or five areas of warfare,
00:05:54.280 we want to be aggressive
00:05:55.540 and we want to be on the offense.
00:05:57.860 When you just said that
00:05:58.980 in cyber attacks and hospitals,
00:06:00.440 the number one cyber attacks,
00:06:01.880 explain that for a second.
00:06:03.040 Give me a minute on that
00:06:04.040 because I think most people
00:06:05.040 are going to find that shocking.
00:06:06.000 They would think it would be
00:06:06.620 on our financial system
00:06:07.700 or on our grid.
00:06:12.800 Yeah, right.
00:06:13.420 Well, you know,
00:06:14.100 a lot of these cyber attacks
00:06:17.040 are financially motivated.
00:06:20.280 And we've been told
00:06:22.700 that some of the largest actors out there
00:06:26.240 come from these state-sponsored groups,
00:06:29.680 being Russia, China,
00:06:32.760 and some others.
00:06:34.020 And principally,
00:06:34.700 they are looking for,
00:06:35.660 they're holding these places for ransom.
00:06:37.800 They get your protected health information.
00:06:40.320 This is a rich place
00:06:42.020 to go looking for people
00:06:43.120 who are willing to pay
00:06:44.220 to get that information back.
00:06:46.940 And so, yeah,
00:06:47.500 so healthcare systems
00:06:48.420 are a prime target
00:06:49.960 just for financial reasons.
00:06:52.920 But I think you touched on it
00:06:55.800 when you mentioned
00:06:56.540 these other,
00:06:59.160 these strategic ways
00:07:00.420 of unrestricted warfare with China.
00:07:02.800 You know,
00:07:03.420 it is the ace up their sleeve.
00:07:05.800 They,
00:07:06.520 right now,
00:07:07.060 they're making all this money
00:07:08.120 because they produce
00:07:09.160 all these medications
00:07:09.920 that the world is dependent on.
00:07:11.560 You brought up the PPE
00:07:12.420 during COVID,
00:07:14.260 and that's a great example.
00:07:16.180 It wasn't just us
00:07:17.220 that came holding our hand out,
00:07:19.480 you know,
00:07:19.760 asking for this PPE from China.
00:07:21.200 It was global,
00:07:22.840 and we were just standing in line
00:07:24.100 with everyone else.
00:07:26.040 Imagine that situation
00:07:28.120 with life-saving medications
00:07:31.040 that our country,
00:07:33.000 the world,
00:07:34.180 is dependent on.
00:07:35.160 We're going to be in line
00:07:36.000 the same way
00:07:36.620 as everyone else is.
00:07:38.620 And these cyber attacks,
00:07:40.380 you know,
00:07:40.600 right now,
00:07:41.840 I get,
00:07:42.680 trying to get people
00:07:43.500 to come to the website
00:07:46.100 to go through the process
00:07:47.040 to get prepared.
00:07:48.340 That's why I do this.
00:07:49.980 That's what I'm trying to,
00:07:51.620 we're trying to get the word out.
00:07:53.140 And so we're trying to,
00:07:54.000 it's just trying to point out
00:07:55.700 to people,
00:07:56.240 these are things
00:07:57.160 that are happening right now.
00:07:58.040 These cyber attacks
00:07:58.900 are happening right now.
00:08:00.780 And if you think
00:08:02.160 that it's just going to stop
00:08:05.060 with one or two
00:08:05.600 because people are,
00:08:06.520 it'll be handled
00:08:07.120 by the government
00:08:07.740 because,
00:08:09.400 you know,
00:08:09.800 they are out there
00:08:10.740 trying to protect us,
00:08:12.200 it's not.
00:08:13.940 Things are getting worse,
00:08:14.860 and they'll continue
00:08:15.820 to get worse.
00:08:16.860 It's not an if,
00:08:17.720 it's a when.
00:08:18.660 And it's not even a when.
00:08:19.500 It is happening now.
00:08:21.760 It's 100%.
00:08:22.520 And by the way,
00:08:23.060 as we get closer
00:08:23.780 to the kinetic,
00:08:24.460 the cyber attacks
00:08:25.280 on the grid,
00:08:26.120 on the hospitals,
00:08:26.980 on the medical system,
00:08:27.920 on everything
00:08:28.360 is going to be
00:08:28.960 the leading edge of this.
00:08:30.500 This is what we had,
00:08:31.240 we talked about
00:08:32.060 a couple of weeks ago,
00:08:32.880 big,
00:08:33.140 big,
00:08:33.660 a huge piece
00:08:34.320 in the Wall Street Journal
00:08:35.140 where they said,
00:08:36.380 hey,
00:08:36.660 we understand
00:08:37.220 that we may be
00:08:38.140 on the path
00:08:38.560 of third world war,
00:08:39.700 but between cyber
00:08:41.000 and bioweapons,
00:08:41.940 it might be over
00:08:43.160 before it starts.
00:08:44.340 So,
00:08:45.020 Jace Medical,
00:08:45.620 where do people go?
00:08:46.680 The one thing
00:08:47.220 I love about your site,
00:08:48.040 you immerse people
00:08:48.740 in information on this,
00:08:49.660 so where do they go
00:08:50.360 to find out more?
00:08:52.820 Yeah,
00:08:53.200 yeah,
00:08:53.440 absolutely.
00:08:54.060 It's J-A-S-E,
00:08:55.860 jacemedical.com.
00:08:57.760 You'll see on there,
00:08:58.620 we've got a lot of information
00:08:59.500 about the process.
00:09:01.160 You know,
00:09:01.320 if you're new to telemedicine,
00:09:02.460 it is a telemedicine process.
00:09:03.880 You do need to enter
00:09:04.840 some basic health information.
00:09:06.100 It is reviewed
00:09:06.920 by a physician.
00:09:08.440 So,
00:09:08.920 if you're new
00:09:09.260 to that process,
00:09:10.240 we'll walk you through
00:09:11.240 before you go through it.
00:09:12.120 You'll see what you have to do.
00:09:13.740 We've tried to make it
00:09:15.100 as easy
00:09:15.820 and as accessible
00:09:16.900 as possible.
00:09:19.040 It really couldn't be
00:09:20.200 any easier
00:09:20.720 than sitting
00:09:21.320 in the comfort
00:09:22.360 of your home,
00:09:23.220 not having to make
00:09:24.220 appointments,
00:09:25.600 go through,
00:09:26.260 you know,
00:09:26.500 this whole long process.
00:09:28.020 Instead,
00:09:28.400 you sit down,
00:09:28.880 you go to the website,
00:09:30.580 there's,
00:09:31.320 we've got articles
00:09:32.220 if you're interested
00:09:33.160 in all the reasons
00:09:34.380 why we do this,
00:09:35.280 answer any of your questions.
00:09:37.160 But the process itself
00:09:38.500 takes about 10 minutes.
00:09:39.780 And within a few days,
00:09:41.840 you'll have these medications
00:09:42.880 shipped to your door.
00:09:45.160 Yeah,
00:09:45.560 I'm a huge believer
00:09:46.280 of the telemedicine.
00:09:47.760 Thanks for doing this.
00:09:48.700 Thanks for sending,
00:09:49.340 thanks for taking the warning
00:09:50.620 of Rosemary Gibson
00:09:53.180 and the war room
00:09:53.940 to heart
00:09:54.840 and taking action on it.
00:09:55.880 That's what we love.
00:09:56.940 Dr. Sean,
00:09:57.760 fantastic,
00:09:58.320 great work.
00:10:00.120 Thanks,
00:10:00.380 thank you.
00:10:01.040 Thank you for the opportunity
00:10:01.800 to get the word out.
00:10:04.160 Why are you doing it
00:10:05.080 on this cyber?
00:10:06.040 I got to make sure
00:10:07.180 you're manning
00:10:09.860 the ramparts
00:10:10.560 as you saw
00:10:11.220 from the morning show.
00:10:12.500 If this war room posse
00:10:14.320 can't organize
00:10:16.320 and help weaponize
00:10:17.700 the counter
00:10:18.640 to what's happening
00:10:19.420 with this billions
00:10:20.280 of dollars being spent
00:10:21.260 by these offshore billionaires,
00:10:23.960 you saw this in Ohio,
00:10:24.880 you're going to see it all over.
00:10:26.480 The last thing we can have
00:10:28.180 is to have you
00:10:28.720 under financial duress.
00:10:29.940 The easiest way to do that
00:10:30.940 since 90%
00:10:32.100 of your net worth
00:10:33.860 is tied up in your home,
00:10:35.040 is to have somebody
00:10:36.720 go in,
00:10:37.200 a cyber criminal
00:10:37.940 or even a state actor
00:10:39.080 go in,
00:10:39.980 take your title
00:10:40.620 on a cyber attack,
00:10:42.560 go to a hard money lender,
00:10:44.200 get a $200,000 second
00:10:45.760 on your home,
00:10:47.400 right?
