Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 356： Over 500,000 Casualties In Ukraine

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:19.280 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:22.220 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:25.700 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:28.060 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,

00:00:30.900 get total control and total power.

00:00:33.700 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:35.500 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:36.680 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:39.520 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:41.800 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:44.080 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:45.980 All this nonsense, all this spin,

00:00:47.800 they can't handle the truth.

00:00:49.860 War Room Battleground.

00:00:51.720 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:53.720 Okay, Friday, 18 August, year of February, 2023.

00:00:59.200 Ben Harnwell, I want to start with you.

00:01:01.400 We've got a lot to get through tonight.

00:01:03.360 On the eve of our Saturday show,

00:01:08.260 I want to, Ben,

00:01:09.560 Ben Harnwell doing a magical,

00:01:13.540 Benny, don't always have to wear,

00:01:15.020 you know, you don't always have to be so Natalie attired.

00:01:18.320 I understand that, you know,

00:01:19.800 they eat late in Italy.

00:01:21.600 You're probably going out for some very swanky dinner

00:01:24.880 and, you know, entertainment afterwards.

00:01:28.340 But you don't have to get,

00:01:28.960 we're just hearing the war,

00:01:29.700 but you don't have to get dressed up for us.

00:01:32.280 Ben, we've called this shot

00:01:34.100 from the beginning on Ukraine,

00:01:37.260 but it is, it's actually much worse,

00:01:41.160 I think, than you and I even realized.

00:01:42.980 The New York Times are today coming out.

00:01:44.380 And if Memphis can put that up

00:01:46.840 as the first headline,

00:01:49.000 500,000, half a million casualties,

00:01:53.160 civilian, military, Russian, and Ukrainian

00:01:55.880 in the first, what, year and a half of this war.

00:01:59.280 This is an absolute disgrace.

00:02:02.000 The blood is on the hands of the Biden regime,

00:02:04.960 Brussels, the party of Davos, NATO,

00:02:08.700 the city of London, all of it.

00:02:11.080 Walk me through this.

00:02:12.020 It's more catastrophic than I think you and I even,

00:02:15.540 I mean, we knew it was catastrophic.

00:02:16.960 I didn't believe it was this level,

00:02:18.260 but this is pretty shocking.

00:02:21.340 It is shocking, Steve.

00:02:23.300 And it also underlines a point,

00:02:25.460 two points that we've been saying constantly

00:02:27.740 in our analysis of this war.

00:02:30.280 The first is that no one is really aware

00:02:32.520 on either side what true level

00:02:34.380 of the injured, killed, maimed, mutilated are.

00:02:39.420 But that's a given.

00:02:41.520 It's very difficult to keep track of these things.

00:02:43.680 For example, we don't really know

00:02:45.540 how many people died of COVID.

00:02:47.060 We don't really know how many people

00:02:48.120 have died of the vaccines.

00:02:49.340 In both cases,

00:02:52.020 it is to do with the way

00:02:54.000 that these statistics are kept.

00:02:56.300 The second point I would make

00:02:57.940 is that these articles now

00:02:59.600 are appearing with increasing regularity

00:03:02.220 in the Western media.

00:03:03.640 And there is a reason for this,

00:03:04.980 and we've been pointing this out

00:03:06.160 really since before it took place,

00:03:08.440 whilst it was taken place

00:03:09.560 and after it took place,

00:03:10.420 and that is that the West

00:03:11.500 is pivoting away from Ukraine.

00:03:14.820 It's a slow pivot,

00:03:16.360 but there's definitely a pivot.

00:03:17.440 Now, the first article,

00:03:19.660 if I may, Steve,

00:03:20.520 I'd like to fall on,

00:03:22.320 is the foreign policy article,

00:03:23.740 article number one, please, Memphis,

00:03:25.880 with the headline,

00:03:27.120 Should the West Keep Arming Ukraine

00:03:30.000 or Push for Peace?

00:03:31.900 Then it has to stand first,

00:03:33.060 slightly beneath that.

00:03:34.180 A slow counter-offensive

00:03:35.460 hasn't led to major breakthroughs,

00:03:38.200 prompting calls for negotiation

00:03:40.400 rather than escalation.

00:03:42.360 Steve, you know, those words,

00:03:43.980 we have been using them

00:03:45.120 in one formulation or another.

00:03:46.860 For a year and a half now,

00:03:48.400 the mainstream media

00:03:49.320 is starting to pick up on this

00:03:52.020 and run with it themselves.

00:03:53.620 This is foreign policy.

00:03:54.800 So along with foreign policy,

00:03:56.400 along with foreign affairs,

00:03:57.320 these are the two big policy wonk magazines

00:04:01.080 for the foreign policy world.

00:04:03.600 And to read this kind of article

00:04:05.380 in that medium,

00:04:06.680 it's like listening in

00:04:07.820 to an internal debate,

00:04:09.780 which is really what

00:04:11.520 these two magazines exist for.

00:04:13.560 It's policy wonks

00:04:14.800 really talking to themselves.

00:04:16.380 If you want to see

00:04:18.020 what the wider propaganda is

00:04:20.460 on massaging public opinion,

00:04:22.780 you go to, for example,

00:04:23.680 like the Washington Post

00:04:24.780 or something like that.

00:04:26.980 It's a slightly less extent,

00:04:28.380 but still the same sort of thing,

00:04:30.360 the New York Times.

00:04:32.220 But these magazines are,

00:04:33.960 this is a policy intelligentsia

00:04:35.780 talking to itself.

00:04:38.120 And this is what they're floating.

00:04:39.140 I mean, as with always, Steve,

00:04:42.100 I will be linking to these,

00:04:43.900 to all the articles

00:04:44.680 I'm referring to on this segment,

00:04:48.200 which, and I give the socials

00:04:49.360 at the end of it,

00:04:50.300 just these are basically

00:04:51.340 two policy experts

00:04:53.380 just having an interview,

00:04:54.560 talking to themselves.

00:04:55.760 And paragraph after paragraph,

00:04:58.700 it's basically saying

00:05:00.200 that the counter-offensive

00:05:01.780 hasn't been going anywhere.

00:05:05.280 And I'll just read out this segment

00:05:06.540 just for the purpose

00:05:07.800 that it's just one out of many

00:05:09.600 I could have picked,

00:05:10.580 simply because it confirms

00:05:12.460 and affirms

00:05:13.660 what we have been saying

00:05:15.000 on the war.

00:05:15.580 I mean, that's important,

00:05:16.380 I think,

00:05:17.680 so people, you know,

00:05:18.640 have confidence.

00:05:20.920 Because when you do

00:05:22.240 tack an editorial line

00:05:24.460 at odds with the rest

00:05:26.220 of the media,

00:05:26.760 it's important to check in

00:05:28.320 to say, you know,

00:05:29.180 are we right on this?

00:05:30.280 Is this eccentricity?

00:05:30.800 Are we being quixotic?

00:05:33.660 Or is this actually

00:05:34.360 the reality

00:05:34.860 and just everyone else

00:05:36.020 is ignoring it?

00:05:37.780 And it is actually

00:05:38.920 obviously the second

00:05:40.640 of those cases.

00:05:42.960 So I'm just going to

00:05:45.780 cite one question

00:05:46.980 and then a little bit

00:05:47.760 of the answer,

00:05:48.180 just to give a flavour

00:05:49.120 of the whole article

00:05:49.840 and then I'm going to move

00:05:50.480 on to the next one.

00:05:51.500 First up,

00:05:52.160 do we agree on the fact

00:05:53.180 Ukraine has taken

00:05:54.740 relatively little territory,

00:05:57.060 has been forced

00:05:57.860 to commit its reserves

00:05:59.220 without any major breakthrough

00:06:00.800 and while I wouldn't

00:06:02.420 call the offensive failure,

00:06:04.060 it's not a stunning

00:06:05.020 success either.

00:06:06.780 And then the interviewee says,

00:06:08.280 we agree on those facts,

00:06:09.760 but I think part of the problem

00:06:10.920 was not Ukraine's performance,

00:06:12.580 but unrealistic expectations

00:06:15.100 in the West.

00:06:15.920 Well, you know,

00:06:16.360 a lot could be said

00:06:17.280 about those unrealistic expectations

00:06:19.240 and it's largely because

00:06:20.620 we've been,

00:06:21.620 we were subjected

00:06:22.200 from before the counteroffensive

00:06:23.680 when it was still

00:06:25.120 the spring offensive took place.

00:06:26.720 We were subject

00:06:27.940 from the West

00:06:28.400 to a massive propaganda

00:06:29.800 excite in the West

00:06:32.360 and that's probably

00:06:32.920 one of the reasons

00:06:33.540 why expectations

00:06:34.780 were different from reality.

00:06:37.000 But there is the confirmation

00:06:38.680 in that very important

00:06:40.300 policy magazine

00:06:42.100 of the general tone

00:06:44.720 and tenor

00:06:45.200 of what we've been reporting

00:06:46.340 on in the war in Memphis.

00:06:48.080 I'm going to move on

00:06:48.860 to the second article,

00:06:50.100 if I may.

00:06:50.800 This is article number two.

00:06:53.800 It's the Washington Post

00:06:54.980 and the headline is

00:06:56.880 US intelligence says

00:07:00.140 Ukraine will fail

00:07:01.620 to meet the offensive's

00:07:03.160 key goal.

00:07:04.440 Now, we like to refer

00:07:05.780 to the Washington Post

00:07:06.900 on the war room

00:07:08.760 as the CIA's

00:07:10.060 daily bulletin.

00:07:12.880 This is basically

00:07:13.500 what the CIA

00:07:15.220 wants us to believe

00:07:16.240 because this is part

00:07:18.660 of the pivot.

00:07:19.080 And in this instance,

00:07:21.180 I'm going to suggest

00:07:21.900 that it's not just

00:07:22.600 the CIA.

00:07:23.580 I think this is basically

00:07:24.180 the White House

00:07:25.100 trying to salvage

00:07:28.020 something of now

00:07:29.180 its shattered

00:07:31.060 political credibility

00:07:32.380 on the international stage

00:07:33.440 and it's trying

00:07:33.900 to put a distance

00:07:35.000 between itself

00:07:36.240 and the failures

00:07:38.100 to suggest

00:07:39.180 that somehow

00:07:39.840 it's not actually,

00:07:41.080 it's not all

00:07:41.960 the Biden administration's

00:07:43.360 fault, obviously.

00:07:44.200 But hang on here.

00:07:47.160 Hang on here.

00:07:49.980 This one in particular,

00:07:51.260 I want to go to my,

00:07:52.620 it's up on Getter,

00:07:53.900 but if we can somehow,

00:07:55.200 and maybe you're the guy

00:07:55.940 that do it,

00:07:56.380 get it past the paywall.

00:07:58.000 This is a very important piece.

00:08:00.320 When Ben says

00:08:03.060 that the Washington Post

00:08:04.300 is really the mouthpiece

00:08:05.640 for the CIA,

00:08:06.660 he's absolutely correct.

00:08:07.700 When they want

00:08:08.320 David Ignatius,

00:08:09.740 the columnist,

00:08:10.400 these guys are very tied in.

00:08:12.100 So deep relationships

00:08:13.920 with the CIA,

00:08:14.580 when the CIA

00:08:15.100 wants to put out something,

00:08:16.200 put a trial balloon up,

00:08:17.180 run something up the flagpole

00:08:18.480 to test something

00:08:20.020 or to get it in

00:08:21.580 and then later say,

00:08:22.820 well, that was already reported,

00:08:23.980 right?

00:08:24.880 That's not new news.

00:08:26.380 The Washington Post

00:08:27.440 is the platform they use

00:08:28.580 more than any other.

00:08:30.260 The reason this article,

00:08:31.760 and I want to focus

00:08:32.360 on this article,

00:08:33.020 there is a stunning,

00:08:35.140 breathtaking admission

00:08:36.840 buried in,

00:08:38.500 the buried lead

00:08:39.060 in this article,

00:08:39.660 and I put it up

00:08:40.320 kind of my headline

00:08:41.060 on Getter,

00:08:42.100 if people,

00:08:43.340 and everybody should

00:08:43.800 go to Getter.

00:08:44.340 It's a free app.

00:08:45.720 It's got,

00:08:46.280 we're breaking news

00:08:46.980 on there all the time.

00:08:47.960 We're putting up

00:08:48.620 our analysis

00:08:49.300 from all our different folks.

00:08:51.180 I'm up there,

00:08:51.860 you know,

00:08:53.060 all hours of the night

00:08:53.900 putting stuff up.

00:08:55.480 In this Washington Post piece,

00:08:58.160 they actually talk about

00:08:59.960 the,

00:09:01.640 as we told you,

00:09:02.700 this is a combined arms operation

00:09:05.180 that we train these folks for.

00:09:07.100 And, you know,

00:09:07.760 you've just heard,

00:09:08.440 and you're going to get to

00:09:09.020 in a second,

00:09:09.480 we've just,

00:09:09.860 you know,

00:09:10.600 forced a couple

00:09:11.820 of our allies

00:09:12.300 and NATOs

00:09:12.840 to provide them

00:09:13.580 with F-16 fighter jets.

00:09:16.580 In the combined arms training,

00:09:18.640 you know,

00:09:18.880 this is artillery,

00:09:20.200 armor,

00:09:22.580 infantry,

00:09:23.500 mounted infantry,

00:09:24.640 close air support,

00:09:25.440 all of it,

00:09:26.060 highly complicated.

00:09:27.680 Really,

00:09:28.220 only the Americans

00:09:29.380 can really fight like this,

00:09:30.540 maneuver warfare.

00:09:31.200 and the Russians

00:09:33.040 are experts.

00:09:34.800 Since the last big guys

00:09:36.080 they took on

00:09:36.560 were the Wehrmacht,

00:09:37.520 which were the absolute

00:09:39.220 best army in history

00:09:40.640 in combined arms operation.

00:09:43.040 They took them on

00:09:43.900 and fought them

00:09:44.280 to a standstill

00:09:44.920 and then rolled them back

00:09:45.660 and crushed them.

00:09:47.080 In this article,

00:09:49.260 they actually talk about

00:09:50.780 what the Americans,

00:09:52.920 the American senior military commanders

00:09:55.220 in talking to the Ukrainians

00:09:57.000 and training them

00:09:57.660 and getting them ready for it.

00:09:58.680 They said,

00:09:59.660 you're going to actually take

00:10:01.420 massive casualties,

00:10:03.820 heavy casualties

00:10:04.580 at the initial start

00:10:06.740 of this spring offensive

00:10:07.780 as you start to go in

00:10:11.380 and punch through their lines.

00:10:13.440 And once you do that,

00:10:15.120 you've just got to hunker down

00:10:16.940 and continue to pierce the lines

00:10:18.520 and you're going to take

00:10:19.160 more casualties.

00:10:20.160 But if you stick with our plan

00:10:21.960 of combined arms,

00:10:23.340 you will eventually pierce

00:10:24.920 their outer defenses

00:10:26.420 and then,

00:10:27.660 and specifically,

00:10:28.300 they're talking about

00:10:29.020 the land bridge.

00:10:30.340 One of the things

00:10:30.720 they're talking about

00:10:31.100 is the land bridge

00:10:31.880 that connects that,

00:10:33.020 that this war gave the Russians,

00:10:36.100 the land bridge

00:10:36.620 that connects Crimea

00:10:37.560 to eastern Ukraine.

00:10:39.760 That's the,

00:10:40.380 that's where,

00:10:40.900 you know,

00:10:41.620 the center of gravity

00:10:42.520 is a town there

00:10:43.540 and you're just going to

00:10:44.140 hit down

00:10:45.200 and you're going to take

00:10:46.060 massive casualties first,

00:10:46.980 but just do the old America

00:10:48.040 and just stick down

00:10:48.820 and just punch through it.

00:10:50.420 Much of what we did

00:10:51.220 in Normandy.

00:10:54.040 Ukrainians started

00:10:54.640 taking these casualties

00:10:55.500 and remember,

00:10:57.120 unlike the U.S. Army

00:10:58.880 in Normandy,

00:10:59.480 which was not particularly

00:11:00.700 well trained to do this

00:11:01.960 and that was one of the reasons

00:11:02.800 we took such heavy casualties

00:11:04.000 and had such a tough time

00:11:05.100 pushing the Wehrbach back,

00:11:06.760 although we had total

00:11:07.520 and complete air,

00:11:08.280 air superiority,

00:11:09.760 is that our guys

00:11:11.440 weren't even that trained.

00:11:12.700 Back in the 1940s,

00:11:13.840 they spent so much time,

00:11:14.720 as I've said before,

00:11:15.560 training to actually

00:11:16.400 take the beachhead

00:11:18.200 and get off the beach.

00:11:21.700 Here,

00:11:22.380 the casualties,

00:11:23.100 after a couple of weeks

00:11:24.720 and massive casualties,

00:11:26.040 and now you know

00:11:26.400 from the 500,000

00:11:27.340 what we're talking about,

00:11:28.620 the senior military commander

00:11:29.780 said,

00:11:30.040 we can't do this anymore.

00:11:31.500 We're not going to do this.

00:11:32.820 We can't.