00:10:47.780 And then all of a sudden
00:10:48.500 you've got the hard money lender.
00:10:49.700 And by the way,
00:10:50.060 the hard money lender
00:10:50.820 at the high rates,
00:10:51.800 when you go to them,
00:10:52.540 they're going to say,
00:10:53.000 hey,
00:10:53.120 tough break for a swell guy
00:10:54.240 or gal.
00:10:56.420 We closed the deal.
00:10:58.800 Somebody got the money.
00:10:59.940 We don't have it.
00:11:00.680 You're going to pay it back
00:11:01.500 because it's on your home.
00:11:03.560 If not,
00:11:04.080 we'll take your home.
00:11:05.480 So go to htl.com,
00:11:07.280 home title lock.com.
00:11:09.220 Go to the day,
00:11:09.880 check it out.
00:11:10.440 We cannot have you exposed.
00:11:11.900 We need you at the ramparts.
00:11:13.580 We can't have you worrying
00:11:14.820 about paying off
00:11:15.520 some hard money lender.
00:11:17.180 Ben,
00:11:17.600 I'm going to take this
00:11:18.140 a little bit
00:11:18.500 in different order
00:11:19.880 than we talked about.
00:11:20.660 What I want to do
00:11:21.260 is talk about
00:11:22.020 Maloney has stood up
00:11:25.020 to the Chinese Communist Party
00:11:26.260 and it's kind of shocked people.
00:11:29.040 Remember,
00:11:29.460 when we talk about this,
00:11:30.460 the impeachment of Biden
00:11:31.860 in this situation
00:11:33.040 with CEFC,
00:11:34.540 they're the capital markets
00:11:35.700 allocator for One Belt,
00:11:38.000 One Road.
00:11:39.320 Georgia Maloney,
00:11:40.200 when she came over here
00:11:41.060 to the United States,
00:11:41.800 it wasn't a great trip
00:11:43.100 as far as the MAGA faithful
00:11:45.640 and the people that love her go
00:11:47.580 because she did kind of embrace
00:11:49.920 the situation in Ukraine.
00:11:51.420 She did embrace
00:11:52.060 the Biden regime's
00:11:54.000 policies on that.
00:11:55.200 But then she went back
00:11:56.300 and she shocked people
00:11:57.780 by essentially telling
00:11:58.940 the Chinese Communist Party,
00:12:00.660 the CCP,
00:12:01.080 to pack up
00:12:01.860 and go home.
00:12:02.920 And remember,
00:12:03.540 Venice,
00:12:04.520 not just historically being
00:12:05.740 the launching point
00:12:06.700 for Marco Polo,
00:12:08.040 but such a key strategic port
00:12:09.820 in Europe
00:12:10.880 was going to be the railhead
00:12:12.240 of a lot of the
00:12:12.900 One Belt,
00:12:13.380 One Road.
00:12:14.420 Walk me through,
00:12:14.980 what got Georgia Maloney,
00:12:16.460 how's this played
00:12:17.160 in Italy?
00:12:18.240 First off,
00:12:18.620 because a couple of years ago,
00:12:20.160 remember we had
00:12:20.580 the policy sonar guy on here
00:12:22.060 who wrote the book,
00:12:22.920 hasn't been translated
00:12:23.760 outside of Italian,
00:12:25.100 but he wrote a book
00:12:25.900 about how
00:12:26.480 the Chinese Communist Party
00:12:27.880 with their deals
00:12:28.760 with the Vatican,
00:12:29.980 with their deals
00:12:30.660 with the corrupt,
00:12:31.700 you know,
00:12:33.260 political class in Italy
00:12:34.860 and particularly
00:12:35.380 some of the companies
00:12:36.240 that wanted to play Patsy
00:12:37.420 and talking about PPE,
00:12:40.100 even if you look
00:12:40.780 at the best case,
00:12:41.540 which was Navarro's,
00:12:42.920 hey,
00:12:43.040 they didn't let off
00:12:43.680 on purpose,
00:12:44.200 it was accidental,
00:12:44.680 but then they exacerbated it.
00:12:46.880 Northern Italy
00:12:47.360 was one of the worst
00:12:48.100 aspects of that
00:12:49.020 and on the PPE,
00:12:50.300 it was the Italians
00:12:51.540 that they gave
00:12:52.660 the hardest time to
00:12:53.460 until they bled out
00:12:54.400 some PPE
00:12:55.260 to help Italy
00:12:56.580 when he had such a problem
00:12:57.620 with the pandemic.
00:12:58.920 So how did Maloney
00:12:59.680 sit there
00:13:00.900 and say China,
00:13:02.600 there's the exit,
00:13:04.220 head out?
00:13:06.040 Well, Steve,
00:13:07.100 it's an interesting question
00:13:08.880 and I'd have to say
00:13:10.800 that Italians
00:13:11.600 are looking at this
00:13:12.940 with a certain degree
00:13:14.500 of scepticism
00:13:15.980 because the lens
00:13:18.100 that they're looking
00:13:18.900 at it through
00:13:19.780 is really that
00:13:20.980 the present
00:13:21.500 foreign policy issue
00:13:23.020 of the day
00:13:23.560 has been for a year
00:13:24.580 and a half,
00:13:24.880 which is Ukraine.
00:13:26.720 And the fact that
00:13:27.720 I think we first
00:13:28.800 reported this
00:13:29.520 on the war
00:13:29.980 like 12 months ago
00:13:31.440 that the government's
00:13:33.680 support behind Ukraine,
00:13:35.800 this is according
00:13:36.940 even under the previous
00:13:38.040 administration
00:13:39.300 of Mario Draghi,
00:13:40.860 the former president
00:13:41.780 of the European Central Bank,
00:13:43.280 that support,
00:13:45.040 full support
00:13:45.760 of President Zelensky
00:13:47.220 and Ukraine
00:13:47.620 did not have
00:13:48.880 a majority
00:13:49.780 of Italian support.
00:13:51.560 It was below 50%
00:13:52.540 even 12 months ago
00:13:53.860 and the situation
00:13:54.860 in that regard
00:13:56.640 has only deteriorated.
00:13:58.960 So,
00:14:00.040 the current withdrawal
00:14:01.420 from One Belt,
00:14:02.600 One Road
00:14:03.020 is seen in that
00:14:04.260 because the perception
00:14:05.760 here in Italy
00:14:06.340 is that when Italy
00:14:08.280 signed up
00:14:09.000 to One Belt,
00:14:09.920 One Road,
00:14:10.380 that was under
00:14:11.000 Giuseppe Conti,
00:14:14.020 the former
00:14:14.760 five-star
00:14:16.060 prime minister
00:14:17.100 and that was
00:14:18.200 very much
00:14:19.020 an idea,
00:14:20.040 the intention there
00:14:20.960 was to try
00:14:22.120 to separate
00:14:23.900 Italy
00:14:24.680 ever so slightly
00:14:25.640 from the very,
00:14:27.460 the perception
00:14:28.340 of a very
00:14:28.840 dominant presence
00:14:30.720 felt here in Italy
00:14:31.640 of the United States
00:14:33.280 military-industrial complex.
00:14:35.260 So,
00:14:35.700 it was an idea
00:14:36.300 to try and buy
00:14:37.560 Italy a little bit
00:14:38.980 of neutrality.
00:14:41.080 It's not so much
00:14:41.920 the issue of the CCP
00:14:43.060 and what people,
00:14:44.040 here in Italy
00:14:44.660 I'm talking about
00:14:45.240 the debate is,
00:14:45.920 it's not the same debate
00:14:47.140 as what is currently
00:14:49.060 taking place
00:14:49.940 in the United States.
00:14:52.480 It was more
00:14:53.160 perceived as an idea
00:14:54.960 beforehand
00:14:55.540 to try
00:14:56.760 to obtain
00:14:58.760 for Italy
00:14:59.180 just a little bit
00:15:00.280 of discretion
00:15:01.080 for its own
00:15:01.680 national movement
00:15:02.740 simply other than
00:15:03.980 being basically
00:15:04.920 a military base
00:15:06.680 on a peninsula
00:15:08.420 for the United States.
00:15:10.220 Now,
00:15:10.480 so when
00:15:10.920 Giorgio Maloney
00:15:11.980 pulls out
00:15:12.740 of One Belt,
00:15:13.860 One Road,
00:15:14.960 the perception is,
00:15:16.280 and obviously
00:15:16.900 if you're looking
00:15:17.320 at the newspapers
00:15:18.360 whenever there are,
00:15:19.940 like for example
00:15:20.440 at Vilnius,
00:15:21.420 who was there
00:15:22.160 right at the centre
00:15:23.280 of the photo
00:15:24.700 with Vladimir
00:15:26.600 Zelensky
00:15:27.480 and President Biden,
00:15:28.300 the very person
00:15:29.040 at the centre
00:15:29.820 of that photo
00:15:30.440 was Giorgio Maloney.
00:15:31.680 that's how Italians
00:15:32.960 are seeing this.