00:11:33.220 This is not working.

00:11:34.160 We're getting slaughtered.

00:11:35.120 We're losing so many

00:11:35.920 good young men.

00:11:36.620 We're losing our best guys.

00:11:38.240 We can't do it.

00:11:39.180 We're going to go back

00:11:40.200 to the old Ukrainian

00:11:41.500 way of fighting,

00:11:42.480 which is little units

00:11:43.320 going out

00:11:43.860 and testing the enemy

00:11:46.660 like reconnaissance

00:11:47.580 and force,

00:11:48.140 testing the enemy,

00:11:49.040 and then we're going

00:11:49.620 to try to go

00:11:50.120 and nibble at it that way,

00:11:51.460 which is not obviously

00:11:53.840 what the Americans

00:11:54.500 had in mind.

00:11:55.960 But this is Mershon.

00:11:56.800 Mershon told them

00:11:57.520 they're going to fight

00:11:58.360 to the last

00:12:00.180 Ukrainian is dead.

00:12:02.240 And here, Ben,

00:12:03.020 that's what's so shocking

00:12:03.920 about this article.

00:12:04.960 This is finally admitting

00:12:06.580 and finally the apparatus

00:12:08.660 in the war machine

00:12:09.580 telling the world

00:12:10.860 what they told the Ukrainians

00:12:12.080 and they're blaming

00:12:12.660 the Ukrainians.

00:12:13.760 Well, if the Ukrainians

00:12:14.480 had just listened to us,

00:12:15.380 we told them

00:12:15.940 they were going to take

00:12:16.540 massive casualties.

00:12:18.420 They just had to stick

00:12:19.280 with the program

00:12:20.040 and finally this had

00:12:21.400 to keep punching,

00:12:22.220 keep punching,

00:12:22.900 keep punching.

00:12:23.800 You're going to take

00:12:24.200 more casualties,

00:12:24.860 but eventually you're

00:12:25.520 going to pierce it

00:12:26.160 and that's how you're

00:12:27.300 going to cut the land

00:12:27.920 bridge off

00:12:28.440 and the Russians

00:12:29.300 will collapse

00:12:30.040 thereupon.

00:12:33.380 The Ukrainian field

00:12:34.880 command,

00:12:35.200 this is what we said,

00:12:35.780 there's been a,

00:12:36.600 and I've heard this

00:12:37.320 from many people

00:12:38.280 in quite deep

00:12:40.420 into the Pentagon

00:12:41.040 and other places,

00:12:41.780 that have said

00:12:42.720 there's essentially

00:12:43.420 been essentially

00:12:44.780 a mutiny in the field

00:12:46.060 with a lot of field

00:12:46.780 commanders that said,

00:12:47.500 hey, look,

00:12:47.900 screw the Americans,

00:12:49.160 right?

00:12:49.500 They don't have to sit here.

00:12:50.820 We're not that well

00:12:51.600 trained for this.

00:12:52.500 The equipment's kind of

00:12:53.240 all over the place.

00:12:54.620 We don't really know

00:12:55.340 what we're doing.

00:12:55.880 We're getting slaughtered.

00:12:57.240 The Russians are dug in

00:12:58.460 and we're not piercing

00:12:59.420 these different entrenchments

00:13:01.720 or level layers of,

00:13:03.380 you know,

00:13:03.880 the Russians are now

00:13:05.040 deployed in defense

00:13:07.320 in depth,

00:13:08.480 right?

00:13:08.760 Not just with tank traps

00:13:10.040 and mine.

00:13:11.540 And this is the other thing.

00:13:12.660 We know every square,

00:13:14.520 tiny centimeter of Ukraine

00:13:16.700 because of the satellites.

00:13:18.540 You're telling me

00:13:19.400 that we didn't see

00:13:20.180 the landmines going in

00:13:21.340 and this took months to do.

00:13:23.760 The Russians just didn't

00:13:24.660 all of a sudden,

00:13:25.400 you know,

00:13:26.680 magic wand

00:13:27.280 and we got,

00:13:28.000 you know,

00:13:28.580 all these landmines

00:13:29.620 and we have the tank traps

00:13:30.740 and we have defense in depth

00:13:31.940 where the Ukraine's

00:13:33.780 not briefed on this.

00:13:34.720 Do they not know

00:13:35.560 the level of defense of,

00:13:38.600 and I think the Russians

00:13:39.340 have proved pretty well

00:13:40.660 that they know

00:13:41.700 how to hunker down

00:13:42.620 and they don't mind

00:13:43.560 having a couple

00:13:45.380 of three folks

00:13:46.160 die in defense of that?

00:13:48.620 This is a calamity.

00:13:50.480 This is a calamity

00:13:51.240 of historical scale.

00:13:52.960 Never before

00:13:53.860 in human history

00:13:54.920 have a people

00:13:56.640 been as misused

00:13:57.660 and lied to

00:13:58.500 as the Ukrainian people

00:13:59.740 and we said on this show

00:14:00.640 a year and a half ago

00:14:01.500 and we told you

00:14:02.580 the crime here

00:14:03.860 is the innocent dead

00:14:05.960 of the young men

00:14:07.180 and women

00:14:07.560 in the Ukrainian military

00:14:08.640 and the civilians,

00:14:09.880 Ben Harnwell.

00:14:11.800 Steve,

00:14:12.300 it's funny

00:14:12.580 that both of us

00:14:13.580 reading this article

00:14:14.760 independently

00:14:15.380 of one of the

00:14:16.200 flagged up

00:14:16.980 the same paragraph

00:14:17.960 and thought

00:14:19.040 almost the same thing.

00:14:20.680 Your analogy

00:14:22.880 was to think

00:14:23.700 of the Second World War.

00:14:24.960 I was actually thinking

00:14:26.060 of the First World War

00:14:27.080 with the old,

00:14:29.300 what one military historian

00:14:30.960 called it,

00:14:31.520 the lines led

00:14:32.380 by donkeys

00:14:33.260 which is basically

00:14:34.300 guys in London

00:14:36.020 were just sending

00:14:36.700 thousands a day,

00:14:38.680 tens of thousands

00:14:39.400 of young lads

00:14:40.660 in the trenches

00:14:43.220 and they were getting

00:14:45.400 mowed down

00:14:46.140 because all you need

00:14:47.460 is basically

00:14:47.960 two Germans

00:14:48.680 on top of a hill

00:14:49.360 with an old

00:14:49.740 gatling gun,

00:14:50.860 the old tree runner

00:14:51.820 for the machine gun

00:14:52.640 and they would just

00:14:53.760 mow them down

00:14:54.860 because the generals

00:14:56.420 were still fighting

00:14:57.420 sort of war

00:14:59.620 with a Victorian

00:15:00.920 officer class mentality

00:15:03.480 and the technology

00:15:04.700 had changed

00:15:05.540 but London

00:15:06.580 was sort of,

00:15:07.540 it wasn't really aware

00:15:09.080 of it.

00:15:10.580 Hang on,

00:15:12.040 hang on.

00:15:13.740 It's a great analogy.

00:15:15.020 Let me tell you

00:15:15.380 the one glaring difference

00:15:16.780 which will get

00:15:17.340 to my point here.

00:15:18.800 In London

00:15:19.300 you had the

00:15:19.920 foreign secretary

00:15:21.340 and the war department

00:15:22.240 and all that

00:15:22.780 and of course

00:15:23.460 Churchill and Glippi

00:15:24.520 you had all this

00:15:25.040 but the field commanders

00:15:26.640 what General French

00:15:28.520 and those guys

00:15:28.880 the field commanders

00:15:29.820 didn't say no.

00:15:33.820 They kept hitting

00:15:34.780 and they kept hitting

00:15:35.660 that's the donkeys

00:15:36.540 the real donkeys

00:15:37.280 were the British

00:15:37.880 senior military leadership

00:15:39.460 that had these notions

00:15:40.720 of return.

00:15:41.500 They didn't go back

00:15:42.220 to the government

00:15:43.480 and say we can't

00:15:44.060 keep doing this.

00:15:45.120 This is what has destroyed

00:15:46.260 the United Kingdom

00:15:46.880 you talk about

00:15:47.300 the prime reserve currency

00:15:48.280 World War I

00:15:49.520 so gutted the spirit

00:15:50.940 and took out

00:15:52.100 so many of the best

00:15:52.860 and the brightest

00:15:53.340 England's never recovered.

00:15:55.220 That's in World War II

00:15:56.520 it took us

00:15:57.680 four years

00:15:58.620 to even get to Normandy

00:15:59.540 because the British

00:16:00.260 said we can't

00:16:00.880 take those kind

00:16:01.380 of casualties

00:16:01.820 we took at the Somme

00:16:02.600 we took in World War I.