00:15:33.960 They're seeing this
00:15:34.500 not so much
00:15:35.460 as a fight
00:15:36.300 for Italy's independence
00:15:37.840 but a manoeuvring
00:15:39.240 of Italy
00:15:39.700 out of the orbit
00:15:40.900 of Russia,
00:15:42.120 China,
00:15:42.760 together
00:15:43.200 into the orbit
00:15:45.200 of the military
00:15:47.800 industrial complex.
00:15:48.920 That's really
00:15:49.500 how it's being seen.
00:15:50.520 So the idea
00:15:51.780 that there was
00:15:52.360 going to be
00:15:52.640 a popular
00:15:53.220 rising of support
00:15:55.140 for this
00:15:55.700 as there would be
00:15:57.120 in the United States
00:15:57.920 in a similar situation
00:15:59.180 isn't quite,
00:16:01.140 it's not quite,
00:16:02.540 it's not the conversations
00:16:03.420 I've been having today
00:16:04.380 for example.
00:16:05.800 I want to get
00:16:07.280 the geopolitics right
00:16:08.320 in the politics.
00:16:09.100 There's not a bigger fan
00:16:10.280 of Giorgio Maloney
00:16:11.120 than the war room
00:16:12.100 and Steve Bannon
00:16:12.760 and I know Ben
00:16:13.760 you think very,
00:16:14.400 very highly of her
00:16:15.320 also.
00:16:16.620 And I think
00:16:17.360 one of the things
00:16:17.800 that's caught us
00:16:18.340 by surprise,
00:16:19.100 particularly given
00:16:19.940 all the revelations
00:16:20.940 about Ukraine
00:16:21.780 and you've got
00:16:22.440 in the UK
00:16:23.640 you know,
00:16:24.440 ex-Boris Johnson
00:16:25.240 it's getting a little soft
00:16:26.440 and France is getting
00:16:27.300 a little soft
00:16:27.860 Germany definitely soft
00:16:29.520 and here in the United States
00:16:30.880 the American people
00:16:31.560 kind of shifted away
00:16:32.480 from it.
00:16:33.640 Is Maloney
00:16:34.180 and she was so
00:16:35.220 kind of effusive
00:16:36.140 and been effusive
00:16:37.300 about this
00:16:38.080 particularly the whole
00:16:39.120 trip in the United States
00:16:41.880 the only thing
00:16:43.360 the media really covered
00:16:44.340 because I think
00:16:44.760 it's what the Biden regime
00:16:45.640 put out
00:16:46.180 was her stalwart support
00:16:48.000 of the US's effort
00:16:49.800 in Ukraine.
00:16:52.100 Why is that?
00:16:53.120 Because it's just
00:16:53.880 it's just that
00:16:54.680 Italy needs the money
00:16:56.340 from NATO
00:16:56.940 or they need the money
00:16:57.620 from the EU
00:16:58.220 but she's just
00:16:58.880 she's become an anchor
00:16:59.940 tenant
00:17:00.340 in this
00:17:01.460 because I would say
00:17:02.800 that right now
00:17:03.820 you could probably argue
00:17:05.000 that Italy
00:17:06.080 is the foremost country
00:17:07.520 in NATO
00:17:08.700 that supports
00:17:10.000 the Biden regime's policy.
00:17:12.620 Italy and the UK
00:17:13.800 and in fact
00:17:15.020 the UK
00:17:15.500 has undergone
00:17:17.060 I would suggest
00:17:17.760 a parallel manoeuvre
00:17:18.980 for broadly
00:17:19.960 the same reasons.
00:17:21.180 I think when the UK
00:17:22.280 was dallying
00:17:23.100 with one belt
00:17:24.240 one road
00:17:24.700 it hadn't gone
00:17:25.320 all the way in
00:17:25.920 as far as Italy
00:17:26.880 had done
00:17:27.180 but the idea
00:17:27.880 I think there
00:17:28.380 was just to try
00:17:29.300 and buy itself
00:17:30.060 just a little bit
00:17:30.900 of space
00:17:31.540 from simply being
00:17:32.900 a military extension
00:17:34.020 an island military
00:17:35.220 extension
00:17:36.020 of the military
00:17:38.180 industrial complex
00:17:39.140 and again
00:17:40.360 America put pressure
00:17:41.560 on the UK
00:17:42.920 and the UK
00:17:43.460 said actually
00:17:43.900 no
00:17:44.140 if push comes to shove
00:17:46.200 we're going to throw
00:17:47.060 a lot in
00:17:47.500 with the United States
00:17:48.440 rather than China
00:17:49.420 so there's the same
00:17:50.700 sort of dynamic there
00:17:51.780 I would suggest
00:17:52.880 talking about
00:17:54.240 Maloney's visit
00:17:55.300 to the White House
00:17:56.460 was that about
00:17:57.860 10 days ago
00:17:58.560 yeah I mean
00:17:59.620 the reason is
00:18:00.220 it's because
00:18:00.860 perception is really
00:18:02.480 important when you're
00:18:03.280 trying to hold
00:18:03.940 an alliance
00:18:05.200 an alliance
00:18:06.100 which is not exactly
00:18:07.480 overflowing
00:18:09.620 with popular support
00:18:11.160 amongst its
00:18:11.780 respective
00:18:12.420 national participants
00:18:14.760 it's because
00:18:15.520 it gives a great
00:18:16.160 deal of credibility
00:18:17.280 for Joe Biden
00:18:18.260 to sit here
00:18:19.060 and say
00:18:19.300 look here's our
00:18:20.040 strong ally
00:18:21.260 Italy
00:18:21.680 and Italy is a
00:18:22.380 strong ally
00:18:23.100 militarily
00:18:23.900 of the United States
00:18:24.580 no doubt about that
00:18:25.800 like the UK
00:18:26.420 here we are
00:18:27.540 here's another
00:18:28.200 leader
00:18:29.100 European leader
00:18:29.880 here visiting me
00:18:31.000 in the White House
00:18:31.640 and look how
00:18:32.180 look how resolute
00:18:33.580 we are
00:18:33.940 look how united
00:18:34.740 we are
00:18:35.280 in fighting down
00:18:36.900 that evil
00:18:37.680 Vladimir Putin
00:18:38.460 and it gives
00:18:39.060 a great deal
00:18:39.860 of credibility
00:18:40.820 I think to the
00:18:42.000 US led effort
00:18:42.820 that there are
00:18:43.760 European partners
00:18:45.020 here who are
00:18:45.860 willing to toe
00:18:46.520 that line
00:18:47.060 it's not
00:18:48.320 it's not helping
00:18:49.260 Maloney I don't
00:18:50.680 think domestically
00:18:51.540 not with her base
00:18:52.920 now whether she's
00:18:54.180 able to say
00:18:55.300 you know you know
00:18:55.880 what I'm going to
00:18:56.600 manoeuvre my party
00:18:57.840 to the centre
00:18:58.640 that's that's
00:18:59.700 exactly what the
00:19:00.460 platform that she's
00:19:01.120 been since she
00:19:01.840 became prime minister
00:19:02.820 last October
00:19:03.640 she's been moving
00:19:04.440 her party
00:19:05.040 from its post
00:19:06.060 its post
00:19:07.320 fascist roots
00:19:08.700 into a very
00:19:09.780 much a centrist
00:19:10.720 party in the
00:19:12.620 Italian political
00:19:13.300 context
00:19:13.860 now whether her
00:19:14.780 overall strategy
00:19:16.600 is well you know
00:19:17.160 there's you know
00:19:17.880 there's no one to
00:19:18.620 the right of me
00:19:19.540 so basically I
00:19:21.680 can move
00:19:22.220 manoeuvre the
00:19:22.760 party to the
00:19:23.480 centre
00:19:23.760 expand my
00:19:24.960 appeal
00:19:25.560 I leave my
00:19:26.900 right flank
00:19:27.820 vulnerable but
00:19:28.640 there's no one
00:19:29.320 there to attack
00:19:30.180 me that's fine
00:19:30.720 and you know
00:19:31.300 I'm going to
00:19:31.760 hoover up extra
00:19:32.480 support on the
00:19:33.700 centre and even
00:19:34.580 perhaps on the
00:19:35.020 left that might
00:19:36.820 be the strategic
00:19:38.420 gamble that she's
00:19:39.500 playing it's going
00:19:39.960 to be too soon
00:19:40.700 to say to know
00:19:42.380 whether that works
00:19:43.120 out or not
00:19:43.900 but there is a
00:19:45.080 certain logic to
00:19:46.100 what she's doing
00:19:46.720 as there is a
00:19:47.320 certain logic to
00:19:48.000 go back to your
00:19:48.420 question to what
00:19:49.240 President Biden
00:19:49.920 was doing and of
00:19:50.760 course that the
00:19:52.100 readout that they
00:19:54.100 put out after that
00:19:54.900 meeting it does
00:19:55.740 it centred on the
00:19:57.020 one thing that was
00:19:58.020 important to the
00:19:58.860 White House which
00:19:59.800 is showing a
00:20:01.140 united European
00:20:02.000 front against
00:20:03.220 Russia
00:20:03.540 we've got a lot
00:20:06.920 to go through
00:20:07.460 with Ukraine
00:20:07.960 I don't know if
00:20:08.640 we have the time
00:20:09.240 to fully develop
00:20:09.980 it including the
00:20:10.580 Chris Christie
00:20:11.020 aspect of it
00:20:11.660 and others and
00:20:12.240 I think what we
00:20:13.000 do is hold that
00:20:13.680 for tomorrow
00:20:14.040 because my
00:20:15.580 favourite paper
00:20:16.200 in the world
00:20:16.560 the Financial
00:20:17.020 Times of
00:20:17.820 London has
00:20:18.820 actually a
00:20:20.020 draw-dropping
00:20:20.760 story today that
00:20:22.300 you highlighted to
00:20:23.060 me and I don't
00:20:24.440 know if we can
00:20:24.800 get it up on
00:20:25.280 screen but Ben
00:20:26.780 tell me about
00:20:27.480 this the Financial
00:20:28.280 Times of London
00:20:28.920 what are they
00:20:29.420 reporting something
00:20:30.100 that you and I
00:20:30.620 are very close to
00:20:31.520 but now it's
00:20:32.460 reached the most
00:20:33.780 important financial
00:20:34.480 paper the Wall
00:20:35.400 Street Journal for
00:20:36.040 the world has got
00:20:37.240 an in-depth report
00:20:38.000 on this what's
00:20:38.480 going on
00:20:38.920 so this is
00:20:41.160 headlined a new
00:20:42.340 Catholic counter
00:20:43.260 revolution is
00:20:44.220 underway in Europe
00:20:45.580 and this is
00:20:46.260 exactly not the
00:20:47.460 type of article
00:20:48.860 that you would
00:20:49.380 expect to see
00:20:50.400 in the financial
00:20:51.940 document it's very
00:20:52.560 well written
00:20:52.980 there are a
00:20:53.500 couple of
00:20:54.020 bum notes that
00:20:55.520 don't quite sound
00:20:56.820 right but
00:20:57.560 obviously because
00:20:58.360 it's not being
00:20:58.960 written by
00:20:59.360 someone from
00:20:59.880 within the
00:21:00.680 traditionalist
00:21:02.200 movement but
00:21:03.020 it's very
00:21:03.500 interesting that
00:21:04.080 this is now
00:21:04.620 taking an
00:21:05.860 article taking
00:21:06.580 up cover
00:21:07.240 space page
00:21:08.740 space in the
00:21:11.040 most sedate of
00:21:13.040 financial newspapers
00:21:14.240 so it's
00:21:15.940 starting point is
00:21:17.840 the World Youth
00:21:18.580 Day which has
00:21:19.140 been taking place
00:21:19.960 in Portugal which
00:21:21.100 is a huge
00:21:22.680 jamboree of
00:21:24.180 Catholic youth
00:21:25.260 which get
00:21:25.820 together every
00:21:26.320 two three
00:21:26.900 years and
00:21:29.080 it's been going
00:21:29.540 on since 1986
00:21:30.660 when John Paul
00:21:32.460 II launched the
00:21:33.340 first one in
00:21:34.120 Rome
00:21:34.640 in this
00:21:35.380 under John
00:21:36.820 just under
00:21:37.620 John Paul II
00:21:38.340 it was this
00:21:39.300 was drawing
00:21:39.860 millions of
00:21:40.700 people I mean
00:21:41.160 they had one
00:21:41.580 in Denver
00:21:41.940 Colorado I
00:21:42.700 mean this was
00:21:43.160 a massive
00:21:43.820 youth movement
00:21:45.280 under John
00:21:45.960 Paul but my
00:21:46.700 point is it's
00:21:47.360 it's quite a
00:21:47.940 big movement
00:21:48.340 it's not some
00:21:48.820 small marginal
00:21:49.560 thing
00:21:50.020 no this is
00:21:51.640 this is
00:21:52.040 absolutely the
00:21:53.100 event on the
00:21:53.980 calendar for
00:21:54.920 it's like the
00:21:55.280 Olympics if you
00:21:56.140 will as
00:21:57.560 a jamboree I
00:22:00.520 suppose would
00:22:01.460 be the correct
00:22:01.900 word for
00:22:02.380 Catholic youth
00:22:03.680 to pray to
00:22:05.320 build to
00:22:05.860 build and
00:22:06.860 fellowship with
00:22:08.240 other young
00:22:08.760 Catholics from
00:22:10.060 other nations
00:22:10.960 it sparks a lot
00:22:12.440 of vocations
00:22:13.440 and it has
00:22:14.420 done since
00:22:14.780 its beginning
00:22:15.780 a lot of
00:22:16.420 young priests
00:22:17.080 a lot of
00:22:17.520 young monks
00:22:18.540 a lot of
00:22:19.720 young nuns
00:22:20.340 will say
00:22:20.980 quite a lot
00:22:22.200 will say that
00:22:22.740 they discovered
00:22:23.580 their vocation
00:22:24.400 at a world
00:22:25.760 youth day
00:22:26.300 it's a
00:22:27.880 spiritual event
00:22:28.940 it was founded
00:22:30.000 by John
00:22:30.740 Paul II
00:22:31.260 as a
00:22:32.500 spiritual
00:22:33.120 renewal
00:22:33.820 event
00:22:34.280 obviously
00:22:35.020 under
00:22:35.780 everybody's
00:22:36.860 favourite
00:22:37.140 Pope
00:22:37.560 Francis
00:22:39.740 Pope Francis
00:22:41.200 and it's
00:22:42.280 less and
00:22:43.120 less of
00:22:44.340 a spiritual
00:22:45.260 event
00:22:46.080 and more
00:22:47.080 of a
00:22:47.500 political
00:22:47.980 event
00:22:48.340 and the
00:22:48.960 numbers reflect
00:22:49.560 this
00:22:49.780 you're talking
00:22:50.400 about the
00:22:50.660 millions of
00:22:51.080 people who
00:22:51.360 turned out
00:22:51.860 so here
00:22:53.820 according to
00:22:54.840 the FT's
00:22:55.300 figures
00:22:55.620 there were
00:22:56.360 of the
00:22:57.840 of the
00:22:59.740 354,000
00:23:02.240 pilgrims
00:23:03.520 that were
00:23:03.800 from France
00:23:05.760 42
00:23:06.600 excuse me
00:23:07.320 of the
00:23:07.560 354,000
00:23:09.040 pilgrims
00:23:09.740 that were
00:23:10.960 there
00:23:11.200 42,000
00:23:12.260 were from
00:23:12.960 France
00:23:13.580 and here
00:23:14.280 is a key
00:23:14.960 passage
00:23:15.680 that I'd
00:23:16.520 like to read
00:23:16.900 out
00:23:16.980 now just to
00:23:17.480 set the
00:23:18.060 context
00:23:18.400 before I
00:23:18.840 do this
00:23:19.320 the
00:23:20.500 traditionalist
00:23:21.120 movement
00:23:21.520 in the
00:23:22.120 Catholic
00:23:22.500 Church
00:23:23.320 was
00:23:24.280 really
00:23:24.920 founded
00:23:25.620 as a
00:23:26.680 response
00:23:27.340 against
00:23:28.600 as a
00:23:29.020 reaction
00:23:29.280 against
00:23:29.800 the
00:23:30.160 second
00:23:30.520 Vatican
00:23:30.900 Council
00:23:31.360 which is
00:23:31.660 a huge
00:23:32.500 huge
00:23:33.020 defining
00:23:34.220 ecclesiastical
00:23:35.180 event
00:23:35.580 in five
00:23:36.900 centuries
00:23:37.380 for the