00:16:03.700 Hear the difference

00:16:04.520 and hear the potential

00:16:06.200 hero of this story

00:16:07.180 I think

00:16:08.700 are going to be

00:16:09.220 different than

00:16:10.520 the field commanders

00:16:12.140 of the Ukrainian army

00:16:14.320 because they're sitting there

00:16:16.140 and that's what

00:16:16.500 the story says

00:16:17.140 they're looking at

00:16:17.700 Zelensky and all these guys

00:16:19.400 back partying in Odessa

00:16:20.600 and partying in Kiev

00:16:21.460 all the nice nightclubs

00:16:22.540 and they're taking

00:16:23.760 these young kids

00:16:24.440 into this terminal house

00:16:25.400 that's where you're

00:16:26.240 hearing about these mutinies

00:16:27.220 you're hearing about

00:16:27.700 the entire units

00:16:28.900 that will not

00:16:30.040 continue to fight

00:16:30.920 or they will not

00:16:31.860 continue to fight

00:16:32.580 along the American plan

00:16:33.760 because they're saying

00:16:34.440 we're not trained for this

00:16:35.420 one we don't really

00:16:36.660 have the equipment

00:16:37.160 number two

00:16:37.640 this is so complicated

00:16:38.780 it's not what we do

00:16:39.440 we can go back

00:16:40.440 to the small unit things

00:16:41.440 we do in probing

00:16:42.300 and kind of

00:16:43.300 Ukrainian

00:16:43.940 Ukraine war 101

00:16:45.540 which is what they know

00:16:46.960 in their DNA

00:16:48.060 that's how they fight

00:16:48.960 the field commanders

00:16:50.400 here during the World War I

00:16:51.540 is the commander

00:16:52.160 sitting there going

00:16:52.780 I don't care

00:16:53.940 what the Pentagon's

00:16:54.740 telling us

00:16:55.180 I don't care

00:16:56.440 what Joe Biden

00:16:57.720 what Jake Sullivan says

00:16:58.920 I particularly don't care

00:17:00.640 about what

00:17:01.100 Victoria Nuland says

00:17:02.880 these people

00:17:04.120 have led us

00:17:04.700 to our destruction

00:17:05.460 and remember

00:17:06.900 as soon as that

00:17:08.300 Ukrainian army

00:17:09.160 collapses

00:17:09.760 you wait

00:17:11.560 till you see

00:17:11.900 the Russians

00:17:12.340 you think the Russians

00:17:13.040 are in Russian

00:17:14.020 speaking eastern Ukraine

00:17:15.160 today in the Donbass

00:17:16.100 and Crimea

00:17:16.520 when that Ukrainian

00:17:18.220 army

00:17:18.780 collapses

00:17:20.120 like the Russian army

00:17:21.020 collapse in World War I

00:17:22.020 the Russians

00:17:22.880 are going to be

00:17:23.440 on an open

00:17:24.200 on an open

00:17:25.040 sprint

00:17:25.680 to Kiev

00:17:26.680 and I got to tell you

00:17:27.700 you're going to have

00:17:29.000 massive pressure

00:17:30.020 of NATO

00:17:30.400 you have massive

00:17:31.060 pressure

00:17:31.480 of Joe Biden

00:17:33.240 for a military

00:17:34.160 intervention

00:17:34.920 with young

00:17:35.680 men and women

00:17:36.600 from the United

00:17:37.640 States of America

00:17:38.560 it is plain as day

00:17:40.300 the Ukrainian army

00:17:41.760 is beaten

00:17:42.540 okay

00:17:43.440 it is beaten

00:17:44.120 it's not me saying that

00:17:45.360 it's the Ukrainian

00:17:46.460 field commanders

00:17:47.200 if you don't believe it

00:17:48.100 read it

00:17:48.400 don't go to Breitbart

00:17:49.300 don't go to Gateway Pundit

00:17:50.940 don't go to Citizen Free Press

00:17:52.680 go to the CIA

00:17:54.180 sponsored Washington Post

00:17:55.700 where they're telling you

00:17:57.200 we told these guys

00:17:58.920 you're going to take

00:17:59.920 these massive casualties

00:18:00.900 but you got to suck it up

00:18:01.860 and go

00:18:02.320 and they're saying

00:18:03.240 we can't do that anymore

00:18:04.120 particularly since

00:18:04.800 they're not trained to do it

00:18:05.800 there is no piercing through

00:18:07.620 Ben Harnwell

00:18:08.800 Steve

00:18:10.240 I agree with every word

00:18:11.640 but I want to add one thing

00:18:12.940 because I

00:18:13.240 you've put that one difference

00:18:14.800 between now

00:18:15.460 and the First World War

00:18:17.040 I'm going to pick

00:18:17.760 out a difference

00:18:19.300 and it really

00:18:21.060 puts every previous war

00:18:23.300 in one category

00:18:24.180 and what we're seeing now

00:18:25.600 in a new category

00:18:26.520 a separate category

00:18:27.300 and what is that difference

00:18:29.300 why can't they do a rerun

00:18:31.020 of basically

00:18:31.640 just

00:18:32.640 the cannon fodder

00:18:33.880 mentality

00:18:34.480 well we'll lose

00:18:35.220 10,000 today

00:18:36.280 they'll lose

00:18:37.160 sort of 11,000

00:18:38.060 so we might gain

00:18:38.720 100 yards

00:18:39.380 and that's fine

00:18:40.000 why can't they do that

00:18:41.040 anymore

00:18:41.340 because

00:18:42.020 and thank God for this

00:18:43.600 the invention of social media

00:18:45.400 and social media platforms

00:18:46.760 so basically

00:18:47.500 everybody

00:18:48.260 you know

00:18:49.000 you can

00:18:49.500 people there

00:18:50.860 people in London

00:18:52.480 people in Kiev

00:18:53.620 people in Donetsk

00:18:55.580 people in the United States

00:18:56.460 everyone around the world

00:18:57.960 will see the same images

00:18:59.600 instantly

00:19:00.600 that's why you can't

00:19:01.860 really get away

00:19:02.940 with

00:19:03.260 with

00:19:04.140 with forcing

00:19:04.980 these kids

00:19:05.900 into

00:19:06.420 into a charnel house

00:19:08.100 because

00:19:09.200 there will be

00:19:10.260 there will

00:19:10.600 you know

00:19:10.920 there are being mutinies

00:19:11.940 we covered this last week

00:19:13.200 but there will be a revolution

00:19:14.300 there would be a revolution

00:19:15.340 which is why

00:19:16.140 you know

00:19:17.020 he knows the leaders

00:19:17.720 he knows the leaders

00:19:18.660 you know the leaders of revolution

00:19:20.180 you know the people

00:19:20.660 know this best

00:19:21.380 you know the people

00:19:22.440 know this best

00:19:23.100 besides the war on posse

00:19:25.360 you know everyone knows the best

00:19:26.380 the parents

00:19:27.780 of the kids

00:19:29.680 being sent to the charnel house

00:19:31.860 all the bribes

00:19:33.420 he fired

00:19:34.120 all the recruiters

00:19:35.080 why he fired the recruiters

00:19:35.960 they're taking money

00:19:36.660 they took 5 million dollars

00:19:38.260 in Odessa alone

00:19:39.220 5 million dollars

00:19:40.920 from the parents

00:19:41.700 from yes

00:19:42.380 young men

00:19:42.840 that could pay

00:19:43.380 but from the parents

00:19:44.240 of the kids

00:19:44.680 said no

00:19:45.160 do not send my child

00:19:46.780 I consider myself

00:19:48.440 a Ukrainian patriot

00:19:49.200 I don't see my child

00:19:50.420 die for nothing

00:19:51.440 right

00:19:52.300 on this