00:23:37.660 Catholic
00:23:37.940 Church
00:23:38.220 it took
00:23:38.480 place
00:23:38.680 between
00:23:38.920 1962
00:23:39.680 and
00:23:40.900 65
00:23:41.440 and all
00:23:41.980 the
00:23:42.120 bishops
00:23:42.340 of the
00:23:42.640 world
00:23:42.860 came
00:23:43.280 and
00:23:44.140 participated
00:23:44.760 in that
00:23:45.160 and that's
00:23:46.420 really when
00:23:47.200 the Catholic
00:23:48.520 Church
00:23:48.840 for
00:23:49.020 traditionalist
00:23:49.600 Catholics
00:23:50.000 that was
00:23:50.480 really when
00:23:51.040 it started
00:23:51.720 to go
00:23:52.060 pear-shaped
00:23:52.600 and any
00:23:53.440 graph
00:23:54.120 that you
00:23:54.560 look at
00:23:54.880 any graph
00:23:55.640 whether it's
00:23:56.440 to do with
00:23:56.760 vocations
00:23:57.600 mass
00:23:58.260 attendance
00:23:58.820 belief
00:23:59.800 in the
00:24:00.220 real presence
00:24:00.740 of Jesus
00:24:01.200 Christ
00:24:01.780 in the
00:24:02.520 Eucharist
00:24:02.880 any of
00:24:03.220 these
00:24:03.380 the metrics
00:24:04.560 they all
00:24:05.580 go down
00:24:06.060 they're all
00:24:06.580 going down
00:24:07.120 and it's
00:24:08.500 been an
00:24:08.800 absolute
00:24:09.220 disaster
00:24:09.840 and a
00:24:10.620 tragedy
00:24:11.260 however
00:24:12.380 the reaction
00:24:13.240 against the
00:24:13.920 second
00:24:14.120 Vatican
00:24:14.480 Council
00:24:15.000 was led
00:24:16.300 by
00:24:16.880 an
00:24:18.300 archbishop
00:24:18.720 a French
00:24:19.140 archbishop
00:24:19.560 called
00:24:19.820 Marcel
00:24:20.400 Lefebvre
00:24:21.140 and his
00:24:22.340 followers
00:24:22.740 who were
00:24:23.580 eventually
00:24:24.220 he and
00:24:25.440 his priestly
00:24:26.420 society
00:24:27.340 they were
00:24:27.780 excommunicated
00:24:28.540 he was
00:24:28.980 French
00:24:29.500 right
00:24:29.840 this is the
00:24:30.400 point I'm
00:24:30.680 getting to
00:24:31.060 the
00:24:31.520 traditionist
00:24:32.200 movement
00:24:32.600 and as
00:24:33.180 far as
00:24:33.720 it really
00:24:34.340 exists
00:24:34.900 in the
00:24:35.220 world
00:24:35.440 is still
00:24:36.140 largely
00:24:36.480 based in
00:24:37.060 France
00:24:37.420 most of
00:24:38.080 the
00:24:38.180 priests
00:24:38.520 are
00:24:39.580 French
00:24:40.000 that's
00:24:40.540 where
00:24:40.720 the
00:24:41.080 majority
00:24:43.480 of
00:24:43.860 mass
00:24:44.060 goes
00:24:44.280 up
00:24:44.460 it's
00:24:44.760 in
00:24:44.920 France
00:24:45.160 this is
00:24:45.660 very
00:24:45.800 important
00:24:46.160 to the
00:24:46.500 point
00:24:46.700 that I'm
00:24:46.960 going to
00:24:47.160 get to
00:24:47.460 but here
00:24:47.920 I'm
00:24:48.060 going to
00:24:48.260 read a
00:24:48.980 very
00:24:49.380 interesting
00:24:50.500 paragraph
00:24:51.460 here from
00:24:51.980 the FT
00:24:52.360 while church
00:24:54.200 attendance
00:24:54.660 in France
00:24:55.240 continues to
00:24:55.980 scrape
00:24:56.320 along at
00:24:57.160 levels that
00:24:57.720 are a tiny
00:24:58.280 fraction of
00:24:59.640 those seen
00:25:00.260 in the
00:25:00.480 1950s
00:25:01.340 which is
00:25:01.640 absolutely
00:25:01.960 true
00:25:02.380 the poll
00:25:03.320 suggests that
00:25:04.200 young French
00:25:04.840 Catholics
00:25:05.280 today are
00:25:06.080 highly observant
00:25:07.320 and favour
00:25:08.180 the most
00:25:08.720 traditional
00:25:09.380 forms of
00:25:10.480 ritual
00:25:10.860 including the
00:25:11.740 Latin
00:25:12.020 mass
00:25:12.420 and
00:25:12.940 according
00:25:13.320 to the
00:25:13.660 political
00:25:14.000 scientist
00:25:14.820 Jan
00:25:15.200 Razon
00:25:15.600 de
00:25:16.000 Claude
00:25:16.320 this
00:25:17.040 group
00:25:17.460 which
00:25:17.940 wields
00:25:18.440 an
00:25:18.640 influence
00:25:19.380 out of
00:25:20.140 all
00:25:20.580 proportion
00:25:21.280 to
00:25:21.880 its
00:25:22.120 size
00:25:22.660 and I
00:25:23.140 might
00:25:23.280 repeat
00:25:23.540 that
00:25:23.800 later
00:25:25.180 I might
00:25:25.680 repeat
00:25:25.900 that phrase
00:25:26.800 later
00:25:27.340 thanks to
00:25:28.280 social media
00:25:28.940 and other network
00:25:29.640 work effects
00:25:30.720 is at the
00:25:31.460 heart of the
00:25:32.300 re-emergence
00:25:33.280 of conservative
00:25:34.360 Catholicism
00:25:35.280 as a
00:25:35.840 political
00:25:36.240 as well as
00:25:37.740 religious force
00:25:38.700 that is
00:25:39.420 a very
00:25:40.000 very
00:25:40.360 perceptive
00:25:41.200 well-written
00:25:41.800 and entirely
00:25:42.880 accurate
00:25:43.600 statement
00:25:44.560 and I'm
00:25:45.400 surprised
00:25:46.040 but delighted
00:25:46.780 to find that
00:25:47.400 in the
00:25:47.620 mainstream
00:25:47.940 press
00:25:48.280 because it
00:25:49.020 really ties
00:25:49.700 in the
00:25:50.080 relationship
00:25:50.660 you know
00:25:51.040 Steve
00:25:51.260 you've been
00:25:52.140 saying for
00:25:52.860 years
00:25:53.200 how a
00:25:53.920 culture
00:25:54.260 is
00:25:54.880 upstream
00:25:55.420 from
00:25:56.100 politics
00:25:56.500 this
00:25:56.860 here
00:25:57.320 this
00:25:57.560 paragraph
00:25:57.920 that
00:25:58.340 is that
00:25:59.380 statement
00:26:00.000 in full
00:26:00.760 because
00:26:01.300 the
00:26:01.680 relationship
00:26:02.220 in France
00:26:03.000 whereas
00:26:03.380 there are
00:26:04.020 and the
00:26:04.200 article
00:26:04.440 lists
00:26:04.820 the
00:26:05.040 relationship
00:26:05.540 between
00:26:06.400 traditionalist
00:26:07.440 Catholics
00:26:07.900 here
00:26:08.680 with
00:26:09.120 Fratelli
00:26:09.700 d'Italia
00:26:10.100 in Italy
00:26:10.840 and with
00:26:11.160 Vox
00:26:11.440 in Spain
00:26:11.920 whilst there
00:26:12.540 is a
00:26:12.860 relationship
00:26:13.460 there
00:26:14.140 it's far
00:26:15.340 more
00:26:15.660 symbiotic
00:26:17.080 and running
00:26:18.000 both ways
00:26:18.680 in France
00:26:19.360 the
00:26:19.740 traditionalist
00:26:20.280 movement
00:26:20.540 in France
00:26:21.240 you have
00:26:21.800 traditionalist
00:26:22.340 politicians
00:26:22.780 who go
00:26:23.600 to the
00:26:23.940 old mass
00:26:24.540 they go
00:26:25.140 to the
00:26:25.460 old
00:26:25.680 they go
00:26:26.140 to
00:26:26.320 traditionalist
00:26:26.940 events
00:26:27.280 they go
00:26:27.660 on the
00:26:27.940 marches
00:26:28.560 and
00:26:28.980 there's
00:26:29.940 an
00:26:30.720 interface
00:26:31.140 between
00:26:31.600 these
00:26:31.840 two
00:26:32.060 movements
00:26:32.640 here
00:26:33.400 I would
00:26:34.480 say it's
00:26:34.760 ever more
00:26:35.260 slightly
00:26:35.620 the case
00:26:36.140 that
00:26:36.520 right
00:26:36.820 wing
00:26:37.020 Ben
00:26:37.840 hang on
00:26:40.160 for one
00:26:41.060 second
00:26:41.340 we're going
00:26:41.640 to finish
00:26:41.920 this
00:26:42.100 we're going
00:26:42.600 to take
00:26:42.740 a short
00:26:43.020 commercial
00:26:43.320 break
00:26:43.660 we have
00:26:44.660 Dr.