00:19:53.140 misconstrued

00:19:54.840 Jake Sullivan

00:19:56.180 Victoria Newland

00:19:57.360 Joe Biden

00:19:58.200 how would you like

00:19:58.940 to have those guys

00:19:59.920 setting up

00:20:00.500 the national security

00:20:01.760 policy for your country

00:20:02.820 oh

00:20:03.180 they are setting up

00:20:04.380 the national security

00:20:05.080 policy for our country

00:20:06.020 this

00:20:06.840 gets to the railhead

00:20:08.340 of the illegitimate regime

00:20:10.020 you think it's not

00:20:10.960 having an impact

00:20:11.800 it's having an impact

00:20:13.160 globally

00:20:14.020 Ben

00:20:14.920 other thoughts

00:20:16.040 about it

00:20:16.440 Zelensky

00:20:17.140 better

00:20:18.940 understand this

00:20:20.820 his problem

00:20:22.400 is going to come

00:20:22.880 from two

00:20:23.300 number one

00:20:23.800 he's already

00:20:24.120 worn his welcome

00:20:24.720 out in the west

00:20:25.340 they're starting

00:20:27.180 to get jiggy

00:20:27.740 on this guy

00:20:28.200 in Washington

00:20:28.660 you can tell

00:20:29.400 watch you see

00:20:30.180 these articles

00:20:30.640 coming out

00:20:31.160 already coming out

00:20:32.300 but his field

00:20:34.340 commanders

00:20:34.840 are

00:20:35.940 once they've had

00:20:37.160 a belly full

00:20:37.680 full of this

00:20:38.380 they're going to say

00:20:38.840 hey

00:20:39.080 we can cut

00:20:40.360 a deal

00:20:40.580 with the Russians

00:20:41.080 or there's

00:20:41.520 a better way

00:20:42.020 but we just

00:20:42.460 can't keep

00:20:42.840 pounding on this

00:20:43.640 that's when

00:20:44.720 he's going

00:20:45.020 to have

00:20:45.460 Zelensky's

00:20:46.520 the half

00:20:47.000 life

00:20:47.300 of Zelensky's

00:20:48.360 regime

00:20:49.220 I think

00:20:50.620 is

00:20:51.100 I'm going

00:20:52.240 to go out

00:20:52.540 there on a limb

00:20:52.960 now

00:20:53.200 around Thanksgiving

00:20:55.140 no later than

00:20:56.100 Thanksgiving or

00:20:56.700 December

00:20:57.040 or unless

00:20:57.800 there's a

00:20:58.440 massive

00:20:58.820 intervention

00:20:59.340 from the

00:21:00.300 America

00:21:00.580 and we know

00:21:01.280 that that's

00:21:01.760 not going

00:21:02.060 to happen

00:21:02.480 because the

00:21:03.520 House Freedom

00:21:04.000 Caucus

00:21:04.320 in the House

00:21:04.740 is going

00:21:05.060 to stop

00:21:05.540 that

00:21:05.820 including

00:21:06.540 Andy Harris

00:21:07.280 today

00:21:07.580 I don't know

00:21:07.920 if you got

00:21:08.240 that one

00:21:08.620 Ben

00:21:08.800 but the

00:21:09.160 the biggest

00:21:09.880 House Freedom

00:21:10.840 Caucus

00:21:11.200 guy who

00:21:11.600 was the

00:21:11.940 co-chair

00:21:12.800 Harris is a

00:21:14.180 good guy

00:21:14.480 for Maryland

00:21:14.940 he's the

00:21:15.680 co-chair

00:21:16.340 of the

00:21:17.300 Ukraine

00:21:17.780 committee

00:21:19.000 he's actually

00:21:20.320 saying now

00:21:20.860 no

00:21:21.260 he's gone

00:21:22.420 from co-chair

00:21:23.120 of the

00:21:23.320 Ukraine

00:21:23.620 committee

00:21:23.980 to

00:21:24.320 not another

00:21:25.500 penny

00:21:25.880 this guy

00:21:27.340 goes from

00:21:27.740 the biggest

00:21:28.100 cheerleader

00:21:28.520 with the

00:21:28.880 pom-poms

00:21:29.420 out there

00:21:29.880 right

00:21:30.220 up on Fox

00:21:31.340 all the

00:21:31.620 time

00:21:31.840 and he's

00:21:32.120 a good

00:21:32.360 guy

00:21:32.700 but he

00:21:33.420 goes from

00:21:33.780 that to

00:21:34.320 hey

00:21:34.820 over my

00:21:35.840 dead body

00:21:36.380 not another

00:21:36.920 penny

00:21:37.240 this is how

00:21:38.460 quickly it's

00:21:39.080 swinging

00:21:39.380 and it's

00:21:39.820 led by the

00:21:40.320 cadre of the

00:21:40.800 war and

00:21:41.040 posse

00:21:41.340 Ben

00:21:41.580 Harnwell

00:21:41.940 yeah

00:21:43.320 his precise

00:21:44.000 words were

00:21:45.780 if there is

00:21:46.360 a humanitarian

00:21:47.000 if there is

00:21:48.000 humanitarian

00:21:48.560 monies

00:21:49.100 non-military

00:21:50.140 monies

00:21:50.680 or military

00:21:51.440 monies

00:21:51.860 without an

00:21:52.760 inspector general

00:21:53.680 I'm not

00:21:54.300 supporting it

00:21:55.240 and he goes

00:21:55.900 on to say

00:21:56.440 I'm sorry

00:21:57.120 we don't have

00:21:57.900 that kind

00:21:58.680 of money

00:21:59.160 actually I

00:22:00.040 just I

00:22:00.360 just

00:22:00.520 now his

00:22:01.480 story is

00:22:02.060 unique

00:22:02.840 because you're

00:22:03.460 going to say

00:22:03.700 to yourself

00:22:04.200 why is

00:22:04.700 someone in

00:22:05.080 the Freedom

00:22:05.460 Caucus

00:22:05.980 supporting

00:22:06.820 being all

00:22:07.560 in and he

00:22:08.380 has been

00:22:08.700 all in on

00:22:09.480 Ukraine right

00:22:09.980 from the

00:22:10.240 beginning

00:22:10.480 his mother

00:22:11.120 was Ukrainian

00:22:12.520 she fled

00:22:13.120 I think in

00:22:13.920 the 50s

00:22:15.080 so he has

00:22:15.580 that emotional

00:22:16.140 connection

00:22:16.840 but now

00:22:17.520 the realities

00:22:18.340 of the

00:22:18.700 situation

00:22:19.240 are kicking

00:22:20.180 in and this

00:22:21.420 is what he

00:22:21.760 says right

00:22:22.320 and I think

00:22:22.700 we're going to

00:22:22.960 see more

00:22:23.280 of this

00:22:23.580 Steve

00:22:23.980 as the

00:22:24.800 70

00:22:25.600 GOP

00:22:27.560 members

00:22:28.160 who

00:22:29.140 originally

00:22:29.640 voted

00:22:30.100 against

00:22:30.700 sending

00:22:31.220 more

00:22:31.500 Ukraine

00:22:32.060 more money

00:22:33.380 to Ukraine

00:22:33.980 back in the

00:22:34.500 beginning

00:22:34.760 of the year

00:22:35.260 we're going

00:22:35.620 to see

00:22:35.880 that number

00:22:36.240 of 70

00:22:36.680 start rising

00:22:37.360 I mean

00:22:37.580 it's already

00:22:37.900 71 now

00:22:38.840 but between

00:22:39.420 now and

00:22:40.140 when this

00:22:40.540 vote comes

00:22:41.320 to the

00:22:41.540 floor of the

00:22:41.940 house

00:22:42.220 for the

00:22:43.040 extra 24

00:22:43.780 billion

00:22:44.760 and that

00:22:45.740 number is

00:22:46.160 only going

00:22:46.820 to go up

00:22:47.280 which is

00:22:47.900 very encouraging

00:22:48.600 because that's

00:22:49.240 what's going

00:22:49.500 to bring an

00:22:49.900 end to this

00:22:50.440 war

00:22:50.620 his final

00:22:51.340 quote is

00:22:52.060 I think

00:22:52.480 the time

00:22:52.860 has come

00:22:53.400 to realistically

00:22:54.420 call for

00:22:55.020 peace talks

00:22:55.640 I know

00:22:56.440 President

00:22:56.880 Zelensky

00:22:57.360 doesn't want

00:22:58.020 it

00:22:58.240 but President

00:22:59.180 Zelensky

00:22:59.760 without our