00:26:45.280 Miriam
00:26:45.700 Grossman
00:26:46.540 and Brandon
00:26:47.040 Showalter
00:26:47.580 on deck
00:26:48.360 we're going
00:26:48.620 to take a
00:26:48.880 short
00:26:49.160 commercial
00:26:49.500 break
00:26:49.820 Ben
00:26:50.060 Harnwell
00:26:50.300 is going
00:26:50.560 to join
00:26:50.760 us
00:26:50.900 on the
00:26:51.080 other
00:26:51.200 side
00:26:51.500 we are
00:27:00.540 days
00:27:00.860 away
00:27:01.180 from
00:27:01.400 the
00:27:01.540 Durban
00:27:01.840 Accords
00:27:02.360 the
00:27:03.040 greatest
00:27:03.360 threat
00:27:03.740 to
00:27:04.060 the
00:27:04.220 United
00:27:04.420 States
00:27:04.740 dollars
00:27:05.180 global
00:27:05.820 dominance
00:27:06.340 in the
00:27:06.820 past
00:27:07.240 80
00:27:07.560 years
00:27:07.960 on
00:27:08.820 August
00:27:09.140 22nd
00:27:09.920 BRICS
00:27:10.340 nations
00:27:10.780 Brazil
00:27:11.400 Russia
00:27:11.840 India
00:27:12.260 China
00:27:12.680 and
00:27:13.040 South
00:27:13.320 Africa
00:27:13.700 are
00:27:14.480 expected
00:27:14.880 to
00:27:15.080 announce
00:27:15.440 the
00:27:15.640 launch
00:27:15.920 of
00:27:16.100 a
00:27:16.240 new
00:27:16.520 international
00:27:17.300 super
00:27:17.960 currency
00:27:18.380 fully
00:27:18.880 backed
00:27:19.320 by
00:27:19.580 gold
00:27:20.020 or
00:27:20.680 other
00:27:20.980 commodities
00:27:21.460 this
00:27:22.560 is
00:27:22.720 part
00:27:23.000 of
00:27:23.180 their
00:27:23.300 long
00:27:23.580 term
00:27:23.760 plan
00:27:24.080 to
00:27:24.260 supplant
00:27:24.660 the
00:27:24.800 United
00:27:25.040 States
00:27:25.400 and
00:27:25.740 the
00:27:25.900 dollar
00:27:26.200 as
00:27:26.780 the
00:27:26.940 cornerstones
00:27:27.480 of
00:27:27.640 the
00:27:27.740 global
00:27:27.980 financial
00:27:28.380 system
00:27:28.860 how
00:27:29.680 can
00:27:29.860 you
00:27:29.980 protect
00:27:30.360 your
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00:27:31.180 401k
00:27:31.780 from
00:27:32.040 the
00:27:32.200 fallout
00:27:32.580 from
00:27:32.760 this
00:27:32.940 landmark
00:27:33.280 announcement
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00:31:24.660 okay welcome
00:31:27.120 back ben i want to
00:31:28.080 make sure we make the
00:31:29.080 connection because
00:31:29.920 here in the united states
00:31:30.880 just so with the
00:31:31.680 evangelical community
00:31:32.840 the traditional
00:31:33.980 catholics the latin
00:31:34.980 mass catholics the
00:31:35.880 one that the fbi
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00:31:40.000 report is a breeding
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00:31:47.020 and they did that
00:31:47.760 focused on the
00:31:48.440 parish that my
00:31:49.360 parents my mom and
00:31:50.480 dad who were
00:31:51.140 hobbits
00:31:52.520 right
00:31:53.520 helped found back
00:31:55.240 in the 1970s in
00:31:56.540 richmond virginia
00:31:57.400 how that also
00:31:58.600 translates to
00:31:59.580 europe how the
00:32:00.220 traditional catholics
00:32:01.140 are tied to the
00:32:02.460 populist right
00:32:03.160 um there's a
00:32:05.520 similarity and
00:32:06.280 there's a
00:32:06.560 difference
00:32:07.140 the um
00:32:08.300 similarities and
00:32:09.480 to go back to
00:32:09.920 this statement
00:32:10.380 here that um
00:32:11.560 that the group
00:32:12.460 of traditionalist
00:32:13.260 catholics wields
00:32:14.240 an influence out of
00:32:15.320 all proportion
00:32:15.980 according to its
00:32:16.780 size that's true in
00:32:17.920 the united states as
00:32:18.660 it is true in
00:32:19.440 europe the
00:32:20.140 difference is in
00:32:21.280 europe we're very
00:32:22.380 much here on our
00:32:23.380 own isolated amongst
00:32:24.880 by the mainstream
00:32:25.620 church very much
00:32:26.580 isolated um and
00:32:29.020 we very much feel
00:32:29.760 ourselves counter
00:32:30.540 cultural and
00:32:31.540 against the system
00:32:32.480 i don't quite think
00:32:34.320 that's the case in
00:32:35.140 the united states and
00:32:36.000 the reason is even
00:32:37.800 though you might
00:32:38.460 think that on on
00:32:39.960 grounds of doctrine
00:32:40.860 the gulf is huge in
00:32:42.860 terms of the key
00:32:43.760 political issues the
00:32:45.660 the traditionalist
00:32:46.540 catholics are very
00:32:47.720 much fortified in the
00:32:48.940 united states by the
00:32:49.980 absolute numerical uh
00:32:52.680 huge numbers of bible
00:32:54.700 believing evangelicals
00:32:56.260 um that's really
00:32:57.880 strange as it might
00:32:59.500 seem that makes the
00:33:01.000 the the the ability
00:33:02.540 the presence of
00:33:04.100 of traditional
00:33:04.740 traditionalist
00:33:06.460 catholicism so much
00:33:08.020 stronger in the united
00:33:08.760 states and not just
00:33:10.220 traditionalist
00:33:10.820 catholicism also
00:33:11.980 mainstream catholicism
00:33:13.220 is very much renewed
00:33:14.600 um you know when i
00:33:16.460 visit the united states
00:33:17.300 whenever i'm talking
00:33:18.040 um or praying here in
00:33:19.540 italy with visiting
00:33:20.380 american catholics
00:33:21.540 they don't have to be
00:33:22.500 traditionalist but you
00:33:23.640 can see that they're
00:33:24.400 very much influenced
00:33:25.680 by uh by the
00:33:27.160 presence of bible
00:33:28.360 believing evangelical
00:33:29.620 protestant protestant ism
00:33:31.640 in the united states
00:33:32.540 um and that in a sense
00:33:34.920 this is why america is
00:33:36.020 the leading force in the
00:33:37.500 culture wars it's the
00:33:38.460 reason why why america
00:33:40.240 the church in america is
00:33:41.900 target number one it has
00:33:43.100 the crosshairs placed
00:33:45.300 right over it by francis
00:33:46.480 that he wants to take it
00:33:47.640 down because it is the
00:33:48.680 principal opposition now
00:33:50.680 to his agenda uh his
00:33:52.220 globalist uh somewhat
00:33:54.060 syncretical agenda so
00:33:56.560 it's strange it's
00:33:57.440 counterintuitive but it
00:33:59.140 is a discernible reality
00:34:00.260 that the real difference
00:34:01.660 fighting in the culture
00:34:02.840 wars which has ripples
00:34:04.640 which carry on further
00:34:06.020 outside the united states
00:34:07.000 take takes takes place in
00:34:08.860 the united states and that
00:34:10.100 takes together the very
00:34:11.240 best of catholics the
00:34:12.700 very best of uh bible
00:34:15.280 believing evangelicals
00:34:16.740 together so that that's
00:34:17.940 the difference um between
00:34:20.260 the two between the two
00:34:21.380 continents okay we're
00:34:24.120 gonna have uh we'll have
00:34:26.160 time tomorrow to go
00:34:26.840 through ukraine because a
00:34:27.660 lot going on there a lot
00:34:28.980 to go through including uh
00:34:30.360 you know christy who's
00:34:31.300 always um you know going
00:34:33.840 after president trump to
00:34:34.840 christy has such
00:34:35.440 tremendous experience uh
00:34:37.360 and is you know so many
00:34:38.500 amazing insights into china
00:34:40.800 and all this other stuff
00:34:41.700 he had this humiliating
00:34:43.500 embarrassing where he
00:34:44.860 basically i guess gave
00:34:46.320 handwritten lyrics to a
00:34:48.000 bon jovi song to zelinski but
00:34:49.480 i want to make sure we can
00:34:50.240 take our time and and go
00:34:51.620 through that in detail ben
00:34:53.400 until then your amazing
00:34:55.480 work on ukraine and all of
00:34:56.920 it how do people get to you
00:34:57.780 on social media
00:34:58.400 steve i saw the video of
00:35:00.540 chris christy with uh
00:35:02.120 president zelinski and
00:35:03.380 chris christy had in his
00:35:04.780 hands the handwritten lyrics
00:35:06.280 to it's my life i thought for
00:35:08.120 one moment he was going to
00:35:08.960 snatch it up screw it up in
00:35:09.940 his mouth and and eat it
00:35:11.400 fortunately he resisted the
00:35:12.800 temptation and he did give it
00:35:14.220 over to uh to new canyan
00:35:15.980 president folks if if you
00:35:18.260 want to follow me i'm on
00:35:19.520 getter it's tapping my
00:35:21.260 surname there at hornwell uh
00:35:23.560 also look out for me on
00:35:24.980 warroom.org and if you want
00:35:26.500 the links to the articles that
00:35:27.900 i've referred to talking to
00:35:29.340 steve uh this afternoon then
00:35:31.080 by all means uh come to the
00:35:32.780 the video on on getter uh or
00:35:35.240 rumble and i'll post the
00:35:36.360 articles through there thanks
00:35:38.200 steve god bless i can't
00:35:39.160 believe as good as good a man
00:35:41.060 as you are ben hornwell and
00:35:43.060 lived christianity you came
00:35:44.580 with that that trump-like hit
00:35:46.460 at the end but we'll go into
00:35:48.040 more about because it's
00:35:49.540 actually quite serious what we
00:35:50.740 know about what's happening in
00:35:51.900 ukraine's uh uh christy went
00:35:54.460 and made such a big deal that
00:35:55.620 he went as the only candidate to
00:35:56.740 go over there they had the big
00:35:58.260 you know bouquet of flowers and
00:35:59.700 all that and and now we find
00:36:01.320 out the buffoonism and he didn't
00:36:03.180 really find out they just spun
00:36:04.680 him they treated him like any
00:36:06.080 kind of person going through
00:36:07.460 there but we'll go so much
00:36:08.580 we got to in the ukraine i
00:36:09.660 don't want to force it in
00:36:11.280 here we've got a lot more
00:36:12.080 we'll go through it tomorrow
00:36:12.800 ben hornwell thank you so
00:36:13.840 much god bless steve one of
00:36:17.680 the reasons i i we're going to
00:36:19.040 do ukraine tomorrow we've got
00:36:20.280 uh we've got is dr grossman up
00:36:22.680 yet she's not okay we're working
00:36:24.000 on doctor i found uh from tony
00:36:26.020 lions has told me that this
00:36:28.200 amazing book by dr miriam
00:36:29.820 grossman uh which is
00:36:31.100 absolutely critical in this
00:36:33.300 understanding of this transgen
00:36:35.200 radical transgender ideology lost
00:36:37.420 in translation he's actually
00:36:39.040 being suppressed by the
00:36:40.040 bookstores i think barnes and
00:36:41.060 noble in particular but i want
00:36:41.980 to get dr grossman up here in a
00:36:43.400 minute as soon as we work at the
00:36:44.440 technical but i've got the
00:36:45.880 great brandon showwater is with
00:36:47.920 us on this article in the
00:36:49.620 christian post brandon just get
00:36:51.380 it take a minute or two and just
00:36:52.660 get us up to speed on where we
00:36:54.360 are in this whole battle because
00:36:55.660 as i've told you before i think
00:36:57.760 people a little overwhelmed where
00:36:59.900 this is kind of come out of
00:37:00.960 nowhere and now i just saw the
00:37:02.660 other day because you've
00:37:03.540 alerted me to be on the watch
00:37:04.880 for these things i think the
00:37:05.680 american what pediatric society
00:37:08.120 just came back and reiterated
00:37:09.620 their stand on this i think
00:37:11.260 what's caught most americans by
00:37:12.580 surprise given the radical
00:37:13.940 nature of this is how so many
00:37:17.620 institutions in our country seem
00:37:19.280 to be on board with this i mean in
00:37:21.340 a minute hopefully we get dr
00:37:22.560 grossman up you're going to find
00:37:23.500 out like the bookstores don't want
00:37:25.740 you know amazon these people don't
00:37:27.060 want dr grossman's book out they
00:37:29.020 want to suppress the the
00:37:30.620 information out there that's a
00:37:31.980 counter argument to what they're
00:37:33.060 doing so can you get us up to
00:37:34.140 speed on where we stand with this
00:37:35.360 entire this entire ideology
00:37:37.560 well yes steve and the american
00:37:41.220 academy of pediatrics which you
00:37:43.260 know if you go to your doctor's
00:37:44.160 visits if parents are listening and
00:37:45.420 they take their kids to see the
00:37:46.640 pediatrician they'll often hear
00:37:48.360 lines like the american academy
00:37:49.680 of pediatrics recommends it's
00:37:51.600 recently been reported that they
00:37:52.940 are they haven't reiterated their
00:37:54.020 stance yet but it is in a huge
00:37:55.700 move they have agreed to sort of
00:37:57.360 revisit and do a review of the
00:37:59.440 evidence which as you know you
00:38:01.340 asked for the sort of the big
00:38:02.260 picture of where this ideology
00:38:03.760 stands europe is backpedaling
00:38:05.900 sweden finland france uk state of
00:38:09.500 florida here in the united states
00:38:10.480 but they've all done reviews of the
00:38:12.580 literature and they found that
00:38:13.880 treating gender dysphoria gender
00:38:15.340 confusion with hormones and surgery
00:38:16.860 is very low quality evidence and now
00:38:19.080 they recommend psychotherapy and
00:38:20.540 which is the first line of
00:38:23.100 intervention if you have a gender
00:38:24.700 distressed child but here in the
00:38:26.680 united states as i've said often
00:38:28.980 were sort of stomping on the gas but
00:38:31.640 and just going full bore into this
00:38:34.220 ideology treating medicalizing
00:38:37.080 children who are very vulnerable
00:38:38.540 often suffering from an array of
00:38:40.180 psychiatric comorbidities with a very
00:38:43.220 low quality protocol but that's i just
00:38:47.560 want to i want to just go back and
00:38:49.120 reframe that the rest the evidence is
00:38:51.960 the evidence but as the rest of the
00:38:54.080 world seeing the evidence they're
00:38:55.540 backing off and said look we got to
00:38:56.940 review this more and maybe we start
00:38:58.720 with psychotherapy the psychiatrist
00:39:00.600 medical part of this which dr grossman
00:39:03.280 is a psychiatrist not a psychologist
00:39:05.080 you go with that route and then maybe
00:39:07.680 you go other routes but in the united
00:39:09.780 states even with the review by the
00:39:12.080 american academy of pediatrics it's
00:39:14.320 still pedal to the metal but both the
00:39:16.280 political class and the biopharma
00:39:18.840 medical industry that's correct the
00:39:23.240 aap has just announced that they're
00:39:24.780 going to do a review they haven't done
00:39:26.040 it yet and we need to keep a very
00:39:28.160 watchful eye because they are very
00:39:29.860 dug in if there have been years of
00:39:32.560 pressure activists have been asking
00:39:34.640 the aap to do a review like this to
00:39:36.680 no avail but this this could
00:39:38.220 potentially be a sea change but we're
00:39:39.760 going to have to watch very closely
00:39:41.180 because i think the audiologues are
00:39:42.740 not going to let go of their grip on
00:39:44.820 power of all the institutions the
00:39:47.100 mainstream groups like the aap the
00:39:49.380 endocrine society the pediatric
00:39:50.700 endocrine society they've all
00:39:52.440 endocrinologists that have been
00:39:53.540 pushing back have told me that the
00:39:55.420 world professional association for
00:39:56.940 transgender health w path has co-opted
00:39:58.900 a lot of these groups and they will
00:40:01.180 not go down without a fight i can tell
00:40:02.620 you that dr grossman's book outlines
00:40:05.300 the the fierce force that this group
00:40:09.640 has on the american medical system
00:40:11.560 children and teenagers who are very
00:40:14.200 vulnerable and mentally struggling are
00:40:15.620 sent down a conveyor belt to the gender
00:40:18.320 clinics these days a lot of this starts
00:40:20.280 in the schools but it's everywhere in
00:40:21.960 culture and even in states i recently
00:40:23.760 heard from a mom one state that has
00:40:25.720 implemented a ban on this kind of thing
00:40:27.320 for minors her daughter is still able
00:40:30.500 to acquire testosterone in the on the
00:40:33.100 black market so this is there's a lot of
00:40:35.520 work to be done yet before we see this
00:40:37.260 medical scandal face the reckoning that
00:40:38.900 it deserves
00:40:39.360 brandon hang on one second i think we
00:40:43.120 worked at the technical issues with
00:40:44.480 dr grossman this book is a game changer
00:40:47.840 one dr grossman came at this with no you
00:40:51.100 know dog in this fight she she this is
00:40:53.020 all through her practice she's an
00:40:54.940 incredibly respected uh psychiatrist uh
00:40:57.940 and not some you know right wing uh
00:41:00.320 right wing firebrand so dr grossman tell
00:41:03.100 me what the book is everybody i know
00:41:05.600 that's read it has loved it i've gotten
00:41:07.240 tremendous feedback on this book uh and
00:41:09.820 but i understand from tony lyons that
00:41:12.060 there's a suppression campaign going around
00:41:14.920 i guess at bookstores and maybe even
00:41:16.300 amazon yeah that's right uh steve sorry
00:41:19.980 for the delay there were some technical
00:41:21.780 problems over here thanks for having me
00:41:23.840 i'm very angry yeah i i'm very angry that
00:41:28.160 barnes and noble is basically censoring
00:41:31.040 my book okay i'm a child and adolescent
00:41:33.820 psychiatrist i've been helping families
00:41:36.160 for 40 years i sat down and i wrote this
00:41:40.540 book which is going to guide parents so
00:41:44.860 that they can prevent their children from
00:41:47.880 becoming dependent on pharmaceuticals for
00:41:50.660 the rest of their lives what do i mean by
00:41:53.100 that dependent on estrogen and
00:41:56.100 testosterone because you see once these
00:41:59.100 kids are placed on blockers and then cross
00:42:02.460 sex hormones it is for the rest of their
00:42:05.340 lives and they become a source of about
00:42:08.680 each kid i understand about a million
00:42:11.280 dollars for the pharmaceutical companies so
00:42:15.880 i've written a book laying out for parents
00:42:19.060 what they need to understand and what they
00:42:22.160 need to do
00:42:23.120 and uh barnes and noble has effectively
00:42:27.040 made it nearly impossible to get my book
00:42:30.460 on the other hand i went into my barnes and
00:42:33.520 noble the other day and after finding out that
00:42:36.420 i couldn't find my book there basically i did
00:42:39.720 find a whole pile of books for preschoolers
00:42:44.500 preschoolers steve telling them of course that
00:42:49.040 it's possible to be born in the wrong body
00:42:51.520 that you cannot tell if someone is a boy or a
00:42:54.720 girl without asking them and and and and all
00:42:58.100 the rest of it totally no scientific basis for
00:43:02.240 any of it and yet barnes and noble is refusing to