00:23:00.600 help

00:23:00.960 he would

00:23:01.700 abjectly

00:23:02.720 lose the

00:23:03.520 war

00:23:03.780 and with

00:23:04.400 our help

00:23:04.900 he's not

00:23:05.460 winning

00:23:05.800 it's a

00:23:06.340 stalemate

00:23:06.780 now

00:23:07.040 so that is

00:23:09.220 exactly

00:23:09.640 I think

00:23:10.200 Steve

00:23:10.460 what you

00:23:10.900 were just

00:23:11.180 saying

00:23:11.460 and it's

00:23:12.000 very good

00:23:12.320 news

00:23:12.560 indeed

00:23:12.920 remember

00:23:15.600 the reason

00:23:16.160 Harris

00:23:16.520 and these

00:23:16.760 people are

00:23:17.160 coming forward

00:23:17.700 this whole

00:23:18.300 thing started

00:23:18.940 remember a

00:23:19.480 couple of

00:23:19.820 weeks ago

00:23:20.380 right when

00:23:21.360 the House

00:23:21.740 left

00:23:22.180 and of

00:23:22.900 course

00:23:23.080 a bunch

00:23:23.500 of

00:23:23.620 Democratic

00:23:24.020 congressmen

00:23:24.560 who are

00:23:24.860 the most

00:23:25.720 these

00:23:26.260 progressives

00:23:26.780 are the

00:23:27.040 big

00:23:27.220 supporters

00:23:27.700 because

00:23:28.340 they hate

00:23:28.780 Putin

00:23:29.100 and quite

00:23:29.500 frankly

00:23:29.820 they hate

00:23:30.180 the more

00:23:30.480 traditional

00:23:30.900 society

00:23:31.480 in Russia

00:23:31.960 they went

00:23:33.520 over there

00:23:33.920 right away

00:23:34.340 they went

00:23:34.680 there for

00:23:34.980 CODELS

00:23:35.460 these congressional

00:23:36.220 delegations

00:23:37.140 which are

00:23:37.840 normally

00:23:38.120 boondoggles

00:23:38.780 but they

00:23:39.080 went over

00:23:39.360 to actually

00:23:39.700 get information

00:23:40.240 because they

00:23:40.620 had to be

00:23:41.000 able to

00:23:41.280 fight

00:23:41.620 hard

00:23:42.300 for all

00:23:42.980 these

00:23:43.160 different

00:23:43.460 supplementals

00:23:44.300 and they

00:23:44.540 knew the

00:23:44.800 Republicans

00:23:45.300 led by

00:23:46.160 the war

00:23:46.380 impossible

00:23:46.700 take a

00:23:47.100 hard line

00:23:47.520 they're the

00:23:48.280 ones

00:23:51.360 the briefings

00:23:52.540 they got

00:23:52.960 were like

00:23:53.420 a reality

00:23:54.100 check

00:23:54.580 because they

00:23:55.460 were asking

00:23:55.840 hard questions

00:23:56.500 since they

00:23:57.220 were going

00:23:57.660 all in

00:23:58.100 on this

00:23:58.420 they're the

00:23:59.060 ones that

00:23:59.380 first went

00:23:59.820 to CNN

00:24:00.780 and started

00:24:01.200 leaking

00:24:01.520 and then

00:24:01.980 CNN came

00:24:02.580 up with

00:24:02.820 the poll

00:24:03.100 55-45

00:24:04.060 that was

00:24:05.060 back then

00:24:05.680 55-45

00:24:06.960 when people

00:24:07.740 still thought

00:24:08.260 the spring

00:24:08.660 offensive

00:24:09.060 and everything

00:24:09.480 they've been

00:24:09.900 lied to

00:24:10.420 was going

00:24:11.200 to be

00:24:11.360 effective

00:24:11.740 it was

00:24:12.740 congressional

00:24:13.940 Democrats

00:24:14.780 that originally

00:24:16.140 came and

00:24:16.780 were truth

00:24:17.160 tellers

00:24:17.660 to leaking

00:24:18.520 to the

00:24:18.840 media

00:24:19.060 saying hey

00:24:19.640 we're seeing

00:24:20.200 these classified

00:24:20.760 briefings

00:24:21.240 over here

00:24:21.640 and this

00:24:23.640 thing's not

00:24:24.020 going so

00:24:24.460 well

00:24:24.720 it's not

00:24:25.420 going as

00:24:25.820 well as

00:24:26.040 we thought

00:24:26.360 it was

00:24:26.660 or not

00:24:26.940 as well

00:24:27.600 as we

00:24:27.840 promoted

00:24:28.240 on

00:24:28.540 and you're

00:24:29.160 going to

00:24:29.220 see a lot

00:24:29.540 of finger

00:24:29.880 pointing

00:24:30.200 between

00:24:31.100 Zelensky's

00:24:32.980 regime

00:24:33.360 and Biden's

00:24:34.100 regime

00:24:34.460 of who

00:24:35.160 lied most

00:24:35.680 that's where

00:24:36.040 the Washington

00:24:36.440 Post story

00:24:36.960 that buried

00:24:37.420 lead so

00:24:37.820 important

00:24:38.240 because right

00:24:38.940 now the

00:24:39.200 position is

00:24:39.740 we told

00:24:40.980 them

00:24:41.460 we trained

00:24:42.020 them and

00:24:42.380 we told

00:24:42.780 them what

00:24:43.120 to expect

00:24:43.660 a lot

00:24:44.580 of Ukrainian

00:24:45.260 troops are

00:24:46.020 going to be

00:24:46.580 slaughtered

00:24:47.260 in the first

00:24:48.120 couple of

00:24:48.500 weeks but

00:24:48.860 you just

00:24:49.200 got to keep

00:24:49.600 your head

00:24:49.920 down

00:24:50.260 you'll

00:24:50.740 eventually

00:24:51.000 start to

00:24:51.480 punch through

00:24:52.020 and although

00:24:53.480 the slaughter

00:24:54.340 rate there'll

00:24:54.900 still be big

00:24:55.440 slaughter the

00:24:56.040 slaughter rate

00:24:56.480 will come

00:24:56.780 down but

00:24:57.080 you just

00:24:57.300 got to

00:24:57.540 get it

00:24:57.800 out that's

00:24:58.780 the position

00:24:59.200 they're

00:24:59.420 taking now

00:25:00.440 you're seeing

00:25:00.940 Harris and

00:25:01.440 other guys

00:25:01.960 whose political

00:25:02.540 careers are

00:25:03.080 very tied to

00:25:03.700 this coming

00:25:04.580 up and saying

00:25:05.120 hey upon

00:25:05.560 further review

00:25:06.320 as they get

00:25:07.120 more classified

00:25:07.760 briefings they're

00:25:08.920 coming out and

00:25:09.340 saying hey I

00:25:10.580 don't know if

00:25:11.260 how much I'm

00:25:12.000 for this right

00:25:12.540 now this is

00:25:13.020 gonna be a

00:25:13.340 massive fight

00:25:13.920 when we get

00:25:14.340 back Ben

00:25:15.440 we only got a

00:25:16.100 couple of

00:25:16.420 minutes I

00:25:17.540 know it's

00:25:17.900 late in

00:25:18.280 Rome give us

00:25:20.160 your summary I

00:25:20.700 may try to

00:25:21.140 track you down

00:25:21.580 have you on

00:25:21.980 the Saturday

00:25:22.400 show so much

00:25:23.000 to go through

00:25:23.620 geopolitically what's

00:25:24.940 happening in

00:25:25.360 Europe the right

00:25:26.200 remember right

00:25:27.080 wing parties are

00:25:28.000 ascendant throughout

00:25:28.700 the world why

00:25:29.500 people have had a

00:25:30.240 belly full of

00:25:30.780 what's going on

00:25:31.500 so we're seeing

00:25:32.260 here from

00:25:32.520 Argentina to

00:25:33.760 Germany to

00:25:34.220 alternative for

00:25:34.780 Deutschland

00:25:35.260 Ben Harnwell how

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00:25:39.080 get simply my

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00:25:43.680 you see at the

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00:25:45.580 tap into that

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00:32:00.160 to be honest I mean in a certain

00:32:18.440 part of my mind I can think well

00:32:20.380 like in in the end I don't matter

00:32:23.940 that much my four kids don't matter

00:32:26.280 that much my granddaughter doesn't

00:32:27.860 matter that much like we are

00:32:29.260 patterns of organization in a very

00:32:32.180 long lineage of patterns of

00:32:33.980 organization but they matter very

00:32:35.480 much to you yeah and other you know

00:32:37.580 dinosaurs came and went and

00:32:39.540 neanderthals came and went humans

00:32:41.300 may come and go the AIs that we

00:32:44.140 create may come and go and that's

00:32:46.480 the nature of the universe

00:32:47.780 we use will they will they be

00:32:50.320 capable of good and evil or will

00:32:52.460 those categories be retired once we

00:32:55.060 get to doing these complicated

00:32:56.960 operations if I have to make a guess

00:32:59.300 those categories will probably be

00:33:01.160 replaced by something subtler my best

00:33:04.280 guess of what how the future will turn

00:33:06.900 out is not that all humans will be

00:33:09.320 annihilated and and will not exist any

00:33:11.940 further and I think that there there can

00:33:14.800 be superhuman super minds that are far

00:33:17.340 beyond anything we can conceive and

00:33:19.100 there can also be AIs of roughly human

00:33:22.680 level intelligence that exist in the

00:33:24.580 human world I mean what one

00:33:26.080 opportunity you can plug your brain

00:33:28.400 into the superhuman mind matrix and in

00:33:31.180 effect become part of some transhuman

00:33:34.000 God mind thus losing yourself and

00:33:36.140 individuality and humanity but let me

00:33:39.680 finish because we keep getting caught up

00:33:41.100 on this point but I think there will also

00:33:43.740 be an opportunity to continue living a

00:33:47.000 human life in much the same form as now

00:33:50.020 except with a whole AI driven

00:33:52.220 infrastructure that will 3d print any

00:33:54.540 physical object that you want that will

00:33:56.180 cure any any disease that that you may

00:33:58.820 get and that will regulate things that

00:34:01.300 people don't blow each other up

00:34:02.800 one of the things we're trying to do in

00:34:06.360 the war is make sure that you this

00:34:08.660 cadre this vanguard of revolutionary change

00:34:13.100 in the United States is is fully informed

00:34:15.280 of the most important topics of the day

00:34:16.940 and in a sophisticated manner so that you

00:34:19.660 can think it through come to your own

00:34:20.980 conclusions and in in in the whole show

00:34:23.940 is about empowerment and self-empowerment

00:34:25.680 and we you know you just saw in Ukraine

00:34:28.140 that's a more sophisticated conversation

00:34:29.820 you're gonna get anywhere in DC and we try to

00:34:32.860 do that whether it's capital markets the

00:34:34.380 economy the Chinese Communist Party you know

00:34:36.760 with the pandemic the the mass mandates you

00:34:39.760 name it right CRT every every different

00:34:41.820 aspect including politics and and and the

00:34:44.900 nitty-gritty of making sure that we win

00:34:47.140 the 2024 election and take our country back

00:34:49.880 and everything that has to happen taking

00:34:51.280 down the deep state with all of that right

00:34:54.980 and we we try to really curate the show and

00:34:57.460 and really get to the to the point with the

00:34:59.280 best people out there that can help you get

00:35:00.780 to the point there is no topic that's more

00:35:03.580 important than this issue of transhumanism

00:35:05.600 and you're seeing a little bit play out

00:35:06.840 now with artificial intelligence and one

00:35:08.460 of the reasons and that's why Joe Allen

00:35:11.080 does such an amazing job of these cold

00:35:12.480 opens because you actually see things that

00:35:15.240 are going on today in the way they think

00:35:17.500 about it and discuss it and these are the

00:35:19.020 people right now particularly the AI that

00:35:21.800 are being the zones being flooded where you

00:35:23.860 see these bankruptcies and all this

00:35:25.140 bankruptcy court on the Chinese real estate

00:35:27.240 and you're seeing the commercial real

00:35:28.260 estate in the United States and the banks

00:35:29.540 having problems and all the funds are

00:35:31.360 upside down venture capital is flooding

00:35:34.240 into flooding into the Silicon Valley

00:35:37.720 right now they're actually feeling a burst

00:35:39.580 of energy like the beginning of the

00:35:40.920 internet days and you're also seeing a

00:35:43.820 taxpayer money that what's going on in

00:35:45.440 our weapons lab so what's going on the

00:35:47.040 research universities we put hundreds of

00:35:49.340 billions of dollars into and you hear and

00:35:52.240 but that's what's so powerful it's so

00:35:53.980 powerful about the book Dark Aeon right

00:35:56.640 which I love this book I just I love the

00:35:59.480 feel of it I love the way that that our

00:36:01.340 publishing partner Sky Horse has helped

00:36:02.880 us put it together this is as high quality

00:36:04.580 as Scribner's or anything of the great

00:36:06.800 of the great St. Martin's Press the great

00:36:10.000 publishing houses in the past I mean this

00:36:12.300 is a quality book and it's so powerful and

00:36:15.220 lays it out so well but right there you saw

00:36:17.300 in the in the in the in the cold open

00:36:19.100 they're having these discussions and it's

00:36:22.000 not no myself and my children are made in

00:36:24.380 the image and likeness of God which is the

00:36:26.240 foundational element of the Judeo-Christian

00:36:28.340 West no we are patterns of organization

00:36:31.180 we are patterns there are people out

00:36:34.240 there today that are putting hundreds of

00:36:38.260 billions of dollars of bets up to

00:36:40.400 trillions of dollars and driving this kind

00:36:43.680 of convergence to the singularity that

00:36:46.940 that's how they think they don't think

00:36:49.100 like you you're sitting there thinking

00:36:50.140 well no I'm actually made in the image

00:36:51.840 and likeness of God right and that's the

00:36:54.520 foundation of the Judeo-Christian West and

00:36:57.240 I believe that to the core of my being

00:36:58.640 no their thoughts no you're just a pattern

00:37:00.820 of organization you're kind of like you

00:37:02.880 know the dinosaurs they were a pattern

00:37:04.240 of organization or the cockroaches they're

00:37:06.020 a pattern organization you're just a a

00:37:08.320 quote pattern of organization Joe Allen

00:37:11.700 help help help make it make sense brother

00:37:16.480 Steve I believe that a vast portion of

00:37:21.380 our elites have lost their minds in essence

00:37:24.600 they have detached themselves from the sort

00:37:27.380 of human reality that all of us live in and

00:37:30.160 have vacated into a dream world in which

00:37:33.280 artificial intelligence is God robots are

00:37:35.980 our companions humans are made holy through

00:37:39.120 brain computer interfaces and our bodies can

00:37:41.940 be kept alive in perpetuity through these

00:37:44.260 machines and especially through genetic

00:37:46.600 engineering it's not all of them and I don't

00:37:49.820 think we've ever made that claim and it's

00:37:51.340 not a conspiracy theory it's worse than a

00:37:54.160 conspiracy theory it is a cultural movement

00:37:57.040 it is a civilizational orientation and you see it

00:38:01.040 in the propaganda coming out in everything from

00:38:04.820 the news to entertainment you see it in this

00:38:08.520 this fevered race to create better and better

00:38:11.900 more sophisticated AI and to integrate it into

00:38:14.820 every part of people's lives especially the

00:38:17.240 lives of children through education and so

00:38:20.340 you know the real thrust of the book dark

00:38:24.080 eon dark aeon the real thrust of the book is

00:38:28.660 that that idea that the civilizational orientation

00:38:32.000 has been shifted away from God away from the

00:38:36.460 Christian tradition in the West and across the

00:38:39.900 planet if you're talking about a Buddhist nation a

00:38:41.700 Hindu nation a Muslim nation among the elite and

00:38:45.680 it's probably best expressed through Klaus Schwab's wild

00:38:50.580 proclamations of a fourth industrial revolution and

00:38:53.580 many others the civilizational orientation is away from

00:38:56.920 God what is transcendent what is holy and towards the

00:39:00.540 machine it's it's worse than humanism you know humanism

00:39:05.120 really stripped the sacred from the public sphere secularized

00:39:09.520 the the culture and politics and put all of the attention on the

00:39:14.340 human we will we will focus on human excellence will make humans excellent

00:39:18.240 our icons will be actual human beings real people instead of saints instead of

00:39:23.760 gods transhumanism takes even that focus away and focuses it focuses that on

00:39:30.280 the machine made in the image of man and then with dreams of the machine

00:39:34.580 becoming something far beyond the man far beyond the human and the human either

00:39:40.340 being some sort of subject to the machine or merging with the machine or as we heard

00:39:46.540 with Gertzel there simply being replaced we are just the sort of conduit through which

00:39:51.780 all of these machines came and they will be our mind children and we will just simply

00:39:56.520 fade away we will dissolve and people it's very difficult sometimes to

00:40:01.240 communicate this to people who live normal lives and are worried about their jobs about

00:40:06.000 the economy about their children about the potential for war and why should i worry about

00:40:11.760 these technologies why should i worry about robots are robots going to come and take my

00:40:16.680 home away are they going to kidnap my children no it's it's actually worse than that it becomes

00:40:21.460 you can see it in america if you if you visit silicon valley uh you can see it there uh you know

00:40:27.120 the vast wealth disparity and the the astounding sort of tech techno fetishism that is endemic to the

00:40:35.760 culture there and it's spread across we've covered this uh continually spread across

00:40:40.340 mit uh the academia in london and oxford in davos the gathering of the the billionaire class

00:40:49.900 and the political class you see it in beijing you see it in shenzhen you see it in israel in

00:40:55.600 tel aviv you see it in india the orientation of the civilization is now towards this technological

00:41:02.600 future in which the human being is only relevant to the extent that they are attached to the technology

00:41:09.380 that they are augmented by the technology that they are enhanced by the technology and it was

00:41:15.160 really when i first started looking into this 25 years ago it sounded as crazy as i do now uh but as

00:41:21.620 the technologies are catching up and as that techno fetishism as the culture is being suffused with it

00:41:27.160 it's very clear that very powerful very influential people very powerful corporate corporations and

00:41:33.680 very powerful governments have shifted their orientation to the technological in this fashion