00:43:06.380 make my book available to parents a book that
00:43:10.100 has tools that parents need especially now school is
00:43:14.740 starting okay i want to speak directly to parents
00:43:17.600 now school is starting depending on whatever school
00:43:22.480 you're dealing with the principal the teacher the
00:43:25.220 guidance counselor depending on how activist they
00:43:28.680 are your child may be in danger what am i what
00:43:33.100 am i mean by in danger and i've seen this over and
00:43:36.600 over again in my office what that means is that kids are
00:43:40.560 led to believe that their bodies may be a mistake
00:43:44.000 they are led to believe that when they were born or before they
00:43:48.000 were born uh their parents were given the wrong
00:43:51.700 sex they are not really a boy they are not really a girl
00:43:55.820 and they are indoctrinated with these ideas from an early age
00:44:01.000 now i'm here to tell explain to parents
00:44:04.780 that these are aside from being false ideas and unscientific ideas
00:44:09.580 these are destabilizing ideas to a child emotionally
00:44:14.700 okay this is this is going to cause confusion
00:44:18.080 in your child but there is a lot that you can do
00:44:21.940 i provide in my book a roadmap for parents parents you need this
00:44:29.260 information i know everyone is so busy okay but just take
00:44:33.820 one hour one hour less than an hour read one chapter the chapter about
00:44:39.900 schools with all the information so that you
00:44:42.940 will understand what is going on in these schools
00:44:46.320 they are placing a wedge between you and your child
00:44:51.640 i'm giving you a heads up i want you to have these tools
00:44:56.500 i walk you through what you need to do no other book is doing that
00:45:01.640 and i have 40 years of experience helping families and i'm telling you that
00:45:07.140 we are in a medical calamity right now
00:45:10.640 we are in the midst of it in a few years when it's over
00:45:14.100 it'll be easy to look back and say how could we ever have done that
00:45:18.560 how could we have been teaching kids this stuff
00:45:21.440 now we're in the middle of it the trick is to realize it now
00:45:26.320 and to get the information and the tools that you need before school starts
00:45:31.380 you put the school on notice okay you parents have uh constitutional rights
00:45:38.540 to direct the upbringing and education of your children
00:45:42.460 you need to know your rights and you need i have in the book a form that can be downloaded
00:45:48.320 and you bring you sign that form you bring it to the school
00:45:52.600 and it lays out there exactly what you want and don't want for your child
00:45:58.620 dr grossman i tell you what how do people get can they get the book on amazon or where else can
00:46:05.060 they get it uh what we're going to try to do is get you back on the morning show tomorrow because
00:46:08.960 we're running out of time here we had a tough time getting you up the book as i said everybody
00:46:13.580 i've given it to is blown away by it uh can they go to amazon right now or can they go to skyhorse
00:46:18.960 in order if they can't get it i would say i would say go go to amazon but do it through my website
00:46:24.740 because amazon is filled with bogus books trying to trick people into buying bogus books
00:46:29.760 so do it through my website or my twitter my website miriam grossman md.com my twitter miriam
00:46:37.220 underscore grossman use that links so that you don't buy the wrong book people don't want this
00:46:44.240 book to get out there no and we're going to hopefully my producers will talk to you right
00:46:49.720 after this i want to get you on the morning show tomorrow to give this since people are going back
00:46:53.500 to school to give this warning to parents um dr grossman thank you real quickly uh you say uh
00:47:00.140 brandon you've been the lead the tip of the spear in this real quickly you're saying the members of
00:47:05.140 congress have to be held accountable in this fiasco what do you mean by that uh basically what i mean
00:47:11.600 by that is that mostly the democratic party which is digging their heels in at the moment but a few
00:47:15.720 craven republicans at the state level are going to have to face the music soon i very much believe it
00:47:19.720 this is one of the worst medical scandals the world has ever seen the july 27th congressional
00:47:24.040 hearings i think were a watershed moment chloe cole 19 years old on her birthday was testifying about
00:47:29.080 how she was drugged and disfigured as a minor uh and the democrats just refused to acknowledge the
00:47:34.060 truth and so uh there is a reckoning coming and uh as isaiah the prophet said in isaiah chapter 10
00:47:40.100 verse 3 what will you do on the day of reckoning when disaster comes from afar where will you go for
00:47:44.860 help to whom will you leave your riches uh those are very apt words today for all those who
00:47:49.660 are defending this barbarism this barbaric pseudoscience against children and all those
00:47:54.440 who have defended this are not going to be allowed to memory hole their support of this insanity because
00:48:00.060 we've got receipts uh brandon my producer also talked to you we definitely want you on the morning
00:48:06.640 show also tomorrow morning because we didn't have enough time to develop this this is this is central
00:48:10.760 to what is happening in our country right now into our culture brandon shorewater brandon where do
00:48:15.500 people go for your reporting over the christian post and what's your social media
00:48:18.980 my social media is at brandon m show on twitter of course all of our print reporting including my
00:48:25.640 latest column is at christian post.com and i would just say if you want to see some of these families
00:48:30.220 that have been torn apart like dr grossman was saying go to deadname documentary.com and you'll see
00:48:35.900 how families are being ripped to shreds by this ideology and this medicalization deadname documentary.com
00:48:41.740 small fee to watch it's a gut punch but we're going to have a reckoning because of how many
00:48:46.080 children young people and their families have been have been torn to shreds and that's not hyperbole
00:48:50.620 deadname documentary.com brandon you're a warrior and tip of the spear honored to have you on here
00:48:57.180 brother brandon show thank you steve see you okay i want we're going to leave you now with the
00:49:03.280 zydeco version of the battle of new orleans remember this is one of the most important
00:49:07.780 battles in the uh one of the most important battles in the history of our country it essentially
00:49:12.540 ended the revolution what i mean by that is the british didn't give up after they lost uh the
00:49:18.240 first time in the revolution they came back in the war of 1812 and andrew jackson general andrew
00:49:22.640 jackson was there to stop it the zydeco version it's got that louisiana flavor to it of uh zach's
00:49:29.020 bonton the great album from zach chandler okay uh or zach richards we're gonna take you out with the
00:49:35.880 battle of new orleans see you tomorrow morning 10 o'clock
00:49:38.640 so
00:49:50.440 holy grease said we could take them by surprise if we didn't fire a month before we look them in the eyes
00:50:13.140 held up until we see the bits as well then we opened up a squirrel gonna really give a well we
00:50:17.760 fire like guns and the british kept a coming in there wasn't that many as it was a while ago
00:50:22.140 fire once more and made them begin a running down the mississippi to the cover mexico they ran through
00:50:27.440 the fries and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
00:50:31.280 ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch them down the mississippi to the cover mexico
00:50:35.680 we fired our cannon so the barrel melted down then we grabbed an alligator and we fired another round
00:50:46.560 stuffed his head with cannibals and piled his behind and when we shot the powder off the gator lost his mind
00:50:54.060 we fired our cannon so the barrel melted down then we grabbed an alligator and we fired another round
00:50:58.440 stuffed his head with cannibals and piled his behind and when we shot the powder off the gator lost his mind
00:51:03.060 fired our guns and the british kept a coming in there wasn't that many as it was a while ago
00:51:07.440 fire once more and made them begin a run down the mississippi to the cover mexico
00:51:11.440 they ran through the fries and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
00:51:16.940 they ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch them down the mississippi to the cover mexico
00:51:21.440 they ran through the fries and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
00:51:44.540 they ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch them down the mississippi to the cover mexico
00:51:48.940 they ran through the fries and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the rebels and they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
00:51:53.940 they ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch them down the mississippi to the cover mexico
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