00:41:39.000 one of the the canaries in the coal mine i think is the elevation of transgender people and especially

00:41:44.560 transgender children as some sort of uh sacred icon you cannot you cannot criticize it you cannot in

00:41:51.040 any way insult it you certainly can't you really can't even approach it it is like the the

00:41:55.060 transgender person is somehow holy and the transgender person is in many ways that sort of gateway to

00:42:01.420 transhumanism it's a human being who has been sculpted like like clay by technology and when you see

00:42:09.100 children become either transgender or or kind of fall into that trans obsessed culture i think it

00:42:16.460 really is this canary is a canary in the coal mine of the broader technological shift and what you see now

00:42:23.360 with kids you know cross-dressing and in some cases taking hormones and in some cases getting actual

00:42:29.380 surgery under age i it is a sort of precursor for all of these other technological forms that they're

00:42:36.780 slowly creeping in and if people 10 years ago wouldn't have believed that you could you'd be arrested

00:42:43.680 uh for criticizing a transgender person in a place like say london uh but that's the reality today and

00:42:50.460 that you could be fired for even saying i don't want my child to be a transgender person but that is

00:42:55.720 definitely the reality today and unless you think it's going to just stay the same here and unless you think

00:42:59.760 it's going to get better all on its own you can assume that all of the other elements that we've been

00:43:04.340 talking about techno fetishism transhumanism even a post-human sort of orientation all of that's coming on

00:43:10.860 as well and so my my hope and you know the way i end the book is to at least try to give people a

00:43:17.520 sense that this is not an invincible force these are not invincible people these technologies are

00:43:23.460 powerful but they are not invincible the the the key to moving into the next sort of phase of human

00:43:30.520 history this new digital era will be to erect cultural barriers to identify what is sacred in your

00:43:37.140 community and your family to identify what is precious what is ancient and to identify what the

00:43:43.680 values are that you want your children to carry forward into their generation and their the next

00:43:48.600 generation and so on and so forth and you'll have to struggle to maintain that in a world of chaos in

00:43:53.720 a world of deep fakes and just you know rampant digital uh digitization of the the social psychology

00:44:00.220 so yep in essence steve i i think um a lot of people accuse me of being uh doomy and depressing

00:44:07.020 and i i'm guilty as charged but i i do not think that we are somehow defeated and i i don't think that

00:44:13.740 most human beings are going anywhere i think that you know the the human being will be the center of

00:44:20.860 value on this planet uh as as long as one can imagine it's just that like any other dark time in

00:44:27.180 history we face other human beings and their creations uh and and those human beings do not

00:44:34.000 have our best uh our best interests at heart and as ever in history we simply have to identify these

00:44:41.040 problems we have to struggle in the face of it and we have to simply survive and win

00:44:45.880 the book is uh dark aeon of course it's pronounced eon according to the cambridge official but it's dark

00:44:54.260 aeon um it's a must read it is a tour de force i couldn't recommend anything higher and to get

00:45:01.460 this and get into it it's a you know it's five six hundred pages but it takes that much for joe to

00:45:07.800 get down to to the thesis here's one thing for people to think about i want to tell a short story

00:45:12.360 about uh back in 16 before i took over the um before i took over the trump campaign i think this was in

00:45:20.160 like um june or july so i left in august i'm in the the offices we had set up at breitbart um

00:45:29.700 in la and two individuals one i knew very not very well but i knew pretty well um was a operative or

00:45:38.020 an analytical guy in politics and he had a sidekick with him they came in for a meeting that we had

00:45:42.660 scheduled to go through in june to make sure we fully understand stood uh the interconnectivity

00:45:48.880 with uh what was happening in brexit uh that vote was going to take place in late june and and how

00:45:55.160 that was how a lot of this politics is interconnected and interlinked and the analysts can show you that

00:46:00.260 and he showed up and he had a joe you might remember this i think it was google

00:46:06.820 they had those glasses where they were actually attached to a computer in the glasses and these

00:46:12.580 glasses kind of wrap around and he and the guy showed up and at first i thought it was a goof

00:46:17.320 and he sits down and they start the meeting i go whoa whoa whoa whoa i said this is kind of fun

00:46:22.480 i said he says oh no no we're in a beta site test uh we're wearing these for the for the month

00:46:27.720 and i go you're wearing what and he goes well we're wearing these we're kind of attached to the

00:46:32.660 computer and it's the google thing he's got that and i said you can actually have a computer

00:46:36.280 says yeah everything we can fact check we do all kind of stuff i said yo bro i said they're either

00:46:41.920 coming off it's the end of the meeting i said i'm not sitting here with some cyborg right i'm not

00:46:46.960 going to do that and that's what you're as a cyborg and he thought i was kidding i said hey it's real

00:46:51.020 simple the either the glasses come off or we're finished and a couple of the guys at the conference

00:46:54.760 go this is banned and being banned i said no i'm not going to sit here and have a meeting with the

00:46:59.180 cyborg and you're a cyborg and he kind of admitted he says yeah that's i said fine remember that experiment

00:47:04.700 kind of failed i think but it was so eerie i knew this guy it was so eerie and he was like oh yeah

00:47:10.680 i'm doing this beta site test for google and we're going to do it in uh you know for the next month i

00:47:14.960 said hey you could do it anywhere you want but you're not going to do it in here and you're not

00:47:17.500 going to do it with me out either take them off or leave he says well i can't take them off i'm like

00:47:22.520 i said fine then out he says well i can't i said i don't care out never met with him again

00:47:28.020 anybody that in your life in this audience you're going to have someone in your life because

00:47:33.660 we're talking about enhancement either chipped get some someone in your life that's dear to you

00:47:38.600 within the next 12 months is going to come into your life and they're going to actually say they're

00:47:44.260 going to have an enhancement they want to either have an operation they're already chipped you're

00:47:48.540 going to sit there with someone in your life that you know and you've known for a long time and you love

00:47:53.520 are you close to and they're actually going to be part of the enhancement part of homo sapien 2.0

00:48:01.500 mark my words it will happen to you within the next 12 months they're not going to come back as

00:48:06.100 a full cyborg but from all the other all the options all the entry level gateway types the things

00:48:12.180 they can do to get in there it's going to happen and that's why you need to read the book this is

00:48:15.860 not science fiction something's going to happen in the future this is now and in the labs and in

00:48:19.460 silicon valley with trains of dollars pouring in there the next war the next war we fight the war of

00:48:25.540 the ccp a lot of it's going to be around artificial intelligence and things like this so uh we got

00:48:31.200 to bounce joe um maybe i'm attracting i want to make sure we go through this so people understand

00:48:36.800 at the end of the day this is a spiritual war but when people are all over tucker for you know

00:48:40.860 talk about replacement theory hey folks this ain't the replacement theory of of uh of people of color

00:48:47.480 or people of a different ethnicity or people of a different religion or that this is about the

00:48:53.340 replacement theory of something called homo sapiens of humans this is all about the and

00:48:59.700 remember the vanguard of the wealthy and the billionaires their simple mission is not to help

00:49:03.820 mankind this simple mission is quite focused they want to live forever they got a great deal running

00:49:09.040 here they're not quite sure they're not real believers in any afterlife and they're certainly

00:49:13.960 not believers and leading a moral life so they're not too they're not they don't want to get to judgment

00:49:19.240 day too quickly so they're all about immortality everything they threw but the amount of money

00:49:24.180 coming in here someone in your life did you know you're close to or you're acquainted with within the

00:49:29.760 next 12 months will walk in and say hey i got chipped i did this i got this in my hand boom i don't need

00:49:35.640 a credit card anymore you will go oh my god they are no longer just a human they're an enhanced human

00:49:45.160 and that's going to end in tears joe allen how they get the book how they get to you

00:49:51.260 well steve you can find it at amazon you can find it wherever books are sold you can find it uh

00:49:57.940 links at the top of my social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z at warroom.org under the transhumanism

00:50:04.800 tab and you can find a link at the top of my site joebot.xyz and as steve but by the way uh you know

00:50:12.680 people are probably seeing these palm readers rolling out at whole foods uh right now they're

00:50:18.900 just above three million customers uh the the the trend has already come in and you don't even need

00:50:26.280 a chip you're just simply you become your wallet think about it okay joe allen i'll track you down

00:50:34.080 maybe we get you on tomorrow this thing's too good the book's too good go to amazon right now order it

00:50:38.680 this is going to be a new york times bestseller book's amazing okay we're going to leave you

00:50:43.080 with one of the great songs from the american songbook jim reese one of the great voices precious

00:50:48.800 memories we will be back here on fire tomorrow morning at 10 a.m my favorite show of the week

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Bannon's War Room - August 18, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 356： Over 500,000 Casualties In Ukraine

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